1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Action Network. 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: I am Chad Moman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: I am joined for the podcast as I am every 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: episode by my bff, my companion, my compadre. Don't forget. 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: We're presented by Bett three sixty five professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, soymon, 6 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Hello Chad? 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: How you doing? My guy? 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: My brother? You know what I can't wait for? NFL 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: season will start and you and I will be talking 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: every single mother, love and day. We're gonna have a 11 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: podcast on Sunday nights that is live as the the 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: late afternoon games and as first lines are coming up, 13 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: reviewing our pain points. We'll have a podcast on Tuesday 14 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: that's live. We'll have a podcast on Thursday that's live. 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: We'll have a show on Sunday that's live. We'll probably 16 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: have a show on Wednesday. I'll get you every single 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: day instead of you know, a couple Poppins during the 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: week where I get to see your beautiful face. 19 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to keep busy chat. I literally 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: went and flew to go see a volcano last week 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: just to keep busy. I'm like, I'm exploring I'm also like, 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: how can I just do something to keep me not 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: thinking about football? Because I can't stop betting. I can't 24 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: stop betting Rams futures. I can't stop betting Bears futures, 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: Denver Bronco futures chat. It's bad. So I'm trying to 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: stay busy seeing volcanoes, maybe going to Japan in a 27 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It's been fun, but I can't wait 28 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: for football. 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I did see your volcano post in your stories. 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah it was crazy people. Somebody asked him what it 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: was like, and I try to explain him. It's like 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: seeing a million fireworks at once. It's really I don't 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: even know. I was probably half a mile away and 34 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: I could feel the heat. I mean, it's it's that 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: intense volcano. So my brother, unfortunately, he's flying in tomorrow, 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: and I promised when we go see the volcano, guess 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: what stops spewing lava yesterday. Yeah, so I feel terrible. 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: He's flying all the way out to Hawaiian will still 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: have a good time, but he's not going to check 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: it off his bucket list because the volcano has stopped 41 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: shooting out lava. 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Soon enough, Simon, it'll be football season. Thank god, We'll 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: be betting our mother loving faces off. Until then, we 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: will be betting aggressively on the NBA Draft, which is 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: happening this week. 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We've got like, 93 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: here's some of the hype that we're seeing. We've got 94 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: Mike Schmidz calls Wemyama the best prospect he's ever evaluated. 95 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: This is his life's work. Is he evaluating prospects? Women 96 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: now number one all time? We got woj calls lemen 97 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: Yama the greatest prospect in the history of team sports. 98 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Let me just say one thing. He said that. He 99 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: said that the night of the draft Lotter, he was 100 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: on set with Richard Jefferson and Malika, and he said this, 101 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: and it was such hyperbole and it was so over 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the top. I swear to God, I saw Richard Jefferson 103 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: just shaking his head like I cannot believe this guy's 104 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: saying this right now. 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the hyperbole, the hyperbole is ridiculous. But 106 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: then you watch Lemen Yama play and you're like, oh 107 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: my gosh, what am I watching right now? We have 108 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: created like a two K player and then made him 109 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: an actual, real life player. He's seven foot four. He 110 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: has an eight foot wingspan. Like picture two park benches 111 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: right next to each other. This guy just reaches his 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: hands out and touches the ends of both park benches. 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: That's the wingspan we have. He's a ten foot standing reach. 114 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: That means flat foot under the basket. Just touch the ram, 115 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: no problem, just touch the ram. I cand do that 116 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: out here like Ridigbert, the guy that miam Minnesota Timbrels 117 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: traded away like a thousand picks and all their players 118 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: for last year five inches shorter standing reach. This is 119 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: the center like many time Defensive Player of the Year women, 120 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: Yama's five inches taller standing reach, but on offense, he 121 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: looks like Kevin Durant. We have this like seven foot 122 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: four dude dribbling between his legs, bring the ball up 123 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: the court, taking step back jumpers, taking one legged step 124 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: back threes. Like what are we watching? It's impossible not 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: to see that happen and be like, I don't know 126 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: what this player is. He could be, Woj said, And 127 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: I think that same quote that he thinks, he said, 128 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: executives tell him three years from now that Wemenyama will 129 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: be the best offensive and defensive player in the entire 130 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: league at that point. So this is the guy going 131 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: number one minus one hundred thousand right now to go 132 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: number one to the Spurs. So we know that that's 133 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: different than a usual draft. But that's where we start 134 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: with things. For sure, I. 135 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Love everything about the NBA draft, especially the stupid hype. 136 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: That's that's the best part. I mean, what was it 137 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: three four years ago, Zion was the best prospect ever 138 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: and it turns out he's addicted to porn stars. But 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't think Victor's gonna be the same way. He 140 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: seems like he's more adult like. But you know, it's 141 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: just this is the this is the beast that the 142 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: NBA is right. The NBA is all about the new toy. 143 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: It's about the next guy, and everyone's been waiting for 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: that Lebron replacement. I just I just don't see it 145 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: here this kid. I get the hype and I get 146 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: the love, but especially after reading your article, there's just 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: a lot of little red flag with him. Other than 148 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: the fact that this guy looks like he weighs one 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: hundred pounds soaking wet. Again, he could put on the 150 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: body weight, but we saw Durant adjusted to it, right. 