WEBVTT - Wedding Warning

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Z mccomedy from the home office

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas. LZ, what do we got today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we should talk a little bit about Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>We just came off of it, and you greenlit and

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<v Speaker 2>supported what I'm I would call my dream. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess our upcoming wedding is my dream, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was also my dream to turn our pantry into a

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<v Speaker 2>Hogwarts esque Harry Potter House sorting room. And it sounds weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but I brought We had a party at our house,

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<v Speaker 2>like a neighborhood party with a bunch of our friends,

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty people, and I was in the closet all night,

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<v Speaker 2>and I brought each guest into the closet with me

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<v Speaker 2>and sorted them into their Harry Potter House and then

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<v Speaker 2>had them take a shot of tequila. And I maintained

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<v Speaker 2>a British accent and full character the entire time as

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<v Speaker 2>Professor Harriet Potter. Anyway, it was my dream, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to ask you, do you find me less

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<v Speaker 2>attractive after that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the idea of the Halloween party was a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was yours because and this whole thing, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody else out there does this. You went to

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<v Speaker 1>Home Goods and you had a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Babe, FYI, most people listening to your podcast have been

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<v Speaker 2>to Home Goods and had a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying has anyone been to home Goods? But you you

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<v Speaker 1>created a party out of a trip to home Goods.

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<v Speaker 1>You came home from Home Goods with a plethora of

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween stuff. It's true you said, I have so much

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<v Speaker 1>great Halloween stuff where you're throwing a party. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious anyone out there not if you went to Home

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<v Speaker 1>Goods or bought the cute soap dispenser or whatever for

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween or Thanksgiving, but have you ever created an event

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<v Speaker 1>a party because you had so much cute stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>a shopping spree you went on. That isn't something that's

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<v Speaker 1>new to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the home version of when you buy an outfit

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<v Speaker 2>and like you want someone somewhere to wear it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said, you know what, screw it, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to create my own event so I can wear this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would imagine I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say yeah, it did. I take it a

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<v Speaker 2>bit to the extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what happened was I wandered into home goods,

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<v Speaker 2>like right when the Halloween stuff had first been put out,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was so much freshly stocked. I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Harry Potter because I re listened to all the

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<v Speaker 2>books every fall and feel festive for like all the holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>because the books have Halloween and Christmas in them, every

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<v Speaker 2>single book anyway. And so yeah, I did. I bought

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. And then I said, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a party. And I also want to thank you

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<v Speaker 2>because you green let us having a party not.

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<v Speaker 3>Too far out from our wedding, which was.

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<v Speaker 1>That it was a lot. That was a big leap

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<v Speaker 1>for us because there's a lot on the plate always

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, and we're not using a coordinator, as we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, and so we've been planning everything, including this

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween party. But when I green let the Halloween party,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was all in because it was our friends

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<v Speaker 1>and it was awesome and and I didn't foresee you

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<v Speaker 1>being in the closet all night. I knew you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do the sorting closet and we had the

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<v Speaker 1>sorting hat and it was awesome, by the way. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so impressed with what you pulled off. That was

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<v Speaker 1>insane on a great level. And I didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>would be fully in character, which was also awesome. I

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<v Speaker 1>found that very attractive. Really, yeah, that was kind of sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you don't love when I do, like my Voldemort.

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<v Speaker 1>Voice totally different. No one is sexy doing Voldemort.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some people out there would beg to differ,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like a bad boy. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a cute British accent and people would go

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<v Speaker 1>into our pantry. Lauren would come out and say, you

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<v Speaker 1>have been chosen, sorted to be sorted right, Oh chosen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm not sure that I intended to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the pantry, Alice.

