1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and now he Armstrong and Jetty. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Well, some countries have a president, some have a prime minister, 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: some have a king, some have a dictator. Iran had 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: a Supreme leader or Ayatola since nineteen seventy nine. They 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: had two of them. No one died in what eighty something, 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: and then this guy that got obliterated Saturday had been 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: in charge for dang near forty years. He was very old, 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: and so Iran currently does not have a supreme leader. Well, 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: they got together today to vote, tried to vote in secret. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Eighty eight members of whatever council they have got together 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: to pick a new supreme leader. Apparently our CIA or 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: Israel knew where they were, and we hit that building 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: with so many bombs. There's nothing there but tiny rock. 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: So they are all dead. So as I saw somebody 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: on Twitter say, when they're choosing a pope, you look 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: for white smoke. They've chosen a pope. In this case, 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: you see black smoke. There ain't going to be no 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: supreme leader. They have not chosen the Supreme Leader. Because 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: of the black smoke. 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeas David Berg put it on X, you vote is 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: deadlocked at zero. They're down to like dog catchers in 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: the assistant superintendent of Parks. I would imagine somebody at. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: This point he's got to raise their hands say, uh, 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: I make a motion to vote by mail. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: Second, can we text each other? No, No, We've got 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: to get together at the civic center. 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I ain't coming. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, speaking of leadership, President Donald J. Trump is getting 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: set to meet with Friedrich Meritz of Germany to discuss 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: the whole situation here. 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: We'll start with sixty five Michael. 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: We'll obviously be talking a little bit about Uran today, 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: and he's been helping us out. We've been very nice, actually, 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: and that is coming along as you see very well. 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: They have no navy, it's been knocked out. They have 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: no air force has been knocked out, they have no 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: air detection that's been knocked out, their radar has been 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: knocked out, and just about everything's been knocked out. 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: But what is it germanly there, what's does he have 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: to say? 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: We are on the same page in terms of getting 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: this terrible regime in Tehran away, and we will talk 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: about the day after what will happen then if they are. 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: Out, Speaking of which, the assembled press was able to 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: ask some questions of the parsident, and I don't think 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: the reporters included in this clip, but he asks, you know, 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: we've talked about the best case. 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: What's the worst case? 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: I guess the worst case would be we do this 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: and then somebody takes over who's as bad as the 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: previous person, right, that could happen. We don't want that 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: to happen. It would probably be the worst. You go 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: through this and then in five years you realize you 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: put somebody in who was no better. So we'd like 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: to see somebody in there that's gonna bring it back 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: for the people, and we'll see what happens with the people. 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: You know, they have their chance, and we've said. 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Don't do it yet. 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: If you're going to go out and protest, don't do 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: it yet. It's very dangerous out there. A lot of 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: bombs are being dropped. 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: And then the follow up to the question of who's 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: going to take over, you have someone in mind right now? 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 5: If you've said all the people you didn't have in 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: mind and take it out. 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: Well, most of the people we had in mind are dead. 69 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: So you know we had some in mind from that 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: group that is dead, and now we have another group 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: they may be dead also based on reports. So I 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: guess you have a third wave of coming and pretty 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: sure we're not going to know anybody. 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta think that's already true. If you've got 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: that first four you and now this near ninety, you 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: gotta be down to people you don't you don't have 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: any info on. 78 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: Well, there might be like a police chief of a 79 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: medium sized suburb of Tehran, who's now the highest ranked 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: living official. Is he gonna announce you know what? I'm 81 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: looking around here as nobody else. I Chief Jones am 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: now the president of. 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: Iran, the librarian in Tehran Heights. Yeah, you're supreme leader. 