151 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: Durant never got Jack, never got big. He adjusted to 152 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: the league and made his body perfect for what the 153 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: league is, which is he's long, he's lean, but he 154 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: isn't people put weight into him, right. I think that's 155 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: something Victor's got to learn to play with. So I 156 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: love everything you're saying right now. It's also one of 157 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: those where I feel like we're on the same page 158 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: of fade this kid, Like this is one of these 159 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: things we have to kind of fade him. We don't 160 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: want to fade him, right, but we kind of have to, 161 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: just because this is like the craziest hypever. I just 162 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: want to get your level of have you ever remember 163 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: seeing a player hyped like this. I mean again, I 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: said the Zion thing. Zion was kind of like a 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: mystical thing, right, it was like this guy dominated college 166 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: at Duke, busted out of his shoe. I've been hearing 167 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: about Victor for man. It might be three years now, 168 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: four years, Like I remember seeing his little film playing 169 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: in France or maybe Spain when he was like, I 170 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: don't know, sixteen fifteen. Is this like the last of 171 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: this dying Reid? 172 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Right? 173 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: Is this the last of these hyped European players or 174 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: is this about to be a pipeline thing where we 175 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: just see it year after year there's these great players 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: going from Europe. 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we have right now NBA champion 178 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic out of Serbia. Everyone wants Jokic. Right now, 179 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: we have NBA champion Gianni Sanda Dea Kumpo. We have 180 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: NBA MVP Joel Embiid, like all the faces of the 181 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: NBA right now, MVPs champions and Joel Embiid, all of 182 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: them are these euro guys that we want to get. 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, euro player from Slovenia probably the next one 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: on that list at some point and so I think 185 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: that has to be helping right now. It's really interesting 186 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: to me. A year ago in the NBA draft, we 187 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: had a guy named Chet and he was this skinny 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: dude out of Gonzaga. Tall, skinny guy, blocked a lot 189 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: of shots, could dribble, bring it up the court, shoot threes, 190 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: and everyone was like, I don't know, man, white, skinny 191 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: dude from Minnesota named Chet doesn't feel like an NBA 192 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: star to me. Now we got Mistique, we got Victor 193 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: Wembinyama from France, and we love our euro players. Like 194 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: I think, if this was like a few years ago 195 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: and we didn't have the Janis and Jokic and all 196 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: the stuff that's been happening already, I feel like this 197 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: would be in a different spot. So I think that's 198 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: playing into the hype. The mystery actually is part of 199 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: the intrigue right now. It's hard to look. My article 200 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: is called Confessions of a Victor Woman. I'm a skeptic, 201 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: so I'm the foremost skeptic here. As the skeptic in 202 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: my article. Things I compare him to people I compare 203 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: him to are evolutionary. Kevin Garnett my favorite player of 204 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: all time in my Twitter avatar Kevin Garnett top twenty 205 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: player of all time. In my opinion, I compare him 206 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: to evolutionary Bill Russell, who is like the greatest winner 207 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: in NBA history, only I think, like twelve and one 208 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: in the NBA Finals. I'm the skeptic, and these are 209 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: the comps I have to come up with. Are these 210 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: sort of guys. So I think, to me, it's less 211 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: fade Victor. It's more fade the hype, which is a 212 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: little bit more nuanced in that way. But I think, 213 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: to me, the way to fade the hype in the 214 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: immedia future is you can better right now in Rookie 215 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: of the Year. And I think Victor, even if he 216 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: is all the things we expect to be, you talked 217 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: about the size, the thin frame, that's gonna take some time, 218 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: right It's gonna take some time to add muscle, NBA strength, 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: find the game, find the role, get the right guys 220 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: around him. You're gonna need some strength around him. You're 221 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: gonna need the right guys to get him the ball. 222 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: And I think that he's not necessarily gonna like run 223 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: point on the offense, so you need to feed him 224 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: the right path, get the right shots up. Scoot Henderson, 225 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: guy that's gonna go sacond or third in the draft. 226 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: Point guard. He is gonna have the ball in his hands. 227 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: He has been playing in G League for two years already, 228 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: so he's been playing pro ball, running a professional offense already, 229 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: putting up seventeen points, five boards, seven assists. He's a 230 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 3: guy that's ready to come in and in many other 231 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: drafts where we didn't have women, Yama who absolutely should 232 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: be number one. Despite my skepticism, you gotta take him 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: number one. That's clear. In many other drafts, Scoot Henderson 234 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: would be the number one pick. So I think Scoot 235 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: comes in. We don't quite I know what team he's 236 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: going to be on yet, but I think he's going 237 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: to be the guy that wins Rookie of the Year. 238 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: He's gonna put up the numbers. Rookie of the Year 239 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: is not about advanced stats and defense and winning. Like 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: my research is just basically says, take the guy out 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: the numbers. I think Scoot's going to have the numbers. 