WEBVTT - Unghosted with Kaitlyn Bristowe (part 2) 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.880 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:10.159 radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I'm 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:14.080 Chris Harrison. We're picking back up with my conversation with 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.720 Caitlin Bristow. Caitlin did an interview a week ago where 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.919 she shared her feelings about the demise of our relationship 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.759 and how our friendship had kind of gone down the toilet, 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:32.800 so to speak. We dove into that and have realized 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.959 that while our relationship did change, we still very much 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.000 care for each other. We are very much friends, and 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.239 that side of our lives is very good. And I'm 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.040 glad we had a chance to talk about all that, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.199 and I'm glad you got to hear it and and 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.400 hash it out with us and see how we communicate, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:58.200 and see how friends should communicate, spouses should communicate, and 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.160 try not to things so personal that it will make 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.039 a situation toxic that you can't recover from. And so 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.560 I'm glad everybody got to share in that very personal, 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.320 intimate conversation that Caitlin had, and I appreciate her sharing 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.720 that with all of you as well. But there was 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.920 so much more to talk about, and so I want 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.800 to get back to my conversation with Caitlin, and that 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.640 takes us into you hosting the show. And I'm not 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.200 going to call you a mentor because that's bullshit. You 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.600 two were hosting the show. What was that like for you? 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.800 So bizarre? It was? It was a lot of things. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.880 I mean it was. It really did feel. First of all, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.400 when I went into it blind. I got there and 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.560 started reading off of prompter and I was like, oh, okay, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.920 so we are definitely hosting. Like that's when I knew 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.480 it was actually when it was happening, and I had 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.640 so many different feelings. One, I respect the hell out 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.040 of you for doing that for that many years, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.360 how good and the professional you are. It is really challenging. UM. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.880 And when people say Chris Harrison has the best job 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.360 in the whole world, yes, but they're underestimating how much 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.360 work you put into that and all of the you know, 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.400 hours and time away and hard work and up late 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.240 nights like you really do a lot UM. So I 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.080 was having a lot of um respect for you in 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:26.639 those moments. And also I loved it because I love hosting. UM. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.840 That's why I started a podcast. I love being a 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.160 host of something. I love having people over, love hosting 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.800 dinner parties. I just love hosting, and that to me 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.760 was like the ultimate hosting role. Um. But then I 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.200 also felt guilty. There's times I was feeling guilty, like 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.600 you know, imposter syndrome, and why do I deserve to 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.680 have this or be here? What? And then on another level, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.200 I'm feeling, well, why can't I do this on my own? 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.400 Why do they need two of us? Why do they 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.480 not just trust me by myself? Or what? Like so 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:04.120 many emotions, the full spectrum like emotions. Yeah, I the 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.800 only thing that really upset me when I heard that 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.760 you and Tatia were hosting was that it was you 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:15.919 and Tatia and that they named two of you, because 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.440 that was you were doomed to fail. You were set 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.880 up to fail. That was never going to succeed that show. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.920 I mean again, and I know it intimately more than 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.679 anybody is there's not room for two people. There's not 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.760 room for two mentors. There's there's not room for two emotions, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.640 and that that mental space that you're taking over, and 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:41.640 so that was just never going to work. And that 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.160 to me, if I had been involved with you and Tasha, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.160 that's That's what I would have expressed is I don't 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.520 see how this is going to work. And again I 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.600 wasn't watching the show. And that's not because I was 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.200 mad at you, guys. I just I removed myself and 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.280 I wasn't watching the show. It's like, why am I 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.360 gonna go stare at you know, an old girlfriend, UM 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.560 make love to somebody else. So I just removed myself 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.600 from that and didn't watch. But I kept in touch 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.800 with a lot of people that were in production, and 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.560 I just felt for you guys because I knew how 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.000 awkward and tough that situation was going to be. Yeah, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.720 it was too bad because I mean I love Taitia 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.240 and it was thank god we got along because that 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.640 would have been even worse if we didn't. Um, But 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.480 we did and we had a great time, and it 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.320 just it did. It did feel like, um, it took 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.440 away the level of profession to like it didn't feel 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.600 professional to have to and then it kind of made 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.599 us feel silly and goofy with each other where we 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.320 didn't take it as serious as one person would have. