1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: Are you aware of USDA's Snap Contingency Fund? Yes or no? 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: Yes or no? 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Are you aware of it? Sir? I'm aware of that. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: Are you aware that USDA, despite bipartisan demands from Congress, 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: is refusing to use that fund to help keep food 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: assistance going to families after Saturday? 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: Yes or NOA. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: I my understand that is now in litigation, and it's. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: In litigation because the administration is refusing to use the funds. 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 5: Correct. 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be in litigation if the administration would just 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: use the five billion dollars that's available to use, correct, 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: on top of the other funds that my colleague just 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: referred to. 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 6: So that's that's the claim in litigation because it's in 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 6: It's not something. 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: So it's in litigation because these are decisions that the 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: Trump administration that the USDA is making in real time. 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: They're deciding to pit hungry people against sick people, and 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: I think that's im moral. There's nothing legally stopping the 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: administration from making emergency food assistance funds that they're just 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: sitting on available for Georgia kids and families in November. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: But even as we debate what to do about these 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: ACA subsidies, it is it is indisputable that the USDA 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: under the Trump administration is choosing to pull hungry children 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: into this fight. They're not just in this fight, They're 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: being pulled into this fight used as ponds for short 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: term political gain. I thinks deeply immoral, and I think 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: we can certainly do better than that. 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all. This is Angela Raie with Native lampod 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: just hearing from Senator Raphael Warnock and hearing this week 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: about what is happening with Donald Trump's impoundments as it 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: relates specifically with the SNAP program. But today not one, 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: but two federal courts have ruled that Donald J. Trump's 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: administration must resume SNAP benefits. Terror illegal. These are just 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: two words used today to describe the irreparable harm caused 40 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: by the Trump Administration's failure to fund the Supplemental Nutrition 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Assistance Program. Of course, that is what most of us 42 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: call food stamps. In Rhode Island, the court says, the 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: court is orally at this time ordering that USDA that is, 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: the Department of Agriculture must distribute the contingency money timely 45 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: for as soon as possible for the November first payments 46 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: to be made. That's from United States District Judge John J. McConnell, Jr. 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: And after an hour were long emergency hearing just today, 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Judge McConnell ruled that the suspension of SNAP funding is 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: not only arbitrary, it is likely to cause irreparable harm. 50 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: He said that the terror felt by Americans who are 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: scrambling to meet their basic needs to ensure that their 52 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: needs are being met, are going to be left in 53 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: harm's way. Judge McConnell ordered the Trump administration to continue 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: paying for the program using emergency funds we call it 55 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: a contingency fund, and that they have to come back 56 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: to court on Monday and say how SNAP will be funded. 57 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: In Boston, Massachusetts, the federal Judge Indira Tolwane said that 58 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: she was going to reserve judgment on whether to issue 59 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: a tro which is a temporary restraining order, and asked 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: for the Trump administration to advise the court on whether 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: they would authorize reduced SNAP benefits for November. Right now, 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: there is a Contingency Fund in the United States Department 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: of Agriculture, that is to the tune of six billion dollars. 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: That does not cover the full amount at risk monthly. Monthly, 65 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the SNAP program costs eight point two billion dollars and 66 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: feeds more than four hundred, I'm sorry, more than forty 67 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: two million Americans. So, of course, these two rulings are 68 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: in response to filings on Tuesday by twenty five plaintiffs 69 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: that is, twenty two attorneys general across the country, as 70 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: well as governors in Kansas, in Kentucky and Pennsylvania, and 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: of course the District of Columbia. They all came together 72 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: to sue the United States Department of Agriculture, and they 73 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: have been successful so far. What we need to understand, 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that we take a 75 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: moment just to commend the people across the country who 76 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: have come together to fund and provide donations to food banks. 77 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: From churches like New Birds shout out to my good 78 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: brother an extended pastor, Jamal Bryant, into folks like Leonard 79 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: Charlotte Mae McKelvey, who's one of the founders of Reason Choice, 80 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: who's given multiple donations across various states, including South Carolina 81 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and New York to ensure that Americans don't go hungry. 82 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: When we look at that Masows hierarchy of needs, one 83 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: of our most basic needs, one of our most basic 84 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: needs is to be able to eat. And that is 85 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: something that this administration is denying the American people. And 86 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: here's what I want you to know. Let's say that 87 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration when they go back to court on Monday, 88 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have a plan. They don't know how they're going 89 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: to fund this, how they're going to make sure that 90 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: the American people who provide the funding for this thing 91 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: through their taxpayer dollars. If they come back and they 92 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: don't have a plan, and they say, you know what, 93 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: Judge actually, which they've done before, we're going to defy 94 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: this court order. If they do that and they deny 95 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: food to forty two million people, they deny the funding 96 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: to forty two million Americans, this is tantamount to theft. 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: This is theft from the American people. This is theft 98 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: from taxpayers, and your taxpayer dollars they are stealing from you. 99 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: And that amounts to something we call an impownment. So 100 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: let's just talk briefly about impowerments because I think we 101 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: need to understand this, And for those who are watching 102 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: on Instagram Live, I urge you to tune into our 103 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: youtubecause I'm gonna cut this live off right now. What 104 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I want to say is that an impowerment is it 105 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: refers to the delay or withholding by the President of 106 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: funds previously approved by Congress for certain fiscal or policy aims. Now, 107 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I want to be clear about this, just for a moment. 