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Speaker 2: Welcome in What driven Nick Great?
Speaker 3: Episode two eighty four Ton to do today. We are
Speaker 3: really in the stretch run of the NFL season. We
Speaker 3: will get to all of that. We have one of
Speaker 3: our favorite games of play, Public Defender, pretty damn good
Speaker 3: money N'D football game last night, with one of the
Speaker 3: NFL rule oddities coming into play in a way that
Speaker 3: I think at first blush confuses people.
Speaker 2: When you really look at.
Speaker 3: It, it does technically make sense, but probably should be adjusted.
Speaker 3: We'll do all of that first, what missed the cut?
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan says, there's not gonna be any trades of
Speaker 3: me to the Chicago Bears bummer for the Bears Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift's Eras Tour ends. I know the Swifties are gonna
Speaker 3: get mad at me for this. I gotta be totally
Speaker 3: honest with you. I did not know that was still going.
Speaker 3: I was very like up on the Eras Tours news
Speaker 3: in the offseason. I felt like that was maybe served
Speaker 3: more to my Twitter algorithm in August. In early September,
Speaker 3: I thought it had already ended. Turns out I was
Speaker 3: wrong and also missing the cut my NBA Cup prediction
Speaker 3: because much like Lebron on if the Lakers aren't.
Speaker 2: Involved in it, I'm not that interested.
Speaker 3: And I you know what I thought it was when
Speaker 3: Lebron got to add to the resume first ever NBA.
Speaker 2: Cup champ title, It's like, okay, just.
Speaker 3: Another thing Jordan doesn't have. Now that the Lakers aren't
Speaker 3: even in the elimination round, like the knockout round, I'm like, eh.
Speaker 2: In season, tournament, James that really matter demand looking great,
Speaker 2: nice sweatshirt.
Speaker 3: I like that a lot. Good to see you, all right,
Speaker 3: Let's get right to the news of the week, which
Speaker 3: is the Champs stay.
Speaker 2: The Champs go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Kansas City Chiefs found another way to win.
Speaker 4: No matter what, They're just gonna keep playing in these
Speaker 4: nitty gritty games. Chris Jones actually came out and said
Speaker 4: that they played these games because it holds the ratings.
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a possibility that the way that
Speaker 4: they're playing in these close games could come back to
Speaker 4: bite them in the offseason or the playoffs the postseason?
Speaker 4: Should I say?
Speaker 2: Well? Listen, playoff games typically are quite close.
Speaker 3: Like even the Chiefs in this dynastic run have not
Speaker 3: had many postseason blowouts like the Super Bowl obviously went
Speaker 3: down to overtime. The Ravens game was one of the
Speaker 3: more lopsided playoff games the Chiefs have had, and because
Speaker 3: they were up ten for almost the entirety of the
Speaker 3: second half, but that's still they were up seven third
Speaker 3: and ten, had to hit the pass to NBS.
Speaker 2: That was a one score game.
Speaker 3: Obviously. The Bills game, Bills have the ball down three,
Speaker 3: you know, driving at the end of the game. That
Speaker 3: comes down to the very end. Now, the Dolphins game
Speaker 3: was a blowout, but then go on the previous year
Speaker 3: Eagles game comes down to the very end. Bengals game
Speaker 3: comes down to the very end. The Jags game it
Speaker 3: was they won by seven. It didn't feel quite as close,
Speaker 3: but that was the game that Mahomes got hurt. And
Speaker 3: the previous year when they didn't win. Bengals game goes
Speaker 3: to overtime. Bill's game goes to overtime. They blow out
Speaker 3: the Steelers, but over their last what is this nine
Speaker 3: playoff games, only one has been decided by more than
Speaker 3: one score. That was the Dolphins game when the Dolphins
Speaker 3: decided they didn't want to play in the cold. You
Speaker 3: had one, two, three, four, four literally decided on the
Speaker 3: last or second to last play of the game. And
Speaker 3: so I do think there is real situational football experience
Speaker 3: the Chiefs gain from this. I also think that folks
Speaker 3: are so lost in wanting the Chiefs to fail that
Speaker 3: we have now we haven't stopped and kind of acknowledged
Speaker 3: some of the things this team is accomplishing and Patrick
Speaker 3: is accomplishing. This was in Patrick's seventh season as hold on,
Speaker 3: I can't believe onna be this wrong. Eighteen Yeah, is
Speaker 3: seven seasons as a starter, because he has three Super
Speaker 3: Bowl wins, of Super BWL loss TWOFC Championship losses seven
Speaker 3: seasons as a starter, he has won seven divisional championships
Speaker 3: and he has lost five divisional games, So Mahomes has
Speaker 3: two more divisional titles. Then he has divisional game losses.
Speaker 3: That's incomprehensible, thirty five and five against the AFC West
Speaker 3: with seven divisional titles. Also in games that Mahomes trails
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, which means every single one of
Speaker 3: his losses have to be included. This because not to
Speaker 3: start the fourth quarter. It's at any point he has
Speaker 3: trailed in fifty two fourth quarters. He is now twenty
Speaker 3: six and twenty six so a hunt so like, I
Speaker 3: don't even know the context for that is no other
Speaker 3: quarterback is better than thirty four percent for their career
Speaker 3: in those spots.
Speaker 2: Mahomes is dead five hundred.
Speaker 3: And then there is the like, I do understand the
Speaker 3: frustration if you're an AFC West team or a team
Speaker 3: of another contender, which is demonse. What have we talked
Speaker 3: about all through this year's gambling show, how tough divisional
Speaker 3: games are, How no matter how good you are and
Speaker 3: how seemingly bad the opponent is, divisional games are just
Speaker 3: a different animal that the Chiefs last three divisional games.
Speaker 3: Broncos trying to kick a field goal to beat them,
Speaker 3: The Chiefs block it to win by two. The Raiders
Speaker 3: trying to get ready to kick a field goal to
Speaker 3: beat him, The Chiefs block it. I'm sorry. The Raiders
Speaker 3: fumble the snap and the Chiefs recover the fumble to
Speaker 3: win by two the Chargers.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs need a.
Speaker 3: Field goal to beat them, they doink it off the
Speaker 3: upright now, I will say the doink by the Chiefs
Speaker 3: third kicker of the year makes it feel luckier if
Speaker 3: you will, than that actually was. What that was was
Speaker 3: once again a perfectly executed game winning drive by Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: You pick up a third and ten early, you pick
Speaker 3: up a third and seven, ostensibly to ice the game.
Speaker 3: Kelsey caught it, stayed on his knee, and so that
Speaker 3: wasn't a lucky field goal. It was almost a horrific miss.
Speaker 3: But when you're on your third string kicker, sometimes you
Speaker 3: get the horrific misses.
Speaker 2: So here's why.
