1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Z mccomedy from the home office 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. LZ, what do we got today? 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think we should talk a little bit about Halloween. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: We just came off of it, and you greenlit and 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: supported what I'm I would call my dream. I mean, 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: I guess our upcoming wedding is my dream, but it 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: was also my dream to turn our pantry into a 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Hogwarts esque Harry Potter House sorting room. And it sounds weird, 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: but I brought We had a party at our house, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: like a neighborhood party with a bunch of our friends, 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: about fifty people, and I was in the closet all night, 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: and I brought each guest into the closet with me 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: and sorted them into their Harry Potter House and then 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: had them take a shot of tequila. And I maintained 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: a British accent and full character the entire time as 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: Professor Harriet Potter. Anyway, it was my dream, and I 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: do want to ask you, do you find me less 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: attractive after that? 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: Well, the idea of the Halloween party was a good one. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: It was yours because and this whole thing, I'm curious 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: if anybody else out there does this. You went to 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Home Goods and you had a moment. 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Babe, FYI, most people listening to your podcast have been 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: to Home Goods and had a moment. 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Saying has anyone been to home Goods? But you you 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: created a party out of a trip to home Goods. 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: You came home from Home Goods with a plethora of 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Halloween stuff. It's true you said, I have so much 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: great Halloween stuff where you're throwing a party. So I'm 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: curious anyone out there not if you went to Home 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Goods or bought the cute soap dispenser or whatever for 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Halloween or Thanksgiving, but have you ever created an event 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: a party because you had so much cute stuff from 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: a shopping spree you went on. That isn't something that's 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: new to me. 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: You know what it is. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: It's the home version of when you buy an outfit 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: and like you want someone somewhere to wear it, and. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: You just said, you know what, screw it, I'm going 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: to create my own event so I can wear this. 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine I'm not the only one. 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: I will say yeah, it did. I take it a 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: bit to the extreme. 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Yes. 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: I think what happened was I wandered into home goods, 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: like right when the Halloween stuff had first been put out, 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: so there was so much freshly stocked. I was listening 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: to Harry Potter because I re listened to all the 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: books every fall and feel festive for like all the holidays, 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: because the books have Halloween and Christmas in them, every 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: single book anyway. And so yeah, I did. I bought 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: all this stuff. And then I said, we have to 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: have a party. And I also want to thank you 55 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: because you green let us having a party not. 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: Too far out from our wedding, which was. 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: That it was a lot. That was a big leap 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: for us because there's a lot on the plate always 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: coming up, and we're not using a coordinator, as we've 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: talked about, and so we've been planning everything, including this 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Halloween party. But when I green let the Halloween party, 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: which I was all in because it was our friends 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: and it was awesome and and I didn't foresee you 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: being in the closet all night. I knew you were 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: going to do the sorting closet and we had the 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: sorting hat and it was awesome, by the way. I 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: was so impressed with what you pulled off. That was 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: insane on a great level. And I didn't know you 69 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: would be fully in character, which was also awesome. I 70 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: found that very attractive. Really, yeah, that was kind of sexy. 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: But like you don't love when I do, like my Voldemort. 72 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Voice totally different. No one is sexy doing Voldemort. 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: I think some people out there would beg to differ, 74 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: maybe like a bad boy. I don't know. 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: You had a cute British accent and people would go 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: into our pantry. Lauren would come out and say, you 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: have been chosen, sorted to be sorted right, Oh chosen? 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure that I intended to be in 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: the pantry, Alice. 80 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: It took it took off. 