242 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: I think Victor's numbers are going to come and go 243 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: a little bet he's going to have nights. We picked 244 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: up that injury in the first quarter and then they're like, 245 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: you know what, let's play it. Say if you're out 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: for tonight, or we got those two fouls in the 247 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: first minute or two because he's reaching over guys or 248 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: something like that. Scoot, I think is going to play 249 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: and get the numbers plus four point fifty at bet 250 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: three sixty five. I think it is a good number 251 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: for Scoot. That was my bet in the article. That's 252 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: the way I'm fading one Binyama right now. 253 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: So you made a really interesting point in your story 254 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: about the season long stat line these guys generally need 255 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: to have to win Rookie of the Year. This year, 256 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: there's an added twist because there's a sixty six game 257 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: minimum for people to be eligible for the awards. So 258 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: give me your take on why when bin Yama will 259 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: likely not put himself in a position to win Rookie 260 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: of the Year because of the game minimum and because 261 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: of the stat line. And I can tell people what 262 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: that stat line generally needs to be sure. 263 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: So fifteen points a game is kind of the bare minimum. 264 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: All about one of the last two decades of Orkies 265 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: of the Year, I've had at least fifteen average is 266 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: about eighteen points a game. There even more than points 267 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: points plus rebounds plus assess. If you bet NBA props, 268 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: you bet the PRA. You're familiar with that one points 269 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: rebounds and assess minimum Since Lebron, all but two rookies 270 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: of the year twenty five or higher points rebounds assess, 271 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: and more lately it's closer to thirty the last like 272 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: six guys are averaging over thirty points rebounds assess. So 273 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: Matt Moore and I over at Buckets Podcast argue about 274 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: this all the time. Really, you're gonna really bet rebounds. 275 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: That's why someone wins Rooki year. It doesn't win one 276 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: of these awards. Really, yes, because a lot of times 277 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: voters just look at numbers and they're like, oh well 278 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: this sixteen seven and two versus seventeen five and seven. 279 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: We all grew up reading baseball cards and looking at numbers, 280 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: like we know instinctively as a fan, which one of 281 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: those number lines stands out. Voting is subjective. This stuff 282 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: actually does matter to voters. So I think for women Yama, 283 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: he has right now, I believe, the highest usage rate 284 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: in European history. I don't think that is going to translate, 285 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: at least right away to the NBA usage means you're 286 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: the guy. You're the guy getting the shot up or 287 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: getting the assists, your guy at the ball. I think 288 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: it's going to be start at least as more of 289 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: a play finisher. Scoot is going to get those shots up. 290 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, like I said, seventeen five and seven 291 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: for Scoot, that's the points, rebounds, assists, those were his 292 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: g League numbers, that those are not just made up, 293 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: that's literally his line as a professional the last two years. 294 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: Seventeen is right in line with those points per game, 295 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Teen five and seven are right in line with points 296 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: rebounds assess. For Victor, we don't know his numbers in France, 297 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: don't necessarily know if they'll translate, so I think that 298 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: he ends up something more like sixteen seventeen points. Maybe 299 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked to see him not even hit 300 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: that fifteen points per game mark. The rebounds, he has 301 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: a very high center of gravity, as you can imagine, 302 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: as this giant man is very high hips he gets 303 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: pushed around a little bit. Again, he's to had some strength, 304 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: so he's gonna be tall in your rebounds, but he's 305 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: gonna get pushed off a little bit. I think he's 306 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: going to get too many assists. He's a nice passer, 307 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: but that's just not a role he's going to have. 308 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: So if he's at like sixteen seven and two, you're 309 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: barely getting to these marks that we're seeing over the years. 310 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: And maybe the hype is enough to make up for that. 311 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: But the other side of it is the Spurs really 312 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: betting against wenby Rookie of the Year for me is 313 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: a little bit betting on the Spurs. San Antonio has 314 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,239 Speaker 3: been an awesome franchise for decades now. They've had David Robbin, 315 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: They've had uh, you know, Tim Duncan. The wild thing 316 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: is women Yana might not even be like a top two, 317 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: number one pick for the Spurs. These are the guys 318 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: he has to go against, right Like, that's no shame 319 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: to maybe have to measure up to David Robinson and 320 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: Tim Duncan. But I think the Spurs are gonna be 321 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: very careful with him. We saw last year Chat Holmgreen, 322 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: who I mentioned haven't played yet in the NBA. He 323 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: missed his entire rookie season. He picked up a foot injury. 324 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: They cautiously weighed out the whole year. The Spurs are 325 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: a smart, smart team. They're gonna play this the long game, right. 326 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: The Spurs don't really care if Victor Remenyama gets a 327 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year trophy. The Spurs want to win 328 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: five championships. Like Tim Duncan dead, They're gonna play two 329 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: decades with whom Mignana they hope. They don't need to 330 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: get him to that sixty sixty five whatever games. Uh. 331 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a guy getting load management 332 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: right away, like the way that we see with Lebron, 333 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: with Kawhi some of the older players. I think we're 334 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: gonna sit Womenyama on back to backs every now and then, 335 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: and when he picks up that inevitable injury, not even 336 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: just because he's injury prone, just because everyone gets an injury. 