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Speaker 1: not James Co, but the whiz kid from Wisconsin running

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Speaker 1: the show. James Co, Marcus Grant, and Michael Fabiano all

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Speaker 1: welcome Matt Harmon not from West Virginia and Matt the

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Speaker 1: It's going great? What's up? It's like the I don't

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Speaker 1: even know. It's like the are we the B Crew? Now?

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Speaker 1: We we're the BA, We're the A team. Bro's eight teams.

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Speaker 1: uh getting the Gino Smith treatment on FABS when he

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Speaker 1: was sick for Fantasy Lives. So maybe you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing that on the podcast now. Maybe this is the

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Speaker 1: beginning of something new and different and exciting. Yeah. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: once once everybody realizes this is the best podcast ever recorded,

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Speaker 1: Only be a matter of time until the Shadowy League

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Speaker 1: three of us, have our own podcast instead, but no,

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Speaker 1: we will miss those guys. We will try to carry

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Speaker 1: on in their stead. But we have a pretty big

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Speaker 1: show today as always, even though it's week seventeen, which

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that later. We'll recap the Monday night game.

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Speaker 1: First off, we'll get to a few top headlines. There's

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Speaker 1: Broncos Harmon. You covered it, uh, Jeremy Hill, Joe Bernard

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Speaker 1: not uh and the pass catchers did okay. But what

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Speaker 1: and and Hill was just bad and he's been been

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Speaker 1: and you could see that last night. It just made

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Speaker 1: But on the flip side, the Broncos brock Lobster, boss Wiler,

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Speaker 1: that game because the Bills have not looked great recently.

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Speaker 1: But this is one of those stupid narrative Rex Ryan

427
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Speaker 1: revenge games. God, so Bills lost. I think the Bills

428
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Speaker 1: lost against the Jets earlier they did a season so

429
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Speaker 1: beat the Jets. Remember, because there's all the there's all

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Speaker 1: those Rex Ryan gifts of him screaming up a profanity

431
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Speaker 1: and right like gyrating all around. Oh yeah, that was

432
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Speaker 1: I think that was a bad game for Ryan Fitzpatrick

433
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Speaker 1: if I remember right. It was. It was a Thursday

434
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Speaker 1: night game too. It was color rush it. It was

435
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Speaker 1: the one where people couldn't see it because the jerseys

436
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Speaker 1: were all great and the color blind people couldn't know

437
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Speaker 1: which team was which. Yeah. But as far as blot

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Speaker 1: Pal versus Chris Ivory in this game, I do think

439
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Speaker 1: like pass catching running backs and like kind of slashing

440
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Speaker 1: sort of running backs have been the guys to go

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Speaker 1: with against the Bills, So you would think that it

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Speaker 1: is another Powell game. Um, And I mean the Jets

443
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Speaker 1: could blow the Bills out. The Bills are a really

444
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Speaker 1: bad team and they're kind of folding from the inside.

445
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Speaker 1: But I do think it'll probably be competitive. Rex will

446
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Speaker 1: get his guys up. You know, that's like you live

447
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Speaker 1: by you live by the Rex, you die by the Rex,

448
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Speaker 1: And like this will be a live by the Rex

449
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Speaker 1: game where they get all up for this one because

450
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Speaker 1: they don't have anything else to play for. And uh

451
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Speaker 1: and again you can check out all these guys at

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Speaker 1: uh NFL dot com slash waivers ended up righting righting

453
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Speaker 1: up fifteen guys in total. Some wide receivers to look at, Uh,

454
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Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton that Pittsburgh passing offense could rebound this week

455
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Speaker 1: against the Browns. Not a bad look. Uh, Kamar Aikin,

456
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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about him, guys. He's he's

457
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Speaker 1: been playing some pretty darn good football the last couple

458
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Speaker 1: of weeks and is still owned. His ownership percentages climbed

459
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Speaker 1: thankfully because we've been writing about him for weeks over here. Um,

460
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Speaker 1: but he is still available in just shy of of

461
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com league. So yeah, I watched that Ravens

462
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Speaker 1: Steelers game unfortunately Sunday, but Kmar Aiken, you know, he

463
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Speaker 1: had he led the wide receivers and targets with eight.

464
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Speaker 1: He had eight catches for sixty six yards. And that's

465
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Speaker 1: around what he's been doing every week. Um, even with

466
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Speaker 1: Ryan Mallen on her center, who looked like a competent

467
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Speaker 1: quarterback the other day, which as but um, I think

468
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Speaker 1: Camar Aiken especially in PPR leagues like you can't you

469
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Speaker 1: can't bank on the touchdown. But he's gonna get the

470
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Speaker 1: volume and he's gonna get you enough yards. Right, He's

471
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Speaker 1: got a real safe floor. He's somebody I know Harmon

472
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Speaker 1: you mentioned it too, but I've I've been curious to

473
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Speaker 1: watch him in the off season more and like dive

474
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Speaker 1: into that tape because I think I think he might

475
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Speaker 1: be might be a sneaky guy for next year. Yeah. Absolutely, Um,

476
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Speaker 1: he's a guy I really want to study this year

477
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Speaker 1: or this offseason. And he's been impressive, like and they've

478
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Speaker 1: asked a lot of him. I think this is probably

479
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Speaker 1: like he's led the team in targets pretty much since

480
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith went out. He's been kind of the guy

481
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Speaker 1: they just funneled the offense through and he's responded. I mean,

482
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Speaker 1: he's had some solid games and he's not blowing up

483
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: of course. Um, but it could like we were talking

484
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Speaker 1: about this in in slack chat yesterday, Uh, he pretty

485
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Speaker 1: much could be. He might be the number two receiver too. Well,

486
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Speaker 1: he might be the number one and Perryman might start

487
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Speaker 1: opposite him. You know, their first round pick who didn't

488
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Speaker 1: play it all this year. So he's definitely guy they

489
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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the offense in the future.

490
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Speaker 1: So yeah, when shab was playing too, he had high

491
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Speaker 1: praise for for Akin too. So we remember your epic

492
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Speaker 1: with the miracle, right, and actually, I wonder what was

493
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Speaker 1: your miracle you wanted him to be, like, would be

494
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Speaker 1: a top ten fantasy Roger sever the rest of the

495
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Speaker 1: way for weeks or something. Well, I mean he hasn't

496
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Speaker 1: been terrible. He's in the top twenty five. He's just

497
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Speaker 1: he had that big Hail Mary touchdown catch which helped

498
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Speaker 1: him out right, um, weeks ago. But another guy that

499
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Speaker 1: you want to look at. Two on waivers in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: if Cecil Short sits again, you got a Washington. Washington,

501
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Speaker 1: he was on my list. Yeah, it was he. Okay,

502
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Speaker 1: that's good. I don't read the waiver column. That's fine, thanks, Bro.