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm what great? You know? 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: One more clip from Trump, This is pretty good sixty 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: nine Michael. 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Brand New ran Speccan, you got it. 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm excited about this. 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking in I don't see it. 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: Like if I didn't do this. Guys like Schumer, who 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: are losers, the Democrats losers, that's why they're not here. 92 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Guys like Schumer. 93 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: Would say, well, you should have done this in other words, 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 4: if I did it, it's so good. 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: If I didn't do. 96 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 4: It, they would have said the opposite, that you should 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: have done this. But most people feel I'll tell you what, 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: I have never had more compliments on something I did. 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: People felt as something that had to be done. So 100 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: if we had a little high oil prices for a 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: little while, but as soon as this ends, those prices 102 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: are going to drop, I believe, lower than even before. 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: When monocolm began, decided as Prime Minister of Israel to 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: hit the nuclear facility in Iraq. It was condemned by 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: the world, including by the United States. Then years later, 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: when things calmed down, we gave him the Presidential Medal 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: of Freedom. Yeah for doing that. I think, I think 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: this will go that direction. 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: At what point though? 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: So the problem that the thing that happened in Iraq 111 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: was with deep bathification, where we just we there was 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: nobody in charge of anything. You had garbage piling up 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: on the streets, there was nobody to keep the electricity on, 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: nobody was watching the bank. People just broke into the 115 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: banks and stole all the money. I mean, it just 116 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: was a complete anarchy and chaos. So who's running Iran 117 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: right now, who's keeping even just a little bit of 118 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: law and order and the lights on and the bank's 119 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: locked and all that sort of stuff. 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question. 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: It's like debathification, but it's not an administrative move. It's 122 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: a bombs falling from. 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: The sky move. 124 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: And you know, in chaos, in a vacuum, what is 125 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: rewarded most richly is viciousness. Oh yeah, cohesion and viciousness, 126 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: which sounds to me like a fundamentalist Islamic sect unless 127 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: the the the people of Iran just the normal, you know, 128 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: I just want to make a living and rais of family. 129 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: Secular people of Iran can somehow get enough arms to 130 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: fend them off and win the day because they have much, much, 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: much greater numbers. 132 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: But that's not the question in chaos. 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't have guns as far as I know, right, 134 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: they got to get some. They can't take on the 135 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard or whatever Muslim extremist group that tries to 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: take over because they don't all have guns like we 137 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: have in the United States. 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: And somebody says, hey, all right, the weapons depot is unguarded, 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: let's go get a bunch of weapons. I'm thinking, how 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: about you go onto a military base right now and 141 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: get those weapons. I'm staying here in my apartment. 142 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Now. Where this ends. 143 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: Nobody knows, and as Trump said, it could end up worse. 144 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: We don't want that. But doing nothing was no longer tenable, 145 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: he would tell you, and I think he was probably right. 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: Man. 147 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: If you've ever read this stuff about Baghdad in those 148 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: early days, within a couple of days, I mean, people 149 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: had broken into the power plant and stolen all the 150 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: copper wire out of it and everything like that, so 151 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: you couldn't get the lights on, I mean, and things 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: fell apart really really fast. 153 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: You walked through water museums and people just grabbing unbelieved, 154 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: priceless antiquity. 155 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. It's the earliest ever known. What's it? 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: So I'm taking this home, put it on my mantle. Unbelievable. 157 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: So I don't quite understand how that's not happening in 158 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Turan right now. What's keeping everything? What's keeping order? Is 159 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: there any order? I don't actually know that. 160 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Here's a philosophical question for you. 161 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: What would be an acceptable timeline for a reasonable cooperative 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: regime to take form? Realistically? If you told me ten years, 163 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: that would be a realistic goal. 