337 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: I think they give him a couple of weeks. Take 338 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 3: your time, buddy, it's a long game. We're not going 339 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: to win the title this year. I don't even know 340 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: that they make the playoffs. Usually hype rookies like this, don't. 341 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: I think they take their time. They let him set 342 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: out a little bit. This is developmental, but all that 343 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: means you miss a few weeks with an injury, you 344 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: miss a few games for load management. Suddenly now you 345 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: might play fifty fifty five sixty games. You might not 346 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: even be eligible. Those rules are still a little bit 347 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: up in the air right now. But also voters can 348 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: see that as well, even if the rules don't qualify it. 349 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: If Scoot plays seventy and has better numbers and Victor 350 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: plays fifty or sixty games and the numbers don't stack up, 351 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: I just think Scoot could be the guy that comes 352 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: away as the winner there. 353 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Chet home Ron is so interesting to me because it 354 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: has kind of been forgotten that he didn't play last year, 355 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: and because of that he is elible for Rookie of 356 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: the Year this year. Where would you stack his odds 357 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: in terms of value compared to Webben Yama, compared to 358 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson. I love Chet. The other day someone said, Hi, 359 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: who's the best player in the NBA? And he said, 360 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: in two months, it'll be me. Like, the guy is 361 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: not lacking, He's got a ton of swag. What do 362 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: you think of his numbers right now? I think he's 363 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: probably plus five hundred. 364 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think I've seen Chet even as 365 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: long as like six fifty seven hundred some books. It's 366 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: those three. Really, those are the three guys, which makes sense. 367 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: Another number from my article is basically just overwhelmingly top 368 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: three draft picks win Rookie of the Year. And even 369 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: among that, almost fifty percent of all the rookie of 370 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: the year in the last like two decades have been 371 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: the number one pick. Daw, we know who the best 372 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: player is. They go number one to a bad team 373 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: that puts them in. We saw last year Paula bon 374 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: Cairo number one pick one rookie of the year, chat 375 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: Holmgren win the top three last year, so he qualifies 376 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: under that. We have four top three picks this year 377 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: because of that. So I love chet the prospect. I 378 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: was very high on him. He's number one on my 379 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: board last year. I don't want any piece of chet 380 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: holm Grin for Rookie of the Year. Has nothing to 381 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: do with the fact that I like, nothing to do 382 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: with this prospect. It is all the things we said 383 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: about women Yama are true and truer of chet hoolm Grin. 384 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: The body is still going to take some time. Probably 385 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: a little better now than it was a year ago, 386 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: but it's going to take some time to get there. 387 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: He's definitely not a guy who's going to run point 388 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: or play with the ball in his hands. He's going 389 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: to be a play finisher. He's going to get some 390 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: of that foul trouble. He surely is going to get 391 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: load managed and miss some injury time. He just missed 392 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: an entire season. Okay, see another very smart patient organization. 393 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: So I don't think Chet is going to have the numbers. 394 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: When guys like me log into Basketball Reference and pull 395 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: up the bpms and vorps and schwarps and all the 396 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: advanced stats, I'm gonna be the one on the podcast 397 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: saying guys, Chet should be Rookie of the Year. Look 398 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: at the advanced metrics. He's amazing. Voters don't vote on 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: that stuff. Voters want numbers. That's what we've seen. So 400 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: I think Chat and Victor will be really good rookies. 401 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: I think Scoot Henderson will have numbers and be pretty 402 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: good and be Rookie of the Year. 403 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of drama, A lot of questions ually 404 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: from our amp lists. Shout out to all our amp lists, 405 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: especially h Bone, big big fan of h Bone. What's 406 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: the drama right now between the number two and number 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: three pick? I feel like that's really where this draft 408 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: gets going right. I feel like everyone's been talking about 409 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: the two and three pick. They've been flip flopping. I mean, 410 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: chatter knows why. I like Scoot. I mean, how can 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 2: you not love a guy with the named Scoot? And 412 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: I think, what is it? Brandon Miller? The other guy 413 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: ed one of the worst quotes I've ever seen, ever 414 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: seen in my life. If someone's your favorite player, you 415 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: don't call them the goat. You just say that's my 416 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: favorite player. So someone asked him, is Lebron James the 417 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: goat or Michael Jordan? He said, either, my goat is 418 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: Paul George. I couldn't believe that. The interviewer just let 419 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: that go. This kid might be an idiot, but he's 420 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: looking like he might be going number two. 421 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Overall. 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: What's your view on the number two and number three pick. 423 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: We've seen some crazy movement here in the last twenty 424 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: four hours. 425 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the line movement has gone heavily towards Brandon Miller 426 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: being number two to the Charlotte Hornets. Right now, it 427 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: was something like minus two hundred as I went to 428 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: bed last night. It's up closer to minus five hundred. Now. 429 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: We're moving strongly in the range now where it looks 430 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: like Miller is likely to pick. But you guys, remember 431 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: a year ago we did this at the top of 432 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: the draft when min Yana's number one. Forget about it, 433 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: pretend number two was number one. That's where the draft starts. 