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: It took me over once, you know, I feed off 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: of the performance. Once people started saying, oh, are you 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: not going to break character? I thought to myself, you 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: know what, I'm not going to break care you did 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: and it was fun, you know. I mean, I like festivities, 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: I love people. I do think sometimes we overbook ourselves 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: a little bit. It's something we're trying to work on. 88 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: But I would always rather be around people than be alone, 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: and like you know, the holidays are a time to 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: have parties and lean in and I think everybody really 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. But again, I was just very It really 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: made me love you. You're always giving me new ways 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: to love you. But one of the headlines we're going 94 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: to get into today, like ties into this a little bit. 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: So I wanted to bring up how you just said 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: yes to the party, yes to my Harry Potter pantry, 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: yes to all the things that I love, which was. 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Wonderful and it was a blast. And look, I think 99 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: you're going to hit on another topic that we'll get 100 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: into sometime about overbooking ourselves. It is so easy to 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: do during the holidays. You kind of get lost in 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: it all and next thing you know, it's January fourth. 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Well, what it's like a rule we should set for ourselves, 104 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: should it be we need like between festivities, we need 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: a certain of days. 106 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: I feel like we need a guidelines. 107 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: We at least need hours. 108 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: No, you're being funny, I mean serious, we need a guideline. 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what that guideline would be, but I 110 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: think it's good to have a down week to prepare 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: for the next thing. I don't know if that's possible 112 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: during the holidays though we have stuff. 113 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: I think we should maybe say it's hard because other 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 2: people's schedule things, But I think you got to try 115 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: to do one event per weekend. Part of it was 116 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: we also went to see a country concert, Parker McCollum, 117 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: our fave. We went to see him on Friday, and 118 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: then we had the Halloween party on Saturday. 119 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: And killed it was awesome. 120 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: We were wiped from the concert. 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were pretty wipe from the concert. We were 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: there with Parker's family, his friends, and we had a 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: blast and he absolutely crushed it. Sold out Moody Center. 124 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: He was wrapping up his tour to you know, his 125 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: final two things. I can't imagine how emotional it was 126 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: for him because he purposefully wrapped it up in Austin, 127 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: where his family is, and then he went down to 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: the Woodlands in Houston where he's from. He's from Conroe, 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: so a whirlwind two and then we went right into 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the party the next night. 131 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: So I think one thing we need to realize is 132 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: that I feel like I'm starting to notice we're very 133 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: social people. We love to be around friends and family 134 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: and put things on and host things. But one, you 135 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: and I end up hosting things a lot. We've noticed this. 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if it is the I mean it's not. 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: Being a TV host is very different than. 138 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: Hosting a party, but we do like to both host. 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: I think we're good at like entertaining people, and we 140 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: kind of produce events in our house, so we end 141 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: up posting a lot, and that can be much more 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: tiring than obviously just attending an event. But two, I 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: think it's important for us to realize that when we 144 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: are at a party together or when we are in 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: a group together, it isn't as good connecting time as 146 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: like a date night. 147 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Of course, So how do I say no to you? No, 148 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm serious, Okay, this is for everybody out there in 149 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: a relationship. How do I say no to you without 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: hurting your feelings? Where I can say where you're like, hey, 151 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: hey babe, you know what, let's let's host another event tuesday, 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: Let's just have some friends over it. If I how 153 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: do I tactfully say enough, like where we're we need 154 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to take it. 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Exactly what you're not doing right now? You, I mean 156 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: what you're you don't do what you just did, You 157 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: don't say enough. I think you say. I'm worried about 158 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: you and about us. 159 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: We're not connecting. 160 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 3: I want to make sure. 161 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: We have enough time for each other and for and 162 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: I want you to have time for yourself. 163 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I want us to have time. I don't want us 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: to not be a priority. 165 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I think that's important in the holidays, you got to 166 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: have that communication with each other because inevitably one person 167 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: is kind of pushing to do more or less than 168 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: the other person, or booking things. So it's I think 169 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: it's good to have those conversations. 