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Speaker 3: And that's like me saying to my son EJ.

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Speaker 2: bigger than that, and then understanding household incomes and how

444
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Speaker 2: to get those expenditures out to these retailers. That you

445
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: want to bring to a location, all of the different

446
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: mixes of real estate, whether it's residential, commercial, office, retail,

447
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: distribution centers, you name it. It's trying to understand it

448
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: all from the top to bottom.

449
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Speaker 3: Even in the land.

450
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Speaker 1: Plays you're singing mess sir, it's kind of hard for

451
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Speaker 1: me to get away from that. When you start talking

452
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Speaker 1: about commercial real estate has taken a nose to pretty bad.

453
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Speaker 1: How do you think those buildings are going to be

454
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Speaker 1: repurposed or are the banks going to eat the bullet

455
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Speaker 1: on that.

456
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Speaker 2: The banks are never gonna eat the bullet. They're gonna

457
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Speaker 2: pass the buck, Yeah, to a special service or someone

458
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: like that. But some of those buildings, depends on the

459
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: four plates and the wall columns and everything else, could

460
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Speaker 2: be repurposed for something and high condominiums or high rise

461
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: multifamily some kind of way, shape or form. However, some

462
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Speaker 2: of them might not be able to be repurposed that way.

463
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Speaker 2: Some of them could turn into perhaps even large data

464
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Speaker 2: centers if you get It's hard to say, because we're

465
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Speaker 2: talking in general. Some buildings might fit better than others,

466
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Speaker 2: and that's part of the due diligence phase of understanding

467
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Speaker 2: what type of asset that you have and what that

468
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Speaker 2: asset has the potential to be versus what it once was.

469
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Speaker 1: One of our problems with data centers is not just space,

470
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Speaker 1: but finding enough electrical power correct to be able to

471
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Speaker 1: run it. If we don't find some other type of

472
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Speaker 1: power to be able to run it that is safe,

473
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Speaker 1: that is healthy, and that doesn't infiltrate the lives of

474
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Speaker 1: the people who live around it, right, we're gonna have

475
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Speaker 1: a situation. But one thing is definitely sure. We are

476
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Speaker 1: collecting more data than we have space to put it,

477
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Speaker 1: no doubt, and we've got to do something different about it.

478
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Speaker 1: Several weeks ago, a comment was made about a hundred

479
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars one hundred million dollars wasn't very much money. Okay,

480
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw you under the bus, but but

481
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Speaker 1: but what do you think about.

482
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Speaker 2: That depends on the usage of the hundred million dollars

483
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Speaker 2: and how you break a hundred million dollars down. First

484
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Speaker 2: and foremost, like I said, if you can put a

485
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars into a trust right today and save

486
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Speaker 2: and find ways to offset that forty million dollar check

487
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Speaker 2: that you got to write to the government, which is

488
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Speaker 2: most welcome.

489
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Speaker 3: People are trying to figure that.

490
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Speaker 2: Out to do, and most of them do that through

491
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: assets that they're acquiring, whether and or investing into energy

492
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: sectors so they can get tax credits and everything else

493
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: to offset those kind of tax tax liabilities. If you

494
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: can figure that piece out and manage just that forty,

495
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Speaker 2: you survive on the other sixty.

496
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Speaker 3: I think.

497
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 2: I think having a hundred million dollars and understanding what

498
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: you need to live off of versus what you really

499
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: need to invest in or keep's that's really.

500
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Speaker 1: I think an important idea is to leverage the money

501
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: rather than spend the money. There it is when you

502
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: leverage the money and borrow against the money, the money

503
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: is still there and you get to use the money

504
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: and you can't charge income tax on debt. Yes, So

505
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Speaker 1: that's one way of looking at it.

506
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Speaker 3: That is probably the right way to look at it.

507
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Speaker 1: What's what's the best deal you ever did?

508
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: Best deal I ever did is yet to come, because

509
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: I ever think every deal could be a better deal.

510
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: The best deals that you do are the ones that

511
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: you clothed, not the ones that you keep.

512
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Speaker 3: So let's reverse it.

513
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Speaker 1: What's the worst deal you ever did?

514
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: The worst deal I ever did I did not move.

515
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: In a dotcom era.

516
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Speaker 2: In a timely fashion, And I missed out on an

517
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: opportunity to be a part of a company that ended

518
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Speaker 2: up selling for multi billions of dollars.

519
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: And you were sick, sick, extremely sick.

520
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Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to be the producer of The Butler,

521
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and I turned it down. And then when they made

522
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Speaker 1: the movie and I saw the cast and I saw,

523
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Speaker 1: well it did. I couldn't only watch the movie. You know,

524
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Speaker 1: what were you thout? Yeah, yeah, but I think you

525
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: can't be afraid to fail. You have to be have

526
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: the spirit of adventure and be able to do new

527
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: things and exciting things and get it wrong sometimes.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I've gotten things wrong, really have. And

529
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Speaker 3: so but having.

530
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Speaker 2: The fortitude to try and get back up on your feet,

531
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Speaker 2: even though when things are telling you this can happen again.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

533
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Speaker 2: You know, you have that that evil one on one side,

534
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: and you have the blessed them. Yeah, and even one

535
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Speaker 2: want to remind you the things that did not go

536
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: so well, and the blessed one say.

537
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Speaker 3: You can, you can, you can.

538
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: And so it's those things trying to quiet that noise

539
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: and really trying to go back to the fundamentals of

540
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Speaker 2: analyzing things appropriately.

541
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Speaker 1: You know, a few weeks ago, I had the privilege

542
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Speaker 1: of interviewing Cam dude, right, and uh, not every athlete

543
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: finds life beyond the gold posts, but in fact most don't. Okay,

544
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: most end up broke. Okay, made a lot of money,

545
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money, bought a lot of depreciating assets,

546
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: go broke. What is it that you all know that

547
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: they didn't, that you are able to switch and make

548
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Speaker 1: that income be more long lasting.

549
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Speaker 2: I think the ones that you see are very good

550
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: at communicating and articulating the game itself, and therefore they

551
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: turn that into a career and out that becomes offshoots

552
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: of other things, whether it's commercialization or a number of

553
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: different relationships that they that gravitate to the visibility of

554
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: who that person is.

555
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Speaker 3: I think.

556
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: Then there's others that venture off into worlds like the rest. Yeah, yeah,

557
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: like myself, that do things like that. Then you have

558
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: folks that need not have the courage to step out there,

559
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: even though they were great athletes, but they stepping into

560
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: the unknown could be could be terrifying, and may not

561
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: feel have the confidence of being able to ask the

562
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: right questions or feel like they belong in a certain room.