434 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: Last year, we had Paolo von Carroll was not supposed 435 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: to go number one with Jabari Smith I think something 436 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: like minus one hundred thousand the day before the draft 437 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: to go number one, and then started coming down minus 438 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: sixty thousand, minus twenty thousand, got to like minus thirteen hundred, 439 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: and then there was another tweet right before the draft, 440 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: like a couple hours before that, that said, okay, you 441 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: know the sources said no, it's Jabbari Jabari's number one, 442 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: and the line sha right back up again. This the 443 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: thing with the NBA draft that's different than than betting 444 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: on a game, or even betting on NFL draft. It's 445 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: all information. It's all intel information and misinformation, and one 446 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: guy's information coming out feeds the next mock draft, feeds 447 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: the next report and the next Everyone wants credit, right, 448 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: So you got to be really careful about who you're 449 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: getting your your tweets and your sources from, not just 450 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: the guy with like the misspelled letter in the name. 451 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: So it's a fake version, but different sources are getting 452 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: the same text from the same agents and the same sources. Charlotte, 453 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: of course, is all reporting right now. All reporting is 454 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: saying Charlotte wants Brandon Miller, the wing out of Alabama, 455 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: shoots the ball well, good size, sort of guy that 456 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: every NBA player, you know, every every NBA team would want. 457 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: Paul George is a good count for him. That's who 458 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 3: I would compare Brandon Miller too, so sure it can 459 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: be his goat. I guess, horrendous quote. I don't know 460 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: what you're doing there. Scoot Henderson is a face of 461 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: the franchise sort of guy. He's a leader. He played 462 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: in the fall. He played against Wim and Yama. There 463 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: is this two game series and Scoot is a six 464 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: to two point guard and he went right at the 465 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: seven to four dude. Now he got blocked, but he 466 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: went right at him. He got that dog in him right, 467 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: like he fights. He plays hard, athletic Derrick Rose sort 468 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: of player. So to me as a scout and from 469 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 3: a lot of the draft twitter that I've seen, Scoot 470 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: is the guy that is number two and really number 471 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: two in a tier of his own. Brandon Miller doesn't 472 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: seem like the guy there. But the Hornets have a 473 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: point guard already, so there's a lot of talking like, well, 474 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: do you do you draft for fit or do you 475 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: draft for need? An NFL draft you if you have 476 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: a quarterback, great, well we're not going to take one 477 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks. Maybe we trade out. The NBA is 478 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: more fluid because you just put these five guys out there. 479 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson could play with LaMelo Ball they get both played. Yeah, 480 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: you're gonna have two guys run point a little bit 481 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: and share the duties. You might actually be better off 482 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: that way. You can play multiple wings, three four of 483 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: them sometimes like Brandon Miller. So to me, that's where 484 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: things start. The drama is this Miller is not necessarily 485 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: the guy that's number two overall, but expected to go 486 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: number two. Right now, Portland sits at number three. Portland 487 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: doesn't want Scoot Henderson necessarily, it seems, because he's a 488 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: point guard. Portland has a superstar point guard, Damian Lillard. 489 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: Jamian Lillard just coming off of one of his best seasons. 490 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to bring in, you know, a nineteen 491 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: year old point guard to sit behind him and come 492 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: off the bench. He wants to win. He wants to 493 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: go win right now. So that's the drama. Is Portland 494 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: would like to trade that pick for Paul George is 495 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: one of the rumors that's come out for Zion Williamson. Possibly. 496 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: These are some of the names being rumored. Matt Moore 497 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 3: is an article oup at Action Network with some of 498 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: the Portland rumors. But it's really fascinating that if Miller 499 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: does go number two, like the I would suggest right 500 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: now that puts Portland, it kind of corners them and 501 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: they're stock quote unquote with the guy that most people 502 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: would want to have anyways in stut Henderson when they 503 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: really would like to trade and get some veteran help 504 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: trade out. If they do take Scoot, that might be 505 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: the next domino that we spend the next week talking about. Okay, well, 506 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: here comes that trade with cuss from Damian Lillard, and 507 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: now where's he going to go? Is he going to 508 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: go to the Heat or the Lakers or the Clippers 509 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: or something like it? That that In the NBA, it's 510 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: almost as much fun in the offseason as it is 511 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: in the games. Just watching all the hype and where 512 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 3: the players all go. So it's tough to bet on it. 513 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: You got to get the intel and you got to 514 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 3: act fast. But that's what the drama looks like at 515 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: two and three. 516 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Right now, I feel like someone like the Bulls, and 517 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: I read Matt's sort of intel reports. There's been a 518 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of conversations about zach Lavine being on the market. 519 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: The Bulls should go all in, get rid of zach Lavine, 520 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: send him to Portland for a bushel of players and 521 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: that number three spot, and get Scoot Henderson and start rebuilding. 522 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Not even a rebuild, you get Scoot Henderson, you PLoP 523 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: them in there. That could be a team that has 524 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: much higher ceiling in the long run. 525 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of veterans like that. 526 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: I would love to see the Chicago Bulls hit the 527 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: rebuild switch. But I've been waiting for that for a 528 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: few years now, and they kind of keep doubling down 529 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: and tripling down, trading for Boots, trading for DeMar DeRozan. 530 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: So there are a lot of names out there, and 531 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: the question for a lot of these teams is you 532 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 3: see Denver, you see what they can do and win 533 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: the championship. Can we beat them? Can we be that 534 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: level of team? And if we can't, then where are we? 535 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: Because for the Bulls, for example, they were a few 536 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: minutes away from beating the Mammy Heat and knocking them 537 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: out of the play in and out of the playoffs entirely, 538 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: and then the Heater in the finals. So if you're Chicago, 539 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: which version of reality do you accept? Do you accept 540 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: the one that says, well, we almost beat the Heat, 541 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: maybe we would have made the run of the finals. 