1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Commissioner of Major League Baseball since twenty fifteen, Rob Manfred 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: back on the program. We spent a lot of time 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: yesterday talking about ABS, but I want to know how 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: did we land on robo umps. I don't like the phrase. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: It conjures up something that I think needs to be explained. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Dan, it's interesting. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 4: I was with a couple of my guys traveling yesterday 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: and I said exactly the same thing, and I've said 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: it repeatedly. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that the matter is the system was. 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: Designed in order to preserve kind of the management role 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: of the home plate umpire. It's completely invisible to the fan, right, 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: I mean in terms of there's no device or anything 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: on the field that they can see, and all of 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: the calls, including correcting an erroneous fall strike call by 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 4: human being from the fans perspective. So you know, we 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 4: do prefer the term ABS to robot lumps. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay, this is an entertainment business. Are you going to 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: show anything on the jumbo tron? You know, like tennis 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: will show you if the ball was in or out? 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: What is baseball going to do? 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: We are going to have a rendering on the scoreboard 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: so the fans can see it. I mean, you know, 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it is about the 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: fan experience in the ballpark and our experience in the 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: minor leagues, as well as the testing we did in 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: the spring and at the All Star Game suggests that 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 4: fans are really interested in seeing that rendering. 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: How do the umpires feel about big Brother over their shoulder? 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: I would say the umpires have been generally cooperative on 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: the issue. 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: You know. 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's always tough when you get corrected publicly, 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: and you know, I understand that, and you know it 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: is important to say although we've taken this step, you know, 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: our umpires do a phenomenal job on the vast, vast 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: majority of calls, and you know, I think over time 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: this may reduce the amount of complaining we have about 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: ball strike calls. 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 2: Okay, whenever I see something that we kind of dip 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: our toes in and then all of a sudden we're 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: in over our head, then this is going to be 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: the future of Major League Baseball. How long will it 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: take before this is the future? 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: You know, that's an interesting question. 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: I think that if you had talked just to the 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: owners about this topic a couple of years ago, they 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: would have been in favor of, you know, calling every pitch, 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: and we're certainly capable of doing that, calling every pitch 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: with ABS. I think what made us take the intermediate 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: step is we got a lot of input from players, 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: particularly players who had used it in the minor leagues, 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: that they preferred the challenge system, that you know, it 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 4: preserved a human element in the game at the major 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: league level. We also got a lot of input about 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: the significance of framing catchers and you know, individual players 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: who had a skill set that could be really impacted 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: by this. So, you know, we took that input to 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: heart and landed where we did. I think that we 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: will see after the twenty sixth season whether there's a 63 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: push to go. 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: The whole way. 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Why did we allow is if it was part of 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: the charm of baseball that an umpire could have his 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: own strike zone. 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, going back to you know, when I 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: first came to the Commissioner's office in nineteen ninety eight, 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: actually Sandy Alderson and I started the first the same day, 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: and you know, one of the. 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: First things Sandy embarked on was an effort to get. 73 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: Away from that notion that individual umpires could have their 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: own strike zone, and we had have dramatically increased the 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: uniformity of the zone that's called by our umpires by 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: having a computer based system like ABS that we've been 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: using to evaluate umpires for more than a decade. 78 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: You know, after each game when they miss a. 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: Call, they get that pitch, they have to log in 80 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: and look at it, and it has produced greater uniformity. 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: Okay, but it was a charm, you know, like that's 82 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: Joe West strike zone or that's Eric Gregg's strike zone 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: or Yeah. 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: The problem. 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: The problem is sometimes you know, you talk about people 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 4: who are just too charming. You know, I think there 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: were games where that charm became excessive. I mean, I 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: think Eric Greg's game in the World Series probably an 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: example of that. 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred. Okay, 91 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: give me the data to help me understand starting the 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: tenth inning with the runner at second base, which I 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: do to test. But where are we with that? Is 94 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: that here to stay? Commissioner? 95 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Well, look, the most. 