170 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Should I have said no to you the day after 171 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: the party leaving getting on a plane flying to Arizona 172 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: to see the Texas Rangers World Series game? 173 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Was that too much? That would have been a detriment 174 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: to our relationship. 175 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: I would never That's the problem. We don't want to 176 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: say no to each other. 177 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Two days later, like it was Monday and the party 178 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: was sadday you left on It's like a week later 179 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: I did no Monday. We are taping this tonight. Texas 180 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Rangers Arizona Diamondbacks were up three to one in the 181 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: World Series. We have a chance to clinch, so I 182 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: know I won't dive into sports too much. But I 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: have been a fan of the Rangers since I was 184 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: a child, and here is something that I will talk 185 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: to you about sports that I love. So my brother 186 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: and I went out to Game four of the World Series. 187 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: We flew out to Arizona and we went together and 188 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: it was a boys trip, just the two of us. 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: We grew up going to the Ranger games in Arlington 190 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: when we were kids. They sucked my entire life. I mean, 191 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: they were horrible, but it didn't matter because that's not 192 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: why we went. We didn't go because they were great 193 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: or not great. We had our favorite players anyway, but 194 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: it was time with my dad. It was time with 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: our friends, and we'd take our gloves and sit in 196 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: the outfield and hope to catch a foul ball and 197 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: if nothing else, a bad sunburn. And those moments with 198 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: my family, my dad, that's what I harkened back to 199 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: when I go. And I was thinking about that when 200 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I went to the World Series game and we sat 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: by a couple of people, a couple of father sons 202 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: that were at the game and the World Series. And 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, whether it's in Texas, Arizona, 204 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: Diamondback fans, I got in an Uber from the airport 205 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: and I was talking to the Uber driver and he says, 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: you guys here for the game. We had our Texas 207 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Ranger gear on. He says, oh, yeah, I used to 208 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: go to the Diamondback games with my dad. And it 209 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: just it made me think immediately, it doesn't matter what 210 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: city you're in, you went to Cubs games with your dad. 211 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: The game of baseball is that one thing it's a 212 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: little bit different than other sports that really is nostalgic. 213 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: It takes us back and it means more than the 214 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: boring four hours of sitting there for a baseball game. 215 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if it were in future. I mean 216 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: from what I've heard, it's on the decline. 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: On the decline, but the spirit of that I think 218 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: lives strongly and I loved that. 219 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: I think it's because you can hang easily and comfortably 220 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: to baseball game. Everybody has a seat, you can get 221 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: a hot dog. You're not like you're not for an 222 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: entire inning and not miss anything. No, and you're not 223 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: on bleachers. You have like an actual seat. Anyway. 224 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to get too much into the sports. 225 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: But it was especially it just made me think about 226 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: why I love sports on that level and what baseball 227 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: meant to me. And it made me think of my 228 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: dad and going there with my brother and it was 229 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: a very special trip. And the Rangers one, we have 230 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: a chance to win the World Series for the first time. 231 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: They came to Dallas the year after I was born, 232 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. We have not one. We're one of 233 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: like six franchises that's never won the stink and Cubs 234 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: have won again. 235 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: Babe. I mean, I don't know, is this going to 236 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: be a line that divides us. 237 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: I just hope they my childhood Cubs, inner Cubs fan 238 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: that hasn't lasted. 239 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: And you're a Rangers fan. 240 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: Okay, all are love to the Rangers. Now let's get into. 241 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, and might love to the folks 242 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: at Arizona amazing. I ran into so many fans, so 243 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: many friends there, and as we were walking to the game, 244 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: some were booing, but we stopped and talked to a 245 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: bunch of people, had a beer with everybody. Friendly, friendly folks. 246 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: Well, let's get. 247 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: Into some not so friendly stuff. Yes, a couple of 248 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: dramatic headlines. Okay, a new headline allegedly justin Timberlake has 249 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: left the country per this headline, per this context, per 250 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: this framing, because of the Britney backlash. Now I don't 251 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: know if that's true. You could also argue that the 252 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: guy's just on vacation with his family. He just went 253 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: to Cabo, but I will say he's turned off his 254 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: Instagram comments. 