542 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: That's delusional. You should not accept that reality. But you 543 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: could try to tog yourself into that or you could accept, well, 544 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: we should have not even been in that position. Let's 545 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: trade our guys. Let's trade Levine, Let's get that haul. 546 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: Get these you know, huge swing of first round picks, 547 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: and you know there's a difference between we're giving you 548 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: two picks, three four picks versus this is the number 549 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: three pick. And in reality, if it's Scoot, it's kind 550 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: of like the number one pick. You don't get to 551 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: trade for the number one pick in a draft that 552 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: level of prospect, that guy is not available, Like the 553 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: Spurs are not taking offers for one Minyama. There's there 554 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: are no offers. No, they've disconnected the phones, they've left 555 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: the facilities. They're out partying, celebrating the future with him. 556 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: I think Scoot is not that, but it's the sort 557 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: of guy that you if he's possibly available, you find 558 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: a way to make the offer for for me, a 559 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 3: long shot bet if you want here. I still think 560 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: Scoot could be in play to go number two just 561 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 3: because of the trade value. Maybe only offer comes in 562 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: for Charlotte. I like and drafts to bet on uncertainty. 563 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: I like Brandon Miller to go number four in the 564 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: draft because if he's not number two, everyone agrees Scoot 565 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: two or three for sure, not everyone agrees Brandon Miller 566 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: is that same level or the next guy to go 567 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: number four is twenty five to one right now at 568 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: bet three six y five. If you think that there's 569 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: a little bit of uncertainty there, if he doesn't go 570 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: number two, then maybe he slips a little bit further 571 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: than people think. So I like to bet on some 572 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: of these long shots. You guys know, I'm a long 573 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: shots guy. I think that's one that if things slip, 574 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: it could end up hitting. 575 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: You can remember last time the Blazers passing a guy 576 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: just so that the uh not the Bearriers that Chicago 577 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: can move in and take a guy that they didn't 578 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: need because I already have the position filled. So, as 579 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: someone that secretly loves the Blazers, I always wish the 580 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: best for the Blazers just because their fans are amazing. 581 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean Dame time in that playoff series when he 582 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: hit that overtime shot and the whole crowd went wild, 583 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: it was just like, God, I want Portland to get us, 584 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: get you know, a world championship man. When I hate 585 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: this move for them, it's it's just it's terrifying to 586 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: think that they have a high draft pick like this 587 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: and they're gonna keep on trying to make it work 588 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 2: with Dame. Trade Dame to the Sixers. Please let this 589 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: guy go somewhere else and get a ring. It's not 590 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: happening in Portland. I'm I'm a big believer, and they 591 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: need to start over. I feel like Scoot would be 592 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: the perfect player for them to start over with. Like 593 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: I feel like everything you just said so true. Where 594 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: this kid, you'll grow with him and you'll be the leader. 595 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: And he's the point guard and he's a dog. He's 596 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 2: just such a dog like if you watch his film, 597 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: like you said, he wouldn't right at Victor. There's no 598 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: one that's too big for him. There's no any fears, 599 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: And I love that for kid coming in the NBA. 600 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: He really reminds me of another style. Is not the 601 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: exact same, but he reminds me of d Wade at Marquette. 602 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: D Wade played with the same style. He really throw 603 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: his body at guys. You'd always go really hard the hoop. 604 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: So Brandon, just looking at everything we just talked about. 605 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: If we see Scoot go number two, is that a 606 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan pick? Is that the rumors we're hearing out 607 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: of Charlotte that he's still the one making the pick. 608 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: So I just want to hear your opinion. Would that 609 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: be a Michael Jordan pick? Or is there someone gets 610 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: come in the last minute Charlotte might trade that number 611 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: two pick. Do you think anything like that's gonna happen? 612 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: Or is this going to be Charlotte Charlotte's pick at 613 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: number two? 614 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild to me that. Yeah, we saw news 615 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: today that Michael Jordan apparently gets final say on the pick. 616 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: What are we doing, Michael Jordan has sold the team 617 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: and been horrendous owning the team. It's why we're like, 618 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is the goat. Michael Jordan's the guy, but 619 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: not as an executive, not as an owner. I don't 620 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: know why you'd possibly let mj have the final say 621 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: on it. To me, despite that, it's either Charlotte stays 622 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: at two and takes Brandon Miller. That seems like the 623 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: thing that that's the intel we've seen all along. I 624 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: don't think Charlotte takes Scoot. We just haven't seen them 625 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: in love with him. We've seen from the night of 626 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: the lottery that Miller is their guy. If they stay, 627 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: if it is Scoot at two, I think it has 628 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: to be a trade. I think it's that New Orleans 629 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: or one of these other teams. Toronto has been interested 630 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: teams trying to trade in. We have not heard any 631 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: rumors about TMX is interested in trading up for Brandon Miller. 632 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: No rumors of that. Everybody wants to trade for Scoot. 