WEBVTT - Frank Kaminsky Talks Life and Basketball On and Off the Court

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Jana's

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<v Speaker 1>Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome in everybody. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. It's

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<v Speaker 1>officially March. We even got started on the madness a

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<v Speaker 1>little early this year as the top six ranked teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the country they all lost on a historic Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>in college basketball. That was crazy. We're gonna get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the end of the show with Peter Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>because something tells me that was a good day for

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<v Speaker 1>the folks at bet MGM. Actually seven out of the

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<v Speaker 1>top nine went down. That includes St. Mary's taking down

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<v Speaker 1>top Rankedkins Daga. And You're honest, you can't say their

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<v Speaker 1>school name, but I know you're like watching him play.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you see? I love watching good Zaga. They

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<v Speaker 1>got beat down. You know it was I mean, those

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<v Speaker 1>guys look good. They pounded it inside. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's probably a lot of NBA scouts watching hule Green.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his name, right, if I'm pronouncing it right, Hulgron Hullgreen.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't pronounce you don't even pronounce your own name, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeahs. You know he was getting pounded. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean his weight is a real liability. You take him

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<v Speaker 1>down low. I mean he's like a feather down there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I watched that game. It was exciting to watch

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<v Speaker 1>such a big upset storming the court. Though I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan Olivia. I'm not a big fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like there's a whole team that just lost

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're getting attacked by fans. It's just a dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>unpredictable situation. If I was a losing team, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like a little threatened. If fans running on

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<v Speaker 1>the I just feel like it's unprofessional, unprofessional. This whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing is unprofessional. This is just this is kids. These

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<v Speaker 1>are eighteen year olds. Yeah, I think they should. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean anybody tries to get on the court, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they should get stun guns and get them stung, like

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<v Speaker 1>just sting them with the stunt gun like they did

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<v Speaker 1>an old school, just one by one. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch college kids getting a stun gunned. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what is really scary as a sideline reporter when

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a football field and they storm the field

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<v Speaker 1>and you just are looking over your shoulder, you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>your postgame interview. You're like, oh, hell no, they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>right for me. Scary, That's what I mean. Isn't it illegal?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if I was a player, I wouldn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it? Are you allowed to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Technically illegal? But they do kind of line up cops there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think on a basketball court it's worse. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hard surface. Someone can get hurt. There's less,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, surface area. Anyways, you know who knows a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about excited fans storming the court all this excitement

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<v Speaker 1>is our guest today and Janice, I'm really excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those episodes I called in a

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<v Speaker 1>favor for. I'm a friend Frank Kaminski, former unanimous National

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<v Speaker 1>College Player of the Year, current member of the NBA's

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<v Speaker 1>best team, the top seed Phoenix Suns, is joining the

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<v Speaker 1>show today and I mentioned he's a friend mostly of

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<v Speaker 1>my husband's. I've gotten to know him over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>He played at Wisconsin with Sam and I've been meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Frank for three years if he got romantic

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<v Speaker 1>with any of my cute friends at our wedding, because

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you that weekend was like an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Love Island. It was like Noah's Ark if the

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<v Speaker 1>flood had been vodka. Everyone seemed to couple off, if

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<v Speaker 1>only for one special night. And you honest, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>married three years. I'm still hearing about stories from our

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<v Speaker 1>wedding weekend. So I've got to have Frank way in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I got a lot of questions. We got

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<v Speaker 1>something fun lined up that you don't know about. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait. Yeah, we got some surprises. Me and the producers, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke behind your back. And since Frank is such

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend of Sam. You know, when I used

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<v Speaker 1>to watch those Wisconsin games, I called them the Ivory Towers.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that we got him, we're gonna find out

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting inside info. It's gonna be fun for the

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<v Speaker 1>fans of the show to listen to. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promise Olivia knows nothing about it. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit nervous. But now Frank is such

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<v Speaker 1>a great guy. Glad he can do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>This week he played in two final four, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to pick his brain on upcoming March Madness in

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<v Speaker 1>a big ten tournament especially. Uh, he's just a beast

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<v Speaker 1>in college. And I've also got to say big heart

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<v Speaker 1>on that big seven foot dude. He has donated every

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<v Speaker 1>year to our children's cancer Family Foundation. He's just he

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<v Speaker 1>is all right in my book. But you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we do when something's not all right in our book. Honest, Olivia,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we unleach. It's time to leach. If you

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<v Speaker 1>say that every week? Yeah, can I go first, my friend? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>young lady. Alright, alright, everyone has seen the Kyrie Irving

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<v Speaker 1>is back kind of. He's had a limited season thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to the vaccine requirements in Brooklyn, New York City, he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to play in his own home games.

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<v Speaker 1>He had the best game of the season this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>He dropped thirty eight on the reigning champion Milwaukee Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets one by three in a big one after

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star break. And this was not only big

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<v Speaker 1>for the Nets, it was big for Kyrie, who got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt in the Eastern Conference Finals against this very team

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<v Speaker 1>last year. He was done for the season with an

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<v Speaker 1>ankle injury, so this was his first time back in

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<v Speaker 1>that building. He said, it was obviously, you know, very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine. And we all saw that great video

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<v Speaker 1>of him hugging his dad on the court after it

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<v Speaker 1>was It was awesome. I loved watching that. And he

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<v Speaker 1>says that he sees the light at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel, because unless you've been living under a rock,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen that New York City and there may are

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<v Speaker 1>planning on phasing out vaccine requirements by March seventh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>this week. But that still doesn't include people who work

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<v Speaker 1>at Berkeley Center. So to me, this makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Even NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said it's just not logical

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<v Speaker 1>that unvaccinated players from away teams can play in Barclay Center,

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<v Speaker 1>but not Nets players, not Kyrie. This is so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not political. This is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where we're just not being pragmatic. How does that make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense? How does that keep people more safe? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally kidding as I say this, but the Nets

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<v Speaker 1>really have been robbed of some wins. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>could file some kind of suit to get back some

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<v Speaker 1>wins from the games that Kyrie could have directly impacted

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<v Speaker 1>their season. So when in doubt, whenever it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>anything like this, I like the saying you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be right, you need to get it right. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was not right. And now we're people try to

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<v Speaker 1>correct and everything in these big cities, you know, New

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<v Speaker 1>York City is following Boston and other cities that's phasing

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<v Speaker 1>this out. And I'm just speaking to this from a

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<v Speaker 1>sports standpoint. You know, I'm not I'm really I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>involved or care really about all the politics of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But from a sports standpoint, this has been an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>story to watch. You know, when we looked at the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>did you notice in the NFL playoffs we never heard

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<v Speaker 1>about players getting COVID? Isn't that convenient time? In the