108 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: An empowerment is unlawful. An empowerment is unconstitutional. The Constitution 109 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: of the United States of American Article one, section nine 110 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: claws seven says, impertinent part, no money shall be drawn 111 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: from the Treasury, but in consequence of appropriations. Appropriations can 112 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: only be made by Congress, y'all, made by law, and 113 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: a regular statement and account of the receipts and expenditures 114 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of all public money shall be published from time to time. 115 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: The power of the purse belongs to Congress, not to 116 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now, y'all know, he's been still in a 117 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: long time. That's what the court case is say, been 118 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: still in a long time. The reason why he's mad 119 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: at tis James. Right now, the Attorney General of New York. 120 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: The reason why he has found a way to indict 121 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: her off of nonsense is because she had the nerve, 122 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: the audacity, the unmitigated gaal to sue this man for 123 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: fraud in New York still ows millions of dollars in fines. 124 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: And we thought he was gonna do this country different 125 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: wake up call. He is not. And so also what 126 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: you should know is in the Supreme Court, even precedent, case, 127 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: precedent is on the side of the American people because 128 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in a case Train versus City of New York, the 129 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Wart unanimously held, not six to three, not five 130 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: to four, not seven to two, unanimously held the President 131 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: does not have unilateral authority to impound funds. Again, Congress 132 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: has the power of the person. So what we've been 133 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: saying our week, y'all, is that it's time to stop 134 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: the real still, stop the real still. There was no 135 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: stolen election. The stealing is happening to taxpayers. The stealing 136 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: is happening to the American people, some of whom have 137 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: already gone hungry because funds had already run out. And 138 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I want to shout out again, not just the people 139 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: who have contributed to food banks contributed to funds, made 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: extra food for their neighbors, but also for the good 141 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: actors in states who have said, you know what, we're 142 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: going to bridge this gap, whatever gap that Donald Trump 143 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: is creating by not coming to the table to negotiate 144 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: with people of good will. We are going to make 145 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: sure that folks who look like me and you, folks 146 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: in our states, our citizens can eat. So I want 147 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: to just shout them out. There's a whole CRS report. 148 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: CRS is the Congressional Research Service that talks about the 149 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Impoundment Control Act of nineteen seventy four. That is, the 150 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: President relied upon in Train versus City of New York, 151 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that Supreme Court case that I just reference. What I 152 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: want you to know is that stopping the real still 153 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: means that the Supreme Court has to follow President. Stopping 154 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:37,359 Speaker 1: the real still means that House Republicans, that Senate Republicans 155 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: have to come to the table in earnest and talk 156 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: about what this really is about. They want to deny 157 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the American people of health care subsidies that were covered 158 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: in the Affordable Care Act, or if some of y'all 159 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: like to call Obamacare. This is about ensuring that healthcare 160 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: remains affordable to people. I want to take from those subsidies, right. 161 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: They want to take from those subsidies and every other 162 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: little place they can pull from to fund these tax 163 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: breaks for people who are making a whole lot more 164 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: money than you and me. I don't want to pay 165 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: for that. I don't know about y'all, but I don't 166 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: want to pay for that. If I get to say, 167 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and where my taxpayer dollars are going, I don't want 168 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: to pay for that. I'd rather pay for health care 169 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: being affordable to y'all. Right. I want to make sure 170 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: that we are giving people breaks who actually need relief, 171 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: not just Donald Trump's golf buddies. That's not what I 172 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: want to do. That's not what I'm here for. So 173 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: I think that we need to be very clear about that. 174 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: What is unfortunate is that the Republican Party writ large 175 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: are using snap benefits and the lack thereof, to starve 176 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: our children, to starve our seniors, to starve our people, 177 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: to starve our babies, to say we're gonna leverage this 178 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: them as a political football to delay and deny health 179 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: care subsidies. Both are wrong, Both are foul, and that 180 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: is what Senator Warnock was saying in his conversation in 181 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: his is back and forth in that Senate hearing. And 182 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: so now I want to switch gears, because we need 183 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: to talk about how we protect our power, how we 184 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: find our power, how we leverage our power in an 185 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: environment that feels so politically toxic. We are grasping at 186 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: straws every day trying to figure out how we keep 187 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: the lights on, how we feed our families, how we 188 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: educate our children, and how we preserve a democracy that 189 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: was not only just fragile, y'all, but in so many 190 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: ways broken. And so there are people of goodwill, as 191 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: my good brother Vince would say, who are fighting the 192 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: power every single day in the state of California. As 193 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: you all know, we have an election coming up. I 194 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: voted yesterday with my mom and dad. Where's my sticker. Oh, 195 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: it's on the back of my lapt Let me show, y'all. 196 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I voted yesterday. That's my sticker right there, if you'all 197 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: can see it. And shout out to everybody running in 198 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: King County and in Seattle running for office, and also 199 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: the ballot initiatives that we supported. In speaking of ballot initiatives, 200 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: We have folks that are fighting in power in California 201 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: right now, trying to meet folks where they are. There 202 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: was a racist jerry manderin process that took place in Texas, 203 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: and there were folks in the California legislature that said 204 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: not on our watch, bang the table, like Ian lavanzet y'all, 205 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: and one of them is joining us today to talk 206 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: about Proposition fifty. It's a very important ballot measure that 207 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: is on the ballot in California. This ballot measure was 208 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: introduced to many of you by Governor Newsom, but Governor 209 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Newsom would not have been able to ensure that this 210 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: ballot INITIAI made it onto the ballots of the folks 211 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: throughout the state without the acting of the legislature. Proposition 212 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: fifty authorizes temporary changes is to congressional district maps in 213 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: response to what Texas has done. In joining us today 214 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to talk about this very very critical ballot initiative. Right 215 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: on the other side of this clip, I want you 216 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: all to see this ad is Assembly Member Tina mckinner. 