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: Important thing I can say to you is, starting next week, 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: you're gonna have postseason baseball where you play it out 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: no matter what. So your your month is coming, it's 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: gonna be a great postseason, and we're gonna play the 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: games out again. You know. 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: Look, I think that that was interesting. 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that was at the top of my 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: priority list in terms of rule changes, but it came 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: with the COVID changes that we, you know, felt we 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: needed to do to get through the season. 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: The players really. 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: Liked it, and I think the push to keep it 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: was based on, you know, player preference and avoidance of 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: putting you know, really valuable players in positions of asking 110 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 4: them to do something in extra innings that they didn't 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: ordinarily do you know, the outfielder pitching, And you know, 112 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: I do think it is consistent kind of with the 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: notion that the game has to be quicker to be 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: responsive to the audience that. 115 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: We're serving in today's world. 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: But these leagues are becoming highlight leagues. Adam Silver, the 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: NBA commissioner, said, we're kind of a highlight league. How 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: do you guard against that of just being a highlight 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: and not going the experience of going to a game 120 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: or watching a game. 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: I think we have a huge advantage in that effort, 122 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: and it is an effort for all sports. I mean, 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: you know how younger people consume things. We don't need 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: to revisit that. But I think that our in ballpark 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: experience largely due to the work of the individual teams 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: and what they do in the stadiums, the entertainment they provide, 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: the food and beverage options, what they do in between 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: innings is so good that it does creating. 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: People the desire to see the whole game, the. 130 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: Whole product, and the fact that we play every day 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: also important in that regard. So we have some assets 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: there and it's something that we're really focused on. 133 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: When all the owners get together, how often does the 134 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: topic of a salary cap come up? 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. It really is episodic. 136 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's more frequent when you get closer to 137 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: a labor year like we are now. I think it's 138 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: natural for people to discuss, you know, options that are available. 139 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: I think what's really important for me to say is, 140 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, we haven't decided what exactly our approach is 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: going to be. We have a whole other season to 142 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: get through, and you know, while obviously there's conversation. You know, 143 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: it remains to be seeing what substance position the owners. 144 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: Are going to take. 145 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: Where do you stand on it? 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: I think that it has been my view for a 147 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 4: really long time that you sell competition to your fans 148 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: and that we need to always be looking for things 149 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: that enhance the perception of the competition. And I think 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: one way to do that is reduce and regulate the 151 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: disparity and payrolls a you get. 152 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I also want to make sure that you know the 153 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: minimum spend because some of these owners they may not 154 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: be spending as much as they need to. 155 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: How do I think that's I think that's one thing. 156 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's one thing that is widely misunderstood. 157 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: You know what, people the name of the mechanism that 158 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: people use in the other three sports is a salary cap. 159 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: But a necessary element of that system is a minimum 160 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: as well as a cap, and I agree with you 161 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: that the minimum in some ways may be more important 162 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: than the cap. 163 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: The cal Rawley story is a fun story, but how 164 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: does baseball's like your marketing arm? How do you approach 165 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: a story like that to let people know he's playing 166 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: in Seattle, He's hit sixty home runs, great nickname there. 167 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: How are you guys doing enough to promote some of 168 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: these other stories? 169 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think that it's really important with a 170 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: story like Cal for Major League Baseball in addition to 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: the club, what the club is doing locally to promote 172 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: that player build his brand. You know, we have a 173 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: massive social media program now that is all player directed. 174 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: Almost everything we do on social is player You're going 175 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: to see a set of postseason advertisements that will start 176 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: airing Cal is prominently featured in that. You know, honestly 177 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: selecting him for the home run Derby is another example. 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: You know, you want to play like that in a 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: home run derby where he's going to get a national audience. 180 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: I think going forward, one of the things that we 181 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: are really focused on is more presence on national platforms 182 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: for regular season games, so that people across the country 183 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: see more of players like Cal. 184 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: How important is gambling to Major League Baseball? 185 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's something that is really misunderstood. 