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<v Speaker 1>honest they stopped all mandatory testing, all the protocols for

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<v Speaker 1>unvaccinated players, and Rogers fell on a sword. So many

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<v Speaker 1>asymptomatic players missed games in the regular season because they

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<v Speaker 1>tested positive, saying I feel fine, I feel fine, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been vaccinated, blah blah blah. And then playoffs hit and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, when I was watching the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many players out there don't feel so

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<v Speaker 1>hot today but are obviously not going to go get tested.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Super Bowl, like I'd love to know if

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<v Speaker 1>there was some way to retroactively test someone for COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were any players on the Super Bowl field

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<v Speaker 1>who had active COVID, we'll never know because the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>said this isn't working for us. So anyways, as the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA is trying to deal with city laws and ordinances,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been This has been kind of sketchy with

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<v Speaker 1>the Kyrie stuff, and I know fans for any team

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<v Speaker 1>are hoping he can play. He's an incredible player. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the Nets are expecting to get Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>back from injury this week. He's missed one and a

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<v Speaker 1>half months. They have new acquisitions like Ben Simmons, backup

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<v Speaker 1>veteran point guard Gore and drag So just watch out

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets are coming and keep an eye on the

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<v Speaker 1>politics in New York City because if Kyrie is able

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<v Speaker 1>to play in home games, that's really big to finish

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<v Speaker 1>up this last quarter of the season. But come on, Mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. Yeah, at this point, it's ridiculous. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. Even when you look at tennis, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Djokovic is getting robbed. You know, he probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have won the Australian. He probably would have just won

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<v Speaker 1>an Acapulco. I mean, I'm a Nate Dolphan, so hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it, but it's getting ridiculous. I look if

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<v Speaker 1>the nets when it there's one person in this country

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty famous who's gonna be happy about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's Joe Rogan. You know he's rooting for Kyrie anyway. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back on Rogan at the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's good. Yeah, yeah, alright, So it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>me to unleash on what I want on Lesha. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's less of an unleash and uh, it's more of

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<v Speaker 1>the elephant in the room. So I'm gonna take my

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<v Speaker 1>comedy hat off for a second, and um, just really

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<v Speaker 1>give a huge shot out this. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect time to mention this. If we're gonna mention

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<v Speaker 1>this on this show is right now during our unleashed segment.

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<v Speaker 1>But some pretty amazing is happening in the world right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, often during times of darkness, there's certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that inspire, and um, it shows the best of us,

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<v Speaker 1>the avry and us and the humility and loyalty of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now you've got four, four absolute champions, four

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<v Speaker 1>the best boxers of our era and that is not hyperbole,

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<v Speaker 1>who have decided to go back to their home country.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of Vitality Klitchko, he's the mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>keV and his brother. Of course, everyone knows the Klitchko brothers, Lomanchenko,

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<v Speaker 1>who's currently i think ranked eighth in the pound for

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<v Speaker 1>pound best fighters in the world. And also now we

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<v Speaker 1>got Alexander Oosik who just beat Anthony Joshua, who's set

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<v Speaker 1>to fight him again I think in May. As of

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<v Speaker 1>right now, that fight is still on, but all four

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<v Speaker 1>of them are back in the Ukraine fighting against the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians in this war, and um, that's just an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>thing for them to do that. I'm sure that's inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>the people in the Ukraine. It's really inspiring the world

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<v Speaker 1>and really making Vladimir Putin look bad so and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we need right now. This was a horrible act

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<v Speaker 1>of aggression and I just want to take a moment

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<v Speaker 1>too for us that unleashed in myself to our hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>go out to the people in Ukraine who are suffering

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<v Speaker 1>because of this unjust war. It almost feels like war

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<v Speaker 1>is antiquated, like you just can't do it anymore. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, guys, just boxers fighting in this thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got kids underground and bunkers going to school, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a beautiful thing to see sports highlighted in

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<v Speaker 1>such a way during such a horrible time by these

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<v Speaker 1>four brave young champions deciding to put their fame and

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<v Speaker 1>riches aside and go fight for their country to make

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<v Speaker 1>a point, and their points being heard the world round.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to say it's an amazing thing

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<v Speaker 1>and shout out to all four of those absolute Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>beasts fighting for their country and for what's right. That

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome, be honest, very well said it's it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to see you get deep. Sometimes I'd never take you seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was hard not to their Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and bring in our guests to switch

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<v Speaker 1>it back over to hoops. Frank Kaminsky's next. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>former men's National College Player of the Year from the

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin Badger's top ten NBA draft pick and current member

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<v Speaker 1>of the best team in the NBA, the Phoenix Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Kaminski is here. Frank, thanks for joining Unleashed. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. That was a very nice introduction. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine to pay me so much. I teased earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm still hearing funny stories from our wedding weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You were at the wedding obviously three years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear I'm still hearing crazy stories. It seems like all

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<v Speaker 1>of Sam's Wisconsin friends and all of my Georgia friends

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of coupled off like an episode of love.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never heard did you find love that weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I did not find love. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. I was not searching for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was definitely with some individuals I'll keep names out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, there was definitely some Love Island type situations

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<v Speaker 1>going on. It's like good episode of the Office where

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's like, Jim and Pam's wedding is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the single greatest hook up destination on planet Earth, and

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding was a great spot. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bachelors and bachelorettes that were enjoying themselves. Yeah, Lebby,

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say loves a little I mean

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<v Speaker 1>loves a little bit. It's the wrong word. You were.

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<v Speaker 1>You used the wrong word. I would advanced differently. I

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<v Speaker 1>would did anyone it was fun? Yeah? Did anyone smash

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<v Speaker 1>There was a great time. I'll just say that that

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<v Speaker 1>one was a great time. There was just there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many funny things. I mean, both of them just have

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<v Speaker 1>Sam and Olivia both have like great friends, good people,

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<v Speaker 1>good personalities. I think you know Sam's friends are. They're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like me. They're just goofballs, like John. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a tiny T shirt from Sam's bachelor party in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico that he decided to wear under beneath his black

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<v Speaker 1>tie suit and this bust out. At one point it

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<v Speaker 1>was about six sizes too small. It's just just funny

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<v Speaker 1>goofy stuff. It's a lot of fun. We have this

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<v Speaker 1>funny picture framed in our house of like the dance

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<v Speaker 1>floor of everyone dancing and Frank's head is like two

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<v Speaker 1>heads above everyone else. Really Jesse, Frank and it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a great picture. We're glad you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of fun. Yeah. I gotta give

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out to Jerry. Jerry's my favorite. Jerry is

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in law who has never met a stranger.