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so what about the you know, the Colon Powell, 165 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: the pottery barn rules, the if you break it, you 166 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: bought it. Why I've never quite understood that. So I 167 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: mean I can under I can make an ethical or 168 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: moral argument, I guess. But we broke the government. So 169 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: now we're just we're done. We took them all out, 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: good luck, and then they just fight it out, I guess, right, 171 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: or hopefully don't fight it out. You don't have to 172 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: fight out. You could have somebody say I'll be a 173 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: president until we have an election. Everybody thinks Jim is 174 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: a good guy, and you let him be president until 175 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: you have an election, and you keep things running, you 176 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: keep the schools open, in the. 177 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: Water flowing in everything. Old man pavlavi uh the son 178 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: of the Shah. I mean, he is an obvious figurehead, 179 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: but he's going to have to have goons. And who 180 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: are those goons? Is it an international quote unquote peacekeeping force? 181 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: Is it the United States Marine Corps? Is it the 182 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: vestiges of the Iranian army? But if they decide, you 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: know what, I don't like the guy so much. You got, 184 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know three thousand guys with guns 185 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: and you decide, no, I don't like pavlobby at all. 186 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: What happens then it's going to be violent and terrible. 187 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: Probably well Iraq fell apart or ask as the residence 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: of Toronto, how violent and terrible it was under the 189 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: old guys? 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Pretty thing is the answer. 191 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: Iraq fell apart and you ended up with al Qaeda 192 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: in Iraq and then ISIS, and that that was an 193 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: actual threat to the United States, especially as close to 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: nine to eleven as it was. We felt like, so 195 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: we had to do something. 196 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Do we need to be in. 197 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Charge of Iran? Or can we just let them all 198 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: figure it out? Even with tremendous bloodshed? Is that our fault? 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: They've had tremendous bloodshed. Thirty thousand innocent civilians got murdered 200 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: on the street just a month. 201 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Ago, right, right? No easy answers. 202 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: No, and not doing anything is not an easy answer. 203 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: No, that's the lazy answer. 204 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: That's the it's really easy to keep you from having 205 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: to deal with actual problems answer. 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Right, If you never do anything, you never answer for 207 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: having done something. 208 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I get that. 209 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: That's kind of the that's the Congress is somebody needs 210 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: to translate that into Latin and make it the motto 211 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: of Congress. 212 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: So one of the nothing and be condemned for nothing. 213 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I no kidding. 214 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: One of the conversations of the day is was this 215 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: ineminent threat. Marco has got his stance on it. Maybe 216 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: we could play that forty among other things coming up, 217 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty. 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: The House is set to vote and the War Powers 219 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: resolution on Thursday. 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 7: This coming Thursday, Thursday, Monday, Thursday. You're gonna vote Thursday. 221 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 7: The war already fucking happened. 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I swear to God. 223 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: The United States Congress is like male nipples. Why why 224 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 7: do you exist? 225 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: What do you do? 226 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: Nothing? 227 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: You do nothing? 228 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 7: You should sit there waiting for angels to grab you 229 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 7: when we die. 230 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: So wow, that's an interesting view of the afterlife. Ow 231 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: ow ow you know, have aniscale on air or something. 232 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: You're going to lift me up to have and buy 233 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: my nipples. 234 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, so it's a Republican controlled Congress. Is that's why 235 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: they're putting it off so they don't have to deal 236 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: with it. 237 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea or is that why they're rushing 238 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: it to the floor to a rushing President war. 239 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: So Daily Show last night, which was pretty funny, but 240 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: he kept referring to it as a war of choice. 241 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: So people that are criticizing this are calling it a 242 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: war of choice are a military analyst. Jeff mccauslin this 243 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: morning earlier called it a war of choice on our 244 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: show and denying that there is an imminent threat, which 245 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: is what the administration is saying, is that there is 246 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: an in threat. So it's not a war of choice. 