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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: Podcast back at it again. Another beautiful week. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess that's one way to put it. But we're we're

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Speaker 1: up and running here. UH got some stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: We got the redskins. I guess they're no longer gonna

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Speaker 1: be called that. We'll dive into that. Uh, Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: some stories about there's no communication going on. I'll dive

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Speaker 1: into some thoughts there. And there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: Prescott and UH, I definitely have some thoughts there. The

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Speaker 1: NBA is doing some stuff, uh, separate from the bubble.

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Speaker 1: But the way they're handling the coronavirus in terms of

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Speaker 1: telling the public who has Corona and who doesn't have Corona,

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're some things there that the NFL

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Speaker 1: can definitely learn from and do differently come the fall.

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Speaker 1: the direct messages wide open, get your questions and answer

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Speaker 1: I'm not uh you know, I don't there's there's not

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Speaker 1: handles slide up in there. Okay, let's dive into the

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Speaker 1: Washington I don't know what they're gonna be called football team,

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Speaker 1: because now we know. I guess it's unofficially official that

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Speaker 1: they will no longer be called the Redskins. And I've

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Speaker 1: said over and over I I don't spend that much

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Speaker 1: time thinking about this story. I never have over the years.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, against changing the name. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: four changed name. I really did not care they changed

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Speaker 1: the name fine, good, it doesn't matter. And I think

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Speaker 1: two things you see here. One, nothing has ever changed

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Speaker 1: in business when things are going well, because under Dan Snyder,

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Speaker 1: despite be in the self made billionaire, his franchise has

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Speaker 1: I think the only teams you put in their kind

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Speaker 1: they have lost at high rates. Besides, you kind of

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Speaker 1: siphon out the RG three rookie year. The Redskins have

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Speaker 1: been a joke. Now, what they have not been a

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Speaker 1: joke at is making money. They've made a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: The franchise valuation has skyrocket. Part of that is just

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Speaker 1: the growth of the NFL. Part of that is there

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Speaker 1: in a massive market, but their brand is big. So

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Speaker 1: clearly all these the FedEx, Nike, when these big corporations

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Speaker 1: and companies when they change and they do all these

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Speaker 1: always about money. It always is because any public corporation,

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Speaker 1: And once they start whoever their partners with or in

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Speaker 1: creates change. We saw it over the last month with Facebook, right,

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Speaker 1: You're probably losing your asks. You gotta cut the marketing bill.

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Speaker 1: Because here's what I do know as someone that's advertised

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Speaker 1: live in the culture. Let's say there's something wrong with

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, people were trying to get them to change

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Speaker 1: the name because in this hypothetical it wasn't politically correct. Well,

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Speaker 1: those brands mean a lot more than the Redskins brand,

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Speaker 1: simply because this team has been terrible, I mean god

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Speaker 1: awful for several decades. Now. Yeah, they had some histories,

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Speaker 1: They changed their name to the Wizards. You know what,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into Dakota Prescott also known as dak also

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Speaker 1: known as the Cowboys quarterback, and the whole situation of

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Speaker 1: dak has me thinking of of something. You know, when

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it behooves you to not blow up her phone

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Speaker 1: the next day, maybe even for a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: just lay low. Anyone that's ever been into a contract negotiation,

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Speaker 1: not allowed to comment, tweet, or write in your story

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Speaker 1: what happens at practice, which I don't even care about

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Speaker 1: that that impacts, you know, other NFL franchises, But I

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Speaker 1: think for I think there's two reasons why they do

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Speaker 1: the injury report every every week. One competitive balance. Know

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Speaker 1: who's in, no, who's out? Or give yourself each team

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Speaker 1: a field because you have to send the injury report

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Speaker 1: to the opposing team. When I worked for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I would print out the injury report my first year

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Speaker 1: when I was like the lowest guy in the totem pole,

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Speaker 1: and I would take it first, I drop it off

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Speaker 1: to Andy and Howie, and then I would take it

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Speaker 1: to every position coach and I would drop off a

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Speaker 1: hard copy of the injury report. Who's probably, who's out,

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Speaker 1: Who's doubtful. You know, on every assistant coach, especially the coordinators.