0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.360
<v Speaker 1>He's this kind of handsome Italian guy who just everyone

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<v Speaker 1>loves and at our wedding, the whole wedding party started

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<v Speaker 1>chanting Jerry, Jerry. We have no idea why, they just

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<v Speaker 1>love him. Jerry's the best. Yeah, alright, Frank. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking a little bit before. Um, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this myth out there that you're Serbian because you played

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<v Speaker 1>in the Serbian League. But and you're not Jewish, even

0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 1>though your last name is Commitsky. Me and you met,

0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about TI asked you about your

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<v Speaker 1>bar Mitz fun. You told me you didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about. And I still don't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are you exactly? What's your background? We're all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, told you this all my great grandparents

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.440
<v Speaker 1>are somewhere different. We've actually tried to do like the

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<v Speaker 1>ancestry dot com, like find out where everyone's from, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's all over the place where just those

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern European immigrant Chicago families, like we got Polish, Irish, German, Serbian, Croatian.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandma I think is part Czechoslovakia, And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to know because especially on my dad's side

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<v Speaker 1>of the family, there wasn't there pretty poor, so there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a lot of records kept, so it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>truly know, but it's it's a lot. So you won't

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<v Speaker 1>be playing for the Serbian national team. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the US of A. Um, I mean I could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that they were like they were leaving it

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<v Speaker 1>open ended, like, yeah, maybe Frank will play for the

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<v Speaker 1>Serbian national team, and that's funny, You're not even Serbian.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. I mean I I technically I am, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the hold up on that stuff is, I

0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you have to give away your summers basically

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a different country, you know, training camps

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, you know, especially like I couldn't imagine doing

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<v Speaker 1>it after this last season where we only had like

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<v Speaker 1>a seven and a half week off season to just

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<v Speaker 1>go basically. I know, guys from like Devon went from

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<v Speaker 1>our team, he went from playing in the finals to

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<v Speaker 1>two days later he's on a plane to go play

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<v Speaker 1>in the Olympics. Like that's that's that's that that turns

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<v Speaker 1>into a lot And wasn't he on the same flight

0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:36.880
<v Speaker 1>as some Bucks players that Yeah, he was. It's just god, yeah,

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the competition. You don't want to see those. I think

0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday, We're on his flight with

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<v Speaker 1>him afterwards. It's just that's tough. You gotta get beat

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody and go play with them on the same team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. Speaking of tough, I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>good insight to it from Sam over the years of

0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:57.280
<v Speaker 1>how grueling mentally a season is. And just think you

0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.080
<v Speaker 1>guys have been like many pros since college because you

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<v Speaker 1>were so in the spotlight at Wisconsin. You went to

0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 1>two final fours. You had more attention than most college players.

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed lately you're off social media. What has that

0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>done for you? How has that helped you? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just so much for me, it's become it became

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of overwhelming, you know. I I'd slowly have

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<v Speaker 1>like gotten less and less involved with it over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of time to like, I think a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, I just deleted the apps off my phone. Nice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have my ways to get my news

0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and things that like. I just there's so many opinion

0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.920
<v Speaker 1>based things out there, you know, especially with like politics

0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. I don't like waking up in

0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the morning and reading and seeing like bad things happening.

0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I like starting my day off on like a good note.

0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten really into like mindset training and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think just getting rid of social media for

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.760
<v Speaker 1>me help me just kind of be happier, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see the things I want to see in the stories

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see, and I can control it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more Like when you sign into Twitter and

0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.919
<v Speaker 1>you're just reading negative stuff. It just got it just

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<v Speaker 1>got old and to be too much for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really like it that way. So Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really go on there at all anymore either.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That one's a little bit harder because especially

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I got friends that are getting married and

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<v Speaker 1>having kids, and they post stuff about their babies and

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and I don't get to see a

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of that stuff. But I also don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of I just don't like what social

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.680
<v Speaker 1>media has turned into. So that's basically what it boils

0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.959
<v Speaker 1>down to. What's mindset training. It's a lot of different stuff.

0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's about like controlling your thoughts, your breathing,

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially I've I've always done it well with basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've kind of incorporated it into like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, you know, because the last couple of

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.280
<v Speaker 1>years it's gone through a lot like hardship wise, being

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<v Speaker 1>injured two out of the last three seasons. You know,

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of weighs on you, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially right now. I'll like what I'm this season. Our

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:50.680
<v Speaker 1>team is the best team in the NBA, and I

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to play since November, and it's it's

0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.960
<v Speaker 1>it's been tough. So I'm just trying to mentally train

0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.600
<v Speaker 1>myself because I know I'm gonna come back at some

0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.560
<v Speaker 1>point this season, like kind of keep myself with the

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.160
<v Speaker 1>same mental approach every single day, try to attack rehab

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like I would attack like a basketball game, Like kind

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of shift my mindset around to be able to stay

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.439
<v Speaker 1>in the same mental space so that when I do

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<v Speaker 1>come back, I'm right where I need to be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were playing incredible too when eighton went down. You

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<v Speaker 1>were playing incredible, So I assume that it's extra frustrating

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>because you were on such a streak playing some of

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>your best basketball. Yeah. Yeah, that definitely, uh definitely makes

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit harder, you know. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like right after that I had a thirty one point game,

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.919
<v Speaker 1>which was my career high, and kind of right at

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the game after I started feeling something weird

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.240
<v Speaker 1>in my knee, and then like the next game after

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that was like the last one. So it really did

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 1>happen fast. So like the emotional high too, like kind

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of an emotional low happened really fast. But I did what.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up having surgery this year so that I

0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.159
<v Speaker 1>could come back this season. So that's it's all been

0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the goal of trying to compete for a championship. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia knows this. We've been close. I've been close a

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, and I really want I just really

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>want one really badly. Yeah, well they're getting one. It

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.119
<v Speaker 1>would be like against the universe if you retire without

0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 1>without a ring of some kind. I don't want to

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 1>harp on this too much, but we recently had Ryan Lee,

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>former NFL player, on the show. He battled addiction, he

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.400
<v Speaker 1>went to prison, and now he's an advocate for mental health,

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:24.360
<v Speaker 1>especially mental health when it comes to athletes. And like

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, I get it with trades and being waived

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and injuries, and even politics on the team and all that.