217 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: The first you're going to watch this. 218 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Say, California, with Prop fifty, you have the power. You 219 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: have the power to stand up to Donald Trump. 220 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 7: You have the. 221 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: Power to protect reproductive freedom. 222 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: You have the power to stop election rigging. 223 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: You have the power to give America a fair midterm. 224 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 2: You have the power to restore checks and balances. 225 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: You have the power to stand up for everyone being 226 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 6: a rased by this president, for all of us in 227 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: all fifty states. 228 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Yes on fifty. 229 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: So shout out to the black women who made it 230 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: into the ad Assembly member. I was looking for you too, 231 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: and I also was looking for my big sister Kamala Harris. 232 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: But we gonna make sure we run a different ad, 233 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: all right. 234 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 7: We have one. 235 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 8: By the way, how you doing, Angela? 236 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: How you know good? Well, if you can't send it 237 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: to us before we in the program, sorry, big, big, big, 238 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: big fan. 239 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 9: I just want to shout out to you before we 240 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 9: even get started, to lift you up for giving us 241 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 9: real news and not all that fake stuff that's out there. 242 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 9: So I commend you for your social activism. Thank you 243 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 9: for what you do. 244 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, my sister. I'm also mutually supportive. Thank you 245 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: for fighting the good fight. We always talk about the 246 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus as being the conscience of the Congress. Well, 247 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: there are some bold tremendous, beautiful black legislators in the 248 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: California State Assembly who are fighting the good fight every day, 249 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: both helping to ensure that we feel and see our 250 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: power at the ballot box with Prop fifty, but also 251 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: even the packages that some of them, some of the 252 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: bills were passed, but some of them weren't. Most recently. 253 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it a lot more. I'll listen all 254 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: we talk about on the other side of this election. 255 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: But I know you got thoughts. You were one of 256 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: those authors of the bill, and I really really respected 257 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: the bill that you introduced. So if there's anything I 258 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: can do on the other side of this to make 259 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: sure that that gets the uplifted needs for next session, 260 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: you can count me and my sister thank you. 261 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 9: Thank you, because it's extremely important and we're starting with reparations, 262 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 9: which I'd love to do that we have to make 263 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 9: sure that we separate reparations from Prop. 264 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 8: Fifty's just there. 265 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: I want to make it they're not even the same, 266 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: it's not even the same people who had to consider it. 267 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 8: No, we want to make sure that we don't mix 268 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 8: it up. 269 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 9: Even though you guys see Gavin Usim out there talking, 270 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 9: he's the governor. 271 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 8: That's what he's supposed to do. He's doing his job. 272 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 9: He's supposed to defend California. This is what the democratic 273 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 9: governor should be doing. They should be protecting democracy, talking 274 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 9: shit to Trump. 275 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I can say shit, you can say whatever you want Trump. 276 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 8: I love the way he. 277 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 9: Talked shit to Trump, talking shit to Trump, protecting democracy. 278 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 9: But this Prop fifty doesn't belong to him. It belongs 279 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 9: to us. Yes, the Prop fifty does not belong to 280 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom, y'all. 281 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 8: It belongs to us. 282 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 9: He's the spokeperson because he's the governor and he's doing 283 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 9: his job. His job is to protect democracy, protect California. 284 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 8: And I love the way he's talking shit to Donald Trump. 285 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: And I want to just fly for you really quick. 286 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Just a technical matter. I want to make sure we 287 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: are emotive people, so black people use our hands when 288 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: we talk. Your screen is moving a little bit. I 289 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: wanted to stay as stationare as possible so they can 290 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: hear you and see you, my sister. But this is great. 291 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Now here's the next thing that I want that I 292 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about. I think that people probably are 293 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: resenting a little bit how much we are having to 294 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: output in this moment. There are those of you, those 295 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: of us like me and you I know, we went 296 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: to the ballot box. We exercise our franchise. We did 297 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: the right thing. We told everybody. So we told everybody 298 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: what was coming in Project twenty twenty five. We told 299 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: people that there was no competition in qualification, style, substance, 300 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: or anything else between Connall Harris and Donald Trump. And 301 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: yet people still got it wrong. Those same people got 302 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: the nerve to be tired talking about they don't want 303 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: to go back. Well, some of y'all didn't go back, 304 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: and if you did go you voted wrong. Not that 305 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: many in our community, but we do have some folks 306 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: talk about why it is so important for people to 307 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: pay attention to this particular election. Again, for those of 308 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: you who don't understand what the assembly member was saying, 309 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is not on the ballot. This is not 310 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: a midterm election. This is an election related to Proposition 311 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: fifty to solve four harms that were caused in other states, 312 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: namely Texas. There are some other harms that are coming, 313 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: so this is to prevent some of those harms. So 314 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: we have representation and throughout