186 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: We have a you know, nice little business where we 187 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: sell data and we sell some sponsorships, but the overall 188 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: revenue impact of gambling for us is really not significant. Actually, 189 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: the biggest expenditure of time on the topic is working 190 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: with our partners, the sports books, to make sure that 191 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: gambling doesn't present an integrity an integrity issue for us 192 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: over the long home. 193 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to have a man cave at home? 194 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 4: You know, I do have a room that my wife 195 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: has is a bedroom that she has reluctantly seated to me. 196 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: There is a lot of you know, a lot of 197 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: baseball stuff, a lot of golf stuff, and some exercise equipment. 198 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: So I guess that qualifies. 199 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: You know, you can't quite have a cave in an 200 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: apartment in New York, you know, if there's something you know, 201 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: it's sort of an oxy moron, right, So. 202 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: You're not the commissioner in your own house. 203 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's certainly true. That's certainly true. 204 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Great. 205 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: To talk to you, Tant Really, you know, I know, 206 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: I hope because we'll be playing the games out you'll 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: be paying attention to what's going to be a great 208 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: postseason for us. 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: It's been a really exciting week this week trying to. 210 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: Figure out who exactly is going to be there, and 211 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: we're looking forward to some great series next week. 212 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, commissioner. 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How would you 250 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: describe your relationship with Bryson to Shambo? 251 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 7: Probably somewhat complicated now because that's just the nature of 252 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 7: what I do, in the nature of what he does. 253 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 7: But I've enjoyed the time when I've been around Bryson 254 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 7: to Shambo, I've spent a little bit of time around 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 7: him two or three times. We've played in golf tournament's 256 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 7: Going Away Back, and I've set with him in a 257 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 7: locker room once and talked golf swing for about a 258 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 7: couple of hours during a swing break. I like Bryson, 259 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 7: I enjoy his game. I say a lot of nice 260 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 7: things about him. But the way the world works is 261 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 7: they pick up on one negative thing you say about him, 262 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: and it becomes a headline and it becomes memes and 263 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 7: it gets back to him, and he probably thinks that 264 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 7: I'm highly critical of him when I've mostly been complimentary 265 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 7: of him. 266 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, it did stand out earlier in the week when 267 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: you were talking about him talking about doing videos for 268 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: his YouTube channel and he should be talking about the 269 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Ryder Cup teams. Am I summarizing that fairly? 270 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 271 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, I can't remember exactly what he was 272 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 7: asked about, but he started talking about his YouTube channel, which, look, 273 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: I get it's been a nice movement and he's enjoying 274 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 7: doing that, but at the time it just struck my 275 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 7: ear just a little bit odd. And then I made 276 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 7: the comment where I said, I think he's probably a 277 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 7: captain's nightmare, And maybe that was the exact phrase I 278 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 7: should have used. Maybe that was a little strong. Maybe 279 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 7: what I should have said was he probably is problematic 280 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 7: to pair with, or maybe he keeps a captain up 281 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 7: late at night. Maybe nightmare was a little bit strong, Dan. 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 7: I don't know if you ever said anything on the 283 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 7: air where you're like, you know, I'd like to grab 284 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: that work out. 285 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: I could take it back, you know. Yeah. 286 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: So yeah, I caught a fair bit of scorn for that. 287 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, that probably wasn't my best phrase. 288 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 7: But the point was is that he is problematic for 289 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: a captain to pair with. Paul McGinley, who was a 290 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 7: captain for Ryder Cup in twenty fourteen, said as much 291 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 7: last night. He's like, he is one of those players. 292 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 7: If you just matching players for skill, you would pair 293 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 7: like the best possible team the US could put out 294 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 7: tomorrow would be Scotty and Bryson to Shamba. But they 295 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 7: will neither they together. That not skill wise for this 296 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 7: golf course. That's the best possible team that the USA 297 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 7: could put out. They will not be going out tomorrow 298 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 7: because there's compatibility. And I'm not saying that Scotty has 299 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 7: got a problem with Bryson or Bryce's got a problem 300 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 7: with Scotty. I'm just saying that, you know, not everybody 301 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 7: meshes up perfectly. You've got to consider things like personality 302 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: and how amenable are they to changeing equipment. Bryson has 303 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 7: notoriously fickle about his golf equipment. We don't know if 304 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 7: he's happy to or reluctant to switch golf balls to 305 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 7: play a golf ball of his partner, et cetera, et cetera. 