247 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: The whole war of choice thing is, you know, kind 248 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: of complicated. 249 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: It is very eigeh of the beholder. It really is. 250 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: As I was reading this morning, Abraham Lincoln, it was 251 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: a war of choice to fight the South. Horace Greeley, 252 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: famous newspaper publisher at the time, Go West, young man, 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: that guy, Horace Greeley. I know more about him than 254 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: most people do because I live near Greeley County, which 255 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: is named after him, in the town of Horace, which 256 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: is the county seat, so we. 257 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: All learn about horse imagined. 258 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: But anyway, Horace Greeley was making the argument that is 259 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: a famous quote about letting the two ridiculous states go 260 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: and you know, make God, you know, enjoy maybe they 261 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: enjoy God's wrath or something. Like that, just let the 262 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: two first two states that succeeded secede don't go to war. 263 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: So it was a war of choice to decide no, 264 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to hold the union together. That was that 265 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: was the argument there, and a number of situations over 266 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: the years. So I don't I don't know. I understand 267 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: that if like you get bombed, it's obviously not a 268 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: war of choice. You're at war now, it's But the 269 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: argument is Iran has been declared war on us fifty 270 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: years ago, has killed more of our soldiers than anybody 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: else in that amount of time, has chanted death to 272 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: America over and over again. They have claimed that if 273 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: they get a nuclear weapon, they'd wipe Israel off the 274 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: map and attack the United States. And they're trying to 275 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: get a nuclear weapon and won't stop, right, So I 276 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: don't know what point becomes not a word choice there, 277 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: and then the whole imminent thing, How imminent was it? 278 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, spoke to that today. 279 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: There absolutely was an imminent threat. 280 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 8: And the imminent threat was that we knew that if 281 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 8: Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, 282 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 8: that they would immediately come after us, and we were 283 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 8: not going to sit there and absorb a blow before 284 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 8: we responded, because the Department of War assays that if 285 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 8: we did that, if we waited for them to hit 286 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 8: us first after they were attacked and by someone else 287 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 8: Israel attacked them, they hit us first, and we waited 288 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 8: for them to hit us, we would suffer more casualties 289 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 8: and more deaths. We went proactively in a defensive way 290 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 8: to prevent. 291 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Them from inflicting higher damage. Have we I've not done so? 292 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 8: There would have been hearings on Capitol Hill about how 293 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 8: we knew that this was going to happen and we 294 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 8: didn't act preemptively to prevent more casualties and more loss 295 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 8: of life. 296 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that gets to the whole after nine to eleven, 297 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, really going back, how did you miss this 298 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: information and allow this to happen? That sort of thing. 299 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of Jeff MCCAUSLM, he characterized that reasoning is the 300 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: tail wagging the dog because Israel was forcing our hand. 301 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that's accurate. I think we the United 302 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: States have wanted to get rid of the Iranian regime 303 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: for a long time. Trump was serious about it, and 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: we agreed with and encouraged Israel. 305 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Now is a good time, So go ahead. 306 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: It's half a You know, it's not a dishonest argument 307 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: exactly Rubio's making. It's I would call it incomplete. I 308 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: happen to agree with him, and what happened. 309 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'm further away from it than that. Even I 310 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: don't think you need that to make the argument that, well, 311 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: all the stuff I just said, they've been in an Ennemdia 312 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: Nited States forever, They've killed lots of our people, they 313 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: continue to try to kill our people, and they want 314 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: to get a nuclear weapon. 315 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: It's weird in a really strange way. It reminds me 316 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: of copyright laws, in which if you don't defend your 317 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: copyright this time, this time, this time, and this time, 318 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: when you defend it last the next time, the judge 319 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: is going to say, no, you haven't been defending it. 320 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: It's not really a copyright. Well, it's as if we 321 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: gave up the right to whack them hard when they 322 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: kill our people over and over and over again. So 323 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: now the left and some people on the right are saying, no, 324 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: it's a non imminent threat. We don't have a right 325 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: to attack them because they attacked us because we've let 326 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: it go so many times. 