255 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Ye. 256 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears obviously one of the most 257 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: famous teen pop couples of all time, and now Britney 258 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: Spears has released her tell all memoir The Woman in Me, 259 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: where she makes several reveals if you've been living under 260 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: a rock and I haven't heard about it, about her 261 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: relationship with Justin Timberlake, including she says that Justin forced 262 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: her to get an abortion that she didn't want to 263 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: have when they were together and they were just teenagers, 264 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: including talking about you know, how in love with him 265 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: she was, how devastated she was and when they broke. 266 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Up, so she took up with her via a text. 267 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: She says that he cheated on her. 268 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: So this is not playing out well for Justin on 269 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: social media and in the headlines. I I don't want 270 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: to say I have mixed feelings, I but I'm not 271 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: so like anti justin you and I were talking about this, 272 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: I think what's hard today, Well, you made a good point, 273 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 2: say it. 274 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I took from all of this because who 275 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: knows what where the truth lies somewhere in between, I'm sure, and. 276 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of By the way I 277 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: think everything Britney's saying it could be true to it. 278 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: Like I don't think she made up that he had 279 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: her have an abortion. It's just my. 280 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: Thought was, relationships just don't go away anymore. When we 281 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: were younger, you know, we harkened back to the old days. 282 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: You broke up with somebody for better or for worse, 283 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: you could just disappear. If I was in LA and 284 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I moved to New York, You're never gonna hear or 285 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: see from me again. Relationships don't go away anymore because 286 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: of social media, because of text messages, emails, voicemails, video, 287 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Whatever we have done, we've left a fingerprint that no 288 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: longer disappears after we break up, and so it's harder 289 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: to have a clean breakup. And that's the only maybe 290 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: irony or interesting thing that I found that in this 291 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: memoir she chose to kind of rip that scab off. 292 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: Considering what's happened to her. 293 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: I fully think she needed to tell her side of 294 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: her story of what happened in her conservatorship years. 295 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: I think that she was manipulated. 296 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: I think that she was, as you just said, taken 297 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: advantage of with this conservatorship. Now, you know a lot 298 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: of people, there's a lot of talk about well is 299 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: she any better off now? I mean, everybody has an opinion. 300 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: I'll say this at the end of the day. One 301 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: thing I think from covering the case, from what I 302 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: knew about it, from being there in court, I don't 303 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: understand why her father was ever made her conservatory. He 304 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: had a tumultuous relationship with her and her family. He 305 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: had a history of alcohol issues. If anybody was going 306 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: to be a conservator, I don't know why it was 307 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: that person. And also I questioned the entire conservatorship, but 308 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: that I think she needed. 309 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: To be able to tell her story, to speak out 310 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: to the public. 311 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: She spent over a decade like in silence, not being 312 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: able to communicate, not being so anyway that she was. 313 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: A prisoner in her own life. It was bi. 314 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: Horrible, couldn't pay for her own groceries if she wanted to. 315 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: But that aside, I just think it's hard in any case, 316 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: and like take the social media out of it, because 317 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: if social media didn't exist, someone could still have a celebrity, 318 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: could still have done a tell all memoir years later 319 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: and revealed things. I think it's hard to like make 320 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: reveals about your really youthful relationships, and that people now 321 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: as adults, after decades of growth and change as people, 322 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: would be taken to task for the things they did 323 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: at eighteen. Like that is why I have some sympathy 324 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: for Justin here. I mean, they were literally like eighteen 325 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: years old. 326 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: They were Disney dancers together. Weren't they Musketeers? 327 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: Yes, and they were both in the Fame cycle and 328 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: you know so. 329 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: They Yeah, they were children at the time. 330 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: I don't think he deserves the level of hate he's 331 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: probably getting from people. 