503
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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. But no, I mean Washington averages double

504
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Speaker 1: digit targets when Shorts is out. He's caught all of

505
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Speaker 1: us touchdowns when I think four now. Yeah, yeah, so

506
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want look at for sure.

507
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Speaker 1: The Texans offenses clicking on with Brandon Weeden, who I

508
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Speaker 1: put as kind of a yolo streamer at the end

509
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Speaker 1: of the article too, it was like, why not if

510
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Speaker 1: you're playing in week seventeen, I might make a DFS

511
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Speaker 1: lineup with Brandon Weeden just for if you had a

512
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Speaker 1: DFS lineup with that. That was somehow like a super

513
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Speaker 1: value triple stack with Nuke, Washington, Washington and Weedon. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: that was a pretty good one. Did you call that

515
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Speaker 1: a super stack? Sup superstack or triple stack? You know

516
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Speaker 1: you can call it either. Um and then uh, Dontrell

517
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: dontrell inman one more wide receiver to look for. Um,

518
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Speaker 1: he's been Levin targets, leven targets. He's he's an athletic guy.

519
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Speaker 1: He's he's a dynamic playmaker. He can be. But um,

520
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Speaker 1: that Chargers offense just they need to get the ball

521
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Speaker 1: to somebody. And he's like the top past fast catching

522
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Speaker 1: option not named Danny Woodhader Antonio Gates. Now by default

523
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Speaker 1: he's kind of like the camar An of the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Now one more interesting interesting set up here, and this

525
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Speaker 1: is something we could spin into our matchups discussion for

526
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Speaker 1: some DFS picks just week seventeen. In general, Sam Bradford

527
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Speaker 1: has actually been playing decently. He's he missed some big

528
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Speaker 1: throws in that last game, but he's been playing better

529
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Speaker 1: of late, and so has zach Ertz in this week.

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Speaker 1: They they're both lower owned in NFL dot com leagues.

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Speaker 1: In this week, they get to go up against the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, who I tweeted this yesterday. If they

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Speaker 1: allow a hundred and ninety seven passing yards, they will

534
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Speaker 1: set a new all time record for the most passing

535
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Speaker 1: yards allowed in a single sixteen game season. Their secondary

536
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Speaker 1: has not been great. The Eagles passing offense has been clicking.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews has been doing stuff too. I kind of

538
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Speaker 1: like both these guys this week. Uh, in this matchup,

539
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Speaker 1: what about you, guys, Harmon will jump to you first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it definitely seems like the offense is kind

541
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Speaker 1: of sort of finding its footing here towards the end

542
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Speaker 1: of the year. Passing offense, at least, the passing Yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: the running offense is a complete complete dumpster fire. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you try to split your committee

545
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Speaker 1: three ways. Um. But anyways, sorry personal pet peeve of mind,

546
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Speaker 1: but okay, the Sam Bradford has looked pretty good. Zach

547
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Speaker 1: Ertz has led the team in targets. I think a

548
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Speaker 1: bunch of last four weeks. Yeah, he got seventeen last week,

549
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Speaker 1: caught twelve passes. I think you can pretty I think

550
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Speaker 1: you can start him um and Yeah, the Giants have

551
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Speaker 1: been pretty terrible against tight ends. I think they allow

552
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Speaker 1: the higher one of the highest touchdown rates and I

553
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Speaker 1: think they've allowed over a thousand yards like three weeks

554
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Speaker 1: ago to tight ends. So yeah, let's take a look.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a team that you can exploit with that position,

556
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Speaker 1: and which makes sense because they've they're week at safety

557
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Speaker 1: um and they've always had kind of like a fetish

558
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Speaker 1: for slow footed linebackers that can't cover um so and

559
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Speaker 1: along the same lines there that I kind of like

560
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Speaker 1: Georgan Matthews this week because their weakest corner is the

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Speaker 1: slot corner they had Trevin Wade was. I think there's

562
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Speaker 1: a slot corner um and he might still be playing

563
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Speaker 1: in that position, but they've kind of cycled guys in

564
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Speaker 1: and out where they're pretty strong on the outside, So

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Speaker 1: I think that could mean Matthews gets open a lot.

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Speaker 1: And again he'll run some of his routes against those

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Speaker 1: slow footed linebackers and the safeties, so if you need

568
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Speaker 1: and he's had a hundred yards back back games, back

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Speaker 1: to back seams and touchdowns. Yes, that is true. Four

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Speaker 1: touchdowns the last five games. And it's funny that we

571
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Speaker 1: kind of like Jordan Matthews. We're all pretty disappointed in

572
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Speaker 1: George Matthews. Provided he at least has like a decent

573
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Speaker 1: game this week, he's probably gonna cross a thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: I think Matthews could be like an interesting draft bargain

575
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Speaker 1: next year, um, especially if like I think Chip Kelly,

576
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Speaker 1: like I just got kind of obsessed with pigeonholing Matthews

577
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Speaker 1: in this role, like that's like slot, big slot receiver role,

578
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Speaker 1: and it it was kind of hurt. It kind of

579
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Speaker 1: hurt his stock for a while because he wasn't getting

580
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Speaker 1: like any downfield targets. But he can at least make

581
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Speaker 1: some plays downfield. I think he's starting to catch on.

