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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, girl, let your feet move free, cause you

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Speaker 2: moved to the groove of Vanilla Ice. You come here

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Speaker 2: to rock and let the white boy rap. If you

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Speaker 2: a hoe, get off my lap. Because Ice stands for

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Speaker 2: being so cold. That's a nickname I got for being

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Speaker 2: so bold. Jerome stands for MPa, my personal assistant every day.

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Speaker 3: I'm not an.

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Speaker 2: MCU who comes here to play yo boy, I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: I'm going on the way. Hey, welcome to the Blackout

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Speaker 2: Test podcast your house, Rod, And.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not like an old school rep right

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Speaker 1: there who wrote that.

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Speaker 3: Vanilla ICEE said it in the second line of the round.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about to say, yeah, that sounded like a

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Speaker 4: very old school I mean, I know Vanilla Ice, but

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Speaker 4: you know, just that catus is just that really slowcateds

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Speaker 4: where you know, you penunciated your words very clearly and

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Speaker 4: everybody understood what you were saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was talking about Jerome, his assistant. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty It's about as white as you can get

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Speaker 2: it is, I mean, rapping about your assistant. That was

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Speaker 2: the second verse of go ill.

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Speaker 4: M h.

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Speaker 3: I probably had thrown the tape into the trash by this.

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Speaker 1: Point, but oh yeah, yeah, just that beef.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if probably made it to this so

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Speaker 1: No, I hadn't make it to the song. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: tapped that way before this.

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Speaker 4: I you know, when an ice ice baby I was

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Speaker 4: out either actually probably ain't known the city.

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Speaker 3: I walked the walking I want to make sure passing

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Speaker 3: us talking, I found to a pot of way humping

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Speaker 3: the lage or see the bottom of walk the trail

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Speaker 3: and walk the math on the street.

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Speaker 5: Walk to walk.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day when you had to rap, you

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Speaker 3: have to spell your name a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the V, the A, N, I, L L A.

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Speaker 1: Nowadays be like how do you spell that? What's the day?

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Speaker 1: Who is that?

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Speaker 2: A lot of spelling the fill up bars. Back in

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Speaker 2: the day, they don't do it so much, you know.

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Speaker 2: Now you know, you don't really hear songs. But it's

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Speaker 2: like the D are, the A, the K, the E.

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Speaker 2: It's straking them on the you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because I don't think a lot of them know

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Speaker 1: people don't care. People like who is that? I don't

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Speaker 2: You also can't do that anymore, just have like two

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Speaker 2: dudes in the background saying the same thing over and over.

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Speaker 2: Uh that those days ago, like you used to go

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Speaker 2: cheaply make a course. Now you gotta go hire an

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, we got Jenny Ako doing motherfucking

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Speaker 2: uh the chorus to my song.

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Speaker 3: I had to fly her out from Brazil or some ship.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't just have two dudes that hang out with

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Speaker 3: Now Rod Gone now rock Gone.

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Speaker 4: Now rock.

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Speaker 1: Album.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that ship is done.

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Speaker 6: She come here.

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Speaker 3: Let the white girl wrap your home.

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Speaker 2: Get off my I for being, that's for being. If

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Speaker 2: you're a hole, get off of his lap. But what

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like that's true?

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Speaker 2: What kind of girls of Vanilla Ice really into letting

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. And if I'm a whole,

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Speaker 1: ain't My job is to get you to separate from

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Speaker 2: I'm not for this is my favorite line. Jerome stand

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Speaker 2: for m p A, my personal assistant? Why did this

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Speaker 3: Oh? This is pre serri this is the this is.

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Speaker 2: Of course, but this has got to be the whitest

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Speaker 2: rap ever, like no, no black apple or whatever, like

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Speaker 2: this stands for my m p A, my personal assistant,

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Speaker 1: That's what I had to say because people are like,

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Speaker 1: what the hell did that? He make up a new acronymic.

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Speaker 2: Right at Doris, it's my house, clean up her daughter

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Speaker 2: named Nina.

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Speaker 1: I'm not come here to the play.

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Speaker 7: I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: I'm going on the blade bomb clean, I'm going on

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Speaker 3: I'm lett him off kill.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every black dude that hung out with

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Speaker 2: him was secretly laughing at how wack this ship was.

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh my god, he isn't there rapping again.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. Why didn't y'all tell him it was bad?

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Speaker 2: As long as he keep buying the weed, it's cool, man. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll get in there and go our park.

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Speaker 3: Go, I'll go it hold up. I watched the mic

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Speaker 7: When I see one, I gotta have it out.

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Speaker 3: Whip off the sound, let the first.

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Speaker 6: Yours on what you're going to?

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Speaker 8: The places on.

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Speaker 2: Fifty and do care what the dude shaking your limbs.

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Speaker 7: Until they wept in I'm watch the watch sons.

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Speaker 2: This this, This is one thing I do miss about Rapp.

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Speaker 2: Like he's bragging how much he can make you dance

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Speaker 2: like now everybody's bragging on how much they'll kill you,

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Speaker 2: how much you ain't ship. They're fuck your girl, you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no money. They got all the money. Like

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Speaker 2: nobody really gets on the mic anymore. It's like, and

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Speaker 2: I'll make you move to a stone groove. Like nobody's

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Speaker 2: gonna say that ship anymore because it's through corny.

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Speaker 1: Not only that back then, years ago, people dance.

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Speaker 4: Now, when you go to a lot of parties, they

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Speaker 4: stand on the wall and look at each other, and

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Speaker 4: you're like, this is not a fucking party to me

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Speaker 4: to stand around. If I want to stand around, look

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Speaker 4: So much mistaking it.

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Speaker 7: But I'm the diamond, I'm the walk to the hall

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Speaker 7: when on call.

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Speaker 3: You watch the fop horns.

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Speaker 1: This is definitely two of his high boys and they get.

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Speaker 4: In the mood and.

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Speaker 9: Fly bom.

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Speaker 10: What the boys.

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Speaker 8: Scream?

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Speaker 3: None of those lines with each other.

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Speaker 1: But he didn't care.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna spew that slime kick a rhyme. It's a crime.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: That it doesn't even matter in his mind. He's trying

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Speaker 9: So that's all of that in the mood that don't

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Speaker 7: What you boys?

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Speaker 1: I'm baked? You scream like.

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Speaker 1: Buildings?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, no eye contact, no chewing gum, and

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Speaker 2: enjoyment of white people. They called the skit the twenty

444
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: fourteen version of the minstrel Street uh, and they were

445
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: not kidding. I started to make a counterpoint but decided

446
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 2: that those niggas were not worth a response.

447
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: I just don't live live a value. I just don't

448
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: let wait.

449
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: I just don't evaluate every decision in my life based

450
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: on how it will be perceived by white people. Lastly,

451
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: when Keno was naming categories, he almost said if that

452
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: was a nigga instead of if that was me, but

453
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: he caught himself. Imagine what would happen if he would

454
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: have slipped. That would have been funny. But uh, yeah, man,

455
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: I you know, I think, you know, the skit was funny.

456
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: I did too, so you know, I get that not

457
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna agree, but.

458
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do?

459
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, like, uh, you don't have to

460
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: agree with me, and we don't have to see.

461
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 3: How to do on that.

462
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: But I thought it was really really good, very funny.

463
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 2: I think people get a little bit too caught up

464
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: in respectability politics and this idea that black people need

465
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: to be a monolith and we need to always present

466
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 2: our best, most respectable view of ourselves in public because yeah, issues,

467
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: because god forbid anyone laugh at us, or that we

468
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: be the butt of any joke, or God forbid that

469
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: we talk about race at all, because the white man

470
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: might be looking and we should all be ashamed of ourselves.

471
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't subscribe to that, you know.

472
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: I think our culture, like any other culture, is multifaceted.

473
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: We have some things that we can laugh at, and

474
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that we're bad people. It doesn't mean

475
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: that Like That's like I think, if your idea of

476
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: black entertainment is this that always has to be some

477
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: type of lesson a message around it, then you're not

478
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: really about equality either, and in many ways you feel

479
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: that our culture and our people are inferior. If your whole,

480
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: your some, if your your total opinion of us is

481
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: sh don't talk about that because white people might be listening,

482
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: then you think our culture is imperior, inferior, you're ashamed

483
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: of us, and I can't.

484
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: I can't deal with that.

485
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: I can't either.

486
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: And also it's one of those things to where it's

487
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 4: funny as long as it's internal, Like internally we can

488
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 4: pick and joke and laugh and talk about the issues,

489
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 4: but don't you they'll take this outside our community. It's

490
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: like a lot of the jokes we have are based

491
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: in facts and realities about some really really fucked up shit.

492
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: And it's just one of those things where even though

493
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: it's in a joking manner, these are still real issues

494
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: that need to be talked about in address and you

495
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 4: and just because it's not in a.

496
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: Black power fist up afro you know, type of.

497
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: Angry rage manner, it don't mean it can't be discussed

498
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: through a jokeful manner and not have an issue with that.

499
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very weird that people. I just think you're

500
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: not my type of person. If your whole thing is,

501
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: how can I stop the fud on this or have

502
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: we thought about why this is funny and should we

503
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: be laughing?

504
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm just not that kind of person.

505
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: If you want to have a serious discussion about societal ills,

506
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: we can separate that from humor.

507
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: And also, I just didn't feel the skit was that embarrassing.

508
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: And the other thing I don't like is black people

509
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: want to have it both ways. It's another example of

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: us trying to catch trying to get the benefits of everything.

511
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: You get mad you boycott's show, Get you bitch about

512
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: the fact that, hey, they don't have any black people

513
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: on the show. They get a black woman on the show.

514
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: Now they have a few black males, they have a

515
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: black woman. They write a skit about the experience of

516
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: color using you know, probably written by the two black

517
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: writers that they just hired for the first time ever,

518
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: two black female writers, and you got shit on that too,

519
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: because how dare we do that? Whereas if this was

520
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: on in living color, you guys would have had no

521
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: problem with it. You know, if this has set you

522
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: the entertainer skit, you guys would have had no problem

523
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: with it. But yet, somehow, because it's one SNL it

524
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: changes completely, you know, which is just another part of

525
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: this you know, weird ass shifting culture that people are

526
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: trying to force upon everybody that I'm just not playing.

527
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 3: I'm fighting against.

528
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't like this idea that only certain people can

529
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: make certain jokes, only certain audiences can get certain jokes,

530
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,239
Speaker 2: and only uh and only a comedy only counts if

531
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: it's from certain people about certain issues. Fuck that. If

532
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: it's funny, it's funny. The ship was funny, deal with it,

533
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: or watch something else, you know, pick up the remote.

534
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 3: You know you're not gonna get S and L canceled. Nothing.

535
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: Nothing can get them canceled. Bad ratings can get them canceled.

536
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: For years.

537
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, your Twitter campaign is not gonna be the one

538
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: to do it. But if that makes you feel better,

539
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: go go do that. Leana rights in So, I was

540
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: one of the individuals who jumped on the hashtag I

541
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: stay with Suie Park hashtag. I was react more to

542
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: the racism, death threats, and rape threats that were being

543
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: thrown her way. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think everybody

544
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: was against that. Right after reading articles of seeing her

545
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: real position on hashtag cancel Cobert Trade I feel like

546
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 2: I've been played big time. Yeah, there's another article that

547
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: came out with someone like interviewed her. It's honestly too

548
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: long to read, but she comes off like a five percenter,

549
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: And if you haven't had any experience with a five percenter,

550
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: they're basically the dudes who get high outside of your

551
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: dorm room and talk about the government and racism and

552
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: experience and then try to sell you some snag champa

553
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: or some black line incense two for a dollar before

554
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: you could leave. But like it was, she just sounds

555
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: like and I'm not trying to joke. I'm not I'm

556
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: really not even making a joke here, and I honestly

557
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm not a psychologist or nothing. I'm I don't know,

558
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: but just in my personal experience, she just sounds like

559
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: somebody that might need help, you know what I mean,

560
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: somebody that probably needs to like sit down and talk

561
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: to somebody or be on be medicated or something. Because

562
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: like she was doing that thing where her quotes were

563
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: all over the place, and it was not like this

564
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: person has some type of agenda where it's like, now

565
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: let me make her look stupid.

566
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: Like these are.

567
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: Big, huge blocks of text where it's like, clearly she

568
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: let this woman speak for a while and she would

569
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: change topics, she would be completely like contradicting herself, and

570
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: it was you know, I don't want say insaying, I

571
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: don't want to throw that around, but I just think

572
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: that she sounded like somebody that was not.

573
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: She was not.

574
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Able to be. She wasn't.

575
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: She had no self awareness of the fact that, like

576
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying doesn't make sense sometimes, and I think,

577
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 2: you know, when you don't have that a lot of times,

578
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, those are people that might have some sort

579
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: of issue where you're just like okay. And it's funny

580
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: because people feed into this stuff, because these hashtags can

581
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: be empowering. There's a ton of camaraderie built around this

582
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: social media. Nobody wants to bring that part up. I

583
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: bring it up all the time, but you know the

584
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: same way, I feel awesome when you guys use our

585
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: hashtag to talk about our show.

586
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: I think it's sweet, it's dope.

587
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, people are sitting around here like I'm enjoying

588
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: this show hashtag and it's like I have a column

589
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: on my tweet that where I can see that. Well,

590
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: there's a lot of camaraderie built around that, Hey, what

591
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: is TVGWT?