563
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of those are things that

564
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: can hold us back as well.

565
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Speaker 1: Were you scared when you went dancing with the Stars.

566
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Speaker 3: I wasn't scared, but I was nervous.

567
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: I was nervous, and I was nervous because I was

568
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: so busy thinking about what are people going to say

569
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: about me?

570
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: I mean, what if I don't what if.

571
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: I look crazy up here trying to dance, even though

572
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: I think I got some rhythm and I got some

573
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: groove and everything else.

574
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: But what are people going to say?

575
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: And so when I did my very first chat yow

576
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: and the people were excited about seeing me dance, and

577
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, maybe I could do this.

578
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: Then week two I came back and did a quick step.

579
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Speaker 2: And it was it was one of those where you're

580
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: in hold and polls and I had to learn these

581
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: things body posture and everything else, and moving around and

582
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: gliding on the floor felt good.

583
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: It felt I felt like fredis Stare.

584
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: For some reason, I just felt like I'm doing something

585
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: that I've never done before and it doesn't look bad.

586
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: And from that point on, I went to the tango

587
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: and then the tango, I scored eighteen and my friend

588
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Jared Springer scored at twenty one.

589
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: I was mad.

590
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: That's when the competitive side of me came out, and

591
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, I can't be focusing on I

592
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: can't be focusing on real estate and dancing for four hours.

593
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: I got to put in eight hours now because I'm

594
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: not gonna get beat by this guy ever again.

595
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: So that competitive part came out.

596
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: And when that came out, I had to talk to

597
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: my partner about breaking these dance routines down in the

598
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: thirty second intervals and just like I did a football

599
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: practice so I can learn it quickly.

600
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: And once I started learning it quickly and it wasn't.

601
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: In my head and I knew what to do, it

602
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: was in my body, and that was just moving around

603
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: and I was having fun.

604
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: That's when it became really really fun me.

605
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: One of the things that's really fascinating about talking to

606
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: you now is that you're a bit of a polymath.

607
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: You like learning new and very different things. I think

608
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with the diversity of things.

609
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean everything from real estate to construction, to concrete

610
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: to dancing with the stars. I mean the very few

611
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: people have that many different things on their resume. Is

612
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: there a common thread between all those different things or

613
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: are they all unique unto themselves.

614
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: I think surely there is a common thread.

615
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: When I talk about Dance with the Stars and how

616
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: I was able to take football practice and break down

617
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 2: the room team in the thirty second intervals, that's how

618
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: we did football, because once you get bring it all together,

619
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: the whole minute routine becomes like a team period. In football,

620
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 2: the thirty second intervals become almost like individual periods, whether

621
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: it's individual with my running back group or one on

622
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: one drill with the running backs and the wide receivers

623
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: and the linebackers and the cornerbacks, or if it's like

624
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: seven or seven period offense versus seven or seven defense

625
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: and you run in plays and everything else, it's like repetition, repetition, repetition.

626
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: That's how I saw Dance with the Stars. The work

627
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: was fundamental, the basics you got. It doesn't take a

628
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: whole lot to put effort into something, so you just

629
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: so that work became basic for me. And when it

630
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: comes down to business or learning something new, it's like

631
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: learning it. What is it that I need to know?

632
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: What is it that I need to learn? What's the

633
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: business act aspect of this? What's the business processes behind this?

634
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: Can I learn these things?

635
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: Yes? You can? And then what's the commonality? Performance?

636
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Consistency making money be the last one. So if I perform,

637
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: and if I'm consistent and I perform at a.

638
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: Level that should yield some type of return.

639
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Which I would add another one that say discipline.

640
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: Discipline is the fundamental of all yeah, right, right, Because

641
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: if you're discipline in this area and not disipling there,

642
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: you're not disbelamed at all.

643
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Right.

644
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: But as a man once said, the way you do

645
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: something is the way that you do everything. And if

646
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: you do it the right way and willing to sit

647
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: back and learn and analyze what you did to write

648
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: what you did not do so right, that's football, right,

649
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: Going to a game, you perform, you win, You come

650
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: back and look at tapes, you figure out what you

651
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: did right, what you did not do so, and you

652
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: make those corrections. You go to practice the next day,

653
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: you try to work on it, and then the next

654
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: week you try to get better and better.

655
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: And that's true of it, investments, that's true. That's true realists,

656
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: it's true of anything.

657
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 3: It's true of anything.

658
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: So our focus needs to be needs to be more

659
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: focused less on trying to give our children's skills, but give.

660
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Them character, give them character, give them let them see

661
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: the work that you put in. Let them see how

662
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: difficult it is. Let them feel some of your scars

663
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: so they understand that they're gonna get their head busted

664
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: sooner or.

665
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: Later about something right right.

666
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: So everything is never like my son, my son e

667
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 2: j H. A couple of weeks ago. Last week, as

668
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: we was talking, he said, okay, I said yeah. I

669
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: said why Yeah, He said, because you seem like you

670
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: was a little stress over the Christmas house day. I

671
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: was said no, I was fine, I said no, but

672
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: you was a little quiet and everything. I said, son,

673
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: I was relaxing because I had put so much energy

674
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: into everything else that I've done, and it was a

675
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: time for me not to travel, the time for me

676
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: not to do nothing.

677
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: I was just straight chilled.

678
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: So I was quiet, allowing y'all ll y'all selves and

679
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: let y'all do whatever y'all wanted to do.

680
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: But I was relaxing. But it's funny that he was

681
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: able to pick up on something.

682
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: So kids are very astute and very aware of what

683
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: could be going on. My daughter Reagan would come in

684
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: at times and say, Hey, how you doing.

685
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: What's going on?

686
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we would sit down and have conversations. Especially

687
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: they haven't seen me for four or five days. You're right,

688
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: because I'm on the road for four or five days.

689
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Then it's just a different thing.

690
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: And so.

691
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, just being able to manage all these things and

692
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: be able to keep yourself sane in the middle.

693
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: Of moone, Now that's the challenge, challenge, the true challenge

694
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: really to keep yourself saying in the middle of it,

695
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: because you've got all these balls you're juggling at the same.

696
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Time, trusting people that you're working with to handle some

697
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 2: of these things.

698
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: When when you're not there.

699
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: What would you tell your younger self?

700
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: Simplify things.

701
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: By doing what?

702
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: By not trying to create a vertically integrated solutions that

703
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: some people don't even want?

704
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: Right right, right? Right? Wow? When you when you talk

705
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: to your son about the future and about his future,

706
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: what are those kind of languages? Let let me in

707
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: on that little.

