WEBVTT - Ringing the Bells with Dean and Caelynn 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:06.040 This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.320 So we're here, Yeah, we're here at the hotel in Carmel, 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.720 and everybody's we've taken over this. It's very cute, very 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.520 cute seaside hotel. And there's like, I don't know, like 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.720 thirty rooms or something, and we have all of. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.160 Them because there's it has that nice feeling of kind 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:23.480 of like what you guys do with your wedding. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.520 You took over the property and everybody's together. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.760 So Dean and Kayler are here with us, and Lauren 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.640 and I have it's a lovely room, love this hotel. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.040 But our room is when I say it's above the lobby, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.560 you walk up some stairs behind the desk and that's 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.000 our room. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.919 Dean, did you have a mustache yesterday? 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.600 Were you talking about No, I've always had an exposed 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.360 upper lap last night? 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.760 Did you save your must that's so random? Did you 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.080 shave last night or this morning? 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.360 I don't know what you guys are talking about. I've 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.120 always looked like this. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.560 When you look child, you look so young. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.680 I feel like you guys are making like a weird 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.320 joke that I'm not in on right now. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.560 I know for sure, you. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.679 Rode in a golf car with him for seven hours yesterday. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.520 So now I'm like, I feel like a real jerk, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:07.160 and I don't. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.920 The reason that I know is because he was telling 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.959 me step by step how when he pulls on his 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.480 mustache hairs it helps him sneeze. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:14.480 And. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:17.759 I really get in there for the nose. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.760 Why do you need the sneeze? 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.399 Why would you want to make I love sneezing. It's 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.560 one of my favorite things to do. I'm serious. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.160 Sneezing is it's it's it's a fun experience. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.280 You're sneezing on purpose. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.679 So you'll just grab a nose hair and pull its 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.319 just and sometimes I'll do this because you're born. If 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.160 you get it just right, you can make yourself sneez 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.240 Whenever you try to. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.160 Do it right now, you're honestly you just want to sneeze. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.560 No, we're not going to get there too long. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.160 Don't belive that sneezes are like one tenth of mon orgas. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.200 Kind of them rapidly, real quick. You're on cloud nine. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.480 So last night we went to Sadies to see the 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.320 uh the picture, the infamous now picture hanging over the toilet, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.680 and we left I don't around midnight or something like that, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.760 and all of a sudden we can hear everything going 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.280 on in the little lobby, and it's a it's kind 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.280 of an old house, and so we can hear everything. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.240 If someone like clears their throat, we can hear it down. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.440 I don't want to clarify, I'm being honest. We could 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:17.280 not understand anything. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.839 Anyone was saying. It's just you sneezed. We probably would 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:22.320 have distinguished. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.760 I can specifically hear people. So I immediately heard Sarah Hyland, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.320 and I'm like, okay, Sarah, and wells are downstairs. I 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:29.720 didn't know who else, but I could hear there was 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:31.640 a group of people, and I was kind of in 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.560 and out of consciousness, and I was like around two 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.240 in the morning. I still heard the people talking downstairs 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.200 in the lobby, and I'm like, and the last words 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.560 I heard when you guys, and now I know it 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:47.079 was you guys came in Sarah saying whatever you have 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.680 open it. That was in the beginning. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.720 We heard there say if any type of wine. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.520 We were like, and then so how long did you 0:02:58.560 --> 0:02:59.440 guys stay up? 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.840 Well, not me, I went back by myself from the book. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.880 I left Sadies by myself, thinking they were going to 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.880 be shortly up behind me. But then I go to bed, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:08.799 wake up, and then she's just next to me. It's 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.280 actually really funny. I'll like Kaylen answered that question a second. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.200 But she goes to bed at eight thirty pm every 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.160 single night at home, She's always in bed before nine, 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.480 and then whenever she gets together with Sarah, she's staying 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.760 up until three four am. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.920 That's like Ben and Jess. Ben and Jester like that. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.600 Ben's like, yeah, we go to bed at like, oh yeah, 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.520 so you're normally like an eight thirty person. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.200 Yeah, Me and Jester are the same that way. But 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.480 when I'm with Sarah it's the only I don't really 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.440 like to drink a lot, and let like, yeah, unless 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:33.680 you have. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.920 A partner, what is it about Sarah that brings it 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:36.400 out in you? 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.280 In same with Jess, Me and Jess were like, the 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:39.680 only time we ever get drunk is when we were 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.840 with Sarah, and I think I might still be a 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:42.440 little drunk. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.320 She's your muse. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.160 Well, I was just doing the math on if you 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.080 went to bed after three, it's it's nine am. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.320 Now you're not okaying. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.200 Great, and then you guys feeling great to what you 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.280 guys were saying earlier too. We're on the bottom floor, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.040 so whoever is in the room above us was stomping 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.640 around at like five thirty am the time. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.880 Yes, it was a rough. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.320 That was Sarah Wells just getting home. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.560 This has been fun because again, you know, you can 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.520 stay in a big hotel and that's lovely, but we're 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.720 staying at the La Petite Palis and really this really 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.880 is like an old house that wraps around a courtyard, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.840 and so if you go get a cup of coffee 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.599 in the small little lobby, if you hear whatever, you're 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.480 like you're bumping into each other. And anytime we step 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.680 out of our rooms, we're running it. So it's like 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.080 we are a big fit at this family getaway, which 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.880 is kind of cool because we sat this morning and 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.000 we did not intend to do this, but all of 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.680 a sudden we had breakfast with Tarctic and Bob Guiney 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.039 and the Firestone showed up, and then Justin came down 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.960 with his computer, and then. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.000 Dean shaved his mustache in front of everybody, which I'm 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.560 glad we were all this. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.599 I still don't know if that if you're making a 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.120 joke about me or not or or what's going on 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:46.400 with that? 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:51.720 But go you keep talking because photo where they're like, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:52.840 does he have a mustache? Does? 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:53.640 Yes? 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.880 Okay, so Caylen, you stayed up till three am? Do 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.640 you do what happens when my girlfriends and I have 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:00.560 a group trip together. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.000 It's such a bushy mustache? 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:03.960 You guys got me. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.000 Why did you shave it? 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.839 I just felt like, uh like looking fresh, you know, 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:11.080 changing it up a little bit. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:11.960 It does this all the time. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.880 By the way, it's just like I said, I'll speak 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:15.360 for Kailin. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.800 Yeah, you preferred on mustache. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.880 You have a handsome face, handsome. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:19.800 Wow, you guys are too nice. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.400 Yeah, I like no mustache. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:21.760 Yeah. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.880 I was actually just going through random old pictures from 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.480 when I was like in my twenties and stuff, and 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.080 it's I was. We were talking about this the other 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.960 day too. Definitely gotten less attractive, and it's annoying looking 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.240 at you because you've gotten way. I don't want to 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.159 say more handsome, because you've always been handsome, but you, 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:35.840 like I said the other day, you look twenty years younger. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:36.200 Thank you. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.120 That's so nice. I think he was leaving the show. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.800 Yeah, yeah, stress a lot of way. Yeah, what about like, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:43.760 can you do scruff? 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:44.440 Nope? 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.400 Okay, So that's why I do the mustache because I 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.160 got like a weird go tea. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.800 I could see you a scruff. I bet you'd look good. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.120 I wish well, you remember I don't know if you 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.719 remember my father. He has a full beard down like 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.960 a button. Yeah, and my brothers can go crow full. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:55.520 Beards, but not me. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.520 Meems like a patchy guy. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:57.520 I'm a patchy guy. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.200 I think your dad will probably go down as the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.000 most unforgetted dad dad on the show. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.159 Sure, yeah, yeah, well good for good for him, good 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.160 for that. That's probably last time I talked to him. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.800 Actually was on the show really right right around then. Yeah, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:10.480 but now we live. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:11.240 In the same town as it. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.440 Yeah, so do you talk to him or Sammer? 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:13.680 No? 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:13.760 No. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.880 I I was at my friend's dad's sixtieth birthday party 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.039 their day and hit one of my friend's moms was like, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.800 you should go in and like try to mend the 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.200 bridge with your father, and I was like, I really 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.200 don't want to, but you're probably right I should do that. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.680 So one of these days I'm going to stop in 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.320 and say how I do it. I guess he owns 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:29.839 like a health food store in the town that we 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.359 live in, so he'll be easy to find. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.640 Well, you can do it for I mean, I gotta 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:34.960 be honest. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.200 I'm okay with a family estrangement. I really don't like 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.240 when people are like, you have to you have to 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.119 do it. You only have one dad. It's like, cool, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.440 I'm his kid. Like it's always he being to me 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.040 and like I'm his only Well you have brothers. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:47.880 But you know what I'm saying. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.640 I'm like, I have a friend who doesn't speak to 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.040 her mom and I know that she struggles with because 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.960 that's always people's response. And it's like, but that's the parents. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.120 Shouldn't they mend this fence with me? So I don't 0:06:59.160 --> 0:06:59.840 like when people. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.320 Say always brings up a good point, and because she 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.919 always puts things in perspective for me, being my wise 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.159 little buddha, and she's like, well, think about your kids. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.960 Would you do this to your kids? And I'm like, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.920 oh no, it's not no way. There's no way I 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.320 would let Josh or Taylor ever be a strange for me, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.440 I just there's no way. Even if they try, we'll 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.480 let them. I will find you. So you're right, it's 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.320 not on you, and I would just say what I 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.040 was going to say is not you owe it to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.160 yourself or whatever. It's like, if you want to, if 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.880 it's something that you think would give you closure, make 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.680 you happy, give you whatever in your soul, great do it. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.160 If not, you don't owe it to anybody. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:36.880 Yeah, well it's tough. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.360 Well because Kaylen's biological dad is kind of the same way, 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:40.880 Like we don't really talk to either of them. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:41.720 But it's tough. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.360 I like when he's dead in twenty years or whatever 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.000 it is, you know, I like, well, I regret not 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.720 having a relationship with him maybe a little bit. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.760 So that's the point, right, It's that's the thing. It's 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.840 it's only on you. How do you think you will 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.240 feel what will be? You know, if you feel like 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:55.680 that's going to leave a big hole and now I'm 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.160 gonna have great regret, then do it. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.360 It's I think it's whatever is going to give you peace. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.720 I am an advocate for that, like your personal piece. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.600 So if you feel like there's something unsaid that you 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.800 need to say, I have another friend who stopped talking 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:09.280 to her dad. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:10.160 This is like more. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.600 Common than people think, by the way, I'm like, let 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:16.320 normalize it, but it is. Yeah, And she told us 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.800 on our recent girls trip and she said, you know, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.440 I really came to the realization. She's like, and her 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.280 mom still talks to the parents are divorce, but she 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.400 was like, my mom wants me to make up with him. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.600 And my mom kept telling me, you know, if he 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.560 dies tomorrow, you're going to regret it, and she goes, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.440 I realized I would not. She's like, it was not 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.600 a great dad to me, and if he died tomorrow, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.120 I wouldn't there wouldn't be. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.840 But society puts that on you. I mean, so, I mean, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.000 do you feel that pressure, Klin with your family, Like 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.840 society puts this pressure of like you owe it to 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.880 yourself and them to do this and to have this 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.679 relationship that, by the way, it's like, why would I 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.000 enter into a relationship I know is toxic. I know 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.280 his I'm getting nothing from this. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.120 Same with my older brothers just had babies and the 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.040 one of them is expecting their second child. No words 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.320 for my dad. You know, I don't even know if 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.320 he has their phone numbers anymore. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:08.000 But yeah, I don't know. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.200 We'll see and I can't I just like Lauren says, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.800 She's like, could you fathom I was like, yeah, I 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.559 couldn't fathom Josher Taylor having a baby and not being 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.920 there right, so kicked me out of the room. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.880 Well, I know you guys don't have kids, but if 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.640 you thought about that, like if you have kids, I'm 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.800 just curious because I would imagine this is something that 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.800 has bonded you to, like you relate to each other 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.439 over it. And I would imagine also that even though 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.520 you don't have kids, but you can picture now if 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.640 you had kids, you would not be this way. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.439 Well, one of the reasons it was always kind of 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.120 anti kid was because I didn't want to be like 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.120 my dad, and so I didn't want to like have 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.680 to put my kids through that. But then my brothers 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.040 had their kids, and they're fantastic fathers, like the best, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.160 most loving dads of all time, and so that's kind 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.680 of like reinvigorated my spark to want to have kids. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.040 So it was weird seeing them have their children is 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.439 what inspired me to want to eventually have our own, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:56.640 I guess. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.960 Yeah, And just like the relationship that you have with 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.920 your dad, Like I know Dean's going to be such 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.400 an amazing dad the way he is, like as as 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.200 an uncle right now, but also in spite of your 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.720 dad kind of any Yeah. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:08.360 That's how my brothers do it. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.160 They're like, every time I think about what it takes 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.959 to be a good dad, I just do the opposite 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:13.679 of what our dad did. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:14.720 Or like that. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.560 You know, Laura again, Laura and I have these conversations 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.440 a lot. You are not your dad, yeah, and you 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.200 are not your mom either one of you. Right, it's 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.960 you know, they don't They don't even necessarily define who 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.720 you are. You know, you get things from them, you 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.640 learn things from them, but that doesn't mean you are them. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.840 My kids are not me, Like, they're not identical to 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.920 me in any way, either one of them. They're both 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.959 incredible human beings, but they're not me and so and 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.440 I'm not my mom or dad and so I guess 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.720 to you, I mean, I can tell I agree with Kaylin. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.240 You are such a loving, caring, doting person. You have that, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.120 you have empathy, you have grace, you have love. Like 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.240 I don't know your dad. I know you're not him. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.440 You know, I agree, I know you're going to be 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.440 a good father. I could just I could you with 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.120 the kid a boy or girl and being such a great. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.599 Dand yeah, I really want a girl, is what I was. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.520 What I girl, That's funny, I guess I was like, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.319 I could see you being a great girl girl dad? 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:09.480 Yeah, why is that? 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.400 I just know how much of a I was when 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.240 I was a kid and still boys. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.959 For that reason, Yeah, I was crazy. Yeah, wow you too, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.679 really you know, because weird. I Please don't take this 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.200 in the wrong way at all. But I was thinking, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:20.800 first of all, I. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.400 Told Kalen yesterday, I'm like, wow, that is like so 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.360 different than I remember him being a couple of years ago. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.559 And when we did the interview on the carpet in 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.920 Las Vegas. I'm too different than. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.720 That, totally housed and I remember being like, do you 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.120 want this interview to go live? 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.520 And you were like, yes, yes I do. And I was. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:46.400 Saying he was like okay, So like but by the way, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.080 I wouldn't pretend like I didn't really know you then 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:48.800 I'd interviewed you. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.960 But so it's spending this couple of days with you. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.079 I said to Kleen last night, like, I mean, wow, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.480 I would imagine it's the Kleen influence because two minutes 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.079 ago and Chris asked you a question, you kind of 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:00.920 explained it and then turned Keilan said. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.040 I guess like, like, right, honey, that's what we think. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.160 But obviously I've grown up on your own. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.120 But I love the influence you guys have on each other, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.440 And just from interviewing you both briefly from the show 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:16.320 at that time, I never would have shipped this, And 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.960 do you guys look back and think like whoa? But 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.319 also it's surprising how much you have in common and 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.600 like like did you see that from the beginning or 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.400 did it take a minute to realize WHOA? We kind 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.080 of are really similar and we work well together. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.160 It took a minute. I mean I had a crush 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.559 on him. It's been like eight years since he was 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.920 on the show. I slid into his DMS eight plus 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.200 years ago and. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.800 Eight years ago seven. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:44.280 Yes, I always had the biggest crush on him, But 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.280 then knowing him and being on Paradise, I'm like, obviously, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.400 I'm so infatuated, infatuated with him and and love being 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.560 around him, but I never thought it would work. And 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.280 then he dumbed me, and then I was like, you know, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.240 the first few months of our relationship, terrified he's going 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.000 to dump me again. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:58.439 And I tried to get to you jump out of 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.040 your plane and you. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.360 Said no, yeah, Flare's that as well. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.520 There are couples in this franchise and people always say, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.079 you know, did you know or could you see it? 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.439 You know, like a Jayden Tanner that was a layup right. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.720 You know we all watched that day one, like, Okay, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.200 show's over, you guys, same thing. It's not that I 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.400 wouldn't ship it. I just couldn't imagine it. I couldn't 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.400 see it. I'm like, it was like oil and water. 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:32.960 I'm like, how is this going to work? And it's 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.040 not that I knew either one of you that well, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.960 it was just my thirty thousand foot level. But that's 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.000 one of the beautiful things about love and even back 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.080 in the day when the show was so pure and good, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.960 is that things like this could happen. And I absolutely 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.920 the more I've got to know you guys and spend time, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.040 and I even enjoyed just hanging out with Dean yesterday, 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.720 and I feel like I've got to know you a 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.520 lot more just in this weekend, which I've really enjoyed 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.840 is just you guys are such a love and I 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.480 love the way y'all talk about each other. And I 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.200 said this to Dean. We did a podcast with with Ben. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.880 I've always appreciated it. And where were we when we 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.760 had a conversation. We were all standing together, the three 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.240 of us, and you were the way you were talking 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.200 about Dean. I was like, where is he? And You're like, oh, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.360 he's in Tanzania or he's in you gotta whatever. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.320 And I was like, I was in Pakistan. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.600 Where were we Talking's wedding? 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.800 Okay, we're well, that's right where Wells and Sarah's wedding. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.360 And that's when that was the first time I even 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.080 got to kind of dive in with you on this relationship. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.440 And I was like, I left thinking I really appreciate 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.920 how a she stood up for him in an appreciative 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.880 way of like she just said, her husband's in Pakistan. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.800 That's insane. He shouldn't be in Pakistan. But she was 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.000 really excited for you, and and there was a lot 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.680 of love in your voice and the way you were 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.840 talking about Dean. And I said this to Dean. I 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.400 was like, I really like the way she loves him 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.360 because she's not trying to change him. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.960 Yeah, that trip was actually really funny because I was 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:05.239 hiking through the mountains in Pakistan and we were so isolated, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.720 and Pakistan's already kind of isolated. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.080 But anybody have that on their twenty twenty four car, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.000 I'll take hiking in Pakistan for five hundred. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.680 It was like a twelve day hike through like you know, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.600 one hundred plus. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.320 Mile find you someone died on that hike, and. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.800 Someone died on that We passed by a corpse, which 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.560 was pretty morbid to talk about more morbidness. But on 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.920 like the second day or something, I was talking to 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.040 the trip organizer and he was like, yeah, you know, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.720 that's why I made everyone get insurance and halivac insurance 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:33.560 like all this stuff. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.160 And I was like, oh, yeah, we were we supposed 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:36.480 to get that. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.000