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Speaker 1: And one thing about Matthew is like sometimes he plays

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Speaker 1: a little a little passive, like he doesn't play up

584
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Speaker 1: to his side. But one thing, like I've noticed the

585
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks watching them, is like he's starting

586
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Speaker 1: to like every time he makes a catch, he gets

587
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Speaker 1: up and gets into it, and you like to see

588
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Speaker 1: that from a big guy like being competitive like that

589
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Speaker 1: and you have to make more catches in traffic as

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Speaker 1: a results. It almost seemed like earlier in the year

591
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Speaker 1: it got into his head like he had kid that

592
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Speaker 1: drops and stuff that he wasn't playing as aggressively and

593
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Speaker 1: attacking the ball and being his physical afterwards because he

594
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Speaker 1: had the drops in like a couple of fumbles I

595
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Speaker 1: think in the first few weeks. So it has been

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Speaker 1: good and I think you're right, Like next year, maybe

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Speaker 1: look target Matthews and like those mid to late rounds

598
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Speaker 1: like that, because his value is certainly going to be

599
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Speaker 1: depressed in season long drafts after people got burned taking

600
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Speaker 1: him in what the fourth round this year or whoever,

601
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Speaker 1: however highly he was drafted pretty highly, so you can

602
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on him as he falls probably a

603
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Speaker 1: couple of rounds lower than that, and maybe catch him

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Speaker 1: ready for because he's entering his third year, right, and

605
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: that used to be the old, the old wide receiver

606
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Speaker 1: breakout year. Those guys have been on a quicker learning

607
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: curve these days. Um, but all right, let's spil that

608
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Speaker 1: one into a matchups discussion. What else do we like

609
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Speaker 1: this week? One I had circled, uh, and this is

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Speaker 1: kind of a kind of narrative, kind of not. But

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones is uh sixteen receptions shy of tying Marvin

612
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Speaker 1: Harrison's record for a single season of a hundred forty three.

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Speaker 1: Something tells me that the Falcons are going to try

614
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Speaker 1: and get him there. I mean, he already gets funneled

615
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: targets like nobody's business in that offense. But he's also playing.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I already forgot who's playing. It's the Saints

617
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: who do not have a great passing defense. What do

618
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Speaker 1: you guys think about Julio this week? And uh in DFS,

619
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Speaker 1: especially where his value is probably gonna be pretty high,

620
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna explode harmon. Yeah, I mean I definitely like that.

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Speaker 1: Uh Actually, all of um Brown uh nuke Julio, and

622
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Speaker 1: I think O'Dell to those guys all have good matchup.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough, tough decisions at the top there.

624
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Speaker 1: But I like Julio a lot and he'll definitely be

625
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Speaker 1: super popular in DFS, though he will probably I would

626
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Speaker 1: guests just shooting off the cuff here that he probably

627
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: ends up with the highest ownership percentage just because of

628
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Speaker 1: the chance at a big game last week too. You

629
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Speaker 1: had a big game last week and you know everybody's

630
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: talking about it because they beat the Panthers and and

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Speaker 1: their matchup with the Saints will dictate that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people go to him. Uh And speaking of Brown,

633
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the entire passing attack could hopefully have it

634
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Speaker 1: bounce back game against the Cleveland secondary that has not

635
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Speaker 1: been great this year. Joe Hayden is Joe Hayden on

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Speaker 1: I R. Now, yeah, he's on I R. Their first

637
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: round pick, just Justin Gilbert from last year. It's usually

638
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch. I don't think he's injured anymore. He's bad.

639
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: The secondary is kind of a mess right now. Um,

640
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: what do we think about the Steelers passing attack? Is

641
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryan ever gonna do anything again this year? I

642
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: don't know they need to get him involved again to

643
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: to win though, because they haven't. He hasn't been as

644
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: involved the last couple of weeks. And has it? Has

645
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: it looked like to you franchise that they've almost kind

646
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: of had Mark Tavis Bryant Marcus Wheaton like switch roles.

647
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: Like in a way like Wheaton has been running a

648
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: lot of like downfield routes and Mark Tavis has had

649
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: um like he's been almost used like a possession receiver

650
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: and they've used them a lot of end arounds, yea

651
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: rushing stuff like a gadget type guy. It seems it

652
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: seems odd to me, like it doesn't really make a

653
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But like, am I crazy thinking that

654
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: or or what? I don't want to say. I don't know.

655
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Wheat is better than Brian. No, no,

656
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean Wheaton's Wheaton has been getting more

657
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: looks and been having better fantasy games the last month

658
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: five weeks, then Brian has And there was a point

659
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: in the like mid season, where it was just like

660
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it was only a matter of time until Big Ben

661
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: took a deep shot to Briant for like an a

662
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: d R touchdown was routinely Yeah, it was. It was

663
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: happening all the time, and I don't know, I haven't

664
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: seen that happen in a couple of weeks, and Bryant's

665
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: fantasy numbers have suffered because of it. Of course, Antonio

666
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: Brown is keeping up his you know, his pace of however,

667
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: eight or nine catches and eight yards a game. He

668
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: had a kind of a down game last week, but

669
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: so did everyone on the Steelers except Angela Williams. Um,

670
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: But I mean I might start if I had Wheaton

671
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: and Brian on my fantasy team, I might go with

672
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: Wheaton over Brant this week. Crazy. Yeah, this is this

673
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: is I'm just looking it up now. Um. From Pro

674
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: pro Football Focus Fantasy UM. Marcus Wheaton has a fifteen

675
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: point one average depth of targets since Week thirteen. Mark

676
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Tavis Bryant nine point eight. Oh my god, that's so weird, bizarre,

677
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: like moving away from what they've had success with. Yeah,

678
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: it's confusing. Yeah, that's I would I would need to

679
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: look at that more deeply and watch the tape. But

680
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: that's insane. UM. Okay, well that makes me sad about

681
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Mark Tavis Bryant. Good thing my I lost in the

682
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: championship in the league. I have him in one of them.

683
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: I did win in the other one. The other thing

684
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: in that game is D'Angelo Williams will be a beast. Yes, yes,

685
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: as usual as usual. Another matchup I had circled Jets

686
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Bills UM, mostly for the Jets because the Bills they're

687
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: running backs. Both had good games last week, but are

688
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: running into a Jets front that has been playing outstanding football,

689
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: which also makes me work a little bit worried about

690
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Durell Reeves has been healthy, so he could

691
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: lock down on Sammy Watkins, who I'd be interested harmon.

692
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: While you're on that, what Sammy Watkins average depth of

693
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: target has been at least for the last like four

694
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: or five weeks or so. I mean maybe in general,

695
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: it feels like they're not using him on a lot

696
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: of intermediate routes and it's mostly just deep shots, which

697
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: feels like a disservice. But anyways, you would be correct.

698
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: His average depth of target for the last four weeks

699
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: is twenty point nine. Wow, and he's had what are

700
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: how many targets has he had the last four weeks?

701
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: He's had quite a few, right, Yeah, I mean he's

702
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: pretty much been dominating the target share. Last week or

703
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: this past game, he had thirty five point three percent

704
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: of the targets. But it's only is that that's that

705
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: was only six targets. If they're kind of like Chiefs

706
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: passing offense, Jerry Macklin has been the same way. He

707
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: owns like a ridiculous share of the targets, but it's

708
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: only a few of them. The difference is that Macklin

709
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: is being used in those short intermediate areas. Sammy has

710
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: been basically just like almost like what you think of

711
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: Mark Davis Bryant, like a deep threat sort of guy, right.