the country even if it 315 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: comes from other parts of the world, like, for example, 316 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: Assembly member, you'll appreciate this. Washington State just got our 317 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: first black member of Congress a few sessions ago, right, 318 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: just a few sessions ago. So who I went to 319 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: were people outside of our state, particularly on issues that 320 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: matter to the black community. So this is one of 321 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: those things where it's saying we're gonna have to maybe 322 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: go outside of Texas, maybe go outside of Ohio, maybe 323 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: go outside of Missouri or Indiana. And I don't wish 324 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: for any of our members to lose their seats, but 325 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: if that's what they do, then we need some backup 326 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: in other parts of the country. That's not uncanny to 327 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: black people. I think that's really strange for white people 328 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: to have to process that they may have to get 329 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: support from other parts of the country. You all do 330 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: that too, because you're representing the needs of black constituents 331 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: throughout the state of California. So can you talk a 332 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: little bit about that role that you play that isn't 333 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: just unique to your district, but really is representing our 334 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: interests throughout the state. 335 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 9: Absolutely, we have one hundred and twenty members in the 336 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 9: state Assembly and Senate, twelve African American people represent black 337 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 9: people across the state. So it's twelve of us, so 338 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 9: we have ten percent. So of course we represent all 339 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 9: the black folks across the state. We make sure that 340 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 9: we do that well too. By the way, we're pretty 341 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 9: feisty group. Look what happened in this was you all know, 342 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 9: Donald Trump called Texas and say give me five give 343 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 9: me five seats. 344 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 8: I deserve it. 345 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 9: In California, we heard it and our governor jumped right 346 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 9: on it and he said, you bring the fight to California. 347 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 9: We bring it back to you. And so we went 348 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 9: in and we passed three bills. The first bill is 349 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 9: a constitutional bill to allow us the legislature to draw maps, 350 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 9: to redraw the maps because we have an independent a 351 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 9: redistrict and Commission that comes in every ten years and 352 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 9: draw the maps. So we take that and the legislature 353 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 9: are going to draw them. That was the first bill. 354 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 9: The second bill actually accepts the maps that we drew. 355 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 9: And the third bill paid for this special election. The 356 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 9: special election is gonna cost us about fifty million, I'm sorry, 357 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 9: five hundred million dollars. 358 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 8: I always forget that zero. 359 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: I would want to forget it to that's expensive. 360 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 8: It's expensive. 361 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 9: But we were more afraid not to spend the money 362 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 9: than to give up the money because Trump is so 363 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 9: damn dangerous. You just talked about he's making he's putting 364 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 9: hunger against health care. 365 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 8: Who does that? 366 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: Who does that? 367 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 8: A crazy man? And so we voted on it. 368 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 9: And unlike Texas, Texas just we drew the maps. Unlike Texas, 369 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 9: we believe in a democracy. So we're taking it back 370 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 9: to the voters and we're asking the voters permission to 371 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 9: draw the maps. But what this does is when Texas 372 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 9: put in those five Republican seats, California is going to 373 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 9: put in five Democratic seats. We're gonna we drew those lines. Well, 374 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 9: we drew in Democrats. There are only nine Republican seats 375 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 9: in California. I love living in republic In California, five 376 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 9: Republican congressional seats, and because they found a pace with us. 377 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 8: We're gonna only leave them with four. 378 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 9: And so this is about making sure that we have 379 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 9: an even playing field for the midterms. Like Angela said, 380 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 9: the midterms. Congress runs every two years. The midterms is 381 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 9: where all the financial stuff comes through. Got to come 382 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 9: through Congress, It's not through the president. Plus our American, 383 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 9: this US American experiment is failing. Donald Trump as the presidency, 384 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 9: the Supreme Court most of the time, and the US 385 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 9: House and the US Senate. We have to ensure that 386 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 9: we get these mid terms back, that we get Congress back, 387 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 9: so we could stop some of these nonsense. 388 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 7: And when you think. 389 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 8: About nonsense, I'm gonna stop because I could go on 390 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 8: and no. 391 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: No, I have two questions for you. The first is 392 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: where you kind of ended, and it's around you're gonna 393 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: only leave the Republican Party with four in California. My 394 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: question is given the fact that Texas is the beginning, 395 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: that's not the in And I'm not great at math. 396 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: I went to law school to avoid it at all costs, 397 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: but I can do basic arithmetic. Why leave them with any? 398 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: If you know that there are other states coming and 399 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: they control most of the legislatures throughout the country, why 400 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: leave them with any? What's the rationale for that? 401 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 8: Well, we went to the voters that we well, we 402 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 8: really did. 403 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 9: We just wanted to do five because we thought that 404 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 9: if we just took over, California is not as devious 405 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 9: as Texas. So we thought it we just took over 406 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 9: the whole state that might not be as fair because 407 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 9: we do have Republicans that live in the state. 408 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: You're not playing with fair, y'all. Y'all are playing with 409 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: fashions problems. 410 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 8: Sometimes we try to be too fair, and. 411 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: I agree, I wars like and so I don't mean 412 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: to cut you off, but I'm just like, I am, 413 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: I am blown away, and I'm I'm gonna own this too. 414 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: So I'm not so you know, I'm not shooting it 415 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: just our folks. I'm owning this too. You know how 416 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: you you grew up professionally in a thing, right, and 417 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I know this game. I know what 418 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: it is. I can advise anybody, eyes closed, blindfolded, hands 419 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: time by on my back, one leg. I'm ready. But 420 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: they changed the entire rules of the game. The rules 421 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: of engagement have shifted. And so what is blowing my 422 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: mind and I have to again, I have to reset 423 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: every day too, is how resistant we are to what 424 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: has occurred, Like the fact that this is a fascist regime. 