592
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: What is this podcast?

593
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 7: You know?

594
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: Okay?

595
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: Or hey, you're using the hashtag I saw someone retweet it,

596
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm using it. I didn't know you listened to the show.

597
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Now that can be a friendship built the What's very similar,

598
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: except people are playing this with politics and now it's

599
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: I stay with so and so a hashtag, cancel this, hashtag, this,

600
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: that or the other, and people are building and bonding friendships.

601
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: Well that's awesome, But there's also the downside of that,

602
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: which is, at what point does the social aspect of

603
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: social media you overtake the activism part of it, and

604
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: you just go, well, I don't care if it's a goof,

605
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't care if she's wrong.

606
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't care if she if I disagree with her.

607
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: If all my friends are using the hashtag, I gotta

608
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: use the hashtag and I'll come up with a way

609
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: to explain it later. Yeah, you know, that's what I

610
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: feel like. It happened where a lot of people went, oh,

611
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: she wasn't serious, and they just got real quiet because

612
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: how dare they speak out against her, or how dare

613
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: they say she played us? Or how dare they say

614
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: anything negative because they've been shitting on anyone who had

615
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: any questions about this woman for the better part of

616
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: a week now, so they can't turn around and do

617
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: it themselves us they would feel like hypocrites.

618
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: But to me, they look like hypocrites for always.

619
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Wanting to ride on somebody but not being like, okay, sweet,

620
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: that was kind of fucked up.

621
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, and.

622
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: Just yeah, And it's just one of those things that

623
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: I guess for me, the problem that I have with

624
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 4: it is said it's obvious, and she said that there's

625
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: things wrong with her, and there could be people that have.

626
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, mental issues.

627
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: And have all these things going on that can have

628
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: logical thought processes and can uh stand behind their perspective.

629
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: It makes sense.

630
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: But she's already came out and says, well, I just

631
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: say fucked up ship, just because the crazier I act,

632
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: the more attention I know is gonna get me.

633
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: But she's already said she really.

634
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: Don't give a fuck about what she's putting out in

635
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: an atmosphere and what she's saying. And so then you

636
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: put microphones in the face, you interview her, and she

637
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: just comes out even.

638
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: It just shows why how can I say it?

639
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: When you do this, it just confirms in me the

640
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: fact that I think that she is uh has mental

641
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: capabilities and capabilities mental mental issues, and it's just one

642
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: of those things, like you say, in her mind, she

643
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: can't see how what she's saying did all this damage

644
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: out into social media. But in her mind it wasn't

645
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: a big thing. And when if you can't connect that

646
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: to something wrong.

647
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: And more telling to me, isn't even the fact that

648
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: she's kind of off of it a little bit or

649
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: she's more of a provocateur than a nactual activist. I mean, yes,

650
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's so like to me, the article

651
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: is so full of like self aggrandizement, Like for like,

652
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: if this is Kanye West, all these people that are

653
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: supported her would be like fuck this person there, they're

654
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: full of themselves. But because she's a young woman, it's

655
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: like this is awesome, we're feminists, yay. But I literally

656
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: have people arguing with me this week then that would

657
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: say I don't know what she's trying to say, like

658
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: they would be if she if she's saying what I

659
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: think she might be trying to say, you don't even

660
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: know and that's my only point.

661
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: That's not effective communication.

662
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: And it's not like any true activists would do this,

663
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: like Martin Luther King never boycotted the bus line on

664
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: the goof hey, guys, I was just fucking around. That

665
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: bus is actually okay. I'm a fan of that bus.

666
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I take that bus every day. I just wanted to

667
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: see if y'all can understand the context of hyperbole, you know.

668
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: And she said I called four friends and told them

669
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to hype perbole this or whatever that's supposed

670
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: to mean. And it's like, I didn't see four people

671
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: online fighting. I saw a ton of people and they didn't.

672
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: They weren't. They weren't taking it as hyperbole.

673
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: No, and they probably still fighting to today.

674
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and nobody read read these read these other articles.

675
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: Nobody paid any attention. It was like, I'm taking this

676
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: and not running with it. But yet when people read

677
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: these articles and educate themselves and try to find out

678
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: what they were, what she's talking about, you have other

679
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: people argument that did you read the articles? No, with

680
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: then why the fuck are we talking? Did you know? Know?

681
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: And you're like, this is a not This conversation is

682
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: going nowhere because obviously you don't care anything about the fact.

683
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: So while we talking yeah.

684
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: And just you know, when you start throwing around you

685
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: know who cares about context and shit like that, it's like, well,

686
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: can I honestly support this bullshit?

687
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: You know who cares? What I care about context?

688
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: Everybody does it kind of humor, And then she started

689
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: talking about she's a comedian, like this is a ton

690
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: of stuff where it just keeps looking worse and worse.

691
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: And I want to give it props to Lena because

692
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: she's one of the only people I actually saw go yeah,

693
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: I was riding for her and now this is not

694
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: like I feel kind of played, And I think if

695
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: more people are willing to admit that, I actually would

696
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: be cooler with more people. But instead I just kind

697
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: of wrote a lot of people off this week where

698
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck does it take? Because to me,

699
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: you might as well be a goddamn Republican if this

700
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: is the level of like riding for some idiocy that

701
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: you got like this, because Republicans do this shit all

702
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: the time. When a coacher says something so goddamn ridiculous

703
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: and you're like, obviously, no one's gonna defend this right,

704
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: and then you see people just go, you know, I

705
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: just have nothing to say about it. I mean, it's

706
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: not my place. And you're like, but then it's your

707
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: place to call out. You thought it was your place

708
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: to call out Colbert. You thought it was your place

709
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: to call out other people that are Republicans on Twitter.

710
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 3: You think it's your place to call out Fox News.

711
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: You think it's your place to do all this other shit,

712
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: to harass Gop black Chick, to go after Ashley be

713
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: or whatever. But then when it comes to some shit

714
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: like this where if you're a real friend to somebody

715
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: it's okay to tell them they're wrong in my opinion,

716
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: and you're like, it's not my place, then fuck you.

717
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: You're not really a friend anyway.

718
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

719
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: I don't want a friend like that. I like my

720
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: friends to be people that are like, yeah, when you

721
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: said this, what did you mean? We could actually have

722
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: a conversation about it, and if they think I'm wrong,

723
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: we can both even if we disagree, we can both

724
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: come to a conclusion like, Okay, we disagree about that,

725
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna throw you into trash, but we don't agree.

726
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I guess for me personally mean you

728
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 4: have talked about this. I'm getting to the point now

729
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 4: that when I see those hashtags, I'm just gonna let

730
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: them float down my timeline.

731
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Shit, I'm muting them.

732
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking, like I don't if they're involved

733
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: in that shit, I don't want to see it. Like

734
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: I've already I've already taken some steps on my social

735
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: media to get those people up out of my timeline

736
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: where I don't see them, but I'm taking it the

737
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: extra step. If I do see that kind of idiocy

738
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: caroling up again, I'm done with it. Online advocacy seems

739
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: like pass once you start seeing people campaigning just for

740
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: the idea of campaigning. I can't keep going with it

741
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: because now I'm enabling you, you know, like I need

742
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: to know that when I see this shit on my timeline,

743
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: if you want to fashion yourself as some type of activist,

744
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: that it actually has meaning behind it. And when someone

745
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: says something like no, I've been using you for a week,

746
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: I need to see you go, yeah, that's fucked up, man,

747
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: don't do that. Instead, it's popularity games. I just want

748
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: to be popular, like it's fucking high school. So I'm

749
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: not gonna say anything to you. Shit, if I want

750
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: a high school, I can go hang out of the

751
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: high school. You know, I'm a grown ass adult. I'm

752
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: out of high school now. I'm done with high school

753
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: antics lead that shit behind, you know.

754
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and this one of those things. It makes

755
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: me mad, It makes me in said that.

756
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't support it no more because it's

757
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 4: one of those things where, especially if it's something behind

758
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: that I believe and I stand for, and you be like,

759
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 4: you know what I was joking?

760
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: Fuck you?

761
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, she says, after reading articles and seeing her

762
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: real position on cancel Corbert training, I kind of I

763
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: feel like I've been played big time. While I don't

764
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: support those who want to silence and threaten their voice, obviously,

765
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't support people who manipulate others so cavalierly.

766
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: That's my point, you know what I mean?

767
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: Like, why can't I bring up this side and not

768
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: be lumped in with rapists and murderers and shit, why

769
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: can't I just go, hey, I don't think people should

770
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: be threatening her, But I also don't think I need

771
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: to have to listen to her or support her or

772
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: be like, well, she's just twenty three.

773
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't have to do any of that.

774
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: It's not my responsibility to give her a platform. It's

775
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: sophomore and reckless at the very least, lesson learned. Twitter

776
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: may bring the light issues that aren't mentioned in the

777
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: mainstream media. Hashtag activists are bullshit prima donnas who are

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: piggybacking on serious causes and derailing them to gain more

779
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: followers and attention. I can't support anybody who styles themselves

780
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: as such. Yeah if like honestly, man, the more I

781
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: see of it, the more I'm leaning towards Okay, this

782
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: ain't about any cause.

783
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 3: It's more about you, your brand and your profile.

784
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's what's gonna get

785
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: me on MSNBC, what's gonna get me writing writing posts

786
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: or articles or editorials for different sites. And once they

787
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: get that, they're satisfied.

788
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. And there are some people out there who I

789
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: see who do this, and they are reasonable, they're rational,

790
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: they're logical and okay. But for the most part, most

791
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: of us like that. And because a lot of people

792
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: it's not about their causes. It's more about being famous.

793
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: You know what, I think about a lot when this

794
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: shit goes down man, And you know, I never really

795
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: say much because she doesn't say much. But I think

796
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: about Jiven from Harnom, you know, like she really in

797
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: these streets doing shit. I don't see her on Twitter

798
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: just running out there. And obviously you know she she

799
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: said when she was on our show, like hey, and

800
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: back in my day, I used to go out there

801
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: and just kind of rob rod. So maybe it's because

802
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: she's like more calm down the ship, but.

803
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: I was probably because she's more busy. She actually has

804
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: ship to do.

805
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she like, she know, a hashtag not gonna

806
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: actually solve these issues, so she's got to actually get

807
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: out there and put in the man power work, you know.

808
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: I think.

809
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: I think that's somebody that I'm always kind of like

810
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on. And when you see, you know,

811
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: all these hashtags shit, you don't see her in the

812
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: middle of that shit trying to get a whole Well,

813
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: let's retweet this.

814
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: A million times. She's like, man, what the fuck is

815
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: that gonna do?

816
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: I got to go out here and really talk to

817
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 4: a mother or a child or something like that.

818
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Y'all can do that, you know, but as far.

819
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 4: As I'm concerned, I got to do this and it's

820
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 4: one of those things where the definition of activists has changed.

821
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 4: And I think the and I guess the old school

822
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: definition of activists action is in that, and the new

823
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: school definition of activists is action in that.

824
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: But the action is not the same.

825
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Action is hitting in her?

826
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Yes, Kyle says Suiey Park versus Lupe Fiasco in a

827
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: debate for the Ages.

828
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: How many buzzwords will get thrown around? Yeah, that's the

829
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: other thing.

830
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: When I was reading her the latest article involving her,

831
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: it was amazing because I swear like every three sentences

832
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: at least she hits a buzzword. It's crazy like listening

833
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: to this one. So what do you want from this conversation?

834
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: I want to hit the irony and inability of the

835
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: left to deal with their own racism. I think as

836
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: a result of the white ally industrial complex.

837
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: What is the white ally does the action?

838
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

839
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: What? Like?

840
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: This literally sounds like some of five percenter will say

841
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: industrial complex of the white out. So now they've industrialized it,

842
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: monetized it, and now it's white people getting paid to

843
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: be allies. Well, somebody tell Tim Wise to calm the

844
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 2: fuck down because he's getting paid a little too much,

845
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: and you know, it's all organized from the top down

846
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: as an industry. For too long, people of color have

847
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: been asked to censor whiteness. They have been asked to

848
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: educate their oppressor. They have been asked to use the

849
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: right tone and appease their politics in order to be heard.

850
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: In the effort to just contribute to the self improvement

851
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: of white allies, there are oftentimes just racists. So I

852
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like pulling a blanket off the

853
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: facade of progressivism.

854
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: There was a blanket on top of the facade.

855
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Ah.

856
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: It forces people to deal with those conversations about race

857
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: that go beyond microaggression and that go beyond being politically correct.

858
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: So what it means to what it means to uproot

859
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: racism in its entirety.

860
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: Case.

861
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Do you think that the clobet report itself is oppressive

862
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: or just a specific joker comment was oppressive?

863
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: Neither? Oh my god, So why did this start again? Okay?

864
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, so yeah, those are the comments on episode six

865
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: seventy three had a pole. Do you think hashtag activism

866
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: has officially jumped the shark? Yes, it's like cause that

867
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: was my thing was like to me this is my

868
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: moment where I'm off of it too.

869
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: Like people can continue to do it.

870
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not gonna stop them, but this is my

871
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: like the fact that there was no pushback from people

872
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: who were obviously used, obviously misled, who ran out or

873
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: just ran with this, and there's no like, God damn it, Siwe,

874
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: why'd you put us through this? There's just none of

875
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: that coming back from them. That is enough for me

876
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, I don't need to support any

877
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: of this because to y'all, at this point, you've crossed

878
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: over from where it's about principle to where it's about

879
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: what's gonna blow up? This is gonna become a top

880
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: five trend in twin on Twitter? Am I gonna get

881
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: get more followers from this? Are more people gonna betweet me?