306 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 7: So these are the kind of things, you know. There's 307 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 7: the FOURTHMS is a tough thing to work in. Now, 308 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 7: having settled that, I'd be equally surprised if Bryson didn't 309 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 7: play four or five matches, because he is clearly one 310 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 7: of the top talents on this team. 311 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Who's the alpha dog on each team? 312 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 7: The alpha is Scottie Scheffler. The alpha is ry McElroy 313 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 7: on the European team. I wouldn't say Bryson's in beta 314 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 7: too much to be an alpha, you know. 315 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: There you go, you're putting out in you know memes again. 316 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 7: No, well, look he's he's always in beta. You know, 317 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 7: I'm testing this, I'm testing that, et cetera, et cetera. 318 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: And I do love that bit about him. Yeah, but 319 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: you're talking about I'm talking alpha dog where there's emotion. 320 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: This is about emotion, and Scheffler doesn't have that kind 321 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: of a moment like Terrellhatton has emotion. 322 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about fire, yes, I'm talking about the 323 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 7: ability to inspire a team with their play. And I 324 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 7: think Scotty Scheffler is very underrated when it comes to 325 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: his intensity. I think he burns like the sun on 326 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 7: the inside. I really do, and we've seen it flare 327 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 7: up from time to time. But you don't win as 328 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 7: often as he does, and you don't show an inability 329 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 7: to be in any way placated by money without the 330 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 7: fire inside. That's what Tiger had that was so extraordinary. 331 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: You could not placate him with money. It didn't matter 332 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 7: how much he made. He still wanted to beat you 333 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 7: about twelve fifteen shots the very next week. And I 334 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 7: think Scotty definitely has that, and I think Rory definitely 335 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 7: has that. It's not to say that John Robb doesn't 336 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 7: also look John Rahm is an alpha as well. I mean, 337 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 7: this is a team of type A personalities all the 338 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 7: way down the board, both sides. But when you're looking 339 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 7: at the top of the top, to me, it's Rory 340 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 7: and it's Gotti. 341 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: We talk about how the European team camaraderie galvanize. They understand, 342 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: you know, friendship, travel together, play together, is it's still 343 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: that because you know, you do have the live tour 344 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: involved in this, and maybe it's not as close knit 345 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: as it has been in the past, which was a 346 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: big benefit for them. 347 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a little misleading to assume that 348 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 7: the European teams have always just been, you know, chummy. 349 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 7: There's always been a little bit of friction within the 350 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 7: European team room, and I think they've used that friction 351 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 7: to their advantage. But there's also been tremendous buy in. 352 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 7: You know, you've got players over there that just say, 353 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 7: you know, I'll play wherever you want me to play, 354 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 7: And I don't know that you get that kind of 355 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 7: buy in from the US side, leaning what I can 356 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 7: glean from the interviews I've heard and the stories I've heard, 357 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 7: and you get tremendous buy in on the European side. 358 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 7: And one of the things I say, and I think 359 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 7: that underscorees just how much more buying you get on 360 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 7: the European side than you get on the US side, 361 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 7: is that Sergio Garcia had to pay a couple of 362 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 7: million dollars in fines just to even be eligible for 363 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 7: this team, and he willfully paid a couple million dollars 364 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 7: just to be eligible. Now he's not on the team, 365 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 7: but the United States team has demanded to be paid 366 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 7: to play. Now, look, I mean, we can debate whether 367 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 7: or not that's the right thing to do, but you 368 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 7: have one side where players would pay to be on 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 7: the team and the other side where players want to 370 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 7: get paid just to be a part of the team. 371 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Talking to Branda Shamblie Golf Channel on their lead studio 372 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: analysts live from the Ryder Cup all this weekend, Yeah, 373 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: you bring up the money part of it. How's this 374 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: story get out? Because the first thing I thought is 375 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: is somebody from the European team leaking this out to 376 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: make the American team look bad. 377 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 7: Well, you know, there's a lot of people involved in 378 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 7: this decision. I mean, the whole PGA of America would 379 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 7: have had to talk about this, So that's an innumerable 380 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 7: number of people. And then you're talking about players and 381 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 7: wives and caddies and everybody on the European side because 382 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 7: they're invested in this as well. And you know, this 383 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 7: is a profitable property, almost exclusively because Europe has risen 384 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 7: up and more times than not beaten the American side. 385 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 7: When the American side has been the favorite has that's 386 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: the larger part of the reason why this event is 387 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 7: so compelling. And so Europe doesn't want any money. They've 388 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 7: said as much. In the United States since nineteen ninety 389 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 7: nine has been talking about and wanting to get paid. 390 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 7: And it came to a head obviously in Rome when 391 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 7: allegedly Patrick Cantley wouldn't wear the hat because he wasn't 392 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 7: getting paid, which was reported by a great many people. 