1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: So we're here, Yeah, we're here at the hotel in Carmel, 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: and everybody's we've taken over this. It's very cute, very 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: cute seaside hotel. And there's like, I don't know, like 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: thirty rooms or something, and we have all of. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Them because there's it has that nice feeling of kind 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: of like what you guys do with your wedding. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: You took over the property and everybody's together. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: So Dean and Kayler are here with us, and Lauren 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: and I have it's a lovely room, love this hotel. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: But our room is when I say it's above the lobby, 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: you walk up some stairs behind the desk and that's 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: our room. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: Dean, did you have a mustache yesterday? 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: Were you talking about No, I've always had an exposed 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: upper lap last night? 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Did you save your must that's so random? Did you 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: shave last night or this morning? 19 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 5: I don't know what you guys are talking about. I've 20 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 5: always looked like this. 21 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: When you look child, you look so young. 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: I feel like you guys are making like a weird 23 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: joke that I'm not in on right now. 24 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I know for sure, you. 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Rode in a golf car with him for seven hours yesterday. 26 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: So now I'm like, I feel like a real jerk, 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: and I don't. 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: The reason that I know is because he was telling 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: me step by step how when he pulls on his 30 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: mustache hairs it helps him sneeze. 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 6: And. 32 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 5: I really get in there for the nose. 33 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Why do you need the sneeze? 34 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 5: Why would you want to make I love sneezing. It's 35 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 5: one of my favorite things to do. I'm serious. 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: Sneezing is it's it's it's a fun experience. 37 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: You're sneezing on purpose. 38 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: So you'll just grab a nose hair and pull its 39 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: just and sometimes I'll do this because you're born. If 40 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: you get it just right, you can make yourself sneez 41 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: Whenever you try to. 42 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Do it right now, you're honestly you just want to sneeze. 43 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: No, we're not going to get there too long. 44 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Don't belive that sneezes are like one tenth of mon orgas. 45 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 5: Kind of them rapidly, real quick. You're on cloud nine. 46 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: So last night we went to Sadies to see the 47 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: uh the picture, the infamous now picture hanging over the toilet, 48 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: and we left I don't around midnight or something like that, 49 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we can hear everything going 50 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: on in the little lobby, and it's a it's kind 51 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: of an old house, and so we can hear everything. 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: If someone like clears their throat, we can hear it down. 53 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to clarify, I'm being honest. We could 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: not understand anything. 55 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: Anyone was saying. It's just you sneezed. We probably would 56 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: have distinguished. 57 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: I can specifically hear people. So I immediately heard Sarah Hyland, 58 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, Sarah, and wells are downstairs. I 59 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't know who else, but I could hear there was 60 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: a group of people, and I was kind of in 61 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and out of consciousness, and I was like around two 62 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: in the morning. I still heard the people talking downstairs 63 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: in the lobby, and I'm like, and the last words 64 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I heard when you guys, and now I know it 65 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: was you guys came in Sarah saying whatever you have 66 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: open it. That was in the beginning. 67 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: We heard there say if any type of wine. 68 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: We were like, and then so how long did you 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: guys stay up? 70 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: Well, not me, I went back by myself from the book. 71 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: I left Sadies by myself, thinking they were going to 72 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: be shortly up behind me. But then I go to bed, 73 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 4: wake up, and then she's just next to me. It's 74 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: actually really funny. I'll like Kaylen answered that question a second. 75 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: But she goes to bed at eight thirty pm every 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: single night at home, She's always in bed before nine, 77 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: and then whenever she gets together with Sarah, she's staying 78 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: up until three four am. 79 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: That's like Ben and Jess. Ben and Jester like that. 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Ben's like, yeah, we go to bed at like, oh yeah, 81 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: so you're normally like an eight thirty person. 82 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, Me and Jester are the same that way. But 83 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 7: when I'm with Sarah it's the only I don't really 84 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 7: like to drink a lot, and let like, yeah, unless 85 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 7: you have. 86 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: A partner, what is it about Sarah that brings it 87 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: out in you? 88 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 7: In same with Jess, Me and Jess were like, the 89 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 7: only time we ever get drunk is when we were 90 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 7: with Sarah, and I think I might still be a 91 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 7: little drunk. 92 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: She's your muse. 93 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: Well, I was just doing the math on if you 94 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: went to bed after three, it's it's nine am. 95 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: Now you're not okaying. 96 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: Great, and then you guys feeling great to what you 97 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: guys were saying earlier too. We're on the bottom floor, 98 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: so whoever is in the room above us was stomping 99 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: around at like five thirty am the time. 100 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: Yes, it was a rough. 101 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: That was Sarah Wells just getting home. 102 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: This has been fun because again, you know, you can 103 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: stay in a big hotel and that's lovely, but we're 104 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: staying at the La Petite Palis and really this really 105 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: is like an old house that wraps around a courtyard, 106 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: and so if you go get a cup of coffee 107 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: in the small little lobby, if you hear whatever, you're 108 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: like you're bumping into each other. And anytime we step 109 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: out of our rooms, we're running it. So it's like 110 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: we are a big fit at this family getaway, which 111 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: is kind of cool because we sat this morning and 112 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: we did not intend to do this, but all of 113 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a sudden we had breakfast with Tarctic and Bob Guiney 114 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: and the Firestone showed up, and then Justin came down 115 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: with his computer, and then. 116 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Dean shaved his mustache in front of everybody, which I'm 117 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: glad we were all this. 118 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: I still don't know if that if you're making a 119 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: joke about me or not or or what's going on 120 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: with that? 121 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 7: But go you keep talking because photo where they're like, 122 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 7: does he have a mustache? Does? 123 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 124 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so Caylen, you stayed up till three am? Do 125 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: you do what happens when my girlfriends and I have 126 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: a group trip together. 