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Speaker 1: And I think the NBA is showing I'll be shocked

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Speaker 1: if they're very transparent in the bubble when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the coronavirus. Well, you can't be in bed with

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Speaker 1: gambling companies and do that. I can't all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden be like, well I've just put money on the

447
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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets and all of a sudden, James Harden and

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook are nowhere to be found. Now we understand

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Speaker 1: that at any moment, guys can get it and they're

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Speaker 1: going to be out, which I listen, I I am

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Speaker 1: pro all these leagues starting back up, people are going

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Speaker 1: to test positive. We know that if you just look

453
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Speaker 1: around the country, people are testing positive as high rates.

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Speaker 1: It's mostly younger people. It's mostly younger people right now.

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Speaker 1: And look at the look at the demo of the

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Speaker 1: professional sports leagues. But when it happens, you have to

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Speaker 1: tell us. And I think foot ball, and you can

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Speaker 1: give me what about the hippa And I see all

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Speaker 1: these media, what a hippa? Will you tell me all

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Speaker 1: the time when they get an a c L You

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Speaker 1: tell me all the time, when hell they get sick

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Speaker 1: and non pandemic. You tell me when they have serious

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Speaker 1: injuries or serious illnesses, you have no problem breaking that.

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Speaker 1: What is the difference? And I think the league's need

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Speaker 1: to get on top of this in the NFL, who

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Speaker 1: is is pro gambling? Now? Is any league? Because they

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Speaker 1: see the revenue stream and they see the money that's

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Speaker 1: gonna start flowing that it's a complicated season, and we

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Speaker 1: we all acknowledge that, and you can we'll dive in

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Speaker 1: as the season gets closer. It's gonna be a challenge.

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Speaker 1: I think I've seen some Week one lines already out.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult. I don't even know how you

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Speaker 1: factor in if fans aren't allowed home fields weird. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just we'll dive into all that as we get

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Speaker 1: closer and we know more information. But the number one

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Speaker 1: thing we have to know is is your quarterback healthy?

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Speaker 1: Is you know your star defensive player going to play like?

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Speaker 1: Is he just a quote unquote health They scratch and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well, obviously that like that can't happen,

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Speaker 1: that that that one million percent cannot happen. The consumer

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Speaker 1: has to know there can't be inside information and I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a complicated issue, definitely in the

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Speaker 1: n b A. I am confident in the NFL will

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Speaker 1: get out in front of this, but it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to They need to look at

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Speaker 1: how baseball and basketball. I don't know how baseball necessarily

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Speaker 1: is gonna handle it, but I don't think baseball is

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Speaker 1: making it public either. You can't be taken seriously as

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Speaker 1: a gambling sport, and when all they talk about is

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Speaker 1: gambling revenue, gambling revenue, gabling gambling revenue. Part of that

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Speaker 1: is transparency if you want people to gamble on your sport.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is gonna be a trying time

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Speaker 1: this fall for these people to actually practice what they preach. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: for the NFL, they already have a built in mechanism.

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Speaker 1: I I just think adding the Corona element, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: make things very very interesting. Okay, let's dive into a

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Speaker 1: little something we call the middle Cough mail bag at

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Speaker 1: John Middlekoff Instagram. Handle fire in those d M s

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Speaker 1: and you get right here on the show. And if

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Speaker 1: you're mad at me because I haven't read your question,

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Speaker 1: I apologize. I don't have a great accounting method that

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to skip anything. I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: miss anything. Sometimes I just do. So if I have

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Speaker 1: missed your question, just send me a d M again

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Speaker 1: and I will hopefully read your question. I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: it on purpose. I just I's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: d ms and a lot of dudes asking football questions.

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Speaker 1: Question for you from Gavin right now. The current rhetoric

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Speaker 1: is that athletes should be okay to play during the

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Speaker 1: pandemic because they are in top shape and the lower

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Speaker 1: impact of age group. While I know there are still

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Speaker 1: a lot to figure out, my concern is that athletes

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Speaker 1: with underlying conditions and what this means to them and

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Speaker 1: their team is being overlooked. For example, as a Bengals fan,

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Speaker 1: I am particularly concerned about Geno Atkins would not be

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Speaker 1: able to play because he has sickle cell. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard any conversations around the topic addressing situations in which

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Speaker 1: players have underlying conditions and current thoughts about handling these

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Speaker 1: cases to lessen the harms two players and their teams.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question and one that I don't have

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Speaker 1: a great, you know, feel for answering. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys that have underlying conditions, that have

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Speaker 1: made some money that may skip playing. Just be an

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Speaker 1: educated guest based on some of the other league's had

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Speaker 1: some guys not play. Uh. The other thing the NFL

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Speaker 1: different than like basketball. It just has a lot more players.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have fifty three guys in a roster. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure von Miller has asthma and got corona

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Speaker 1: and he's playing. I don't know about sickle cell the

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Speaker 1: impact that has. I haven't. I'd have to read something.