393 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 7: And then I think, written by Michael Bamberger, they get paid. 394 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 7: I don't think so. I don't think it's asking too much. Well, 395 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 7: first of all, they are getting paid. So the PGA 396 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 7: Tour gets about thirty million dollars a year that every 397 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 7: year they played the Ryder Cup, about thirty million dollars 398 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 7: a year that they take and put into the pension 399 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 7: funt of the PGA Tour players, which grows tax free 400 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 7: for decade for decade for decade for decades. So when 401 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 7: you talk about getting paid, they're getting paid large sums 402 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 7: of money. It's just deferred until probably when they they'll 403 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 7: never need it, but you know later on in their life. 404 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 7: And most every single player, well now every player on 405 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: the team would have bonuses probably seven figure bonuses in 406 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: their contracts should they make the Ryder Cup team. So 407 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 7: they are getting paid, but directly paid from the PGA 408 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 7: of America. I think it's not asking too much of 409 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 7: these guys to one week a year to do something 410 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 7: for the honor of playing for their country. People would argue, well, 411 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 7: the PGA of America makes money. The PGA of America 412 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 7: has thirty thousand plus members, in numerable initiatives that they're 413 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 7: all trying to fund. 414 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: All of these. 415 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 7: Entities have run these big events, Augusta National, the USGA. 416 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 7: They all make money from the events. They make a profit, 417 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 7: but then they take that money and do a lot 418 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 7: of great things with it. It's like the PGA of 419 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 7: America is not buying ferraris and private jets for their executives. 420 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 7: They're taking the money and investing in junior programs. Every 421 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 7: single player on this US team was touched by a 422 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 7: PGA you know, a PGA professional at some point showed 423 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 7: them how to put their hands on the club and 424 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: gave them some reason to pursue this game. 425 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: More app to have another act, Tiger or Phil. 426 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 7: Good question, I would say, another act. You mean from 427 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 7: a competitive standpoint on a big stage, I would probably say, Phil, 428 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 7: you know, unfortunately Tiger busting his achilles again. I you know, 429 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 7: I don't know how you come back from that at 430 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 7: fifty years of age, unless unless Tiger decides to write 431 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 7: a golf cart on the Champs Tour. And I don't 432 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 7: know how that would play out in the US Senior Open, 433 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 7: because Tiger has won three US Juniors, three US Amateurs, 434 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 7: and three US Opens. If he were to go play, 435 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 7: and I guarantee you it's a goal of his to 436 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 7: go play the US Senior Open and win it, but 437 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 7: I don't know that he could write a cart in 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 7: the US Senior Open, which you can on the Champs Tour. 439 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 7: And I don't know even if they would let him 440 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 7: write a card, if he would do it, because he 441 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 7: has such a strong sense of fairness about him. 442 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: What about Phil? 443 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 7: Look, Phil could pop up at the Masters. You know 444 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 7: Jack Nicholas finished fifth there when he was fifty eight 445 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 7: years of age. Phil still bombs it and Phil still energetic, 446 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: still youthful in his feverish pursuit of this game of golf. 447 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 7: So yeah, and he won a major at Dangian Are 448 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 7: fifty two years of age, So it wouldn't surprise me. 449 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 7: I mean, Phil still acts like a kid again with 450 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 7: a golf club in his hand. 451 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: We always talk about decorum in a golf course and 452 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: being quiet and you know, being respectful, but that's out 453 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: the window this weekend. Can can a crowd gallery go 454 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: too far at the Ryder Cup? 455 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 7: They could absolutely go too far if they start screaming 456 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 7: or yelling in guys backswings, you know, let them play. 457 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 7: I think you know there'll be some people kicked out 458 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 7: this week for sure. You know, if they start screaming 459 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 7: and players backswings, if they get profane, you know and personal, 460 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 7: you know the whole you know, there'll be some good 461 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 7: jeery out there. And I know the European side has 462 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 7: prepared for this, going back to January when they were 463 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 7: playing in a competition where it was Great Britain and 464 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 7: Ireland against Continental Europe. These they do, these, it's sort 465 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 7: of previews for Ryder Cups. I think Luke Donald had 466 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 7: a blaring system of you know, USA, USA, USA, and 467 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 7: he hired an American comedian to heckle them while they 468 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 7: were hitting shots. So they've prepared for for a hostile environment. 469 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 7: I'm just not sure anybody could properly prepare for as 470 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 7: hostile environment as I think they're going to get this week. 471 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: If you were watching the opening ceremonies yesterday, the New 472 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 7: York Governor, I mean, my goodness, I mean the boos 473 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: were a fevered pitch. Got me looking for the decimal 474 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 7: level record for a stadium, which by the way is 475 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 7: Arrowhead Stadium. It may reach that level this week. 476 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: It's just more about the mental aspect of the physical aspect. 