882
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: Because and once you get to that point, it's like

883
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: that's not really activism. Like I don't think Martin Luther

884
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: King was walking down the street with stones getting thrown

885
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 2: in his head talking about how many retweets it's gonna get.

886
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 2: You know, do you think hashtag activism is officially jumped

887
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: the shark? Yes, It's like people aren't even trying anymore. No,

888
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: it's still a valuable form of protest, and this is

889
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: why I stay my ass on Facebook. No, thirteen percent

890
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: of people say this is why I stay my ass

891
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: on Facebook. Twenty five percent of people go no, it's

892
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: still a valuable form of protest, and sixty three percent

893
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: of people feel like me.

894
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: Yes, It's like people aren't even trying anymore as some comments.

895
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Prince Lawn says, I respect the efficacy of parts comment

896
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: comment to care about her original intentions. The efficacy of

897
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: parts comment to care about her original I'm not sure

898
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: I understand that sentence no disrespect. I really it went

899
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: over my head. Many Asian Americans just test that their

900
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: perceived meekness causes them to be an acceptable punchline of

901
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: everyone's jokes. They admit that their parents and slash guardians

902
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: allowed it to occur, but they want to end it now.

903
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: It's also highlighted to interesting points about white liberals. Firstly,

904
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: it took the cancel Cobert hashtag for people to pay

905
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: attention to any Asian American cause. Yeah, by taking away

906
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: attention from the original American calls. Okay, Park and other

907
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: activists are always starting but causes, but it was this

908
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: one that gained the most traction. No, it wasn't this

909
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: one that gained the most traction. The one that gained

910
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: the most tractions. Actually not your Asian sidekick, but okay. Secondly,

911
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: the reaction from Colbert fans were not too different from

912
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: those that were upset about white liberals trying to cancel

913
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: Duck Dynasty. I'm not implying that the original infractions were equal.

914
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think it was equal.

915
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it was the same as the Duck

916
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: Dynasty canceling Duck Dynasty thing. I think there. I mean,

917
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: I think think there's definitely a wing of people that

918
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: was like that. But I think people are grouping a

919
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: lot of people who just had a fundamental problem with

920
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: her that weren't racist, they weren't sexist, they weren't malicious,

921
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: they weren't kind of cuss her out, And if you

922
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: were looking at her timeline, she would not even.

923
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: Address those people.

924
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: It was if you were Asian, you were sellout that

925
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: if you if you came to her, if you were

926
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: a man, obviously you could not have an opinion, even

927
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: though this issue thought was about race and not gender.

928
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: But apparently if you were a man you could not

929
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: possibly understand if you were, if you were of any

930
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: other group other than Asian woman, and you had an

931
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: issue with it, she would basically be like, you're a

932
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: bad ally quote unquote because you just don't support me,

933
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: regardless of your reasoning. So they're so they're like, I

934
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: feel like, and this happened also on Twitter. I forget

935
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: the dude's name, but adept for you or something. This

936
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: is people wanting her to have said something and responding

937
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: to what they wish she had said, not what was said,

938
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I would like to

939
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: hear people respond to what happened, not what they kind

940
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: of have wished happened or what if you frame it

941
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: a certain way, This is what happened, Just what happened,

942
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like if she would have

943
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: said some of these things, maybe we wouldn't be here now.

944
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: But when you're going, well, actually, I don't even want

945
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: to show canceled. Actually it's more about provocative, about being

946
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: provocative than it is about you know, being active, being correct.

947
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, you know, like I said,

948
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: I understand the whole Asian people tired of this shit.

949
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: Blah blah, blah, I really do get it. But even

950
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: she's saying that's not what this is, So then it's like, well,

951
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: what is it? Yeah, because if that I could even

952
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: kind of understand that, I wouldn't necessarily agree. I think

953
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: you pick a bad time target, like you should pick

954
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: a target that there's just too many good targets to

955
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: pick to waste it on a on one that's not bad,

956
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: But okay, fine, at least I could understand if that

957
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: was the way you're standing. But she's not even standing

958
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: on that. Secondly, the reaction, Yeah, and then I disagree

959
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: about the reaction for Colbert fans. I'm a Cobert fan.

960
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: I follow plenty of Colbert fans. Yes, all of them

961
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: weren't talk I would I would not be following any

962
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: of them. I would call them out each individual if

963
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: I ever saw one of them threaten to rape her

964
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: or murder her or any of that shit. There's a

965
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: ton of people that will not be addressed who had

966
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: had actual rational issues against what she had to say. Yes,

967
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: and I'm not implying that the original infractions were equal.

968
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: I'm not in favor of in canceling Colbert and was

969
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: not offended at all by the joke. I guess my

970
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: point is that when you are a silence minority, you

971
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: have to take your opportunities wherever you can, and you

972
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 2: have to go after something they care about. I think

973
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: I think this is not I think this is wrong.

974
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: I think you're wrong. I just think to me, I

975
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: think you also risk watering down your effectiveness when you

976
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: waste effort on targets like it's even more important that

977
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: your bullet strike and it strike true and it be

978
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: for something. You know what I mean. Can you imagine,

979
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: like I said, an actual real activist. Can you like,

980
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: for example, when people said they were getting tired of

981
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: Al Sharp, you know what, they said, they were getting

982
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: tired to Al Sharp. Then it wasn't because Al Sharpton

983
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: was necessarily wrong about everything, but it was because he

984
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: lowered his bar to a level where he was like,

985
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: if black people have an issue, I'm gonna show up

986
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: there and talk about it. And all of a sudden,

987
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: it was, well, sometimes black people have issues that aren't

988
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: really vetted, they're not really the best issues. He showed

989
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: up here in Charlotte when people were saying that this

990
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: local politician was getting cheated out of his seat. Turns

991
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: out that politician was lying, was faking votes, he was

992
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: doing a lot of he was committing voter fraud.

993
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: He's and then people it lessens and it cheapens.

994
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: Our shopped into a lot of people because they're like, oh,

995
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: well he showed up for that ship and everybody was wrong.

996
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: He didn't issue an apology.

997
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he was just pulling a favor for somebody,

998
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: but whatever it is, people walked away going, I'm taking

999
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: our sharped and less serious now.

1000
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: So your your bar matters, is what I'm saying.

1001
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: It does. And when it comes to.

1002
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: Activism and being out there and fighting the fight, it's

1003
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 4: one of those things where people like me are going,

1004
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: why would I support anything that you do? People like

1005
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: me are going, well, if you're going to pick a fight,

1006
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: you need to pick a fight that matters. And also

1007
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: people that are really that that really get out there

1008
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: and get dirty in the streets that when it comes

1009
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: to activism, they've done their research day day, dan know

1010
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: the facts and they go, Okay, this is something I

1011
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: can stand behind. Versus if you jump at everything that happens,

1012
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: you'll be jumping all the time and nobody's gonna It's

1013
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: like the boy to cry wolf. You can't gray wolf

1014
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 4: at every situation. Why Because sometimes black people were wrong.

1015
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: Sometimes black people are in the fault. Sometimes people lie.

1016
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: Sometimes people always when they present it to you, they

1017
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: don't give you all the facts, and you're getting emotional

1018
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: and you're running off with not the whole truth, right.

1019
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like this is the quickest way to

1020
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: get ignored.

1021
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: This is actually the quickest way to get marginalized, because

1022
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, yeah, I remember you, the person

1023
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: who didn't really mean what you said and what's wrong.

1024
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: That's what people are gonna remember from this. They're not

1025
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: gonna remember this as well. She needed to pick something.

1026
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: They're gonna go, yeah, she was wrong, And I don't

1027
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: want like to me, that's almost worse, you know what

1028
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean that like, that's almost worse than not saying

1029
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: anything at all, is to be wrong.

1030
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 4: And on top of that, let's say another issue, let's

1031
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: say symbol of the Trayvon Martin, some other issue comes up.

1032
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: There's a real issue, there's a real problem, that rid

1033
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: of rita. It needs to be addressed. People are gonna go, whatever,

1034
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: you fucked me last time I used to support you.

1035
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm already said I'm going to miss something.

1036
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

1037
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's gonna be. I don't know.

1038
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know how to predict it.

1039
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: You know, it sucks, But I can already tell there's

1040
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: gonna be something in the future where people are gonna

1041
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: be hashtagging.

1042
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, yeah, I'm done.

1043
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't talk about that. I was like, I don't.

1044
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't have time.

1045
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: For the for the for the fake activism and the

1046
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: fake outrage and the the fake issues. Uh so that

1047
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: when something comes up that I probably would care about

1048
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: and pushing support, we will probably talk about on the show,

1049
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck that, Why waste my time?

1050
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: Because I'm not gonna try to.

1051
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: Be funny when it comes to being emotionally attached to

1052
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: a situation and pushing and fighting for a calls. I

1053
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: take that ship seriously. And I understand a lot of

1054
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: people don't, but I do. And so that's why I'm like, well,

1055
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: fuck you, bitch, Because if I stand behind something and

1056
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: support it like this, especially something like this, it's.

1057
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: Not a joke to me, and it's not a game

1058
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: to me. You take it as a game.

1059
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: I can't we can't roll in the same circles because

1060
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 4: you think shit is funny that I don't.

1061
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: Yep.

1062
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: So Yeah, Animated Sparks says these past few weeks of

1063
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: our examples of what happens when the mentality of people

1064
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: who want to use Twitter for social change comes head

1065
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: to have with people's unwillingness to get all of the

1066
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: details before jumping on board or something and wanted to

1067
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: be the center of attention. This is what happens when

1068
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: there unstoppable force mes an ifmovable object mask confusion, frustration,

1069
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: et cetera. Even so, I don't think activism on Twitter

1070
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: has jumped the shark. Far from it. Twitter has been

1071
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 2: and continues to be an effective too for social change.

1072
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah we'll see, man, because I'm gonna tell you the

1073
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: most powerful activism I've ever seen on Twitter is actually

1074
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: the overthrowing of governments. I want you think y'all think

1075
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: that'll happen again Twitter. You think you know we're gonna

1076
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: see something that powerful again?

1077
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know, man. I'm starting to wonder.

1078
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if we'll even see another like Trayvon Martin

1079
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: level call for justice. Like I really am starting to

1080
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: wonder like, uh if people because I feel like people

1081
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: are underestimated. How many folks were thrown off because it

1082
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: turned off? You know, And it's not just this one.

1083
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of collection of ship people overreaching. Let's

1084
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: cancel Saturday Night Live now, let's cancel that. Let's why

1085
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: can't we get this person fired? And it's just like

1086
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: all right, let's see but uh yeah. Twitter has been

1087
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: and continue to be effective to for social change, effective

1088
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: too for social change. Social media spaces are the only

1089
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: places where people have to engage in these type of discussions,

1090
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: thereby thereby becoming part of a greater movement that is

1091
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: slowly leading to change. Despite the various Ashley Larry shout

1092
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: out to this pretty brown girl at dpg DPBG for

1093
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: creating that phrase, who's constantly constantly claim it's just Twitter,

1094
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: the plat form has been and continues to be a

1095
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: vehicle for mind changing dialogue, both online and off. Exposed

1096
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: exposure to these issues via online interaction often leads to

1097
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: offline discussions with people who may vehemently disagree, which eventually

1098
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: leads to social change and attitudes regarding various issues facing

1099
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: our community. And let's not forget about the hard changes

1100
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: Twitter activist has led to, such as pulling a pulling

1101
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: a Duror B thirty seven's book deal at the Zemin

1102
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: verdict and the role it played in the growth of

1103
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: tradevon Martin's case itself, a fact that was recently pointed

1104
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: out on this show. I don't see that power ending

1105
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: simply because of a few misuse hashtags and a couple

1106
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: of bandwagon jumpers looking for fifteen minutes of e fang.

1107
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I just pointed goes out just now.

1108
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't keep in mind the poll wasn't is activism bad,

1109
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: It's simply are is it?

1110
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: Jumping the shark?

1111
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: Where people are going to be like, I'm this is

1112
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: no longer a thing I treat seriously off the time.

1113
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: Yep, you know what I mean.

1114
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: Jumping the shark doesn't mean Happy Days gets canceled. The

1115
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: means you jump that shark and then nobody gives a

1116
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: fuck about the rest of those episodes.

1117
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. We'll see what happens.

1118
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't believe it's an inherently bad thing.

1119
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: I just think we've crossed the threshold to where now

1120
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: people are realizing that you can become socially popular via

1121
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: these trends.

1122
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: More so than being right.

1123
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: And the fact that people won't even call a person

1124
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: like that out says a lot. It says a lot

1125
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: to me because to me, the one thing that the

1126
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: social media justice had over your TV justice and all

1127
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: this stuff is that it was real, It was raw,

1128
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: it was authentic. It was a way to circumvent the

1129
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: media process. And now you actually have the opposite of

1130
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: the current, where it's like, how can we get this started,

1131
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: just so we can get it to a media point

1132
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: where maybe they'll interview me, maybe I'll get to be

1133
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: on TV, maybe I can you know, boost this into

1134
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: an interview.

1135
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: I think it's at a very dangerous fork in the row.

1136
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: Yes, I think, and I agree with you. I think

1137
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: that before a lot.