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Speaker 1: You probably know better than me. If you're about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Isn't that Uh people with sickle cell

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Speaker 1: that's the limited is it? White blood cells and guys

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Speaker 1: going into Denver, Colorado? White guys haven't played in the past.

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Speaker 1: Trying to think who who wasn't that didn't play a

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Speaker 1: while back? A safety I thought that didn't play against

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Speaker 1: the the guy on the Steelers, I don't remember, but

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Speaker 1: I know it's definitely happening before when they play the Broncos. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I think they will have protocols and

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Speaker 1: cautions to be overly cautious with every player, let alone

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Speaker 1: the guys with underlying conditions. Part part of the reality

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Speaker 1: we're living in though. Uh, you know the PC crowd

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Speaker 1: won't like this, But you don't have to play, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have underlying conditions like you don't have to play,

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Speaker 1: and then depending you know, you know, based on pay

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Speaker 1: and I you know the legalities. You can always sue

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Speaker 1: to try to get your money if you want to play,

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Speaker 1: but they don't let you play. I don't know. These

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Speaker 1: are things that are above my prey pay grade in

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Speaker 1: terms of complications. Uh. When you just look at the

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL, because the guys, you know, your

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Speaker 1: career can end at any moment, and the amount of

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Speaker 1: money a guy like Geno Atkins would have on the line,

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Speaker 1: I would I would just take an educated guess he'd

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Speaker 1: want to play. But I don't know. You have talked

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Speaker 1: to a doctor. That's a good question, though. If you

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Speaker 1: had to pick one of these three quarterbacks for the

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Speaker 1: next ten years, which one would you choose? And why

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson Carson wentz into Shaun Watson. I had a

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Speaker 1: buddy text me in the league the other day and

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Speaker 1: said he heard something. I think, uh, Colin was talking

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Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson kind of like Patrick Mahomes in terms

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Speaker 1: of the contract and what you're gonna do. And this scout,

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Speaker 1: high level scout, had a good point. He said, Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing with Patrick Mahomes, he's twenty five, and as

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Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, he hasn't really scratched the surface

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Speaker 1: like he's he's only been a two year starter. He

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Speaker 1: can get a lot better mental in terms of reading defense.

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Speaker 1: He even talked about like when he that first year

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Speaker 1: he started playing, he didn't even quite know what was

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Speaker 1: going on. He won the m v P. I think

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Speaker 1: how much better he'll be mentally in like four or

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Speaker 1: five years. Where you could argue Lamar Jackson might never

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Speaker 1: be better than he is these first couple of years,

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Speaker 1: in this upcoming year, like it might be the peak

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Speaker 1: of his powers. And his point basically was, like Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is ascending stock, he is trending up. There's a

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Speaker 1: chance Lamar Jackson that was as good as it gets

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Speaker 1: because a huge percentage of what he does is based

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Speaker 1: on his feet, and you're not able to run around

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Speaker 1: like that forever. Now he's young, he's a freak athlete.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. When you run around you you

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Speaker 1: essentially or eventually get hurt. Maybe you can avoid it

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Speaker 1: for a longer period of time. It feels like Lamar

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Speaker 1: is a pretty smart runner. But I think Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: by far is the most talented of the three. But

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Speaker 1: if I had to pick a guy for the next

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Speaker 1: ten years, that would be a pretty risky bet. Right.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt in seventeen, he got hurt in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: He played all sixteen games, but he didn't get a

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Speaker 1: concussion in nineteen. Now that's a freak deal. But betting

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Speaker 1: on a guy that legitimately showed me he struggles to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy would be kind of crazy. He was hurt

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Speaker 1: in college. Lamar Jackson, I still think is a really

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Speaker 1: risky pick. I know DeShawn Jackson or excuse me not

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Speaker 1: de Sean Jackson, who I think Schefter tweeted, will go

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Speaker 1: to oshwitch. Uh. I would imagine after the pandemic, we'll

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Speaker 1: see if that comes to fruition, but claims he will.