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so much you guys deal with. But

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to the average fan, they're probably like, what do you

0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 1>have to complain about. You're a millionaire, you're happy, you know,

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 1>girls want you, Your life's good. How do you explain

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to someone who doesn't get it why a season is

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so taxing. I mean, at the end of the day,

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we're all still human beings, like we have, we go

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>through the same struggles that everyone else goes through. Obviously,

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you can look at money in any situation and think

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that should you know, I think to an average person,

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.879
<v Speaker 1>you would think that would cure all your problems, but

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. The same real world problems can follow literally

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>any single person. You know, it's just different types of

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>frustration for athletes, you know, sometimes like things that bother

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:15.119
<v Speaker 1>us may not bother someone else, but also things that

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 1>bother the regular people definitely still bother us. So it's

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>hard to explain because I only know the one way obviously,

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>going from Wisconsin to getting drafted. But I see like

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 1>my family and everything, and like what they go through,

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:33.199
<v Speaker 1>and obviously the money makes things nice, but also you know,

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like being in a situation like I hate to keep

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 1>bringing this one up, but like the situation I'm in,

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.680
<v Speaker 1>like everything, You're on the best team in the NBA.

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people dream about being able to

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>play and help and do everything, and I'm kind of

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the sidelines right now watching it all happen.

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's and that's difficult. That weighs on you. That

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>can like that stuff can definitely follow you home because

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, our careers are kind

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:58.479
<v Speaker 1>of our lives, and basketball kind of it doesn't just

0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.439
<v Speaker 1>stop when you leave the gym. It kind follows you

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 1>everywhere you go. Yeah, yeah, Well, wishing you the best man.

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>You guys got a good chance this year. You're what's

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the timeline for you coming back? Right now? Hopefully I'll

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>be back in and I think it's like three weeks

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>from now. That's what I'm aiming for, you know, I'm

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm in that ramp back up to play because when

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you've been out for so long, you've got to go

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>through the whole ramping back up to play process. So

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I'm in right now. I'm back

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on the court and everything, which definitely feels good because

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.199
<v Speaker 1>there was a good ten weeks span there where I

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do anything, literally just every single day just basically

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>walking around doing nothing. You're watching any good shows if

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not on social media, I know you like to

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>watch it with the subtitles on. By the way, I

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. I watch every show at the

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.239
<v Speaker 1>subtitles on, and now I got my wife into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I like it, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I speak English, it just makes it more enjoyable. Why

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>do you watch it with the subtitles on? I actually

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>have a good reason. My grandma can't hear very well.

0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.360
<v Speaker 1>So when we were kids, every single thing we had

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to watch on view with my grandma had subtitles on,

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and I just liked it, so I kept doing it.

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>So I've been watching TV with subtitles forever, and I

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people it's like you watch a

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>show like Peaky Blinders where you can't understand what they're saying,

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's why people is like I had to watch

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<v Speaker 1>subtitles with that. Now I do it with everything mine was.

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 1>My grandma can't here very well. That's a great that's

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a great reason. Yeah, the British shows are almost the worst.

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You're like I know this is my language, but there

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 1>are there are some shows it's really tough like there

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know those things too, Like I'm sure we've

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 1>all listened to songs before and think that the lyrics

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>are one thing, and then the lyrics are something totally different.

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the same ways with movies sometimes, like

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>what you hear sounds so much different than what they're

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>actually saying. Yeah, yeah, I know you're right. Okay, you

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>mentioned your grandma. What a lot of people don't know

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>about you. I think too. You always talk about being

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>from Chicago, the Chicago area. Your aunt worked for the

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Bulls in the Jordan era. You grew up a fan

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Jordan era. I've always wanted to ask you,

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 1>how did that shape the way you view the n

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>b A, the way you loved basketball. I don't remember

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to not like being I was born

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>into that situation where my aunt worked for the Bulls.

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Like all of our birthday parties growing up, when we

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>were little kids and family were like at the practice facility.

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>My mom would just take us there and let me

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and my cousins just kind of like run around and

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>burn off all of our energy, Like you saw so

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>much stuff when we were kids. And obviously, you know,

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>my aunt always got us tickets to games, and you know,

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>especially when I got into high school, I would used

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>to call my aunt at like my lunch period and

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, can I get a couple of tickets

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to come to the game tonight. I just drive, like

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>right after school, I just drive down and go to

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Bulls games with my friends. So it's just like I

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I always wanted to play in the NBA.

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>That was just like a dream of mine because you know,

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of born into having a family member

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be a part of everything. And obviously Michael Jordan and

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Chicago everyone had posters of him all over my wall

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, Like my aunt used to

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>get all like the giveaways from the games and like

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>grab me one and give it to me. And it's

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know, I was a fan from day one.

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Why why Wisconsin? Why did you pick Wisconsin?

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wanted to play in the Big Ten.

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>That was, you know, being a Midwestern kid, I always

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play in the Big Ten. I'd be lying

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>if I didn't say Illinois was would have been my

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>number one option, but um, they never offered me a scholarship.

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So I had some other scholarship offers from Big ten

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>schools in Wisconsin. I just felt like fit me the

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>best of all those. And I mean I went and

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>visited on campus, and if you've ever gone to the

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>campus before, you would know why anyone would want to.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I went on the campus in the middle of summer

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm I looked at my dad.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to commit here. I was

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>ready to commit on my first visit, but my dad

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let me because I needed to take my mom

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 1>there first. And then I went with my mom like

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>two weeks later and committed like two days after that.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>When I got back home, I called and was like,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming here. John. If you've been in Madison, he

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>said he loved it. Oh, I love Madison. Yeah, I

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>loved it. I've I've done shows there. It's great. It's great. Yeah.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>But about the camp, this is so great? Is it

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just beautiful? We're talking about there's a lot of dime

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>pieces walking around. I mean to a seventeen year old

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>kid getting recruited that there was a lot of good

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>scenery between the lakes between it was bikini season. Yeah,

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. You know, you have the two lakes there

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>on campus. You go around, you see everything. Everyone's just happy.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was, and you know, being it was

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 1>only two and a half hours away from home, it

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>was important to me that my mom and my dad

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>be able to come to games and my family be

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. So I think that was why

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I was wanted to play in the big tents so badly,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>because I had never been far away from home, and

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I wanted to go that far away

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.719
<v Speaker 1>from home. So you go to Wisconsin, to one of

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the best places on earth, Madison, Wisconsin, and your career

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>blows up, especially your junior year. And fast forward, I

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>think it was your senior year on route to play

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in the National Championship when you made the s I

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>cover with Frank the Tank written behind you. What did

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that cover mean to you at the time? What did

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that feel like at the time, like you were a kid,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, it all happened so fast, ye that it

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>just felt like I don't know, it was just it

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>was definitely a weird feeling because it was like I

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to be you know, one of those guys.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. I remember, you know, you come out when

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you're high school class with a lot of people and

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you see people from your high school class that you

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>played against already like going one and done and two

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and done and already playing in the NBA, and you're

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, it's just like a competition thing. I wanted

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to be one of those, like one of those guys.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, when everything started happening, it was

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>just like I couldn't believe it at the time. And

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>then I think the first time it really hit me

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>was you know, when I was I think it was