477 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 7: I think that's a great thing about the Ryder Cup 478 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 7: is it really does involve everything group dynamics at the 479 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 7: highest level. How can you get these guys to come 480 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 7: together as a team and buy into the decisions a 481 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 7: captain which you know and I think more than a 482 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 7: few instances are going to go against the predictions of 483 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 7: the players. And then, of course there is the mental 484 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 7: aspect of it, because it's monoamano out there, and there'll 485 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: be some gamesmanship there already has been some gamesmanship. Luke Donald, 486 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 7: I think had a little gamesmanship yesterday in his opening 487 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 7: remarks the European team out on the range. I don't 488 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 7: know if it was yesterday or today, but instead of 489 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 7: going to one end where the US side could uniformly 490 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 7: practice at another end. The European team went right in 491 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 7: the middle, so the US team had to split up 492 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 7: and go to either side of them. 493 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 8: I mean, that is absolutely gamesmanship by the European team, 494 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 8: and so there will be little bitty gamesmanship moments out there, 495 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 8: so it certainly becomes. 496 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: A mental test. Good to talk to you. Thank you. 497 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 7: By the way, rich lernerd RIGHTTMI the cameo right here, 498 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 7: we're in the trailer here, so say I read, I read, 499 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: all right, take care yeah. 500 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 501 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 502 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 503 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: listen live. 504 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: Jeff Passing, ESPN senior Baseball insider joining us on the program. 505 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: How are you? 506 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 9: It was a great line man, Thank you for that. 507 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: That genuinely made me laugh. 508 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 9: Do we have a camera? Can we see the astros 509 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 9: like you know? 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: Can we Mario? Can you show Fritzy with his astros gear? 511 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: Let me see? Yeah? 512 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 9: Right, and it's the slow pan of shame. Oh boy, 513 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 9: I will say something. It takes some kahonas to go 514 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 9: and wear that the way that they're playing right now. 515 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 9: They saw right now, like they've lost five in a row. 516 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 9: They have blown it. They're losing games to the A's there, 517 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 9: they're just out of the playoffs. Like the Astros are 518 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 9: so bad right now that Detroit is still in a 519 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 9: playoff spot. And Detroit has had arguably the greatest collapse 520 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 9: in September history in baseball. 521 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: How did that happen? Now? I know, you have to 522 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: have a team that has a comeback, and the Guardians 523 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: have played well, they pitched really incredible. But what happened 524 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: with the Tigers. 525 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 9: The pitching has just been abominable. And you know, it 526 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 9: was interesting because earlier this year, Dan they like they 527 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 9: looked like maybe the best team in baseball, and they 528 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 9: had continued what they'd done to everyone else last September. 529 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 9: That's happening to them right now. Remember they were fifty 530 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 9: five and sixty three at one point. They traded Jack 531 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 9: Flaherty last year and they wound up making a pretty 532 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 9: spirited playoff run to the Division Series where they pushed 533 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 9: Cleveland's game five before Cleveland won that series and faced 534 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 9: the Yankees in the ALCS. But what the Tigers have 535 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 9: done to this point, it's it's embarrassing and nobody there 536 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 9: frankly has any answers for it. Aj Hinch is saying, 537 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 9: you know, we're trying, We're we're doing our best, but 538 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 9: they just they look lifeless out there. And when you 539 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 9: look at the talent on this Cleveland Guardian team, you say, 540 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 9: how they have two hitters in Jose Ramirez and Kyle 541 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 9: Manzardo who have ops pluses over one hundred, which means 542 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 9: they have two hitters who are better than the league 543 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 9: average two and they're going to win. It looks like 544 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 9: at this point the American League Central Division. And you 545 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 9: look at their pitching staff, and let's not forget they 546 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 9: lost their all world's closer and a rotation piece and 547 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 9: Emmanuel Class and Luis Ortiz to allegations of being involved 548 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 9: in gambling, and so the Guardians looked like. 549 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: They were cooked. 550 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 9: They were talking about trading Stephen Kwan at the deadline, 551 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 9: and here they are every year. Steven Vote has done 552 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 9: an incredible job managing this team, and they just never 553 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 9: lost faith. And you got to believe in teams that 554 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 9: can push on with what they've been through. 555 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: I said a couple of weeks ago, if cal Rawly 556 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: hit sixty and they won the division that he was 557 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: going to win the MVP. Being a catcher and a 558 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: better than average catcher. You win that division and you're 559 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: hitting sixty home runs? Well, check, check check? Is he 560 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: going to win the mvpck? 561 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 9: I don't know, because the. 562 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: Cider don't have you taken a straw vote here. 563 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 9: I don't ask other reporters. It's like asking somebody who 564 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 9: you've voted for. They're just things that you'd like, you 565 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 9: don't do in polite society. 