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.320 And like you said, there's really there really isn't enough 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.520 room for two people to be in that position um 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.880 and that I don't know why. I was shocked when 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.479 they were like, and we're not having you back for 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.200 next season. I was like what They're like, you probably 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.520 saw this coming, and like I did it. I did not. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.640 I actually did not. But it's because you know, Tasha 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.720 had COVID at the end, and so I had to 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.280 do it by myself. And I took it so seriously 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.440 because I was like, this is a big job, like, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.760 as you know, the biggest news to fill. And I 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.400 was like having that imposter syndrome. But I was like, Okay, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.159 maybe this is proof that one of us can do it, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.799 we can do it on our own, that we don't 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.560 need to rely on the other person. Um. But yeah, 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.120 So when they were like, no, it's not happening, I 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.239 was like, cuckoo coole. I actually did not see that coming. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.400 I now looking back, and of course that would never 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.680 work to have two hosts for the rest of you know, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.160 what are they going to do well? And to have 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.560 two women hosting the bachelorettes. So now you really have 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.960 three women. Yeah, that's that's a that's a lot in 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.920 that space. And I just I was like, I don't 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.760 know how how you're set up to succeed there. Yeah, no, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.040 we definitely were not set up to succeed. And I 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.640 was worried because I've carved something out and created something 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:06.440 over twenty years. You were thrown into something pretty tumultuous 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:13.000 and emotional in a heartbeat. And what I was afraid 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:19.159 was being guided in a direction that I wish, you know. Again, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.120 my producer side of me was like, man, I wish 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.160 I could really dive in and save this. Yeah, I 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:30.960 bet do you miss it? Um? I miss hosting television. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.279 Just I'm like you. I love I love my career 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.440 I've had. I love hosting, I love producing. Um, you know, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.440 whether it was The Bachelor, Miss America, who wants to 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.840 be a Millionaire? I mean, I've done a ton of 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.800 work over twenty or thirty years, and so I love 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:53.279 that I miss people on the show. I missed the people, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:54.560 you know, some of the people that you got to 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.560 work with, as you know, the most talented crew in 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.840 the world, and I love and adore them. They are 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.160 so amazing at what they do and it was an 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.760 honor to kind of be their face and their their 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:10.760 voice for so many years. Um. But the overall show, no, no, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.200 I don't. I don't honestly, Yeah, that ship is sailed 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.320 and it was wonderful and I and I don't say 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:22.040 that with any um bitterness. I just it was a 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.040 you know, there's a time and a space for all relationships, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.720 and and that got me from here to there, and 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.920 it was a wonderful relationship that changed my life and 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.480 I will forever be grateful for that. Um but it's 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.720 it's there's a time to move on and and it's time. Yeah, 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.200 I feel like you were at a place like when 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.400 we had done my podcast years ago, I had asked 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.240 you when you would retire, and it was getting to 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.840 be around that time. So I'm like, I wondered if 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.840 you know, because obviously you would have chose differently on 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.720 how to leave, but I wondered if you were ready. Yeah. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.760 You almost got me drunk enough to admit it on 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.200 that podcast that I was ready to go, and I was. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.680 You know, Lauren has even said to me now that 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.440 we have become so much more intiment and close and 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.360 and our feelings, She's like, wow, now that I see 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:16.600 you now, I can see just how mixed you were 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.200 with your emotions on on leaving this show and when 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.720 that was going to happen. Um, there is this side 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.760 of me that, hey, be grateful, you have an amazing job, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.000 and I did, and it was spectacular to have one 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.200 of the best jobs in all of broadcasting and a 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.760 franchise that changed television and going to go down in 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.000 the history books. I mean, when you what are you 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.640 gonna do? You know, it's not like people ask Tom Brady, Hey, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.400 you're tired of playing football, when are you gonna go 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.400 try something else? You're tired of winning Super Bowls? Um. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.000 But but I did get to that point where I'm 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.040 not getting as much out of this relationship and therefore 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.040 not I'm not I'm not giving it as much as 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.920 I should, and it was time. It was definitely time. Well, 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.080 I will say I've never received so many comments in 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.280 my life as p Pill being like, the show is 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:06.000 not the same without Coreon literally, but it's true, it 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.440 really isn't the same without you. Well, I appreciate that, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.959 and I and I saw those comments and part of me, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.520 you know, honestly, part of me loved it, but no 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.960 part of me, part of me felt bad because again 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.160 I thought, they just they're they're not in a situation 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.480 where they can succeed, and I I do love you too. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.520 I love Tasha, and I love you and I want 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.280 what's best for you. And so even in that weird 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.240 moment that was so awkward, I still wanted you guys 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.840 to succeed and be seen as successful and I just 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.360 knew that wasn't possible, and I was that bummed me 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.320 out because then, you know, on top of that, I 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.160 felt a little bit responsible for it because of this 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.640 whole situation, and I'm like, well, that sucks that you 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.560 guys have this opportunity to have this break, but you 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.280 really don't because because it's set up in this way. Yeah, 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.800 I mean there is no training involved. There was no 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.600 It was kind of just like go out there and 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.080 be yourselves. And when you get to giggly girls together 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.960 and trying to host a show with so much emotion, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.920 as you know, and then to have that much estrogen flowing, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.360 and you know, it was it was a roller coaster. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.520 And then you have the feelings of like ETSD where 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.440 I'm back in the situation that I have like I'm 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.600 having too much empathy almost for the for the lead, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.120 because I'm like, oh gosh, I've been here. And then 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.120 you it's it's kind of nice to be able to 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.840 separate yourself from it, as like you know, a role 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.720 where this is what you're meant to do, where I 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.839 wanted to like save them, and that can't work. As 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.199 you alluded to, it's it's not uh an easy gig. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.439 It is. The hours are extreme, the travel is extreme. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.640 You are sleep deprived, you are malnourished, you are beat up, 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.960 and you're either freezing or you're hot. And so again, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.640 it's a job. And so I'm not saying what was me, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.480 but it's like there's a lot that goes into it 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.600 for yourself and you have to overcome that because all 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.679 you can do is emotionally be there for that person 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.280 you're trying to serve. You know, when I would I 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.000 would walk into a situation with you and you know 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.840 it's four or five in the morning, and I know 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.840 you're tired and emotional. Well, I can't be right. I 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.240 need to be there for you, and I need to 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.880 be happy, and I need to be peppy or I 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.840 need to be on whatever level you are. And so 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.400 that's hard as a host because you're always emotionally entering 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.760 a situation where it's not about you I emotionally needed 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.640 to be about the other person. That's a really good point, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.040 which I don't think people realize how draining that is 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.800 on because you're literally just having to be a chameleon 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.880 to whoever like that, whatever their emotion is. Yeah, and 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.680 it's I mean, look and when you and you're going 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.800 through things, I mean, you're you're going through your life. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.480 I'll never forget Ashley uh, Ashley's season when I was 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.280 going through my divorce and I think we're I think 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.880 we're in Thailand and I was going through I mean 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.000 literally going through it at the moment, because it's how 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.840 play around the world in time difference. It's three in 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.120 the morning or whatever, during a roast ceremony and I'm 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.360 about to walk in and do this sit down chat 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.880 with Ashley, and I've been texting on my phone with 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.000 my X and about everything going on back home. And 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.679 I walk in and I sit down and say, okay, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.040 so we're down to three guys and you're in love 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.360 with two of them. You know. I'm like, in my 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.520 mind is vomiting and spinning, you know, it's I I 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.200 my my brain is in a blender, and I just 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.000 have to like put a smile on it and go 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.040 through these steps because you're like, we're also you. How 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.719 do you compartmentalize where you're like, what I'm going through 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:41.360 is actually real and like you with two people on 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.079 an island, and like you know, like you, you you 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.200 probably felt like I have to separate myself and be 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.520 like I'm actually having real life outside of your problems 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.640 where you're in your bubble. I wanted to shake, don't 0:12:53.679 --> 0:13:00.440 do this. Love is fake, it's not real. But anyway, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.880 but actually, I mean the good news is if there's 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.040 