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Speaker 1: So how does the White House handle all this stuff?

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Speaker 1: How do they try to explain to the American people

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Speaker 1: because at some level both sides, Democrat and Republican, recognize

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Speaker 1: right away under certain circumstances. So you still have five

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Speaker 1: But let's start Charlie with the Hunter Biden laptop situation.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they've done they've done such an effective

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation wasn't about charity. It wasn't effective altruism, which

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Speaker 1: CEO of MS Communications. He's got a brand new book,

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Speaker 1: my little stack of stuff for us to look at

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Speaker 1: stories that I think he might be interested in. And

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Speaker 1: So what snrdly do you want to be? Well? I

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Speaker 1: and this was flipped to the back page, the sports page,

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Speaker 1: and Bo Jackson had done something or another that earned

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Speaker 1: was it. Little did I know that thirty three years

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Speaker 1: I love it. And that's how that happened. At least,

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's one of the greatest athletes of all time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a bad motivation. When I hear

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Speaker 1: your name. The first thing I would think of is

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, So that makes complete connection for many people

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Speaker 1: out there. I think, yeah, Bo knows right, Yeah, botos all.

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Speaker 1: You know, James Russia always said, as long as I'm here,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where here is That said him for

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks. Gonna ring a little different now.

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Speaker 1: But the book you've written is a way of keeping

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Speaker 1: him here, isn't it. I mean, what do you want

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Speaker 1: this audience to take from it? What do you want

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Speaker 1: them to know about the man that so many of

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Speaker 1: the people listening across the country right now remember listening

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Speaker 1: to and having as a close friend and advocate, a

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Speaker 1: confidante for in some cases thirty years. What I would

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Speaker 1: like is for this just to be just the beginning

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Speaker 1: for all of us. You know, Rush was, too many

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Speaker 1: of us a hero, and he will be a hero

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Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. He had a special

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Speaker 1: place that no other broadcaster, no other media personality had

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Speaker 1: because he transcended a person on the radio. He became

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Speaker 1: part of your life. He became part of your family.

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Speaker 1: He was part of your day every day. And what

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Speaker 1: I want more than anything else is for this just

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Speaker 1: to be the beginning. People in this audience have their

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Speaker 1: own stories and they should tell those stories. We should

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Speaker 1: see movies, we should see people writing about Rush from

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Speaker 1: now on, because we have to define our heroes. We

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Speaker 1: have to define those. We cannot let a hateful political

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Speaker 1: left to find who Russia Limbaugh is for history. It

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Speaker 1: is our job to make sure that the proper story

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Speaker 1: about who Russell Limbaugh is and what he achieved is

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Speaker 1: told from this day forward. That's our job. James Golden,

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Speaker 1: the book is Rush on the Radio. A tribute from

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Speaker 1: his sidekick for thirty years. James, I appreciate you, Clay,

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Speaker 1: the whole team here and everyone listening across the country

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Speaker 1: for all you've done. And best of luck with the book.

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Speaker 1: I'll be getting to copy myself. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and again such a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. My brother David, well known author and agent

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Speaker 1: for many high foluting personalities and celebrities as well as lawyer,

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Speaker 1: and he is the author of this, probably of the

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Speaker 1: book that he was intended to write his whole life.

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Speaker 1: That's the one who's been building up to. Welcome back in.

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Speaker 1: You just heard Russia Limbau. They're bringing us in and

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Speaker 1: We are indeed about to be joined by David Limbaugh.

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Speaker 1: His new book is The Resurrected Jesus. It's the latest

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Speaker 1: book in David's Jesus series, explores the Church in the

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Speaker 1: New Testament. David, you wrote the book with your daughter Kristen.

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Speaker 1: I believe, who's the oldest of your five kids. So congrats.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was a really cool experience. But we

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Speaker 1: thought we'd let Rush have the honor of asking the

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Speaker 1: first question of you. If I may say, folks, this

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Speaker 1: book is. It's rewarding, it is confidence inspiring, it's heartwarming,

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Speaker 1: and it's impossible to explain it in a half hour

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Speaker 1: on the radio. It's an amazing piece of work. This

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Speaker 1: is a pretty risky subject. You're dealing with people's faith here,

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Speaker 1: and in many cases, faith is all people have to

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Speaker 1: sustain them. One of the refrains is that it can't

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Speaker 1: be proved. That's the test. So why do you decide

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Speaker 1: to do it? Why do you decide to write the book?