566 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: Damn. 567 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 9: And let's put it this way. I'm like, I'm glad 568 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 9: that I'm not voting for MVP this year because it's 569 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 9: there's such great cases to be made for both cal 570 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 9: Rally and for Aaron Judge. And let me turn this 571 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 9: on you, since you are in the clear pro Rally camp. 572 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 9: Aaron Judge is ops right now is one hundred and 573 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 9: seventy five points figher than cal Rally's. Are you telling 574 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 9: me that because cal Rally has a home run total 575 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 9: that ends in a round number, and that because cal 576 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 9: Raley happens to play with really good guys surrounding him 577 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 9: and a team that went out and got Youah Naylor 578 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 9: and Gino Suarez at the deadline that helped push them 579 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 9: toward that division title. Are you telling me all that 580 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 9: makes up, along with the defensive elements for that one 581 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 9: hundred and seventy five point gap, which is real, which 582 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 9: is significant, and which is enormous. 583 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, fair enough. 584 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 9: I think it's great. Honestly, I think both of them. 585 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: He's nerving past Mickey Mantle as a switch hit, or 586 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: he's hitting sixty home runs and he's doing it at 587 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 2: the catcher position. That never happens. I mean no, it never, 588 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: It never has and it won't happen again. I mean, 589 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: he'll hit thirty eight next year. 590 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 9: But so do you think do you think you're suffering 591 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 9: from Aaron Judges? 592 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, Well but it happens, though, Jeff. It 593 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: happened with Michael Jordan. I voted for him every year, 594 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: even when Barkley and Karl Malone won, because I said, 595 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: there's no more valuable player to the league than Michael Jordan. 596 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't care what your numbers are, I don't care 597 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: what your team did. That guy is the most valuable. 598 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge and show heyo Tani I said, I thought 599 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber deserved a lot more respect. Than he's getting 600 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: because he has He's going to be a distant second 601 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: to show Heyo Tani and I think that given what 602 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: the phi, Philly's got the best odds to win the 603 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: World Series, Schwarber's been unbelievable. But yes, Otani has had advantage. 604 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 9: His second home run last night was spectacular, four hundred 605 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 9: and sixty eight feet just into the night in Philadelphia. 606 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 9: He's absolutely carried the Phillies to this point. And yeah, listen, 607 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 9: I'm with you, but I think there's a little inconsistency 608 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 9: going on here. If you're voting for Michael Jordan every 609 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 9: year when Michael Jordan was putting up the best numbers, 610 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 9: have you softened as you have grown wise and gone 611 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 9: more for the narrative vote because the objective vote is 612 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 9: for Aaron Judge. The narrative vote is unquestionably for cal Rally. 613 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Aaron Judge was not my Jordan in the postseason. 614 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: I was voting on the totality of what that season 615 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: was going to be and Aaron Judge is not a 616 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: great postseason performing. 617 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't get to vote like all of our 618 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 9: votes are due before the postseason begins. 619 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying that what, you know, what my 620 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: formula was was fair, but I think it kind of 621 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: bore out that, Hey, he did win six championships in 622 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: those years, even when he wasn't the MVP. And Aaron Judge, 623 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: you know, has done incredible, you know, hitting fifty home runs, 624 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: He's been incredible. To him, he really, yeah, he really 625 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: has been incredible. I just think you know this, as 626 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: a writer, we love a new story. What else are 627 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: you going to say about Aaron Judge and only nearly 628 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: went to the Giants? Boy, he was a great high 629 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: school tight end? 630 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 9: Uh? What how about? Okay? How about this? Aaron Judges 631 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 9: in the midst of one of the great stretches in 632 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 9: baseball history for hitters, putting him up there with Barry 633 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 9: Bond's babe Ruth and I'm not sure who else. Like, 634 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 9: it's one of those types of stretches where when you 635 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 9: look at what Aaron Judge has done over the last 636 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 9: four seasons in particular, but really for the entirety of 637 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 9: his career, he has made himself within ten years and 638 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 9: Inner Circle first ballot, no doubt Hall of Famer. Who's 639 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 9: going to go down among the greatest players in the 640 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 9: history of the greatest franchise in baseball, and this year 641 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 9: in particular, what he's doing. He's leading the league in batting, 642 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 9: hitting three thirty, around three thirty, when nobody hits for 643 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 9: average anymore. In an era where home runs are not 644 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 9: difficult to come by necessarily but certainly not easy, he's 645 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 9: going out and hitting them with regularity. He gets on 646 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 9: base more than anyone, He slugs better than anyone. He 647 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 9: just puts up numbers that are so much different than 648 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 9: everybody else is in the sport. He is the outlier 649 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 9: Dan and I. 650 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: Like my problem with that. I think Aaron Judge is great. 