633 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: Take the hint, Charlotte, what are you deal with me? 634 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: Like when everyone wants the same guy, maybe take the guy. 635 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: Take the Michael Jordan of the draft, not not the 636 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: Sam Bowie, but you know it's Charlotte. As part of 637 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: the fun of these drafts is you get to bank 638 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: on some of these teams being well teams to bet 639 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: against as well. 640 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: Well, here's what's interesting. If you look back in history, 641 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: the Blazers Sam Bouie or Michael Jordan, they take Sam Bouie. 642 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Sam Bouie has a history of injury problems, never becomes 643 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: the player, right they have the chance, Greg Oden or 644 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, they take Greg Oden, history of injury problems, 645 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: never becomes a great player. Kevin Durant, Michael Jordan obviously 646 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: have become who they've become. This year, the Blazers are 647 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: in a position where they don't get the option to 648 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: choose between a potentially generational talent whose body type historically 649 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: breaks down, whether it's Greg Odin, Sam Buie, Yao Ming, 650 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Chet Holmgren, like, the evidence for people like 651 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: that being able to maintain health for a consistent period 652 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: of time in the NBA is clearly against him or 653 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson, who everyone loves. It would be a consensus 654 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: number one just it would be poetic for the Blazers 655 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: to be able to get Scoot Henderson because they can't 656 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: make the wrong choice. Do you know what I mean? 657 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: Between when Ben Yama and Scoot Henderson, they just get 658 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: the guy who is the obvious guy to take if 659 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: they're lucky enough to take them before we let you go. 660 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: I would be remiss and Matt Mitchell would kill me 661 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: if I didn't bring up the fact that there is 662 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: a duo known as the Thompson Twins. And we don't 663 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: mean the eighties pop band with seven top forty hits 664 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: that might sing a song whose chorus goes, We're talking 665 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: about the Thompson Twins. Brandon Anderson. What are we doing 666 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: with those two? 667 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the mystery guys in this draft. These 668 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: are identical twins six foot seven, seven foot wingspand they're 669 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: elite athletes. Aman Thompson is expected to be something like 670 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: a top five athlete in the NBA instantly the moment 671 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: he gets drapped, Like that's the level of athletes we're 672 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: talking about. Asar Thompson, the twin brother like identical twins, 673 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: Like actually impossibly frustrating to watch tape of and Scout 674 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: because you have to watch the jersey number, so you're 675 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: like same thing same look, same style of play, the 676 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 3: way that they dribble, the way that they shoot. It's 677 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: so much as similar here. What's wild is we got 678 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 3: Victor the guy overseas. We've got Brandon Miller, We've got 679 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, he played in college. Even Scoot Henderson g League. 680 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: We can watch those games on ESPN, on streaming whatever. 681 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: The Thompson Twins played in overtime elite. This is a 682 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 3: non collegiate league. This is guys. A lot of them 683 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: are like sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year olds. The Thompson Twins 684 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: are twenty. So we have these hyper athletic twenty year 685 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: olds mashing against sixteen year olds. What do we do 686 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: with that? Like, I know what to tell of the 687 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: tape of that? Like great, So go to the park 688 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: and find some twenty year olds and have them team 689 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: up against some sixteen year olds and see who play 690 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: is like who comes out ahead? Like the athleticism difference 691 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: in body type and age of a four year swing 692 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: at that age is massive. So how do we evaluate that, 693 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: especially when our Thompson Twins, these guys, by the way, 694 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: are going to be almost certain top ten, possibly both 695 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: top five. That's the guys we're talking about here. Overtime 696 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: elites never had a player in their program drafted before. 697 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: They're supposed to have multiple. Last year, none of them 698 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: made it into the draft, even the second round. So 699 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: what do we do. We haven't seen them really have 700 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: a real competition the last couple of years. We haven't 701 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: really seen them have great coaching necessarily or great development 702 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: during these critical years. Amen is the guy that has 703 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 3: the highest ceiling. He's possibly his favored right now to 704 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: go number four to the Houston Rockets. A SAR is 705 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: more of a wing player. Amen might be like a 706 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: Ben Simmons, the kind that actually played the good Ben Simmons, 707 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: the where he plays defense and passes uses his height. 708 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: That's kind of what he is. But like Ben Simmons, 709 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 3: the reason that comp is there is because neither of 710 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: these guys shoots the ball at all. Is really rough 711 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 3: looking right now, and shooting can be developed and come around, 712 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 3: but tough to make your franchise pick the top five. 713 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: I'm a guy that just can't shoot all right now. 714 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: A SAR has the higher floor to me, he's the 715 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: safer choice. He to me, is a guy that has 716 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: the more NBA ready role. He's more of a wing. 717 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: He's more of a complimentary player. He moves the ball along, 718 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 3: plays defense well, defense with the team really well. I 719 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: like to me the fact that Asar has more range 720 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: of outcomes in the draft. Aman Thompson, think about Ben Simmons, 721 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: if that's sort of player, He's like, you have to 722 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: have a very specific team. Simon knows you've got to 723 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 3: have the right dudes around Ben Simmons for that to work. 724 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the injuries and all the 725 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: stuff now good Ben Simmons needs the right guys around 726 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: him because if you can't shoot in the modern MBA 727 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: and you're not a center, everything has to be perfect. 