Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Z mccomedy from the home office
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. LZ, what do we got today?
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should talk a little bit about Halloween.
Speaker 2: We just came off of it, and you greenlit and
Speaker 2: supported what I'm I would call my dream. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess our upcoming wedding is my dream, but it
Speaker 2: was also my dream to turn our pantry into a
Speaker 2: Hogwarts esque Harry Potter House sorting room. And it sounds weird,
Speaker 2: but I brought We had a party at our house,
Speaker 2: like a neighborhood party with a bunch of our friends,
Speaker 2: about fifty people, and I was in the closet all night,
Speaker 2: and I brought each guest into the closet with me
Speaker 2: and sorted them into their Harry Potter House and then
Speaker 2: had them take a shot of tequila. And I maintained
Speaker 2: a British accent and full character the entire time as
Speaker 2: Professor Harriet Potter. Anyway, it was my dream, and I
Speaker 2: do want to ask you, do you find me less
Speaker 2: attractive after that?
Speaker 1: Well, the idea of the Halloween party was a good one.
Speaker 1: It was yours because and this whole thing, I'm curious
Speaker 1: if anybody else out there does this. You went to
Speaker 1: Home Goods and you had a moment.
Speaker 2: Babe, FYI, most people listening to your podcast have been
Speaker 2: to Home Goods and had a moment.
Speaker 1: Saying has anyone been to home Goods? But you you
Speaker 1: created a party out of a trip to home Goods.
Speaker 1: You came home from Home Goods with a plethora of
Speaker 1: Halloween stuff. It's true you said, I have so much
Speaker 1: great Halloween stuff where you're throwing a party. So I'm
Speaker 1: curious anyone out there not if you went to Home
Speaker 1: Goods or bought the cute soap dispenser or whatever for
Speaker 1: Halloween or Thanksgiving, but have you ever created an event
Speaker 1: a party because you had so much cute stuff from
Speaker 1: a shopping spree you went on. That isn't something that's
Speaker 1: new to me.
Speaker 3: You know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's the home version of when you buy an outfit
Speaker 2: and like you want someone somewhere to wear it, and.
Speaker 1: You just said, you know what, screw it, I'm going
Speaker 1: to create my own event so I can wear this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2: I will say yeah, it did. I take it a
Speaker 2: bit to the extreme.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: I think what happened was I wandered into home goods,
Speaker 2: like right when the Halloween stuff had first been put out,
Speaker 2: so there was so much freshly stocked. I was listening
Speaker 2: to Harry Potter because I re listened to all the
Speaker 2: books every fall and feel festive for like all the holidays,
Speaker 2: because the books have Halloween and Christmas in them, every
Speaker 2: single book anyway. And so yeah, I did. I bought
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And then I said, we have to
Speaker 2: have a party. And I also want to thank you
Speaker 2: because you green let us having a party not.
Speaker 3: Too far out from our wedding, which was.
Speaker 1: That it was a lot. That was a big leap
Speaker 1: for us because there's a lot on the plate always
Speaker 1: coming up, and we're not using a coordinator, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about, and so we've been planning everything, including this
Speaker 1: Halloween party. But when I green let the Halloween party,
Speaker 1: which I was all in because it was our friends
Speaker 1: and it was awesome and and I didn't foresee you
Speaker 1: being in the closet all night. I knew you were
Speaker 1: going to do the sorting closet and we had the
Speaker 1: sorting hat and it was awesome, by the way. I
Speaker 1: was so impressed with what you pulled off. That was
Speaker 1: insane on a great level. And I didn't know you
Speaker 1: would be fully in character, which was also awesome. I
Speaker 1: found that very attractive. Really, yeah, that was kind of sexy.
Speaker 3: But like you don't love when I do, like my Voldemort.
Speaker 1: Voice totally different. No one is sexy doing Voldemort.
Speaker 3: I think some people out there would beg to differ,
Speaker 3: maybe like a bad boy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You had a cute British accent and people would go
Speaker 1: into our pantry. Lauren would come out and say, you
Speaker 1: have been chosen, sorted to be sorted right, Oh chosen?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure that I intended to be in
Speaker 2: the pantry, Alice.
Speaker 1: It took it took off.
Speaker 2: It took me over once, you know, I feed off
Speaker 2: of the performance. Once people started saying, oh, are you
Speaker 2: not going to break character? I thought to myself, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not going to break care you did
Speaker 2: and it was fun, you know. I mean, I like festivities,
Speaker 2: I love people. I do think sometimes we overbook ourselves
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's something we're trying to work on.
