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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon Live for the Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Studios, where we just watch the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: get a whole heck of a lot more interesting. The

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Speaker 1: Thunder pull out Game four thanks to two things, SGA

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Speaker 1: turning into the MVP and Scott Foster extending the series

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Speaker 1: with various calls and non calls the final two minutes

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Speaker 1: of this game. That really, I did my job, helped

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Speaker 1: usher the Thunder along to win this one.

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Speaker 3: He's doing the full Jack Nicholson. I did my job.

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Speaker 3: I'll do it again.

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Speaker 1: I mean look, just to recap here, we got Mark

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Speaker 1: Medina stop and buy in a minute. This is a

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Speaker 1: this is a nip tuck game. In the final two

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Speaker 1: minutes and you saw lou Dort get away with a

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Speaker 1: clear foul when he shoves Tyrese Haliburton out of the

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Speaker 1: way so we can step in and pick off a pass.

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Speaker 1: You got two non calls on Sga who clearly just

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Speaker 1: absolutely pushed off with his entire off arm and hit

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Speaker 1: two jumpers, and then the two fouls away from the

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Speaker 1: ball as the Thunder were inbounding two free three throws

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Speaker 1: at different times in the final two minutes for the Thunder.

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Speaker 1: That's eight points, right, eight points and up the Thunder

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Speaker 1: to their seven point victory one eleven, one oh four.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now, I'm the hotline. A man who was

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Speaker 1: called this morning to say, hey, can you officiate this game?

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Speaker 1: Mark Badina? They see he said no, no, no, call

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Speaker 1: Scott Foster instead. It is sports keta Athlon CBSTV, NBA insider,

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Speaker 1: longtime front of the show, Mark Medina.

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Speaker 3: What's happening man? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Hey? Davison looks let's just throw this out here. Shay

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Speaker 4: goes Alexander, showing signs of Michael Jordan both for scre

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Speaker 4: and Brilliants, then getting away with a bush off.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you getting away with more than that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the two biggest performances in this game,

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Speaker 1: Mark shake Gilders Alexander the final five minutes and Scott

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Speaker 1: Foster the final five minutes.

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, you want to extend the series. Maybe it

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Speaker 4: increases the ratings even more. Get some less talk on

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Speaker 4: the Knicks, and they're terrible coaching, search, so you gotta

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Speaker 4: pull out, all out, all the stops when the sticks

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Speaker 4: are high.

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Speaker 1: All right, So look this game, it looked like it

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Speaker 1: would look he was going the Pacers way in the

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Speaker 1: final five and a half minutes. Look, this is where

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Speaker 1: SGA shows everybody, I'm the best player in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm the MVP. Like, they were not going

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Speaker 1: to win this game unless he steps up in the

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Speaker 1: final five and a half minutes.

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Speaker 3: To be able to.

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Speaker 1: Do that in a night that is not your night

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Speaker 1: is So it's incredibly impressive because he was having a

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Speaker 1: bad night. Rare's twenty points on twenty one shots whatever

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Speaker 1: it was, and all of a sudden, Yeah no, I

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Speaker 1: got this fourteen to the last sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Like that's what MVPs do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what MVP is doing. Look, he did get

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Speaker 4: away with some calls, but I think the bigger thing

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Speaker 4: about Shay Gildess Alexander is. He's really talented and most

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Speaker 4: of his free throws are earned of, you know, knowing

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Speaker 4: how to be aggressive, knowing how to play the angles,

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Speaker 4: and when you look in the first half, he was

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Speaker 4: not doing that at all. He had literally zero free

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Speaker 4: throws in the first half, and a lot of that

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Speaker 4: has been Andrew Imphart's great defense on him, also Shay

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Speaker 4: not being aggressive enough. But you know, to your point,

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Speaker 4: he almost pulled the tyres Halburton that he's been pulling

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Speaker 4: gets tough, when they need to make a late game comeback,

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Speaker 4: the ball is in his hands. But it's a different

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Speaker 4: context because Shay is the MVP, he's a better player,

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Speaker 4: and he's known for scoring, and they really need it

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Speaker 4: because we've seen time and time again to pay are

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Speaker 4: not a joke. They're a legitimate team. They've they've earned

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Speaker 4: their appearance here, even if it's been at the expense

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Speaker 4: of your beloved Knicks, and they play as well as

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Speaker 4: it as any team would hope for in terms of depth.