327 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: The weekest they'll ever be. 328 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: It's the best chance we ever have to take out 329 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: one of our biggest enemies on earth. I'm fine with 330 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: that calculation. I guess Congress will get involved on Thursday. 331 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: You got to give it a good four or five 332 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: days to sink in before the vote on it or 333 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: discuss it, and then maybe some much at some point 334 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: does the Supreme Court have to weigh in on this? 335 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: I wonder the war power is acting, whether or not legal. 336 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: They don't want any part of it. 337 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 338 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 339 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 7: There he was murtyred at eighty six. Man, are the 340 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 7: Virgin's gonna be disappointed? I'm sorry, I am I going 341 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 7: too hard on Hominay can murderous dictated that who don't 342 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 7: make fun of his erectile dysfunction. That's a bridge too. 343 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: Fast to it. I can mow down his own people. 344 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: But you know, was a serious drug. 345 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: He made another a jokes number of jokes on the 346 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: Daily Show last night about the eye. Told him the 347 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: crowd was like grown a little bit, like, Oh, I 348 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: don't be. 349 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I'll steer a cleric. The victim of Trump. 350 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: As the UH Free Press puts it, I should give 351 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: oh Maya Sulkan, who I absolutely love. You know, they 352 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: croaked the iatola and they croaked him. I'm summarizing the 353 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: first few sentences. For many Iranians, both in their country 354 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: and the diaspora, it was a day of celebration. This man, 355 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: a symbol of oppression for millions, and a leader with blood, 356 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: the blood of tens of thousands of his own people 357 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: on his hands, was gone. It's got to be hundreds 358 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: of thousands through the years. Yeah, yeah, almost certainly. But 359 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: some Western meetioutlets saw differently. In obituaries written about Kamenei, 360 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: excuses were made, his legacy was whitewashed, and nuance was 361 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: introduced where none was necessary. And I'm tempted to steal 362 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: the thunder of some of these headlines. 363 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: Now I won't. I'll be disappointed. 364 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: A New York Times headline described how Many as a 365 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: hardline cleric who made Iran a regional power. As author 366 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: Tim Urban put it on X, calling Kamani a hardline 367 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: cleric is akin to calling Hitler a hardline nationalist and 368 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: building a network of terrorist proxies across the region. Hamas Hezbollah, 369 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: the Huthis, and other minor groups can be described as 370 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: state craft. Well, then, yes, Kamani surely built Iran into 371 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: a regional power. 372 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: The problem is you word it that way and it 373 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: is a compliment. You shouldn't be complimenting evil people. 374 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've lost my discipline. 375 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: What's amazing here is they have this need to say, 376 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: we need to be balanced. We can't be pro American 377 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: and anti the foreign dictator. We've got to be balanced. 378 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: I've got a question for the editors of the New 379 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 3: York Times. If Kameny had been a Christian fundamentalist running 380 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: some sect, whether in the United States or maybe they 381 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: left the US and maybe they're in Guyana, where he 382 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: would regularly have women tortured, rape beaten, disfigured for running 383 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: a foul of his about murdering and trans people. Yeah, 384 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: oh yeah, slaughtering them in the name of his religion, 385 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: over and over again. Would you say, on the other hand, 386 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: the cafeteria was kept very clean and were told the 387 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: food was of high quality. No, you would gosh out 388 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: venom into gallons. 389 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: God, dang it, these people will make me insane. 390 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: I now, as I said to somebody over the weekend, 391 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: they can't help themselves when I was reading from the 392 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: Washington Post version where they talked about how I loved 393 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: poetry and ley miz. 394 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we're getting to that one. The Times went 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: on to describe his leadership style as characterized by his 396 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: avuncular and magnanimous aloofness above the jousting of daily politics, 397 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: which is a strange way to describe a man who 398 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: personally oversaw the massacres of many thousands of his countrymen. 