1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: never sold to your production of iHeart Radio. Yes, and 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: welcome to women around the world. Do Do Do? Do Do? So? 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Happy Women's History Month, and if you are a new listener, 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. And as a reminder for us 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: here on spenty women's history includes all those who identify 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: as women and that they are women. So with so 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: many violations and continued parsecations against the trans and quare community, 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: we think it's important that we reiterate the statement as 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: much as possible. And it's been a minute before we 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: said that. And as another reminder or introduction, whether or 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: not you just hopped onto this spenty fam listening party 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: or not, we are all about intersectionality and that means 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: quote the complex, cumulative way in which the effects of 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: multiple forms of discrimination such as racism, sexism, and classism combine, 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: overlapped or intersect, especially in the experience of marginalized individuals 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: or groups. Thank you, Miriam Webster. Yes, intersectional feminism was 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: coined by Kimberley Pinshaw and we adhere to those ideas. 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: So if that offends you in any way, you may 20 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: not want to listen anymore because we're going to keep 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: it on offending you. Yeah, I'm just telling you straightforward. 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: So moving on to our series on women around the 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: world today, we're doing uh, look at some of the 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: amazing women of the twenty two Winter Olympics. Yeah, we 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: know we are a little late. It's March eleven two 26 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: if you wanted to know, But hey, we made it. 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: It's happening. Also, the Paralympics are going on right now, 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: so yes, and we will come back to that. It 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: is going on right now. Some good things happening for 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: this Olympics. Specifically, the amount of women competing has almost 31 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: equaled out to the men who are competing as well, 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: with women making up forty five point four percent of 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: the athletes competing, which is a record high. However, it 34 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: should also be noted that they're not as many opportunities 35 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: slash categories for women to compete in. But hey, baby steps, 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: I guess uh yeah. Um. And in this Olympics, it 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: has had its number of scandals, with calls for boycotting, 38 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: possibly missing athletes, doping, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Um, but there 39 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: has been also costs for celebration, so let's talk about 40 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: some of that. Yes, So first up is Eileen gu Or, 41 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: as some call her, snow Princess or Princess Um, a 42 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: California resident competing for China who won gold in the 43 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: freeze ski half pipe and became the first athlete to 44 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: reach the podium in three different freestyle skiing events. She 45 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: also won gold in big air and the silver medal 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: in slope style, and not surprisingly, she has been criticized 47 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: for her decision to compete for China, but that doesn't 48 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: change her wins are her accomplishments, right, And there is 49 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: an in depth conversation with her and some of her 50 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: interviews when they talk about that, and she just talks 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: about that her nationality is both Chinese and American, and 52 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that is something to know. As a person 53 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: who was born in Korea, I really wish I kind 54 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: of had some citizenship still attached to me. But being adopted, 55 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: of course, that's a whole different conversation. Dual citizenship just 56 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: sounds cool anyway. So that's me, that's me whatever. Um. 57 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Then there's Elena Meyers Taylor, who has become the most 58 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: decorated Olympic bobs letter after winning a bronze medal in 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Beijing and the most decorated Black athlete in the Olympics. 60 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Yay the Beijing Olympics. It was her fourth Olympic Games. 61 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Mayor Taylor's has compete eat it in Vancouver in two 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: thousand tens so and Peng Chang in eighteen and started 63 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: out her box slating career in two thousand seven. And 64 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: by the way, she's won three silver and two bronze. 65 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: And then we have the Netherlands athlete Irene Voss, who 66 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: became the first athlete to win individual gold medals at 67 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: five different Olympic Games. And during the most recent Games, 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Vost was able to set an Olympic record in the 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: women's speed skating one thousand, five hundred meter race. And 70 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: of course that aren't her only medal. She has a 71 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: total of twelve Olympic medals since she started in two 72 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: thousand and six. And not that it matters, but she 73 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: did become the oldest speed skater to win gold at 74 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: thirty five. Right, this used to be a theme by 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: the way, age and I get it, but then I'm 76 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: seeing her age at thirty five, I'm like, I'm dying 77 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: after doing a zoomba class so at forty one. Cool, 78 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: very cool. Moving on to German competitor Natalie Geisenberger. Geisenberger 79 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: became the first three time women's loose singles gold medalist. 80 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: The nine time World champion and six time Olympic champion 81 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: is one of the most decorated female athletes and is 82 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: regarded as one of the best in losing, which is 83 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: a very terrifying sport to me. And I hold my 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: breath every time I see you, thinking someone's going to 85 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: be just off gone. By the way she started doing 86 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: all of those at the age of ten. Wow, I'm petrified. 87 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and once again thinking about Star Wars 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: getting bought into the Jedi Order at a young age. 89 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: But all right, all right, that's a different conversation. Um, 90 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: And we have another Netherlands athlete breaking records, Suzanne Schultzing, 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: who set a new record in the women's one thousand 92 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: meters short track sheltering. Beat the record by finishing the 93 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: quarterfinals race with a record time of one minute twenty 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: six seconds a couple of milliseconds. In the finals she 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: finished in one minute twenty seconds UM and three point 96 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: and three nine one milliseconds and of course one gold, 97 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: and I hope I did not mess that up, but 98 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: I believe that is. You can always let me know. 99 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: And then there is a German Olympian, Claudia pes Stein, 100 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: who has become the oldest woman athlete to compete at 101 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: the winner Olympics. Um. She's forty nine, about to turn fifty. 