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Speaker 4: So the Thunder have to match that. But when they

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Speaker 4: don't have that consistently, you got to have your best player,

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Speaker 4: just elevate your game, and that's what Shade did. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't technically must win because it's two to one, but

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Speaker 4: I would say it was must win. As he said

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Speaker 4: after the game, a two to two serious tie as

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Speaker 4: much different than mid down three one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's let's go into the officiating part of

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Speaker 3: things here, Mark, how many bullet points do you have

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Speaker 3: for the final two minute review? That feeling that the

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Speaker 3: SGA thing is part of what offensive players when you

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Speaker 3: were one of the quote greats, you're going to get

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Speaker 3: away with that stuff. The lou Dort won to me

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Speaker 3: still just doesn't pass a whole lot of muster at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially loud Dort did that at the beginning of

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Speaker 4: the game. You might recall about that. I think mission

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Speaker 4: accomplished because it was rattling tyres. But yeah, the officials

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Speaker 4: have to see everything. But I think I think from

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Speaker 4: a procedural standpoint, the Pacers will certainly submit their issues.

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Speaker 4: That's what teams always do after every single game. But

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Speaker 4: I think Rick Carlisle is one of many coaches that

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Speaker 4: understanding that, especially in a playoff game, things aren't going

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Speaker 4: I think a bigger thing that Rick Carlisle has leaned

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Speaker 4: where he said something along the lines of when you win,

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Speaker 4: you feel like you'll never stop winning. When you lose,

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Speaker 4: you feel like you can never stop losing in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: And he was talking about, you know the other day,

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Speaker 4: how he's talked to his team about guarding against that

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Speaker 4: feeling of both invincibility after win and hopelessness after a loss,

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Speaker 4: because things can very much change in a playoff game,

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Speaker 4: and same thing applies to officiated.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that's my whole life is a Knicks fan,

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Speaker 3: except the first part.

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Speaker 1: You never feel like you're gonna lose when you're winning.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that first part. It's just why I

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Speaker 1: never feel like we're gonna win again.

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Speaker 4: If you don't remind me, Jason, I have to ask

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Speaker 4: you a question. Being a reporter, can you confirm or

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Speaker 4: deny that the Knicks fast are friends and boss of

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio for permission to interview for the job

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Speaker 4: this week?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen Mark when when Tims got fired that first night,

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Speaker 1: I said, Mike Brown.

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown's the guy.

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Speaker 1: The offensive system fits the defensive system he has. You're

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Speaker 1: going to get them to play better defense. He's coached

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Speaker 1: in big markets, He's coached big stars. He fits with

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Speaker 1: everything the Knicks want to do. I could have called

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Speaker 1: James Dole and say, hey, dude, fifty just send me

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Speaker 1: a check for fifty grand.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you who to talk to. Right, what do

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Speaker 3: you get the first two guys?

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Speaker 1: Then we get free, and we get the whole week

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Speaker 1: to the whole week, and we're gonna call for permission

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Speaker 1: of teams that are going to say no. And what

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Speaker 1: do we find out today, Hey, they're gonna officially talk

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Speaker 1: to Mike Brown next week. Like I could run the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: I could have run this entire coaching search for fifty

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Speaker 1: grand and they would have zero embarrassment. I think I

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Speaker 1: need to be forget about head coach May. I got

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Speaker 1: to stay higher than that. I got to start thinking, hey,

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Speaker 1: Leon Rose, you got to step aside because I could

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Speaker 1: run this thing better than you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess that it was denied the request.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but Mike Brown, I'll get to talk to.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: one thing to do due diligence, but the way they're

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Speaker 4: going after coaches that are either still in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: right on all the supermodels and hoping that one of them. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it didn't make any sense. And I agree that when

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Speaker 4: actually fit this criteria of helping the next sketches championship level,

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Speaker 4: Mike Brown's at the top of the list. People might

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Speaker 4: say Michael Malone because he won a championship two years ago.