Speaker 2: But I would always rather be around people than be alone,
Speaker 2: and like you know, the holidays are a time to
Speaker 2: have parties and lean in and I think everybody really
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. But again, I was just very It really
Speaker 2: made me love you. You're always giving me new ways
Speaker 2: to love you. But one of the headlines we're going
Speaker 2: to get into today, like ties into this a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to bring up how you just said
Speaker 2: yes to the party, yes to my Harry Potter pantry,
Speaker 2: yes to all the things that I love, which was.
Speaker 1: Wonderful and it was a blast. And look, I think
Speaker 1: you're going to hit on another topic that we'll get
Speaker 1: into sometime about overbooking ourselves. It is so easy to
Speaker 1: do during the holidays. You kind of get lost in
Speaker 1: it all and next thing you know, it's January fourth.
Speaker 2: Well, what it's like a rule we should set for ourselves,
Speaker 2: should it be we need like between festivities, we need
Speaker 2: a certain of days.
Speaker 3: I feel like we need a guidelines.
Speaker 1: We at least need hours.
Speaker 3: No, you're being funny, I mean serious, we need a guideline.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that guideline would be, but I
Speaker 1: think it's good to have a down week to prepare
Speaker 1: for the next thing. I don't know if that's possible
Speaker 1: during the holidays though we have stuff.
Speaker 2: I think we should maybe say it's hard because other
Speaker 2: people's schedule things, But I think you got to try
Speaker 2: to do one event per weekend. Part of it was
Speaker 2: we also went to see a country concert, Parker McCollum,
Speaker 2: our fave. We went to see him on Friday, and
Speaker 2: then we had the Halloween party on Saturday.
Speaker 1: And killed it was awesome.
Speaker 3: We were wiped from the concert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were pretty wipe from the concert. We were
Speaker 1: there with Parker's family, his friends, and we had a
Speaker 1: blast and he absolutely crushed it. Sold out Moody Center.
Speaker 1: He was wrapping up his tour to you know, his
Speaker 1: final two things. I can't imagine how emotional it was
Speaker 1: for him because he purposefully wrapped it up in Austin,
Speaker 1: where his family is, and then he went down to
Speaker 1: the Woodlands in Houston where he's from. He's from Conroe,
Speaker 1: so a whirlwind two and then we went right into
Speaker 1: the party the next night.
Speaker 2: So I think one thing we need to realize is
Speaker 2: that I feel like I'm starting to notice we're very
Speaker 2: social people. We love to be around friends and family
Speaker 2: and put things on and host things. But one, you
Speaker 2: and I end up hosting things a lot. We've noticed this.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it is the I mean it's not.
Speaker 2: Being a TV host is very different than.
Speaker 1: Hosting a party, but we do like to both host.
Speaker 2: I think we're good at like entertaining people, and we
Speaker 2: kind of produce events in our house, so we end
Speaker 2: up posting a lot, and that can be much more
Speaker 2: tiring than obviously just attending an event. But two, I
Speaker 2: think it's important for us to realize that when we
Speaker 2: are at a party together or when we are in
Speaker 2: a group together, it isn't as good connecting time as
Speaker 2: like a date night.
Speaker 1: Of course, So how do I say no to you? No,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, Okay, this is for everybody out there in
Speaker 1: a relationship. How do I say no to you without
Speaker 1: hurting your feelings? Where I can say where you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: hey babe, you know what, let's let's host another event tuesday,
Speaker 1: Let's just have some friends over it. If I how
Speaker 1: do I tactfully say enough, like where we're we need
Speaker 1: to take it.
Speaker 2: Exactly what you're not doing right now? You, I mean
Speaker 2: what you're you don't do what you just did, You
Speaker 2: don't say enough. I think you say. I'm worried about
Speaker 2: you and about us.
Speaker 1: We're not connecting.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure.
Speaker 2: We have enough time for each other and for and
Speaker 2: I want you to have time for yourself.
Speaker 3: I want us to have time. I don't want us
Speaker 3: to not be a priority.
Speaker 1: I think that's important in the holidays, you got to
Speaker 1: have that communication with each other because inevitably one person
Speaker 1: is kind of pushing to do more or less than
Speaker 1: the other person, or booking things. So it's I think
Speaker 1: it's good to have those conversations.