332 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: I would not want to see. 333 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: He's a grown man now in a marriage with children 334 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: of his own right, And this also fell at a 335 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: very bad time. The memoir came out right as he 336 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: and Jessica Biel celebrating their anniversary. So not a great 337 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: time to celebrate your anniversary, I'm sure Jessica knew most 338 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: of this stuff, but to have it now aired publicly 339 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: and to be dealing with it, the paparazzi, no doubt 340 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: are hounding them and chasing them down. So it's just 341 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you're answering for for something 342 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: that your husband went through thirty years ago. 343 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Probably, now that being said, I wish, you know, maybe 344 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Justin should have reached out to Britney sooner, Maybe should 345 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: have tried to connect with her or tried to make 346 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: amends for some things. They certainly had an absolutely massive 347 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: headline making relationship for years, even though it was their 348 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: youth relationship. I think the way that I fall on 349 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: it is I love Brittany. I defend Brittany. Britney deserved 350 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: to tell her stories, but also Justin Timberlake doesn't deserve 351 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: hate vitriol on the level he seems to be getting 352 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: it on. 353 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: So I guess, when you bring this into the real world, 354 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: at what point is it okay or not okay? At 355 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: what point do we say you can't go back and 356 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: revisit this and bring this back up when you got 357 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: to let your relationship go no matter what transgressions, well 358 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: not no matter what, but say there was infidelity when 359 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: you were eighteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old? Not the 360 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: most shocking thing in the world that in high school 361 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: somebody cheated on you. 362 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: Right, which is what we're talking about with Brittany and Justin. Yeah, 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: I mean they were a high school age. I do 364 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: think people call other people out too much publicly anymore, 365 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: Like why not share your story and not reveal an aim? 366 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: You know? I mean, I guess with Brittany, obviously everyone 367 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: would have known it was Justin. It makes no sense, 368 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have. But yeah, I don't know, do you. 369 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: I guess what you're asking is, do you have the 370 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: right to like publicly air right decades old stories about people? 371 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: Right? If I've moved on, Let's say me, I was 372 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: I was single for quite some time after post my divorce. 373 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Not every relationship I went into well actually all of 374 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: them didn't end well except for this one with you. 375 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: So how you know, could you go back and say, oh, well, 376 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know what to like bringing up say 377 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: Matthew Perry, for example, who tragically passed away last week 378 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: at fifty four years old. What a horrible story, and 379 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, people kind of start talking about him and 380 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: his ex fiance, and people start telling him, like, at 381 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: what point do you just say no, Like, keep this 382 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: stuff private, keep it yourself. But we have this thing 383 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: about the power of knowledge and the power of information 384 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: that we we use that as our currency now, and 385 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: it's such a it's not always gross, but it just 386 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: feels wrong in a lot of instances. 387 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: I agree, Well, let's turn to something we uh someone 388 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: who doesn't share the information. 389 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: Meg Ryan. 390 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: Meg Ryan, talking about her eight year Hollywood hiatus in 391 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: a new interview with Entertainment Tonight, nod to my peeps, 392 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: and she says that she doesn't think she is a 393 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: very good famous person. She says, quote, I just don't 394 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: think I'm a good celebrity. I just always felt a 395 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: little bit like life was over, like outside this little bubble, 396 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: outside some sort of membrane. She says that it's just 397 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: not good for an artist or a creative person to 398 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: have quote limited life in a way to draw from now. 399 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: She makes a really interesting point there, and she also 400 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: does say she says, I have a very charmed life. 401 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: People generally smile and they like she's not being ungrateful, 402 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: but a I think she makes an interesting point about 403 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: like like actors and artists before, not that long ago, 404 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: we're typically well and not most of them are really 405 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: like very poor, you know, and and and people who 406 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: are struggling, and people who like Spotlight life struggles with 407 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: their creativity and need to be in tune with the 408 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: everyman to really perform. So she's talking about when you 409 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: get in that level of fame, it's hard to connect. 410 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: And I totally get that or respect her awareness of that, 411 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 2: but her being bad at being famous that was very 412 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 2: interesting to me. 413 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I just saw an interview with 414 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Ben Fffleck. He virtually said the exact same thing. He goes, 415 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm not good at the famous part. I'm not good 416 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: at being famous. 