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Speaker 4: But one, he is very similar with Tom Thibodeau his

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Speaker 4: you'd have a problem with Michael Malone. And two, I

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Speaker 4: Mike Brown, he's a really good coach. He's very assertive,

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Speaker 4: but he is a very good team player. But I

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Speaker 4: think as far as his coaching shops go, you know,

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Speaker 4: he's been experienced he's been championship tested, and I think

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Speaker 4: that knowing how Mike operates when he's looked at coaching vacancies,

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Speaker 4: it hasn't just been anything. It's always been about will this,

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Speaker 4: you know, opportunity to give me a chance to compete

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Speaker 4: for a championship? And obviously it does. And he's known

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Speaker 4: for being a defensive oriented coach, so that's good. But

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Speaker 4: I think the very underrated thing is that he's really

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Speaker 4: innovated offensively during his time with the Sacramento Kings because

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Speaker 4: all these prolonged film studies and practices. He's been able

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Speaker 4: to find a good blend of knowing when to dial

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Speaker 4: on all offense set. I think that he can hit

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Speaker 3: That's good because I had Taylor Jenkins in the betting

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Speaker 3: pool here to the fact that I can't put anything

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Speaker 3: on Cat or Brunson's legs to make them play defense.

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Speaker 3: So let's just go full in on the offensive side

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, that's very well might what

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Speaker 4: might happen. But I think that even if it's incremental

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Speaker 4: improvement defensively, that can go a long way. I know

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Speaker 4: that Jason Smith is trying to figure out all the

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Speaker 4: different scenarios to get Jannathanta Tokompo. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that's going to happen. But even if the Knicks just

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Speaker 4: improve on the more margins with supporting casts, all those

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Speaker 4: little things add up, and I think that when you're

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Speaker 4: looking at this playoff runt, specifically with the Pacers, that's

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Speaker 4: the best example. You need to have role players that

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Speaker 4: can elevate their game on a consistent night. You need

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Speaker 4: your you know, kind of tear rotation guys that you

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Speaker 4: know what you're going to get on a nice to

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Speaker 4: night basis, and maybe some surprise wild cards. And you know,

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Speaker 4: that's the factor in this series obviously, so Jason's disappointment

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Speaker 4: that was a factor in the Pacers next series. So

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Speaker 4: we'll see what happens the summer.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mark, One of the things, just going back

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Speaker 3: to the initial search, I would want to know, did

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Speaker 3: they do it internally? Or did they hire a head

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Speaker 3: hunting firm, because the head hunting firm is always going

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Speaker 1: On Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina again Sports Key

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Speaker 1: Our movie is called Armageddon. It's about we we teach

436
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: oil drillers about astronauts to go knock these these big

437
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: meteors out there gonna blow up the world. Okay.

438
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Our movie is called.

439
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 1: Deep Impact and there's another meteor coming to blow up

440
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: the world.

441
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: Except this one strikes. Oh. Two completely different movies. Yeah,

442
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 3: I think I think we can have a good opportunity

443
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 3: as long as you don't have a bunch of little

444
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: yellow guys running around part one, So leave them out,

445
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: that's good. Yeah, if we're live action, leave the animation

446
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: just for the you know, the see I'm thinking.

447
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like more like a Harry Potter School for Gifted,

448
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, potential movie homicidal killers.

449
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm thinking.

450
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: That's what i'm you know, that's where'm at right now.

451
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah, no, I am with you. No, this

452
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: is good. I mean, and the accompanying graphic novels will

453
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: be big hits.

454
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I got just gotta wait for Harry

455
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: Potter Fall in the public domain will be absolutely fine.

456
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: But yes, happy Friday the thirteenth.

457
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 3: Hopefully you are watching a million off shoots already.

458
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: But like Friday the thirteenth, which was a ripoff of Halloween,

459
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: but that's just it.

460
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: It's like that Simpsons episode and this guy is just

461
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: a ripoff of that guy and that guy.

462
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: And you know, enjoy this Friday the thirteenth because it

463
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: is the only Friday the thirteenth of the year.

464
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: Wow, this is it. You only have a couple hours

465
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: to make it happen. If you're on the East coast.

466
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: You already you lost. Yeah.

467
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: And and also, by the way, Jason, for he's birthday,

468
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: He's born June thirteenth, nine to nineteen forty six?

469
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 3: Is that what it was?