Speaker 3: There are two major reasons I'm not concerned about this
Speaker 3: at all. Listen, the offensive line needs to be better,
Speaker 3: and I'm still waiting for DJ Humphreys' news because he
Speaker 3: was an upgrade over Wanya Morris, but he left the
Speaker 3: game with an injury. He had been out of football
Speaker 3: for a year after a torn acl so they you know,
Speaker 3: that might have been grand opening, grand closing.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: And obviously the secondary has him in the same since
Speaker 3: Jalen Watson got hurt. All that's true, So that's legitimate.
Speaker 3: But securing the one seed is so disproportionately valuable under
Speaker 3: the new playoff format that that's right now all that matters,
Speaker 3: and the Bills losing this weekend plus the Chiefs escaping
Speaker 3: with a win makes it. So here's the situation for
Speaker 3: Kansas City demonsay, if they beat BA I'm sorry, beat
Speaker 3: Cleveland and then win their home game a week from
Speaker 3: Saturday against Houston, okay, and so they have to go
Speaker 3: to or Zo, beat Cleveland, beat Houston to get to
Speaker 3: fourteen and one. If Buffalo loses either of its next two,
Speaker 3: they play at Detroit and then they play the Patriots.
Speaker 3: So it really is Buffalo loses to Detroit and Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: loses either of its next two, and they play at
Speaker 3: Philly and then at Baltimore. If either if those things happen,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs lock up the one seed going in into
Speaker 3: the Christmas game against the Steelers. An all year long,
Speaker 3: that has been my focus because schedule and rest wise,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are in a very odd spot. So I
Speaker 3: want to take a moment here to discuss why I've
Speaker 3: so for the Chiefs chances to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: they go up so dramatically if they have the one
Speaker 3: seed locked before that Christmas game, because they the NFL
Speaker 3: is asking those four teams that play on Christmas to
Speaker 3: play as condensed of a three game stretch as any
Speaker 3: teams have ever played. Where you play Saturday, I'm sorry, Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday. Now,
Speaker 3: that's been done before on a Monday, Sunday Thursday schedule,
Speaker 3: but when the time's that short, it does warrant mentioning.
Speaker 3: This is a one o'clock kickoff, so you don't even
Speaker 3: get those extra seven hours of recovery time into your
Speaker 3: typical Thursday night game. And it's right before the playoffs start,
Speaker 3: and it's when the Chiefs had an early season by
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things there that are very disadvantageous.
Speaker 3: So now I want to get to the tricky thing
Speaker 3: for Kansas City. If they don't clinch until.
Speaker 2: After the Steelers game, okay.
Speaker 3: Because another way they can clinch is even if Buffalo
Speaker 3: wins all of their remaining games, if the Chiefs beat Cleveland,
Speaker 3: beat Houston, and then beat Pittsburgh, they clinch. So typical
Speaker 3: rest between football games is six days Sunday to Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I'm gonna reverse engineer this calendar to.
Speaker 3: Really try to lay this out for you guys, because
Speaker 3: it's an unprecedented spot Kansas City could find itself in.
Speaker 3: So the playoffs start January thirteenth, fourteenth, Okay, that's no,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, let me. I have to get your dates
Speaker 3: right on this. January eleventh, twelfth is when the playoffs start,
Speaker 3: all right, So we're just gonna use Sundays as the
Speaker 3: assumed day January twelfth.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: If the Chiefs have a bye, their playoffs start January nineteenth.
Speaker 3: So if you rest no one ever, you play January fifth,
Speaker 3: and then instead of having six days between games, you
Speaker 3: have thirteen days between games.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you have the bye. If the Chiefs though,
Speaker 2: decide to do what a lot of teams do and not.
Speaker 3: Play, guys in week eighteen, well, now, typically what you
Speaker 3: would average days between games, but that's not the case
Speaker 3: for Kansas City because their Week seventeen game is not
Speaker 3: on a Sunday, It's on a Wednesday, December twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: So if Kansas City were to say.
Speaker 3: We don't have it locked, we've got to play everyone
Speaker 3: through the Steelers game and then you want to rest
Speaker 3: people in Week eighteen, you are then looking at playing
Speaker 3: a game on December twenty fifth and then having twenty
Speaker 3: six days until your next game, which is a divisional
Speaker 3: round playoff game. That's unprecedented and unheard of, and it
Speaker 3: would be, in my opinion, insane to do.
Speaker 2: The flip side is this.
Speaker 3: And I have circled this all year and I don't
Speaker 3: care how mad netflix would be. It would be such
Speaker 3: a huge opportunity for Kansas City if they earn it
Speaker 3: by having the one locked up, and all they need
Speaker 3: is to win their next two and have Buffalo and
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh both lose once and Buffalo and Pittsburgh are both
Speaker 3: underdogs this weekend, they have an opportunity to do this.
Speaker 3: Play the Rave or play the Texans this coming in
Speaker 3: two weeks, which is the date of that game for
Speaker 3: the Texans game is on Saturday, December twenty first. Okay,
Speaker 3: sit people, for the Steelers game. Have that be the
Speaker 3: week of rest. Two weeks later, play the Broncos like
Speaker 3: your final preseason game or your third preseason game. Play
Speaker 3: your starters for a full half, get everyone up and running,
Speaker 3: sit them in the second half, and then have two
Speaker 3: weeks until your next game, the divisional round game. So
Speaker 3: you get to skip the Steelers on a short week.
Speaker 3: You give yourself an end of season by. You then
Speaker 3: play the Broncos game to stay fresh for the first half,
Speaker 3: get another by, and be in a position where you
Speaker 3: have twenty six days where your team really only has
Speaker 3: to play gosh or a thirty days pardon me, from
Speaker 3: the Texans game to the first playoff game, where you
Speaker 3: really don't have to play a half of football, but
Speaker 3: you can stay sharp. And for a team this old,
Speaker 3: and for a team that has played eight years of
Speaker 3: football in the last seven years of football since Mahomes
Speaker 3: has been there, it would be such an edge.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: If Buffalo loses again this weekend, and I think Pittsburgh's
Speaker 3: going to lose one of their last two and Kansas
Speaker 3: City wins the next two games, they will have from
Speaker 3: a rest perspective, the greatest opportunity in modern NFL history
Speaker 3: from how they can finagle the schedule by earning it
Speaker 3: by going fourteen to one, and if they do that,
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you I don't know how close
Speaker 3: those playoff games will be if every other team is
Speaker 3: coming off a gauntlet and having to have won whoever
Speaker 3: they play in the divisional round, travel to Arrowea after
Speaker 3: having won a playoff game, and then in round three
Speaker 3: that team has just won back to back playoff games
Speaker 3: and has busted their ass down the stretch and Kansas
Speaker 3: City is their chilling And then, by the way, another
Speaker 3: bye week before the Super Bowl, you are going to
Speaker 3: see a fresher, tougher, sharper Chiefs team. Now the flip
Speaker 3: side to that coin is this, if they slip up
Speaker 3: against the Browns or the Texans and then you have
Speaker 3: to play a hard hitting, well coached, desperate Steelers team
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, Christmas afternoon. That's the type of game where
Speaker 3: you could see what happened to the Lions on Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: happened to the Chiefs. Where it's player after player getting
Speaker 3: banged up. That's a worst case scenario, so stakes couldn't
Speaker 3: be higher. The next two weeks for Kansas City but
Speaker 3: the the double up of Buffalo losing a heartbreaker and
Speaker 3: the Chiefs winning the way they did has put him
Speaker 3: in a brilliant position. All right, let's get to the
Speaker 3: next weekend. Yeah, let's get to the next game, Demonse.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that Rams Bills game Bills came came up
Speaker 4: short forty four to forty two. But a lot of
Speaker 4: people probably say that's the game of the year. Out
Speaker 4: of that game, who would you say that you're more
Speaker 4: impressed by, between the Rams or Josh Allen?