Speaker 2: Should I have said no to you the day after
Speaker 2: the party leaving getting on a plane flying to Arizona
Speaker 2: to see the Texas Rangers World Series game?
Speaker 1: Was that too much? That would have been a detriment
Speaker 1: to our relationship.
Speaker 3: I would never That's the problem. We don't want to
Speaker 3: say no to each other.
Speaker 1: Two days later, like it was Monday and the party
Speaker 1: was sadday you left on It's like a week later
Speaker 1: I did no Monday. We are taping this tonight. Texas
Speaker 1: Rangers Arizona Diamondbacks were up three to one in the
Speaker 1: World Series. We have a chance to clinch, so I
Speaker 1: know I won't dive into sports too much. But I
Speaker 1: have been a fan of the Rangers since I was
Speaker 1: a child, and here is something that I will talk
Speaker 1: to you about sports that I love. So my brother
Speaker 1: and I went out to Game four of the World Series.
Speaker 1: We flew out to Arizona and we went together and
Speaker 1: it was a boys trip, just the two of us.
Speaker 1: We grew up going to the Ranger games in Arlington
Speaker 1: when we were kids. They sucked my entire life. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were horrible, but it didn't matter because that's not
Speaker 1: why we went. We didn't go because they were great
Speaker 1: or not great. We had our favorite players anyway, but
Speaker 1: it was time with my dad. It was time with
Speaker 1: our friends, and we'd take our gloves and sit in
Speaker 1: the outfield and hope to catch a foul ball and
Speaker 1: if nothing else, a bad sunburn. And those moments with
Speaker 1: my family, my dad, that's what I harkened back to
Speaker 1: when I go. And I was thinking about that when
Speaker 1: I went to the World Series game and we sat
Speaker 1: by a couple of people, a couple of father sons
Speaker 1: that were at the game and the World Series. And
Speaker 1: no matter where you are, whether it's in Texas, Arizona,
Speaker 1: Diamondback fans, I got in an Uber from the airport
Speaker 1: and I was talking to the Uber driver and he says,
Speaker 1: you guys here for the game. We had our Texas
Speaker 1: Ranger gear on. He says, oh, yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: go to the Diamondback games with my dad. And it
Speaker 1: just it made me think immediately, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: city you're in, you went to Cubs games with your dad.
Speaker 1: The game of baseball is that one thing it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different than other sports that really is nostalgic.
Speaker 1: It takes us back and it means more than the
Speaker 1: boring four hours of sitting there for a baseball game.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it were in future. I mean
Speaker 3: from what I've heard, it's on the decline.
Speaker 1: On the decline, but the spirit of that I think
Speaker 1: lives strongly and I loved that.
Speaker 2: I think it's because you can hang easily and comfortably
Speaker 2: to baseball game. Everybody has a seat, you can get
Speaker 2: a hot dog. You're not like you're not for an
Speaker 2: entire inning and not miss anything. No, and you're not
Speaker 2: on bleachers. You have like an actual seat. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to get too much into the sports.
Speaker 1: But it was especially it just made me think about
Speaker 1: why I love sports on that level and what baseball
Speaker 1: meant to me. And it made me think of my
Speaker 1: dad and going there with my brother and it was
Speaker 1: a very special trip. And the Rangers one, we have
Speaker 1: a chance to win the World Series for the first time.
Speaker 1: They came to Dallas the year after I was born,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. We have not one. We're one of
Speaker 1: like six franchises that's never won the stink and Cubs
Speaker 1: have won again.
Speaker 3: Babe. I mean, I don't know, is this going to
Speaker 3: be a line that divides us.
Speaker 2: I just hope they my childhood Cubs, inner Cubs fan
Speaker 2: that hasn't lasted.
Speaker 3: And you're a Rangers fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, all are love to the Rangers. Now let's get into.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, and might love to the folks
Speaker 1: at Arizona amazing. I ran into so many fans, so
Speaker 1: many friends there, and as we were walking to the game,
Speaker 1: some were booing, but we stopped and talked to a
Speaker 1: bunch of people, had a beer with everybody. Friendly, friendly folks.
Speaker 3: Well, let's get.