470
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: He's seventy nine today, Jason, how about that? I mean,

471
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: that's a pretty happy birthday, Jason Warhies.

472
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: I like the gifts today, of I like the gypts today.

473
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Of like Jason trying to blow out a cake, but

474
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: he can't blow the candles out.

475
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: Because hes got the hockey mascot. He's trying to blow

476
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: the candles. So does he pull out the machete and

477
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: just chop the uh oh yeah, yeah, you just chopped

478
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: the cake and the flame goes off because he's got

479
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 3: so much torque. And as Molcolm says, is okay, that's okay.

480
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: Now I'll cut the cake for everybody.

481
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 3: Jason, thank you, thank you for helping.

482
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: Here we go.

483
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: Here's you calady done.

484
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Milton, please pass the cake, past the cake, and pass

485
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: the cake.

486
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: But last time there was cake, I didn't get any

487
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 3: and I was promised, please pat just pass the cake. Milton.

488
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: Milton plant passed the.

489
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: Cakeley so the pacers looked like they were gonna take

490
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: a three games to one lead. They were up by

491
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: ten second half, and suddenly, thanks to SGA and some

492
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: four two it is officiating, the Thunder come from behind

493
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: to beat the Pacers one eleven one oh four. And

494
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean it. There are five really bad calls actually

495
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: four and one questionable one all in the final minute

496
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: and a half that favored the Thunder gave them eight

497
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: points on their way to this seven point victory. And

498
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: I said, right, okay, Rick Carlisle's not going to be

499
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: able to help himself. He is going to go absolutely

500
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: crazy in the postgame and wonder what the hell happened

501
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: in the final couple of months, because you saw him.

502
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: He was not happy with some of this stuff. You

503
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: could see the f bombs and the curse words flying

504
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: out of his mouth when he would yell at the

505
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: officials for some of those calls that were made or

506
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: not made in the final two minutes.

507
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you go through it, though, Jason. I

508
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: mean it's in the front of the home crowd, so

509
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 3: that certainly is going to exacerbate issues like we can't

510
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: even get these on the home court. Although if you

511
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: go back and watch games one and two in Oklahoma City.

512
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: You might think they had a friendly whistle at times

513
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: to get back into games. So it all balances. But

514
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: tell that to a coach in the moment as he's

515
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 3: watching a lead dissipate and he's not His guys are

516
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: not responding and all their things that made them the

517
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: team they are, you know, fourth quarter excellence has gone

518
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: out the window.

519
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: So let's see did Rick Carlisle lose his mind or

520
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: was he much more subdued with a series tide going

521
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma City. He just met the media a

522
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: few moments ago. Let's listen to a couple of minutes

523
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: of the Pacers head coach.

524
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got stagnant.

525
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 6: Their second shots were a big problem. When you were

526
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 6: unable to rebound, you it's hard to continue to play

527
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: with pace and tempo. I haven't looked at the at

528
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 6: the end of the game yet, so I don't have

529
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 6: the blow by blow.

530
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: For you credit. Stop right there, boo boo, what do

531
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: you mean?

532
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the tape at the end of

533
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: the game. You saw some of those Oh come on,

534
00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: manrazle yet? Yeah, because Rick Carlile has gone into postgame

535
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: press conference before having seen all the video and ripping

536
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: the officials for calls that were made and not made.

537
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the end of the game yet.

538
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I've got expenses. I don't need a fine.

539
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: Who are you?

540
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: What have you done with Rick Carlyle? Come on, man,

541
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: that's not the Rick Carlile.

542
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: That's not good at all. Boo's dancing like he was

543
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: back like Robert Carlyle in the Full Money. Come on, man,

544
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: let's hear from a little bit more of the Pacers.

545
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Head coach.

546
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 6: I don't have the blow by blow for you, but

547
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 6: give them credit. You know, they kept attacking, kept attacking,

548
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 6: and their defense was great down the stretch.

549
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: Rick, you are had twenty assists in the first three

550
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: quarters but only one in the fourth. What do you

551
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: think caused that?

552
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 6: A lot of the same stuff I was just talking about.

553
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 6: An inability to come up with rebounds and inability to

554
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 6: get key stops was a part of it. And then

555
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 6: you know, we just got too stagnant. You know, the

556
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 6: ball was not being advanced quickly enough, we weren't creating problems,

557
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 6: and we were up against the clock a lot, so

558
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 6: things got very difficult. But you got to give Oklahoma credit.