Speaker 3: Listen, Josh Allen was excellent, excellent, And even though I
Speaker 3: don't care so much about push push touchdowns and I
Speaker 3: think some of these, Josh Allen the last two weeks
Speaker 3: has done things no quarterbacks ever done. I don't look
Speaker 3: at two weeks ago that he has a receiving touchdown.
Speaker 3: A receiving touchdown is catching a touchdown. Josh Allen threw
Speaker 3: a pass, it got lateral back to him, and because
Speaker 3: of an odd statistical anomaly, he finishes that game with
Speaker 3: one touchdown, seven receiving yards, zero catches. So it's just
Speaker 3: like even the box score doesn't make sense. And I
Speaker 3: don't value tush push touchdowns the way other people do
Speaker 3: with that said, he was their entire offense. So I
Speaker 3: was wildly impressed by him. My concern for the Bills,
Speaker 3: as much as I have liked the Bills all year,
Speaker 3: this was my concern early in the season, and I
Speaker 3: said it, I think teams with elite passing attacks, I
Speaker 3: don't think the Bills back end can hold up. And
Speaker 3: the Rams, when they are healthy and Stafford is rolling,
Speaker 3: that is an elite passing attack. There is no denying it,
Speaker 3: there is no getting around it. And you saw it
Speaker 3: again this weekend. Now, the Rams have a lot of
Speaker 3: work to do to make the playoffs, but because of
Speaker 3: this hot streak, they now sneaky have two paths to
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Demonse, they control their own destiny for the
Speaker 3: division if they went out and they obviously if Seattle stumbles,
Speaker 3: can win the division.
Speaker 2: But they also quietly.
Speaker 3: Have another path that no one's really talking about, which
Speaker 3: is what but if they get the seventh seed because
Speaker 3: the Commanders fall apart. Now, we saw the Commanders trending
Speaker 3: down and then they got the gift of the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 3: and so everyone's like, Okay, the Commanders are fine, maybe,
Speaker 3: and they're coming off a bye, so maybe they're okay.
Speaker 3: But they're at the Saints this weekend, then home for Philly,
Speaker 3: home for the Falcons, out the Cowboys. So I just
Speaker 3: I think the Rams their best path is winning the division,
Speaker 3: but the seventh seed door isn't shut to them.
Speaker 2: If they win the division, though, demanse.
Speaker 3: They are not going to object to that potential super
Speaker 3: Bowl road. They would start with a home game, ostensibly
Speaker 3: against Minnesota. Minnesota's really good, but they played Minnesota this
Speaker 3: year and beat them thirty to twenty. They then, if
Speaker 3: the bracket holds, would be going to Detroit. They played
Speaker 3: Detroit in the playoffs last year, lost by one. They
Speaker 3: played Detroit Week one of this season went to overtime.
Speaker 3: So Detroit's better than the Rams, there's no denying it.
Speaker 3: But they play Stafford plays them tough, and I just
Speaker 3: when you have, in my opinion, the best coach in
Speaker 3: the conference and the best quarterback in the conference.
Speaker 2: If you win your.
Speaker 3: Division and you get at least one home game, you're
Speaker 3: a live playoffs both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, previous experience over the Lions and yeah.
Speaker 3: And the last one coach quarterback combo to win a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl not named Reied Mahomes was McVeigh Stafford.
Speaker 2: So I just I the.
Speaker 3: The Rams win their rolling offensively are just they look unstoppable.
Speaker 3: And as I will say this, as bullish as I
Speaker 3: am on the Chiefs, and as I have been all year,
Speaker 3: the type of team that worries me the most are
Speaker 3: teams with two elite receivers and an elite quarterback to
Speaker 3: go along with it. Now, there's only two teams in
Speaker 3: the league that fit that bill, the Rams and the Bengals.
Speaker 2: The Eagles have.
Speaker 3: Two elite receivers, but I don't think, well, I just
Speaker 3: don't think Jalen is an elite quarterback. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: if you saw the latest drum out of Philly, they
Speaker 3: seem to be trying to light themselves on fire again.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen, I don't put this on Jailen, but
Speaker 3: you've got a bad.
Speaker 2: Game by No.
Speaker 3: But the postgame comments from AJ Brown saying what's the problem?
Speaker 3: He says, a passing game? And then what do you
Speaker 3: guys need to work on passing? And then Brandon Graham
Speaker 3: comes out yesterday and says, Brandon Graham, the leader of
Speaker 3: that team, arguably who tore his triceps, so he's out
Speaker 3: for the year. But still, the veteran leader said on
Speaker 3: the radio yesterday. He has since apologized, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know what happened between jail and and aj They used
Speaker 3: to be friends. Oh so yeah, And now today he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that. But like, you can't put
Speaker 3: that genie back in the bottle, man. But back to
Speaker 3: the point, I was thinking about teams that can give
Speaker 3: the Chiefs the most trouble. Two elite receivers, an elite
Speaker 3: quarterback since Jalen Watson went down. That's the type of
Speaker 3: team the Chiefs don't have, don't have an answer for.
Speaker 2: All Right, so let's.
Speaker 4: Go to sounds like you. I mean, he was gonna
Speaker 4: ask if you regret picking the Eagles over the Rams.
Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like you do.
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean.
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles. It's not a full blown spiral yet.
Speaker 3: I think this weekend's game against Pittsburgh is gonna be
Speaker 3: incredibly instructive. You win this game, you get to twelve
Speaker 3: and two to great win, you can quiet a lot
Speaker 3: of the noise. You lose this game, and immediately the
Speaker 3: narrative is going to be is it last year all
Speaker 3: over again? Even if that's unfair, and you know, people
Speaker 3: did not like their win over Carolina. Carolina has been
Speaker 3: frisky for the last month, not really winning games, but
Speaker 3: playing good teams tough, and this was the closest win
Speaker 3: they had. I mean, Xavier Lagett, you know, had the touchdown. Now,
Speaker 3: to be fair, that would not have won the game.
Speaker 3: That would have put Carolina up one, but there was
Speaker 3: forty five seconds left. Philly would have had plenty of
Speaker 3: time to go back and get in field goal range.