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Speaker 1: It would be between Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson. I

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Speaker 1: would go with DeShawn Watson. Now, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz is the most talented. If injuries weren't

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Speaker 1: a factor, he'd be a no brainer first pick. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a chance if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, he's better than these two. Lamar Jackson, I

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Speaker 1: I just struggle with guys that are very, very dependent

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Speaker 1: on running the ball. This is a passing leak. And

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Speaker 1: when it was nut, you know, cutting time. The last

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Speaker 1: two years in the playoffs, Lamar couldn't get it done

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Speaker 1: because he couldn't throw on third and long. And I

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Speaker 1: know people have said, well, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: game last year, five on yours offense. I watched the game.

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Speaker 1: I got his ass kicked. Deshaun Watson has carried a

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Speaker 1: very very flawed team to the playoffs year after year.

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Speaker 1: And even he doesn't I wouldn't say have a great arm,

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Speaker 1: there's just something intangible about him as a passing quarterback,

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Speaker 1: as a playmaking quarterback with his arm. I've seen Lamar

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Speaker 1: do it when they're just kicking people's asses on Monday

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Speaker 1: night football, playing the Rams whatever. It just hasn't translated

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Speaker 1: to big games. I saw Deshaun Watson to do it

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Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs while getting his butt kicked

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Speaker 1: by the Bills, who were one of the best defenses

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Speaker 1: in the league. And just play after play after play

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Speaker 1: after play. The dude just made plays, so I would

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Speaker 1: go with Shaun Watson. Now I like that question. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson to think that he can just sustain the for

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Speaker 1: a decade is would be naive based on history. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he's an outlier. Uh, but usually you know when if

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Speaker 1: you bet on outliers, you tend to get burned. Question

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Speaker 1: for the pod, what do you think teams like the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: Chargers or Steelers Bengals have to be able to do

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Speaker 1: to win their conference against stacked power teams like the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs or the Ravens, especially with Mahomes staying in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City for the next decade. Personal question what kind of

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Speaker 1: career path did you take to become an NFL Scout.

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Speaker 1: That's something as a college student I'd like to look into. Okay,

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Speaker 1: on the personal question, I have a YouTube page and

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Speaker 1: I do it with Guy Haberman, who I have the

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Speaker 1: other podcast with, and we put up a couple of

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Speaker 1: videos I think two weeks ago. He's a play by

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Speaker 1: play guy, I was a Scout How to become a Scout?

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Speaker 1: I put the video on the YouTube channel if you

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Speaker 1: go to the YouTube channel. Haybraman Middlecoff started during Corona

643
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Speaker 1: a bunch of NFL videos. A lot of nine are

644
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Speaker 1: talk too, but a lot we put a video on

645
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Speaker 1: how to become a scout up on the YouTube page.

646
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Speaker 1: So I think because a lot of people have asked

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Speaker 1: this question, I just put it on the YouTube page,

648
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: easy to find, easy to see. Kind of a breakdown

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Speaker 1: of my path, though, like anything in like any industry,

650
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Speaker 1: there's no direct path. This was kind of a you know,

651
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Speaker 1: I'm not the path I took might not be for everyone.

652
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Speaker 1: Your question on Kansas City and the Ravens. I think

653
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Raiders are in a little more

654
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Speaker 1: trouble because when you're in the division of and I

655
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Speaker 1: think the closest thing to this would be Brady or Manning,

656
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna kick your ass the majority of the time.

657
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes is gonna be the best player in the a

658
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: f C West until he gets injured. I mean, he's

659
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Speaker 1: twenty five years old. There's a chance the life of

660
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Speaker 1: this deal is just his entire prime. The Colts had

661
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for or you know what, fourteen, His prime

662
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: really his prime started year two and they kicked everyone's ass.

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Speaker 1: Felt like they won the a f C South every

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Speaker 1: single year. And remember the Titans had some good teams. Uh,

665
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars weren't any good and the Texans were bad, so

666
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: the division was definitely easier to me the Raiders, like,

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: how are they going to score with them? The Raiders

668
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: struggle to do two things against the Chiefs. Score at

669
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Speaker 1: their level, and they can't play any defense. So if

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Speaker 1: you can't cover anybody, they have no pass rush. The

671
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: Raiders are an awful matchup against the Chiefs under John

672
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Gruden once they got rid of Khalil Mack and awful matchup.

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: They have no pass rush and they can't cover a soul.