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it was me and Josh after we made the Final

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>four that we were on the Sports Illustrated cover, like

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the first time we were on it, like just going

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>crazy after we beat Arizona the first time. And that's

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>when I like it kind of hit me that when

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>we were going to the Final four and every and

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like, wow, like we're really like doing this because

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we used to talk about it, like about changing the

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>culture in Madison, but like talking about and doing it

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>were like two completely different things. And then starting to

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>get more and more notoriety and everything. I just I

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just liked playing. That was that was

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the phone and Olivia. I'm sure Sam's told you we

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>were just a bunch of idiots, Like we didn't really realize,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a lot of the stuff we were doing.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>We were just like having fun and just enjoying ourselves

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and just everything that came along. It was cool. We

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>all did it. It was fun. I just like, I

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>literally looked back on my college career and it makes

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>me smile and like kind of want to cry at

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the same time, just because of how much I enjoyed

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it and how much fun I had, and like the

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>relationships that we all have now, and it's like it's

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>cool seeing everybody like grow up and start to move

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>on and have families and start their own thing, and

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, it's I have a lot of

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>pride about what we did and what we accomplished. I mean,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>not only have I heard this all retold from the Deckers,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.479
<v Speaker 1>but also media members have come up to me when

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they found out I was married to Sam and said,

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never enjoyed covering a team as much as I

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>did those two Wisconsin teams, the fourteen fifteen teams, and

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it was you guys were just a bunch of vidiots,

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>genuinely friends, and it's like you were playing backyard basketball

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and just having way too much success. Yeah, I mean

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you go. You even go to like the tournament press conferences,

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like you see the other teams, like you're all on

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and everyone's like in the thing like

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>serious like this, and here we are just like joking

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>around with people, like not answering any questions seriously. You know.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I even remember in the last final four, we had

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>golf carts taking us around the stadium and we were

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>literally like trying to hijack the golf carts and like

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>driving around ourselves and just like goes righte them. I remember,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like we were just nothing was too serious. Like it

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>was like off the court, everything was like a joke

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and it was like our time to have fun. But

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>then like when on the port happened, it was like

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>serious and like go time. And that's why if we

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>would have been just serious and not friends, are not close.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if we would have enjoyed

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the experience as much as we did. That that was

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>what made it so fun. We were so close enjoying

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>ourselves so much, and we were having so much success,

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and I wish we could have won one of the two.

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But I mean what we did and what we accomplished,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone expected out of us, So it's

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just it's amazing that all that happened. Well, now you're

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>on like you said, like we all know, you're on

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>another great team. How do you compare those two teams?

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Is the vibe the same? I mean, obviously you were

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, you were on a bad team for a

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>little while. Is being loose and being friendly because from

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>a fans perspective, all you see is the talent out there.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, these guys are talented, they're gonna win.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's obviously not enough. Is it the chemistry? And

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is part of that chemistry being loose and having fun

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and liking each other. Absolutely, I think that's a huge

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Like what your culture is as a team,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen it in the NBA. One bad one

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>bad egg can kind of spoil it for everybody, and

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>especially from what I got here my first year in Phoenix,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>we missed the play us. We weren't very good, But

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>like that bubble team, like it gets talked about a lot,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we went eight no in the bubble, and that's really

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>what did it. Like, we spent so much time together

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>in the bubble, you literally couldn't spend time with anyone else.

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Everyone got close. And then the next year we traded

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>for Chris and Chris came in, and Chris has been

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>just like a huge mentor and like another great personality

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to have in our locker room. And it's just been

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it's been great. Like I see a lot of similarities,

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to compare the two and say

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they're the same, because I mean, I don't think any

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>team in the world could be much closer than our

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin team was. And obviously the NBA is different. People

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>have wives, children, kids, different things. But this team is

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>very close and we got a lot of great personalities

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>on it. It has been a lot of fun to

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it. You mentioned the bubble year,

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but the next year, you guys go to the finals

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and you got to contribute and did great. Obviously it

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>was against the Milwaukee Bucks and a state that's been

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>so good to you, a state that loves you so much.

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Did the moment in weight of that ever hit you

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>or was it more after wrapped up, you're like, whoa,

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what just happened. It's definitely more after the fact for me.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what kind of how it's always how it's been.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I get so focused and like kind of into it

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to basketball that you don't really take

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a moment to stop. And especially in the finals, everything

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is kind of coming quickly. It's like game after a

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>game and you're preparing, Like the second a game is done,

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you're already preparing for the next game. So it's just

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>happening being after thing. It was just cool to be

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>back in Wisconsin. You know, my family could drive. It's

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like an hour and ten minutes away from home, you know,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>having all my family and everybody there. You know, I

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of the familiar faces from Wisconsin and everybody.

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just it was so cool. It's just it's weird

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>how that works out. The first time you play in

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the finals, you play against you know, the team that's

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>close to where your college was. It's it was it

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>was a pretty cool experience, you know. And and it

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>used to be funny when I was working, When I

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>was warming up in the finals, there used to be

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>fans there and everyone would scream out, hey, Frank, I

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>hate I love you, but I hope you lose. It's

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just nice. There was a lot of people cheering

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, which was really cool because there's obviously so

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>many die hard Wisconsin fans. But it's hard to put

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>into words like kind of how that experience works out.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's very cool, but you also still want

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to win. At the end of the day, where there's

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>some red jerseys in the crowd, they definitely were. Yes,

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it was cool and it's crazy. Like what

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I tell people this all the time they ask about Wisconsin. Actually,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody just asked me this. It's like Wisconsin fans are crazy.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Like there's some crazy college fans. I know, the Kentucky

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>people are probably just nuts, but like Wisconsin fans will

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>support like the second you leave and you go somewhere else,

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll still support you no matter what. It doesn't matter

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>which pro team you go on to play for, what

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>else you do. They're still very very supportive of you.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's cool. Like I still feel all the love

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>from Wisconsin and everything. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember when

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I recorded I actually recorded my first album there and

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in Madison, and I remember walking around and I think

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it was basketball season. I remember correctly. The whole town

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>looks like they're on the team. I mean everyone's just

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in the apparel. All you see is red. I mean,

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys really do have some great fans for sure.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you buy a jersey? I didn't buy jersey. I

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't buy a jersey. I should have. But now I'm

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy yours now and I'm gonna get its signed perfect. Yeah.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And I want to Turkish. I want to Sam Decker

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Jersey to Olivia. I want both of my my I

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>used to call you guys the Ivory Towers, so I

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>want both, Jane, what do you call Sam's team in Turkey?