559
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 6: I mean, they they made it very difficult.

560
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 7: Rick, from the very beginning of the series, you've talked

561
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 7: about how it's an eighteen day grind. How important is

562
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 7: that mindset now that you know but it's at least

563
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 7: going six and that you've prepared yourself for one that's

564
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 7: going to go either pretty close to the end or

565
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 7: to the ultimate end.

566
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 6: I mean, it's you know, it's it's it's the ultimate effort, endeavor,

567
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it. I mean, it's it's long,

568
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 6: it's arduous, but it's it's the greatest opportunity going. You know,

569
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 6: it's the greatest opportunity going. And it's it's really hard,

570
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 6: and it's supposed to be hard. You know, It's just

571
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 6: it's supposed to be hard. And this is where you know,

572
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 6: we're going to have to We're gonna have to dig

573
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 6: in and circle the wagons and come back stronger on Monday.

574
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 6: This was this a big disappointment, But there's three games left.

575
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 6: We're going to look at the film tomorrow and then travel.

576
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 6: You know, they had thirty eight free throws and that

577
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 6: was a problem. They made thirty four to thirty eight.

578
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 6: We had thirty three and made twenty five. You know

579
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 6: they missed for we mean missed eight, you know those

580
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 6: The difference of wars is significant. You know, there's a

581
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 6: lot of little things going on three four, but it's

582
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 6: the series is gonna come down to the basics, and

583
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 6: our inability to effectively rebound when we needed to is

584
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 6: the biggest thing.

585
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: You know.

586
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: Forty three to thirty three and a bunch of second

587
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 6: chance points, you know, made it, made it difficult and

588
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 6: in the end impossible.

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: So come on, well he was given every operating Rick,

590
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna toss this up for I'm gonna set

591
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: it like you're in a volleyball game and you're Goose

592
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: or Iceman. Well, no, Goose didn't, didn't spike it. You're Iceman,

593
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: You're Maverick, and you're you're gonna spike it over that

594
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: you had every chance. Yeah, well you know the free throws.

595
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: They had thirty eight, you know, but you know we

596
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: had thirty three, and well, you know, the difference of

597
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: four is.

598
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: A big deal.

599
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: It's like, oh wow, man, Like Rick, Carla, really, what

600
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: happened to you?

601
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Man? I'm disappointed. I was waiting for him to pull

602
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: out the Adam Silver you know, I know, over a

603
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: one point five billion impressions on social media through the

604
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: first three games. Like, I mean, he was like he

605
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: was trying to sell me a car. Everything's great, everything's awesome.

606
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: You know, you know, shucks, we just didn't get it

607
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: done in the fourth. Uh, you know we were stagnant,

608
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: but like the most positive you could ever do instead

609
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: of an ass chewing of your team, Come on, man,

610
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: get fired up. The disappointment just someone needed to double

611
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: back on the officiating disappointment. I know you haven't seen it,

612
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: but here and they hold up their phone and there's

613
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: the Dort play.

614
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey Rick Jason Smith, hang on,

615
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I got I got a phone. Hang on, I'm sorry.

616
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: This is a Lonzo's home run against the Brewers. Hanging

617
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: let me find it all right, here you go, here

618
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: you go. Here's the lout Dort play. H what do you?

619
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: Just look at it and tell me what you think

620
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: of it? Right, just tell me you think just right now,

621
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: just right, just watch it. Everybody's okay with any thing.

622
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: Just watch it right hang sorry, hang on, hang on,

623
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: here's my password. Okay, here you're not now watch it

624
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: right there?

625
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: There you go, and if you if you don't want

626
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: to answer. Let me hook this up to your finger.

627
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: What's this. It's gonna check your pulse. Now, I'm gonna

628
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: show you that video again. And you don't not to

629
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: say a word, Rick, you don't have to say a

630
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: word because a picture's gonna be worth a thousand, a

631
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: thousand of them. And then you watch his heart rate accelerate.

632
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: It's like, say, Rick was not happy with the officiating people,

633
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: he was not happy. I have the results right here.

634
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, and this is how weird is this?