651 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 2: He's not a great postseason performer. Yeah, okay, but we 652 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: look at all of the grades of all time, and 653 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: what do we focus on postseason? That's how you become 654 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: greats of all time. Aaron Judge is a wonderful regular 655 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: season player. I have no no qualms with you. 656 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 9: Do you think do you think Dan Marino was great? 657 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 9: Do you think Charles Barkley was great? 658 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we're great regular season players. Yeah. 659 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 660 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 9: I don't. I don't personally differentiate those two, I feel like, 661 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 9: but we. 662 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: Do that with quarterbacks all the time. Eli's going to 663 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Why because he won two Super Bowls? 664 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: Not because of what he did during the regular season. 665 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: So we pick you know, why don't we do that 666 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: in other sports? Barry Bonds didn't win anything, right, Yeah, 667 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: we crushed Clayton Kershaw because he can't do anything in 668 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 2: the postseason. He's one of the greatest regular season pitchers 669 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: of all time. Like we do hold other people accountable 670 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: in other sports, why can't we do that, you know 671 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: side for these cornerbacks, one you can, It. 672 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 9: Is within your right and it makes for great arguments. 673 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 9: I just you know, I look at it like I 674 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 9: think the regular season matters, and I just don't want 675 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 9: that to get swept away amid all the discussion about 676 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 9: what the postseason is. 677 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: Okay Otani is always going to have like a twenty 678 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 2: yard head start and a forty yard dash, right totally. 679 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: I mean every season he starts at the twenty yard 680 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 2: line and everybody starts, you know, at the starting line. 681 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: And he didn't really pitch that much. It's just now 682 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: he did, you know, hit home runs, but he didn't 683 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: steal bases like he did his average you know, considerably. 684 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: But he's going to run away with another MVP. 685 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, because he's putting up almost identical numbers and in 686 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 9: some case better numbers than Kyle Schwarburn. Oh, by the way, 687 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 9: he threw fifty innings of sub three e are on 688 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 9: top of that. Like, it's just, it's it's tough. It's 689 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 9: tough for me to look at Otani and not vote 690 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 9: for him every year he stays healthy just because he's 691 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 9: two players in one. 692 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: Dude, I know, I know, like you. 693 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 9: Just, I can't get past that he is the freak 694 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 9: of all freaks, and honoring him with the MVP Award, 695 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 9: I'm not sure that even does does him the service 696 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 9: that he's out. 697 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 2: I felt like a little tense there. I'm sorry, I 698 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: get a little animated here. 699 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 9: No wrong, I listen. I appreciate. I appreciate arguing with 700 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 9: people who are wrong. 701 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: It's great. I know me too. Can we get rid 702 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: of this stupid term robo ump because it's not a 703 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: robo ump? Okay, nope, it is not a robo ump. 704 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 2: But people, I think they're going to be robots out there, 705 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: Jeff and I tell you all, but. 706 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 9: Kim, Yeah, but I love that. I would love to see, 707 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 9: like just, I would love to see what a robot 708 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 9: umpire's strike call. 709 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: Would look like like. 710 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 9: No, but robots are good enough these days where I 711 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 9: feel like the guy would be like pretty smooth and 712 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 9: calling a strike. And I've always wondered, like, if I 713 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 9: were an umpire, what would my strike three call be? 714 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 9: I feel like we could get a robot umpire doing 715 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 9: a backflip into the splits and then just like ringing 716 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 9: the guy up right there. But No, the Automated ball 717 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 9: Strike System it's twelve cameras that are around the ballpark 718 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 9: that can track a pitch with margin a bear of 719 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 9: one sixth of an inch. And the idea is to 720 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 9: ensure that there are no really bad calls that are 721 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 9: made in high leverage, important situations. And beyond that, I 722 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 9: think it's also an opportunity, or it's going to become 723 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 9: an opportunity to reward people who understand the strike zone. 724 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 9: Like if you're a catcher or a hitter who has 725 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 9: a great grasp of the strike zone, this is a 726 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 9: rule that's going to advantage you and it's going to 727 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 9: make you become a more valuable player. 728 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: You know what's great about the postseason Everything we don't 729 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: start with somebody on second base in the tenth Listen. 730 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 9: I love I love the Pitchcock. I think ABS is 731 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 9: going to be really great. I am totally with you 732 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 9: on the automatic Runner, and I think it's a I 733 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 9: get the intention behind it, I just don't like it. 734 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 9: Give me seventeen any games all day. I'll take them, 735 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 9: especially in the playoffs. 736 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. We'll chop it up again 737 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: in the postseason. Thank you can't wait, buddy. Thanks for 738 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: having Jeff Patson. He's always wrong.