417 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: And what do you think it means to be quote 418 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: good at being famous? What does that mean? 419 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: You like the fame? You like the spot I. 420 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Think liking it? And he said, Look, have I benefited 421 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: from it? Sure, I've gotten some good reservations, I've gotten 422 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: some tickets to things, he goes, But overall, if I 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: could have done this without the fame, I would have 424 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed that more. And I do agree with that. I 425 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: understand that part. But you know, when you're talking about 426 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: the mind of an artist, and I think we are. 427 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Both of us are kind of in the arts. But 428 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. When you're dealing with actors comedians, it's different. 429 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: And when you're on the Meg Ryan Fleck level, it 430 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: is so different. They are mega famous. 431 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: You can't go anywhere anytime. 432 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, And speaking of Matthew Perry, as he's tragically passed, 433 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: lots of his notable quotes are being resurfaced. And he said, 434 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: I think in his memoir that fame like he wanted 435 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: to be famous. I never knew this about him. 436 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: He said he. 437 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 2: Wanted to be famous so badly, and that then he 438 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: realized that fame was like a hole he was never 439 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: going to fill. Like it was that once he got 440 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: that fame, he realized it wasn't going to fulfill him 441 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: and make him happy. And I will say, I don't 442 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: think fame just like extreme levels of success, it's not 443 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: going to get guarantee happiness. I mean, it might help 444 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: you be happy, but it's not going to guarantee happiness. 445 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: It's one of those things that looks and sounds a 446 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: lot better than it is. Did you think about that 447 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: when you were going through journalism school and you were 448 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: thinking about the career path. Were you thinking at all 449 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: about that would be cool or I would like that? 450 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: No, I really I actually wanted in school to be 451 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: a magazine journalist. That was my major, magazine journalism. And 452 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a writer. 453 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: So definitely was not going to be famous. 454 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: Literally behind the page. 455 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody out there, name all your favorite magazine. 456 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: I know. I just wanted to be a storyteller. I 457 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: wanted to tell good stories. I was not even thinking 458 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: about being on camera until I graduated when the recession 459 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: hit and there were no jobs, and my school had 460 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: a program where there were three spots and you could 461 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: get your master's degree for free in a year, and 462 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: my mom said smartly, she said, look, there's no jobs, 463 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: why don't you try to get that? And I got one, 464 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: and so then I'd already been magazine journalism. So I 465 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: did broadcasts like that's just what happened. 466 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: And let's give Miszoo a shout out. One of the 467 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: finer journalism schools in the country, in the. 468 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: World's the finest is Zou. 469 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: And so I was just interested to know because I 470 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: didn't no, not at all. I stumbled upon this career 471 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: in such a weird way that I thought I was 472 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: going to go into advertising, r PR or something like that. 473 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: I was just playing soccer in college, and then the 474 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: career of broadcasting kind of found me and I started 475 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: doing play by play for the basketball team. So I 476 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: was doing things that didn't I didn't think about notoriety 477 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: at all, and I got into local sports casting because 478 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I love sports. So I got into I found something 479 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: that I was passionate about, and then later I kind 480 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: of realized, oh, this is another layer of something I 481 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: have to deal with. I was not and luckily I've 482 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: talked about this with Bachelor people. I went on a 483 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: very slow ascent to the top, and think of a 484 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: roller coaster that you where you go on the click click, 485 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: click all the way to the top. Whereas a lot 486 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: of Bachelor people and people on the show, they're shot 487 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: out of a cannon. They go from zero to a 488 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: thousand in a day, and I would think that would 489 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: be remarkably difficult compared to I was able to toughen 490 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: up my skin, make mistakes fall on my face, pick 491 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: myself up, figure out what works, what doesn't work, and 492 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: kind of hone my craft before I ever got to 493 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. 