Speaker 2: Into some not so friendly stuff. Yes, a couple of
Speaker 2: dramatic headlines. Okay, a new headline allegedly justin Timberlake has
Speaker 2: left the country per this headline, per this context, per
Speaker 2: this framing, because of the Britney backlash. Now I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's true. You could also argue that the
Speaker 2: guy's just on vacation with his family. He just went
Speaker 2: to Cabo, but I will say he's turned off his
Speaker 2: Instagram comments.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears obviously one of the most
Speaker 2: famous teen pop couples of all time, and now Britney
Speaker 2: Spears has released her tell all memoir The Woman in Me,
Speaker 2: where she makes several reveals if you've been living under
Speaker 2: a rock and I haven't heard about it, about her
Speaker 2: relationship with Justin Timberlake, including she says that Justin forced
Speaker 2: her to get an abortion that she didn't want to
Speaker 2: have when they were together and they were just teenagers,
Speaker 2: including talking about you know, how in love with him
Speaker 2: she was, how devastated she was and when they broke.
Speaker 1: Up, so she took up with her via a text.
Speaker 3: She says that he cheated on her.
Speaker 2: So this is not playing out well for Justin on
Speaker 2: social media and in the headlines. I I don't want
Speaker 2: to say I have mixed feelings, I but I'm not
Speaker 2: so like anti justin you and I were talking about this,
Speaker 2: I think what's hard today, Well, you made a good point,
Speaker 2: say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I took from all of this because who
Speaker 1: knows what where the truth lies somewhere in between, I'm sure, and.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of By the way I
Speaker 2: think everything Britney's saying it could be true to it.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think she made up that he had
Speaker 3: her have an abortion. It's just my.
Speaker 1: Thought was, relationships just don't go away anymore. When we
Speaker 1: were younger, you know, we harkened back to the old days.
Speaker 1: You broke up with somebody for better or for worse,
Speaker 1: you could just disappear. If I was in LA and
Speaker 1: I moved to New York, You're never gonna hear or
Speaker 1: see from me again. Relationships don't go away anymore because
Speaker 1: of social media, because of text messages, emails, voicemails, video,
Speaker 1: Whatever we have done, we've left a fingerprint that no
Speaker 1: longer disappears after we break up, and so it's harder
Speaker 1: to have a clean breakup. And that's the only maybe
Speaker 1: irony or interesting thing that I found that in this
Speaker 1: memoir she chose to kind of rip that scab off.
Speaker 1: Considering what's happened to her.
Speaker 2: I fully think she needed to tell her side of
Speaker 2: her story of what happened in her conservatorship years.
Speaker 3: I think that she was manipulated.
Speaker 2: I think that she was, as you just said, taken
Speaker 2: advantage of with this conservatorship. Now, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of people, there's a lot of talk about well is
Speaker 2: she any better off now? I mean, everybody has an opinion.
Speaker 2: I'll say this at the end of the day. One
Speaker 2: thing I think from covering the case, from what I
Speaker 2: knew about it, from being there in court, I don't
Speaker 2: understand why her father was ever made her conservatory. He
Speaker 2: had a tumultuous relationship with her and her family. He
Speaker 2: had a history of alcohol issues. If anybody was going
Speaker 2: to be a conservator, I don't know why it was
Speaker 2: that person. And also I questioned the entire conservatorship, but
Speaker 2: that I think she needed.
Speaker 3: To be able to tell her story, to speak out
Speaker 3: to the public.
Speaker 2: She spent over a decade like in silence, not being
Speaker 2: able to communicate, not being so anyway that she was.
Speaker 1: A prisoner in her own life. It was bi.
Speaker 2: Horrible, couldn't pay for her own groceries if she wanted to.
Speaker 2: But that aside, I just think it's hard in any case,
Speaker 2: and like take the social media out of it, because
Speaker 2: if social media didn't exist, someone could still have a celebrity,
Speaker 2: could still have done a tell all memoir years later
Speaker 2: and revealed things. I think it's hard to like make
Speaker 2: reveals about your really youthful relationships, and that people now
Speaker 2: as adults, after decades of growth and change as people,
Speaker 2: would be taken to task for the things they did
Speaker 2: at eighteen. Like that is why I have some sympathy
Speaker 2: for Justin here. I mean, they were literally like eighteen
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: They were Disney dancers together. Weren't they Musketeers?
Speaker 3: Yes, and they were both in the Fame cycle and
Speaker 3: you know so.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, they were children at the time.
Speaker 2: I don't think he deserves the level of hate he's
Speaker 2: probably getting from people.
Speaker 3: I would not want to see.