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00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: So maybe their defense is better. This year we'll see

675
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers actually a little bit better matchup because they

676
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: got a bunch of defensive backs and they have good

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Speaker 1: pass rushers. If you're gonna play with the Chiefs, you

678
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: better get after the quarterback and you better have guys

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00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: that can cover, and the Chargers have those two guys.

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Now can they consistently score? Who knows? Tyrod Taylor, Justin Herbert,

681
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Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns. I don't have the answers. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it, but I say the Chargers

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Speaker 1: match up if Justin Herbert just becomes like a Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: Chargers should be pretty good. If Justin Herbert is just

685
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott what he became, Charges being pretty good shape.

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Speaker 1: Now are they better than Chiefs? No? Can they hang

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Speaker 1: with them? Yes? When it comes to the Steelers and

688
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: the Bengals, Uh, you know, you just gotta stop the run.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just that simple. You have to corral

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Speaker 1: the running game. When you can stop their running game,

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Speaker 1: they're human. Right when they can just run the ball

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00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: down your throat running the option, you're gonna be in

693
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: some trouble. And right now, no one can stop the

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Speaker 1: run game. They run it down people's throats at will.

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00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: So when you can stop the run game, you've got

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Speaker 1: a chance. The Ravens defense is good. The Ravens are

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Speaker 1: a very very tough regular season team to play playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Different story, regular season challenge. Thoughts on how the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers will do this year. Thoughts on how Big Ben

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Speaker 1: will return love the pot, appreciate it Sam, Uh Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's thirties seven, as he turned thirty Yate

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Speaker 1: this fall. I've been saying it from the jump. I

703
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: just struggle when you have an injury, like you tear

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Speaker 1: your elbow. So Roethlisberger turn thirty eight this year. Think

705
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Speaker 1: about this. He's thirty eight years old, coming off a

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Speaker 1: game where he could not make it through week one

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Speaker 1: and missed the entire season, and he had a major

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00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: elbow injury, as Carson Palmer told me when I had

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: him on the podcast, maybe a year ago. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess less than a year. In the fall is

711
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: that as you get older, and it's one thing when

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Speaker 1: you get hurt. Hell, even like thirty two, you can

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Speaker 1: the rehab sucks, but your body can you know, overcome it.

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Speaker 1: When you get into your late thirties. He's like, your

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Speaker 1: body does not respond to the rehab like it did

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Speaker 1: when you were in your late twenties. So to think

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Speaker 1: that Roethlisberger, who has been banged up the entire decade,

718
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Speaker 1: only played a full season I think four times times

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand tens, is going to be able

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Speaker 1: to give him sixteen games. I put the over under

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Speaker 1: like ten or eleven. If they got a ten or

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Speaker 1: eleven games out of him, they'd have a chance. So

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Speaker 1: let me read you the games played starting in two

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Speaker 1: thousand ten, twelve, fifteen, thirteen, sixteen, sixteen, twelve, fourteen, fifteen,

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Speaker 1: sixteen two. So I guess it was the second game

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Speaker 1: last year. It's just a problem. And I think they're

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00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: definitely talented enough. They have a big time defense, they

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Speaker 1: have a sweet pass rush. They got make up Fitzpatrick,

729
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: who's a star. Uh. They have weapons on offense. They've

730
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: got good wide receivers, they have good running back, their

731
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Speaker 1: offensive line solid. It's just if you got to play

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Speaker 1: with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges again. Like I'm I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just can't take you seriously. I just I can't

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Speaker 1: bet on Roethlisberger at this time to give you a

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Speaker 1: double edgy games. Maybe he does, and if he does,

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. How much longer do you realistically see

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00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: Edelman in the NFL on the Patriots? He is sneaky old,

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Speaker 1: and loss of Tom should start to kill his passion

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Speaker 1: to stick around. I would say one percent. This is

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman's last year on the Patriots. Let me bring

741
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: up his contract, but I think there were rumors that

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00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: they might trade him. Uh during March. Like you said,

743
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: sneaky old, he's thirty four. He just turned thirty four.

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00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: He's been a guy that's battled some injuries. Uh, he's

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: taken cheap deals now, depending on how he looks this season,

746
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: is Julian Edelman ever gonna get a big contract again?

747
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean, Julian Edelman is a very very

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00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I thought in his prime was probably one of the

749
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Speaker 1: best lot receivers in the league. A championship player, a winner,

750
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: a guy you can depend on in huge games. Basically,

751
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: this year he's on the books. He'll be on the

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Speaker 1: team next year. They can get out of it for

753
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: like two and a half million dollars. I would imagine

754
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: they either cut him or trade him after the season.