Speaker 3: I'm also going to double down on the MVP thing
Speaker 3: that I do not think it's over, and right now,
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is minus four point fifty or something minus
Speaker 3: five hundred. Saquon's a distant second, and in third places
Speaker 3: Jared Goff. Jared Goff plays Josh Allen and the Bills
Speaker 3: on National.
Speaker 2: TV this weekend.
Speaker 3: Golf right now has more touchdown passes than Allen, a
Speaker 3: better passer rating than Allen, more passing yards than Allen,
Speaker 3: all those things.
Speaker 2: If golf betters in that game.
Speaker 3: Right on a better team, If golf cooks in that
Speaker 3: game and they win, there is going to be so
Speaker 3: I'm real, why isn't Jared Goff the MVP momentum and
Speaker 3: if the Bills lose two in a row and fall
Speaker 3: to ten and four at like there and maybe the
Speaker 3: three seed in the AFC. It's just I don't right
Speaker 3: now Allen is the favorite. Saquon right now would have
Speaker 3: my vote, But right now Allen is the favorite. But
Speaker 3: it is too early to say that debate is over.
Speaker 3: And I think those odds are not giving golf enough credit.
Speaker 4: All Right, Next, so the Bengals destroyed, not destroy. I
Speaker 4: guess they'd beat the Cowboys last night by a touchdown,
Speaker 4: but coming into this year, you probably would have thought
Speaker 4: that was gonna be a great game. But Dallas is
Speaker 4: without Dak obviously, in Cincinnati's defense is sucked all year.
Speaker 4: Which one of these teams do you think returns to
Speaker 4: relevance the fastest?
Speaker 3: Well, the answer is to me obviously Cincinnati, because they
Speaker 3: have the great quarterback. Now they have some structural problems.
Speaker 3: After the game, they talked about keeping Higgins, Chase and
Speaker 3: Joe together. That's just not happening there. Like they can
Speaker 3: keep Chase there, but they're not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: keep T. Higgins there. And I think everyone at this
Speaker 3: point knows that like T. Higgins is going to be
Speaker 3: I don't think they're franchise tagging him again, and he's
Speaker 3: going to be a free agent and they're you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, They're gonna go out and they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to pay Jamar Chase absolute top of market money.
Speaker 3: And so that's like, that's what's gonna happen. I don't
Speaker 3: I I to me, it's not that surprising that this
Speaker 3: is the position they have found themselves in. I shouldn't
Speaker 3: say it's not that surprising. It's the Bengals made a
Speaker 3: decision that I disagreed with before the year in that
Speaker 3: they didn't take care of their business with t Higgins
Speaker 3: early enough and decide to trade him or extend him.
Speaker 3: And then they doubled down on that mistake by not
Speaker 3: giving Jamar an obvious extension last year when he was eligible,
Speaker 3: and that set the to me season off on the
Speaker 3: wrong foot. Now, the offense has been great despite all
Speaker 3: of that. It's been mostly defensive issues. But I think
Speaker 3: the Bengals have some retooling to do. The Cowboys just
Speaker 3: seem stuck and they'll be relevant because they're the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: And that was actually a hell of a performance last night.
Speaker 3: And Micah is a such a massive difference maker just
Speaker 3: when he's out there. Defensively, they're a different team. But
Speaker 3: they are flirting with the idea of bringing my McCarthy back. Obviously,
Speaker 3: either three best players are coming back, Micah cd and
Speaker 3: Dak So I just don't see what major change is
Speaker 3: going to come for the Cowboys for them to all
Speaker 3: of a sudden be a contender. And the Bengals defense
Speaker 3: can vary a ton year to year. The Bengals just
Speaker 3: need an average defense, and they right now would be
Speaker 3: ten and three with an average defense instead of their
Speaker 3: position of five and eight.
Speaker 4: Are you still on the boat off? They have like
Speaker 4: a real playoff chance this year?
Speaker 3: Like do you think, well, so I was doing some
Speaker 3: it's funny you asked that. So the Bengals would have
Speaker 3: to win out, which if you look at their schedule,
Speaker 3: you say, well, that's possible. What they have the rest
Speaker 3: of the way is the Titans, who are terrible, the Browns,
Speaker 3: the the Broncos in a huge game, and then at
Speaker 3: the Steelers in Week eighteen, which maybe is a super
Speaker 3: meaningful game to Pittsburgh or maybe Pittsburgh's resting people. So
Speaker 3: it's possible they went out and get to nine and eight.
Speaker 3: It's not likely, but it's possible. The problem for Cincinnati
Speaker 3: that I came across today when I was doing it is,
Speaker 3: even if they win out, they are what they have
Speaker 3: a very very narrow path, which is they would need
Speaker 3: to win out and have the Broncos lose out, including
Speaker 3: the game to them, then they would get in theoretically,
Speaker 3: But the problem with that is, again we're going in
Speaker 3: the weeds a bit. Is the Broncos if they lose out,
Speaker 3: the Broncos play the Cults this week, and the Cults
Speaker 3: are one of the teams ahead of Cincinnati in the standings. Again,
Speaker 3: this is probably a better article than podcasts, but just
Speaker 3: stick with me for a minute. The Bengals max out
Speaker 3: at nine wins, and the only team they could win
Speaker 3: the tiebreaker with that also maxes out at nine wins
Speaker 3: is the Broncos because they play them head to head.
Speaker 3: But the if the bronc for the Broncos to only
Speaker 3: get to nine wins or fewer, they need to lose out, right,
Speaker 3: so follow me along this path, one of those.
Speaker 2: Losses would come to the Colts. Well, the Colts.
Speaker 3: Would win every tiebreaker with Cincy, and if the Colts
Speaker 3: beat the Broncos. They're at seven wins with the following
Speaker 3: games left Titans, Giants, Jags. So what the Bengals need
Speaker 3: to get into the playoffs is they win all their games,
Speaker 3: the Colts to beat Denver, or it with the Colts
Speaker 3: to beat Denver and then the Colts after beating Denver
Speaker 3: to go one and two against Titans, Giants, Jags. That's
Speaker 3: a really tough putt. Or the other way is for
Speaker 3: the Broncos to beat the Colts and then the Broncos
Speaker 3: to promptly lose every game left on their schedule. So
Speaker 3: I do think that the Bengals oddly are a dangerous
Speaker 3: adjacent team, but they have a two to six conference record,
Speaker 3: which means they're gonna lose every tiebreaker, and they max
Speaker 3: out at nine wins, so they would have to hit
Speaker 3: the following exactas essentially.
Speaker 2: They need to in all four of their games.
Speaker 3: They then need the either the following things to happen,
Speaker 3: the Broncos to beat the Colts and then promptly lose
Speaker 3: all three of their.
Speaker 2: Games, or.
Speaker 3: The Colts to beat the Broncos and the Broncos to
Speaker 3: lose two of their last three and the Colts to
Speaker 3: lose two of their last three. You're just not gonna
Speaker 3: get that, you know what. I mean, all of those
Speaker 3: things to happen.