425 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: We are living under an authoritarian government who readily defies 426 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: court orders, and we're like, oh, well, you know, let 427 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: me just be fair because these other you know, you 428 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: might have a Republican friend that you know, sit down, 429 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: go to the movies, eat some cheese it's with or whatever. 430 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: But like, they are still empowering and endorsing this fascism, 431 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: and so there has to be a consequence somewhere, especially 432 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: if the math isn't math so hypothetical. Let's say that 433 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you realize tomorrow or election day, right the day everybody's voting, yes, 434 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm prop fifty, that they are coming from more seats 435 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: than you thought. Is there a mechanism to change it 436 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: so that you eliminate all nine? Not just there's not 437 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: a mechanism, you stuck mechanism. 438 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 8: We drew the maps. 439 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 9: They're voting on the maps on Tuesday. So we drew 440 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 9: the maps, and we're voted on the maps. But we 441 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 9: know that we also have New York and Chicago and 442 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 9: a couple of a few other blue states that we've 443 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 9: talked to that are also ready to pull some of 444 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 9: these triggers if we need it. 445 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: You hope. And then so you have two others that 446 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: are relying on whether or not their governors are democratic 447 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. That's New Jersey and Virginia in particular. Let 448 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: me ask you this because you brought up this independent 449 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: redistricting thing, and when you talk to most black civil 450 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: rights orgs, this is the thing that they are blown 451 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: away by. Did we do right by establishing these independent 452 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: redistricting commissions in states? Was that the right thing to do? 453 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 8: I think it was. 454 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 9: It gave us here in California, we picked up We 455 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 9: picked up seats and places that we never served before. 456 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 9: We have a lot of first in different areas because 457 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 9: of the redistricting independent redistricting Commission, because it puts four Democrats, 458 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 9: four Republicans, five independents that way, and they choose them 459 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 9: with people who haven't really been involved in politics that much. 460 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 8: That way. 461 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 9: They're coming in and they're listening to all the testimony 462 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 9: with the open mind instead of a Biprotestant mind. 463 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 8: And I think they did really. 464 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 9: Well in California with the with the maths, and I 465 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 9: think they should do that across the country because if 466 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 9: they did, we wouldn't have this thing that Donald Trump 467 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 9: just did and said just give me seats, because that's 468 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 9: not the way to do it. 469 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: And that's that's how you being a hoping on a 470 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: wing inner prayer that that that all the rest of 471 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: the states would be in integrity, as it sounds like 472 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: you all have been in the process. The other thing 473 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: is a lot of these independent redistricting commissions end up 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: eliminating majority black district majority minority districts. I just send majority, 475 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll send majority people of colored districts. That's another thing 476 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: that we have to consider. But what I do know, 477 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: as simbly member, is you are working hard on this initiation. 478 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: You want to talk to you for the first time. 479 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: Last week your voice was gone, so I know you're 480 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: doing the work of the people. I'm not going to 481 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: keep you, but I do want to just offer you 482 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: an opportunity to just close out. If you were giving 483 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: your final, your closing request or demand of the people 484 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: to vote yes I Prop fifty, what would you say. 485 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 8: Well, I would tell our people that listen, we must 486 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 8: do this. Trump is trying to do. 487 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 9: A couple of things that just affects us, right, because 488 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 9: I know people talk about affecting a lot of us, 489 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 9: but I'm just going to talk about Black people. First thing, 490 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 9: he's trying to erase our history. We just got museums. 491 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 9: He's trying to go in and wipe our history out 492 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 9: like it never happened. Do slavery happen. Get over it. 493 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 9: Guess how I feel. The black jobs. You talk about 494 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 9: black jobs, those federal jobs that people got, all those 495 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 9: people got laid off. A lot of them were black women, 496 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 9: because black women in the seventies and eighties couldn't get 497 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 9: big jobs in corporate America. It was only a few 498 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 9: of us. So we went to the government. I worked 499 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 9: for the government as well. We went to the government. 500 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 9: We worked, and so those folks are laid out. When 501 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 9: you look at the student loans our people have. We 502 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 9: have a house, some savings, and a job. A lot 503 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 9: of us don't have enough money to pay for our 504 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 9: kids student loans. We took out student loans. Joe Biden 505 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 9: and Kavin Harris were forgiving those student loans. 506 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 8: Left the right. They wasn't pressing us to pay them 507 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 8: because they know how hard it is. 508 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 9: Not Trump right now, he came in, He's like, if 509 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 9: you don't pay these student loan, we're gonna take your 510 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 9: house and your car. It's just so many things that 511 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 9: pertain to us. My brother's keeper, he'll never invest with 512 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 9: in that. You know how they suspend choose black children. 513 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 9: He'll never invest in that. It's so many things. We're 514 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 9: counting on hunger versus health care. That's the thing that 515 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 9: affects black people. So vote yes on Prop fifty on 516 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 9: Tuesday on the fourth, please do it. Look, all of 517 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 9: our lives depend depends on it. And California is carrying 518 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 9: this mantle because we know, so goes California, so goes 519 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 9: the rest of the country. And I think once we 520 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 9: get past this part, we will win in twenty six. 521 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: I love it. Assembly Member Tina mckinner. She gotta come 522 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: back and talk to us about some of the bills 523 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: she has in mind and how the rest of the 524 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: country can get behind what California is doing laying a 525 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: blueprint no pun intended. And of course we're telling folks 526 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: to vote yes on Prop fifty. Thank you for all 527 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: your work. I look forward to talking to you against this. 528 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 9: Thank you, Angela, and I want to come back and 529 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 9: talk about reparations a little later. 