708
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: He and his mom and I was talking the other

709
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: day because he's going through this period where he has

710
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: to get prepared for the NFL driver, right, So he

711
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: was thinking, and I'm trying to help him to learn

712
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: how to trust his own instincts and his own decision.

713
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: That's what we're trying to do with each and every

714
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: one of my kids. And I think that's what all

715
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: parents want them to do, to grow up and be

716
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: become independent. But we were having a conversation and he

717
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: was telling me what his thought process was about preparing

718
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: for this upcoming draft.

719
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Okay, that sounds cool. If this is

720
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: what you.

721
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Want to do, let's go ahead and do that. I'll

722
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: support you. We're gonna support you. Blah blah blah. So

723
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: he understand and and and so we were talking and

724
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: I was asking certain questions and I was getting more information.

725
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 2: And as I was gathering information, I was like, well,

726
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: it might be best if you just come come to Dallas.

727
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: And he was and that's when it threw him for.

728
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: A loop because he already had a game plan and

729
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 2: I interrupted his game plan. So then there's a level

730
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: of uncertainty. But in the conversation, the beautiful thing happened.

731
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: He he was like, yeah, Dad, I was I.

732
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: Was cool until you said X.

733
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: Why did you say X then, because I'm trying to

734
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: be a dad and not run his.

735
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: Life, and that's on me.

736
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: But he said something so profound to us. He said,

737
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: I need y'all. He said, I need y'all. I know

738
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: y'all expect me to be a grown person, and I

739
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: am gonna be a grown person, but I need y'all.

740
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: I need y'all sounding I need y'all as my sounding board.

741
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: In other words, I need y'all to be my board

742
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: of advisors.

743
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: What's the difference between your father in style and your

744
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: father's style?

745
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: My dad and I would have never had that conversation.

746
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The conversation probably have been more like when I scored

747
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: a touchdown and I did something in his all son,

748
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: the great ones don't.

749
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: Do things like that. They had like they've been there before.

750
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Those kinds of conversations, or it would have been something

751
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: like it wouldn't have been as in.

752
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Depth or as loving as that was. That back there

753
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: was a spirit of hey, you the.

754
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Goat, right right?

755
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, who else could tell me what to do right? Right?

756
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: That's all you? My dad too.

757
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I value y'all opinion, your your my mom

758
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: and your opinion. So both of us are on the

759
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: phone having this conversation with our oldest son, and that

760
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: would that would have been the way we would have

761
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: been on the phone with Jasmine, would have been on

762
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: the phone with Reagan.

763
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: And Skylar and even Elijah too.

764
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: So I think our parenting style is bringing giving our

765
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: kids the room to come and sit down and have

766
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: a conversation.

767
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: I noticed it. The same thing is happening to a

768
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: degree with Dion. What do you think what are the

769
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: similarities and differences between how he handled Shade and Shamura

770
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: and how you are handling your son.

771
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: I think we parent to what we did not have.

772
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: I think we bring what we had, the good things

773
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: that what we had, and the things that we did

774
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: not have. We try to pair those things together. The

775
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: one thing we know we can never give our kids

776
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: is our upbringing. That that rough part of it, right, right,

777
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: because they growing up on third base, right, they're growing

778
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: up in the ten thousand square foot home. They ain't

779
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: powder drinking powdered milk or even government cheese.

780
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: They even craft. They got y'all cruit of it.

781
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: Boy, they got the good stuff. However, but you want

782
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: them to have that fight, You want them to have

783
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: that fire. You want them to have that drive and

784
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: so and we want them to have the space and

785
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: the room to be able to pick up the phone

786
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: and call us and have a conversation. And I think

787
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: that is more gratifying than almost anything that he's done

788
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: in sports or education wise, because that relationship.

789
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: Is important.

790
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: When you I think you spent some time with Michael Jordan,

791
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: When you spent time with Michael Jordan, what was the

792
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: most meaningful thing that came out of that?

793
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: You know, I think he said to me, cause I

794
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: asked the question once, I said, Mike, cause I I

795
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: called him one day and I said, I would like

796
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: to sit down and talk business with you. He said, Okay,

797
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: meet me in San Francisco and such and such a day.

798
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: He said, I'm going to be staying here at this hotel.

799
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: Just meet me there and we could sit down and

800
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: have a conversation. So I flew San fran got to

801
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: the hotel, checked into the hotel myself.

802
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: We linked up on the thirteenth floor.

803
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: We're sitting down having a conversation like you and I

804
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: are talking, and we're talking about business, We're talking about life.

805
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: We talked about transitioning from the game and everything else.

806
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: And how to manage start them, how to grow brands,

807
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: and we're talking about.

808
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff.

809
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: And then afterwards, I said, Mike, how come many of

810
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: us don't get together and do things like this?

811
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: He said, well, e look what you did.

812
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: You picked up the phone and you called me and

813
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: you wanted my advice on something. Most people don't pick

814
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: up the phone and call. Most people don't ask. And

815
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: so why would I pour into someone that's never gone

816
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: as if I pour into him innocently, it's gonna fly

817
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: over the head because they're not interested. The ground is

818
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: not fertile enough. Here you have fertile ground. You're seeking

819
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: wisdom and understanding the knowledge, and you feel like I'm

820
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: a person that can help you.

821
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: Say got it. He ain't gonna waste his time on

822
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: somebody that don't want information.

823
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: And I think Kobe reached out and that's why Kobe

824
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: got what he was able to get. If people that

825
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: MJ feel comfortable with or fight for that, I think

826
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: he'll give it to him.

827
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

828
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: And I think that's the way anything is in life.

829
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: You have to be willing to ask questions of the

830
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: people that you like, and.

831
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: If if it's feasible, it's gonna happen. Find there it

832
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: is knocking the door. Shall you have to be the aggressor.

833
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: You can't sit back and wish and wait on the

834
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: door to hope it. On the other hand, he can't

835
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: be so something the police come get Okay, I don't

836
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: want to start that. We have to find that happy medium,

837
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: I think, and work your way into that circle, into

838
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: that environment, and then when the chance is right, and

839
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: I think some people don't have the gift to reading

840
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: the room right to know when is it's appropriate to

841
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: say something and when they're going to drag you away

842
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: and think.

843
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: You imagine was the same way? Yeah, the same way, really, yes.

844
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: And that's when he helped me, him and Roger sterback

845
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: of the two that ushered me into the real estate business.

846
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: And and and I leaned on magic for information to

847
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: help me understand what to ask for when I'm negotiating

848
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: a joint venture.

849
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: And that helped out tremendously.

850
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: I bet, because if you don't do that right, you

851
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: will be sorry.