Speaker 4: If the Bengals lose their next game, you sit Burrow.
Speaker 4: You sit them right.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: If they loose the moment they get eliminated, do you
Speaker 3: sit Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: I mean I think that. So here's a different one.
Speaker 3: That's let's assume Burrow hasn't set Let me ask you
Speaker 3: this question, de Monsey, who are your three AFC Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl QUARTERBACKSFC.
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: That seems like a why are we asking this? But
Speaker 2: here's why.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's in the AFC, Lamar Jackson's in the AFC,
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in the AFC, Joe Burrow's in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Which of those four guys is not getting a Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl seat this year? Do you have, like, what's your
Speaker 3: gut reaction answer.
Speaker 4: If Joe Burrow You're saying this is if Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Sits No, I'm saying, how about this as now?
Speaker 3: If you had to vote today as it is right now,
Speaker 3: if you had to vote today, who's not getting a
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl spot in the AFC of those four quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't know. They go back and look, I
Speaker 4: mean Burrow's obviously you've been carrying that tea. Mahomes go ahead,
Speaker 4: So I mean, has Lamar not had a better season
Speaker 4: like statistic wise, then I don't.
Speaker 3: I think I think it would come down to Burrow
Speaker 3: or Mahomes. I think Lamar is kind of locked because
Speaker 3: his numbers are insane. Josh feels locked because he might
Speaker 3: win the damn League MVP.
Speaker 2: So then you have Burrow or Mahomes.
Speaker 3: Burrow who has the best numbers of any quarterback in football,
Speaker 3: but his team is five and eight. Mahomes whose numbers
Speaker 3: are mediocre. But every single person who's watched the NFL
Speaker 3: this year, if they were being honest and you ask
Speaker 3: them this question, Hey, the Chiefs who are twelve and
Speaker 3: one and have the second best Super Bowl odds, but
Speaker 3: really they're the favorites to win the Super Bowl? What
Speaker 3: would their record with any other quarterback? What do we
Speaker 3: think seven and six like this Chiefs team that has
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's.
Speaker 3: A really weird spot of and one of those guys
Speaker 3: is not going to be a Pro bowler. Now, if
Speaker 3: the Bengals were to do what you're not suggesting but
Speaker 3: you know asking, which is if they sit Burrow, then
Speaker 3: it becomes an easier discussion. But I don't know who
Speaker 3: gets left out. Honest to God, it can't be Lamar.
Speaker 3: You can't put in Burrow over Lamar.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 3: Like you can put them both in, but Lamar. They've
Speaker 3: played twice, they both played great in both games. Lamar's
Speaker 3: won both his team's better, their numbers are equivalent. He's
Speaker 3: got to be there. Josh Allen is the overwhelming favorite
Speaker 3: win League MVP, so he's in there.
Speaker 2: And then you have a Borrow Mahomes discussion, which is
Speaker 2: an interesting one. I am here to tell you.
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that I want nothing more
Speaker 3: than for the second straight year, the Chiefs to be
Speaker 3: shut out from all of the NFL awards, even like
Speaker 3: honors like the you know, they announce the NFL honors
Speaker 3: ceremony like Super Bowl week or the week before, and
Speaker 3: they announced the finalists and last year Coach of the Year,
Speaker 3: no GM of the Year, no Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 3: no MVP, no like they got shut out for everything.
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen again, by the way, Mahomes obviously is
Speaker 3: not gonna be MVP finalists. They're gonna screw Chris Jones
Speaker 3: on being a Defensive Player of the Year finalist. Andy
Speaker 3: Reid's not even top seven or eight and Coach of
Speaker 3: the year odds. If all that happens and they announce
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl rosters, a Pro Bowl and for the
Speaker 3: first time in his career, Patrick Mahomes is not a
Speaker 3: Pro bowler, oh my god. They might beat everyone by
Speaker 3: thirty in the playoffs. I really hope it happens. All right,
Speaker 3: let's talk a bit about quarterback development after the break,
Speaker 3: Take quick break, come back?
Speaker 2: What's right? All right?
Speaker 3: Welcome back in What's right? With nick right demands. Let's
Speaker 3: get to our last top before we go to public defender.
Speaker 4: So we got the Lions, Seahawks, Bucks, Vikings, and Steelers.
Speaker 4: All those teams right now are currently playoff playoffs teams,
Speaker 4: but they all got quarterbacks that are previously scrapped from
Speaker 4: their last teams. Do you think that we're witnessing a
Speaker 4: shift in the NFL? Is not less or is it
Speaker 4: less detrimental to have a franchise quarterback than a great coach?
Speaker 2: Well? What I here's what I think. I think that
Speaker 2: in the NFC.
Speaker 3: You can survive make a Super Bowl even without a
Speaker 3: great quarterback. We see it happen all the time. The
Speaker 3: Niners made a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy, the Eagles
Speaker 3: made one with Jalen Hurts. The Eagles made one with
Speaker 3: Nick Foles, the Niners made one with Jimmy Garoppolo. The
Speaker 3: only great quarterback who'd made a Super Bowl in the
Speaker 3: NFC the last few years is Stafford and Brady obviously,
Speaker 3: and Stafford, by the way, wasn't really held in this
Speaker 3: high of a regard until the Rams tenure in the
Speaker 3: eight So, like people are like, do you take the
Speaker 3: Vikings seriously? My answer to that question is yes, because
Speaker 3: they're in the NFC. And listen, Darnold's played great. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's great, but he has played great. I
Speaker 3: give him credit. But all of your historically great or
Speaker 3: unicorn quarterbacks are in the other conference. Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Burrow,
Speaker 3: They're all there, and so you just feel like in
Speaker 3: the AFC, you've got to have one of those guys.
Speaker 3: In the NFC when it's like you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: go through Golf or Jailing or Donald, We'll see if
Speaker 3: Jordan Love can become that guy he hasn't yet, or
Speaker 3: Baker or Geno. There's just a clearer path now those
Speaker 3: teams might be more well rounded. So that is like
Speaker 3: I listen, Obviously, great coaches are undervalued. But the other
Speaker 3: piece of it is what those teams have been able
Speaker 3: to do is pay B B plus A minus players
Speaker 3: all over their team because their quarterback instead of making
Speaker 3: sixty millions, making thirty or on the rookie scale, whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is, that's a huge edge.
Speaker 3: Nothing is as big of an edge as the edge
Speaker 3: you get from having one.
Speaker 2: Of those truly truly great quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: The where you get screwed is if you find yourself
Speaker 3: in the position the Cowboys or at this point the
Speaker 3: Cardinals or those teams have, which is you have a
Speaker 3: fine quarterback who you pay like he's one of those guys.