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Pestein is also the only woman to ever compete in 103 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: eight Olympic Games. Woof. She has won a total of 104 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: nine medals, five gold, two silver, and to bronze. Right, 105 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I think she may have just turned I think she's 106 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: already turned fifty because the Olympics when did it end 107 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: like a month ago? Yeah? Yeah, I think she was 108 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: like two weeks away from being fifty, so that was 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: really significant. But yeah, I did. I was like, wait, 110 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: what is today, y'all? I'm so oliver all over the calendar. 111 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you. Our weather in Georgia right now. Wild. 112 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: It is bonkers. It's gonna be like freezing cold to one. Yeah, 113 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: and yesterday it was like eighty. It's wild. Anyway, We're 114 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: a little bit fuzzy right now when it comes to 115 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: time and what he and seasons apparently, So let's talk 116 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: about Aaron Jackson, who is an American speed skater who 117 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: won the gold medal in the women's five A race. 118 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: She's the first black woman to take home this medal 119 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: and the first American woman to to medal since for 120 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: this race. UM and not to take away from Jackson's 121 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: well deserved when, I feel like her story is a 122 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: little bit about friendship and women supporting women as well. 123 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Jackson almost missed the Olympics because there's only two slots available, 124 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: uh and due to an error in the trials that 125 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: she was like number three at that point, but teammate 126 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Brittany bow forfeited her place, which allowed for Jackson to compete, 127 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and Jackson was like, you know, I am so grateful 128 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: for her for doing this. Um and talking of Jackson, 129 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: both said words cannot explain how proud I am of her. 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: I knew she had the chance to do something really 131 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: special and she just showed the world why she deserved 132 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: to be here. And of course, again I don't want it, 133 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: because Jackson is a well trained athletes who has done 134 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: amazing things and she is an amazing woman. In congratulations 135 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: to her, when, but I just really love that backstory 136 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: of like, uh, us women loving each other Yes, And 137 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I actually saw I witnessed this one because I I 138 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: didn't watch too much of The Winner and look explited 139 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: to see I'd say, like, you know, um, and I 140 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: saw this one and it was very, very moving and 141 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: she was just so like incandescent, like so happy. It 142 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: was a really powerful, powerful moment. I love those times. Um. 143 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: And of course we we kind of want to in 144 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: the end, not one necessarily a negative note, but just 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: as a reminder of how far we have to go. 146 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about it when we 147 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: were talking about the Summer Olympics and the history of 148 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: the Olympics in general has taken a lot for women 149 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: to be able to even compete in general, and what 150 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: kind of stakes that has taken, and even to this day, 151 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: what we're talking about when it comes to outfits in 152 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: sexist converse stations about women and whether or not they 153 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: can compete in specific things, racial discrimination within the Olympics 154 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: as well, a whole big conversation that we've had. So 155 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: we didn't want to talk about a couple of topics, 156 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: including the fact in the US we had a headline, 157 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: uh in a big publication stating that possibly in the 158 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: ice skating competition that it was the Asian people were 159 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: overly represented in that competition, and of course got a 160 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of backlash. And we know that the Asian hate 161 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: has been pretty rampant in the last three years, to 162 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: the point that it's become very divisive in so many 163 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: communities in any way, So when you see rhetoric like this, 164 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, huh, did you really want to 165 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: antagonize people? Why? Yeah? And I'm not gonna lie, yes, 166 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: I have seen many representation of Asian women in in 167 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: ice skating, which by the way, I've never had the 168 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: hopes of doing so as an Asian woman myself, so 169 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm not really like, oh yeah, but Michelle Kwan and 170 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Christie mcgucci were two of the people that I'm like, 171 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, look at these elegant women who are 172 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: amazing who lose somewhat like me being hailed as heroes 173 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and icons. It was very unusual and I hate that 174 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that's that Like, for like, the overshadowing of this one 175 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: article was like, yeah, but is it that's probably overpopulated, 176 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: like with too many Asians. It's kind of like what what? Yeah, 177 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: like one, but also why, I mean, I've never seen 178 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: any article saying is over over like there's too many 179 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: white people in this statement, Like wait, but you literally 180 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: have to search for people of color in competitions like 181 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: this half the time. I'm even being international, you still 182 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: have to you know what I mean? Yes, I know 183 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: what you mean. And then also, the term slush strands 184 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: has kind of become Um, well, maybe not to y'all. 185 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we get these alerts because we are constantly on 186 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: the lookout for feminist headlines or anti feminist headlines, both 187 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: of those things. And so maybe it just popped up 188 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: about how we talked about how Google knows us a 189 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: little too well and really wants to send our way. 190 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: But recently Chloe Kim came out talking about how she 191 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: hated the term slush strands, which is when two strands 192 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: of hair are left loose outside of competitives helmet to 193 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: frame their face. Um, and y'all, I didn't expect to 194 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: find as much information as I did, as in fact, 195 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: there was a specific brand called slush strands that was 196 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: correlated to skiing. I'm not scared. I'm very scared skiing. 