494 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: I do think what's a little scary about fame is 495 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: like once that switches on, you can't turn it off, 496 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: and no one really prepares you for that. Like like 497 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: think about Meg Ryan. Yeah, she's had a quote hiatus 498 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: from acting for eight years, but guarantee she can't go 499 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: grab a cup of coffee or walk around the streets 500 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: of New York without someone recognizing. 501 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: To say, do the Harry met Sally Pie scene? Yeah, 502 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I saw her. I was watching Top Gun Maverick on 503 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: the plane out to the World Series the other day 504 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: and they do the flashback scene with her and Goose 505 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: and they're playing the piano, and I'm like, man, she 506 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: was just so adorable in all of those movies, and 507 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: she was so iconic. She was America's sweetheart, and you 508 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: could name a thousand movies and she was great in 509 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: all of them. I'm a huge fan of hers, and 510 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: I get that that she said she's moved out of 511 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: la living a simpler life. There's a lot of celebrities 512 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: that are now kind of repelling away from I couldn't 513 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: recommend it more. 514 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean, I mean not that you know 515 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: I have that level of fame obviously, I don't. 516 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: But like Mark Wahlberg and Jim Carrey and yeah, a 517 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: lot of these people have gotten away. 518 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: I just don't love la as a city. I mean, 519 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: it's not the best place in the world to live. 520 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I mean it's interesting because if 521 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: you're an actor and you become successful, like if you 522 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: keep working your way up, kind of a guaranteed side 523 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: effect is fame. 524 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: So wow, something to think about. We got deep. I 525 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: don't know if I have a resolution on that. 526 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for, I think is the 527 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: lesson the takeaway on all these Look, there's benefits in 528 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: pros and cons to every career and business and all that. 529 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Because I dealt with that too. If people said you 530 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: knew what you signed up for, and I'll be honest, 531 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not think maybe I should have. 532 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think that far through the whole thing. I 533 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: was just grinding as you were, and as we all 534 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: do in this business. Because you don't start off rich 535 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: and famous, you start off or poor. No, but no, 536 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean in life sometimes there's trust, fun babies, but 537 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: neither one of us were that. But what I typically 538 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: mean is you were talking about the typical actor. The 539 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: typical actor starts off starve, poored, poor and whatever, and 540 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a million was it. Matt LeBlanc talked about. 541 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: Oh, he had like nothing in his bank account when 542 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: he got Friends. 543 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was down to his last dime. 544 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: And that story is so much more commonplace. And actually 545 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: what's more common is you don't get the friends, you 546 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: don't get Seinfeld, you don't get that. You just kind 547 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: of whittle away and that career never comes to fruition. 548 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: So when it does hit for some select very point 549 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: one percent, it is a phenomenon, and you're not really thinking, Oh, 550 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm about to be on Friends for twenty years and 551 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I will be one of the most recognizable faces in 552 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: all the world. 553 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: One last story to get too. We mentioned it earlier, 554 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 2: alluded to it green lighting the things that your partner loves, 555 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: or maybe forbidding them from doing something. Jonathan Scott, famous 556 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: interior designer, talking about his upcoming wedding to Zoe da Chanel. 557 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: Congrats to them. 558 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: He went into his first wedding and he said in 559 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: his first wedding, his ex wife quote forbade him from 560 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: having something he loves, bagpipes. Jonathan scott is Scottish. Him 561 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: and his brother Jerba very proud of their Scottish heritage. 562 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: He said it should have been a red flag for 563 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: him at the time, and he loves that Zoe is like, 564 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 2: I guess she's into him having the backpipe. 565 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: It was beautiful, serene. They said. His first wedding was 566 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: out outdoors on a lake, so it would have fit too. 567 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that she denied that and forbade it 568 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: from taking place definitely a red flag. 569 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 3: Although I don't think I would have known it at 570 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: the time. 571 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you like, if I had said, hey, it's 572 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: really I really want to saxophone or something, or as 573 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't know something at at our wedding and you 574 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: said no, I don't love that. I don't know if 575 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: I would have. 576 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's how you put it. If you 577 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: go I forbid that, I'm like, WHOA exactly? I think 578 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: that's the red flag. I think if you told me 579 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: something was important to you at the wedding, something meant 580 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: by the way he's talking his heritage like it's important, 581 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: I would say, let's figure out a way to make 582 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 2: it work, or let's try to figure out to make 583 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: a way to make it work. Let's compromise on something. 