712
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he had ten and twelve in the two

713
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: weeks before that, hauled in five catches in each game,

714
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: and then had four against Houston, but had three for nine.

715
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: To his credit, he's converting them. I mean, he only

716
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: has a catch right because they're using him so far

717
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: down the field, but he's a cat Fifteen passes for

718
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: two seventy six yards and three touchdowns. Yeah, it's been

719
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: the last three week. He's done. He's done quite well,

720
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: but it just feels weird, like why wouldn't you run

721
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: him on some other routes. Well, I mean, I think

722
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: the one thing with him is like he shows and

723
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: I think this tricks people when you just like when

724
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you just sit down and watch I'm not gonna I'm

725
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna try not to rant on this, so please hit me.

726
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: I'll cut you off east long. So I think when

727
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: you just like sit down to watch tape and you like,

728
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: if you see flashes of something, you start to like

729
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: you really your brain has like a vestal reaction and

730
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: you you over emphasize it because you like extrapolate to

731
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: be like this is what the player does. And that's

732
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: the thing with Watkins, Like he shows like literally elite

733
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: route running potential, but he only shows it on like

734
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: five to six routes of games. And I think people

735
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: think that he can run a whole route tree. But

736
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: one thing that was definitely true last year and even

737
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: going back to his college tape at Clemson, was he

738
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: just wasn't asked to do that all the time. So

739
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: he's still learning, and I think that's probably part. It's

740
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: definitely like some of Rex Ryan, you know, Bill's offense,

741
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Greg Rome and all that, um. But also I think

742
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: some of it has to do with him too. Yeah,

743
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a fair point. Um. But so on

744
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: the flip side, Decker Marshall, great starts. We already talked

745
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: about Powell Power. Wow, Powell talked about him a little bit.

746
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: If it's Magic too, I don't I don't mind him

747
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: this week, Yeah, great Bills. I mean, Bill's defense has

748
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: been a pretty big disappointment absolutely, Alright, any other matchups

749
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: or things you guys wanted to talk about for this week.

750
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: I did mention it might be worthwhile to follow the

751
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: news surrounding the Patriots. They have the first round bot

752
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I think they have the one seed locked up now too.

753
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: I was I was messing around on the playoff predictor.

754
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way they can lose it.

755
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: I forget if it's seen that in print based on

756
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals losing on Monday Night. So there is a

757
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: chance with that team being so banged up that they

758
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: might take pull those guys out a little bit to

759
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: save them up and get get extra healthy. So could

760
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: be something to watch there. Yeah, definitely. UM one thing

761
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: I would I would look for if you're playing in

762
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: week and I haven't really even begun research, but if

763
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: you're playing in week seventeen, if you're playing DFS, look

764
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: at some of these like bad teams going against each other,

765
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: like UM Saints Atlanta was kind of one I was

766
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: circling there. We mentioned a little bit Jacksonville and Houston.

767
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Houston is going to the playoffs probably, but

768
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: they still don't have it like locked up. They have

769
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: to they have to win and India has to lose

770
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: for them. To get in. No, there's wait for Houston. Yeah, no,

771
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Houston is pretty much fine because they're all win as

772
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: long as they win for sure. Um. But otherwise, like

773
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: ten things, like I think nine things still have to

774
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: happen for the Colts to make the playoffs. Okay, yeah right,

775
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I remember Dan hans Is posted that. Okay, um yeah so,

776
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: but but still the Texans have to win. They have

777
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: to at least, you know, try, and I think in Jacksonville,

778
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: you know, we know how they are. They're a good offensive,

779
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: bad defense. So games like that, I wouldn't probably say

780
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: the same for St. Louis and San Francisco that I

781
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: was just gonna bring that game up. I was going

782
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: to say, how about the Rams and the forty Niners guys,

783
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: maybe maybe some girly, probably definitely girly. Yeah, but that

784
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: was the Rams are also Tavon Austin week again, it

785
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: could be he was quiet last week and he's up

786
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and down. I wouldn't. I would only ever like play

787
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: him at home. Yeah, I actually kind of want to

788
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: look at his home road splits and see if there's

789
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: anything to that, because you know, fast track dome fast track, Yeah,

790
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Um. Other games, maybe Lions Bears. I

791
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that game because I

792
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: don't know, like Calvin Johnson finally got back on track,

793
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: but I was hearing rumors I forget it was on

794
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: the A T N podcast, which you guys should also

795
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: download from iTunes and Stitcher, or it was somewhere else.

796
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: But because Calvin's got a massive cap number next year,

797
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: so you wonder if they're gonna, you know, ride them

798
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: out here and feed him a bunch of targets or

799
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: not to try and depress his numbers for negotiating tactics,

800
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: Like I have no idea. Yeah, I was talking about

801
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: that the Opportunity report to like I might. I worry

802
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: about it too. I wonder if he gets a bunch

803
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: of targets just for the fact that maybe they want

804
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: to showcase him in a trade to um, which I

805
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: don't know if teams actually really do that, if they

806
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: actually put a lot of thought into that sort of stuff.

807
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: But it would be kind of an interesting idea because,

808
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: like you said, his cap numbers massive, They're probably headed

809
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: towards another rebuild, and I think that I would be

810
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: kind of surprised in my head, like a rational part

811
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: of me thinks that he won't be back next year,

812
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: but he's been a big player for them, so who knows.

813
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he he really is like the face of

814
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: that franchise though. Yeah, but he's like I hate to

815
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: say this, but like he's definitely not He's not the same.

816
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: He's not the same. He also hasn't been healthy. Yeah,

817
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: he's been running on a bum ankle for weeks. Yeah.

818
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: That and the thing with like older receivers like if

819
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: they can't if they can't become like slot receiver possession guys,

820
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: like they fall off a cliff quick. Um. Brandon Marshall's

821
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: kind of made that transition as he's aged, and he's

822
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: only like I think he's only Galvin are about the

823
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: same age though he should. I think he's a little younger,

824
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: maybe by a year, so but I'll look that up quick.