Speaker 3: And so I this is not, you know, a unique
Speaker 3: opinion or new ground. This is just a different version
Speaker 3: of the best way to win a championship as a
Speaker 3: quarterback on the rookie pay scale. But the kind of
Speaker 3: middle ground now is the veteran quarterback that makes more
Speaker 3: than a rookie but way less than a superstar who
Speaker 3: has a lot of experience who found a system that
Speaker 3: fits him, like Gino, like Baker, like it looks like
Speaker 3: we found with Donald And so that's the the Lions,
Speaker 3: I guess with golf would fall into that as well.
Speaker 3: But golf, you know, has been paid top of market twice.
Speaker 3: Now golf got paid top of market by the Rams
Speaker 3: and then the Lions just paid them top of market again.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the game. Let's go to
Speaker 2: public defender.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, First off, a council. It seems to exclusively
Speaker 4: represent teams that can only be bright Shawn by less
Speaker 4: than a touchdown. A counselor defend your client, the Eagles
Speaker 4: and their Super Bowl chances.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, the Eagles super Bowl hopes are.
Speaker 2: It's very straightforward.
Speaker 3: One is, despite all of the drama surrounding the team,
Speaker 3: it is also totally on the board that they end
Speaker 3: up as the number one seed in the NFC and
Speaker 3: that the Super Bowl goes through the link in January,
Speaker 3: which is a brutal spot for the rest of the conference.
Speaker 3: All that they need is for the Lions to trip
Speaker 3: up against Buffalo and then they're tied in the lost
Speaker 3: column with Philly and it's a race to the end.
Speaker 2: Even if that does not happen. The Eagles path right
Speaker 2: now would be the two seed hosting a Washington team
Speaker 2: that you know they can beat, as they have already
Speaker 2: beaten earlier this year, and they're gonna get another bite
Speaker 2: at them later. And then.
Speaker 3: If they get to that place, you feel like so
Speaker 3: many of the potential bad vibes that are percolating right
Speaker 3: now go away. They have arguably the best defense in
Speaker 3: the whole conference, inarguably the best running back in the
Speaker 3: whole conference. They are incredibly live to win the super
Speaker 3: Bowl or to get to the super Bowl, to win
Speaker 3: the conference. But there is no denying that. Right now,
Speaker 3: I put the problems on I'm gonna take off my
Speaker 3: public defender at for a moment and now just talk
Speaker 3: about the Eagles. I put the problems on AJ Brown,
Speaker 3: And listen, Jalen Hurts has not played well. AJ Brown's
Speaker 3: a great player. But when you're a great player who
Speaker 3: not only has been paid, but has been paid twice,
Speaker 3: if your team's winning, your job is to not cause
Speaker 3: a problem.
Speaker 2: And AJ Brown was a first round pick, got that money.
Speaker 3: The Eagles paid him a ton of money when they
Speaker 3: traded for him. And this off season preemptively gave him
Speaker 3: another extension. So AJ Brown is on his third big contract,
Speaker 3: and the fact that and they're winning, and the fact
Speaker 3: that he has decided now is the time to after
Speaker 3: a win cause a problem I think is really abhorrent
Speaker 3: behavior by your captain. Like there's just I I hate it.
Speaker 3: And I understand we let wide receivers get away with
Speaker 3: a lot more because the diva wide receiver thing. But
Speaker 3: this is bad, man, Like you're eleven and two, Saquon,
Speaker 3: Like the whole narrative from within the locker room is man.
Speaker 3: You guys disrespected our defense. Look at him now, Saquon
Speaker 3: is gonna break the rushing record. It should be nothing
Speaker 3: but good vibes. And AJ Brown started a fire that
Speaker 3: then Brandon Graham, you know, added Kerosene too, So that's
Speaker 3: not good. And so I do think the Eagles can
Speaker 3: still make the super Bowl. But I don't trust Siriani
Speaker 3: to fix this, and I don't know why AJ Brown
Speaker 3: started this problem.
Speaker 4: All right, next, All right, amidst another giant's loss, a
Speaker 4: plane floor of MetLife Stadium with a vander reading, mister
Speaker 4: mahra enough, please fix this dumpster fire. After the game,
Speaker 4: the Elak Neighbors was asked about it and said, I
Speaker 4: ain't paid for the plane. That was exactly what you
Speaker 4: would say if you paid for the plane. Counselor defend
Speaker 4: your client, the number one suspect, Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3: Listen, Obviously Milik Neighbors didn't pay for the plane.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't even think he needs a lot of defense there.
Speaker 3: Nobody thinks he actually paid for the plane. I'm going
Speaker 3: to once again take off my public defender hat for
Speaker 3: a moment and talk about another devil wide receiver, Mylik Neighbors.
Speaker 3: You're too young and have not accomplished enough to be
Speaker 3: this much of.
Speaker 2: A pain in the ass.
Speaker 3: And there's been multiple times this season where you have
Speaker 3: made it clear it ain't my fault.
Speaker 2: Buddy.
Speaker 3: We all know it's not your fault. We all know
Speaker 3: you're one of the best players on the team.
Speaker 2: But I do not I do not think that.
Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors has earned the sweat equity to do the
Speaker 3: post game malcontent stuff the way he's already doing it.
Speaker 3: And maybe it's because I turned forty, maybe I'm becoming
Speaker 3: more curmudgeonly, But the the amount of young receivers that
Speaker 3: are just an instant pain in the ass. I think
Speaker 3: is not ideal and is not does not necessarily foster winning.
Speaker 3: And again, I imagine Malik is incredibly frustrated, and he
Speaker 3: is an awesome player. He's been the best of the
Speaker 3: rookie wide receivers. He's been better than Marvin Harrison, He's
Speaker 3: been better than Rome, and that's despite being in the
Speaker 3: worst quarterbacking situation. Try to make it through your first
Speaker 3: season before you're like, I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 3: get the ball to we were down thirty nothing, I
Speaker 3: ain't paid for the plane. Like, try, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: be the best player on a team, try.
Speaker 2: To exhibit some.
Speaker 3: Leadership qualities. I don't think that's unfair. I think that's
Speaker 3: part of being a professional. Demant'sy, I hear I got
Speaker 3: a new client.
Speaker 4: Well, your client League Neighbors is going to jail. Now
Speaker 4: you just got another client to defend Divo wide receivers
Speaker 4: as a whole.
Speaker 3: Well, this is actually despite everything I just said, this
Speaker 3: is actually very easy. Which is wide receiver is the
Speaker 3: only position in all of sports where, even if you
Speaker 3: play perfectly, you're a one hundred out of one hundred
Speaker 3: in every category. Your success is thoroughly dependent on other people.
Speaker 3: There is and I said, all of sports, but I
Speaker 3: can just keep it to football. There is not another
Speaker 3: position on the football field that doesn't have the opportunity
Speaker 3: to just singular dominate in individually, independent of everyone else.
Speaker 2: Every spot on.