399 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 3: After critics blasted the obituary, the Times pr team went 400 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 3: into a defensive crouch, taking to x to accuse detractors 401 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: of trying to quote dishonestly score points. The Washington Post 402 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: wasn't much better, assuring its readers that under kameny Iran 403 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: did not seek to destroy the Jewish state militarily. He 404 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: merely sought its dissolution through popular referendum. How they reached 405 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: this conclusion when the Iatolas x feed dished out post 406 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: after post repeatedly describing Israel as cascerous tumor in the 407 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: Middle East and assuring his followers that Zionism was always 408 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: close to implosion. How they came to that conclusion is 409 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: a mystery across the Pond. The Guardian took us on 410 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: a literary tour of the man's inner life. Is love 411 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: of Victor Hugo's Les Miserab, his fondness for Persian poetry, 412 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: and his mother's affection for the poet Hafez comedy. We 413 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: learned was an avid reader of Western literature, including Uncle 414 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: Tom's Cabin and The Graves of Wrath. It read more 415 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: like the obituary of a bookish scholar rather than a 416 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: man who ordered the imprisonment, torture and execution of his 417 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: own people. 418 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: That is disgusting. 419 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: It is not only disgusting, it's all you need to 420 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: diagnose a mental illness among these so called journalists. 421 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: So a buddy of mine sent me the Washington Post 422 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: version and said, and they wonder why nobody reads them anymore. 423 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: And they lost so much money they had to fire 424 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: the entire sports department and bring in their international correspondence. 425 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: This sort of crap, right, they haven't. The brainwashing is 426 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: so amazing and complete. For instance, Maya points out, while 427 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: these general obituary obituaries were being drafted in newsrooms across 428 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: the New York, Washington, London, something else was happening. Iranians 429 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: poured into the streets, not to mourn, but to celebrate. 430 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: For forty seven years, they'd lived under a regime that 431 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: imprisoned women for showing their hair, hanged gay men from 432 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: cranes in public squares, executed political prisoners by the thousands, 433 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: tortured dissidents in EAVN, prisoned the notorious the Tehran Facility, 434 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: where rape and psychological torture were standard practice, and they 435 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: treated the most basic human rights to speak, to dress, 436 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: to practice religion, feeling freely as crimes punishable by death. 437 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: In La, home to the largest Iranian community outside of 438 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: her On, a community built by people who fled the 439 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: comedy regime, crowds gathered outside the Wilshire Federal Building waving Iranian, 440 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: American and Israeli flags. They chanted freedom for Iran and 441 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: do more or no more. Ayatola, Arizona Congresswoman Yasamin I'm sorry, 442 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: the first Iranian American elected to Congress, said, simply quote, 443 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: Kamedy was the epitome of evil. For decades, he oversaw 444 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: the torture, imprisonment, and murder of countless Iranians who dared 445 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: to demand freedom. It's sickening. How that's interesting twisted these 446 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: editors are. 447 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: I hadn't journalists. I hadn't heard that quote. I didn't 448 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: know we had an Iranian American in Congress. I wonder 449 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: how she gets along with Rashida Tulib, who over the 450 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: weekends said remember that thing yesterday where she said Israel 451 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: in the United States just blah blah blah. 452 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: This is who they are. 453 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: With the response to a lot of people being they 454 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: you refer to the United States as they, and obviously 455 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: this is a bad thing. So the Iranian American cheers it. 456 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: The Muslim of a different stripe, Palestinian I believe, Oh 457 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, who hates American hates Israel. But they 458 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: don't get along like in a different kind of level 459 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: of you know, I think we need higher taxes. 460 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: I mean, don't get along like they each wish the 461 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: other one was dead and might do something about it 462 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: given the chance. Yeah, I would agree. It's it's both 463 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: good and bad that the bigfoot media have completely lost 464 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: their sway over American life. 465 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: And in twenty years, what's that KNA look like. 466 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: Well, they're either going to wake up, get sane, and 467 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: get smart, or they will go away. 468 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything coming back. You got to 469 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: be practically our age to have any respect for words 470 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: like Washington Post and New York Times and CBS Evening News. 471 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: If you're much younger than forty five fifty. 