825
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, like Calvin is still running all the same

826
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: routes that he did when he was younger, but he

827
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: can't like go up and get the football. He can't

828
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: separate like he used to because of all the injuries

829
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: to like you mentioned, so he disappeared like not this

830
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: last week, but the two weeks. Wow. Actually, Brandon Marshall

831
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: is a year older than Calvin Johnson. Yeah, I mean

832
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I figured Calvin's only like thirty. He's he's he's thirty.

833
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: He'll turn thirty one next September. Yeah, but when you

834
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: start to lose some of those like physical gift like

835
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: I always think of because I'm from d C. I

836
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: always think about like Santana Moss and how Yeah, he

837
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: used to be like an elite like deep threat speed guy,

838
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: but then like when he turned about thirty three, he

839
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: turned into kind of like a Wes Welker like slot

840
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: receiver sort of thing, and it exceeded his career. He

841
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: did well with that for a couple of years there.

842
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: So those that's like the thing if Calvin is gonna

843
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: be a good player going forward, he needs to kind

844
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: of he's he's just been so bad in that role.

845
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: He needs to kind of transform his game a little.

846
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he could though with his with

847
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: his body and his skill set. Yeah, he's still a

848
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: huge red zone bread and you know we've seen Larry

849
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald do very well in a roll more like that

850
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Arizona right now. All right, So that's pretty good for

851
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: the matchups because it have more specific questions. Again, you

852
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Matt Harmon Underscore b

853
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: y B, at Matt Franchise, and at Alex Gelher. Will

854
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: also post our weekly matchups column on Thursday. I believe

855
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: we'll try and get that on a New Year's Eve

856
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: with probably a little bit more of an eye towards

857
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: DFS than we usually do, since again, playing in week

858
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: seventeen is crazy all right now? Uh, As I said,

859
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve is Thursday night. The year is coming

860
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: to a close, and for the most part, the fantasy

861
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: season is done, and it has been a weird, weird season. Uh.

862
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: Most of the first round draft picks were either huge

863
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: busts looking at you, Eddie Lacy or suffered huge injuries. UH.

864
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Lots of wide receivers change, we had some breakouts. The

865
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: quarterback landscape was a little different than we looked at. UH.

866
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: So basically we're gonna sit here and talk about for

867
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: a few minutes to wrap up the pod before Day

868
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: of the depths, some of the things we learned, what

869
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: we took away from this weird season, and how we're

870
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: going to use that in our research, you know, going

871
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: forward to plan and help all of you guys chase

872
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: another title or come for your first title in So, Harmon,

873
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: I know you had a rant you were thinking of,

874
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: and franchise will will give you a sec to think

875
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: about what you want to talk about first. But Harmon,

876
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: why don't you take the floor with your your running

877
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: back rant that you were going on a little bit

878
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: yesterday in our slack client chat. Yeah, I was homesick yesterday.

879
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: It was just assaulting you guys in slack, Like I

880
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: just thought about this listen to me. But um, which

881
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: is pretty much what I do all day on Twitter. Um. So,

882
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: I think we like really obsessed about matchups too much

883
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: in fantasy football, and especially at the running back position. Um.

884
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: We we definitely, you know, we start targeting these teams

885
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: like the Chargers this year, the Browns this year, where

886
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: teams that be consistently targeted. Um. However, sometimes they think

887
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: if a running back has a bad matchup, we get

888
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: too scared off, especially if it's like not an elite

889
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: level player like Adrian Peterson has a bad match be

890
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: still playing. We get that, but like, I think there

891
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: are better indicators indicators to running back success. And I've

892
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: talked about it with D'Angelo Williams a lot this year

893
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: that like volume and um, his overall like role in

894
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: that offense was a better indicator than like if he

895
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: had a bad matchup. We saw it like against the Ravens.

896
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: You know the Steelers. Theoretically we're gonna attack through the air.

897
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: But Williams had a hundred and fifty total yards I think,

898
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: and probably I think more than that, six catches and

899
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. So and I think I learned the lesson

900
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: the hard way with Tim high Tower yesterday. Um, and

901
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am literally ranting right now. I'm like,

902
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: any It's fine. Like Dave Feldman, our social media guy,

903
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: came over and talked to us on Sunday and he

904
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: asked us Kristin Michael or Tim high Tower. And I

905
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: said Kristin Michael because for one, because it was just

906
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: obsessed with the upside and the matchup against the Rams.

907
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: That was my big thing there. I was like, it's

908
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: a better match against the Rams. Jaguar is allowed three

909
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: point five yards per carry coming into Week sixteen. But

910
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: in my head, like this thing that I've been thinking

911
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: all along was that high Tower was the better play

912
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: because a his team was projected to win by pretty

913
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: much anybody out there, Like as long as Drew Brees

914
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: was playing, they were at home, they were gonna win,

915
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: like a team that's gonna win most likely and they're

916
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: at home. That's a huge correlation to running back success.

917
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: And like we knew high Tower was going to get

918
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: the volume, like we heard on Sunday they were gonna

919
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: bench c. J. Spillery was gonna be a healthy scratch

920
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: or what they said. He's not healthy, but whatever, we

921
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: know that he is. They just didn't want to play him,

922
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: thanks Saints. So like if you have a running back

923
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: like a Tim high Tower who's you know, not an

924
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: all star player, but he's also like he's fresh and

925
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: he's playing pretty well lately, um, and they're gonna get

926
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: a ton of volume and they're in like a favorable spot,

927
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily the matchup, Like I said that Jags have

928
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: a tough run defense, but but they all but we

929
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: knew the game was gonna flow, like be a positive

930
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: game script for running backs at the Saints gotta lead,

931
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: which they did, and they were at home. I think

932
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: like those three things are far better indicators to running

933
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: back success than a matchup game script. So game script,

934
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: a home game script and volume are just so much

935
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: more are so much more favorable. And we even like

936
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: I learned that lesson the hard way with Tim high

937
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: Tower three weeks ago against the Bucks where they had

938
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: it was a bad matchup. Again, the Bucks have like

939
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: had a top five of Football Outsiders d v O

940
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: a run defense pretty much the whole year. Um, but

941
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: high Tower got twenty seven carries, he scored a touchdown,

942
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: had ninety yards. So again that's like the same thing

943
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: if the team like the and the Bucks and things

944
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: are probably like equal level teams. But again, like game

945
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: script and volume, like those should be the things that

946
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: we look Those should be the box that we check

947
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: off first when we're talking about running backs and matchup

948
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: should be like and I know we all like everybody's

949
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: got a great like you know, some sort of system

950
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: to determine matchups, whether it's fantasy points against or you know,

951
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: whatever your system in efficiency, yards percary, whatever exactly. But

952
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: I just think that we should look at those two things, like,

953
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: especially in DFS one week sort of situation, those should

954
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: be the things we look at first. And like I said,

955
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: I I learned that with with D'Angelo Williams DeVonta Freeman,

956
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Sharkandric West, and then I just threw it all out

957
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: to win. I screwed the pooch again with Tim high

958
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: Tower this week that I still started in a championship game,

959
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: But I felt I felt bad that I had advised

960
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: people to sit him pretty much all over the place. There.