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<v Speaker 1>It took it took off.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me over once, you know, I feed off

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<v Speaker 2>of the performance. Once people started saying, oh, are you

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<v Speaker 2>not going to break character? I thought to myself, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm not going to break care you did

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<v Speaker 2>and it was fun, you know. I mean, I like festivities,

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<v Speaker 2>I love people. I do think sometimes we overbook ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. It's something we're trying to work on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would always rather be around people than be alone,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you know, the holidays are a time to

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<v Speaker 2>have parties and lean in and I think everybody really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it. But again, I was just very It really

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<v Speaker 2>made me love you. You're always giving me new ways

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<v Speaker 2>to love you. But one of the headlines we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get into today, like ties into this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to bring up how you just said

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<v Speaker 2>yes to the party, yes to my Harry Potter pantry,

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<v Speaker 2>yes to all the things that I love, which was.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful and it was a blast. And look, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to hit on another topic that we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into sometime about overbooking ourselves. It is so easy to

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<v Speaker 1>do during the holidays. You kind of get lost in

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<v Speaker 1>it all and next thing you know, it's January fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what it's like a rule we should set for ourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>should it be we need like between festivities, we need

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<v Speaker 2>a certain of days.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we need a guidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>We at least need hours.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're being funny, I mean serious, we need a guideline.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that guideline would be, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's good to have a down week to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>for the next thing. I don't know if that's possible

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<v Speaker 1>during the holidays though we have stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should maybe say it's hard because other

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<v Speaker 2>people's schedule things, But I think you got to try

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<v Speaker 2>to do one event per weekend. Part of it was

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<v Speaker 2>we also went to see a country concert, Parker McCollum,

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<v Speaker 2>our fave. We went to see him on Friday, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we had the Halloween party on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>And killed it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>We were wiped from the concert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were pretty wipe from the concert. We were

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<v Speaker 1>there with Parker's family, his friends, and we had a

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<v Speaker 1>blast and he absolutely crushed it. Sold out Moody Center.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wrapping up his tour to you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>final two things. I can't imagine how emotional it was

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<v Speaker 1>for him because he purposefully wrapped it up in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>where his family is, and then he went down to

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<v Speaker 1>the Woodlands in Houston where he's from. He's from Conroe,

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<v Speaker 1>so a whirlwind two and then we went right into

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<v Speaker 1>the party the next night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think one thing we need to realize is

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like I'm starting to notice we're very

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<v Speaker 2>social people. We love to be around friends and family

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<v Speaker 2>and put things on and host things. But one, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I end up hosting things a lot. We've noticed this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it is the I mean it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Being a TV host is very different than.

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<v Speaker 1>Hosting a party, but we do like to both host.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're good at like entertaining people, and we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of produce events in our house, so we end

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<v Speaker 2>up posting a lot, and that can be much more

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<v Speaker 2>tiring than obviously just attending an event. But two, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important for us to realize that when we

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<v Speaker 2>are at a party together or when we are in

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<v Speaker 2>a group together, it isn't as good connecting time as

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<v Speaker 2>like a date night.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, So how do I say no to you? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious, Okay, this is for everybody out there in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. How do I say no to you without

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<v Speaker 1>hurting your feelings? Where I can say where you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hey babe, you know what, let's let's host another event tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just have some friends over it. If I how

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<v Speaker 1>do I tactfully say enough, like where we're we need

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<v Speaker 1>to take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly what you're not doing right now? You, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>what you're you don't do what you just did, You

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<v Speaker 2>don't say enough. I think you say. I'm worried about

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<v Speaker 2>you and about us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not connecting.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We have enough time for each other and for and

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to have time for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I want us to have time. I don't want us

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<v Speaker 3>to not be a priority.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's important in the holidays, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have that communication with each other because inevitably one person

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of pushing to do more or less than

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<v Speaker 1>the other person, or booking things. So it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to have those conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I have said no to you the day after

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<v Speaker 2>the party leaving getting on a plane flying to Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>to see the Texas Rangers World Series game?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that too much? That would have been a detriment

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<v Speaker 1>to our relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never That's the problem. We don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>say no to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Two days later, like it was Monday and the party

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<v Speaker 1>was sadday you left on It's like a week later

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<v Speaker 1>I did no Monday. We are taping this tonight. Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Rangers Arizona Diamondbacks were up three to one in the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series. We have a chance to clinch, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know I won't dive into sports too much. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have been a fan of the Rangers since I was

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<v Speaker 1>a child, and here is something that I will talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about sports that I love. So my brother

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<v Speaker 1>and I went out to Game four of the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>We flew out to Arizona and we went together and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a boys trip, just the two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up going to the Ranger games in Arlington

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<v Speaker 1>when we were kids. They sucked my entire life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were horrible, but it didn't matter because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>why we went. We didn't go because they were great