852
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

853
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: When I met you, you and Michael and and uh

854
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: and and Dion, we're kind of like the rat pack, Okay,

855
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: and O marsh at the time, you all have managed

856
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: to keep a relationship down through the years, so you

857
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: don't see that so much today where there are long

858
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: lasting relationships between people who are in the same industries.

859
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: What do you attribute that to.

860
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: I attribute that to football, which was the most commonalty

861
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: that we all had. That's the one thing we had

862
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: in commos football. We knew we had to train, So

863
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: every one of us trained, either we trained together or

864
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: trained with each other some kind of way, shape or form.

865
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: And we were around each other ninety five most of

866
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: the time.

867
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: And when you're training, you're competing against each other, and

868
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: when you're going into practices, you're competing against each other.

869
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: And I think we forge a mutual respect and love.

870
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: Bond for each other because of what we did and

871
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: how we treated one another. No one cared about who

872
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: got the glory. We cared about the win, and we

873
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: cared about obviously individual performance. We care about how we perform.

874
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, my performance is

875
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: gonna speak for yourself. His performance is going to speak

876
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: for yourself. And he knows that he can count on

877
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: me showing up every day because he sees how I work.

878
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: He believes in how I work, and I see how

879
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: he works, and I believe in how he works, he

880
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: sees how I performed and how consistent I am. I

881
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: think when you are consistently doing the right things, then

882
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: people can trust you, and when you're consistently doing the wrong.

883
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: Things, then people can't tress you.

884
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: It is what it is, and so which side of

885
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: leeds you do you want to be on? And for me,

886
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: performance is one of those key key measurables.

887
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: So it sounds like to me that part of the

888
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: bond that bind you all together the mutual respect.

889
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: Mutual respect all day because in football you have to

890
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: earn the respect of your peers.

891
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: It's not given.

892
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Yes, somebody may appoint you as the team you may

893
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: not even earned it, but they may have appointed you that.

894
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: But everyone else respected.

895
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: Charles Haley, they respect the Dion Sander, they respect Troyman,

896
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: they respect of Michael Irbans. And here's why, Michael is

897
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: one of the hardest workers that I've been around. Troy

898
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: was one of the hardest workers as well, and was

899
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: very very cerebral about what he did and was not

900
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: and wanted to earn the right to go.

901
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: What do you mean best cerebral? But I mean it's

902
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: a physical game. Yeah, and you're saying he's very cerebral

903
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: about it, explained.

904
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: Meaning physically he trained, We saw him working out, We

905
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: saw him jogging every day, lifting weights and everything that is, running,

906
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: conditioning and and passing the conditioning test.

907
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: But wanting to be the very best.

908
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: Thats cerebral understanding what's going on in the football field,

909
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: not just being a robot today.

910
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 3: He didn't.

911
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: He never had to look to the sideline to change

912
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: a play. He there was times where they were either

913
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: called dual plays or he would just come down maybe

914
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: audible out of a play.

915
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: They gave him the ability to audible out of play because.

916
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: He understood the offensive scheme and understood the offense and what.

917
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: Was happening on the defensive side of the ball.

918
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: So not only did he put in those hours of

919
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: studying tape, he put in those hours of understanding the

920
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: offensive system and how to manipulate it, how to make

921
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: it work, and how to put it take us out

922
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: of a bad.

923
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 3: Play and put us into a good, better play.

924
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: That's that right, There is a whole nother level football

925
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: because he's playing chess against the defensive coordinator as we're

926
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: playing chess.

927
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's really up here.

928
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 3: Football is ninety percent mental, ten percent physical.

929
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say, what did you think of

930
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the moods that Shador Sanders made And what would you

931
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: say if you had the chance to talk to him

932
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: that you probably have.

933
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: The moves, Yeah, the moves such as uh.

934
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: Him being accepted for the NFL or not being accepted

935
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: for the NFL and all the press.

936
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: Who plots, Oh that was coming. I saw that coming

937
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: a mile away, all because of who he was, who

938
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: who he is, and who's the who he's the son of, right,

939
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: and what he was able to accomplish out of Jackson.

940
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: When he was at Jackson, people were like, Oh, that's

941
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: Jackson State, blah blah blah.

942
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: Then they go to Colorado, Oh that's Colorado.

943
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: But yet he's throwing and he's doing the things that

944
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: that people didn't inspect him to do.

945
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: And then he then on draft Day.

946
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: I was completely disappointed in terms of how the NFL

947
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: treated him. I'm gonna say the NFL, he was the

948
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: biggest name coming out of the draft. There was no

949
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: other kid in the draft that was more marketable than

950
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 2: that young man. Okay, and in doing that, I think

951
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: it sent the Rome message because there's no way he

952
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: should have felled to the fifth round.

953
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: No way, no way.

954
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: I know that this kid was trained by an NFL

955
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: quarterback himself and meaning Jeff Blake. I know that this

956
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: kid understands defense because his dad had to help him

957
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: understand what was happening and understanding body languages and everything else.

958
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: So he has a level of calmness and humility within him.

959
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: He just plays with a chip on his shoulder. Some

960
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: people would have got pat on the back. Baker Mayfield

961
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: was one of those would have got a pat on

962
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: his back for his brashness. Johnny Manziel is another one

963
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: that got pat on the back for his brashness.

964
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Tradeorge just did the West thing.

965
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: Why do some people get a pat on the back

966
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: and some people don't. You see one guy and it's

967
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: a pat on the back. You see one guy and

968
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: you say he's.

969
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: Cantankerous because it's the language that people want to use

970
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: when they don't understand the individual of color.

971
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: As we know through history. You go through history, you

972
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: look at history yourself.

973
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: Everything that's described as a person that has a personality

974
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: of this too, there's always a negative thing tied to them.

975
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: A person there on the other side, Oh, he's a competitor.

976
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: They use different words, and it comes out of the

977
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: booth the same way. It comes out of the booth

978
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: the same way where they're analyzing games.

979
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: Is it worse, Obviously you're saying it's worse for a

980
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: person of another race. But is it hard to be

981
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: you your son? Yeah?

982
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: I can imagine it can be hard to be our son. Well,

983
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 3: why should it be hard if the talent is there.

984
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: The talent is there, but why is it?

985
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: Why should it be hard? I mean, I know why

986
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be. Why is it?

987
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: I think it's the gatekeepers keeping the gate closed and

988
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: trying to send a message throughout to somebody.

989
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: I don't know who they're trying to send it to.

990
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the whole culture, maybe it's just maybe it's

991
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: just him or whatever. Maybe you know, because if you

992
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: don't understand the thing, then you're gonna talk about it

993
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: in the most negative light because we don't understand it.