635
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Usually Rick Carlos complains about the officiating and I say, dude,

636
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: be quiet, shut up, what do you do. You're ridiculous.

637
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: You're just trying to sit here and play the game

638
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: and try to win. Win the referees over You're ridiculous.

639
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: Now Here, I am saying, Rick, what do you got, man,

640
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: you gotta have something. I can't believe they made those

641
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: calls into the game. And now he's saying, yeah, you

642
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: know they Hey, they made it tough on us at

643
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the end, and you know that we missed a couple

644
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: of free throats, Like hey, this is like Freaky Friday.

645
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: And like we're Lindsey Lohan and Jamie Lee Kerkz. We

646
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: banged heads and we suddenly changed bodies. I would have

647
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: liked it more if he'd say, sometimes you win, sometimes you.

648
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: You don't, although you know that, we would have really

649
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: switched bodies. If I'm saying this about Rick Carlyle and

650
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: they say to Rick Rica, what'd you think in the

651
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: fourth quarter?

652
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Speaker 3: What was the big key?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, I was the Mets had given up six

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Speaker 1: runs in the sixth inning of the Rays.

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Speaker 3: Paul Blackburn came in. He was terrible. I was kind

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Speaker 3: of watching that, so I didn't say it. I was

657
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Speaker 3: playing Candy Crush on my phone. I met no, come on,

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Speaker 3: I don't come on. I'm not Stephen A. Smith and

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Speaker 3: his way.

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Speaker 1: Well, then was that video of him playing playing Solitaire

661
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Speaker 1: while the game was going on, Like he's playing free

662
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Speaker 1: cell on his phone while the game is going on,

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Speaker 1: He's watching the key play free Cell.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to do the Daily Challenge. Come on to

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Speaker 3: the Daily Challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to win this number deal, all right, I

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00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: gotta try to get a queen to the to the

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Speaker 1: rack within seventy five moves.

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Speaker 3: I got I got some stuff to do here.

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Speaker 1: Man. I can't I.

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00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: Can't spend time watching the game. Somebody put that up

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Speaker 3: on Twitter. It's got two point three million views.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing is that look obviously it looks like

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Speaker 1: it's real. Right, it looks like it's really you think

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00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it is. But but you know, obviously that's something that

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Speaker 1: can be maneuvered around. But boy, it looks Wow. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, man, I mean that just that.

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Speaker 3: Optic of him. Wait from Steven A. Smith on Twitter.

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00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: Oh wait wait ready, yeah that's me. Who would have

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00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: thought I can multitask, especially during timeouts. Hope you all

682
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Speaker 3: enjoy the NBA Finals. Oh in seven games now, peeps. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: that's verified that. It's from his verified account.

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Speaker 1: And he actually put up a picture of the It's

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Speaker 1: like a picture and picture of him watching the game

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Speaker 1: with free Cell on top of it.

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Speaker 3: It's a good chess match, right, Oh it is him?

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I know it's him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So now I can say that's just ridiculous. Come on, man, you're.

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Speaker 1: At the game and you're watching it and you're playing

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Speaker 1: free Cell, right, you're playing. You're not talking to your

692
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: co you're not talking, you're predu like, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: you're playing I get once in a while, you check

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Speaker 1: your phone. Look, this is what life is now, man,

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00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I get it. You check your phone, you're talking to

696
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: somebody else, You're sending a text to a friend. I

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00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: get it. But now, but to go to the extent

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Speaker 1: of I'm gonna play free Cell in the Middle.

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Speaker 3: League, I think, come on, man, come on, that's how

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Speaker 3: you know you have inked a one hundred million dollar deal.

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00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: That is iron glass oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, locked in on fat side. That's a that's one

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00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar free cell game right there. That's that's

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Speaker 1: Steve and ay oh boy exit out about a Fresca

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: exit swollen dome. Time not to find out what's trending

706
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 1: in the wide world of sports from someone who's been

707
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: called the Jason Vorghes of Fox Sports Radio. At one

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: time we thought he was dead. We shot him off

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Speaker 1: into space.

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Speaker 3: And he came back. It's Steve to say, shot him

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Speaker 3: off in the space.

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Speaker 8: Was that what twelfth fourteenth movie?