Speaker 1: He's a grown man now in a marriage with children
Speaker 1: of his own right, And this also fell at a
Speaker 1: very bad time. The memoir came out right as he
Speaker 1: and Jessica Biel celebrating their anniversary. So not a great
Speaker 1: time to celebrate your anniversary, I'm sure Jessica knew most
Speaker 1: of this stuff, but to have it now aired publicly
Speaker 1: and to be dealing with it, the paparazzi, no doubt
Speaker 1: are hounding them and chasing them down. So it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you're answering for for something
Speaker 1: that your husband went through thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Probably, now that being said, I wish, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: Justin should have reached out to Britney sooner, Maybe should
Speaker 2: have tried to connect with her or tried to make
Speaker 2: amends for some things. They certainly had an absolutely massive
Speaker 2: headline making relationship for years, even though it was their
Speaker 2: youth relationship. I think the way that I fall on
Speaker 2: it is I love Brittany. I defend Brittany. Britney deserved
Speaker 2: to tell her stories, but also Justin Timberlake doesn't deserve
Speaker 2: hate vitriol on the level he seems to be getting
Speaker 2: it on.
Speaker 1: So I guess, when you bring this into the real world,
Speaker 1: at what point is it okay or not okay? At
Speaker 1: what point do we say you can't go back and
Speaker 1: revisit this and bring this back up when you got
Speaker 1: to let your relationship go no matter what transgressions, well
Speaker 1: not no matter what, but say there was infidelity when
Speaker 1: you were eighteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old? Not the
Speaker 1: most shocking thing in the world that in high school
Speaker 1: somebody cheated on you.
Speaker 2: Right, which is what we're talking about with Brittany and Justin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they were a high school age. I do
Speaker 2: think people call other people out too much publicly anymore,
Speaker 2: Like why not share your story and not reveal an aim?
Speaker 2: You know? I mean, I guess with Brittany, obviously everyone
Speaker 2: would have known it was Justin. It makes no sense,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have. But yeah, I don't know, do you.
Speaker 2: I guess what you're asking is, do you have the
Speaker 2: right to like publicly air right decades old stories about people?
Speaker 1: Right? If I've moved on, Let's say me, I was
Speaker 1: I was single for quite some time after post my divorce.
Speaker 1: Not every relationship I went into well actually all of
Speaker 1: them didn't end well except for this one with you.
Speaker 1: So how you know, could you go back and say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what to like bringing up say
Speaker 1: Matthew Perry, for example, who tragically passed away last week
Speaker 1: at fifty four years old. What a horrible story, and
Speaker 1: you know, people kind of start talking about him and
Speaker 1: his ex fiance, and people start telling him, like, at
Speaker 1: what point do you just say no, Like, keep this
Speaker 1: stuff private, keep it yourself. But we have this thing
Speaker 1: about the power of knowledge and the power of information
Speaker 1: that we we use that as our currency now, and
Speaker 1: it's such a it's not always gross, but it just
Speaker 1: feels wrong in a lot of instances.
Speaker 2: I agree, Well, let's turn to something we uh someone
Speaker 2: who doesn't share the information.
Speaker 3: Meg Ryan.
Speaker 2: Meg Ryan, talking about her eight year Hollywood hiatus in
Speaker 2: a new interview with Entertainment Tonight, nod to my peeps,
Speaker 2: and she says that she doesn't think she is a
Speaker 2: very good famous person. She says, quote, I just don't
Speaker 2: think I'm a good celebrity. I just always felt a
Speaker 2: little bit like life was over, like outside this little bubble,
Speaker 2: outside some sort of membrane. She says that it's just
Speaker 2: not good for an artist or a creative person to
Speaker 2: have quote limited life in a way to draw from now.
Speaker 2: She makes a really interesting point there, and she also
Speaker 2: does say she says, I have a very charmed life.
Speaker 2: People generally smile and they like she's not being ungrateful,
Speaker 2: but a I think she makes an interesting point about
Speaker 2: like like actors and artists before, not that long ago,
Speaker 2: we're typically well and not most of them are really
Speaker 2: like very poor, you know, and and and people who
Speaker 2: are struggling, and people who like Spotlight life struggles with
Speaker 2: their creativity and need to be in tune with the
Speaker 2: everyman to really perform. So she's talking about when you
Speaker 2: get in that level of fame, it's hard to connect.
Speaker 2: And I totally get that or respect her awareness of that,
Speaker 2: but her being bad at being famous that was very
Speaker 2: interesting to me.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I just saw an interview with
Speaker 1: Ben Fffleck. He virtually said the exact same thing. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at the famous part. I'm not good
Speaker 1: at being famous.