127 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: It's such a bushy mustache? 128 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: You guys got me. 129 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: Why did you shave it? 130 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: I just felt like, uh like looking fresh, you know, 131 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: changing it up a little bit. 132 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 7: It does this all the time. 133 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: By the way, it's just like I said, I'll speak 134 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: for Kailin. 135 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you preferred on mustache. 136 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: You have a handsome face, handsome. 137 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: Wow, you guys are too nice. 138 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like no mustache. 139 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 140 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: I was actually just going through random old pictures from 141 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: when I was like in my twenties and stuff, and 142 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: it's I was. We were talking about this the other 143 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: day too. Definitely gotten less attractive, and it's annoying looking 144 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: at you because you've gotten way. I don't want to 145 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: say more handsome, because you've always been handsome, but you, 146 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: like I said the other day, you look twenty years younger. 147 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 148 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: That's so nice. I think he was leaving the show. 149 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stress a lot of way. Yeah, what about like, 150 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: can you do scruff? 151 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: Nope? 152 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's why I do the mustache because I 153 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: got like a weird go tea. 154 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I could see you a scruff. I bet you'd look good. 155 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: I wish well, you remember I don't know if you 156 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: remember my father. He has a full beard down like 157 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: a button. Yeah, and my brothers can go crow full. 158 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: Beards, but not me. 159 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: Meems like a patchy guy. 160 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: I'm a patchy guy. 161 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I think your dad will probably go down as the 162 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: most unforgetted dad dad on the show. 163 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, yeah, well good for good for him, good 164 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: for that. That's probably last time I talked to him. 165 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: Actually was on the show really right right around then. Yeah, 166 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: but now we live. 167 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 7: In the same town as it. 168 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so do you talk to him or Sammer? 169 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: No? 170 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 6: No. 171 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: I I was at my friend's dad's sixtieth birthday party 172 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: their day and hit one of my friend's moms was like, 173 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: you should go in and like try to mend the 174 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: bridge with your father, and I was like, I really 175 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: don't want to, but you're probably right I should do that. 176 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: So one of these days I'm going to stop in 177 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: and say how I do it. I guess he owns 178 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: like a health food store in the town that we 179 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 4: live in, so he'll be easy to find. 180 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: Well, you can do it for I mean, I gotta 181 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: be honest. 182 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm okay with a family estrangement. I really don't like 183 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: when people are like, you have to you have to 184 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 2: do it. You only have one dad. It's like, cool, 185 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm his kid. Like it's always he being to me 186 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: and like I'm his only Well you have brothers. 187 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying. 188 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I have a friend who doesn't speak to 189 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: her mom and I know that she struggles with because 190 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: that's always people's response. And it's like, but that's the parents. 191 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: Shouldn't they mend this fence with me? So I don't 192 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: like when people. 193 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Say always brings up a good point, and because she 194 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: always puts things in perspective for me, being my wise 195 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: little buddha, and she's like, well, think about your kids. 196 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Would you do this to your kids? And I'm like, 197 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: oh no, it's not no way. There's no way I 198 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: would let Josh or Taylor ever be a strange for me, 199 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I just there's no way. Even if they try, we'll 200 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: let them. I will find you. So you're right, it's 201 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: not on you, and I would just say what I 202 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: was going to say is not you owe it to 203 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: yourself or whatever. It's like, if you want to, if 204 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: it's something that you think would give you closure, make 205 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you happy, give you whatever in your soul, great do it. 206 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: If not, you don't owe it to anybody. 207 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's tough. 208 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: Well because Kaylen's biological dad is kind of the same way, 209 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: Like we don't really talk to either of them. 210 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: But it's tough. 211 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: I like when he's dead in twenty years or whatever 212 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: it is, you know, I like, well, I regret not 213 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: having a relationship with him maybe a little bit. 214 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: So that's the point, right, It's that's the thing. It's 215 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: it's only on you. How do you think you will 216 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: feel what will be? You know, if you feel like 217 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: that's going to leave a big hole and now I'm 218 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna have great regret, then do it. 219 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: It's I think it's whatever is going to give you peace. 220 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: I am an advocate for that, like your personal piece. 221 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: So if you feel like there's something unsaid that you 222 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: need to say, I have another friend who stopped talking 223 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: to her dad. 224 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: This is like more. 225 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Common than people think, by the way, I'm like, let 226 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: normalize it, but it is. Yeah, And she told us 227 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: on our recent girls trip and she said, you know, 228 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: I really came to the realization. She's like, and her 229 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: mom still talks to the parents are divorce, but she 230 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: was like, my mom wants me to make up with him. 231 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: And my mom kept telling me, you know, if he 232 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: dies tomorrow, you're going to regret it, and she goes, 233 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: I realized I would not. She's like, it was not 234 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: a great dad to me, and if he died tomorrow, 235 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't there wouldn't be. 236 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: But society puts that on you. I mean, so, I mean, 237 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: do you feel that pressure, Klin with your family, Like 238 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: society puts this pressure of like you owe it to 239 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: yourself and them to do this and to have this 240 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: relationship that, by the way, it's like, why would I 241 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: enter into a relationship I know is toxic. I know 242 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: his I'm getting nothing from this. 243 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: Same with my older brothers just had babies and the 244 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: one of them is expecting their second child. No words 245 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: for my dad. You know, I don't even know if 246 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: he has their phone numbers anymore. 