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<v Speaker 1>or not great. We had our favorite players anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was time with my dad. It was time with

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<v Speaker 1>our friends, and we'd take our gloves and sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the outfield and hope to catch a foul ball and

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, a bad sunburn. And those moments with

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<v Speaker 1>my family, my dad, that's what I harkened back to

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<v Speaker 1>when I go. And I was thinking about that when

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the World Series game and we sat

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<v Speaker 1>by a couple of people, a couple of father sons

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<v Speaker 1>that were at the game and the World Series. And

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where you are, whether it's in Texas, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondback fans, I got in an Uber from the airport

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<v Speaker 1>and I was talking to the Uber driver and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys here for the game. We had our Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Ranger gear on. He says, oh, yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Diamondback games with my dad. And it

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<v Speaker 1>just it made me think immediately, it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 1>city you're in, you went to Cubs games with your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>The game of baseball is that one thing it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different than other sports that really is nostalgic.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes us back and it means more than the

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<v Speaker 1>boring four hours of sitting there for a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it were in future. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>from what I've heard, it's on the decline.

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<v Speaker 1>On the decline, but the spirit of that I think

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<v Speaker 1>lives strongly and I loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because you can hang easily and comfortably

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<v Speaker 2>to baseball game. Everybody has a seat, you can get

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<v Speaker 2>a hot dog. You're not like you're not for an

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<v Speaker 2>entire inning and not miss anything. No, and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>on bleachers. You have like an actual seat. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't want to get too much into the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was especially it just made me think about

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<v Speaker 1>why I love sports on that level and what baseball

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<v Speaker 1>meant to me. And it made me think of my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and going there with my brother and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very special trip. And the Rangers one, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win the World Series for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>They came to Dallas the year after I was born,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two. We have not one. We're one of

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<v Speaker 1>like six franchises that's never won the stink and Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>have won again.

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<v Speaker 3>Babe. I mean, I don't know, is this going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a line that divides us.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope they my childhood Cubs, inner Cubs fan

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't lasted.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're a Rangers fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all are love to the Rangers. Now let's get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, and might love to the folks

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<v Speaker 1>at Arizona amazing. I ran into so many fans, so

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<v Speaker 1>many friends there, and as we were walking to the game,

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<v Speaker 1>some were booing, but we stopped and talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people, had a beer with everybody. Friendly, friendly folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's get.

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<v Speaker 2>Into some not so friendly stuff. Yes, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic headlines. Okay, a new headline allegedly justin Timberlake has

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<v Speaker 2>left the country per this headline, per this context, per

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<v Speaker 2>this framing, because of the Britney backlash. Now I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's true. You could also argue that the

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<v Speaker 2>guy's just on vacation with his family. He just went

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<v Speaker 2>to Cabo, but I will say he's turned off his

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears obviously one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>famous teen pop couples of all time, and now Britney

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<v Speaker 2>Spears has released her tell all memoir The Woman in Me,

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<v Speaker 2>where she makes several reveals if you've been living under

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<v Speaker 2>a rock and I haven't heard about it, about her

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Justin Timberlake, including she says that Justin forced

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<v Speaker 2>her to get an abortion that she didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>have when they were together and they were just teenagers,

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<v Speaker 2>including talking about you know, how in love with him

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<v Speaker 2>she was, how devastated she was and when they broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, so she took up with her via a text.

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<v Speaker 3>She says that he cheated on her.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not playing out well for Justin on

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<v Speaker 2>social media and in the headlines. I I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say I have mixed feelings, I but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>so like anti justin you and I were talking about this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's hard today, Well, you made a good point,

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<v Speaker 2>say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what I took from all of this because who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what where the truth lies somewhere in between, I'm sure, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a lot of By the way I

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<v Speaker 2>think everything Britney's saying it could be true to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think she made up that he had

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<v Speaker 3>her have an abortion. It's just my.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought was, relationships just don't go away anymore. When we

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<v Speaker 1>were younger, you know, we harkened back to the old days.