994
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, when we talk about bitcoin and blockchain and

995
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: everything else, first thing we throw against it, it's a.

996
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 3: Positive scheme because we didn't understand it.

997
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: Now it's moving to a level of digital currency around

998
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: the globe.

999
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: How do you prepare your son for the price of

1000
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: being your son who.

1001
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: By trying to make sure that he understands that he

1002
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: has to earn his own own way and become his

1003
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: own man in that way.

1004
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: I think that's one reason why his name on the

1005
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: back of jersey is e J. Smith, not EMMITTT.

1006
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: Smith.

1007
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I was at his freshman football game in high school

1008
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: and they planned the Soto. They called my son out

1009
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: his whole government, and I'm like, and I got sick

1010
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: and tired of hearing it myself. So I went down

1011
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: and talked to the coach. I said, listen, coach, we

1012
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: called him EJ. I don't need to be hearing Emmitt

1013
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: Smith on the car. Don't need to hear that. And

1014
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: from that point on, it's just been e J.

1015
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: Smith.

1016
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: So did your son enjoy having his own identity ignowledge?

1017
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: I think he did. I think he did.

1018
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: You might have to ask him the challenges that he

1019
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: may face. But I have a son that truly wants

1020
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 2: to forge his own way like most kids do. He's

1021
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: no different and I think he's he's going to do that.

1022
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 2: He loves he loved to learn, and uh he studied

1023
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: technology left and right and right. Now he's just putting

1024
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: putting his head towards this this NFL draft and his

1025
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: comebound and he has to go, uh, his pro day

1026
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: that he has.

1027
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: To go through. I was there when you were inducted

1028
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, and I remember it vividly,

1029
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: a quin I think, wasn't that Yeah? And uh, the

1030
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: pride and the honor and your family being there, and

1031
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: and my wife and myself in there, and what what

1032
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: a very very big day it was. As a father,

1033
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: how does it feel to give that moment in the

1034
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: memory of bank of your children?

1035
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: It feels good because I didn't have kids to celebrate

1036
00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowls with, and so to have the experience is

1037
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: a winning dance with the stars. To have the experience

1038
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: of going into the Hall of Fame, and to have

1039
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: all of my kids there, even though Elijah, my youngest son,

1040
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: was in the stomach of his mom at the time, it.

1041
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: Was in the audience he exactly.

1042
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: And so to have them have that experience and probably

1043
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: not truly understand what it was at the time. But now,

1044
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: over time, even my youngest son is starting to get

1045
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: to the point of Okay, yeah, my dad is somewhat

1046
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: a big deal to some people.

1047
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: Right right, but exactly give that's the way it might

1048
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: do me. Sometimes. It's been thirty years since the Cowboys

1049
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: Hajuan the super Bowl. Yeah, it's been back in your

1050
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: day and when I first came to Dallas since say one,

1051
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: why do you think that is?

1052
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: Well, it could be a number of different things.

1053
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: I think when the league people say that the NFL

1054
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: is a copycat lead, what does that mean? That means

1055
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: you got a Lamar Jackson, you have adjusting fields, you

1056
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: have other running type quarterbacks. You even have Josh Allen

1057
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: and others that have the ability to run mobile quarterbacks.

1058
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is one of those, and so the league

1059
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: tried to find and adapt to those type of individuals

1060
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: that they can find to become a champion, because Patrick

1061
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: Mahomes has been a champion for over times. But you

1062
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: rarely find many Tom Brady's who are pocket quarterbacks. Dak

1063
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Prescott is a pocket quarterback, but he has the ability

1064
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: to scramble a little bit and get enough yards to

1065
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: get out of trouble. So when you have a copycat league,

1066
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: I think teams have the tendency or the propensity to

1067
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: try to adopt some of those philosophy. Patrick gonna throw

1068
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: the ball thirty five forty forty times, maybe forty five

1069
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: times a game that Presscot.

1070
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna try to make sure that Press got.

1071
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: Can throw the ball for thirty five forty five times

1072
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: a game, which I think is way too much for him.

1073
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys shifted from the philosophy that helped

1074
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: them become Super.

1075
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: Bowl champions, America's Team, America's team.

1076
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: You went from the philosophy and what you known to

1077
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: build this organization, and when you go away from that philosophy,

1078
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: you have a thirty year drought because there's no commitment

1079
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: to what really helped you build it. So once you

1080
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: get back to the fundamentals of who you are and

1081
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: what built the organization, you've made great decisions.

1082
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: In terms of draft picks. We've had had some talented teams.

1083
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Tony Romo had some talented individuals around him defensively, wise

1084
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: and offensively, but man, it never came together because there

1085
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: was no commitment to balance. I think balance was the

1086
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: reason why we were extremely successful in the nineties. Yes,

1087
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: you could say you never you don't have another mgment

1088
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: back there, but you had you have had great caliber

1089
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: running backs back there, what Ezekiel Elliott, whether it's DeMarco Murray,

1090
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: whether it's Phelix Jones, with all those guys and including

1091
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: the current running back, and what you saw last year

1092
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: was what balance would bring you when you got a

1093
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: George Picking and CD and you got a tight end

1094
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: that can blow up the middle. So you got players

1095
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: now that resemble something that we used to look like.

1096
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: Now the defense is not there, so now you got

1097
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: to upgrade the defense. If it's either one or the other,

1098
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: we need both or all three phases.

1099
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: Of the game in order for the Cowboys to get back.

1100
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: And the mindset from the organization, from the top down

1101
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: needs to be that way.

1102
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: So good players don't necessarily constitute a good team.

1103
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, because you got to have the right

1104
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: system for the for the good players, right if you

1105
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: can have good players but the wrong system, a system

1106
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: that showcases.

1107
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Who's fault is head.

1108
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: That's on ownership and the way that they look at

1109
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: at what they want.

1110
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: I know that our friend Denzel is a big fan

1111
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, win or lose, swim, you know, bad

1112
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: thirty years, good thirty years. He's there, he's loyal, recently,

1113
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: he was quoted to have allegedly said all good money

1114
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: ain't good money to Jerry Jones, What do you think

1115
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: he meant?

1116
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: That's a Domino terminology, all money and good money.

1117
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means all money that comes your or deals

1118
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that come your way, or decisions that you're making. The

1119
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: decision to try to build a Patrick Mahomes or turning

1120
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: your guy into a Patrick Mahomes or turn your guy

1121
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: into something different may not be the right decision.

1122
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1123
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: The balance or to throw the ball forty five fifty

1124
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: times a game may not be the right decision.

1125
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: Your guy is not that guy. Who is your guy?

1126
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: What is your guy capable of doing? And what's around him?