472 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: You never grew up with it having any power. 473 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything to my kids at all, those 474 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: phrases I just said, So there's no bringing it back. 475 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: You'd have to create it out a whole cloth and 476 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: earn it one hundred percent because you don't have any 477 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: of the legacy name for the younger crowd. 478 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: I want to. 479 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: Squeeze this in now and then I want to do 480 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: it again early in the show tomorrow. Somebody remind me 481 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 3: because I'll forget, but just very briefly the co Many 482 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: then comedy regime. In November of seventy nine, there was 483 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: the taking of the American hostages, held for four hundred. 484 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: And forty four days. 485 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: Famously, ninety four bomb laden van driven into a Jewish 486 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: community in Buenos Aires, Argentina, killed eighty five injured over 487 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: three hundred, deadliest terrorist attack in Argentine history, worst attack 488 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: against Jewis since the Holocaust. It was Iran and Hesbela. 489 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: Two years later, the bombing of the Kobar Towers in 490 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia killed nineteen US service members linked to another 491 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: Iranian back group. Then there was the attack on the 492 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: USS Coal blah blahlah blah, and at times it went they. 493 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: Grout bombing somehow with all the dead Marines three hundred. 494 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, where the hell is that? That was in the eighties, 495 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: that's funny. 496 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty three, right eighty three? Yeah, Oh, I'm sorry, 497 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: they well anyway, blah blah blah blah blah. The attack 498 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: on the USS Coal, Al qaeda seizing of a Navy ship, 499 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 3: humiliating American sailors in twenty sixteen, forcing them to kneel 500 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: crying before Ranian forces. 501 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: You remember that one. Yeah. 502 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: Five days later, President Obama sent four hundred million dollars 503 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: to Iran, by the way to try to buy their 504 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: friendship under their comedies watch. Roughly one hundred and eighty 505 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: attacks on Western forces took place in the region after 506 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: October seventh, twenty twenty three. One hundred and eighty, including 507 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: a drone strike on a base in Jordan that killed 508 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: three Americans, all part of Iran's plan to spread terror 509 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: and violence throughout the Middle East, and then they go 510 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: into some of the details. 511 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Of Hamas has Bella. The houthis the rest of it. 512 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: Then the delightful history of beating, torturing, and raping women 513 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: for running a foul of their awful plain clothes religious police. 514 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: And we had a guest on earlier today. I want 515 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: belabor it by bringing up his name, but he said, well, 516 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: there are lots of bad countries out there, not that 517 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: are attacking us on a regular business a basis. North 518 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: Korea is a bad country. Give me an example of 519 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: when North Korea has killed multiple Americans over and over 520 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: and over. 521 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: Again, right right. It was a bad argument and a 522 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: weak one. 523 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, just a vish, brutal, horrifying regime that 524 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: exported their ugliness and horror and killed our guys over 525 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: and over and over again. 526 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: So I am a believer that it's odd that one 527 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: guy gets to make the decision whether we do something 528 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: about that or not, and we need to figure that 529 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: out a better system for that. I don't know exactly 530 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: what it is, because I don't know how realistic it 531 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: would be to take it to Congress, get a vote, 532 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: go through all that, and then strike. I don't know. 533 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: I really don't know, and I don't think Congress would 534 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: ever vote for anything because nobody wants their nobody has 535 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: the guts to have their name attached to a vote 536 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: to do anything. 537 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Right only sure bets. 538 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: I don't know. 539 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you make that work. But the 540 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: idea of one guy Trump could have. Well, like Barack Obama, 541 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: did you know red line with Syria international laws you 542 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: can't use chemical weapons. We draw a red line, Siria 543 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: uses chemicals, and Barack Obama goes for a walk in 544 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: the garden and decides, nah, we'll let it slide, which 545 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: led to I think Ukraine and all kinds of other things. 546 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I probably shouldn't be in one guy's hands. 