1138
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 4: Of it was very grassroots, where I can, like you said,

1139
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 4: I could bring a calls in a certain part of

1140
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: the country that the rest of the country has no

1141
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: idea what's happen to what's going on, and I can

1142
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: make people look and I can make people call, and

1143
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: you know, and now, now, now that's the purpose of it,

1144
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: and that part of it and that spirit I agree with.

1145
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 4: I agree with things that are happening is injustice. Let's

1146
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: bring them up, let's talk about it, let's address this.

1147
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm with that because the person that started that is

1148
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 4: behind their calls, believes their calls, and wants to bring

1149
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 4: light on their calls. That's different than this situation where

1150
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: she was like, I was bored and I getn't have

1151
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: nothing to pay for FU toes with, let me go

1152
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: attack Stephen Colbert.

1153
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: That's not the same, right, And I think the other

1154
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: reason we're bringing it up now is because it's been

1155
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: a few weeks of like you said, examples of what happens,

1156
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like it wasn't like we

1157
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: just said oh this one, Oh no, fuck that this

1158
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: is the problem, Like it's it's when you see this

1159
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: happen for a while, and then you have people that

1160
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: are supposed to be about having standards and having some integrity.

1161
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: That's the reason they're on social media in the first place.

1162
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: They're saying, that's the reason that I've been marginalized, but

1163
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: now I have my platform. But then they're pulling the

1164
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: same shit that these people do on these on Fox

1165
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: News and CNN and shit. I think it's completely appropriate

1166
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: to ask the question, has it jumped the shark?

1167
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: I hope it. I really hope it hasn't.

1168
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: To be honest, I hope that people go back to

1169
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: being authentic and calling people out and you know.

1170
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: Having these tough discussions.

1171
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: But I'm starting to see now that people are just

1172
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: grouping up and now marginalized groups are getting their own

1173
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: form of well, now we're going to have rules that,

1174
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: whether they're hypocritical or not, this is the only way

1175
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: you can engage us. And it's like, well, see that's

1176
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: not really fair. You know, it's not you know, that's

1177
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: a good thing about social media. You create the platform

1178
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: you want so people can go do that. I just

1179
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: don't have to participate.

1180
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: Derek right son.

1181
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: I want to say that this is the lazy man's

1182
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: way of protesting, but I can see how it has

1183
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: its marriage.

1184
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: You can reach thousands of people all over the world

1185
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: in an instant.

1186
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: However, civil rights leaders of the fifties and sixties didn't

1187
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: have Facebook or Twitter, and they still manage to mobilize people.

1188
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: I feel that when something is too easy, it loses

1189
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: its value. Basically, anyone with a smartphone, tablet, laptop, etc.

1190
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: Etc. Can start up a cause and call themselves an activist.

1191
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's something to be said about

1192
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: the ease of access while also allowing more people to

1193
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: the conversation. I think it would be you almost have

1194
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: to purposely ignore the idea that this also means people

1195
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: could use it for the wrong shit. Yes, you know

1196
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, it's available to everybody, and that's beautiful,

1197
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: but it also, as a drawback, is available to everybody,

1198
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: and that can be ugly. You know, just depends on

1199
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: the people. Right, Episode six seventy four, Tax the Childice.

1200
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: We talked to Brandy stand up comedian, and we had

1201
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 2: doctor Bracelet right saying yes, Team Justice of the Peace,

1202
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: who talked about getting married and the cost of getting married,

1203
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: and Brandy said she would just go to.

1204
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: The Justice the Piece.

1205
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: We went to the Justice the Piece, so doctor Bracey says, yes,

1206
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 2: Team Justice of the Piece.

1207
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: A couple of my wife's.

1208
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: Friends were being petty in our preparation for their weddings.

1209
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: In preparation for their weddings and tried to shame her

1210
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: for not inviting them into ours. I wanted to say,

1211
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: dumb ass, we didn't have a wedding. That social pressure

1212
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: of inviting certain people is not something I have to

1213
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: worry about.

1214
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

1215
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Want to make that serious.

1216
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't want to go to your wedding.

1217
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: I yes, because a lot of people, a lot of

1218
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 4: people don't talk about weddings are boring weddings. They're boring

1219
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: a lot of times.

1220
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: I've been to several of them.

1221
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're not organized, they're not playing very well. Nobody

1222
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: really talks about the downside of it. You have to

1223
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: do people bad ass kids. There's a lot of shit

1224
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 4: that goes behind wedding other than just your day.

1225
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: You're over there snapping pictures.

1226
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: You're not in the audience, so you don't have to

1227
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: see all the other bullshit that the crowd has to

1228
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: deal with. And the best wedding that we've been went

1229
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 4: to was Derek's and nobody I don't think anybody else

1230
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: will have a top that. That's because his wife was

1231
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 4: an event planner, so she had tons of shit for

1232
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: you to do. Believe you me probably costs a lot

1233
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: of fucking money. Uh.

1234
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: Should people who choose not to have children be taxed

1235
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: for it? Yes?

1236
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 10: Or no?

1237
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes, they need to pay their fair share for other

1238
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: people's kids. No, that's ridiculous. Eighty five percent of people

1239
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: agree with me and Karen and Brandy. That's ridiculous, But

1240
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of you selfish kid having motherfuckers. Probably, I'm

1241
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: sure that's who wrote it thought that, Yeah, we need

1242
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: to help pay for your bad ass kids. Me the

1243
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: casey Stork says, whoever in the hell voted yes, y'all

1244
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: niggas better be trolling. Sugar Bell said, my paycheck will

1245
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: look so much better with our taxes.

1246
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: Sa I hear you.

1247
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: And let's see what else do we have another episode? Yeah,

1248
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: we had episode six seventy five. I stayed with Rod,

1249
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: and the poll was simple, who do you staying with Rod, Chris,

1250
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Marie Claire or all y'all need to sit your asses down? Yeah,

1251
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: four percent of people still with Marie Claire, twenty two

1252
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: percent of people still with Chris, twenty six percent of

1253
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: people still with me, and a whopping forty eight percent

1254
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: of people said all y'all need to sit y'all ass down.

1255
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure who won that poll.

1256
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: And we had one comment on the nerd Off episode

1257
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: Old Well Nerdnesia was the name of the episode, and

1258
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: the comment was from O four soldier says, love the

1259
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: nerd Off just bought a PS four recently, and man,

1260
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my purchase. I find something very interesting going

1261
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: on with the PS four. The PS four camera is

1262
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: selling like hotcakes, and they're just as hard just as

1263
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: hard to find or harder to find than a new

1264
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: PS four. It's funny because that PS four was not

1265
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: bundled with camera like the Xbox was bundled with the Connect,

1266
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: yet it sells O skyrocketed all the same. I think

1267
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: the main selling point of the PS four camera is

1268
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: the streaming feature. There are some freaks out there that

1269
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: own PlayStations that can't wait to tease people for to

1270
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: garner attention. Don't believe me. Check out this link. And

1271
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: he sent a YouTube link, so I haven't checked it

1272
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: out yet, but yeah.

1273
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

1274
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: I did not know that they were selling the camera,

1275
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: and it's funny because the only reason I probably didn't

1276
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: know that is because so many people fighting about the

1277
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: camera being included. No, they're fighting about the Connect versus

1278
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: play like the Connect in addition, so it's almost like, well,

1279
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to broadcast that I went out and

1280
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: paid money for this camera, because then they puts the

1281
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: cost issue aside, and I can't go, well, your shit

1282
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: costs one hundred dollars more. It's like, well, you went

1283
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: bought the fucking camera. It's damn near the same now,

1284
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: like so now.

1285
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: We're paying the same price.

1286
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, and that's something that people don't push in

1287
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 4: promote and talk about because these same people don't argue

1288
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: with you bet.

1289
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: It, they about their fucking camera. What are you talking about?

1290
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: Then, let's play voicemails. The Casey start called there with

1291
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: two voicemails. The first one he said he was kind

1292
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: of rambling, but I played some of it anyway, kind

1293
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: of lost the pace halfway through.

1294
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: But then he left another one right after it.

1295
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 7: So what's going on? Ryd and Terrence Boy Casey Store.

1296
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 7: I meant to call in previous to this Saturday. I

1297
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 7: believe this is in March for eight. I watched play

1298
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 7: ninth to get some feedback from the previous call in show.

1299
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 7: So but yeah, I fucked that time got a hold

1300
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 7: of me. But I know, Rise, you're not the biggest

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Speaker 7: fan of college athletics, but I do know you watch it.

1302
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 7: I do know you hate that a lot of the

1303
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 7: fandom that goes into it, And I agree with you

1304
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 7: totally on that. As a former collegiate player, I don't

1305
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 7: can say it's hard for me to stop watching the game.

1306
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 7: I mean, but I mean I love the college game.

1307
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 7: I mean I love the college game. A lot of

1308
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 7: passion goes into it because I know the work that

1309
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 7: goes into it. And not to dismiss the work that

1310
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 7: goes into the high school players, NFL players. I've never

1311
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 7: played on the NFL level, so I only play on

1312
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 7: the college level, so I just know the work that

1313
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 7: goes into that. And this call and say, I appreciate

1314
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 7: your support. I don't know, I say defense, but support

1315
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 7: maybe defense of you know, empowering you know, college athletes.

1316
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 7: And a part of the does totally, totally, a part

1317
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 7: of me does agree with what you say. You know,

1318
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 7: as far as you know, if people really really really

1319
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 7: want to resp that student athlete bullsh if they preach,

1320
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 7: then they should be people there who are there to

1321
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 7: be students in athletes. Second, but we know that's not true,

1322
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 7: and we know that, I mean from getting getting off

1323
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 7: time of perier. Forgive me, but just that, just like

1324
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 7: any debate, the lowest or the weakest member or the

1325
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 7: weakest link in the debate always just pushed upon. And

1326
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 7: in this case it's the college athlete. You know, we say,

1327
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 7: fuck the school, fuck the school president, fuck the av

1328
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 7: fuck the college coach, fuck all these people who are

1329
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 7: making millions of plum millions. I mean, if it's a

1330
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 7: state fund, the school and your state tax dollars, uh,

1331
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 7: private school and your tuition dollars. I mean, and we

1332
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 7: push the front the so called greedy athlete. And I

1333
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 7: just don't get that. I mean, I don't get it

1334
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 7: how people can actually entertain that and do that. But

1335
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 7: you always bring it to life, to that just people,

1336
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 7: because people want that athlete to be there to entertain them,

1337
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 7: that this new age gladiator. And that's bullshit, man, And

1338
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 7: just told bullshit. And I mean, I just appreciate the

1339
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 7: light that you bring to it. The voice should give

1340
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 7: to it. And I mean, I don't know how many

1341
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 7: other college athletes out there was to the show, but

1342
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 7: they should call in. Man. Just really, you know, thank

1343
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 7: you for your support, give me of that mission of

1344
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 7: you know, I don't know, I don't know how we're

1345
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 7: gonna pay it out. I don't know how we're gonna

1346
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 7: diive it out. I don't know how you pay all

1347
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 7: college athletes. But if we're there, if we're there and

1348
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 7: we're bringing this money into the school, then why not

1349
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 7: shuck cut down? Yeah we get tail grand money, but

1350
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 7: that money ain't a lot of money. I'm sorry. I

1351
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 7: seem to tell grand check and that shit don't pay

1352
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 7: for a lot, you know what I'm saying. So I

1353
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 7: mean this whatever, man, I don't get to know the

1354
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 7: people come come to me with that greedy college athlete bullshit. No, No,

1355
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 7: we just want to We just won't be able to

1356
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 7: go to a movie. We just won't be able to

1357
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 7: do this, do that. And I mean it's whatever. Whatever.

1358
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm biased with good yet like I said,

1359
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 7: former collact, I'm biased anyway. Once again, thanks for the show,

1360
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 7: Thanks for your voice. You know the matter as far

1361
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 7: as I can tire and uh college acclad to that athletes.

1362
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 7: Uh and Casey stuck out?

1363
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: Cool? Thanks Casey start and uh yeah no problem man.

1364
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: Like like I said, I'm not saying every single kid

1365
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: that has ever played football or basketball needs to be

1366
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: a millionaire or some ship like that, but as long

1367
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: as they hold on to that handful of kids that

1368
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: people actually should be watching play professionally, they're gonna always

1369
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: have a moral quandary on their hands about having to

1370
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: pay athletes, because, let's be honest, those athletes are pretty

1371
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: much fun in the school and you know, the whole

1372
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: system itself. Yeah, so it's actually weird that you know

1373
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: that to incorporate those those levels of capitalism into that

1374
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: same system of college or.

1375
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 4: Less than a one half of a percent of all

1376
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: college athletes, what do you go?

1377
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: Pro right?