1127
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: And how can we support him? Is he efficient between

1128
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: thirty and thirty five or is he inefficient with interceptions

1129
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: and turnovers at forty five and fifty times a game?

1130
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: So how do we build that balance to keep him

1131
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: and keep everyone and keep the chains moving and keep

1132
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: drives going and we run the ball. Therefore, we have

1133
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: our first thurs thousand yard back this year for the

1134
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: first time in about a year or two, and we

1135
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: got Dac through for over four thousand yards this year.

1136
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: So that's a good thing.

1137
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: But we couldn't stop a coal in Alaska button neckd

1138
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. So if you

1139
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: can't do that, oh that's for not.

1140
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: You have been called the greatest running back of all time?

1141
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? Do you agree with you?

1142
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: You know, using the term great could be overemphasized because

1143
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: there's been so many great players that come through the

1144
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: game of football. When I look at what I've done,

1145
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: there's no debating over the yardage at all, but there's

1146
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: always gonna be debate debate on who's the greatest. Because

1147
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: Jim Brown during his era and of setting the foundation

1148
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: for Walter Payton and Gear.

1149
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: Sayers and others to come behind him.

1150
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: That foundation and what he went through and what he

1151
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: had to deal with during that era when people didn't

1152
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: want him on the football face, that was great all

1153
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: by itself because he's standing for justice and injustice and

1154
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: fighting for injustice and everything else. That opened up the

1155
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: door for others to follow. So there's greatness in that.

1156
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: There's greatness that should be recognized. Because he led the

1157
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: lead in Russian before someone else came behind him and

1158
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: broke it.

1159
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: He retired way too so.

1160
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: But that's why I look at him, and I look

1161
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: at Walt the Payton and what he was able to

1162
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: do because he was a man of my stature out

1163
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: of the Deltas of Mississippi. The way he trained, the

1164
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: way he worked in the has against him to do

1165
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: what he was able to do in thirteen years. He

1166
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: did it. And then I look at myself. I look

1167
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: at it from the standpoint of I'm gonna put them

1168
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: to ahead of me every day of the week because

1169
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: my love for them and what they did for the

1170
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: game supersedes anything that I've ever done, because anything that

1171
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: I've done is because they have paid to wait for

1172
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: that to happen, and I cannot just sit up there

1173
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: and say yes from a statistical standpoint.

1174
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: That's me.

1175
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: How does faith play a part in your life?

1176
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: Is a man?

1177
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: It is the foundation which I stand up on. My grandmother,

1178
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: whom I talked about earlier, who a should stay over

1179
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: her house to watch and take care of In the

1180
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: middle of the night, she gave me my first Bible

1181
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: verse Proverbs three five and six.

1182
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: Trusting the Lord all your heart, lean on to your

1183
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: own understanding, and all always acknowledge him. In these shall

1184
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: direk that path.

1185
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: When I look back and I talk about the village

1186
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: of people, I see what God has blessed me with

1187
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: angels on the planet to help steer me in the

1188
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: right direction. And I was humble enough to receive it

1189
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: and apply it. Charlie Egger I talked about blueprints. Dawaight Thomas,

1190
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: my high school head football coach. It's only dream until

1191
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: you write it down and then it becomes a goal.

1192
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: Never become satisfied with anything, because the day that you

1193
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 2: do to growing stops. I don't ever want to stop

1194
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: growing and continue to pursue knowledge. Jimmy Nichols, who taught

1195
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: me about taking care of the football.

1196
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: The football is.

1197
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: The most important thing on the field, not you. You gotta

1198
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: protect the football. If you cannot protect the football, you

1199
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: cannot play for me or any coach in America. Because

1200
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: if you continue to form in the football, I'm not

1201
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 2: gonna put you on the field. And if I don't

1202
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: put you on the field, nobody in America is gonna

1203
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: see you play. If no one in America see you play,

1204
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: where you're gonna go. You're not gonna go to college

1205
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: because it ain't nobody gonna see you, You're gonna stay

1206
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: here in the scola.

1207
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: Well, what's here for you?

1208
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: All those kind of things make you think about what

1209
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: it is that you want to accomplish. But having that

1210
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: dream and vision here's our faith, really really tempted me.

1211
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm a singing high school and I'm named Gatorade National.

1212
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: Football Player of the Year.

1213
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: I take my best friend, Johnny Nicholas, and I that

1214
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: we fly to Pasadena, California, because I'm Gatearea National Football

1215
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: Player of the Year and I'm going to the Super

1216
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Bowl for the first time ever in my life. First

1217
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: time get on the plane to travel, all the spents

1218
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: paid for. We're sitting in the Rose Bowl watching the

1219
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos play against the Denver Broncos play against the

1220
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: New York Giants. And I'm watching these grown men play

1221
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: the sport that I would want it, and I am

1222
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: expiring to play in the back of the hairs. On

1223
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: my next stands up and I turn to my best friend,

1224
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: I said, one of these days.

1225
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: I want to play in the Super Bowl. I want

1226
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 3: to play in that stadium, go.

1227
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: To University of Florida, graduate, end up with the Dallas Cowboys.

1228
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: Even after Cowboys had a one and fifteen season two

1229
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: and a half three years later, were playing our very

1230
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: first Super.

1231
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: Bowl in the Rose Bowl. In the Rose Bowl.

1232
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: God has a way of showing you things before it

1233
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: actually happens, giving you a glimpse.

1234
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just a glimpse.

1235
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: You could pep as Martin Luther King said, I've been

1236
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: to the mountain town.

1237
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I get there with you.

1238
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: But I've been there and getting there and being able

1239
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: to get a glimpse of what it looks like, and

1240
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: then being able to rent onto that field and know

1241
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: that he's up there watching.

1242
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: My family's up there watching.

1243
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then to take the principles right down your

1244
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: goals is only dreaming to you right down and do

1245
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: the same thing from a college all the way through

1246
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 2: the pros and then in two thousand and two become

1247
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: the NFL all time leading Russia.

1248
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: I can't tell you why me. I can't tell you

1249
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: why me. There's been many others that came before me.

1250
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: There was a guy that I thought had the ability

1251
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: to blow it completely out the water, and that was

1252
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: Barry Cinders. I can't tell you why his heart got

1253
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: cold from the game, because.

1254
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: He had the potential to go into twenty thousand. He

1255
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 3: was just that good.

1256
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: But it's thing.

1257
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: But I can't tell you why some things are for

1258
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: certain people. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say.

1259
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: Okay, And because I don't always put barrier ahead and

1260
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: say I'm chasing after him no matter what. I don't

1261
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: care if I'm the all time, I don't care if

1262
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: I led the league in rushing in four years straight.