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Speaker 3: Ten? Was Jason in Space? That was number ten?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I thought they'd run out of ideas.

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 8: After five, Oklahoma City took Game four. Who are the

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Speaker 8: NBA Finals coming back at Indiana one eleven to one

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Speaker 8: oh fourth under were down seven early in the fourth

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Speaker 8: quarter Game five, Ian Okac on Monday Night shake Giljis

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Speaker 8: Alexander thirty five points this evening, fifteen in the last

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Speaker 8: five minutes of the game. Jalen Williams with twenty seven

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Speaker 8: points by the way in the first five minutes, Pacers

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Speaker 8: scored twenty points. They had, as mentioned, the seven point

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Speaker 8: lead early in the fourth SGA with nine straight points

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Speaker 8: down the stretch for the winners. In the WNBA two games,

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Speaker 8: Atlanta now seven and three, beat Chicago eighty eight seventy.

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Speaker 8: Ryan Howard thirty six points from three point range. She

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Speaker 8: was nine of nineteen, and Dallas is now won and

728
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Speaker 8: eleven this season after losing a close one at Las

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Speaker 8: Vegas eighty eight eighty four. Page Beckers of Dallas to

730
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Speaker 8: have sixteen points. She had returned on Wednesday and scored

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Speaker 8: thirty five after missing four games due to concussion and illness.

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Speaker 8: Indiana's Caitlin Clark is due to return on Saturday after

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Speaker 8: missing five games with a string quad. Sam Burns leads

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Speaker 8: by one stroke at the US Open. The Giants have

735
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 8: tied the Dodgers for first place in the NLS San Diego,

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Speaker 8: still two back, Padres lost five to one at Arizona.

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Speaker 8: Giants were six two winners in La Logan Webb over

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Speaker 8: Yoshino Yamamoto. The Dodger losing pitcher allowed two early homers,

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Speaker 8: including a grand slam. The late games at Seattle. It's

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Speaker 8: now Mariners seven to over Cleveland in the bottom of

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Speaker 8: the eighth, already wins for Houston and the A's wins

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Speaker 8: for Atlanta and Texas. Milwaukee sent Saint Louis to a

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Speaker 8: six straight loss three to two, six straight losses for Washington.

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Speaker 8: Miami's beat them a long night with a long rain delay,

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Speaker 8: eleven nine Marlins the final. Boston in ten edged the

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Speaker 8: Yankees two to one, and Tampa Bay was a seven

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Speaker 8: to five winner at the Mets, who had won six straight.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll have more on Solitaire Gate coming up as we

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00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: continue to break down the NBA Finals. I mean, it

752
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: is just that is just absolutely I can't get over that.

753
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: I really can't get over that. Keep it right here.

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Happy Friday, the thirteenth. Jason and Mike Fox

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00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

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00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, eh, Tyja just loves that part too.

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00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: Killer.

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00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: The guy goes down the stairs forever.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome, It's a beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: Look a late breaking story in the last few minutes.

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Speaker 1: It now has millions of views on social media.

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Speaker 3: Steven A.

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Speaker 1: Smith on the set for ESPN tonight, you know, game

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Speaker 1: four of the NBA Finals, and there was a screen

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Speaker 1: grab taken of him from behind which shows him during

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Speaker 1: the game on his phone playing Solitaire. Wait wait what yeah?

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Speaker 3: This is during the gay Wait wait is this real?

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Speaker 3: This happened?

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00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: It was shared a lot, and Stephen A. Smith doubled

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: down on it a few minutes ago as Mike brought us.

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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: He went to his Twitter page said yep, that's me.

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Who knew I could multitask during timeouts?

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Speaker 3: And then he put up another.

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Speaker 1: Picture of a picture and picture of him watching the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals with Solitaire on the same screen. Right. Look,

780
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: very rarely do I like to talk about other talking

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00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: heads and other people who do stuff because everybody's got

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: their own thing, right, But this is, this is so

783
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: unbelievably this, this is so obtuse by Steven A. Smith,

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00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: even for him who has shown before. Hey, I don't

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: mind making news for showing I don't know what I'm

786
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: talking about. I don't know play. I didn't know that

787
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: this player hadn't been on the Chargers in six years.