247 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know. 248 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: We'll see and I can't I just like Lauren says, 249 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: She's like, could you fathom I was like, yeah, I 250 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: couldn't fathom Josher Taylor having a baby and not being 251 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: there right, so kicked me out of the room. 252 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: Well, I know you guys don't have kids, but if 253 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: you thought about that, like if you have kids, I'm 254 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: just curious because I would imagine this is something that 255 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: has bonded you to, like you relate to each other 256 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: over it. And I would imagine also that even though 257 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: you don't have kids, but you can picture now if 258 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: you had kids, you would not be this way. 259 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 4: Well, one of the reasons it was always kind of 260 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: anti kid was because I didn't want to be like 261 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: my dad, and so I didn't want to like have 262 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: to put my kids through that. But then my brothers 263 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: had their kids, and they're fantastic fathers, like the best, 264 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: most loving dads of all time, and so that's kind 265 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 4: of like reinvigorated my spark to want to have kids. 266 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: So it was weird seeing them have their children is 267 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: what inspired me to want to eventually have our own, 268 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: I guess. 269 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, And just like the relationship that you have with 270 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 7: your dad, Like I know Dean's going to be such 271 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 7: an amazing dad the way he is, like as as 272 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 7: an uncle right now, but also in spite of your 273 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: dad kind of any Yeah. 274 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 5: That's how my brothers do it. 275 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: They're like, every time I think about what it takes 276 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: to be a good dad, I just do the opposite 277 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: of what our dad did. 278 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 5: Or like that. 279 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, Laura again, Laura and I have these conversations 280 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: a lot. You are not your dad, yeah, and you 281 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: are not your mom either one of you. Right, it's 282 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, they don't They don't even necessarily define who 283 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: you are. You know, you get things from them, you 284 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: learn things from them, but that doesn't mean you are them. 285 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: My kids are not me, Like, they're not identical to 286 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: me in any way, either one of them. They're both 287 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: incredible human beings, but they're not me and so and 288 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm not my mom or dad and so I guess 289 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: to you, I mean, I can tell I agree with Kaylin. 290 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: You are such a loving, caring, doting person. You have that, 291 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: you have empathy, you have grace, you have love. Like 292 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't know your dad. I know you're not him. 293 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, I agree, I know you're going to be 294 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: a good father. I could just I could you with 295 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: the kid a boy or girl and being such a great. 296 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 5: Dand yeah, I really want a girl, is what I was. 297 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: What I girl, That's funny, I guess I was like, 298 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: I could see you being a great girl girl dad? 299 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, why is that? 300 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: I just know how much of a I was when 301 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: I was a kid and still boys. 302 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: For that reason, Yeah, I was crazy. Yeah, wow you too, 303 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: really you know, because weird. I Please don't take this 304 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: in the wrong way at all. But I was thinking, 305 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: first of all, I. 306 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: Told Kalen yesterday, I'm like, wow, that is like so 307 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: different than I remember him being a couple of years ago. 308 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: And when we did the interview on the carpet in 309 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I'm too different than. 310 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: That, totally housed and I remember being like, do you 311 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: want this interview to go live? 312 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: And you were like, yes, yes I do. And I was. 313 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Saying he was like okay, So like but by the way, 314 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't pretend like I didn't really know you then 315 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: I'd interviewed you. 316 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: But so it's spending this couple of days with you. 317 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: I said to Kleen last night, like, I mean, wow, 318 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: I would imagine it's the Kleen influence because two minutes 319 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: ago and Chris asked you a question, you kind of 320 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: explained it and then turned Keilan said. 321 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: I guess like, like, right, honey, that's what we think. 322 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: But obviously I've grown up on your own. 323 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: But I love the influence you guys have on each other, 324 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: And just from interviewing you both briefly from the show 325 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: at that time, I never would have shipped this, And 326 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: do you guys look back and think like whoa? But 327 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: also it's surprising how much you have in common and 328 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: like like did you see that from the beginning or 329 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: did it take a minute to realize WHOA? We kind 330 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: of are really similar and we work well together. 331 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 7: It took a minute. I mean I had a crush 332 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 7: on him. It's been like eight years since he was 333 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 7: on the show. I slid into his DMS eight plus 334 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 7: years ago and. 335 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: Eight years ago seven. 336 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 7: Yes, I always had the biggest crush on him, But 337 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 7: then knowing him and being on Paradise, I'm like, obviously, 338 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: I'm so infatuated, infatuated with him and and love being 339 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 7: around him, but I never thought it would work. And 340 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 7: then he dumbed me, and then I was like, you know, 341 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 7: the first few months of our relationship, terrified he's going 342 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: to dump me again. 343 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 5: And I tried to get to you jump out of 344 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: your plane and you. 345 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: Said no, yeah, Flare's that as well. 346 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: There are couples in this franchise and people always say, 347 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: you know, did you know or could you see it? 348 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: You know, like a Jayden Tanner that was a layup right. 349 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: You know we all watched that day one, like, Okay, 350 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: show's over, you guys, same thing. It's not that I 351 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't ship it. I just couldn't imagine it. I couldn't 352 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: see it. I'm like, it was like oil and water. 