1263
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm putting him out ahead of me because I'm chasing

1264
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: after him. I know he's gonna put up some numbers,

1265
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put up numbers two.

1266
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversy around the helmet's and the

1267
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: safety of football, especially in schools and high schools, and

1268
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: there's controversy around college students getting paid for their effort.

1269
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,879
Speaker 1: I want to hear you talk about both of them.

1270
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the head.

1271
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna be able to avoid that.

1272
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 3: I just don't think so.

1273
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: It's the head is part of the game, no matter

1274
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: if I'm playing flag, no matter if I'm playing tackle.

1275
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: Another somebody gonna butt heads somewhere. Another somebody gonna hit

1276
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: the ground, shoulders, head.

1277
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: Necks, and it's gonna be that whipping. It's just the way,

1278
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: just the nature of the game.

1279
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: So quite about the college students. Should they be paid?

1280
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: Should a college student? Yes, they should be. They should be,

1281
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: They should be. It is the college is a machine.

1282
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I need to go and find a

1283
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: lawsuit because I need some retroactive play pay myself because

1284
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 2: I know for the three years out of at the

1285
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 2: University of Floid, they sold a whole lot of twenty

1286
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: two jerseys.

1287
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: And they did a whole lot of advertisment.

1288
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, I take that

1289
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: capital today and I take it with interest.

1290
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: So you think it's been a long time coming, it's.

1291
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Been a long time coming.

1292
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean think back, and I think back to the

1293
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties and nineties.

1294
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: Brian Bosworth used to talk about it.

1295
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: He said, NCAA standard stood for National comminents against athletes

1296
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: because they did not want to pay athletes. They called

1297
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: us amateurs. They put the marketing spend on it, and

1298
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: they made us look greedy to the public. In reality,

1299
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 2: they were greedy. They were making all of this money.

1300
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Then the SEC blew up, and SEC was always a

1301
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: tough conference to play in. But when the SEC and

1302
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: Alabama started winning all these championships.

1303
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: Now everybody want to figure out what's.

1304
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: Going on down in the SEC and they getting television

1305
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: revenue billions of dollars. So Title nine comes in, which

1306
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: is fine, perfect that bring Title nine in.

1307
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: It deserved to be in. Women deserve to have the

1308
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: same kind of access to things that we have. So

1309
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: that's great. However, let's look at all this capital that's

1310
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: coming in.

1311
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: Yes, you can sell my jersey with my name on it,

1312
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: but I can't make a dime off of it. So

1313
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: you're trying to tell me my college education should be

1314
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: good enough for me, really versus.

1315
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: The capitol that you're making. I got a fifty somethings

1316
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

1317
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: Piece of paper, fifty fifty thousand dollars piece of paper

1318
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: that says I graduated from the University of Florida.

1319
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: That's not a job. That's just said I graduated. Where's

1320
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: the job. Oh, my job is football. My job right

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01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: now is football, but shortly short lived.

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: At all them jerseys, some of them jerseys still exists

1323
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: today and somebody's closet, but the revenue has been spent,

1324
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: or the revenue is there to help put new buildings

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Speaker 2: up or something like that.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, yes, these guys should

1327
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: get paid, but there should be a structure that makes

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: some sense for everybody.

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: And if you don't want to give the players all

1330
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: of the money, which is fine, make sure that they're

1331
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: sitting it in, putting it in the trust or somewhere

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: where it's protected.

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 3: And it can grow so they can get it later later.

1334
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: About this, you got this is what's so disappointing to

1335
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: me about all this.

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: You have all of these smart people.

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: That are making these decisions, and the ad like they

1338
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: cannot come up with the right structure. Why is that?

1339
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: Is it because you don't want to come up with

1340
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: the right structure. But I can see them think about it,

1341
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: and I can tell you certain things that you probably

1342
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: should do. Put a cap on it. If a guy's

1343
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: making three million dollars, we give them two million dollars

1344
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars a year, Let the other money

1345
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: sit in and esk grow, Let it mature, let it grow,

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: let them draw down on it every year, or something

1347
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: of that nature. There's things that you can do to

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: help manage some of these things. But the NC double

1349
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: A has let it run rampant because now I go

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Speaker 2: back to why did you give SMU.

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Speaker 3: The death penalty?

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 5: Because all of this right now deserve the death penoty everything,

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 5: and you destroyed that school and school is just not

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 5: getting back to where it once was.

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Speaker 3: And that's been over thirty.

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Years, over thirty years, and so do I think the

1357
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: kids deserve to get paid, Yes, they do, but you need.

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 1: To I think you should have been an attorney.

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: I think I think the the NCAA didn't do it right,

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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: and they know they didn't do it right.

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 3: They allowed the wild wild West to.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: Come in, and you're gonna have schools that have alumni based.

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 3: Stanford has alumni base that's so big.

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01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: Sodas and SODA's Texas SMU, TCU, they got Texas Tech.

1365
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: They got all money left and right.

1366
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: They got billions and billions of dollars that can flow

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Speaker 2: into the program. And I honestly believe that the NCAA

1368
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: has allowed it to happen so they can sit back

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01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: and see what's going to go on and then try

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: to come back and look like this the savior of

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: it all. But these kids on the other side, they

1372
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: are being destroyed because now they've been given way too much,

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: way too soon. They're showing up in Lamborghinis on a

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Speaker 2: college campus. Right in the Lamborghini right right, they already

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: think that they pro So now they can talk back

1376
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: to the coach. Now they can tell the coach what

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01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: they really think. And they can transfer sixteen times and

1378
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: not get in no trouble. Now they can go to

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Speaker 2: school for eight years and still get paid. Come on, now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's things that you need to put in place. How

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: many times can you transfer? Maybe one? And then after

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: that you transfer again. You got to sit out a

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 2: whole year, maybe you lose a year of algebell.

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like it's some pros and cons. There

1385
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: are pros and cons to almost everything in life.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, let me ask you this. If we jumping the

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Speaker 1: time machine and we push out from twenty to twenty

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: six to twenty thirty six, what would Emmitt do over

1389
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: the next ten years? What do you what do you

1390
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: see for yourself? I see a dynamic shift.

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01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: With the convergence of technology and energy, technology that can

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: change the landscape of the way we see things today,

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: like the Industrial revolution itself transform to where we are now.

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: This next wave of technology and the energy itself, the

1395
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: energy focus, the natural gases, the natural resources that's going

1396
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 2: to be required for upgrading battery systems. I'll tell you

1397
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: right now, everything that we know is going to get better,

1398
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: and it's gonna get faster. We can shoot this whole

1399
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: segment on an iPhone. Don't tell me it can't get better.