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: I was still saying Dan Fouts is a great quarterback. Right,

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00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: But this is, yes, the way life goes now. People

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00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: check their phones all the time, right, It's one thing

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00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: to check your phone very quickly you need something. Look,

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00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Adam schefters And has made a cottage industry of being

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: on the set doing a segment on NFL Live. Right,

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: I gotta check my phone just because I gotta look busy. Right,

795
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: Everybody checks their phones. Everybody sends quick text while they're working.

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: Even Mike and I are doing things here. Hey, we

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: go into a break or something, Hey to send a

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00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: quick text, make a quick phone call. Look, that's what

799
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: life is, right, this is how it goes. But there's

800
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: a difference between I'm going to I'm sending I'm texting

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: with someone, or I'm on the internet to find something

802
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: out whatever. I want to find out the score of

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00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: another game or something else, or I am whatever it is, I'm.

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00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: Doing something quick on my phone.

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00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: There's a difference between that and just being apparently so

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00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: bored and unplugged that I'm gonna play Solitaire on my

807
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: phone right like I play Solitaire on my kindlele. I'm

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00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: watching TV during the day. If i'm if Fox sends

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: me to the bleep in NBA Finals, I'm not, and

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00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game that I know I'm gonna have

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: to talk about after. There's certain things that I know

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00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do, and playing playing a video

813
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: game my phone is one of them. But that clearly

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: shows you that, Look, I don't care. I'm bored and

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00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: this game can't hold my attention. Because even if he's

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00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: right when he's saying, it's during a time out. Okay,

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00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: this is why I got to run to my phone

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00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: to play a game while there's a time out on

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Speaker 1: the floor. Oh sorry, I have to watch I have

820
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: to go play Solitaire. Oh I'm so I can't wait,

821
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: because Solitaire is this new game sweeping the nation, right,

822
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: like I can't this brand new game solitary play with

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00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: a deck of cards and you do a red card

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00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and a blackguard and a red card to blacker. This

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00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Like, that's so, that's so insulting. It's so

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00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: insulting to ESPN, it's insulting to the NBA Finals. It's

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00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: insulting to people who do what he does for a living.

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00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: It's insulting to the fans. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a

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00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: highly paid broadcaster and I can't be I can't be

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00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: even counted on to just not do something embarrassing like

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Speaker 1: play a video game. Right, How would you feel like

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: if your kids in school and they're supposed to be

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00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: learning and they're playing a game on their phone, you're

834
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Speaker 1: mad at them, you know, Hey, listen, you can't do that.

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Speaker 3: That's what.

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Speaker 1: No, no, But I don't care because I'm teflon. I

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Speaker 1: have a huge contract, and people pay attention to me.

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: Whether I say things that that make sense or say

839
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: things that make no sense, what do I care? And

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm so unplugged from the situation that it really doesn't

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: matter to me. I'm gonna go play Solitaire on my phone.

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00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: It's so unbelievably insulting to so many people.

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00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Somebody wrote, f yi, I can't check my phone because

844
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Speaker 3: it's a rotary phone. I know, well played still waiting. No, look,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a terrible look, whether it's in a time

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00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: out or not. But again that's the to the victor

847
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: goes to spoils. It's like SGA getting a call that

848
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: you could argue is a should be an offensive fall

849
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: and a push off. Well, star rules right. In this case,

850
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: It's been proven time and again. You can change players,

851
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: change them back to teams they played on a deck

852
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: day to go, change which players they are quarterbacking or

853
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: maybe shooting a jump shot, and it really hasn't mattered.

854
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: If anything, it's helped fuel the beast that exists. So

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00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: why stop now. I do like the fact that it

856
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: wasn't ai or photoshopped. They say, oh, I gotcha. I mean,

857
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: it's not know what Carlisle gave us. Carlisle gave us nothing.

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00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh wonderful tonight. It was all great and it was

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00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: our guys. I mean, really, we just didn't execute. Well, no,

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00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: give me some fire at least Steve and I went

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Speaker 3: my bad.

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00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: Sorry, I know you want to know what happened At

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00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: the six minute mark of the fourth quarter. But that's

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Speaker 1: where I was. I was so close. I only had

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Speaker 1: else can talk about it. Ah, what do I care.

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Speaker 1: Barkley and Shock and everyone. They're showing up next year.

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