728 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: Amen has very specific teams he can go to or 729 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: teams that might like him. I think Asar plays for 730 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: any team is like Brandon Miller. He's a wing. He's 731 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: a wing that goes out and does all the things 732 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: that you need. So they're fun. We don't know what 733 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 3: they are. They're guys that we're gonna want to watch 734 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: in Summer League, for sure. A bet I like again 735 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: betting an uncertainty. Almand is the guy that has rumored 736 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: to go fourth, possibly fifth, possibly even could be something 737 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: you trade up for I'm gonna bet against it. I'm 738 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: gonna bet on a Sar to go ahead of almend 739 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: bet on the Thompson twins. It's plus two to seventy 740 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: five right now at bet three six five. I'll bet 741 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: on the guy that has less of a hype, but 742 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: many of the scouts feel like he's the more ready 743 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: player and a guy that fits rosters just much more easily. 744 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know about the Eighties band. I can't 745 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: bet on them either way, but I like Asar. I 746 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: like him a little better than Almen. I think he's 747 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: a safer place. So plus two to seventy five to 748 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: go ahead of Almond. It's my final long. 749 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: Shot for the podcast today, all right, So before we 750 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: let you go, recap Scoot Henderson to win Rookie of 751 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: the Year plus four fifty eight bet three soon fading 752 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: Victor Brandon Miller surprise go number four twenty five to 753 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: one at bet three sers five, And now Asser A 754 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Sar Asar Thompson Sar Thompson plus two seventy five to 755 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: go before his brother. Let's do a lightning round. Give 756 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: me some lightning round bets before we let you go. 757 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: All right, So I'm giving out all long shots if 758 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: you want a shorter, more certain hit. One of the 759 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: best over runners I like on the board is Gig Jackson. 760 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: Over twenty six and a half, so in draft terms, 761 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 3: that means picks twenty seventh or lower. G Jackson reclassified 762 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: as one of the youngest guys in draft at South Carolina. 763 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: He is young, and he looked the part. He played young. 764 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: He played immature. He got benched for a stretch of 765 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: the season, and he had a lot of bad body language. 766 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 3: And he's had a lot of rough interview process as well, 767 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: And that stuff matters this time of the year for draft. 768 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 3: You're interviewing, you're interviewing for a job position. I don't 769 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 3: think it's got of all f for him. His agent 770 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 3: also is an agent that has no other NBA players 771 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: currently right now. That matters too. You need to get 772 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: the phone call, you need the connection. So I'll bet 773 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: the over on him. It's minus one sixty, but I'll 774 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: drink the juice on that one. I said last long shot, 775 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 3: But let me give you my longest long shot here, 776 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: Jordan A. Walsh to go first round. If you can 777 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 3: still get it thirty to one, I think I see 778 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 3: it right now. With that, BET's three sixty five is 779 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 3: sixteen to one. Get the longest number you can. Jordan Walsh, 780 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: to me, other than the centers, is the best defender 781 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: in the draft. He's from Arkansas, huge wingspan, reminds me 782 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: of kind of Andre Guidala, guy that can defend maybe 783 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: all five positions on a court. He can't play offense 784 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: at all, does nothing on offense right now, So that's 785 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: why stock is low and why he's not potentially a 786 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: first round pick. He doesn't shoot, doesn't really dribble that well. 787 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: So guys are like, well, he plays defense, but we 788 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: don't have a role for him an offense. This is 789 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: not the NFL. You got to play both both ways. 790 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: You don't get a sub off halfway down the court. 791 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 3: But those sort of guys, if you get the right 792 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 3: fin sometimes your defense is good enough, especially on the ball, 793 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 3: like Walsh could be. You find a way and look 794 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: at the past couple NBA champions, Denver Nuggets had Bruce Brown, 795 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: a guy that nobody could find a spot for, and 796 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: Denver found a spot saying, hey, you know what, defend 797 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: cut to the basket fit in our system. We got offense. 798 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic he'll do the rest. Just watch for the ball. 799 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 3: Can you make it a layup and dunk the ball? 800 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 3: He'll find you. Look at the Golden State Warriors have 801 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: had Gary Payton in a role like that, have had 802 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 3: Andre Wadal a late career, Andreig Goodala doesn't have much offense, 803 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 3: and Draymond Green who doesn't have really any shooting in 804 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 3: your offense. They find the ways to give these guys 805 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: a role enough and then keep their defense on the court. 806 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: So Jordan Walsh thirty to one, sixteen to one, whatever, 807 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 3: the longest number you can get. I've seen him linked 808 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: to Denver, by the way, and just before we came on, 809 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 3: like half an hour ago, the Denver Nuggets just made 810 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 3: a trade. They traded up from the second round. They 811 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 3: now have the number twenty nine pick in the first round. 812 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 3: They're one of the teams that has been linked to 813 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: Jordan Walsh. There's starting to be some breadcrumbs there. This 814 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 3: number is getting shorter. I've seen it as short as 815 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 3: six to one some books. So he's a guy that 816 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: I like a lot, and I think that's my other 817 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: favorite long shot on the board here. 818 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Anderson excellent season with the NBA. We're 819 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: giving you a little bit of time to think before 820 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: we get into the NFL. Simon, I don't know about you. 821 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: I feel fully prepped. 822 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, fired up for the draft. 823 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: I am fired up for the draft. I'm going to 824 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: be there tomorrow night. I'm going to be there. Oh yeah, 825 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to go. 826 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 2: Got the action pass on your neck. 827 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: I guess it will say action, Yes, it will. I'm 828 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, I don't actually I don't know. I don't 829 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: know if I have a ticket. 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