961
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: There are certainly cases for and against that, Like DeVonta

962
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: Freeman was one of the ones. We should have picked

963
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: up on that earlier when he was getting all of

964
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: the volume and was in pretty favorable game scripts early

965
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: on during his his toward pace where he scored what

966
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: was a nine ten touchdowns in like five weeks. I

967
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: mean outside the matchups, they were all they were all

968
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: good spots for him to perform well, and he did.

969
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: He did perform well with the mass amount volume. On

970
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: the flip side, there are situations like the Melvin Gordon case.

971
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Granted he wasn't playing as good a football as some

972
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: of these other guys, but like he had Vault, he

973
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: had good volume in positive spots for that offense. But

974
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: just yeah, but did San Diego like ever have a

975
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: good game script? You know, like that's the team, Like

976
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: you can't really trust a bad football team like that

977
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: has bad. There are certainly bad. Yeah, and they're Yeah

978
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: their offensive line especially that's the biggest. And I mean

979
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: there were cases to where with even that Jags offense

980
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: where like t J Yelden had positive game stripts going

981
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: this way, but he just didn't get the touchdowns. So

982
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: for sure, Well the Jags are weird like they I

983
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: think Blake Bortles like recently has like a ridiculous amount

984
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: of red zone and tips, like they just keep chucking

985
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: it or gave it to Denard Robinson. Yeah, that that

986
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: one Titans game was painful. And that's a funny thing

987
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: too that like again coming back to this lesson, like

988
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I this lesson that I learned, Like with with with

989
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: Denard Robinson, I kept saying, like, yeah, Denard Robinson better

990
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: play than Tim Hike Tower this week. But what in

991
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: like what in my mind and all of our minds

992
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: like made Denard Robinson such a good play when t

993
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: J Yelden was not getting those like red zone touches

994
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: or getting you know, getting in the favorable spots just

995
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: because I don't know, it seems like sometimes I know

996
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: that I get obsessed with like a talented guy that's

997
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: coming into a favorable spot, like overrate him more than

998
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: even the starter a sleeper exactly. Alright, good, good rants.

999
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: It will definitely something I was that was something I

1000
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: wanted to look at too. It's kind of like, and

1001
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: with those matchups, what guys were, like, if we're just

1002
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: looking at a matchup base, what guys consistently beat it too,

1003
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: and whether it was volume or their own talent or

1004
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: offense and stuff like that along. I don't want to

1005
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: use the Giants backfield as an example, but in Week

1006
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: fifteen against the Panthers, Rashan Jennings had sixteen carries for

1007
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: a hundred and seven yards and a touchdown, and Shane

1008
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: Vereen scored in that game too, And nobody probably started

1009
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: the Giants running running backs that game, but it was

1010
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: a thirty eight thirty five game, and you know that

1011
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: that was a horrible matchup on paper, and both those

1012
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: dudes came through, So yeah, there were other indicators that

1013
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: could have pointed towards somebody having success in that game. Yeah,

1014
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: that's the like, that's just the thing with running backs,

1015
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just more about feeding them and

1016
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: getting into getting them into a rhythm, like more than

1017
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: what the yards per carry allowed is or a fan

1018
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: see points against. You know, I think it's just yeah,

1019
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: I think it's just something we definitely have to look

1020
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: at going forward, franchise. What have you learned, if anything,

1021
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: from this year? The big thing I learned this year,

1022
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: And this is the first season that I drafted this way,

1023
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: but in pretty much all my leagues, I went wide

1024
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: receivers for the first like four or five rounds. And

1025
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: what when everyone's obsessed with getting that feature running back

1026
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: because there's only like five of them left in the

1027
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: league or whatever, the Adrian Peterson's and whatnot. One of

1028
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: them was Eddie lay One of them was Eddie Lacy. Yeah,

1029
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: like all the number of first round guys that busted

1030
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: or got hurt, like left Balan Jamal Charles, like all

1031
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: these wide receivers that you could scoop up in the

1032
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: first four rounds, Like well, Dez Brian and Calvin Johnson

1033
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: were busts, But you got Julio Jones, you got uh

1034
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Antonio Bryant, guys like that, And then I think I

1035
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: scooped like I don't know, Jordan Matthews is a bad example. Um,

1036
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Jeremy mat Cklin had a decent year. Odell Beckham was

1037
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 1: first or second round pick. But you can scoop these

1038
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: guys while everyone's obsessed with getting those running backs who

1039
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: are just gonna either get injured or get their job

1040
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: taken by someone else behind them at some point in

1041
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: the season, and you can scoop other running backs later

1042
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: in the draft, like I got Doug Martin I think

1043
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. Chris Ivory was lasting until the

1044
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: eighth or ninth round. And both of those dudes helped

1045
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: me get at least to the Fantasy playoffs with the

1046
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: talent I had at wide receiver that I got early

1047
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: while everyone else was getting these guys who ended up

1048
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: getting injured and they couldn't use later in the year.

1049
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: And I think going forward, especially the way this year

1050
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: played out, wide receivers are going to be the big

1051
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: thing in the first round next year. That was something

1052
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: that was funny. There was a lot of discussion, and

1053
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, the traditionalists and fantasy people, purists, A lot

1054
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: of people were pushing Gronk in the first round. A

1055
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: lot of people were pushing Brown, Antonio Brown higher up

1056
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: in the first round, Julio and stuff, and some of

1057
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: the football purists, you know, didn't want to do that.

1058
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: They wanted to get the running back in the first

1059
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: round and stuff. But I think I think you're right.

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00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I think zero zero RB has becoming kind of a

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00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: more you know, hipper trend the last couple of years,

1062
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: and it certainly has its faults, but it can work out.

1063
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, one of the man one

1064
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: of the adages is you you know, you can't when

1065
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: you're league in the first round, but you can lose

1066
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: it sort of thing. Or maybe I have that backwards.