547 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: But that's up to Congress, you know, get together, vote, 548 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: have a discussion. That is a hell of a hard question, 549 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: I'd say, which is I guess what we'll be discussing 550 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: on Thursday when Congress finally does get together and discusses 551 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: the War Powers Act. God, will that be anything close 552 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: to the way governments supposed to look? Or will it 553 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: just be the usual for TV partisan nonsense fundraising fundraising? 554 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm not optimistic AnyWho. We'll finish strong next. 555 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 6: The latest statistics show the average American woman having one 556 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 6: point six children over the course of her lifetime, well 557 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 6: below the so called replacement rate of time two point 558 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 6: one needed to keep the population stable. The decline began 559 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 6: in two thousand and seven with the Great Recession. Now, 560 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: as then, a lack of affordable housing has some women 561 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 6: stepping back from child bearing, at least for now. 562 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what. 563 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: That's ABC News one claiming the declining birth rate just 564 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: started in two thousand and eight. That's bull and the 565 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: second that it's because of expensive housing. Oh my god, what's. 566 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: The point of even watching or reading news? I said 567 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: this the other day. 568 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: We need to take a vow of just completely disregarding 569 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: all of the traditional bigfoot media from here on out. 570 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: Never watch them, never mention them. What I mean less laughable. Well, 571 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: that's every word of that was dishonest or inaccurate. There's 572 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: it's give us a report on talking turtles next, or 573 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: you know your your buddy who has magical powers. 574 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: ABC News, which was the leader over the weekend on 575 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: reporting that the United States had killed sixty school children 576 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: by bombing a school in Iran. Where did that story go? 577 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: I haven't heard about it. Hardly, since lots of people 578 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: were reporting at the time. I thought it was horrific, 579 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: And then they said, according to the Iranian Defense Department. 580 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: So you took the Iranian government's word for this and 581 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: put it on the news like its fact, even though 582 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: they denied killing thirty thousand people a month or so ago, 583 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: even though the whole world knows they did so the 584 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: same people that lied about that, You take their word 585 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: for it here. 586 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: Well, I just came. 587 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Across this from an Iranian journalist. I can't believe I 588 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 2: didn't think about this myself. Does this tactic sound familiar 589 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Hamas Hezbollah? Where do you think they learned this from 590 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: their Iranians? Is Iranian journalists saying for years, we've been 591 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: shouting that Hamas takes its orders for Kamani and that 592 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: their playbook has always been to hold their media or 593 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: fire rockets from schools or hospitals so that they can 594 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: make these claims. Well, of course, they're turning schools into barracks, 595 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: using children as human shields to protect themselves. It's the 596 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: they invented this playbook. Don't fall for it, of course. 597 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: Nice job ABC. 598 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: When the difficult to penetrate veil of instead of calling 599 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: Hesbelah the you know, Iranian army, we call him Hesbela 600 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: or Hamas when they're like three miles down the road 601 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: or the hoo Thies or whatever. All of our guys 602 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: on our bases all over the world are American soldiers 603 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: and we acknowledge that, but yeah, they're all the same. 604 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: Jerkie Clark, kiss, Tim stop, Jack and Joe Livca go 605 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: and if they don't give, canvillep. 606 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: Beats tomro Road. 607 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 608 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: Let's get a final tough from everybody on the CRUI 609 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: to wrap things up to the day. There he is 610 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: our technical director, Michelangelow, pressing the buttons. 611 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: What's your final thought? 612 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're ambitious and you're willing to move, there's 613 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: a lot of government jobs opening up in Iran, so jeez, 614 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. 615 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good benefits, but a little explode, Katie. Rain 616 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: are esteemed to use woman as a final thought. 617 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: Katie, I believe it was you, Joe who paints such 618 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: pictures with words, And now I will forger picture men 619 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: being dragged to heaven by their niles. 620 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm converting to whatever religion doesn't have that, uh Jack. 621 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: A final thought for us, just to follow. 622 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: Up, as this Iranian journalist in case you hear another 623 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: story that could happen this afternoon of US bombing a 624 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: hospital or a school. 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