530 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: You got it right after on November fifth. We're gonna 531 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: come back absolutely absolutely, Okay, thanks so much. 532 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: Okay, take care, bye bye. 533 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: Our next joining us is some when she is my 534 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: big sister, y'all. She has a heart for the people. 535 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: She lives every single day, lifting up black people, black women, 536 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: black children doing the work of the Lord through Black 537 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Women's Roundtable, the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation. She 538 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: recently celebrated thirty years with this tremendous organization. I hate 539 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: I missed it because if there's anything that I ever 540 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: want to do, it is to celebrate my dear sister 541 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: friend Melanie Campbell, who joins us. 542 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 8: Now. 543 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: No, how are you feeling, Sis, I'm. 544 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 6: Getting a little cold, but other than that, I'm great, 545 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 6: you know, you know, paying attention to what's happening with 546 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 6: snap and courts and making sure that we're out here 547 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 6: supporting our people. 548 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 7: Who's gonna feed our people. 549 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: No matter what, no matter what, doing. 550 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 10: It over there with Tony Lee and others, and some 551 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 10: of our state leaders are doing it on the ground, 552 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 10: and some of these mayors are stepping up, and we're 553 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 10: gonna still also fight for healthcare because it's not a 554 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 10: it's not a choice either or which is what they're 555 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 10: trying to play out to be. 556 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: But you know, it look good. Good to see you, 557 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 6: Good to be in in in community with you. I 558 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 6: know what they're physically, but you were there with me, girl, 559 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: you are. 560 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I was, and I hope you saw the love. Uh, 561 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: there's so many people that love that video and love you, 562 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: so I hope you feel poor into. 563 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 7: I'm treasuring it. 564 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: I had some family stuff I had to deal with 565 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: right after, but I've just been able to go back 566 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: and listen and just it's just. 567 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: It's it's great to feel the love and so and 568 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 7: and I don't take it for granted. 569 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, I know you don't, and I want to just 570 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: ask you mail you know, well, let me ask you this. 571 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time in your life that 572 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: you can remember where circumstances in this country have been 573 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: this dire? And if so, what year was that? 574 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 7: No, not in my lifetime. 575 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: That's the same thing, my dad says, and he older. 576 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 6: Than us, good compares our in my lifetime, my parents, 577 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: my grand of course for sure, right, but now not 578 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 6: the level of evil. In my opinion, it's very very much. 579 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 6: I feel the spiritual warfare as well as political and 580 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 6: that you have people who have sold their soul for power. 581 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: When you say spiritual warfare, it's money. Because my dad 582 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: would agree with you, and he's a lot older. He's 583 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: no shade daddy, but he's nineteen. He's born in nineteen 584 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: forty two, and he said, never in his black life 585 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: has he seen anything this bad and this blatant. And 586 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: so I guess my point is, I know that we 587 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: normally function as a village. We have pulled from each 588 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: other and pulled from our community at this time to 589 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: really find encouragement. What is giving you hope? What's giving 590 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you the desire to keep fighting? Because the one thing 591 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I can tell everybody at home, Mail is not giving up. 592 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: She's doubled down. She's like, Okay, I'm mad, but I'm 593 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: about to turn all this anger into progress for my people. 594 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: So I want to know what's driving you. 595 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 7: You know, because my faith one but to the village. 596 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 7: We are a village, you know. 597 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: And as much as I'm not experienced this and we 598 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 6: in this the rapid way has happened over the last 599 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: now ten months going on eleven months, I also know 600 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 6: history and that we know enough to know that we 601 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 6: have overcome so much as a people and we're and 602 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: that has not changed. It's in our d and a 603 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 6: to fight for our freedom. Right, that's not a cliche, 604 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 6: it's real. And so they can do whatever and when 605 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 6: you do the others, oh, it will come back right 606 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: And We're not going no doc onware. It's like you 607 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 6: all can think you live in some fantasy about what 608 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: you're going to put black people back to and even 609 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 6: to your own demise. But we have to know and 610 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 6: and and really pour into uh, this next generation who 611 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 6: really have been out here fighting, fighting to fight, and 612 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 6: know that we have to also find ways to protect 613 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 6: ourselves right to protect our peace if you will. 614 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 7: But but we're gonna win because evil never wins, right. 615 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 6: Uh, these folks that are here, I've never seen a 616 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 6: dictator win at the end of the day, right, And 617 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: it's what this man thinks he wants to be. 618 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 7: Uh in this country, and I could believe that. 619 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 6: You know, folks voted the way they voted last year 620 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 6: because they thought that, for whatever the reason, they wanted 621 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 6: to blame all of their problems on black people. But 622 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, they're feeling it too. 623 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 6: White folks specifically who I'm talking about, not all white people, 624 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 6: but quite a few of them did voted for a racist, sexist, 625 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 6: rapist thief over an exceptionally qualified black woman, and they 626 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 6: had done it against a white woman, you know, for 627 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 6: whatever reason, this country. But we're not going to where angel, 628 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 6: you know, and we're gonna have to fight and protect ourselves. 