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<v Speaker 1>You broke up with somebody for better or for worse,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just disappear. If I was in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to New York, You're never gonna hear or

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<v Speaker 1>see from me again. Relationships don't go away anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>of social media, because of text messages, emails, voicemails, video,

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever we have done, we've left a fingerprint that no

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<v Speaker 1>longer disappears after we break up, and so it's harder

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<v Speaker 1>to have a clean breakup. And that's the only maybe

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<v Speaker 1>irony or interesting thing that I found that in this

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<v Speaker 1>memoir she chose to kind of rip that scab off.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering what's happened to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I fully think she needed to tell her side of

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<v Speaker 2>her story of what happened in her conservatorship years.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that she was manipulated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that she was, as you just said, taken

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of with this conservatorship. Now, you know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, there's a lot of talk about well is

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<v Speaker 2>she any better off now? I mean, everybody has an opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this at the end of the day. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing I think from covering the case, from what I

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<v Speaker 2>knew about it, from being there in court, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why her father was ever made her conservatory. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a tumultuous relationship with her and her family. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a history of alcohol issues. If anybody was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a conservator, I don't know why it was

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<v Speaker 2>that person. And also I questioned the entire conservatorship, but

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<v Speaker 2>that I think she needed.

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<v Speaker 3>To be able to tell her story, to speak out

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<v Speaker 3>to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>She spent over a decade like in silence, not being

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<v Speaker 2>able to communicate, not being so anyway that she was.

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<v Speaker 1>A prisoner in her own life. It was bi.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrible, couldn't pay for her own groceries if she wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that aside, I just think it's hard in any case,

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<v Speaker 2>and like take the social media out of it, because

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<v Speaker 2>if social media didn't exist, someone could still have a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 2>could still have done a tell all memoir years later

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<v Speaker 2>and revealed things. I think it's hard to like make

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<v Speaker 2>reveals about your really youthful relationships, and that people now

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<v Speaker 2>as adults, after decades of growth and change as people,

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<v Speaker 2>would be taken to task for the things they did

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<v Speaker 2>at eighteen. Like that is why I have some sympathy

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<v Speaker 2>for Justin here. I mean, they were literally like eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>years old.

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<v Speaker 1>They were Disney dancers together. Weren't they Musketeers?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they were both in the Fame cycle and

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<v Speaker 3>you know so.

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<v Speaker 1>They Yeah, they were children at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he deserves the level of hate he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably getting from people.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a grown man now in a marriage with children

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<v Speaker 1>of his own right, And this also fell at a

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<v Speaker 1>very bad time. The memoir came out right as he

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<v Speaker 1>and Jessica Biel celebrating their anniversary. So not a great

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<v Speaker 1>time to celebrate your anniversary, I'm sure Jessica knew most

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, but to have it now aired publicly

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<v Speaker 1>and to be dealing with it, the paparazzi, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>are hounding them and chasing them down. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that you're answering for for something

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<v Speaker 1>that your husband went through thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, now that being said, I wish, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Justin should have reached out to Britney sooner, Maybe should

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<v Speaker 2>have tried to connect with her or tried to make

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<v Speaker 2>amends for some things. They certainly had an absolutely massive

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<v Speaker 2>headline making relationship for years, even though it was their

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<v Speaker 2>youth relationship. I think the way that I fall on

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<v Speaker 2>it is I love Brittany. I defend Brittany. Britney deserved

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her stories, but also Justin Timberlake doesn't deserve

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<v Speaker 2>hate vitriol on the level he seems to be getting

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<v Speaker 2>it on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess, when you bring this into the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point is it okay or not okay? At

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<v Speaker 1>what point do we say you can't go back and

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<v Speaker 1>revisit this and bring this back up when you got

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<v Speaker 1>to let your relationship go no matter what transgressions, well

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<v Speaker 1>not no matter what, but say there was infidelity when

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<v Speaker 1>you were eighteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old? Not the

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<v Speaker 1>most shocking thing in the world that in high school

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<v Speaker 1>somebody cheated on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which is what we're talking about with Brittany and Justin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were a high school age. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think people call other people out too much publicly anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why not share your story and not reveal an aim?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I mean, I guess with Brittany, obviously everyone

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<v Speaker 2>would have known it was Justin. It makes no sense,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have. But yeah, I don't know, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what you're asking is, do you have the

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<v Speaker 2>right to like publicly air right decades old stories about people?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? If I've moved on, Let's say me, I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was single for quite some time after post my divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every relationship I went into well actually all of

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<v Speaker 1>them didn't end well except for this one with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So how you know, could you go back and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what to like bringing up say

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Perry, for example, who tragically passed away last week

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty four years old. What a horrible story, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people kind of start talking about him and

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<v Speaker 1>his ex fiance, and people start telling him, like, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point do you just say no, Like, keep this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff private, keep it yourself. But we have this thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the power of knowledge and the power of information

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<v Speaker 1>that we we use that as our currency now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a it's not always gross, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels wrong in a lot of instances.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Well, let's turn to something we uh someone

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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't share the information.