353 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, how is this going to work? And it's 354 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: not that I knew either one of you that well, 355 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: it was just my thirty thousand foot level. But that's 356 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: one of the beautiful things about love and even back 357 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: in the day when the show was so pure and good, 358 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: is that things like this could happen. And I absolutely 359 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: the more I've got to know you guys and spend time, 360 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: and I even enjoyed just hanging out with Dean yesterday, 361 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: and I feel like I've got to know you a 362 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: lot more just in this weekend, which I've really enjoyed 363 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: is just you guys are such a love and I 364 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: love the way y'all talk about each other. And I 365 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: said this to Dean. We did a podcast with with Ben. 366 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: I've always appreciated it. And where were we when we 367 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: had a conversation. We were all standing together, the three 368 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: of us, and you were the way you were talking 369 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: about Dean. I was like, where is he? And You're like, oh, 370 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: he's in Tanzania or he's in you gotta whatever. 371 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: And I was like, I was in Pakistan. 372 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Where were we Talking's wedding? 373 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Okay, we're well, that's right where Wells and Sarah's wedding. 374 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: And that's when that was the first time I even 375 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: got to kind of dive in with you on this relationship. 376 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, I left thinking I really appreciate 377 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: how a she stood up for him in an appreciative 378 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: way of like she just said, her husband's in Pakistan. 379 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: That's insane. He shouldn't be in Pakistan. But she was 380 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: really excited for you, and and there was a lot 381 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: of love in your voice and the way you were 382 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: talking about Dean. And I said this to Dean. I 383 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: was like, I really like the way she loves him 384 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: because she's not trying to change him. 385 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that trip was actually really funny because I was 386 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,239 Speaker 4: hiking through the mountains in Pakistan and we were so isolated, 387 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: and Pakistan's already kind of isolated. 388 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: But anybody have that on their twenty twenty four car, 389 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I'll take hiking in Pakistan for five hundred. 390 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: It was like a twelve day hike through like you know, 391 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: one hundred plus. 392 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 7: Mile find you someone died on that hike, and. 393 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: Someone died on that We passed by a corpse, which 394 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: was pretty morbid to talk about more morbidness. But on 395 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: like the second day or something, I was talking to 396 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: the trip organizer and he was like, yeah, you know, 397 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: that's why I made everyone get insurance and halivac insurance 398 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: like all this stuff. 399 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, yeah, we were we supposed 400 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: to get that. 401 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: He goes, he goes, yeah, you didn't get that, and 402 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: he was like got so mad at me. He's like, no, 403 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: you need to have these things in order for us 404 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: to continue on. And we're like, you know, we're three 405 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: days up into the mountains at this point, and I 406 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: like get on the satellite phone and I text Kyler 407 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: real quick and I was like, hey, I just got 408 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: in a lot of trouble with the with the guy. 409 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: Will you please get me like flight for flight for 410 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: life insurance and something else, and she was like twenty 411 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: minutes there. She was like, yeah, done, here's your insurance 412 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: information and everything like that. 413 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I took out a ten million dollar policy enjoy Pakistan. Yeah, 414 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: don't feel like you need to make it pack. 415 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: I mean, in hindsight, did it I need it? 416 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: No? 417 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: I didn't. So we could have saved ourselves on a 418 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: hundred bucks and I've gotten it. 419 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: But it feels worthy. One hundred feels worthy. Yeah, more 420 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: expensive than that. Actually, it feels good considering you want to. 421 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: Have kids and stuff. 422 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: You knew what you were taking on. And this is 423 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: this is interesting because a lot of women would not 424 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: do this. It's the action, the adventure. Falling in love 425 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: with that is easy. Living with it is not because 426 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: then the reality of oh crap, he really does live 427 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: in a van he sets in. But I like that 428 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: you have always embraced that, because a lot of women 429 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: would be like, great, I loved what I fell in 430 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: love with, but now I want to domesticate that and 431 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: change that. 432 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Have you always embraced it or were there any moments 433 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't know, I'm. 434 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 7: Like waiting for Dean to cut it and be like, oh, 435 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 7: sometimes I try to just rein it in a little bit. 436 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Yes, well that's actually healthy, Yeah, because he probably does 437 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: need to be rained in a little bit. 438 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: I'd probably go crazy marrying someone that was exactly like me. 439 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: So it's nice to have like the both all the 440 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: bases covered. 441 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 7: I guess insane, like I've changed so much and grown 442 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 7: so much being married to him or being with him 443 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 7: for five years. Like I was so high strung and 444 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 7: such a pageant girl and still am a little high stuck. 445 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: But but I'm working on it. 446 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you got a pageant girl getting insurance? 447 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: Man? 448 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: You really one big yeah? 449 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, I'm doing like the math on your 450 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: like I we would have kids. I want to have 451 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: all girls. I'm hiking in Pakistan. Have you guys talked 452 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: about like, will you reel it in it all? If 453 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: for when you have kids, are you going to continue 454 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: the adventures? 455 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: We're already kind of relling it in now because we 456 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: just bought this house in Colorado. 457 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Set down roots, Yeah, set down some congratulations, by the way, 458 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's great. 459 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: It was a little out of my budget personally, so 460 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: now we're like tapering it back a little bit. 461 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: It always will be. Yeah, you know, that's my advice to anybody. 