Speaker 2: And what do you think it means to be quote
Speaker 2: good at being famous? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: You like the fame? You like the spot I.
Speaker 1: Think liking it? And he said, Look, have I benefited
Speaker 1: from it? Sure, I've gotten some good reservations, I've gotten
Speaker 1: some tickets to things, he goes, But overall, if I
Speaker 1: could have done this without the fame, I would have
Speaker 1: enjoyed that more. And I do agree with that. I
Speaker 1: understand that part. But you know, when you're talking about
Speaker 1: the mind of an artist, and I think we are.
Speaker 1: Both of us are kind of in the arts. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. When you're dealing with actors comedians, it's different.
Speaker 1: And when you're on the Meg Ryan Fleck level, it
Speaker 1: is so different. They are mega famous.
Speaker 3: You can't go anywhere anytime.
Speaker 2: Well, And speaking of Matthew Perry, as he's tragically passed,
Speaker 2: lots of his notable quotes are being resurfaced. And he said,
Speaker 2: I think in his memoir that fame like he wanted
Speaker 2: to be famous. I never knew this about him.
Speaker 3: He said he.
Speaker 2: Wanted to be famous so badly, and that then he
Speaker 2: realized that fame was like a hole he was never
Speaker 2: going to fill. Like it was that once he got
Speaker 2: that fame, he realized it wasn't going to fulfill him
Speaker 2: and make him happy. And I will say, I don't
Speaker 2: think fame just like extreme levels of success, it's not
Speaker 2: going to get guarantee happiness. I mean, it might help
Speaker 2: you be happy, but it's not going to guarantee happiness.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that looks and sounds a
Speaker 1: lot better than it is. Did you think about that
Speaker 1: when you were going through journalism school and you were
Speaker 1: thinking about the career path. Were you thinking at all
Speaker 1: about that would be cool or I would like that?
Speaker 2: No, I really I actually wanted in school to be
Speaker 2: a magazine journalist. That was my major, magazine journalism. And
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a writer.
Speaker 1: So definitely was not going to be famous.
Speaker 3: Literally behind the page.
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody out there, name all your favorite magazine.
Speaker 2: I know. I just wanted to be a storyteller. I
Speaker 2: wanted to tell good stories. I was not even thinking
Speaker 2: about being on camera until I graduated when the recession
Speaker 2: hit and there were no jobs, and my school had
Speaker 2: a program where there were three spots and you could
Speaker 2: get your master's degree for free in a year, and
Speaker 2: my mom said smartly, she said, look, there's no jobs,
Speaker 2: why don't you try to get that? And I got one,
Speaker 2: and so then I'd already been magazine journalism. So I
Speaker 2: did broadcasts like that's just what happened.
Speaker 1: And let's give Miszoo a shout out. One of the
Speaker 1: finer journalism schools in the country, in the.
Speaker 3: World's the finest is Zou.
Speaker 1: And so I was just interested to know because I
Speaker 1: didn't no, not at all. I stumbled upon this career
Speaker 1: in such a weird way that I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to go into advertising, r PR or something like that.
Speaker 1: I was just playing soccer in college, and then the
Speaker 1: career of broadcasting kind of found me and I started
Speaker 1: doing play by play for the basketball team. So I
Speaker 1: was doing things that didn't I didn't think about notoriety
Speaker 1: at all, and I got into local sports casting because
Speaker 1: I love sports. So I got into I found something
Speaker 1: that I was passionate about, and then later I kind
Speaker 1: of realized, oh, this is another layer of something I
Speaker 1: have to deal with. I was not and luckily I've
Speaker 1: talked about this with Bachelor people. I went on a
Speaker 1: very slow ascent to the top, and think of a
Speaker 1: roller coaster that you where you go on the click click,
Speaker 1: click all the way to the top. Whereas a lot
Speaker 1: of Bachelor people and people on the show, they're shot
Speaker 1: out of a cannon. They go from zero to a
Speaker 1: thousand in a day, and I would think that would
Speaker 1: be remarkably difficult compared to I was able to toughen
Speaker 1: up my skin, make mistakes fall on my face, pick
Speaker 1: myself up, figure out what works, what doesn't work, and
Speaker 1: kind of hone my craft before I ever got to
Speaker 1: the Bachelor.