197 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to fall that many times. That just 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: looks so painful. To fall. So many times I fall walking, 199 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: so skiing looks like it should not be something I 200 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: should take up as my ungraceful self. So the slug Strands, 201 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: like I told you, was a brand someone really just 202 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: have a lot lies on it. And her name is 203 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Elsa and she wrote about you know why why she 204 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: did it and and it she says. For years the 205 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: term slut strand has held a negative connotation in skiing 206 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: and snowboarding, yet it remained to be a term we 207 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: used every day. So why not embracelet reclaim it, celebrate 208 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: it and the slut Strands society at its course here 209 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: to celebrate the ladies of skiing and snowboarding and give 210 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: us a space in our division and band together. Girls 211 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: are cool, okay, so kiss goodbye the ski hose, the 212 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: pro hos and all of that bs. We are far 213 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: better than that and have the ability to create a 214 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: society that's both uplifting and cool as So obviously she 215 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: is trying to rebrand it. Kind of have We've talked 216 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: about reclaiming words, but it is I think we need 217 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: to understand the connotations and kind of dissected before we 218 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: can truly celebrate it. Because hearing it as a newbie 219 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: from me, It's like what right, right? And I would 220 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people who use that term have 221 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: not arrived at this viewpoint yet. But I've never heard 222 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: this term. But it is a big term, and I 223 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: cannot believe maybe just from the outside in and people 224 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: who are scared are gonna be like, you're being overly sensitive. 225 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seems like, Wow, I can't 226 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: believe this term is stayed around because it literally does 227 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: talk about women being like the word feminine has been 228 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: thrown about as if like this is how you share 229 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: your femininity, this is how you're still show your passion 230 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: or your fashion rather and this is what women do. 231 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yeah, it's very pointed. Yeah, I 232 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: mean the fact that you're using the word flood is 233 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: pretty telling because I have to say, like I'm sim 234 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: I like to frame my face. Yeah, I've been told 235 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: that I shouldn't, and I disagree, but I don't feel 236 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: like that right. I don't understand how that makes anyone slid. 237 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: But let's also talk about the fact that some of 238 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: the big articles around Chloe Kim, who, by the way, 239 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: is one of the first women in Olympic history to 240 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: went back to back gold in half pipe. Yeah, so 241 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: she's a phenomenal athlete. But because she opposes this term, 242 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: this type of article is what's surrounding her instead of 243 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: her accomplishments. So that again shows why this is a 244 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: narrative that's like, yeah, isn't it sexist? Yeah, that's really 245 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: frustrating to have these these great athletic accomplishments and winds. 246 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Instead of celebrating that, we're like, but did you see 247 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: her hair? It's ridiculous, right, I mean into the fact 248 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that wanting to be cute or presentable for national international 249 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: TV is I've seen as a girl. You know, we 250 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: already know those troops anyway, to be completely reduced to 251 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: this superficiality, which is not superficial. It's not superficial to 252 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: want to be happy about the way you look when 253 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: you go out compete and if you can look good 254 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: while doing it, well, kudos. They should give another medal 255 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: just for being able to do so. And it's like 256 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: extreme things like that, And also like I bet I 257 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: know I do things better when I feel like I 258 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: when I feel good about myself, Like I can totally 259 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: see if you're like Oh I look good and it 260 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: builds your confidence and then you nail that have pipe thing. Yes, 261 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't skiing thing. It was fun, but I was 262 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: bad at it. It was very bad in need. But yeah, 263 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of has this conversation when what 264 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about in general is the damn if you do, 265 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: damn if you don't, if you don't look pretty, another 266 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: going to criticize you from homely if you look too pretty, 267 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: then what are you trying to impress? Why you being 268 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a girly girl. It's kind of like what why just 269 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: let it be? And yeah, again, like I said, I 270 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: feel like any effort in general should be awarded rewarded. 271 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I found that interesting. I feel 272 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to have this conversation about women's 273 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: fashion in athletics, and I'm sure it's been had once, 274 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: but coming back to look at it again about how 275 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: it does really lean to be like huh because we 276 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: know again we had the whole thing with women's volleyball, 277 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: women's gymnastics about their costumes and or uniforms and it 278 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: being specialized to be for the male gaze. Again Yeah blood, Yeah, no, 279 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: for sure, there's a lot. There's a lot we can 280 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: touch on has come out recently about these games that 281 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: have always been there, but it's every now and then. 282 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I catched myself being like, oh, yeah, that is really 283 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: mess stuff that we're still doing this, so we you 284 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: do have plans to come back to that, and there 285 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: has been a lot of news in the world of 286 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: sports that we're looking to to visit um in an 287 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: upcoming episode, But in the meantime, listeners. As always, we 288 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. 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