462 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: It's like, just know that your house, whatever you're buying, 463 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: it's going to be whatever the number you had in mind. 464 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: It's more, but it's okay, Like it is like, you'll 465 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: make it work. It's like, and I'm not saying live 466 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: beyond your means, but it always is. Yeah, Like, yeah, 467 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: even if you said I want the million dollar house, 468 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: it's one point five. 469 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: Well, Ran was just saying he wash. She had spent 470 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars on life insure, so I don't know, 471 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: it's low. 472 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: It's don't like spending money on these Yeah, Pakistan, I guess. 473 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: We can have the kids in this van. Come on. 474 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm interested if your economics will chicks it. 475 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, again, you and I have that conversation. Yeah, 476 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you. You know, 477 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Dean and I discussed this the other night is when 478 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: we were on the beach at Paradise. It was like 479 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: three or four in the morning during right before a 480 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: rose ceremony and men Dean looked at me, and you know, 481 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm standing there in my suit, just dead tired, and 482 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, it was monsoon season. The 483 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: crabs are crawling all over us. And he's like, essentially, 484 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: why are you here, like if you like you have 485 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: enough money to retire, right, And I was like yeah, technically, 486 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: and he's like what are you doing here? Like why 487 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just walk away? And he's like, I 488 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: would be gone. And so it was just funny, and 489 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: it's like it's a question that's stuck with me and 490 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: it's lived with me. And we talked in depth about that. 491 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: Wow, the effect. 492 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: But what I'm curious of soubertin effect is if if 493 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: your thoughts have changed about living life on the edge 494 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I'll make this much money as an influencer, 495 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: and i have enough money to kind of live for 496 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: a year. I'll go to Pakistan. Now I'll kind of 497 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: shut it down. Have you thought more about, Okay, if 498 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I want to bring another bring a child into this 499 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: world and build this family, if like, okay, now I 500 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: need to kind of build a nest egg, I need 501 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: to for. 502 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 4: Sure, Well, I always think that the influencing thing is temporary, 503 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: and I think it'd be crazy to assume otherwise, you know, 504 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: So now we you see, to figure out what we're 505 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 4: going to do once that well runs dry. I'm just 506 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: saying yes to every deal right now and trying to 507 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: like collect enough money to at least let us skirt 508 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: by for a while. But it's so it's the root 509 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 4: of one hundred percent of my stress. 510 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 7: Finances, and like, going back to insurance, my stress is 511 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 7: coming from like because we have to buy our own 512 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 7: insurance and pay for it, and our deductible is seventeen 513 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 7: thousand dollars and monthly is so expensive. So I'm like, 514 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 7: when I have to go to all these doctors appointments, 515 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 7: what the heck are we going to do? 516 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: That's my stress right now. 517 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, finances are always it is. It's it's a huge burden. 518 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: You know. 519 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: You said something the other day and not an argument 520 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: we were having. I don't know what the right word. 521 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: Is, but. 522 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you said something like. 523 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: You don't understand the like you you were like, I've 524 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: always like been the caretaker, Like he was like, I've 525 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: always had the stress of the caretaking. And when I 526 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: really stopped and thought about it, I was like yeah, 527 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: I have to own that he totally has like in 528 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: your first marriage, in our relationship, now you have your kids, 529 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: you help take care of your parents like other people. 530 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: And I've really tried to take that in and not 531 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: to like stereotype. 532 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: But I do think still in a lot of relationships. 533 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean I've talked to my friends about it, Like 534 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: I think men feel that a lot, or whoever the 535 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: breadwinner is. 536 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know if like. 537 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Do you guys feel like you share that, like you 538 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: just said, it's the source of all your stress? 539 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: Is this this is big right now for you? Yeah? 540 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if our relationship, like I would be 541 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: the you and your relationship, you know, like she's the 542 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: red winner. She does all of the she does all 543 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: the planning and the logistics, and she takes care of everything. 544 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 5: And I'm just kind of like, yeah, sure, why not. 545 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 8: So I don't know if that necessarily Well, there's one, Yeah, 546 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 8: there's one who's like Chris is totally the person who's 547 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 8: looking at the bills and looking at the insurance and 548 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 8: what we told you guys this the other day as 549 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 8: we're waiting for our uber, I thought the other day 550 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 8: I thought he told me that he got a life 551 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 8: insurance policy on me. 552 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Lauren just learned. She thought I had been going at 553 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Great Links to get in before we got married, to 554 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: get insurance policy on her. And then we're standing at 555 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the airport with Dean and Kaylin and she's talking about this, 556 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: and I said, Babe, you realize that insurance policy I 557 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: just got is on me. It's if something happens to me, 558 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: if I die. 559 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 560 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you. 561 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: What sparked that for you to get that? 562 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Well, because because my kids are taken care of, you know, again, 563 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: it's as Lauren said, I've since you know, I college, 564 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: I've I've lived alone. I was on my own and 565 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: I've paid for everything. So whether it was rent turns 566 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: into mortgage and insurance and credit, you name it, it's 567 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: always just been on my plate. And so you know, 568 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: it's always been I wouldn't say a burden, it's just life, right. 569 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: And so once I had kids, you know, I established 570 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: accounts for them and insurance and stuff, and especially once 571 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: I got divorced, once I became a single dad, it 572 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: was very important because I was still taking care of 573 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: my ex and taking care of my kids and trying 574 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: to take care of myself and my you know, other 575 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: parts of my family, and so I had to kind 576 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: of move things around and make sure that no matter 577 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: what happens to my ex and I, my kids are 578 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: always taking care of because they were still young. I mean, 579 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm back when we got divorced. There nine 580 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: and eleven years. 