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>What do you call them? Bops? Yeah, we're not very

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 1>PC around here. I don't know how much our Turkish

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>listenership is. Yeah. Well I'm Greek. It's good ribbon. Yeah. Yeah.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Greeks and Turks really don't like each other too, so

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a little got a little thing. Yeah, it's like

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Duke in North Carolina. Just speaking of the Bucks, and

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>when people look at what could be the NBA Finals

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, you know a lot of people nets Bucks

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Heat Bowls. There are so many good teams in the

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>East this year, you guys are a favorite to win

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the West. What team matchup wise do you think

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>would be the toughest handle for the Suns? And if

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>it is the Bucks again, what will that mean the

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>second time around for you personally? From like a competition standpoint,

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I said this. I remember after

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>our junior year. It's like when we got into the

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>tournament our senior year, we saw that we had the

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>ability to play Kentucky again, and that's obviously like who

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to play, Like you want to play that

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>team that beat you, And that's just like from a

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>competitive standpoint, like I'd love to be able to play

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee again in a series and beat them. As far

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 1>as matchup wise, you know, it's different. Every different round

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs brings a different type of matchup. And

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>that was the cool part about, you know, our run

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's like every single round we played we

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>saw something completely different. The Lakers playing against Lebron and

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>them having Anthony Davis, and then going against the Clippers.

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Kauai was out, but they played smaller on us.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Then we went to Denver and had to play against

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>your kich and the problems that he brings. And then

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we played the Clippers and they played smaller on us,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and just like adjusting of that, having to then go

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>play the Box who are playing way bigger, and just

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>adjusting to all that because out of Honice is a

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>matchup problem. So you just kind of have to be

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good part about our team. We're

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>able to adjust to pretty much anybody we've played against

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>so far in the past two years. So it's hard

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>to truly know. Obviously, Janice caused a lot of problems

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>for us last year, so I think if our team

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is super competitive, so I think anyone would say we'd

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>want to play Milwaukee again. I have a question I'm

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>very interested in actually, Like in my error, I'm a

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>little older than you guys, somebody who was six and

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>eleven seven ft like you. They're in the block their

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>whole life. You're very good in the block. I mean,

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>you've got great footwork in the block, but you also

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>can shoot your modern big man. What's the prep like now?

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Is it mostly outside shooting mid rangers or do you

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of work in the block? I mean,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>are all plays just you know, cheat out to the

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>three point line and get a kick. I mean, what's

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it like now being a big man. I still do everything,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think that's a good part about

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>our team. Everybody kind of works on everything because the

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>way offenses go and the NBA big has got to

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to score kind of in multiple positions. You

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta be able to screen and roll. You gotta be

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>able to catch the ball in the middle of the

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>paint and be able to kick it out and pass.

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be able to kind of see the floor.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Especially the modern big man has to be able to

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable with the ball in his hands. And I

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of my game came from I was

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I grew late. I grew later on in high school,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>so I was always a guard growing up. So I

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>was just comfortable playing that position. I kind of kept

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>it with me as I kept going. Personally, I love

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>shooting threes. I just always have, you know, And I

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a big jumper or anything like that, so I

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>just knew that wasn't gonna be a huge part of

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>my game. So I just felt more comfortable playing on

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter. But I think you see in the NBA

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>more and more big guys keep stepping further and further away.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Some of them shouldn't, but they do, and they think

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>they're a little bit better shooters than they are. But

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's that's kind of how it's becoming. And you know

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that's good because that fits right into my game. Okay,

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got to ask you when you watch the college game,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how much you're able to catch. I

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>know it's really tough the pro level. But the Big

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Ten Tournament starts March nine, that's Wednesday, next Wednesday. Who

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>do you like right now Wisconsin is on a role

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>winning their last four. I mean, yeah, I'll never say

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>anyone other than even if they were in last place,

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I would say Wisconsin is gonna win the Big Ten Tournament.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of me. I'm I'm a super loyal fan,

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and obviously you know I went there accomplished things there,

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>so but it's good to see them back playing really well.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I know last year was kind of tough for them,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just with the whole everything that went down

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the season. But I love seeing

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>him playing well and they got a good team and

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they can make a run, because that's that's what

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I want. I love being especially I got so many

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>friends that went to different Big ten schools at this point.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it when they play. One of my best

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>friends played it. You know you were there at my

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Jersey retirement night. One of my best friends went to

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Purdue and war was Perdue Letterman jacket when we played

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>perduing Perdue that night, and he wanted he always felt

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like crying. So I hope they played Perdue in the

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>championship game and end up beating him. That's what I'm

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>hoping for. Al Right. Well, I didn't ask what you

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>were hoping for. I asked what you think. Like, Yeah,

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Olivia pretty good too. Yeah, so people can pick who

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 1>they also root for. You know, it's a little heart

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and its it's Alma mater. Al Right, Frank, We've had

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a great time with you man, so much insight. Now

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna switch to something a little more personal. We're

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a little fun with you since you know

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Olivia personally, so I'm sure you used to go one

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on one with Sam and practice back at Wisconsin all

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the time. Well, now you are going to take on

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Olivia one on one in a different game. Yeah, it's

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>a different game. It's time to find out who knows

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Sam better, his former teammate for his wife and a

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>little Yeah it's Baby's Baba and a little Sam Decker

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>trivia show. Okay, I love it, all right, So here

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>we go. Okay, first up, so I'm going to ask

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>what number did Sam Decker air at Wisconsin. We'll start easy, Okay,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.919
<v Speaker 1>they both know. Alright, we're starting easy and we're getting

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>gradually harder. What did Sam say? And Frank will go first?

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>And Olivia, what did Sam say his favorite class was

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>at Wisconsin? H Olivia, you're both wrong. Oh my god,

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope he doesn't see this. It's entomology. Yes, yes,

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:40.439
<v Speaker 1>well you know you can't get it right now. Yeah,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>he had to raise the bug. He had a caterpillar

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in his room that turned into him off. So the

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>kid likes bucks. All right, here's another one on Draft night,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Who did Jalen Rose compare Sam too? That made Kyle

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Lowry tweet? Is Jalen Rose just comparing people that look

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>a like Andre Carolinko? Good gas because they do look alike. Olivia,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, no, no clue, no clue. Okay, it

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was he works for the Knicks now Wally Zerbiac. So

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>at this point, so far, neither one of you guys

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>know Sam. Hard question, it's got better than this? Yeah? Well, hey, listen,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean we got this is we're

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about friendship. Who knows Sam better? Okay, we gotta

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>go with the good ones this one. Probably Frank's gonna

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>have the advantage. How many points did Sam score in

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>his first career NBA start? Well, actually, Olivia made of

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the advantage. How many points did he scored in his

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>first start? Olivia thirty against the Memphis Grizzlies. We were dating,

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think engaged yet? Yeah, is that what one?