Speaker 2: I do think what's a little scary about fame is
Speaker 2: like once that switches on, you can't turn it off,
Speaker 2: and no one really prepares you for that. Like like
Speaker 2: think about Meg Ryan. Yeah, she's had a quote hiatus
Speaker 2: from acting for eight years, but guarantee she can't go
Speaker 2: grab a cup of coffee or walk around the streets
Speaker 2: of New York without someone recognizing.
Speaker 1: To say, do the Harry met Sally Pie scene? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw her. I was watching Top Gun Maverick on
Speaker 1: the plane out to the World Series the other day
Speaker 1: and they do the flashback scene with her and Goose
Speaker 1: and they're playing the piano, and I'm like, man, she
Speaker 1: was just so adorable in all of those movies, and
Speaker 1: she was so iconic. She was America's sweetheart, and you
Speaker 1: could name a thousand movies and she was great in
Speaker 1: all of them. I'm a huge fan of hers, and
Speaker 1: I get that that she said she's moved out of
Speaker 1: la living a simpler life. There's a lot of celebrities
Speaker 1: that are now kind of repelling away from I couldn't
Speaker 1: recommend it more.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, I mean not that you know
Speaker 2: I have that level of fame obviously, I don't.
Speaker 1: But like Mark Wahlberg and Jim Carrey and yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of these people have gotten away.
Speaker 3: I just don't love la as a city. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not the best place in the world to live.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I mean it's interesting because if
Speaker 2: you're an actor and you become successful, like if you
Speaker 2: keep working your way up, kind of a guaranteed side
Speaker 2: effect is fame.
Speaker 3: So wow, something to think about. We got deep. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I have a resolution on that.
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for, I think is the
Speaker 1: lesson the takeaway on all these Look, there's benefits in
Speaker 1: pros and cons to every career and business and all that.
Speaker 1: Because I dealt with that too. If people said you
Speaker 1: knew what you signed up for, and I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not think maybe I should have.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that far through the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: was just grinding as you were, and as we all
Speaker 1: do in this business. Because you don't start off rich
Speaker 1: and famous, you start off or poor. No, but no,
Speaker 1: I mean in life sometimes there's trust, fun babies, but
Speaker 1: neither one of us were that. But what I typically
Speaker 1: mean is you were talking about the typical actor. The
Speaker 1: typical actor starts off starve, poored, poor and whatever, and
Speaker 1: there's there's a million was it. Matt LeBlanc talked about.
Speaker 3: Oh, he had like nothing in his bank account when
Speaker 3: he got Friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was down to his last dime.
Speaker 1: And that story is so much more commonplace. And actually
Speaker 1: what's more common is you don't get the friends, you
Speaker 1: don't get Seinfeld, you don't get that. You just kind
Speaker 1: of whittle away and that career never comes to fruition.
Speaker 1: So when it does hit for some select very point
Speaker 1: one percent, it is a phenomenon, and you're not really thinking, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm about to be on Friends for twenty years and
Speaker 1: I will be one of the most recognizable faces in
Speaker 1: all the world.
Speaker 2: One last story to get too. We mentioned it earlier,
Speaker 2: alluded to it green lighting the things that your partner loves,
Speaker 2: or maybe forbidding them from doing something. Jonathan Scott, famous
Speaker 2: interior designer, talking about his upcoming wedding to Zoe da Chanel.
Speaker 3: Congrats to them.
Speaker 2: He went into his first wedding and he said in
Speaker 2: his first wedding, his ex wife quote forbade him from
Speaker 2: having something he loves, bagpipes. Jonathan scott is Scottish. Him
Speaker 2: and his brother Jerba very proud of their Scottish heritage.
Speaker 2: He said it should have been a red flag for
Speaker 2: him at the time, and he loves that Zoe is like,
Speaker 2: I guess she's into him having the backpipe.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, serene. They said. His first wedding was
Speaker 1: out outdoors on a lake, so it would have fit too.
Speaker 1: And the fact that she denied that and forbade it
Speaker 1: from taking place definitely a red flag.
Speaker 3: Although I don't think I would have known it at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you like, if I had said, hey, it's
Speaker 1: really I really want to saxophone or something, or as
Speaker 1: I don't know something at at our wedding and you
Speaker 1: said no, I don't love that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would have.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's how you put it. If you
Speaker 2: go I forbid that, I'm like, WHOA exactly? I think
Speaker 2: that's the red flag. I think if you told me
Speaker 2: something was important to you at the wedding, something meant
Speaker 2: by the way he's talking his heritage like it's important,
Speaker 2: I would say, let's figure out a way to make
Speaker 2: it work, or let's try to figure out to make
Speaker 2: a way to make it work. Let's compromise on something.