584 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we bring him in at the reception or write 585 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: something the idea. 586 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: I can't think of anything I would forbid you to 587 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: do that was something that you you know what I mean, like, 588 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: it's just I think you've kneeled it. 589 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: That is what is the red flag about it. 590 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I had two things, a congo line and the chicken dance. 591 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: Those I would oh, the dad jokes are bad. No, 592 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm not joking. Those were in my first wedding, both 593 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: of those things, and I just desperately didn't want them 594 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: to ever take place as we head into our wedding. 595 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: Oh but at your first wedding, Well. 596 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't, but it happened. Actually, I probably was cool 597 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: with them at the time. Yeah, I was late in 598 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: the nineties. 599 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: I forgot about the chicken dancer. Yeah it was may 600 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: the line still pops up sometimes. That was such a 601 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: thing at weddings in the nineties. 602 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: But no, I think it is. It is always a 603 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: red flag the way things are put. If you ever, 604 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of anything where you go 605 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I forbid you to do this, You would ask a 606 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: question of well, why do you want this? Why why 607 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: would you want to go on this trip? Or why 608 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: would you want to do this? And say it kind 609 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: of hurts my feelings or I don't love it. But yeah, 610 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: if someone just goes, I forbid. 611 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: It, well, because that's not partnership. Being a partner is 612 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: you're an equal. You're talking it out, You're not hearing. 613 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: A hard pipes. 614 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: I listen, they're divorced. 615 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: So although you did, we go because we love going 616 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: to the Spanish Bay Inn up there in Carmel and Monterey. 617 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: It's one of our favorite places in the world to stay. 618 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: And every night at sunset, one of the great things 619 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: by the fire pit is this. The bagpipe comes out 620 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: and bag pipist artist. I don't know what they are, 621 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: but they anyway they play, and Lauren did say to me, 622 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: however beautiful they are. This is the weirdest instrument in 623 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: the world because it's like a sheep's bladder. Is the 624 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: original thing where they blue air into a sheep's blatter 625 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: and it made this horrible sound. 626 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like soothing, an enjoyable. It's sort of 627 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: majestic and powerful, but it. 628 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Does sound like an animal dying if you think about it. 629 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: I also can't imagine. 630 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: Can you imagine forbidding someone at their wedding that's supposed 631 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: to be a day about the two of you, representing you, 632 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: representing your love together, the union. 633 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: The coming together, the circle. 634 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: Enough two individuals. So yeah, I think red flag. 635 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: But look, I also I give him the empathy and 636 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: everyone of I think it's hard to tell in the moment, 637 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: because here's what happens at weddings. You're figuring a lot out, 638 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: you're stressing out, You've got a lot going on. 639 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: You have to make a lot of decisions. 640 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: I could see how like the forbidding of something, or 641 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, you think, oh, it's the bride's day, I've 642 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: got to make the bride happy. I could see how 643 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: red flags. I think actually, even looking back at my 644 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: own first marriage, I think the wedding planning process is 645 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: maybe the easiest place to accidentally look past red flags 646 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: in a relationship, because you think, oh, it's supposed to 647 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: be stressful, it's supposed to be hard. 648 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: You forgive a lot because you're like, oh, it's we're 649 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: just in the. 650 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: Moment, right, We're just on this roller coaster as. 651 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: We creep closer and closer to our wedding how's it 652 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: been for you. 653 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: We're still great, babe, I think so too. Not nothing 654 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: to forbid. 655 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I found it interesting because you posted about, 656 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, not having a wedding planner and all that, 657 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: and I think some people still feel we are crazy 658 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: for doing this. But it's worked out, and it's we 659 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: have seen a side of each other and we've again 660 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, communication is so huge, 661 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: and we've communicated throughout all this. 662 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: We've communicated here today, we have. 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