0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>You over right there? You're like, I'm a married this

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>guy kid can play. Yeah, we weren't even close to

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>getting married until that game. Now, I was watching in

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin with his sister Hannah. We got together at a

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>bar in Milwaukee to watch the game Sam's first start.

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>We didn't know he was starting until like thirty minutes before.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh my god. And then they played the

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Bucks next, and he was flying in Milwaukee after and

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>uh that that was an awesome week. He was very

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>happy that week. That's incredibly I remember watching that too, Yeah,

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>he had. He was on twelve or nineteen shooting. It

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>was against the Grizzlies. Incredible, incredible start, incredible debut. All right,

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Which restaurant did Sam once say is home to his

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>favorite hamburger? Frank Culver's, Olivia, Yeah, Culver's. If we're going

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>with just like a chain, is that what you mean? Yeah,

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you're both right, you're both right. Okay, we're getting there.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>We're getting there, alright. So like if you know, because

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just say somebody had kidnapped, you know, he's playing

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>in Turkey, someone kidnaps him, and they say, if you

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>entered these questions, he lives. He's doing okay right now.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>At first that he's gonna be gone, But now we're

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>getting back, We're getting them back, all right. What team

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>once hosted a Sam deck or bobble Head Night? The Rockets?

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 1>The Rockets, Oh boy, I'm worried about Sam's well being

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's the Wisconsin Timber Timber Rattlers minor league

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>baseball team. I've got it over here. You should have

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>known that one. You should have known that one. All right.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a big, a big gift in Wisconsin. Is he's

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>holding up brought Zuka. It's it's a machine that shoots

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>brought worst. That is very Wisconsin. I'll give you a

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>signed one. Yeah, I mean he probably would rather I

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>have it at this point, since you didn't even know

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it existed. All right? Who made headlines when they trolled

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Sam for not graduating from college? Me, me, what do

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you say? I think he tweeted it to me something

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>at me once and I said, I'm sorry, I don't

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>respect the opinion of a college drop out. That's really good.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>That's fair, Olivia. You have a guess or an answer.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>It was me, Well, no, it's I mean, it's got

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>to be that well, according to Samon it was his mother.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>According to Sam, it's his mother. Yeah, so I don't know.

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. I remember tweeting something at him about

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that too. Didn't his mom make a mow the lawn too?

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like two days after he was

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>drafted or something he had to mow his parents law

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And come on, well, you know what, Frank gets that

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>one because he also did it. You get negative two

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>points because you didn't even know that Frank did it,

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so that you're now you're I'm taking I'm taking a

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>point away like what they do in boxing. All right,

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>last question, where did Sam take Olivia on their first date?

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't answer this yet. I want to guess mm hmm,

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and you honest, I don't think whatever answer you have

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>will be accurate. Well, I just hope you know it

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>capital girl. No, No, I take it back. I don't know.

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, I'm not. I have no idea

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>what answer you have, be honest, but it was just

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to a Mexican restaurant. Our second date was to watch

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a Packer game. No, no, no. Our first date was

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to watch a Packer game in Houston, and he brought

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>his roommate Max Nice. He was serious about you at

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. Was that the answer you had? Well, I

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's no answer, but I was just I

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>just knew that you would know. Yeah. Yeah, I would

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>just say thankfully he didn't ask you, because I know

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>if you you would have been like take me, flyw

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 1>me on a private jet. We're going to New York

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and I want to go to a steakhouse. Because you're

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>what they call I see. You don't look like a

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>back Sam. You're not a two for twenty at Applebee's.

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that. Sam will tell you that I

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>bought a bucket of beer. You got buckle beer. I

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>see you were trying to downplay. You're trying to just

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to play it off like you were just like, hey,

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm blow maintenance and little did he know. That's what

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.439
<v Speaker 1>as as girls we do that. We do this thing

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of like you're you gotta be cool girl for a while,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>right right, and then you get married. Yeah, You're like,

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll go anywhere and take me to Applebee's, anything for

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.280
<v Speaker 1>twenties fine, and then a couple of years into marriage,

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you're like, Okay, I want to go to Paris and

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I want you to take me to one of the

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>two sushi chefs who are Michelin rated in Paris. Now, well,

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that's it. So I think Sam's okay. A good date though, Yeah,

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he survived. He survived, he made it. He's

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay. So that's the game. Yeah, good job,

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be honest. Well that's it. Thank you so much, Frank. Frank,

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. Thanks so much for

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>joining us. Yea, thanks for having me. Okay, I hate

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to start this segment off on a bad note, But

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>we've got to talk about it because it rocked the

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>betting world this past weekend. Peter Andrew from bed MGM,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>what happened to all these ranked teams losing on the

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 1>same Saturday? What did you see? Well, it turned out

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>all right for us, but first first time ever the

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>top six seeded teams in a given week on a

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>given day all went down. I don't think it's as

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 1>crazy and as big as surprise as some people will think.

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Some of those matchups. I think probably the Arizona Colorado

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>one is the most peculiar. Colorado was at home, so

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the one I considered kind of an outlier. But

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, people don't realize sometimes a team like St.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Mary's you're in, you're out. Give teams like Zagga Trouble

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that is the only team in the w c C

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that's even remotely close to beating them in a in

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a conference game or a conference tournament game. So some

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of them not so crazy. But you saw teams like

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Alburn go down to Tennessee, Michigan State beat per Due,

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Baylor Kansas kind of a toss up between them two

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>in terms of how good they are. I think both

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 1>top ten teams at the time, and then the real

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>surprise to me or the team that I really like

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>going into next week and into the tournament. Arkansas over

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky j D note is awesome. I think you look

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>at that team, they have a legitimate shot at being

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a real threat in the tournament right now. I think

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at value, you want to take teams

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that could make some noise in their respective conference. Geames

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>men could make some noise in the tournament. I think

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that's you have to consider for some value in the future.

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So Arkansas forty two one right now five dollar bet

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.399
<v Speaker 1>when I mean they're they're a good team, and they're

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>only going to get better if they make it to

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the finals in the SEC tournament or they get a

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>four seed in the actual n C Double A tournament.

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>They are going to be way better than forty to one.

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I promise you that. So good time to take teams

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of in that level of that caliber. I watched

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that Gonzaga game. Do you think St. Mary's offered a

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>blueprint for how to beat Gonzaga by pounding it inside?

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They kind of went inside out? Or is it just

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that if Gonzaga plays a team with three white starters,

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Gonzaga's in trouble. Yeah, for a team that's got to

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>almost seven foot guys or seven inch foot guys, they

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 1>can be a bit soft the time. So I think

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it kind of is the blueprint. But that's also the

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of game that Gonzaga needs is a bit of

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>a wake up call. So happening towards the end of

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the season. I think we mentioned this even last year.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Losing a game in a conference tournament. That's great when

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it's happening before the n C Double a tournament, because

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.240
<v Speaker 1>that's how you get, you know, kind of whipped into shape.