Speaker 3: Defense can do it. If safety can come down, make
Speaker 3: a big hit. Corners can take away side of the
Speaker 3: field or make a pick. Pats rushers run stoppers can
Speaker 3: beat their block and go do it. Offensive linemen you
Speaker 3: can pancake a guy again and again and again. Obviously,
Speaker 3: running back can go make somebody miss. Quarterback as the
Speaker 3: whole game in his hands. Wide receiver can do exactly
Speaker 3: what you've asked, run his route exactly seven yards, lose
Speaker 3: the corner, be wide open, and never get the ball
Speaker 3: or get missed. And when you play that position for
Speaker 3: your whole life growing up, when that happens, then what
Speaker 3: that can engender or create is some selfishness and some
Speaker 3: frustration that then once you get to the top of
Speaker 3: the mountain, the NFL can really blossom. So it is
Speaker 3: not a coincidence that the position that has the most
Speaker 3: divas is the dependent position, and so that is it's
Speaker 3: it is nurture more than nature in this regard. These
Speaker 3: these receivers are not born divas. They are developed into
Speaker 3: them by football and what it does to them. And
Speaker 3: so it's society's fault, your honor. Now we'll take off
Speaker 3: my public defender. With all that said, that's what the
Speaker 3: money's for, grow up kids like they. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: what the money's for. All right, last one.
Speaker 4: Very well said. Arguably the greatest coach of all time,
Speaker 4: or so we thought, Bill Belichick's and able to find
Speaker 4: work this past year. Now he's reportedly considering coaching historic
Speaker 4: basketball school. You and see a counselor to fit the
Speaker 4: legacy of your client, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: Uh, your honor, I recuse myself from this case because
Speaker 3: I find it so outrageous and embarrassing that my client
Speaker 3: is publicly dating a woman forty five years younger than him.
Speaker 2: And I can't believe.
Speaker 3: That the media, the mainstream media, feels like this is
Speaker 3: out of bounds to discuss. It's not, and it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's not out of bounds. They've gone Instagram public. He's
Speaker 3: out there on Halloween dressing up like a fisherman. She's
Speaker 3: dressing up like a Mermaid. Listen, if someone who is
Speaker 3: a public figure gets caught by the media at dinner
Speaker 3: with someone pictures through the you know, restaurant window, and
Speaker 3: they and and they never do anything public about it,
Speaker 3: then I would say that's their private life.
Speaker 2: Leave them alone.
Speaker 3: When you decide as a public person to publicly be
Speaker 3: in a relationship with someone I think born in the
Speaker 3: two thousands, or if not in the two thousands, orn
Speaker 3: you know, in the what what'd you.
Speaker 4: Say you're getting.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting supposed to.
Speaker 3: It's not personal life. It's not as personally I'm telling
Speaker 3: you right now. If I ran an NFL team and
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I'm figuring out who is going to
Speaker 3: be the head coach of my team, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's Mike Vrabel, married kids, everyone things in line. Oh
Speaker 3: there's coordinator X single, you know, don't really know his situation.
Speaker 3: Oh here's this person divorced, don't really know his situation.
Speaker 3: Here's a man who's seventy two years old dating a
Speaker 3: college student grad student. I'm going to say, I'm worried
Speaker 3: he might be going through some things that's in bounds.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: That's not an unfairer and I think Belichick's greatest coach ever,
Speaker 3: that's not unfair, and.
Speaker 2: Him doing it publicly.
Speaker 3: Is weird. It's just weird. And I don't think it's
Speaker 3: helping his coaching prospects.
Speaker 4: What Yeah, I do think it's a It is a
Speaker 4: little bit of a weird time to spent, like if
Speaker 4: you're going for an NFL team, but to then also
Speaker 4: trying to go back and coach at a college when
Speaker 4: you're currently doing that.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole little old to mom'sday.
Speaker 3: This is weird because you're my son and I'm married
Speaker 3: to your mom, so you have to put your.
Speaker 2: Own in a different position.
Speaker 3: So don't even pick me. Let's not even do mean,
Speaker 3: And I don't want to do what any of my
Speaker 3: colleagues because they're married as well. I'll just do myself.
Speaker 3: I'm forty. I'm forty. If I was dating a twenty
Speaker 3: four year old, people would roll their eyes. If if
Speaker 3: Belichick is my you know, almost almost to the year,
Speaker 3: you know, who's almost the exact same age as Belichick, Papa,
Speaker 3: my dad. If my dad was dating someone your age, we'd.
Speaker 2: Be like.
Speaker 3: We we'd have we'd have concerns. Yeah, and I'm just
Speaker 3: saying Belichick, I don't think it's helping his coaching career,
Speaker 3: like his ability to land one of these jobs. And
Speaker 3: I do think it's odd, and I don't I try
Speaker 3: to be very fair to people that private life is private.
Speaker 2: This is not private.
Speaker 3: This has been super public to the point to where
Speaker 3: we know how they met. I don't know how Andy
Speaker 3: Reid met his wife. I know Belichick and her were
Speaker 3: sitting next to each other on a plane and he
Speaker 3: helped her with her homework or something like. I know
Speaker 3: that like that that, and I know that they took
Speaker 3: Instagram pictures where he was a fisherman and she was
Speaker 3: a mermaid for Halloween. I know that happened, and so
Speaker 3: I mean, that is what it is. And maybe people
Speaker 3: will get mad at me for this. Maybe this will
Speaker 3: get aggregated.
Speaker 2: I stand by all of it. It would.
Speaker 4: It's nobody's talking about.
Speaker 3: Nobody is talking about and why if it's so weird
Speaker 3: that people are afraid to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Like he's seventy two.
Speaker 3: If his girlfriend was forty two, it'd be noteworthy. That'd
Speaker 3: be noteworthy.
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't forty two, all right?
Speaker 4: Forty two is different like the twenty four it would
Speaker 4: be noteworthy.
Speaker 3: If you're dating someone thirty years younger than you, it's noteworthy.
Speaker 3: It's not bad, but it's noteworthy. It's certainly if I
Speaker 3: were to, if you were to, if I were to be, like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's play a game.
Speaker 2: If none of this had happened. Let's play a game.
Speaker 3: Guess the age within a five year band of such
Speaker 3: and such seventy two year old's girlfriend. How many guesses
Speaker 3: does it take before you get to early forties, much
Speaker 3: less mid twenties. Like, I think ninety is more likely
Speaker 3: than twenty five. So I just I think, like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, it's just weird. Quick break, right back, What's right?
Speaker 3: Welcome back in What's right?
Speaker 2: With Nick? Right?
Speaker 3: All right, Demante, Let's get some listener questions Summer from
Speaker 3: last week because we didn't have time for him on
Speaker 3: Thursday because Danny Parkins wouldn't stop talking. By the way,
Speaker 3: Danny Parkins one and two on his picks this week,
Speaker 3: I'm officially just one pick behind him. We had another
Speaker 3: winning week on this show three and two on this
Speaker 3: show two and one on TV. The teaser gotcha, Sorry, pal, oh.