1378
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 7: What's going on? Right? In chance case stuff? Here? I

1379
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: apologize to you and the listeners. I did not have

1380
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 7: my melts in front of me, but just wanted to

1381
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 7: finish her by staying a year ago when this debate

1382
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 7: came up, and you know it always comes up during

1383
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 7: the NFL draft hunt coincidents, But you were talking about

1384
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 7: it and I called in and I told a story

1385
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 7: about simply about at my first two years of Washburn,

1386
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 7: I had a chemistry lab during this spring session of

1387
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 7: winter breakout here, yessu'd be that's where we have our

1388
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 7: win the workouts, and my lab was like a seven

1389
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 7: in the morning and getting up at four thirty five

1390
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 7: in the morning to go run for basically a hour

1391
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 7: and a half two hours of workout wearing me out,

1392
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 7: and I'm even trying to talk to my coach like

1393
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 7: can I come in later or do whatever? And I'm

1394
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 7: sure I'm not the first college kid, you know, college

1395
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 7: police athlete, you have to deal with this shit, and

1396
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 7: I know I won't be the last, you know, talking

1397
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 7: about ways to make it better for me to get

1398
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 7: my academics and maintain my grades. And my defensive back

1399
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 7: coach basically looked at me and said, hey, son, you're

1400
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 7: not here on an academic scholarship. You're here on a

1401
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 7: half leaged scholarship. So when people come to me with

1402
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 7: that bullshit, it falls on death heres man, Because I'm

1403
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 7: I said, I know I'm not the first, I won't

1404
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 7: be the last. But been there, done that, man, And

1405
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 7: I know for a fact, I know for a fact

1406
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 7: maybe the school care, but they ain't out there on

1407
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,440
Speaker 7: the field, and they ain't out there mind turn the hours.

1408
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 7: No one gives this shit, you know what I'm saying.

1409
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 7: And then so you when I transferred to the University

1410
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 7: of Missouri, you know, miz, still love my school, still

1411
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 7: love my you know. Let mean, yeah, there's a lot

1412
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 7: of times I had that with you know, with my friends.

1413
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: But like you said on the other show, I wasn't

1414
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 7: one of those guys that realized I'm not going to

1415
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 7: the NFL. You know what I'm saying. I'm out there,

1416
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 7: you know when I went there in ninety seven, ninety eight,

1417
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 7: out there trying to fucking tackle Ricky Williams, out there

1418
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 7: trying to chase fucking David Boston around the field, and shit, Uh, yeah,

1419
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 7: I realized that, Yeah, I'm not going to the NFL.

1420
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I was good enough to

1421
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 7: get a scholarship there, but not good enough to advance

1422
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 7: to the next level. And that's you know, that's pretty

1423
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 7: much most of the you know, collegiate players. But if

1424
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 7: you're out there and you're listening, I still say you

1425
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 7: have to be a voice. You have to, you know,

1426
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 7: just be a voice and not hate on these guys

1427
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 7: who are trying to get empower, get more benefits, you know,

1428
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 7: get more protection. You know. Why can't we have guaranteed

1429
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 7: four year scholarships. Why do we have to only get

1430
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 7: one year? Basically getting hold out by the university. We

1431
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 7: had a guy mu who I don't know who drafted him,

1432
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 7: but he should not have been there because he was

1433
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 7: probably the worst in the linebacker I've ever seen in

1434
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 7: my life. But you know what, he came there, he

1435
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 7: was guaranteed the scholarship. But you know what, that next year,

1436
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 7: his scholarship was not renewed. That's bullshit. Why I wasn't

1437
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 7: it renewed because he was a poor athlete, of course,

1438
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 7: but I thought we were there for fucking academics. So

1439
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 7: don't come to me with that bullshit anyway. Once again,

1440
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 7: thanks Ryan, Thanks Karen to give a voice to that.

1441
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 7: Thanks for always always being on the side of what's right,

1442
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 7: and also of the people who have no voice, who

1443
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 7: are the weakest links in the chain of this argument,

1444
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 7: whether it be you know, black women who getting shipped on,

1445
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 7: whether it be college athletes for are getting shited on.

1446
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 7: Always thank you for your voice, all right, Casey start out.

1447
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 11: Thank you, sweetie, Thanks start And yeah, man, I agree

1448
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 11: that that is the real issue at heart, is just

1449
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 11: the moral conundrum that college athletics has kind of forced

1450
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 11: upon itself with this.

1451
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's academic and sometimes it's about athletics. And it's

1452
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: like when you start throwing that term around in a

1453
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: setting where it's supposed to be about the betterment of

1454
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: these young men about learning to.

1455
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: About learning to find a path in life.

1456
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: You can't start making these cold calculated financial decisions like

1457
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna cut your scholarship because you're not good at linebacker.

1458
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: But then when people go, well, shit, if it's that

1459
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: cutthroat while, you know, why don't we find a way

1460
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: to compensate these kids, Then it's like, well, whoa what

1461
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 2: do you create that their students? It's like, well, are

1462
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: these students are not?

1463
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1464
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: Like, so there's and I think if people don't even

1465
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: want to recognize or discuss that, then then they either

1466
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: are being false in some sensitive you know, some sensitive word,

1467
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: or possibly even worse malicious. You know, there is a

1468
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: lot of jealousy with these athletes, There's a lot of

1469
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: but they have it so easy and once you can

1470
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: kind of separate Joe six pack from relating to the

1471
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: person on the field, they'll let you do anything to

1472
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: those people. All you have to do is convince, like,

1473
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: you know, you think this isn't behind why a man

1474
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: feels entitled as fifty years old to yell at a

1475
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: kids who's nineteen and market smart. You think you think

1476
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: that shit doesn't come from somewhere it does. And part

1477
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: of it is that, you know, people feed into this shit.

1478
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: We make it seem like the fans are the ones

1479
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: who are you both we should be praising them.

1480
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1481
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 5: He was going on round and Karen, look, I know

1482
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit late on this, on this feedback.

1483
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 5: I want to give it out there, Karen, Well, let

1484
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 5: me say this.

1485
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 10: There has been a couple of deaths in my lifetime

1486
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 10: that I know exactly what I was when I first

1487
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 10: heard about it. Michael jacks most recently, I'm about to

1488
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 10: kill Matthew Joon excuse me, Michael Jackson.

1489
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 7: And then you have that Whitney Houston.

1490
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 10: But there's another depth that I know exactly who I

1491
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 10: was when it happened, when I found out about it,

1492
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 10: and that's the guy.

1493
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 7: That Nintendo do Karen, when you killed.

1494
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 10: Nintendo, when you killed miscnario on, I was I was exactly.

1495
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 10: I went my way to work. He was early in

1496
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 10: the morning, around seven thirty and I'm driving to.

1497
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 5: Work and I'm here, you just killed his man.

1498
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 10: And I just want to let you know that that

1499
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 10: should have got a kippy.

1500
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 5: I don't know what kind of boldus counting fraudulent.

1501
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 10: Thing is going on in the background, but I'm here

1502
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 10: to let you know that I'm going to get to

1503
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 10: the bottom of it.

1504
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 7: And I think you deserve your tippy. I think Rod

1505
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 7: should go ahead.

1506
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 10: And have his Mac with more moment right now and

1507
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 10: give you a text message and put it out on

1508
01:14:58,720 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 10: the work, put it.

1509
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: Out on on the on the internet, to let.

1510
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 10: Everyone know that you deserve that tipping your FRAUDI and

1511
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 10: you need to come clean, all right, brother.

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't given this award. It was voted on

1513
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: by the fans. So this is actually the opposite of McLamore.

1514
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: McLamore was given an award from the Academy. My award

1515
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: came as a fans choice. I'm the people's choice and

1516
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: the people's champ and I will represent this throne for

1517
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: as long as I'm on it.

1518
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 3: The next time, give your name so I can cut

1519
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 3: you out my name, sir.

1520
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, I thank you for your next next next word, man.

1521
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I see you're trying to push me along.

1522
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 6: Wrap it up, all right, here we go, Garant, Stephen Richard.

1523
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 6: I was listening to your feedback episode from last week.

1524
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 6: I tell you what I tell you. Still had a goodness,

1525
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 6: old leader brothers to keyboard kankster. I tell you what Hey,

1526
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 6: hey Leonard, Hey, what you gonna do about this right here? Huh?

1527
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 6: You get tongue. We can support that chatting room. You understanding,

1528
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 6: but you don't you don't want to get on it? Hey,

1529
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 6: I'll tell you. Hold man, Hey, hold man, hey.

1530
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 5: Hold man?

1531
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 6: Hey, what you gonna do about this right here? You

1532
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 6: understand me? Oh yeah, I'm thinking, Hey that old doctor

1533
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 6: James NaN's well. Hey, Leonard man, Hey, I'm gonna keep

1534
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 6: coming for you. I'll tell you what. It's not over

1535
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 6: what I was saying last week. I'm coming with my

1536
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 6: game there. Hey, chill, I say, hey man, hey, chill

1537
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 6: me and you we gonna be duking it out. We're

1538
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 6: gonna be duking it out real good. This year twenty

1539
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 6: fourteen is gonna be a real good tippy year. I'll

1540
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 6: tell you that much. Hey, this is Stephen Richards. Haag

1541
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 6: it off. But thank you righting caared for letting us

1542
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 6: get on your show in uh showcase? Are are you know?

1543
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 6: Are random ass talking? But anyway, hey, thank you guys.

1544
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 6: You have a goodn't all right?

1545
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Steve Richards. One more voicemail.

1546
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 6: Okay, Rod and carry this is up stever Richard's out

1547
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 6: of BOTM Like listen, I was listening to your show

1548
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 6: about the uh about the tax and the child. Who

1549
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 6: is man, hey, I heard your argument about the children,

1550
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 6: you know, having a child. We don't think about having

1551
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 6: kids and everything like that. Let me let me tell

1552
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 6: you something that man, uh, I don't think I don't

1553
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 6: think that the people without children should be text uh

1554
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 6: more in addition to what's going on right now. But

1555
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Now, we need the damn taxes

1556
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 6: after the tax trace that we get because you understand, hey, man, hey,

1557
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 6: these damn kids are being expensive. You know, you got daycare,

1558
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 6: you got food, you got all types of expenses, and

1559
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 6: and you are also saying that's uh the job market

1560
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 6: is in uh friendly. Uh. You were saying that it's

1561
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 6: friendly er to parents that it is to uh to

1562
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 6: them to to to child is soaked. Now, now I

1563
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 6: don't see child as folk as snow, there's no less

1564
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 6: than the person with the with the with the child.

1565
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 6: But but you've got to understand, my friends, Now, when

1566
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 6: you got kids, you know, sometimes things happen that you

1567
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 6: just don't expect. Now, and and and that's nothing and

1568
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 6: and that can happen. See anybody, he understands like you

1569
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 6: can be at work, everything can be going side and

1570
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 6: your and your damn daycare calls. You said your child

1571
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 6: is calling today. He needs to get the hell out

1572
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 6: of here. Now Now it actually happens, man, I'm telling you,

1573
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,480
Speaker 6: I'm telling you. I'm telling from experienced.

1574
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 11: Man.

1575
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 6: I've been I've been on the road and everything went

1576
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 6: and and uh with them daycare calls me and tells

1577
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 6: me to come pick up the kids. Now, I don't

1578
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 6: know what to do about that. I have to call

1579
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: my wife. She is leave her jobs. So I mean, hey, man, Les,

1580
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 6: parents do need a little bit more flexibility. I mean,

1581
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I don't be an honest man.

1582
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 6: You were speaking a little bit pretentiously, and understand I

1583
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 6: think you were speaking from a little bit of nuns out.

1584
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 6: I had the privilege, and I didn't like it. Okay,

1585
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 6: I'm letting good text. I just didn't like it. Okay, man, Hey,

1586
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 6: we normally agree on everything. I dream with you on

1587
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 6: the city park thing. Okay, she was kind of starting

1588
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 6: the damn firestorm for no reason. But I think you're

1589
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 6: wrong on this but okay, hey this know Stephen Richards,

1590
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 6: you guys have good Thank you.

1591
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: All right, Steven Richards.

1592
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 2: To clarify my point, I was saying, jobs already allow

1593
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: parents more freedom than people with our kids, by which

1594
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, if your kid get sick,

1595
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: you can go home whatever. They normally don't even take

1596
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: it off your vacation time. It's understood, like they're making

1597
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: allowances if you want to go on fraternity leave. That

1598
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: is literally written into the rules. You can go on

1599
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: paternity leave. You can go on maternity leave. There's just

1600
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: more consideration given for people who have kids.

1601
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: It's just in a certain assumption, right.

1602
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: What I was saying is, don't put that shit into

1603
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: fucking tax code, all right, Like this, Like when it

1604
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: comes to you being a parent, that's still a personal choice.

1605
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: I didn't get any decision on that, So why the

1606
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: fuck should I be involved in that? And furthermore, I

1607
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: don't think the government should be involved in any personal.

1608
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 3: Decisions that.

1609
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: Like either incentivizing them or penalizing them. So if you

1610
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: don't want to.

1611
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Have kids, there should be no penalty for that.

1612
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: If you want to have kids, there shouldn't be any

1613
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: fucking you know, hey, let's give this purpose some money.

1614
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: If you want to buy a house, they shouldn't give

1615
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: you money. They shouldn't take off your taxes. If you

1616
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: want to start a business, they shouldn't do that. They

1617
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: shouldn't And like if you just kind of had a flat, like,

1618
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: this is what tax are. This is how much of

1619
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: your money is gonna go for everybody, regardless of what

1620
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: you're into.

1621
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: Lower everybody.

1622
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: Shit, Stop trying to like to switch up to certain loopholes.

1623
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: You think it's like, it's crazy to me that.

1624
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: So many corporations don't pay a diamond tax and some

1625
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: even get money back, ye billion dollar companies, So like,

1626
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: don't you know to me, that's my problem. I don't

1627
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: really give a fuck about if you need to go

1628
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: home because the child is sick and you need an

1629
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: extra couple days or whatever, pay or what.

1630
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't care about that.