581 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: Old, nonhing, do you know them? 582 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: Then? I met him when. 583 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty young, It's seven eight years ago? 584 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: Long have you been doing so? 585 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: When? 586 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: Wow? 587 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: I know. When Kelen said eight years ago, I was like, 588 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 5: are you. 589 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: Sure, Dean and I are over here? Like what year 590 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: is that? You guys are like, so the insurance okay, 591 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: but yeah, and so you know there have to be 592 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: better Dean. 593 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: We precipitated this to answer your question, Dean, was when I, 594 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, added Lauren to my family and was to 595 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: my life. That part of that to me is the 596 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: fiscal responsibility of taking care of her. And I know 597 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: that she doesn't need to be taken care of, like 598 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, she she's fine on her own. But at 599 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: the same time, like, that's part of my responsibility, I feel, 600 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: And so if something happens to me, you know, I've 601 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: brought her into my life and I want her to 602 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: be able to keep that life. 603 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Sadeine, I have this idea that if you 604 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: want to take Chris hiking, yes in Pakistan. 605 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: I think like super fun, super safe. 606 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was weird because she's like, do you want 607 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: to go to Korea? And she's like, no, North Korea? 608 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 5: What Yah? 609 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, just go hiking. It's fine, it's beautiful, 610 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: untouched resources. 611 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: The really idiotic thing is that when I've now realized 612 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: when you said I got a life insurance policy on 613 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: like for you, I thought it was on me, but 614 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: that also it would benefit us, Like I don't you 615 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: know what, I didn't understand what I've been. 616 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Going to all these doctors appointments. I had to get 617 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: blood tests. You know, you have to do all the 618 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: stuff so you can get preferred or super preferred and 619 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: all that, and so yeah, I got a clean bill 620 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: of health. And I've literally been talking to her while 621 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: I've been going to these appointments, like she was on 622 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: the road and she's like, what are you doing. I said, 623 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm getting my blood taken. I'm doing all this stuff 624 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: for the policy, and I'm like, why would that have 625 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Why would I have given blood for you? But anyway, 626 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: long story short anyway. So yeah, but that's part of 627 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: the that's part of the responsibility, and it is it's 628 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: something that is it's not joyful, it's not fun. But 629 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: like Laura and I sat down, it's like I wanted 630 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: her to see the picture of this is our life 631 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: like and it's important to have those conversations, especially when 632 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: you guys I don't know if y'all did ever had 633 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: that discussion of babe, are you in debt? Like how 634 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: much debt are you caring? What are you bringing to 635 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: the table, and you know, like here's my accounts. Like 636 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: I sat with Lauren, i walked her through all my 637 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: bank accounts. I'm like, here's the money, here's what we have, 638 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: here's what and so we. 639 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: Have a pretty good and we even when we first 640 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: to dating, we opened like a joint checking account together 641 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 4: within like a few months yea. And then we were 642 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: always kind of pretty open and transparent about our money. 643 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 7: And the main thing was just getting Deane's credit up. Yeah, 644 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 7: but we built that pretty good. 645 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 646 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, your credit score. 647 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: I think when I went on Bachelor at my credit 648 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: score was like five twenty. 649 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: It was like five. Yeah, that's really low. 650 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 5: It was almost as low as it possibly could have been. 651 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 7: And then the past five years we've been working on that. 652 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I would ye fifty, which is pretty good. 653 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Wow, she just knows it work. 654 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she knows it and hers is like eight 655 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: hundred something. We've always been pretty transparent with that and 656 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: it's nice. Like I always wonder too if if times 657 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: have weren't good, Like, you know, we haven't had to 658 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: stress about money very much, you know, like I said, 659 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 4: it is the root of a lot of my stress. 660 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 4: But it is still like we are very fortunate with 661 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 4: what we have and I can't imagine eventually when things 662 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: might go south if they do, hopefully they don't, but 663 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: like it's just it's just another layer wrinkle to add 664 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: into it, to to get upset with each other about Well, 665 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: now it's been good. Actually, she wanted to buy the 666 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: new iPhone lately, and I just keep telling her, like, 667 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: we don't need you don't need the new iPhone phone. 668 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: So yeah, we still have some like small arguments about that. 669 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: She doesn't like that I had my golf membership in 670 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 4: l A still, so we need to iron some stuff out. 671 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: Well. 672 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 7: When we got married, we're like we're fully like finances 673 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 7: are completely blended now, and so it's like we need 674 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 7: to be super honest about what we're spending. 675 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm just now remembering your entire trajectory 676 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: on the show, and I just remember that you were 677 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: the f boy on Paradise. I'm not exaggerating. I fully 678 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: forgot it until like just a few minutes ago. 679 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was looking at you. 680 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: Now, I was the F boy. I think I made 681 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: F boys like trendy. 682 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 683 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Elon Gale, is you for that show? 684 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 685 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I also didn't know that story about 686 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: Dean being your financial advisor on the beach. 687 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: He was no more like the life advisor. I would 688 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 5: say it was very literal. 689 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of rude people, Ben Higgins just walked in. 690 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: We was talking about how you stole the toast last 691 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: night and just buried me. 692 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: And upset Chris so much that he had to go 693 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: procure a dessert and come forth from the kitchen singing. 