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00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It's early. You can't when you're league

1068
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: in the first round, which is yeah, it's it's kind

1069
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: of silly. But I think what a lot of people

1070
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: might be shifting towards is trying to get players that

1071
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: have a bit of a safer production because running back

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00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: is so I mean, not to say wide receivers boultile,

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00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: but running back is crazy. Guys like Antonio Brown and

1074
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: Gronk will probably be bigger staples of the first round

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00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: this year than in years past. I would have to

1076
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: agree with them. Maybe Julio Jones too exactly, And like,

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00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: if you're going to wide receiver the first four or

1078
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: five rounds, you can get number one wise receivers on

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00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: several different teams, and you're scooping up all the all

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00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: that talent well other people. You know, you're you're keeping

1081
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: those guys from the rest of your league mates and

1082
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: you're getting them all on your team, especially like if

1083
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: you're in a deeper PPR league where you might play

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00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: with a couple of flexes like and and then even

1085
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: later like getting a guy like a Mari Cooper or

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00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: this year Allen Robinson who's not gonna last very long

1087
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: next year, you know, like guys like that, scoop them up,

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00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: scoop them up in the first couple of rounds, and

1089
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: then find your running backs later. That's what I learned.

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Speaker 1: My question to you is and and in general, like

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00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned, zero running back would becoming more hipper and

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00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: I definitely think more people will try to do it

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00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: as the running back position was such a dumpster fire

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00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: this year. Is that going to create like favorable situations

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00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: to people that are targeting running backs early, like, because

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00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: the whole idea behind zero running or zero running back

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00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: and you know, do the opposite or upside down drafting

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00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: is other people have called it um it was that

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00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: you were zigging when other people were zagging. So now

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Speaker 1: is it going to be kind of the other way

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00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: where you want to zag when other people zig, and

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Speaker 1: like you go running back heavy, you end up plucking

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Speaker 1: off all these values. That's the sort of thing because

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00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: that could create an interesting situation too by just being like,

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00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: that's what made like I said, that's what made zero

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00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: running back so popular, was you were being the contrarian.

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00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: You were getting these right receiver values. Now it might

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Speaker 1: start to shift the other way. What I mean, that's

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00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. But like, let's let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this for a second. Which running backs do you actually

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00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: feel comfortable about taking in the first round next year?

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00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: The first round? I mean, David Johnson. I don't know though,

1113
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: because like look like, look what happened to Jeremy Hill

1114
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: and C. J. Anderson And they were rookies last year.

1115
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: And Anderson wasn't a rookie last year, right now, I

1116
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: wasn't a rookie, but he was the second second year

1117
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: was his first shot. Yeah, and I feel like people

1118
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: will jump for guys like David Johnson, but when a

1119
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: guy's not proven like that, like like a guy like

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson or Leve Bell who've done it for years

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Speaker 1: and you know, several years in a row. I think

1122
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: people fall into that trap of getting the guy who

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Speaker 1: was hot last year and like, oh, he's gonna explode this.

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Speaker 1: But that upside with David Johnson is so huge. Like

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Speaker 1: if if Chris Johnson doesn't come back to that team,

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Speaker 1: I feel a lot better he'll be. He'll be like

1127
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: a twenty touch guy a game. Again. I mean like,

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Speaker 1: and I get it, I get the hesitation with um,

1129
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: but I I like to be the type of fantasy

1130
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: player that I don't like to let like draft busts

1131
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: of the of the past don't operate me, don't operate

1132
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: in fear. Yeah, Like, and there are reasons that Hill

1133
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: busted because just not because like he wasn't proven. Well

1134
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Speaker 1: I guess like that one kind of is a good

1135
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: example because he just stunk this year, Like he was

1136
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: just played back, looked like a different running back. Yeah,

1137
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: which is like that's hard to predict. But like for CJ.

1138
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: And again here I'm taping up for CJ again, but

1139
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: like like he got injured. It's starts like it just

1140
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: from the start, I mean in training camp and all

1141
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: that he was the guy. In preseason, he was the guy,

1142
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and it just through everything.

1143
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Off course, and certainly that could happen to David Johnson,

1144
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: but that could happen to any running back. I mean,

1145
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: it might be a little crazy to say he's a

1146
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: first round pick, but like I mean, this, this last

1147
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: stretch has sold me. I mean he's been incredible. Yeah,

1148
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: and I mean I like, I liked him coming into

1149
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: this year. I held him in in like two leagues,

1150
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: I think, so, I don't know. And in that offense too,

1151
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's the big thing. Denver's offense fell apart,

1152
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's offense became less run heavy. Like this, this is

1153
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: is one of the best offenses in the league. And

1154
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I think that Carson Palmer and all those guys they're

1155
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna Floyd is the only one that might not be

1156
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: back next year. But either way, it's still gonna be

1157
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: one of the league's best offenses. And having the running

1158
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: back attached to that is that's pretty tempting. I don't know.

1159
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: But but other guys too, Levian bell Is, I think

1160
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: we'll still go in the first round. The injury early

1161
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: Adan Peterson, Adrian Peterson will go on the first round.

1162
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: At least you think DeVonta Freeman is a first round guy.

1163
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch him. Not a chance, not

1164
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. I mean that's again we just talked

1165
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: about volume, like that's really what's been keeping him afloat lately.

1166
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: And that's a huge question mark. Is I mean Tevin

1167
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Coleman has not looked as good, but this regime invested

1168
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: what the third round pick in him last year, so

1169
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: they try to get him more involved. Freeman's gonna be

1170
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: entering Is Freeman entering a contract year next year? I

1171
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: think so? I think so. I think, oh no, this

1172
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: is this was only his second year, right, yeah, this

1173
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: was the second year, so he'll be he's one away

1174
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: from a contract year. But I mean other guys like

1175
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Matt Forte is probably gonna be on a new team. Uh,

1176
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Foster's coming back from yet another injury. He's getting

1177
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: up there in age two. Doug Martin, depending on his situation,

1178
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: he's a free agent too. He might go to another

1179
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: he might go to another team. Lamar Miller is going

1180
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: to be a free agent. I mean, if we look

1181
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: at like on the season, the top running backs Goes Freeman, Peterson, d'angela, Williams,

1182
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: Doug Martin, Todd Gurley, Lamar Miller, David Johnson, and Chris Ivory.