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<v Speaker 3>Meg Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Meg Ryan, talking about her eight year Hollywood hiatus in

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<v Speaker 2>a new interview with Entertainment Tonight, nod to my peeps,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says that she doesn't think she is a

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<v Speaker 2>very good famous person. She says, quote, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm a good celebrity. I just always felt a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like life was over, like outside this little bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>outside some sort of membrane. She says that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not good for an artist or a creative person to

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<v Speaker 2>have quote limited life in a way to draw from now.

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<v Speaker 2>She makes a really interesting point there, and she also

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<v Speaker 2>does say she says, I have a very charmed life.

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<v Speaker 2>People generally smile and they like she's not being ungrateful,

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<v Speaker 2>but a I think she makes an interesting point about

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<v Speaker 2>like like actors and artists before, not that long ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we're typically well and not most of them are really

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<v Speaker 2>like very poor, you know, and and and people who

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<v Speaker 2>are struggling, and people who like Spotlight life struggles with

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<v Speaker 2>their creativity and need to be in tune with the

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<v Speaker 2>everyman to really perform. So she's talking about when you

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<v Speaker 2>get in that level of fame, it's hard to connect.

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<v Speaker 2>And I totally get that or respect her awareness of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but her being bad at being famous that was very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I just saw an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Fffleck. He virtually said the exact same thing. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at the famous part. I'm not good

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<v Speaker 1>at being famous.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you think it means to be quote

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<v Speaker 2>good at being famous? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>You like the fame? You like the spot I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think liking it? And he said, Look, have I benefited

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<v Speaker 1>from it? Sure, I've gotten some good reservations, I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>some tickets to things, he goes, But overall, if I

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<v Speaker 1>could have done this without the fame, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that more. And I do agree with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that part. But you know, when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the mind of an artist, and I think we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of us are kind of in the arts. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. When you're dealing with actors comedians, it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're on the Meg Ryan Fleck level, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so different. They are mega famous.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't go anywhere anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And speaking of Matthew Perry, as he's tragically passed,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of his notable quotes are being resurfaced. And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in his memoir that fame like he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be famous. I never knew this about him.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to be famous so badly, and that then he

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<v Speaker 2>realized that fame was like a hole he was never

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<v Speaker 2>going to fill. Like it was that once he got

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<v Speaker 2>that fame, he realized it wasn't going to fulfill him

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<v Speaker 2>and make him happy. And I will say, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think fame just like extreme levels of success, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get guarantee happiness. I mean, it might help

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<v Speaker 2>you be happy, but it's not going to guarantee happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things that looks and sounds a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better than it is. Did you think about that

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<v Speaker 1>when you were going through journalism school and you were

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the career path. Were you thinking at all

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<v Speaker 1>about that would be cool or I would like that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I really I actually wanted in school to be

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<v Speaker 2>a magazine journalist. That was my major, magazine journalism. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely was not going to be famous.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally behind the page.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, everybody out there, name all your favorite magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I just wanted to be a storyteller. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to tell good stories. I was not even thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about being on camera until I graduated when the recession

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<v Speaker 2>hit and there were no jobs, and my school had

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<v Speaker 2>a program where there were three spots and you could

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<v Speaker 2>get your master's degree for free in a year, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom said smartly, she said, look, there's no jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you try to get that? And I got one,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then I'd already been magazine journalism. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did broadcasts like that's just what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's give Miszoo a shout out. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>finer journalism schools in the country, in the.