694 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was nice. 695 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: His ego was smashed so hard that he was like, 696 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: I need to perform a musical number now. 697 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: No, but yeah, And actually I was a little bummed 698 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: to hear that Paradise has allegedly been postponed, I think 699 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: is the official way they're saying it is they're postponing 700 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: it for a year or canceling it. 701 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I did hear some whispers. 702 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Obviously, either way, that's not It's never good in TV. 703 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: We all know this business well enough that when you know, 704 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: they don't postpone shows that are doing great. But but 705 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: I was bummed to hear that. 706 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: As a fan of that show. Not so much the 707 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: main show. It's just because I don't really watch reality 708 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: television a lot. It has seemed to have gotten worse 709 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 4: over the years. 710 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've discussed this a lot, just because people are 711 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 7: so hyper aware and so worried about social media and 712 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: like coming across poorly that it's not good television. 713 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: You know what I noticed, And I said this when 714 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: we were here last year and I met some or 715 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe some other iHeart thing. And I always meet some 716 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: of the kind of the newer people that I didn't 717 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: watch and I don't know them, Like so Justin and 718 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: Susie are here. They're new and I think they were 719 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: on kind of recent seasons. And what I've noticed is 720 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: there's no joy. No one's talking about it, even the 721 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: ladies from the Golden Bachelor. No one's talking about it 722 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: glowingly about what an amazing experience it was. And look, 723 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I know that everyone you know, even back in my day, 724 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: it was like there was good at its, bad at its, 725 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: and you know, and Higgins is sitting here. You're all 726 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: sitting here, and so we all had our ups and dow. 727 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: Higgins really bad at it. 728 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we made him look like the golden Boy. I said, Ben, 729 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I said, you've been getting away far too long from 730 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: being known as the nice guy from the Midwest. I said, 731 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: your run has come to an end. I'm gonna out 732 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: him as for the guy he really is. But I 733 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: saw him push an old lady down on the street 734 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and Carmel, it was horrible, horrible man, And. 735 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: That was you. 736 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: I was the old man. 737 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: We're in California. 738 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: He said, screw you, old man, and he pushed me 739 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: down on the golf course. And but it is That's 740 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: one thing I've noticed, and it's unfortunate that no one 741 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: comes away with Joy and it's almost like this experience 742 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: they've survived, which is a really and and I don't 743 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: know if you guys think back on your time with Joy. 744 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: Even though there were a lot of like darker moments 745 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: like the f Boy series that I was kind of 746 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: in the thick of uhhase. Yeah, yeah, the hometown experience 747 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: wasn't too good for me. Winter Games as a whole 748 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: was just a mess of a show. Still fun, I guess, 749 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: but yeah, I still look back on those fondly, Like 750 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: even though there were bad moments, I still look at 751 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: it as a net positive. 752 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: And yeah, it was like a fun time with friends 753 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 7: and and you Yeah, you've got your things that you 754 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 7: go through publicly. 755 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: But I had a blast. 756 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: And y'all noticed that when you run into people on 757 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: the French just that joy. 758 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 7: It's like, who if that was brutal? I'm like, you 759 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 7: didn't have fun. Yeah, you didn't have a blast. 760 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, why'd you just like you just 761 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: signed up for prison camp? What was going on? 762 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 7: They took your phone, didn't communicate with anyone. 763 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: No, that's true. I guess I never thought about that. 764 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: But you're right, And I don't really talk to a 765 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: lot of like the newer contestants, so maybe I don't 766 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: just get that experience firsthand. But yeah, when we talked 767 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: to like Ben and and Wells and everyone else that 768 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: we know from like the same kind of era, for 769 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: lack of a better word, that we're from. It's always positive. 770 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: But the newer contestants maybe you just don't have the 771 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: same experience. 772 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I always forget about Winter Games. It was so fun. 773 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you had fun. 774 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Remember when Ben fell in love with Yuki? 775 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. We were just talking about that the 776 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 5: other day. 777 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: He was like pulling her around the front yard on 778 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 4: the sledge and he's like screaming for it. 779 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: I don't remember you on that show. 780 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 5: That's good, that's let's keep it that way. 781 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Let me there's an indelible like thing burned in my brain. 782 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: I can never get it out. It's this image, and 783 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: that is Ben Higgins and Dean in a speed racing 784 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: skin tight We had a speed racing event and we 785 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: thought this would be funny. We're gonna put them in 786 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: the you know, the true speedo thing, and it was interesting. 787 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and those guys, those Canadian guys are all such 788 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: great skaters. 789 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: And then here we go. 790 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: I've like been on ice skates twice in my life 791 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: and it was just and then yeah, we were wearing 792 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: skin tight suits. You fall in that ice, you're busting 793 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: your hip wide open. Even at twenty seven, I was 794 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: scared to fall and hurt myself. 