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: It's gonna get better. And the better things get, the

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 2: more we as humans gonna have to adapt. What I

1402
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: love about football, it requires us to adapt and to

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,879
Speaker 2: think quickly on our feet.

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if the better things get the worst to we.

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: Get humans right, Yeah, because humans want things to stay

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01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: the same. You're not gonna stay twenty as you know,

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01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: and I know, and the sun is gonna come up

1408
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: tomorrow and it's gonna go down the same day, and

1409
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: everything is gonna continue to evolve and get better.

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: Either you're gonna evolve with it or you're gonna get

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: left behind.

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: And if you choose to get left behind, that's where

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: the human part of it, that's where people feel like

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: somebody down them wrong.

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: You also have the algorithms that feed you the message

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: that you are interested in, so you create this echo

1417
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: chamber where you think everybody thinks like you true enough,

1418
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: you got AI coming along, who's counseling you how to

1419
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: commit suicide? That's some kind of scary stuff.

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01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: That is scary.

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: On the other hand, you know, I wouldn't be sitting

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: here for it one for technology, right, So, I mean

1423
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: there's good and there's bad to it. There's no legislation

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,520
Speaker 1: that is set up around it now to give it guardrails.

1425
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: So you know, it's like driving in Hollywood somewhere, going

1426
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: around those mountains. If there's no guardrails, you can easily

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: go over the cliffs. Yes, sir, and that's my concern.

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: But do you think do you see yourself in some

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01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: way engaged in technology over the next.

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: Ten years, No doubt, some kind of way.

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to either engage myself, whether it's Chat, GDP,

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: some kind of way to do something, or even crazy

1433
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: ideas that I might have, and I'm a very creative person,

1434
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 2: flush it all out through Chat, or flush it out

1435
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: through some kind of algorithm or some kind of system

1436
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: that helps me not only research my thought process but

1437
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: also help me put it together. Because now Chat and

1438
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 2: also AI have the ability to write code for me.

1439
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: So maybe my speed to market on my MVP of

1440
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: my product itself could be brought to market much sooner.

1441
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 2: So whatever ideas or thoughts that I may have around

1442
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: certain things or creative things that I can put patterns around.

1443
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: And I'm learning that patterns are not always the best things.

1444
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: But you spend a lot of money trying to get

1445
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,959
Speaker 2: paths and you think they could become valuable.

1446
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: Well they don't always.

1447
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, those type of

1448
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: things for creative people to see where technology can actually

1449
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: go and meet it when it gets there. That's that's

1450
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: part of it too.

1451
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: If you could doctor chat GPT and map out the

1452
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: next ten years based on the strengths of the talents

1453
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: and the businesses that you started. More and more people

1454
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: are using chat GPT as an advisor, as a consultant,

1455
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: as a business consultant. What would be the prompt?

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about technology. Let's talk about the

1457
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 3: convergence of AI and power. I probably ask chat GDP

1458
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: to serve as a.

1459
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: Lead analyst or consultant in a two different technology AI

1460
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: technology and the emergence.

1461
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 3: Of new and clean energy.

1462
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 2: How those two would come together to create the efficiencies

1463
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: for local government power grids and whatever else is lacking.

1464
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: I may find some other things as I think through it,

1465
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 2: to add on local government and the power grids, slash

1466
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 2: something else, something else, something else, to create a smart city.

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 3: That already has.

1468
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: The infrastructure in place, but it's outdated infrastructure because you

1469
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: can't just always move out new and leader old.

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 3: Where's that even though.

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01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: Some people want to do that, because how do you

1472
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,919
Speaker 2: repurpose those things?

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01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: How do you build a friend ladder that connects with

1474
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: your dream ladder? And they tell me that you put

1475
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: your dreams on the mirror. Okay, I haven't done that,

1476
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: so it must be true because you laughed. So all

1477
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: that stuff we got on the mirror. Maybe we can

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01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: put the chat GPT now right right? Okay, So if

1479
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: we put it to chat GPT, how do your associates?

1480
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: Are you building the associations at match where you're trying

1481
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: to go?

1482
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 3: There's the key.

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: Building something within chat or within the application that identifies

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01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: my whole entire database faster than I can think about

1485
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: the names, as long as I got them in there,

1486
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: clean and pair them up with the opportunities that I

1487
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: may have. When it's on the real estate side, whether

1488
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: it's on the technology development side, find me these names

1489
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: in my database.

1490
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: And you seem to have the courage to walk up

1491
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: on these people. Oh yeah, you'll pull right up on them.

1492
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: Oh yes, sir, I'll pull up on you.

1493
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: This is true. This is true.

1494
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, great ideas, And if you have.

1495
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: People that truly believe in you, you test it, right,

1496
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 2: you test it and if you've done your due diligence

1497
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: and thought through the process and come to the realization

1498
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: of of answering the questions of what the MVP looks like,

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01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 2: what you're expecting to get out of the MVP. Not

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: only that, but then what does the business model look like?

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Is it a subscription model model or or is it

1502
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: just a one time purchase or whatever it may be.

1503
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: In today's world, people want subscription models. So now you

1504
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: you build it towards the subscription model. Then you start

1505
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: to think about other things marketing aspect of it.

1506
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: What does the demographics looks like.

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: For this particular piece or that piece, or how many

1508
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: different different graphics do you touch?

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01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: So if we're laying the foundation, the foundation starts with

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01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: relationship always, and.

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01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: Then you may run it by people first before for

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01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: almost before.

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: You go to market. Yeah, yeah, in conversation.

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01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Andiation and who's who's that, who's the thought leaders that

1515
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: you want to talk to?

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: And from there to realization exactly and for there to manifestation.

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01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: As I'm praying over it all all the way through,

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01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: I got you because every time you go to sleep

1519
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: and you pray about something before you go to bed,

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01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: you want to wake up with another You may wake

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01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 2: up with a new thought, yeah, and a new trigger

1522
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: that may have you go down another set of stairs.

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: That innovative thought is a gift. Yeah, it doesn't have

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01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: to materialize to be a gift. It's an embryotic gift

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01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: that depending on the womb of the mind, yes, that

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: it enters into it creates a safe place for it

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01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: to gestate and come to full birth. Yes, I would

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01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: say you're one of those places. Thank you so much

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: for coming, No, thank you for having me joy. I

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01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed it too. Hey, everybody, I want to take this

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Speaker 1: time to thank you for watching the next Chapter podcast.

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Speaker 1: If this conversation inspired you, helps you reflect on an

1533
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: idea or spark something new inside of you, make sure

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:59,200
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Speaker 1: life isn't about how you begin It's about how you

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Speaker 1: here every week,