1183
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: What does it put me at eight? Latavius Murray, Danny

1184
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Woodhead are your top ten scorters? That's so gross. But

1185
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean guys that got injured. Mark Ingram got injured,

1186
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's on I R. We already mentioned we left

1187
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: bell Um. Basically Williams is Lean bell. Yeah, Sean McCoy

1188
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: might be like a late first rounder. We'll go that far.

1189
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: He was getting hurt every which way this year. Um,

1190
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: he's in there. Jamal Charles, Jamal Charles would be the

1191
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: only other one I might scoot, I might scoop for

1192
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: in the first round. But he's coming off another big injury,

1193
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: so I might feel better about waiting a little bit

1194
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: on him. Isn't interest that the Chiefs kind of like

1195
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: got better when Jamal Charles insane? It's insane. I like

1196
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder if I don't know no, because that

1197
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: kind of goes against my theory of just never mind

1198
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: the same. The same thing kind of happened with the

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00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks when Lynch went out. They kind of changed their

1200
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: offense and yeah, they got a healthier, more explusive runner

1201
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: in there. So yeah, if Thomas Brawls hadn't gotten hurt

1202
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: and uh, he had kept on a tour to pace

1203
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: and because I don't think Lynch is going to be

1204
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: back there next year, now, he would have been a

1205
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: guy that people were thinking about in the first round too.

1206
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: He'll be a guy also, a sick dynasty guy I

1207
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: just have stashed. I'm so mad I let him go

1208
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: in our league. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I had him

1209
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 1: in the preseason and I was like, this is gonna

1210
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: be great. And then like when they didn't they kept her,

1211
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: was like, I need some room on the roster. I

1212
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: should have held on to him. Is my mistake. And

1213
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: there would probably be some rookies too, Like a rookie

1214
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: won't be a first round pick. But just when you're

1215
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: talking about people that um that go through, they come

1216
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: through the draft and ended up in pretty good spots.

1217
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott has already declared from the draft, Ohio State

1218
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: running back. It's gonna be he's probably gonna be pushed

1219
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: for a first round pick. There are some other rookies

1220
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: that could come in, Uh, do we know if like

1221
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: Chubbs coming yet or is he too? You don't know

1222
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: he had that he had the injury, right, I don't think.

1223
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: And Henry should be coming in. And McCaffrey's going to

1224
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: be interesting depending on where he lands. I mean, he

1225
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. It's not he's not under class he's an underclassman.

1226
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Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, all right, Well, anyways, that's for a

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Speaker 1: different podcast once everybody declares, but let's Daily Dap and

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Speaker 1: get out of here. He desitely depths depths. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's Daily DAPs time, a segment where we give depths,

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Speaker 1: not exactly on a daily basis, but two things in

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Speaker 1: pop culture, the world, society, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: At we have liked this week. So who wants to

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Speaker 1: go first? Who's got one? I got one? All right?

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Speaker 1: Franchise the holiday season. A lot of people travel. I

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Speaker 1: just want to give adapts to all the people that

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Speaker 1: was my dab from like a week ago, wasn't ye?

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Speaker 1: I guess I didn't listen to that, but I'm gonna reiterate.

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Speaker 1: It's still a good one. Sure, A lot of people

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Speaker 1: good go to one to dap harmon. What are you

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Speaker 1: dap in this this week? Yeah, I'm dapping a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine who's going to be in town today. Actually,

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Speaker 1: after I do this podcast and go to go to

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Speaker 1: because this is my day off where I'm wearing the

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Speaker 1: headband in case anybody wanted to know. Um, So after this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go work out and they meet up

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Speaker 1: of the first people that ever gave me a shot

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Speaker 1: as a writer. Um, when I first started back in

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Speaker 1: the fall of two thousand and thirteen. He found me

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Speaker 1: not in the game anymore, um, he or I think

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Speaker 1: you're coming you might be coming back, which is great.

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Speaker 1: If you should follow him on Twitter at two QB

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Speaker 1: F f B. Great mentor to me and one of

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Speaker 1: him my daily DAP. I'm really looking forward to actually

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Speaker 1: meeting him in person for the first time. To nice um. Alright,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give a daily DAP to Tom Matt Seranis.

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Speaker 1: He is the senior editor for sign now. Ah. He's

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Speaker 1: a good follow on Twitter, but he, like a week

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Speaker 1: or so ago, right before Christmas Head posted just a

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Speaker 1: Twitter image. I'm terrible at finding new music. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys know what I listened to on Spotify. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's kind of embarrassing. I don't listen to them on Spotify.

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Speaker 1: I own I do own three Hoopa Staying albums, and

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Speaker 1: I did buy them of Sound Mind and able Body

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Speaker 1: when I was younger and have not gotten rid of him.

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Speaker 1: That's podcast alight. Anyways, Uh, Tom had posted his top

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Speaker 1: fifty albums of the year, and it's got some some

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Speaker 1: different things I haven't listened to yet. So there were

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Speaker 1: a couple that I listened to yesterday on Spotify. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The album Joy Departed from Sorority Noise was a pretty

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Speaker 1: good listen. It was in his top five, and then, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see which one was it. It was the world

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful place and I'm no longer afraid to die.

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Speaker 1: Had to help him harmlessness. So those were two good

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Speaker 1: ones that I listened to. You can find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at the Man's m A N T z IF

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Speaker 1: and you can scroll back through his timeline to find

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Speaker 1: that list. But it's a pretty solid list. And uh,

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Speaker 1: as somebody who has trouble finding music aside from things

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Speaker 1: that franchise or others, tell me, it was a good

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Speaker 1: place for me to start trying to find some new

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Speaker 1: people who listen to in so daily adapt to Tom

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Speaker 1: Mann Serena's apologize if I butchered your name on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but that should do it for us. Here on the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast, interesting one with just the youngsters here

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Speaker 1: but harp, Pet Harmon and Matt Franciscovic. Wait, we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week. Happy New Year. What's up everybody? DJ

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Speaker 1: Bucky here with Moved the Sticks Bucky tell everybody what's

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Speaker 1: coming up on this week's episode. We gonna take a

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Speaker 1: look at some of the contenders and see if we're

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Speaker 1: confident or concerned as they head down the stretch, also

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Aaron Rodgers, and finally, coach Bill

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Speaker 1: It calls in. We discussed some of the coaches on

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Speaker 1: the hot seat a lot of ground to cover on

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Speaker 1: this week's Moved to Stick. Check it out NFL dot com,

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Speaker 1: Slash podcast, or iTunes, and why not check out the

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Speaker 1: video on YouTube.