755
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: So two thousand twenty will be Julian Edelman's last season

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00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: on the Patriots, And like Listen, he had a hell

757
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: of a career. Um, he'll play for someone else. I

758
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: could see him, you know, in Miami with Flores, any

759
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: of the Patriot type guys. Uh, with Rabels as boy,

760
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: with the Titans. I could see a team like the

761
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: Niners would love him. Uh, I bet you just start,

762
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, I bet Pete Carroll would like him. Winning

763
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: teams will like Julian Edelman, you know, even if he's

764
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: an older version. Just to get that winning culture. He'll

765
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Speaker 1: play for another team like, I don't see him retiring

766
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: unless it's an injury. I have always been obsessed with

767
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: scouting since I was a kid, mainly scouting of high

768
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: school athletes. I study recruits and make my own ratings

769
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: for quite a while. I know I'm odd l O L.

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Speaker 1: I've actually known meant multiple people in the NFL. They

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: did that, You're not weird at all. I'm about to

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00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: graduate college and I've tried different internships. Nothing has been

773
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: calling my name. I'm one in to see what's out there.

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: Was scouting as a career since I use all my

775
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: free time on it. Any advice on what you need

776
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: to do to get into the field. I know you

777
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: did NFL scouting. Any advice would be much appreciated. Like

778
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: I said, I have the video on how to become

779
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a scout. If you're in college and you're doing the

780
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: college recruiting, my recommendation would try to be link up

781
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: with the college you're working with in the recruiting office.

782
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: One problem is gonna be in texting with some of them,

783
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, Coach Read and Howie. There is not gonna

784
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: be a lot of and I saw I saw Joe

785
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Klatt said this and he's right. Not a lot of

786
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna get fired this fall because the money changed. Well,

787
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: with the revenue changing, I don't think they're gonna be

788
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: a lot of like internship opportunities in the scouting world

789
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: this fall. If college football is conference only, they're probably

790
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: not even gonna let NFL scouts into their buildings. Scouts

791
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: are gonna have to do it all remotely. So I'm

792
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: not trying to be a Debbie downer because I'm I'm

793
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: a positive p D, but just being I'm a realist,

794
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough year for the job

795
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: perspective for the scouting community, Like, there aren't gonna be

796
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: many opportunities, so you might have to do work for free.

797
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you your college where if you go

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00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: to school for a Division one program, help them out

799
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: in recruiting, especially if you're doing it already just naturally

800
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: on your free time, you could help them out. So

801
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: utilize that to your benefit. If they're in your backyard.

802
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: And if their Division one program, you're gonna have scouts,

803
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: maybe not this year because of Corona, but in future

804
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: years come through. If you were the Titans, would you

805
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: sign Clowny to a one year deal. Personally, I'd rather

806
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: take the money Clowney is asking for and take a

807
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: flyer on Antonio Brown. Rabel seems like the perfect players

808
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: coach that AB would vibe with. I was watching some

809
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: of the American Century the Golf tournament with all the

810
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: celebrities and Mahomes like it hit a put for a

811
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: par and you would have thought he won the Masters.

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00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: In his group was Travis Kelsey and they're like the

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Speaker 1: other member of his group was Mike Vrabel. Can you

814
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: imagine if you're Mike Rabel playing with Mahomes and and

815
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Kelsey after you just played him in the NFC Championship

816
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: game and you had to tend nothing to lead. That

817
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: probably was a fun group. I bet they were slamming

818
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: some beers. I would Yeah, I take a one year

819
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: flyer on him. You already have the kids you drafted

820
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: last year from Mississippi State. Shaun Evans is a good player.

821
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Speaker 1: You have a defensive head coach, like you said, with

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00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Rabel having him there. The thing with Antonio Brown, like

823
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams will just their reaction

824
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be no, we are not messing with that.

825
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we forget because as time passes

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Speaker 1: and we're in the middle of Corona and think how

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00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: much stuff has happened in two thousand, Like just the

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00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: amount of things that have happened Kobe died, like we

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00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: weren't even talking about that anymore, and that I would

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00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: imagine when Kobe died in the helicopter crash, I'd have

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Speaker 1: been like, by far, this is gonna be the biggest

832
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: moment of two It feels like it's been forgotten. So

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00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: you think about Antonio Brown, like you kind of forget

834
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: how weird his year was. I can't forget it, from

835
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: the feet to the patriot stuff, to throwing stuff at

836
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: his wife when she was I guess ex wife when

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00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: she was running out the door. Uh. To me, he's

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00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: a no go and and I'm a talent first guy.