Speaker 1: Maybe we bring him in at the reception or write
Speaker 1: something the idea.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything I would forbid you to
Speaker 2: do that was something that you you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 2: it's just I think you've kneeled it.
Speaker 3: That is what is the red flag about it.
Speaker 1: I had two things, a congo line and the chicken dance.
Speaker 1: Those I would oh, the dad jokes are bad. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. Those were in my first wedding, both
Speaker 1: of those things, and I just desperately didn't want them
Speaker 1: to ever take place as we head into our wedding.
Speaker 3: Oh but at your first wedding, Well.
Speaker 1: I wasn't, but it happened. Actually, I probably was cool
Speaker 1: with them at the time. Yeah, I was late in
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the chicken dancer. Yeah it was may
Speaker 2: the line still pops up sometimes. That was such a
Speaker 2: thing at weddings in the nineties.
Speaker 1: But no, I think it is. It is always a
Speaker 1: red flag the way things are put. If you ever,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of anything where you go
Speaker 1: I forbid you to do this, You would ask a
Speaker 1: question of well, why do you want this? Why why
Speaker 1: would you want to go on this trip? Or why
Speaker 1: would you want to do this? And say it kind
Speaker 1: of hurts my feelings or I don't love it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if someone just goes, I forbid.
Speaker 2: It, well, because that's not partnership. Being a partner is
Speaker 2: you're an equal. You're talking it out, You're not hearing.
Speaker 1: A hard pipes.
Speaker 3: I listen, they're divorced.
Speaker 1: So although you did, we go because we love going
Speaker 1: to the Spanish Bay Inn up there in Carmel and Monterey.
Speaker 1: It's one of our favorite places in the world to stay.
Speaker 1: And every night at sunset, one of the great things
Speaker 1: by the fire pit is this. The bagpipe comes out
Speaker 1: and bag pipist artist. I don't know what they are,
Speaker 1: but they anyway they play, and Lauren did say to me,
Speaker 1: however beautiful they are. This is the weirdest instrument in
Speaker 1: the world because it's like a sheep's bladder. Is the
Speaker 1: original thing where they blue air into a sheep's blatter
Speaker 1: and it made this horrible sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like soothing, an enjoyable. It's sort of
Speaker 2: majestic and powerful, but it.
Speaker 1: Does sound like an animal dying if you think about it.
Speaker 3: I also can't imagine.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine forbidding someone at their wedding that's supposed
Speaker 2: to be a day about the two of you, representing you,
Speaker 2: representing your love together, the union.
Speaker 1: The coming together, the circle.
Speaker 3: Enough two individuals. So yeah, I think red flag.
Speaker 2: But look, I also I give him the empathy and
Speaker 2: everyone of I think it's hard to tell in the moment,
Speaker 2: because here's what happens at weddings. You're figuring a lot out,
Speaker 2: you're stressing out, You've got a lot going on.
Speaker 3: You have to make a lot of decisions.
Speaker 2: I could see how like the forbidding of something, or
Speaker 2: you know, you think, oh, it's the bride's day, I've
Speaker 2: got to make the bride happy. I could see how
Speaker 2: red flags. I think actually, even looking back at my
Speaker 2: own first marriage, I think the wedding planning process is
Speaker 2: maybe the easiest place to accidentally look past red flags
Speaker 2: in a relationship, because you think, oh, it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be stressful, it's supposed to be hard.
Speaker 1: You forgive a lot because you're like, oh, it's we're
Speaker 1: just in the.
Speaker 3: Moment, right, We're just on this roller coaster as.
Speaker 1: We creep closer and closer to our wedding how's it
Speaker 1: been for you.
Speaker 2: We're still great, babe, I think so too. Not nothing
Speaker 2: to forbid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I found it interesting because you posted about,
Speaker 1: you know, not having a wedding planner and all that,
Speaker 1: and I think some people still feel we are crazy
Speaker 1: for doing this. But it's worked out, and it's we
Speaker 1: have seen a side of each other and we've again
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, communication is so huge,
Speaker 1: and we've communicated throughout all this.
Speaker 3: We've communicated here today, we have. Let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1: And we'll continue to do that each and every time.
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