a positive going through all that. It made me so 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.880 much more empathetic and understanding going through this with you 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.160 and with other bachelors and bachelorettes of like, I I 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.280 know what it's like to be heartbroken and go through 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.400 something crazy and try and find love and how and 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.760 how tumultuous all that is, all of it is, and 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.520 so it definitely helped me. But in those moments. It's 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.839 not an easy gig um but it's but it's it's 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.720 a rewarding one when you get to do it. It 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.720 is it is I just I mean, I know people 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.719 probably would listen and be like, oh no, you have 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.160 to have late hours and hot places like it does 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.079 sound like, but it really is hard work. And I 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.840 I commend you for all the all those years of 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.520 doing that, because that's not just I did one season. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:53.160 You were doing Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise, Bachelorette for twenty years. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.560 That's crazy. During my entire adult life, professional adult life, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:13.120 pretty much, the pasports are full, they are stamped. Let 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.280 me ask you, how are you? How are you doing? 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.360 Are you enjoying podcasting? Are you enjoying retired life? That 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.240 not really retired, but like, are are you? How are 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.600 you really truly doing? Thank you for asking. Um, I'm 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.200 really good. I am probably happier than I have ever been, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.800 thanks to the beautiful woman sitting next to me, l 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.480 z Um who I know you know and love as well. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.640 But no, we have. We have carved out a wonderful 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.200 life and built this life together and obviously moved to 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.600 Austin closer to my kids at TCU. And you know, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.760 when everybody's healthy and when things are rolling in life, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.400 it's that's it. It's you know, as as a parent, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.600 as whatever, it's if everyone's good and everyone healthy, then 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.880 I'm good and so we are, and we're in a 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.520 phenomenal place right now. We're excited about planning a wedding. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.480 We are excited about what's to come in our life. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:11.960 As are you, yes, planning a wedding? Help me with that? Yeah, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.360 there's a few of us in a row here what 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.640 we're Where are you guys? And all this? I know 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.320 I talked to Jason a lot, but we honestly, believe 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.520 it or not, don't talk a lot about the wedding. Um, 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.280 where are you guys in all this? It's we suck, 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.240 like we just honestly anytime we go to sit down 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.680 to talk about it, we literally want to do something else. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.720 And that sounds so terrible because it should be a priority, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.880 but it doesn't feel like one. And we're both okay 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.080 with that. Well that's all. That's all that matters. Yeah, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.720 I feel like, you know, it's there's so much noise 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.320 about like, well, why don't you guys talk about the 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.160 wedding or why is there not a wedding happening? And 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:54.120 it's like, I don't need to prove our relationship to 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.560 you through a wedding, Like that's I don't know, I 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.160 just don't. We both literally sat down the other day 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.120 to maybe go through like start a guest list, and 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.600 then we're we saw Yasi and like a bottle of wine, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.560 and like should we just play yasi and like drink 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.800 wine instead? And then we that's what we did. And 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.880 Lauren and I have been there as well, where we 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.760 it's not the biggest priority in our life. We've both 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.880 done it before, so you know it's not our first 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.960 and um, we're not worried about children and all that 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.520 in our lives. And so you're in a different place 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.160 and and so as long as you guys are communicating, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.280 as long as you're having you know, you're on the 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.840 same page, that's all that matters. That's all that matters. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.800 Are you happy, are you in love? And are you 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.160 happy with where you are? Then that's it. I know, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.880 why is it so hard for other people to understand 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:46.080 that though it's not about them? And I mean, and 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.280 I know you do. I mean case in point of 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.040 this whole thing in this interview you did. It's uh 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.680 And I know you and I know things become about 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.320 you and you internalize things, but it's not it's not 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.000 about everybody else and how they feel. And you know 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.560 what articles are written about you and Jason it's it's 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.040 about are you happy and are you in love? And look, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.240 you'll get there or guess what if you don't, So 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.280 you're Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn the rest of your life. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.520 Who cares, you know, and you're eternally dating. That's not 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.000 such as you know. I just had Michelle money on 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.399 and I know you know money, you know, and and 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.600 it's funny we have the same conversation because she and Mike, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.119 who I adore, we're just going to be forever partners. Great, whatever, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.040 And then it just changed for them all of a sudden, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.320 it just changed for them. You know what, No, we 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.280 do want to get married, great, so then do that. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.200 But it's not about pleasing everybody else. It was about 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.520 this made them feel good. And Elz and I got 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.480 to the same places. I really felt the same way. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.080 And then I'm like, no, no, no, I don't I 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.440 don't feel that way. I want to get down one knee. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.520 I want to propose to this woman. I want to 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.240 change I want to change this and take it to 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.200 a different place. And we did and then that felt 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.840 and that felt right, and then the next step will 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.000 feel right. So that's so that's okay. Just go at 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.200 your own speed in as long as you guys are happy, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.280 that's all anyone should care about. Thank you for that. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.320 I needed that. See, this is what I need in 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.200 my life, the Chris Harrison advice. I appreciate that. And 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.600 you know I love you and Jason and that will 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.800 never change. And then, if anybody takes anything away from 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.439 this show, I want everyone to know that in no 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.960 way was I upset by that interview. I wanted to 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.040 clear some things up, yes, and but in no way 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.760 was upset and I was in no way upset that 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.960 you and Tasha were hosting the show, and I love 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.560 you both. I'm glad everybody got to kind of watch 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.040 this and share share you and I going through a 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.560 real life moment. Yes, I agree with you when you 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.960 said back at the start of the podcast that I'm 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.560 actually not. Of course, I wish I would have connected 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.600 with you, but I'm glad we didn't until this moment 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:55.040 because I love authentic conversations that are real, and we 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.160 probably would have just gotten into this on the phone. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.119 So it's nice to have like the real chat on 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.720 the podcast. But I will say, people want to hear 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.760 from you, and it's cool because we've seen you as 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.639 Chris Harrison the host for so long, um, but we 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.280 don't actually get to know you as a human being. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.080 And a podcast gives you that opportunity to be a 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.760 real human being. And I think that's awesome for you. Well, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.840 And what I what I love is that I get 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.919 to do for everybody what I did for you and 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.720 what I did for all the bachelors and bacherettes for 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.640 so many years, where I get to kind of dive 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:32.119 into the life and listen and try and help journalism 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.800 one oh one. Don't ever talk to a guest before 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:40.520 you interview them, And although we tried to break that rule, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.719 we didn't. And and as far as genuine conversations go, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.760 I hope everybody's enjoyed this one, because this has been 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.199 very genuine. This was Caitlin and I talking for the 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.600 first time in quite some time, and I'm so glad 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.200 we did. You are a dear friend. I love you, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:02.479 I love Jason, and I appreciate you coming on and 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.200 talking in this manner because I'm sure this is a 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.800 little trepidacious for you. I'm sure you were a little 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.479 worried of like, oh God, how is this going to go. 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.040 I was like, I've done this before. He's good, he's 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:15.679 really good. I don't know what he's going to get 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.560 out of me. No, you're amazing. You're meant to be 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.639 doing this. This is you know, Like you said, the 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.320 time is right and it's nice for you to have 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.119 a voice. And I'm really excited for you to be 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.800 in the podcasting family. There's room for all of us. 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.040 There is room for all of us. And as I 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.520 said at the wedding, I'm always here for you. Oh 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.119 I love you. Thank you for having me on and 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.240 for having this conversation with me. I can now sleep 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.720 at night. Good. You can go on to the next 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:50.000 thing you can be nuts about. Thank god, Caitlin Bristow. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.040 Thank you for your time, thank you for joining me, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.399 and I will see you very soon, next time with 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:00.320 a beautiful bottle of wine. Yes, that's now. I'm gonna 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.000 make you come online and then I'm going to feed 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.679 us wine again, because remember my golden rule of life, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.960 life is too short drink good wine to drink crappy wine. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.800 Oh yeah, yeah, life for her to drink rappy wine. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.199 You do say that. That's that's why I came up 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.000 with my own line, because then I'm like, I just 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.080 get it for free all the time. That's even better. 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.879 Or I guess the new line is the best wine 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.720