795 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: We had, you know, putting people on skis. 796 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 6: We had ski races and when there were people who 797 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 6: had never seen snow, and we were like, we're gonna 798 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: fire you down a mountain, We're like, here, we're gonna 799 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 6: let you practice for three minutes and now now it's 800 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 6: time to go. Speaking of insurance, no, I mean we 801 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 6: had this net upright, and people were flying into the net. 802 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: It was a horrible idea. And the snow was really icy. 803 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't even good snow. Do you know how I. 804 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: Knew as a reporter, and this is before we're dating 805 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: that you kind of didn't give a shit about this 806 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: that show, like you were just having fun. I show 807 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: up for the interview and for the first time I've 808 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: been interviewing him for years, and he had facial hair 809 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: be remember that actually he is doing He's just he's 810 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: just enjoying this. 811 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: I guess it was kind of two things, honestly, that show. 812 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: So we were really burned out, Like they we kept 813 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: creating shows and you know, we were you know, kept 814 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: we were having massive success and we were kind of 815 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: victims of our own success because ABC's like, give us more, 816 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: give us more, give us more. We're doing twenty six 817 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: hours of Paradise, and so we were going from show 818 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: to show to show, and when they added Winter Games, 819 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: we had finally just what would happen was we we 820 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: would wrap Bachelor and that wraps like right around Thanksgiving, 821 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: and you'd finally you'd go home. You'd like, Okay, I 822 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: can see my family, spend time with the kids and 823 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: like reinvest and plug back in. And it was like, no, no, Like, 824 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna go home celebrate Thanksgiving and you're going to 825 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: right back out to Vermont and you're going to be 826 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: there until basically Christmas. And it was just like such 827 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: a gut punch because I'm like I just on a 828 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: personal level spent so much time alone. And as Laura knows, 829 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: because we had her first flirty conversation in that hotel 830 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: room when she interviewed me. Because I was very I 831 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: didn't know that I was very well. I guess the 832 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: first flirty thing was in Paradise. And then then she 833 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: came and asked. 834 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Me, you know you got we were married for three 835 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: months and forgets everything. 836 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: There was episode she interviewed. 837 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: Down the mountain Dean. 838 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: She interviewed me for Winter Games and she came in 839 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: and she's like, by the way, are you single? And 840 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: this is in the interview. I was like, oh, she's 841 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: hitting on me. I want to know, and so what 842 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: was but what the truth? So this is how I 843 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: see the world? Right? The truth was? 844 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: He was like on camera, this professional woman is hitting 845 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: on me. 846 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: No, the truth. 847 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: The truth was, what's some respects on my name? 848 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Some some a producer had heard I was dating somebody 849 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: and they just said, hey, Lauren, you need to ask 850 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: that idiot host if he's dating somebody to try and 851 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: get a scoop. Yes, of course in my mind, yeah, 852 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: I think she's hitting on me. Right, I like my 853 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: version and what's the real version? 854 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 5: Though? 855 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: That was it? 856 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: No, he really did tell the truth. The truth. Well, 857 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: that's how it was. At ET. 858 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: It was like like if you were going into an 859 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: interview and they're mandating questions, you have to ask, you 860 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: have to ask that. And they were like, we have 861 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: this tip that Chris Harrison is dating someone, so go 862 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: ask him if he's dating someone. 863 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: So I had to like and I had. 864 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: This, I've been dating someone, but we had been broken up. 865 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: So I was like, why yeah, and so we had 866 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: a very flirt and then he was like. 867 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: But there's this guy Dean who's here. 868 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's circumcised, because. 869 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 4: That's so funny that he's reading off your cards and Chris. 870 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: And then meanwhile I was just thinking like, Wow, this 871 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: girls really. 872 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: A lot. 873 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Because I help people find love does not mean I 874 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: was good at it myself. Those that can't do teach guys. 875 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: It is so damn good to have you. It's good 876 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: to see you, and in all seriousness, it was great 877 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: to like spend some really quality time with you at 878 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Wells and Sarah's wedding and then obviously this weekend and you, man, 879 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: I was like, I really, I said to Laura lest night, 880 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I got to spend a lot of 881 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: time with Dean this week, and I was like, I've 882 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: really enjoyed getting to know you better and I feel 883 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: like you're in a great place in life for both 884 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: of you, and I just I love it. It's been 885 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: great really gotten close. I appreciate what a good guy 886 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: you are. 887 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: I want to take this opportunity to apologize to you 888 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: for losing our team play yesterday. I mean, I miss 889 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: some big puts out there. Let Ben and Walls take 890 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: about seventy bucks off of was that quote that. 891 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: You told me last night? I was like, how'd you 892 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: guys play? 893 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: And he said, you know what they say about golf, 894 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: it's just about having fun out there. I was like, Diana, 895 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know golf, but no one says that. 896 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: I always say the best golfer is the one having 897 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 4: the most fun. 898 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: So I was the best golfer. 899 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Dean and I rode together. We had a blast, and 900 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: then we played Wells and Ben in a team event. 901 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: And again Higgins is right here. He did nothing Berger 902 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: all day, he wrote, and. 903 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: Why did you come into this room? 904 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 6: He wrote? 905 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: He's doing a podcast next because so almost famous podcasts. 906 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: Who's going to be on the almost famous podcast? Coming up? 907 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Justin and Susie new love It Just yeah. I talked 908 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: to them last night about their relationship. Really interesting how 909 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: they You know, they were on separate shows, but that's 910 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: not how they really got together. 911 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: Well, look at Dean and Campon. 912 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're coming in hot. There's Justin and 913 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Susan you right there, so we will clear out. But Dean, Kaylin, 914 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having us. Good to see you guys. I 915 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: love you guys. It's been fun. I think I speak 916 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: for everybody. Let's keep the mustache off. Yeah, well, and anestly, 917 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: did you shave this morning or last night? 918 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 5: It was this morning morning here? Yeah. 919 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh so you did this for the show. I did 920 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: it for you, handsome. 921 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 5: He's back. 922 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: This is step one of Dean coming Back. 923 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: Thank you guys, thanks for listening. 924 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever, 925 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: and make sure to write us a review and leave 926 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.