1631
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: But this idea that people are like, well, obviously if

1632
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: you don't have children, it's easier for you as a

1633
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: career path. That's not necessarily true for one, But then

1634
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: also also number two, I didn't decide to have kids.

1635
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 3: Should I be penalized for it?

1636
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 6: So?

1637
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: Should I not be able to get that job because

1638
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: I'm putting more work than you. You decide to have

1639
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: fucking kids, if that means you can't do a seventy

1640
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: hour work week like the dude next to you who

1641
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: doesn't have kids, that's your choice.

1642
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 3: You made a choice. Stick with it.

1643
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to act like every choice should also make

1644
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: It's like.

1645
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 3: The playing field should also be leveled.

1646
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: Whenever you make a choice outside of work, that's that's

1647
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: not a work decision you made. You made a decision

1648
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: to the detriment of your job. The company is there

1649
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: to think about the company, you know what I mean.

1650
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: So that's my point. Now, I don't really if that's pretentious.

1651
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: If that's whatever, the fuck, I'll be pretentious. I would

1652
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 2: say the same thing if you bought a puppy, I'd

1653
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: say the.

1654
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: Same fucking thing. Well, I need to go take my

1655
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: dog to the vet. Cool.

1656
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: You couldn't be here for the project and the other

1657
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: dude could. That's all the company cares about. It's not

1658
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: their job to be like, well, I know if you

1659
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: would have been here, you would have did a great job.

1660
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: So we're gonna give you the promotion.

1661
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Should I not get the promotion if I put in

1662
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: more work, like who does that?

1663
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 3: You know?

1664
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: So that that's where I would come at That's where

1665
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: I would come at it from. I don't you know.

1666
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't despise people with kids and think they should

1667
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: suffer anything. But at the same time, I don't think

1668
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: the government should make me suffer.

1669
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 3: For not having kids.

1670
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: That that's so backwards to me that it's damn there offensive.

1671
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 2: And the way that article is written, it was clearly

1672
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: by someone who had some type of emotional hang up

1673
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: with his parents and his own lack of children and

1674
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: the guilt from it. And honestly, that's your shit. Worry

1675
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: about that on your own player, Yes, sir, all right,

1676
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: that was the last voicemail, So everybody wants to call

1677
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: in seven O four five five seven zero one a

1678
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: six seven O four five five seven zero one eighty six.

1679
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: Let me read some voicemail of emails. Actually got a

1680
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 3: lot of those.

1681
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Uh yo, you're on with the blackout, tells us up, terling,

1682
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: great great man, how you doing.

1683
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 8: Can't complain too much that I mean, I just wanted

1684
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 8: to call in because I haven't called it yet since

1685
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 8: I won my.

1686
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: Tippy Okay, okay.

1687
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 8: I had to say string of just thank you to

1688
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 8: the Blackoutest Nation for voting for me for best Interview.

1689
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 7: Like I felt like I took it took too long.

1690
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 8: I should have been on a week one, you know

1691
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 8: what I mean. And I sucked all the way up

1692
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 8: and I wanted to take the Academy as ron and

1693
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 8: carry for me the holes hit, you know what I mean.

1694
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 8: And of course all my all, my trust and my

1695
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 8: love go Deside because without him I can't do any

1696
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 8: of this. He put me here on this earth, you

1697
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 8: know what I mean. And yeah, that's pretty much it.

1698
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 8: That's really want to say thank you for it. Like

1699
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 8: doing doing the interview was great. I actually had somebody

1700
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 8: hit me up last week that I know had to

1701
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 8: listen to the interview because I really don't talk about

1702
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 8: it that much. That actually said like what you said

1703
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 8: and made me go to the doctor. I knew some

1704
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 8: chicks up wow.

1705
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,959
Speaker 7: And and that's like that was majoring.

1706
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 8: Because that's really what I wanted. Like the whole reason

1707
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 8: how misix I was because I just lived a younger man,

1708
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 8: and I was like, you know what I mean, fuck that,

1709
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 8: Like I'm just gonna go do what I want to do,

1710
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 8: and I'm gonna go kill and you know, live life

1711
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 8: up and then when I got too bad, I was

1712
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 8: fucked over. But if if I took care of it

1713
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 8: when I was younger, I couldn't possibly have been in

1714
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 8: a better position, you know what I mean. Like that,

1715
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 8: it was just dope that you know, you came to

1716
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 8: the platform to do that and I ended up helping

1717
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 8: somebody Like that was awesome.

1718
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: That's dope.

1719
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 4: Man.

1720
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 2: I'm glad people did listen to the interview. Glad people

1721
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: win got help and stuff. And like I said, man

1722
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: that I mean to me, that was a crazy award

1723
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: because I talked to so many people with medium talk.

1724
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: I did so many episodes. I thought it was crazy.

1725
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 2: Karen did listening and good. She had so many interviews

1726
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: that I thought was like, wow, this is really in

1727
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: depth and running more about this person than I thought

1728
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: I ever would.

1729
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, uh, I mean so many people

1730
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: with celebrities and.

1731
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 8: Ship and uh I could vote for myself the interview

1732
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 8: she was gonna kill me, like yeah.

1733
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: And uh when I saw the results, I was like,

1734
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: it's kind of fitting, and uh, it's kind of dope,

1735
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because that's that's that's an

1736
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: interview that almost didn't happen, you.

1737
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 8: Know, so that she got that, that she got closer.

1738
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I said. And also just on

1739
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 8: some real thank you for real tweets about Noah because

1740
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 8: I went to go see that shit yesterday.

1741
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: Oh how'd you like the man?

1742
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 8: I was almost it was so amazing.

1743
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 6: Launcher.

1744
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't even bother to try to explain why.

1745
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: No reason, Launcher, And yeah, I don't wanna.

1746
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to spoil it too much for people,

1747
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: but I'm supposed to do a review of it, so

1748
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,959
Speaker 2: and so. But yeah, god damn, just so good.

1749
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:29,480
Speaker 6: So good.

1750
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 8: If they can do every other Bible movie like.

1751
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 6: That, yeah, with like.

1752
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 8: Each other, I'm here for that story.

1753
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm all about Exodus now because of this.

1754
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1755
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't even gonna see Exodus.

1756
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian Bell, you know he's gonna be in character

1757
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: like ship all right, Starling a good one.

1758
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 3: Tipping award win Yes.

1759
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: Yes, congratulations against Heir. The thing about it is that

1760
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 4: I remember listening to that one. I was like, well, god, damn, Sterling.

1761
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 4: It really opened up my eyes to a lot of things.

1762
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 2: Jules Wright saying the most ironically titled email that I've

1763
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: gotten in a long time. Just a quick note about

1764
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: disclosing transgender identity from a non black POC CIS queer woman.

1765
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah one, because this is not quick at all. This

1766
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: is not a quick note. This is long, you know,

1767
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: very well written. But I'm already confused at the title,

1768
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Like I have to read this more than once to

1769
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: figure out what what exactly she's going with. It's non

1770
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: black person of color, Oh her cerson of color but

1771
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: not black. I could have went with you know, if

1772
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: you would have said Asian, if you would said in

1773
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 2: then if you would have said Mexican Latino like something,

1774
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 2: I would have went with that too. But I'm figuring

1775
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: it out as we go. Non black person of color CIS.

1776
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: So I think that cis gender means you are the

1777
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: gender that you're physically like is on your body. So

1778
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you have a vagina, then you're a woman. You identify

1779
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: as a wom if you have a penis, yourdentifiers a man.

1780
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 2: So she's a non black person of color who is

1781
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: a CIS gendered queer woman, so she's make queer I

1782
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: think does not necessarily mean lesbian or gay, but it

1783
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: can mean a bunch of stuff, but it's not necessarily straight.

1784
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: So she's queer and a woman. Okay, all right, high

1785
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: roding care. I've been listening to your show for a

1786
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: few weeks now and just wanted to clarify a few

1787
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: points that you that you too are discussing while I'm

1788
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: listening at work today March twenty nine, regarding disclosure transgend

1789
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: disclosing transgender identity as someone who is SIS, queer, and

1790
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: black person of color, but actively educating myself on gender identity,

1791
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: the separation of sex, sexuality, and gender. I wanted to

1792
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: send in some resources for you to further the discussion,

1793
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 2: or just some points to note that note that illuminate

1794
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: many key factors that a transperson might not want to disclose,

1795
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: especially trans women.

1796
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: Here are some quick Here are some resources quick notes.

1797
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 2: That were distributed with a button during my campus transgender

1798
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Awareness Week. There's let me see what this takes me

1799
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: to I have not clicked on any of this stuff.

1800
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: Ally education information for people now.

1801
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: I personally am not an ally to anybody, for the record,

1802
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: hate that word and don't want to be that. I'll

1803
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: be your friend, but I will not be your ally.

1804
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, it has some information here. If someone asks

1805
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: you what the button is for, you feel comfortable to

1806
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: describing the transgender umbrella explaining the difference between gender sex

1807
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: and sexual orientation. Know the names of at least four

1808
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: transgender scholars, celebrities, politicians, et cetera.

1809
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: Hashtag active ally. Yeah, I'm not gonna do any of that.

1810
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: As far as remembering that shit, I don't too. Don't

1811
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: make assumptions about anyone's gender identity. A gender pronouns you

1812
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: don't know who may be transgender. Yeah, probably not gonna

1813
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: ever do that. I don't mind being corrected though, which

1814
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: is a little bit different.

1815
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 3: I guess.

1816
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1817
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 4: I don't take offense if somebody says, well, call me

1818
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 4: a heat and you're like, okay.

1819
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have be mad. But I'm also not

1820
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 2: gonna say y'all. Was hanging out with a person the

1821
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: other day and they were saying, let's go get some

1822
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: ice cream, and they went to a bathroom like that. Yeah,

1823
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 2: I'll probably never be able to catch under that. I'll

1824
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:51,759
Speaker 2: fuck it up somehow.

1825
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Three.

1826
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: Gender identity isn't the same as set the sexual assigned

1827
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,959
Speaker 2: at birth. Gender expressions isn't the same as sexual orientation.

1828
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: I think we both knew that one. Number four, transgender

1829
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: and gender non conforming people face rampid discrimination in every

1830
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: area of life, education, deployment, family like, public accommodation, housing, health, police, a, jails,

1831
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: and ID documents.

1832
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about that all the time. Number five.

1833
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: This button was made to raise awareness about transgender issues

1834
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: and resources on campus and recognize the Transgender Day of

1835
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Rememborance titor. This is a this is hell annually on

1836
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: November twentieth to commemorate the lives loss due the anti

1837
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: transgender violence.

1838
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 3: All right, so back to the letter. Where were we at? Oh?

1839
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Here we go?

1840
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 2: So number so oh basically she copies the paste the

1841
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 2: four points. Also, here's a summary of a report on

1842
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: Color Lines about like violence and against LGBT victims.

1843
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 3: Seventy are people of color.

1844
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: I believe that the study also found that transgender people

1845
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 2: and people of color are to each twice is likely

1846
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: to experience violence or discrimination is non transgender white people.

1847
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Transgender people of color are almost two point five times.

1848
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 3: As likely to experience discrimination as the white peers.

1849
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 2: I think that we want what that we want to

1850
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 2: encourage and move our society toward to forward, to become

1851
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 2: more accepting of a variety of gender expressions, gender identities,

1852
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: and sexual orientations. But I think given the disturbing, despicable,

1853
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: and common brutal murders of transgender women of color, I

1854
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: just don't see why this woman in particular needs to disclose.

1855
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1856
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's the thing, is like in addition to that,

1857
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,879
Speaker 2: because like I think that is kind of the elephant

1858
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 2: in the room is forget for a second about it

1859
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: about you, And I think everybody's thinking about it in

1860
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 2: terms of them, Like, I'm a straight person. If you

1861
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: are having sex with me, you need to tell me

1862
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: what's going on. And I understand that, and I do

1863
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: get it, and I do think it's not unreasonable for

1864
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: a person to feel hurt. I do. I also don't

1865
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: think it's unreasonable for them to feel like, Wow, I'm

1866
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: not hurt because you tricked me quote unquote trick for

1867
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: anybody listening quote unquote trick. I think it's part it

1868
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 2: would not be unreasonable for them to feel like you

1869
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: didn't trust me even though we had sex, and now

1870
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm hurt by that. But I think that's to me

1871
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: in the same vein as people that have sex before

1872
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 2: they tell each other, they love each other, you know

1873
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, it doesn't like it doesn't necessarily

1874
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: have to be this violent thing.

1875
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be like this really hurtful thing.

1876
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 2: And I think people make concessions all the time, but

1877
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 2: this is one of those times where it's a little

1878
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: bit of homophobia. It's a little bit of uptightness about sex,

1879
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 2: a little bit of uptightness about sexual orientation that causes

1880
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: them to have this really like visceral reaction, Like this

1881
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: is a line in the scene. And when you cannot

1882
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: tell me, you need to tell me, like you need

1883
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 2: to tell me right away.

1884
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 3: I need to know.

1885
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's because you're thinking only about yourself.

1886
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: You think about the other person on any level where

1887
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 2: you care about him. I think you have to be

1888
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more open minded to the idea is

1889
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: not so black and white.

1890
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1891
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 3: That's my only point, you know, I anyway, that's my

1892
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: only point.