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Speaker 1: Am IQ up here now? Yes, thanks for having me

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Speaker 1: on you guys, And Rush was referring to my first

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Speaker 1: Christian book, Jesus on Trial. This book is the fifth

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Speaker 1: in the series and as you guys mentioned, I co

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Speaker 1: wrote this with my daughter Christin Bloom and it is

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Speaker 1: about the last book. Jesus's Risen was about Paul's about

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Speaker 1: the Book of Acts, the history of the early Church,

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Speaker 1: and Paul's first six epistles. This book is The Resurrect

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Speaker 1: of Jesus, is about Paul's final seven epistles, his prison

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Speaker 1: epistles that he wrote while in prison in Rome under

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Speaker 1: house arrest, and three of them are the pastoral epistles

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Speaker 1: he wrote to his colleagues and understudies. We wrote these books.

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Speaker 1: I have written these books and now in writing this

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Speaker 1: with Christin to bring people closer to the Bible, to

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Speaker 1: go through the Bible, these books of the Bible, chapter

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Speaker 1: and verse and help people understand intersperse commentary and insight

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Speaker 1: on a lay level. We don't have theology or doctrinal

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Speaker 1: degrees in biblical studies, but I believe that I was

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Speaker 1: situated where new believers are our skeptics are, and I

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Speaker 1: wish someone would have written these kinds of books for me.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to help other people, and so

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Speaker 1: does christ. And we also add interactive prayers that Kristen

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Speaker 1: primarily wrote. In addition to your contributions to the text

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Speaker 1: that we believe helped people interact with the text and

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Speaker 1: with scripture. The ultimate goal is to inspire people to

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Speaker 1: go to the Word of God, the Bible itself. Speaking

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Speaker 1: to David Limbaugh, a brother of Rush, his latest book

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Speaker 1: is The Resurrected Jesus and David Rush often spoke about

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Speaker 1: your books over the years, and I know you talked

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Speaker 1: to him about it on air many times, and one

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Speaker 1: thing that he often pointed out was how easy your

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Speaker 1: books are. You mentioned this for layman to read and digest,

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Speaker 1: because this can be pretty intimidating, pretty heavy subject matter,

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Speaker 1: right him, in faith and God and our relationship with

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. You yourself were a former skeptic. How did

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Speaker 1: you arrive where you are today in terms of your

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Speaker 1: belief and the desire you have to share that belief

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Speaker 1: with others. Well, we don't have time for me to

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Speaker 1: it by saying that I was a skeptic and then

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Speaker 1: I started studying the Bible. I was introduced to the

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Speaker 1: Bible being the inspired word of God. All the Bible

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Speaker 1: is God breathed. It's inerrant. Despite what people say about

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Speaker 1: the alleged contradictions. But once I realized through studying the

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Speaker 1: Biblical prophecies and other proofs or Christianity's truth, I was

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Speaker 1: convinced that I was holding in my hands the Word

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Speaker 1: of God. And that was an epiphany. That was a

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Speaker 1: goosepun up experience, because before I just thought the Bible

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Speaker 1: it was nothing as special as I ultimately came to believe.

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Speaker 1: When I realized I was holding the Word of God

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Speaker 1: in my hand, that God is directly speaking to me

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Speaker 1: and anyone else who reads it, it blew me away.

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Speaker 1: And so I developed a voracious pattern of reading as

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Speaker 1: primarily because I came from a perspective of doubt. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to address people who were intimidated by the

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Speaker 1: might be inspired to read it themselves. And if they

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Speaker 1: do read it themselves, and they haven't found God, they

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Speaker 1: will find God. They will find Jesus Christ. And if

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Speaker 1: they have found God and they're still intimidated, if they

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Speaker 1: learn a little bit about the Bible, and we hope

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Speaker 1: we can help them overcome some of this intimidation, then

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Speaker 1: to them in their lives and it will change their

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Speaker 1: lives dramatically. David, you have five kids. My middle son, sorry,

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Speaker 1: turned twelve today, so he had a celebration this morning

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Speaker 1: for him. Your oldest helped write this book with you

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Speaker 1: as a parent. I imagine that had to be an

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Speaker 1: incredible experience. Also, the first book you've published since Rush passed.

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Speaker 1: What did you find the writing experience to be like

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Speaker 1: with your daughter as a parent, and also what was

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Speaker 1: writing a book like post Rush for the first time?

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Speaker 1: Did that feel different? Yes? Well, I asked Kristen to

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Speaker 1: prayer warrior, and I wanted to add a lot of

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Speaker 1: prayers in this book. I hadn't done that before. And

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Speaker 1: she's so good at this, and she's so good at writing.

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Speaker 1: She's right top eds for Fox News on this Christian themes,

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Speaker 1: and so when I answer, she was elated, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: how gratifying it would be to be able to work

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Speaker 1: with one of my kids on a book she loves writing.

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Speaker 1: Give her a jump start into book writing. The Resurrected

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Speaker 1: Jesus is the book. David Lambaugh. David, please come back again.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you spending some time with us today

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Speaker 1: and best of luck with the book. Thank you, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys carrying the tarts