Speaker 4: But that's how we'll touch I've got some thoughts on that, right,
Speaker 4: go ahead? So simpley, hey, Nick, which first round matchup
Speaker 4: would be better than a buy this year?
Speaker 3: Well, there isn't one. There is no super soft first
Speaker 3: round matchup. Theoretically, if the Colts and Anthony Richardson get in,
Speaker 3: that would be you know, that's a pretty decent seventh spot.
Speaker 3: But the Broncos with Sean Payton, even with rookie bo Nicks,
Speaker 3: is not a super soft spot. And obviously the Chargers
Speaker 3: are not, and the Ravens or not or the Steelers
Speaker 3: if they fall. So I don't think there is one.
Speaker 3: Whoever is the two? Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I guess like come that time, they're gonna
Speaker 4: have a lot of rest if that that dream scenario happens.
Speaker 4: But with the way that they're playing teams, what situation
Speaker 4: is better than a buy?
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Oh? So? Like basically like so like with how close
Speaker 4: that they're playing teams like in the playoffs, like I
Speaker 4: just think they you know, given that they.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, oh yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, they there there.
Speaker 4: Is They're gonna play everybody tight. But with that rest
Speaker 4: situation different.
Speaker 3: Listen, And I wasn't even looking at that as the
Speaker 3: Chiefs question, because I don't think the Chiefs are gonna
Speaker 3: be the.
Speaker 2: Two seed like they are.
Speaker 3: They're two games clear of Buffalo, you know the and
Speaker 3: so I'm just saying, whoever is the two seed, that
Speaker 3: Round one in both conferences is not going to be easy.
Speaker 3: In the NFC, It'll either be probably Washington, theoretically Green
Speaker 3: Bay or the Rams like none of those are easy spots,
Speaker 3: or maybe the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Those aren't easy games, all right.
Speaker 4: Next Marcus Nick, Nick, you do think limiting sacks should
Speaker 4: be brought up more in the quarterback convos And do
Speaker 4: you agree if sacks are more of a QB stat
Speaker 4: than an old line stat like who gets more credit
Speaker 4: in Buffalo, Alan or the line?
Speaker 3: Well asn't I think the Bills offensive line has been
Speaker 3: one of the more underrated units in the league this year,
Speaker 3: but Alan does get credit. I think this is I
Speaker 3: do think limiting sacks should be brought up in the
Speaker 3: quarterbacking conversation, and I do think it's a skill. I
Speaker 3: also think that situationally, you've got it. This is one
Speaker 3: of those things you really got to watch the games,
Speaker 3: like how many of the sacks are instant pressure? Nothing
Speaker 3: you could do and how many of it is the
Speaker 3: quarterback running himself into sacks.
Speaker 2: So I'll use the most sacked quarterback in the league
Speaker 2: this year, Caleb.
Speaker 3: Caleb's offensive line has been brutal and a lot of
Speaker 3: those sacks are not on him, but feels like about
Speaker 3: a third of them are maybe a quarter of him
Speaker 3: that he has held onto the ball too long, that
Speaker 3: he has tried and so right, so I do think
Speaker 3: it's a rich tapestry, if you will. But yes, Alan,
Speaker 3: not turning the ball over and not taking sacks. Sacks
Speaker 3: from a win percentage perspective are like a third is
Speaker 3: damaging as a turnover depending on the spot you take them,
Speaker 3: so like they're really bad to take and so that
Speaker 3: is noteworthy.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Next, only, Nick, you mentioned you listen to sports podcasts
Speaker 4: to keep up with the news and analysis. Can you
Speaker 4: tell us your favorites?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I mean I think during the NFL season,
Speaker 3: NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal and that crew is a
Speaker 3: nop pun intended a daily listen for me.
Speaker 2: I love it. I think it is.
Speaker 3: I think it is as good of a source NFL.
Speaker 3: NFL Daily is what it's called, just called in NFL Daily,
Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal is the host. I think that's outstanding. I
Speaker 3: like the and in fact, there's a long list that
Speaker 3: I could give. But if I give a long list
Speaker 3: and I don't include people, then it's like I forgot
Speaker 3: or I snubbed him, whatever. So instead of that, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna give one. I think NFL Daily with Greg
Speaker 3: Rosenthal this time of the year is a must listen.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Lewis's question.
Speaker 4: Demant Lewis, who is your favorite player in the NBA
Speaker 4: and NFL? Behind Lebron and any player on the Chiefs?
Speaker 3: My favorite player in the NBA and NFL. No Chief
Speaker 3: and not Lebron. It's a really good question.
Speaker 4: Who Lamar?
Speaker 2: No that it wouldn't be Lamar for me. I don't
Speaker 2: hate Lamar, but it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I like Joe Burrow a lot, uh, and I have
Speaker 3: massive respect for Burrow. I love Luca. Obviously, the answer
Speaker 3: is probably Luca. Uh. I'm trying to think if there's
Speaker 3: one an obvious person that I'm forgetting, but I do
Speaker 3: love Baker. Baker's up there as well. All right, let's
Speaker 3: go to Grayson.
Speaker 4: Grayson if Bills, If Bills lose this week and Ravens
Speaker 4: went out, why isn't Lamar MVP? He's better in every
Speaker 4: single stat than Allen and would have one more loss
Speaker 4: with a significantly harder schedule.
Speaker 3: Well, and they whooped him, right, they beat him thirty
Speaker 3: five to ten.
Speaker 2: Would be the other piece of that.
Speaker 3: I think the answer is, this award is kind of
Speaker 3: like the narratives can get away from you, and Lamar's
Speaker 3: MVP narrative ended and right or wrong, I don't think
Speaker 3: he's gonna recapture it. Like I think they would have
Speaker 3: to win out, win the division, the Bills stumble, like
Speaker 3: a lot of things would have to happen. What I
Speaker 3: do think is the other piece that is fair is
Speaker 3: I do think people look at Lamar having Derrick Henry
Speaker 3: as far more significant than anything Josh Allen has. But
Speaker 3: Lamar should be in the conversation for regular season MVP.
Speaker 3: There's no there's no question, Like, he.
Speaker 4: Just had a buye. He's about the played in New
Speaker 4: York coming up, right, So it's a little bit of
Speaker 4: the lack of game.
Speaker 3: Right, they had lost and he had a bye, and
Speaker 3: so they had lost anything two of their last three,
Speaker 3: so that hurt him a lot obviously, Right now, if
Speaker 3: I if I had a ballot, because I don't want
Speaker 3: it to just be a quarterback award. I think my
Speaker 3: ballot right now would be Sakwan one, Josh Towo, TJ
Speaker 3: Watt three, Lamar four and because it'd be super fun,
Speaker 3: Penay Seul five because I think he's the best player
Speaker 3: on the Lions and kind of encapsulates who they are
Speaker 3: and they're having such a great year. That would be
Speaker 3: my ballot at the moment.
Speaker 2: All Right, I gotta go do Colin. Great job today
Speaker 2: to Monday.
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