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00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: I can't do it. And I would be shocked if

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00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: John Robinson, who's a patriot guy, uh, and Vrabel is

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: a patriot guy, would mess with him the clowney thing.

842
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I think they would gladly take him, but they got

843
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a price. That's that's that's the smart patriot guys. Uh.

844
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: They don't try to be something they're not. And I

845
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: don't think John Robinson a v Abel. That's what makes

846
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: them kind of a good combo is they're very comfortable

847
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: in their own skin. The one thing they learned from Belichick, though,

848
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: is a Clowney will give you one year, twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's our probably take it to leave it like, we're

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Speaker 1: not giving you twenty. So if you want your you know,

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Speaker 1: ten or twelve or whatever the hell they're offering him,

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Speaker 1: that's the offer. Be patient. If he takes it, great

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't. But to me, Antonio Brown, they got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good chemistry team. They have a pretty a

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Speaker 1: thing going. They were in the NFC Championship last year,

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, the FC Championship last year. That's to

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Speaker 1: me a non starter Packer fan here, I'm wondering how

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Speaker 1: their offense will look this season. Well, they used two backs,

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Speaker 1: Dylan and Jones, and a lot of play action run first.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Rogers will be throwing the ball out

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Speaker 1: less than we have seen in the past. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts do you think, uh, it will be better

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Speaker 1: for Rogers long term. Well, my buddies on the Bears.

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Speaker 1: After they had their draft and they took the big

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Speaker 1: running back in the second game or in the second round.

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Speaker 1: He said, like John, it's pretty clear what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And I hadn't really I was like Jordan's love. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out what they were doing. They

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Speaker 1: want to slam the ball down your throat. Look at

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Speaker 1: what they did last year. I think when they played

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners, like Week ten or eleven, there are

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Speaker 1: two running backs that combined for twenty touchdowns. I think

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones had twelve and the other guy had eight.

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Speaker 1: And you get this running back who is good. And

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Speaker 1: I know Packer fans freaked out when they took this

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Speaker 1: guy from Boston College. My buddies in the league like,

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Speaker 1: they want to run the ball down your throat Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan style, and like you said, hit you with play action.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem. The one thing that Niners have is

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Speaker 1: turns out Debo is a good player. They have George

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Speaker 1: Kittle and they can also throw the ball. Kyle us

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Speaker 1: Check is like a hybrid player. So there are other

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and Kendrick Borne is solid. The Packers have

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Speaker 1: one wide receiver now he's a star wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams. But part of like play action you gotta

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Speaker 1: have a couple receiving options so you can run the

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Speaker 1: ball down people's throat if you If you can do that,

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Speaker 1: that's great, but you have to be able to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. Now. Part of the scheme they run, the

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Speaker 1: Shanahan scheme is play action opens guys up and you

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Speaker 1: can scheme average wide receivers up. So their game plan

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Speaker 1: one h is to do the opposite of what Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers hung his hat on forever, right, carry the give

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Speaker 1: the ball to Aaron, let him throw it four in

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Speaker 1: fifty times a game. Jordi, Greg Jennings, Davante, Donald Driver,

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Speaker 1: Randall Cob you name it. All the wide receivers over

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Speaker 1: the years, and they've had a ton and just let

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Speaker 1: him throw three or four touchdowns a game. That's not

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Speaker 1: what La Fleur wants. He wants them to run it,

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Speaker 1: control the clock and you know, not put the weight

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Speaker 1: of the world on Aaron rodger shoulders at thirty six

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Speaker 1: years old. Now does Aaron want that? I don't know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be complicated for sure, But if you're

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Speaker 1: running the ball successfully and you can win ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve games, I know they won thirteen last year. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a little unrealistic, but if it goes well,

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Speaker 1: I think they could win ten or eleven again. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That their philosophy is pretty clear. It's gonna be a run, heavy, play,

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Speaker 1: action Shanahan offense team. Now you just if Davanta gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: We saw last year it can really really cripple the offense.

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Speaker 1: a good week you do, enjoy the summer while lasts,

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Speaker 1: and keep your head up and keep smiling. Poo