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But you're not totally wrong. I think that is the blueprint,

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's what teams are going to now look to

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>do when Gonzaga is inevitably a one or two seed

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're looking to try to, you know, try to

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 1>scare them off. Joannest, I know you're so excited we're

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>talking hoops again. I can hear in your voice, and

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we are just getting into the crux of it. Now

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that All Star Break is over in the NBA, let's

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.720
<v Speaker 1>take another look at futures. The Warriors are the favorite

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to win it All at plus four that's better odds

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 1>than the Sun's, which surprises me. I know everyone's excited

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>about Golden State, but it just seems like the Sons

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>are head and shoulders above the rest, regardless of the

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul injury. Which team would you put your money

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.959
<v Speaker 1>on today, Pete Man, It's it's crazy on the West

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is interesting because Warriors do not look good right now.

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 1>So I think they're five and five in their last ten.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe don't have a pretty good skid. They

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>lost some pretty embarrassing games. You have to look at

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Suns. I still love this Warrior's team and similar

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>in a different way, but similar to the Gonzaga issue.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they need this kind of stretch to kind

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of get their stuff together. But the difference is Gonzaga

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is not facing a team like the Phoenix Suns in

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a conference tournament or in the first rounds of the

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>first couple of rounds n C Double A tournaments. So

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Sons are legit when you go to the East, though,

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 1>heat look awesome. Plus four fifty to win the Eastern

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Conference right now, that is a great value bet. You

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going to happen when it comes to

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the embied and hardened connection. It looks good so far.

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>The Nets, I still don't know what to expect of them.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>They're not to get political or COVID here, but they

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>still don't know what's going to happen with Kyrie, with

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the sanctions that are going to get lifted in New

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>York City. Pete, there's no room for that kind of

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>talk on this show, don't you know. We don't go

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>there any any reason to not take the nets. I'm

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all in, I'm kidding. I just unleashed on it in

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the open. It's like my main thing I want to

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about today, So i'd know, I don't know what's

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. I do know, indeed, plus a hundred two

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 1>an m v P. That's my lock. Even money right now,

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it's only going to go down in a way. Playing

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>with Harden is gonna help him because less doubles, more shooters.

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to get the looks and I

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>think points wise, he's gonna, you know, continue to accumulate.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's the one I feel real comfortable about. I know,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's joke. It's that's probably right there with

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>him at probably like plus one nine years so maybe

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, but I think in bids are

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>really safe. Bet Yeah. I mean this year, this is

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a good year to put put your money on a

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>sleeper because injuries are such a factor this year, Like

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I got, the Sun's winning at all. But it depends, right,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it depends if Frank to Take comes back the way

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 1>he played when Aton went down. It's all about Frank

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to Tank. We just spoke to him. If Frank Kaminski

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is not healthy, I'm not I am not betting on

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the Suns because that kid looked good when he was playing.

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it was DeAndre eight and went down, and

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>then he stepped in he started playing well. Because the

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Suns is all about the That's what I see. Chris Baul,

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Aden and Frank the Tank. Baby, I'm a Phoenix

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Suns fan. Now forget about the Turkish League Wisconsin Star,

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm about Frank the Tanks fan Peter. Last week he

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was all North Carolina with Tate Frasier. Joannis is as

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 1>as much of a sellout as anyone I've ever known

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in the sports world. Come on, yeah, Olivia, you're rubbing

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 1>off on me. I'm picking up some moves from you.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't lose if you root for everybody. Yeah, I

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>told you guys before the show too that I was

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:31.839
<v Speaker 1>a huge frank to Tank guy because of his time

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte. I hope, I hope you got me that

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>autograph in that little cameo video. That's really what I'm

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>looking for as we get into some craziness at work

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of weeks with marsh Madness, I

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>want to just revisit m v P one more time.

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You talked about Joel Embiid. We just saw him dunk

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 1>on the entire Knicks team. That was so gnarly. I'm

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure the people who worked concessions and sell tickets

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>were on the court as well. There were just a

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of bodies that he was flying over. He is

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the favorite, as you mentioned, Can you give us a

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of sneaky value picks? Maybe of m v P odds.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Yoki. He's obviously won it before, Janice has

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.879
<v Speaker 1>won it before. Is there anyone else we should look at?

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's gotta be John Moran. I'm pulling up his odds

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. John Moran is freaking awesome. So he's plus

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred. I mean, I think it was yes So

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we're recording on Monday. I think it was yesterday where

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they had that little give and go and he spun

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.919
<v Speaker 1>around the defender to lay it up. He is electric.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Even you look at them as a sleeper, maybe you

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>take them plus dred to win it all. I mean,

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they're right there in third place. They can easily go

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.879
<v Speaker 1>on to run and get hot. But but John Moran

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>is awesome and for the next fifteen years is gonna

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 1>be awesome in the NBA. Love it. Yeah, if he

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>stays healthy again. That's a it's a running theme with

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy who plays like that. You know he uh,

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he reminds me of a lot of guys who like

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to play above the rim. And you know that in

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that league, that can that can be a little bit

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of a liability. Yeah. I wouldn't compare him like for

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 1>like with Westbrook, but like you've seen the decline of

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Westbrook over the last two years versus what he was,

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was that high flyer again, kind of different

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 1>player but above the rim of the time, it feels like,

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 1>so hopefully it doesn't happen in the fizzles out like that.

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>He's got a little bit of a Derrick Rose vibe

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, and that's what scares me sometimes. Yeah, yeah, well, Pete,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>great stuff as always, Thank you so much. Next week

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll dig even further into March Madness and conference tournaments obviously,

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and then selection Sundays here before we know it, just

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>two weeks away, so I can't wait for that, Peter,

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and thank you so much. We got some treats for

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you from bed MGM, so for the next couple of

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>weeks you're ready. I love it. We like treats with

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 1>free stuff. You're honest love free stuff, especially a T shirt. Yeah,

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you should see this guy at an NBA game with

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a T shirt cannon. You've never seen someone moved so fast.

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>T shirt cannons can end all wars. Just send them

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 1>over right now to the current conflict and just say,

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>don't say it, don't go there. And Food is listening.

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he is a big, unleashed listener. Yeah, okay,

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 1>see all right, that was a lot of fun with

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Kamenski. We learned a lot about Olivia's wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they both barely know Sam, which was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope Ni gets better. He's a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of that team. And yeah, he's not serbian, so the

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<v Speaker 1>rumors are not true. He's about his serbian as Elizabeth

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