1893
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Like Rod, my quick reading of this letter made it

1894
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 2: seem clear that it would be unclear whether the letter

1895
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: writer would become increasingly violent no matter how this woman disclosed,

1896
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 2: and the threats of violence and the brutal ways that

1897
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: many of them are murdered. Are just I'm just contemptuous

1898
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 2: of the whole trans panic defense and the same way

1899
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 2: that the gay panic defense is equally fucked up. Honestly,

1900
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 2: this commentary and the clear transphobia and discuss he conveys

1901
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 2: for his uneventful whopping three month non sex dating history

1902
01:34:56,120 --> 01:35:00,759
Speaker 2: just yeah, yeah, it was all you know, it's subtext

1903
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 2: with God damn to me, it was so obvious, like

1904
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: this ain't the person to tell like ever, you know

1905
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like this guy could not handle it.

1906
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: It was this dude was mad for the rest of

1907
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 2: his life. You don't want them to see the baby,

1908
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Like we're past, we actually passed the three months you

1909
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 2: married somebody, you had a baby with them, and now

1910
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: you and they weren't they the family didn't show up,

1911
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: they're not talking, and now you're like, don't let them

1912
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 2: see the baby either. It's like, God damn, when does

1913
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 2: it end?

1914
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 7: Man?

1915
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Like obviously you had some hang ups about this that

1916
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: went beyond just you lied to me. Y'all never even

1917
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: had sex, So why are you so mad? And you

1918
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: married the person that lied that anyway, It's crazy. I

1919
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 2: was glad to hear that the parents backed up their

1920
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 2: daughter Randa.

1921
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 3: And shunned him. I kind of was too, man. I

1922
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 3: feel like they were on the side the right.

1923
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 2: Honestly, I have a similar expectation and slash indecision of

1924
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 2: coming out as queer slash lesbian, although clearly it's not

1925
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: the same, and I have sis privilege that I don't

1926
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: face the levels of discrimination, hatred and violence as my

1927
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 2: fellow trans women.

1928
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 3: But I don't always come out.

1929
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 2: When a stranger, almost always white and male, hits on me,

1930
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: I just reject the reject him, but I don't always

1931
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 2: specify that it isn't personal. These men always take my

1932
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: rejection as a queer woman a personal rejection because privilege,

1933
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: and they are idiots. It's hard to make the analogous

1934
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 2: situation because I'm not trans and not.

1935
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 3: Dating these men that hit on me. Yeah, yeah, that's

1936
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 3: true too.

1937
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: But people have issues with well, I'm straight, why don't

1938
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 1: you want me?

1939
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not into you, but I'm put I'm a man,

1940
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 4: You're like still not into you? Like y'all don't like

1941
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 4: people don't have personal preference no matter what this sexuality is.

1942
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 3: And I mean it is male privilege.

1943
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's definitely cis gender to privilege, which is

1944
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: a word I'm hopefully never used after the day, but

1945
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: it is that privilege where it's like, since I'm straight,

1946
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't think of the world in terms of, well,

1947
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: maybe this woman or a person that appears to be

1948
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 2: a woman to me is turning me down for any

1949
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: other reason than she doesn't.

1950
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:16,440
Speaker 3: Like me personally as a person. It's very hard, yeah,

1951
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 3: although it must. It would suck.

1952
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Actually if if they were even bigger jerks and were like, oh,

1953
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: because you're fucking lesbian. Oh yeah, she's not in me

1954
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 2: because she's a fucking lesbian, that would probably be worse

1955
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 2: because those people are even more assholes than people that

1956
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 2: are just like she.

1957
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 3: Doesn't like me.

1958
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the assholes fact that everybody won't.

1959
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: You as everybody didn't want you. Guys, it happens.

1960
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: But uh, even with some acquaintances, neighbors, et cetera.

1961
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't always come out as gay.

1962
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 2: I see it as if I need you to know,

1963
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 2: I will make you aware of it. You know, It's

1964
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: funny because that's how I treat people. That's people I

1965
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: suspect they're gay. There's people I meet all the time.

1966
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, or that chick or that whatever. I

1967
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 2: don't know what they're into. I don't think they're you know,

1968
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: like they might be in to do, they might be

1969
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 2: into women, they might be into whatever. But if they

1970
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: don't want to tell me that shit, or it doesn't

1971
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: come up in conversation or whatever, I'm not going to

1972
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 2: be like, you need to disclose because I don't care.

1973
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: Like and this is like this, I understand. There's this

1974
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 2: comedian I forget who it was, but he made a

1975
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 2: really good point and I know what he's saying where

1976
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: he's like the worst kind of ally quoter quotes with

1977
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: people that are like I don't even care.

1978
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck about you getting married. Go ahead.

1979
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 3: He's like, why can't you just be on my side?

1980
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Like I do want you to get married you're gay,

1981
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 2: But I gotta be honest. I don't care about straight

1982
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: people getting married. I don't care about gay people get married.

1983
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't care who you're dating. If you're not fucking me,

1984
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 2: I don't really see why we would need to have

1985
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 2: any issues over that.

1986
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 3: You're consending adults. You're not doing anything illegal.

1987
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: So when I say I don't care, I know it

1988
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: sounds fucked up, but I'm not an ally in this.

1989
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be an ally. Like I said,

1990
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: I much rather be your friend than be your ally too.

1991
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm completely okay with with.

1992
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 3: People.

1993
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 2: They could be fucking anybody, and if they don't ever

1994
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: tell me, I don't care, Like I just can we

1995
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 2: be friends? You know what I'm saying. If you want

1996
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 2: to tell me, that's fine too. I wouldn't be like, oh,

1997
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 2: you fucking dude, I'm out. We can't be friends no more.

1998
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 2: But I like, to me it really uh to me.

1999
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 2: True equality is me not giving a fuck the same

2000
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: way that you know. Now, I might be weird like that.

2001
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 2: To be honest, guys, I'm not sure that that's normal.

2002
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: I legitimately have met many of my friend's girlfriends, and

2003
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: if they don't date for like a year, I don't

2004
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 2: learn her name.

2005
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, because it's it's not worth to hassle.

2006
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, But I wouldn't say I'm not sure

2007
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 2: that that's normal. So I don't don't count that as

2008
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I might just be an asshole.

2009
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 4: I know I am because I was like, oh, well,

2010
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 4: he'll have another chicken three weeks from now.

2011
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna waste my time.

2012
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't even say that. It's not that's what

2013
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 3: I think.

2014
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 2: I just go if I don't see you for a year,

2015
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm not wasting the brain space. That's it. It's not

2016
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: even you don't even have to be a player. Y'all

2017
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: could be in love. I still be like, you know what, man,

2018
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 2: If she makes it to next Christmas, I'll try to

2019
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: remember her name.

2020
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: Is Sally, Yes, If not, nope.

2021
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: And I still regret the ones that I do know

2022
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: their names and it didn't work out me too, Like fuck, man,

2023
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: I gotta remember Patty for the rest of my goddamn

2024
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 2: life now because of you.

2025
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 3: Can you make that shit work?

2026
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: I agree with Karen that it'd be better to be upfront,

2027
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 2: honest as much as possible, and dating the romantic partner

2028
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: slash vetting selection, But based on this letter writer, it

2029
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 2: doesn't seem clear that Rondo was putting him towards a

2030
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 2: more romantic slash life partner commitment category. Anyways, I had

2031
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: wanted to write more, especially because as a grad student

2032
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 2: in biology, I would like to spend more time tackling

2033
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: slash breaking down the arguments that try to argue biology

2034
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 2: dot science biology and science as a means to eliminate

2035
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: erase transgender identities, when the biology of sex aka science

2036
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 2: aka science is.

2037
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 3: Just as much a social construct as well.

2038
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,839
Speaker 2: Anyway, thank you for making the shows accessible and producing

2039
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: so much content. I can't afford a membership, but we'll

2040
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: try to get some of my tax refund back to you.

2041
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 2: Rod's commentary on twelve is what finally made me try

2042
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: to listen to a show and see what other types

2043
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 2: of podcasts are out there. Best Jewels, Well, welcome to

2044
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 2: listen to the Blackout Tips.

2045
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, sweetie.

2046
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a bit different, as we can go

2047
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: from talking about bullshit to talking about queer transgender.

2048
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 3: LGBT issues to bullshit.

2049
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know what, fuck Sue Park, But listen,

2050
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,839
Speaker 2: let's talk about these transgender issues.

2051
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 3: Just kidding. Everybody nobody said fuck sweet Park. Do not

2052
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 3: write the show?

2053
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 4: Uh?

2054
01:41:54,240 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 2: SHANEA writes s Yeah. Shanna writes saying last week's feedback show, Hey,

2055
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 2: Karen and Rod, just wanted to clarify a couple points

2056
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 2: from my email last week. But before I do, I

2057
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 2: noticed that the last few times I emailed, I've been

2058
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: interrupted by a phone call from Chill honestly, it's an honor.

2059
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 2: And this week the epic Tippy Award controversy happened in

2060
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: the middle of my email. And if you're gonna get interrupted,

2061
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: that's the way to do it.

2062
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: Yes.

2063
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 2: As far as the New listener voicemail and conspiracy about

2064
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 2: black men wearing sundress or wearing dresses, he came out

2065
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,719
Speaker 2: of the sun dresses anyway, sah, I love sundresses, but anyway,

2066
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 2: not to get all scholarly, which means I am about

2067
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: to get scholarly. There was a government there was a

2068
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 2: government report that was released in the nineteen sixties called

2069
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 2: the Moyna Hand Report that stated that female led families

2070
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 2: or the reason that the Black community was failing. This

2071
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: idea about the feminized man and the dominant woman is

2072
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,759
Speaker 2: not new. It's a racist caricature, Tyler Perry. It could

2073
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 2: be arguments perpetuating, perpetuating stereotype. Kanye West is wearing skirts

2074
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 2: for fashion. There's nothing about the skirt that makes someone

2075
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 2: less of a man, just like don't make someone less

2076
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 2: of a woman. I would recommend that she get her

2077
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 2: information from books in our YouTube.

2078
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 3: As far as my email, I.

2079
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: Would clarify that my nervousness about the youth by using

2080
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 2: the word tricks. Trick comes from the idea that trans

2081
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: people are trans because they want to trick people. It's

2082
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: one of those phrases that stems from transphobia. But I

2083
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 2: hear you A person would feel trick in the sense

2084
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:22,799
Speaker 2: of tricked in the sense of designs.

2085
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I'm saying.

2086
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 2: I don't think I think that this person who wrote

2087
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 2: that that email specifically even you know what I mean,

2088
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 2: and I like, I'm not sure what better word encapsulates

2089
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 2: the feeling they would have, because I don't want to

2090
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: say a trade, because that's almost worse, you know what

2091
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I mean, But they would feel something along the lines

2092
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: of I was tricked. However you want to phrase it.

2093
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 2: This guy would have felt that, you know what I mean,

2094
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't know. I honestly don't know what

2095
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: words you say, And I don't know how you avoid

2096
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 2: that situation if you're gonna tell them after you sleep

2097
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 2: together and there they've been under the assumption and you

2098
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: let you led them to believe, and you let them.

2099
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 3: Go along with that assumption that you.

2100
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Were of one gender, and you go, well, it's a

2101
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 2: little more complicated. I mean, you just have to hope

2102
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 2: that that person's open minded enough to not have those

2103
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 2: that that that fear and whatever hang ups around them,

2104
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You really have to hope

2105
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 2: that that person isn't that you know, that type of person,

2106
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 2: because there there's gonna be some emotions to be dealt with,

2107
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 2: and I think both sides have to be considerate of

2108
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: that fact.

2109
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: True.

2110
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: You know, it almost would be worse if.

2111
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: They said I don't care at all, like I would almost,

2112
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 2: but this is a big deal, just like my life.

2113
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I don't give a fuck anyway, I

2114
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 2: ain't gonna talk about it no more.

2115
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 6: Ah.

2116
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 2: I guess it will probably be better if this like

2117
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 2: I knew the whole time. I wonder they would be like.

2118
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 3: You tricked me, because why do you tell me you

2119
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 3: knew this inception. Secondly, I've only been in relationships with

2120
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 3: trans men.

2121
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Uh, so I'm sure that the stigma related to sis

2122
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 2: man being with trans women is different than trans men

2123
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 2: and cis women. All right, I won't lie. I'm confused.

2124
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: I don't know trans men is what is that female body?

2125
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 2: But they feel they are but but they're inside but

2126
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: they're man.

2127
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.

2128
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 4: Yes, female body, but male Okay, Okay. So I'm sure

2129
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 4: that the stigma related to CIS men being with trans

2130
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 4: women is different than transmen being with CIS women.

2131
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll degree.

2132
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 2: In each case, the people were part of my social group,

2133
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 2: so I already knew that they were trans before we dated.

2134
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 2: I have had someone come out as trans to me

2135
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 2: while we were in a relationship and after we became intimate,

2136
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 2: but that person knew I was okay with being with

2137
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 2: trans people, so it wasn't an issue.

2138
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 3: That probably helps too.

2139
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you will say you come to the fullfront,

2140
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 4: you were like, well, I'm open, it doesn't bother me.

2141
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 4: And it was something well, I feel like I need

2142
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 4: to tell you this, and she's when them people go

2143
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 4: will it don't matter to me.

2144
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: But it did require that we have a long talk

2145
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 2: about what that meant before we could continue being intimate.

2146
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the thing.

2147
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 2: Some people that long talk, we might be angry, that

2148
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 2: long talk might be you know, hurt. You just never know, man,

2149
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 2: especially when sex is involved. You just you really never

2150
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 2: know how someone's gonna take it. I mean, I guess

2151
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,719
Speaker 2: you never know anyway. But some people put a huge

2152
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: emphasis on their sexual activity and how they connect.