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<v Speaker 3>World's the finest is Zou.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was just interested to know because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't no, not at all. I stumbled upon this career

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<v Speaker 1>in such a weird way that I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go into advertising, r PR or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just playing soccer in college, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>career of broadcasting kind of found me and I started

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<v Speaker 1>doing play by play for the basketball team. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing things that didn't I didn't think about notoriety

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and I got into local sports casting because

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<v Speaker 1>I love sports. So I got into I found something

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<v Speaker 1>that I was passionate about, and then later I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of realized, oh, this is another layer of something I

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with. I was not and luckily I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this with Bachelor people. I went on a

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<v Speaker 1>very slow ascent to the top, and think of a

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster that you where you go on the click click,

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<v Speaker 1>click all the way to the top. Whereas a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Bachelor people and people on the show, they're shot

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<v Speaker 1>out of a cannon. They go from zero to a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand in a day, and I would think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be remarkably difficult compared to I was able to toughen

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<v Speaker 1>up my skin, make mistakes fall on my face, pick

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<v Speaker 1>myself up, figure out what works, what doesn't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hone my craft before I ever got to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think what's a little scary about fame is

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<v Speaker 2>like once that switches on, you can't turn it off,

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<v Speaker 2>and no one really prepares you for that. Like like

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<v Speaker 2>think about Meg Ryan. Yeah, she's had a quote hiatus

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<v Speaker 2>from acting for eight years, but guarantee she can't go

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<v Speaker 2>grab a cup of coffee or walk around the streets

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<v Speaker 2>of New York without someone recognizing.

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<v Speaker 1>To say, do the Harry met Sally Pie scene? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her. I was watching Top Gun Maverick on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane out to the World Series the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and they do the flashback scene with her and Goose

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<v Speaker 1>and they're playing the piano, and I'm like, man, she

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<v Speaker 1>was just so adorable in all of those movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was so iconic. She was America's sweetheart, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could name a thousand movies and she was great in

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. I'm a huge fan of hers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get that that she said she's moved out of

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<v Speaker 1>la living a simpler life. There's a lot of celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>that are now kind of repelling away from I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it more.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, I mean not that you know

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<v Speaker 2>I have that level of fame obviously, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Mark Wahlberg and Jim Carrey and yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these people have gotten away.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't love la as a city. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the best place in the world to live.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, I mean it's interesting because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're an actor and you become successful, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>keep working your way up, kind of a guaranteed side

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<v Speaker 2>effect is fame.

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<v Speaker 3>So wow, something to think about. We got deep. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I have a resolution on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful what you wish for, I think is the

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<v Speaker 1>lesson the takeaway on all these Look, there's benefits in

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<v Speaker 1>pros and cons to every career and business and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I dealt with that too. If people said you

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<v Speaker 1>knew what you signed up for, and I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I did not think maybe I should have.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that far through the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just grinding as you were, and as we all

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<v Speaker 1>do in this business. Because you don't start off rich

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<v Speaker 1>and famous, you start off or poor. No, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in life sometimes there's trust, fun babies, but

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<v Speaker 1>neither one of us were that. But what I typically

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<v Speaker 1>mean is you were talking about the typical actor. The

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<v Speaker 1>typical actor starts off starve, poored, poor and whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a million was it. Matt LeBlanc talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he had like nothing in his bank account when

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<v Speaker 3>he got Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he was down to his last dime.

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<v Speaker 1>And that story is so much more commonplace. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>what's more common is you don't get the friends, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get Seinfeld, you don't get that. You just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of whittle away and that career never comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it does hit for some select very point

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<v Speaker 1>one percent, it is a phenomenon, and you're not really thinking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to be on Friends for twenty years and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be one of the most recognizable faces in

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<v Speaker 1>all the world.

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<v Speaker 2>One last story to get too. We mentioned it earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>alluded to it green lighting the things that your partner loves,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe forbidding them from doing something. Jonathan Scott, famous

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<v Speaker 2>interior designer, talking about his upcoming wedding to Zoe da Chanel.

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<v Speaker 3>Congrats to them.