629 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 6: And I do worry, you know, because this is a 630 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 6: lawless administration and then having a Congress that's led by 631 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 6: by weak people. 632 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: You know. I started the show today Mail talking about, 633 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: excuse me how this judge ruled today in Uh, this 634 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: was in the Rhode Island case. That the administration is 635 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: moving with terror and lawlessness. 636 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 10: Uh. 637 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: It is both unlawful and it is terrorism on people. 638 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: And I really think it's important for us to double 639 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: down on that framing because one it's accurate, and two 640 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: we need to we need to not let our consciences 641 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: be seared with the hot iron. We need to be 642 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: clear about what is happening and why this is so 643 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: problematic and why nobody, nobody did anything wrong. These are 644 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: programs that our taxpayer dollars fund and that we invest 645 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: in because we want the best for people. So I think, 646 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: what's mind going to me? Because you talked about spiritual 647 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: warfare earlier, and I want you to get into that 648 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: before we before we leave. But it's spiritual warfare with 649 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: people who are regularly slinging the Good Book like they 650 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: are the poster children for Christianity, Yet it feels like 651 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: they're representing the values of something that is in start 652 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: contrast with the Bible we read. You know, so I 653 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: want to I want to hear from you on why 654 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: this feels like spiritual warfare and why when you you know, 655 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: when you check in spiritually with yourself while you're like, oh, 656 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: I know, it's spiritual warfare because X y Z. For 657 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: those at home who are feeling kind of torn about that, well. 658 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: You know what I say. 659 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 7: I'm not a preacher, but I just be married to one. 660 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I never come on first lady. 661 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 5: Lay but anyway, but you know, when you think about 662 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 5: and I was listening to Reverend Warnock and listening to 663 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 5: Jamal and my pastor and others and my sister who's 664 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 5: you know, retired, So you know. 665 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 6: So it's simple what you do to the least things, 666 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 6: you've done it under me. So you're not gonna feed people, 667 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 6: You're not gonna you gotta take away people's ability to 668 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 6: have health care. You have to take away people's right 669 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 6: to have a quality life for what at the end 670 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: of the day, Right, So, at the end of the day, 671 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 6: I believe that what you do the least of these 672 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 6: you've done, unto me, And so that's that's the foundation 673 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 6: of it. And you talking about not feed people seriously, right, 674 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 6: and then playing games out here and so you know, 675 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 6: in the social media world, you know, trying to make 676 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 6: this about black women and all these kinds of things 677 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 6: that they're doing. But at the end of the day, 678 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 6: if folks don't get get the ability to feed their too, 679 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 6: that you know, that has no color, that has to 680 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 6: do with your lot in life. And so that that 681 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 6: part of it to me is that probably the most corrupt, uh, 682 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 6: and the second being about dealing with health care, and 683 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 6: so it's really, uh, you have the ability to really 684 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 6: you have to have something very very deeply disturbing about 685 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 6: your soul to be able to do some of the 686 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 6: things that they're doing. On top of the way the 687 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 6: violence and the cruelty and say, well here people say, 688 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 6: cruelty is the point right as a and if you 689 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: want to be a dictator and one of the things 690 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 6: that and this is no shape on no kings. People 691 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 6: people see the monarchy, they don't get that. No, no, no, 692 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 6: we're talking about no dictator, right, that's what we're talking about. 693 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: Like this country is really, we might as well say 694 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 6: we're living in one because because the law is not 695 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 6: being followed. It's gonna be interesting to see, even with 696 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 6: the court deciding a couple of hours ago that they 697 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 6: have to provide snap benefits, will they do it? Yeah, 698 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 6: well they need the button to do it right, or 699 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 6: will the Supreme Court slap that back down and give 700 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: this man one more out of illegal power in my opinion, 701 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 6: And and so that's the other part of it too. 702 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 6: You have all these different levers. But but again I 703 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 6: hold on to the faith to know that. 704 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 7: The Bibles used to build. 705 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 6: To uh uh say slavery was okay, talk about it, 706 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 6: so that history is still there and being able to 707 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 6: know that when I think about what I'm seeing in 708 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 6: the faith community, that folks, especially in the Black church, 709 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 6: are stepping up. And that's that's part of learning from 710 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 6: the history. Like we have to we have to fill 711 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 6: in the gap. We have to do that to make 712 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 6: sure that our people at least have the have those 713 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 6: basic needs while we fight to fight against and create 714 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 6: what this new thing looks like because it won't be 715 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 6: the same. Yeah, it won't be the same, there's no way. 716 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 6: Because it was a lot of things that we now 717 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 6: know that require there to be surreal changes to what 718 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 6: quote unquote this democracy ought to be, to try to 719 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 6: make sure that the children and children and children that 720 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 6: are coming up behind us will have a better shot 721 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 6: at this quote unquote democracy living Absolutely. 722 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: Well, ma'am. I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful for the 723 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: work you continue to do, for the encouragement that you offer, 724 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: both in word indeed and all of the things that 725 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: you do. I just want you to know I'm definitely 726 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: praying for you and for the survival and hopefully the 727 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: thriving of this country and all the people who absolutely 728 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: deserve their right to attain and achieve the American dream. 