2153
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 3: To other people.

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01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 2: True, So I could definitely see why people would be like, oh, no,

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01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: we've had sex and I did not know this thing

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01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 2: about you, you know, just to try and shed some

2157
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 2: light on riots questioning about how this works. For trans

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01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 2: people who are open with their partners. It's similar to

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01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: straight cys gender couples talking about sexual likes and dislikes.

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01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 2: For instance, a person might say, I'm a trans man,

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01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 2: so I'm not comfortable beings touched on my chest if

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01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 2: the person hasn't had top surgery, so like, maybe they

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01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: have boobs and they're like in my mind and my

2164
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 2: body and the way I feel I should have a

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01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 2: like a male chest, and so I don't want you

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01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 2: suck it on my titties be cuz that's weird. Men

2167
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: don't typically like having they nipple sucked and shit, So

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01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,959
Speaker 2: I could see how that would change, like some sexual

2169
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 2: prefaces and things of that nature, for people who are

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01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,759
Speaker 2: with folks who have never been with the trans person.

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01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 2: They might explain that the body looks one way, but

2172
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 2: that sexual preferences and practices conform to those the straight

2173
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 2: couples as always, No two relationships are the same.

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01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 3: That's true. Well, actually, you know there's gotta be two

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01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 3: that are the same for ever.

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01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,799
Speaker 2: Know, I'm not trans, and I don't want to speak

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01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 2: for trans people, but that's my two cents. As an aside,

2178
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 2: the feedback show is one of my favorite parts of

2179
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 2: the Blackout Tips. We can participate in the discussion, and

2180
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: assuming our comments.

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01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 3: Are reasonable or close to reasonable.

2182
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:13,719
Speaker 2: You'll you always have you all, you'll always respectfully consider them.

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01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 2: It's the way grown ups have conversations and lost art.

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01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 2: Until next time. Shanna, Well, I say boycott Shana. No

2185
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: what I'm being unreasonable?

2186
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: I was just kidd y'all. Don't boycott Shane. I'm a

2187
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: big fan fan.

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01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: No, thank you for the back shows our favorite shows too.

2189
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the least work I know, right, I

2190
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 2: have to look up any of these articles. Twenty fourteen

2191
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 2: Tippy nominations. Leondard brother says, what a party people? Just

2192
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 2: checking in with a quick email once again, I kind

2193
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 2: of wish, I wish. I want to wish Karen a

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01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: happy birthday you. I hope you enjoyed it, lady. Anyways,

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01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: as most people have probably heard by now, Chill and

2196
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: I had a rap battle over the Best Feedback Award

2197
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: for twenty thirteen. I was chilling mind of my own

2198
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 2: business and boom, I heard her dissy on the record, so,

2199
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: like any good MC, I responded with my own bars.

2200
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: She had that takeover verse. I came back with that

2201
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 2: ether Chill is my nigga. We laughed about it on

2202
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 2: the phone afterwards, but she came for my neck and

2203
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 2: that set off a pretty funny feedback episode moment. So

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01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 2: because of that, I feel it's only right that the

2205
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 2: people nominate her. And now for twenty fourteen Best Argument Award,

2206
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 2: I wanted Tippy and she won one for twenty thirteen.

2207
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 2: She didn't like the fact that I beat her for

2208
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 2: Best Feedback and went on that rant like only she

2209
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 2: could do. Y'all know the rest from then on. So yes,

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01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 2: nominate Chilling Out for an award we can share with

2211
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 2: each other.

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01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 3: They didn't. I like that neither one of them nominated themselves.

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01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm too humble to nominate myself, but I'm too bragged

2214
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,520
Speaker 2: do sit to let it go unsaid?

2215
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: Yep, we know y'all gonna do it.

2216
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh and since I'm tossing out nominations. I want to

2217
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: throw my name in that for best feedback once again. Well,

2218
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 2: we'll only taking nominations through that thread, so this email

2219
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: don't count. The champ should be at least considered for

2220
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: it again, right, that might not work in some categories,

2221
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: but it does in that one.

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01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: Anyway.

2223
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm about to end this, but I gotta give a

2224
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 2: shout out to all my fellow Tipy Award winners.

2225
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 3: We did it.

2226
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 2: We sure did, Leonard, We sure did. Shout out to

2227
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 2: those who were nominated but didn't win too. That's it

2228
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: for now. I holler at y'all.

2229
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: That's me yep.

2230
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 3: Shout out to.

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01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 2: Our girls from the PiS's Life, Kai and Letitia. They

2232
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 2: wrote this, good afternoon, April Is. I don't know if

2233
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 2: I know how to pronounce this sarci Adonis Month, awareness

2234
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 2: month for Letitia's mother as well as comedian Bernie Mack,

2235
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 2: both passing this diseased and the ever to spread awareness

2236
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:48,759
Speaker 2: out of their memories.

2237
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 3: We're prepared a short PSA about.

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01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 4: I think the sarci Adonis and pronunciation in the chat

2239
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 4: Scio dosis what they say.

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 3: Let me see what's in the chat. Make sure I

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,839
Speaker 3: got all right, sarcus doses, sarco.

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01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 3: That's not even out soccer dosis.

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01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 2: Y'all looking at the same spelling I'm looking at all right,

2245
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna believe y'all. Sarcadosis well actually has a PSA

2246
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 2: attached to it. I'll just play this, see why, I

2247
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: can just play this for everybody, and uh, we can

2248
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 2: do that.

2249
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Coworker have it.

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01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 3: That's how they know how to pronounce it sarcadosis.

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 2: But whatever, it's the old black lady that got that's

2252
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 2: a coworker as she's pronouncing it wrong.

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01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 3: That's possible.

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01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 9: Hi, I am just Leticia from the Pisces Life Network

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01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 9: and the BAP Ladies launch show. I wanted to tell

2256
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 9: you about a cause that's near and dear to my heart.

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01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 9: April is National Sarca Dosis Awareness Month. That's sarca dosis

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01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 9: s A R D O I D O S I

2259
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 9: s now. You may be wondering what this is. Sarca

2260
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 9: dosis is basically an autoimmune disease that can affect any

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01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 9: organ in the body, specifically the lungs, your skin, as

2262
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 9: well as your lymp nose within your chest. Sometimes you

2263
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 9: have symptoms like wheezing, or coughing or feeling short of

2264
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 9: breath or chest pain. You may not have any symptoms

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01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 9: at all. You can also have this disease diagnosed through

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01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 9: chest X rays, and there's also a blood test that

2267
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 9: gives a baseline level that may indicate some levels are off.

2268
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 9: That's called an ACE test APE. My mother lost her

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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 9: battle to this disease nearly twenty years ago. At the

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01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 9: time when she was diagnosed, there was very little information out,

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01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 9: but since then we are working very hard to continue

2272
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 9: to provide good solid information to help people who may

2273
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 9: be newly diagnosed with this disease. Clinical research is also ongoing.

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01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 9: So what can you do to help during this month

2275
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 9: and during the year. You can make sure that you

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01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 9: talk with your own physician if you're experiencing any of

2277
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 9: the symptoms that I mentioned. You can also go to

2278
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 9: the National Heart and Lung and Blood Institute for more information,

2279
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 9: and you can also support research efforts like those from

2280
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 9: the Burning Mac Foundation. Thank you so much for your

2281
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 9: time and listening.

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01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 3: Boom, thank you.

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01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,759
Speaker 1: This is Letitia. I love your voice.

2284
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,919
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, that's a tank. It's just Letitia.

2285
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 2: This is Letitia.

2286
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 3: Is not what she said.

2287
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 1: Concerned you Areian. This is Letitia, I love you girl.

2288
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, thank y'all, and uh yeah, no problem, don't

2289
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 2: mind spread no word. We don't hot fire. Last one

2290
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 2: this from Prince Lauran. He says, what's going on, Ronnie Karen.

2291
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the fallout from the Comedy Central tweet.

2292
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 2: The Asian Americans at my school have been very open

2293
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 2: with having discussion on the topic. The comment I left

2294
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 2: for one episode was not my own thoughts, but points

2295
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 2: that they felt needed to be expressed. Oh okay, okay,

2296
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: so you basically pulled the Stewie park on us.

2297
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 3: So there wasn't even your own thoughts.

2298
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 2: Bro, You're just gonna write the show with somebody else

2299
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 2: thoughts because you thought that would be what's hot in

2300
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 2: the streets. Like we don't have Asian listeners, Like we

2301
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: don't have people that that that that could that if

2302
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: they felt they need to back up, they could back

2303
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 2: up up out of a real place and not some

2304
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 2: devil advocate shit.

2305
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 3: Haun Prince Laron.

2306
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 2: They do feel that Asians are a prototypical target for

2307
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 2: insensitive jokes, and Cobell confirmed it. The debate stayed particularly

2308
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 2: on topic and did not follow the path of the

2309
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 2: hashtag cancel cobet fell down. I kind of felt like

2310
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:25,839
Speaker 2: Rod the way I was mediating the talks. Then I

2311
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 2: talled upon some TBGWT knowledge and play Asian Girls for

2312
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 2: everyone to hear.

2313
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 3: It was over.

2314
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: After that, it was a fresh and that a little

2315
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 2: weird to witness debates that didn't even feel like that

2316
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 2: it was going to pop off. Oh, I did not

2317
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: miss the irony that white people were comfortable discussing the

2318
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 2: racial word that involved agents and a place where agents

2319
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: are largely represented, but they have stayed away from all

2320
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: of the black topics.

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01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 3: Well, do you mean white people? What is he talking about?

2322
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 2: The irony that white people were comfortable discussing the racial

2323
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 2: issue that involved Asians in a place where Asians are

2324
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 2: largely represented, but they stayed away from out. Oh okay,

2325
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 2: I'll see what he's saying. The form wherever he hell

2326
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 2: just debate at his school or whatever. When black shit

2327
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 2: pops off, they don't have a Black people form to

2328
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 2: talk about black issues.

2329
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 3: But for this Asian shit, they were okay with that.

2330
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of overlap man with

2331
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 2: this ship with Oh so when this group's in trouble,

2332
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: everybody cares when that group's in trouble, nobody gives a fuck,

2333
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: and I think the Asian thing is more of a Historically,

2334
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: they've been seen as the minority group that will take it,

2335
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 2: so I understand that.

2336
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 3: But for the record, it's weird to me.

2337
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 2: That they picked Colbert because to me, this isn't an

2338
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 2: example of that, because he's done too much shit about

2339
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: too many other groups to pick this group to have

2340
01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: this stand off, Like, to me, this all makes you

2341
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 2: look more selfish and racist. But it's like, well, I

2342
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 2: didn't mind Colbert making jokes about you people, yep, black people,

2343
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Latinos like I mean, I didn't mind that. Also, I

2344
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 2: didn't care about the context because the context matters when

2345
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 2: he's talking about y'all.

2346
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 3: But when he's talking about us, then fuck context, you know.

2347
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 2: So in a way, it's almost worse to me that

2348
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: they're picking and choosing this shit, because if you pick

2349
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: another target, like say Bill o'reiley said something about Asian

2350
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 2: people one day, it's like, huh, well, we do get

2351
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 2: mad at Bill O'Reilly when he talks about black people,

2352
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: so makes sense to say they keep it going for

2353
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 2: agents as opposed to we never ever ever have any

2354
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 2: problem with Steven Colbert. But then he said some about

2355
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 2: agents and gods. That's too far. If you want to

2356
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 2: talk about Native Americans, want to talk about black people,

2357
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 2: want to talk about he wants to do he wants

2358
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 2: to do that skit where he has the spray tad

2359
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 2: and he has lost chickens and does.

2360
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 3: Everything in Spanish.

2361
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 2: Completely fine, no one thinks that's race is But the

2362
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 2: secondy says anything about as of people, we gotta get

2363
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,959
Speaker 2: them off the air. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't seem authentic

2364
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 2: to me. Also, the show has been spectacled for the

2365
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 2: last couple of months. The show has always been great,

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Speaker 2: but you niggas have taken it to the next level.

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Speaker 2: I think Rod and Karen might be on a type

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Speaker 2: of podcast.

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Speaker 3: Peds Bronco Prod. Prince Lawn.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Prince Lawn, and uh yeah, we definitely try to

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Speaker 2: do our best work. We do thanks to everybody who's listening,

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Speaker 2: all the people who wrote in, the people who donated,

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Speaker 2: the people who gave.

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Speaker 3: Us five star reviews. Couldn't do this show without you guys.

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Speaker 2: And I definitely enjoy, you know, doing the show, and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate all y'all so much. Big week coming up

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Speaker 2: this week. Tomorrow we have the ladies from Whiskey Way,

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Speaker 2: the Moonshine Tuesday return to them Thrones and return to Patrese.

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Speaker 8: Yes.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are excited about that,

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Speaker 4: Like people been hitting us up like we don't like

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Speaker 4: we're gonna forget to do it.

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Speaker 2: And it hasn't been confirmed yet, but hopefully Wednesday will have.

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Speaker 3: Andy and Randolph from Three Guys on.

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Speaker 2: So big week coming up, man, So some of people's

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Speaker 2: favorite podcast is coming on the show. And hope you

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Speaker 2: guys all enjoy it. We'll be back tomorrow at ten am.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I love you, Nah