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<v Speaker 2>He went into his first wedding and he said in

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<v Speaker 2>his first wedding, his ex wife quote forbade him from

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<v Speaker 2>having something he loves, bagpipes. Jonathan scott is Scottish. Him

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<v Speaker 2>and his brother Jerba very proud of their Scottish heritage.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it should have been a red flag for

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<v Speaker 2>him at the time, and he loves that Zoe is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she's into him having the backpipe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful, serene. They said. His first wedding was

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<v Speaker 1>out outdoors on a lake, so it would have fit too.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that she denied that and forbade it

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<v Speaker 1>from taking place definitely a red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I don't think I would have known it at

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you like, if I had said, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really I really want to saxophone or something, or as

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know something at at our wedding and you

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<v Speaker 1>said no, I don't love that. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe it's how you put it. If you

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<v Speaker 2>go I forbid that, I'm like, WHOA exactly? I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the red flag. I think if you told me

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<v Speaker 2>something was important to you at the wedding, something meant

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<v Speaker 2>by the way he's talking his heritage like it's important,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, let's figure out a way to make

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<v Speaker 2>it work, or let's try to figure out to make

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<v Speaker 2>a way to make it work. Let's compromise on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we bring him in at the reception or write

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<v Speaker 1>something the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of anything I would forbid you to

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<v Speaker 2>do that was something that you you know what I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I think you've kneeled it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what is the red flag about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two things, a congo line and the chicken dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Those I would oh, the dad jokes are bad. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking. Those were in my first wedding, both

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<v Speaker 1>of those things, and I just desperately didn't want them

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<v Speaker 1>to ever take place as we head into our wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but at your first wedding, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't, but it happened. Actually, I probably was cool

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<v Speaker 1>with them at the time. Yeah, I was late in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about the chicken dancer. Yeah it was may

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<v Speaker 2>the line still pops up sometimes. That was such a

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<v Speaker 2>thing at weddings in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I think it is. It is always a

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<v Speaker 1>red flag the way things are put. If you ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't think of anything where you go

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<v Speaker 1>I forbid you to do this, You would ask a

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<v Speaker 1>question of well, why do you want this? Why why

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<v Speaker 1>would you want to go on this trip? Or why

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<v Speaker 1>would you want to do this? And say it kind

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>of hurts my feelings or I don't love it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone just goes, I forbid.

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<v Speaker 2>It, well, because that's not partnership. Being a partner is

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>you're an equal. You're talking it out, You're not hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>A hard pipes.

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<v Speaker 3>I listen, they're divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>So although you did, we go because we love going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Spanish Bay Inn up there in Carmel and Monterey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of our favorite places in the world to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And every night at sunset, one of the great things

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<v Speaker 1>by the fire pit is this. The bagpipe comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and bag pipist artist. I don't know what they are,

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>but they anyway they play, and Lauren did say to me,

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<v Speaker 1>however beautiful they are. This is the weirdest instrument in

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<v Speaker 1>the world because it's like a sheep's bladder. Is the

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>original thing where they blue air into a sheep's blatter

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and it made this horrible sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like soothing, an enjoyable. It's sort of

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>majestic and powerful, but it.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Does sound like an animal dying if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I also can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine forbidding someone at their wedding that's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a day about the two of you, representing you,

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>representing your love together, the union.

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<v Speaker 1>The coming together, the circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough two individuals. So yeah, I think red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, I also I give him the empathy and

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone of I think it's hard to tell in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>because here's what happens at weddings. You're figuring a lot out,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you're stressing out, You've got a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to make a lot of decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see how like the forbidding of something, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you think, oh, it's the bride's day, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to make the bride happy. I could see how

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<v Speaker 2>red flags. I think actually, even looking back at my

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<v Speaker 2>own first marriage, I think the wedding planning process is

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the easiest place to accidentally look past red flags

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, because you think, oh, it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be stressful, it's supposed to be hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You forgive a lot because you're like, oh, it's we're

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<v Speaker 1>just in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Moment, right, We're just on this roller coaster as.

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<v Speaker 1>We creep closer and closer to our wedding how's it

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>been for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still great, babe, I think so too. Not nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to forbid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I found it interesting because you posted about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not having a wedding planner and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think some people still feel we are crazy

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>for doing this. But it's worked out, and it's we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen a side of each other and we've again

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, communication is so huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've communicated throughout all this.

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<v Speaker 3>We've communicated here today, we have. Let's wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll continue to do that each and every time.

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<v Speaker 1>And we appreciate talking to you. We love it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk to you again next time because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening.

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