729 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: But I want you to know that in an era 730 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: where they're trying to take our votes away, I am 731 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: certainly grateful for the clarion calls you've issued, the flags 732 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: that you dropped. I want you to know that, even 733 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: in the moments where you haven't felt heard or seen 734 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: that you are congrats on thirty years. I pray for 735 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: thirty more. But I also pray for ease in your work, 736 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: because I know that you've had to fight a lot 737 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: as a black woman to be able to hold the 738 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: same platforms that your male counterparts have had with ease. 739 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: I pray that people will not only see you but 740 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: give you your just due because that's what equity would do, 741 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: and that's the least of what is required in this moment. 742 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: But thank you sis for all you do and know 743 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: you've ever had assist the soldier in me. 744 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 6: Yes, well that was I'm going to say. It's like, 745 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: you know, I know where it has. I love what 746 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 6: you and your colleagues are doing and speak to them. 747 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 6: I guess a good leader knows how to and I 748 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 6: follow you, my sister, like we did before, because that's 749 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 6: what it takes. It's put and I do believe that, 750 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 6: you know, intergenerational leadership, but also being able to shift 751 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 6: when needed. And that's what we have to do because 752 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 6: you know, we all get tired and weary, right and 753 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 6: well doing, but you know it's gonna be all right, 754 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 6: and we're not going to let the devil still our 755 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 6: joy and we're not gonna let these crazy folks do that. 756 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 8: And we have to also to celebrate. 757 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 7: So I think it was able to allow. 758 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 6: Myself to celebrate, which was you know, hard, but it 759 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 6: was fun. And and then the thoughts that have been, 760 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 6: including you, sharing that I would take that with me, 761 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 6: keep going and shifting to do things. 762 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 7: Thirty more years will look a little different than the 763 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 7: last time. 764 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 8: It's gotta run out. 765 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we got your bag mail. Thank you so 766 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: much for joining us. This is Melanie cam but y'all 767 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: make sure you follow her at Coalition Builder on Instagram. 768 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: Definitely make sure you check out NCBCP, which is the 769 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: National on Black Civic Participation and Black Women's Roundtable where 770 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: every black woman I know, if she's on the right 771 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: side of history and in building a good legacy, has 772 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: a seat at Melanie Campbell's table. So thank you, sispiate, 773 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: love you y'all. You know, as mel just said, we 774 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: are not gonna let the devil steal our joy. But 775 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: the devil also will not steal our votes, our healthcare, 776 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: or our neighbors snap benefits, because that is our most 777 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: reasonable service. So as you all go out today, for 778 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: those of you who will celebrate Halloween to trick or treat, 779 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: do not fall for this trick bag that this man 780 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: at the top of this country is trying to give us. 781 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: Make sure that you are staying informed. I know there's 782 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: a lot of information coming at you every single day 783 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: at Native Lampod. We want to make sure that we're 784 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: giving you access in real time to the information as 785 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: it comes in. I'm trying to work really diligently to 786 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: get you all all of that information on Tuesday. As 787 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: you all know, this is our makeup day. Tuesday. We 788 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: have some technical issues and you didn't get to hear 789 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: from the likes of Adallie to Grahalva, who is the 790 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: daughter of Raoul Grahalva, the congressman who passed. May God 791 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: rest his soul. I admired him deeply. I'm looking forward 792 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: to having that conversation. We're gonna keep talking about Prop 793 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: fifty and y'all some breaking news on Tuesday. If you 794 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: are in Seattle, please make sure you join me at 795 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: Bener Royal Hall, where I will be moderating and unfiltered, 796 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: completely real, an amazingly authentic conversation on election night after 797 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: the polls have closed with Kamala Harris are Forever Madame 798 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: Vice President. I'll be talking to her about her book. 799 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: I'll be talking to her about the path forward. Make 800 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: sure you join us at ben Royal Hall in Seattle, Washington. 801 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: If y'all know you're a fly up if you can, 802 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: you know why not, but make sure you check us out. 803 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that conversation with my big 804 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: sister fellow October Baby, and definitely feeding her, giving her 805 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: some good old Seattle food. So I'm looking forward to 806 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: seeing y'all there on Tuesday at seven pm again at 807 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: Bennroy Hall. And actually I just lied to y'all because 808 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: you can drop your ballats off until eight pm, but 809 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: drop them off a little early and come see us. 810 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: And then lastly, make sure if you have not that 811 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: you like and subscribe to this podcast, that you comment 812 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: let us know what you think. It's been a little 813 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: contentious lately. I think some of that is by design. 814 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're starting to break through, you got haters. 815 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: And I think there are also times where people just 816 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: blatantly misunderstand. I think there are other times where people 817 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: just blatantly disagree. We disagree on the podcast every single 818 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday when we record it drops on Thursdays. Solo pods 819 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: drop on Tuesday. I heard Bakari and Andrew got a 820 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: it's not really a solo pod, it's a bipod. That's you. 821 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: We have a quad pod, a solo pod a bipod. 822 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: These guys sat down and had a conversation. They hogging 823 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: up a lot of airtime too, So if y'all watch 824 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: the episode we dropped early today, they talked a lot, 825 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: but it was a really incredible conversation. Their conversation in 826 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: Houston that we recorded on Wednesday night, y'all, I'm serious 827 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: is actually one of my favorite Native lamp podcast episodes ever, 828 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: so please make sure you check that out. I have 829 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: talked a lot longer than I intended. It is a 830 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: Friday night. Somebody just got paid and hopefully everybody will 831 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: get fed. Now that these judges have fallen on the 832 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: right side of the truth and the law, no impoundments 833 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: tell them to stop the real still until next time, 834 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: I will see y'all on Tuesday. Take care. 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