WEBVTT - Matilda Castren 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.440 It's the Son of a Butch podcast. We normally come 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.200 to you every Wednesday, coming to you Thursday. This week 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.760 I was up at the LPGA Tournament of Champions and 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:20.440 this week's guest LPGA player Matilda Castren. Twenty twenty one 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.599 was kind of the big breakout year for her. She 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.760 won on the LPGA Tour. That year, she won on 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.560 the Ladies' European Tour. That year, she made the Solheim 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.200 Cup they won. She played her golf college golf at 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.400 Florida State, where she was a seven time winner. And 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:33.720 one of the things I want to try and do 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.760 with the pod is is get as many players and listen, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.960 everybody wants to talk to the superstars and golf right, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.440 all the household names and stuff, but I think it's 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.800 important to just talk to players on whatever tour and 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.120 just kind of get their story and kind of get 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.880 their perspective on what's going on in professional golf. Matilda 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 is you know, she's not flying around on private jets 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.000 and building big giant houses, just a regular tour player 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.400 who's a winner, who's won a Solheim Cup and just 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.280 trying to win as many golf tournaments as she can. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.040 So really cool interview. I got to sit down with 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.800 her a couple of weeks ago, really like her golf 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.800 swing and really like her story. But before we get 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.839 to that, let's talk about our friends at Cobra Golf. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.639 They've got a new driver out, the Cobra Dark Speed. Listen. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.000 It went straight into my bag, and the first thing 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.840 about it is a love, a love the way it 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.120 looks drivers. I think drivers are a lot like putters. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.320 If you're gonna get a driver and you're gonna put 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.480 it in your bag, it's got to have a really 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.800 really good look to it. I like the color combinations 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.440 this year, a lot of Matt black, but I like it. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.520 And again, it's one of those drivers that just looks 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.360 fast to me. Three models. The LS model, which is 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:53.120 low launch, low spin, and if you're that type of player. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.240 The guys that Cobra, the R and D guys, they 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.440 feel like the eight degree LS model is kind of 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.280 their rate car model. So if you're looking for a 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.400 really really fast driver and you need low launch, low spin, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.880 the LS is the model for you. They've got the 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.960 X model, which is the best of both worlds low spin, 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.320 a little bit faster ball speed, but the stability that 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.040 you're looking for. And then the Max, which is the 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.120 most forgiving of the three. It's got a really heavy 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.680 weight in the back, it's got the highest MLI and 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.360 it's the most forgiving. So three different drivers in the 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.519 new Dark Speed lineup from Cobra Golf. Like I said, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.000 I like the way it looks. I've had it in 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.040 the bag since you know, probably November, and I really 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.960 like the feel of it. I like the sound of it, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.720 and I think Cobra's on to a winner. So if 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.120 you are in the market for a new driver in 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.760 twenty twenty four, don't sleep on the Cobra Dark Speed. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.480 Give it a try. Three different models. Whatever you do 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.000 in the golf swing, it is going to whatever your 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.280 game is, Cobra has a driver that will help you 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.520 improve you're driving and enjoy your golf even more so. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.720 Like I said, Matilda Castrin cool story places the LPGA tour. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.839 I'm excited for everyone to hear her story. So sit 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:20.040 back and enjoy this one. Matilda breakout year in twenty 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.000 twenty one on the LPGA, twenty twenty two and now 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.280 into twenty twenty three. What do you feel like it's 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.800 been different about the last couple of years, because obviously 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.920 you win your first LPGA in the same year that 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.120 you win on the LED, and it's kind of one 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.480 of those years to where it's like, Wow, you know, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.880 you win a couple of tournaments and kind of you're 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.880 on a bigger stage. What do you feel like this 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.520 year was like for you? Because I looked at some 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.920 of the stats and it looks like you didn't necessarily 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.720 hit the irons as well this year is maybe you 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.800 did the last couple of years. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.280 No, I mean, definitely, my my iron shots were a 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.080 lot worse than last couple of years. Really off the tea, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.280 I kind of struggled not all year, but most of 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.160 the year, So that didn't put me in the best 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.400 position to hit a great shot into the green. But yeah, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.080 I think it was a lot of expectation from myself 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.320 and I kind of let the expectation of others also 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.159 get to me. I kind of took a lot of 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:26.119 pressure on that, and I mean I had some goals 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.040 this year that that I didn't accomplish. I wanted to 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.480 play in the Solheim, I wanted to play in all 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.160 the majors. I didn't get into the US Open, so 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.800 I was kind of like chasing a lot of that, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.200 and I ended up playing a ton of golf and 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.400 I feel like I kind of exhausted myself. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.400 It's a catch twenty two, right. When you're not playing well, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.800 there are times where you want to take time off 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.400 to maybe practice or just say, hey, listen, I'm going 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.479 to do a reset. But when you're not playing well 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.720 and your status isn't great and you look at how 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.480 many tournaments you've got of the course of the year, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.400 have to sometimes keep playing when you're not playing your best. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.640 And I think that's something that a lot of people 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.960 don't realize is it can get really difficult when you 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.160 get into these difficult times of the year because sometimes 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.279 you just say, listen, I want to break. I'm going 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.160 to take a couple of weeks off. But the season's 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.160 right in the middle of it, and the tournaments are 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.840 kind of coming thinking fast, and you have a timeline 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.159 and you're like, Okay, i haven't got enough to the 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.080 best start this year, so I've got to keep playing 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.360 when I probably need a break or a reset for 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:32.840 the next couple weeks exactly. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.360 I mean trying to qualify for the Songheim. I knew 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.080 I needed to play certain events and I knew that 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.960 captain was going to be at some of them and 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.240 I needed to kind of show my best. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.240 Then, you know, on the PGA Tour they call that 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.080 Wrighter cup itis, right, So you have those guys that 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.840 are kind of have that year it's a Wright Cup year. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.840 They're near the right cup there, they're being talked about 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.839 as somebody that could make it. They're probably going to 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.800 have to get a pick, and then you're running out 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.040 of two ornaments. You know that there are spots available 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.960 and you're trying to play your best. What's that like 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.719 from do you feel like sometimes that's a situation to 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:14.320 where the goal can sometimes almost get in the way. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.400 It's something that you can want so much. I mean, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.520 there were so many people this year, both on the 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.560 men's and the women's side, that wanted to be on 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.240 the Solheim Cup, that wanted to be on the Ryder Cup, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.440 and towards the end of the year they actually don't 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.040 get it done because they're putting a lot of pressure 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:29.680 on themselves. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.479 Yeah, I mean, you have, like, you know what you 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:37.880 need to do and it just doesn't really the more 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.600 you want it, you just have to kind of put 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.520 them on the back burner. I tried to tell myself 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.200 it's a result of you know, doing the daily things well, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.760 and like that's not it's my goal, but I shouldn't 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.839 only focus on that. I should focus on going to practice. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.240 I'm doing my little things that I do every day, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.919 and just tried to play a good golf and the 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.080 tournaments and not just focus on the end goal. But 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.560 I think it was really hard for me to get that, 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.840 like into my brain. I was still just thinking of 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.960 the rankings, and even though I try not to look, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.240 it was still. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.520 In my mind so possible not to look. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.520 Yeah, I mean, obviously I really really wanted to play 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.640 in Spain. I haven't played a so Home Cup in Europe, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.200 so I was really looking forward to that. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.080 But do you feel like I remember saying this to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.520 Brooks Cup and when Brooks was starting out on the 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.880 PGA Tour and he hadn't been on a Ryder Cup before, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.960 and then he got on his first one at Hazeltee. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.040 I kept saying to him, you will never not want 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.280 to be on one of these after you experienced the 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.360 Solheim Cup. For you as an experience, having tasted that 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.080 and been a part of that. What's that experience like 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.640 and what does it make you? What are the things 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.120 that you like about the Solheim Cup that make you 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.000 say to yourself, Okay, I have to be on the 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.720 next team. What is it about those weeks that are 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.840 so so unique in so special. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.280 I love the team spirit. I mean Team Europe we 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.240 had such an amazing energy and the bus is going 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.680 to turn them up to the golf course and like 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.280 playing together practice rounds. Everyone is just like there for 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.920 this same goal, and the energy is just so amazing. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.840 And I remember being there and telling myself I never 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.400 want to miss it and I want to play in 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.000 all of them, and I thought, for sure, I'm going 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.160 to do it. And it's not that simple. You've got 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.040 to play really amazing and earn your spot in the team. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.160 And I mean, I still have it in me that 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.319 I don't want to miss it again. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.600 So and the pressure in Solheim Cups very much like 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.520 the Ryder Cup. It's a very different pressure than you 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.080 feel week to week on the LPGA Tour, because first 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.199 of all, you've got a team, you've got captains, you're 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.600 playing for something bigger. What's that pressure like? And when 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.400 you first experienced it. When did you say, Okay, this 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.280 is a completely different feeling, pressure wise than what I'm 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.000 used to in stroke play events. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.840 The first tea on the first day, we're the first match, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.040 me and Anna, and she hit the first t shot 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.240 and I was like, dank, God, she's hitting the first 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.959 tea shot because I was so nervous. You know, number 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.240 one and ten the tea box were together at Enverness 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.840 and the stand is behind and there's just so many people, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.840 the energy, everyone's screaming and the music is loud, and 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.520 it's just so different than anything I've ever experienced, than 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.480 any other tournament I've ever I'm ever gonna play in. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.000 So it's just an immense amount of pressure. You're not 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:40.360 just playing for yourself, like the success and the failure 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.400 is for the team. So it's just so much more. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.760 I've said this before on the pod, and I got 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.320 to experience this in Rome a couple about a month 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.880 ago for the US team. My favorite things about Ryder 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.280 Cups and soul Hunt Cups are no different those late 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.760 in the day matches to where there's really only a 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.520 couple of matches on the golf course, maybe there's only 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.839 one the entire team is there, all the team carts 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.480 are there, all the caddies are there, all the wives 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.319 and spouses, everybody is there, and you're all of a 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:16.200 sudden you feel like, okay, it's I feel like this 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.600 is something really really bigger than I am. But it's 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.959 like a traveling circus. The US team will be on 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.880 one side, you all will be on the other side, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.920 and you're all going down normally it's kind of opposite 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.040 sides of the fair way with the kind of the 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.920 traveling entourage, and you get to watch these final matches. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.480 I always think that those are very very special moments. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.760 And when you're in a you get to watch a 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.120 match that your team is in, you know, on whatever 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:44.840 side you're on. When you get to watch a match 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.640 that maybe they're one down going to sixteen and they 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.319 flip it, you can feel that energy change. I think 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:56.920 more than any golf event I've been around. Solheim Cups, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.880 Ryder Cups, are they turn on? They turned so quickly 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.760 on momentum. Yeah, what's that like? When you're when you 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.120 feel the momentum building on your side and then when 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.360 you miss a par putt and all of a sudden 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.400 you get back down to square and you can feel 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.000 the momentum shifting. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.800 I mean, momentum is everything in match play. You can 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.680 be three down, but if you have it going for you, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.880 you make a couple of birdies, you can kind of 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.679 you feel that, hey, like you have an upper hand 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.840 against the opponents. It's kind of you can tell that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.160 their confidence is kind of maybe crumbling a little bit. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.400 They're not so sure about it anymore. And you have 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.160 like five holes to go, and you know, things can 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.680 change so quickly. I mean, if you're three down after 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.200 nine holes, that doesn't mean anything in match play. So 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.400 that's just really the exciting part of it. Like you 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.320 you can you always have a chance as long as 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.240 there's holes to play, you always have a chance. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.520 When you're in a team competition and you've got a partner, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.480 are you someone that immediately goes into okay, this is 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.240 my partner, this is my teammate. I'm going to ask 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.320 their input for reading putts, for reading greens, for clubs 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.640 selection or stuff. Because a lot of a lot of 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:19.160 the you know, like rarely do we see great partnerships 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.560 that kind of embrace that, but there were a lot 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.320 of I mean, just in looking at some of the guys, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.160 I mean, some of the guys just they do their 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.520 own thing. And there are players that really like having 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.360 a partner and really like asking questions. And then there 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.640 are players that say, listen, I'm just gonna do all 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.439 this on my own. So what type of player? When 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.720 you were on the soul Hum Cup did you say, okay, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.360 you're out first with Anna nord Quist? How quickly did 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.720 you say okay, hey, take a look, what do you 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.640 think about this? Or did you kind of do your 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:47.120 own thing? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.600 It was kind of in between. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.959 So I knew she obviously she's very experienced and she's 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.840 a veteran, and she knows what she's doing, so I 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.559 know she's probably not going to ask me for much help. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.960 But I knew she was there if I needed anything. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.800 There were obviously some like game plans we went through, 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.559 like Part fives, where to put her on the layup 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.959 or whether like if it was a tough shutout of 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.040 the bunker, like where would she like to would she 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.920 like for me to go for it, or maybe put 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.640 ourselves in a more strategic position. So we're kind of 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.200 in between. I don't think we read any pots together, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.120 but there were some of those during the game decisions 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.440 that we did make together, and she was she always 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.040 made herself available for me. She told me she's there 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.320 if I need anything, And a couple of times I 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.760 think she noticed that I was kind of like I 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.520 had a couple a couple of holes that I wasn't 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.680 doing so great. So she came up to me and 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.760 was like, hey, you got this, and like gave me 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.000 a little bit of a confidence boost. And that was 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.400 great because she's someone that I really look up to. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.800 So when we look at the men, it's been, you know, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.000 since two thousand. I mean I was at was in 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.600 nineteen ninety three. Is the last time the US men's 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.840 team for the Ryder Cup has won on foreign soil. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.080 You were part of a Solheim Cup team that won 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.240 in the US. How is that different, because I think 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.880 there's I almost think it's it would be cooler to 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.760 win one on foreign soil. I mean, obviously, winning in 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.320 Europe is an amazing experience, right, and you've got the 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.960 crowd on your side, But when you're actually able to 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.840 go over to the US and you actively feel like 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.560 you're hitting shots and making putts that are actually silencing 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.200 the crowd, that must be really a cool, cool feeling 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:34.960 when you're on the golf course. Yeah. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.400 I mean the crowds were really quiet in the end 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.240 because there were no European fans during COVID. Nobody could 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.080 come in. Not even our families were able to make 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:43.480 it over. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.000 So it really was just the team, the captains and 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:47.600 the caddies. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.960 Yeah, like some of our spouses were there. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.240 But in the end of the last last day, it 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.560 was very quiet and it was so satisfying because I 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.880 mean we were underdogs that week, like we weren't really 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.359 expected to win. Nobody, we didn't have any fans and 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.480 on us oil. I mean, it just made us so 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:11.000 much better. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.080 So you got your first PGA Tour win in twenty 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.560 twenty one, first female from Finland to win on the LPGO. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.040 I think it's very important when we look at countries 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.280 that aren't, you know, the big, big golf countries. Finland 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.720 is not a big golfing country. It doesn't have a massive, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.200 massive history. Miko Elinan, who I used to work with, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.080 won the British am won a bunch of tournaments in 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.200 Europe and stuff. He was kind of the flag bearer 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.600 for Finnish golf. Do you feel like, do you feel 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:54.240 an extra sense of responsibility now that you've won as 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.840 the first female on the LPGA Tour from Finland, because 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:03.440 I think it's huge for developing golf in smaller golf countries. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.000 Everybody's idols are for you. It's easy for your idol 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.440 to be, you know, on a Anka or Tiger Woods 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.360 or something. But I think it's really important to have 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.960 people that you can look up to, that you can say, Okay, yeah, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.080 obviously I'd like to be the next Anica Sore and 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.640 Sam I'd love to be the next Cary Web. But 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.520 I'm thirteen fourteen years old right now. I live in Helsinki, Finland. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.680 Here's someone that is from where I'm from. They grew 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.960 up in the same place that I did. I think 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.480 that's really important for the younger generation to see people 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:41.280 like yourself. You know, female junior golfers in Finland now 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.560 have someone They say, listen, she's one on the LPGA Tour, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.920 she's one on the led, she played on a Soul 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.680 High Cup. That's who I want to be. I don't 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.960 want to necessarily be somebody that I'll never get a 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.560 chance to meet that's from the United States or from 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.200 somewhere else. I want to be the next Matilda. Yeah. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.400 I mean it's really cool to hear some of the 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.480 juniors tell others that they want to be like me. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.680 I mean, the last couple of years has been really 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.040 amazing to like build that platform and it's just an 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.480 honor for me to carry the finished flag on tour 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.000 and you. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.920 Get to do it in the Olympics as well. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.119 Yeah, and I hope to do it again, and I 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.119 hope to achieve bigger and better things as well. And 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.680 I want to be that person that the juniors will 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.080 look up to and they kind of see that they 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.280 can do it too. Because I was the second finish 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.879 player on the LPGA. There was a lady called Mini Bloomfish. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.399 Yeah yeah, yeah, So I looked up to her and 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.280 she was kind of my role model when I was 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.240 a little girl, and I knew she played out here, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.719 and that was kind of why I wanted to come 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.120 to the States and play. Yeah. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.760 That's my point. I think when we look at developing 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.560 golfers and people say, well, it's not a big golf market, 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.800 I'm always looking at, Okay, who are the players coming 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.160 out of that system? Right that other people can kind 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.240 of look up to and you have someone that say, Okay, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.040 I can make it because they made it. They're from 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.400 where I'm from, and I think, you know, I heard 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.119 somebody say something. Everybody thinks if you think that, oh, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.240 you know, I can't make it, everything stacked against me. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.320 They always say, listen, if somebody from where you're from 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.040 has made it, that means that there is a pathway 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.359 that you can go out and try and do some 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.679 of the same things. The golf season in Finland is 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.280 not long, right, how many months would you say the 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.919 finished golf season is. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.880 I mean, if you're lucky in hell, thinky you get 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:44.440 May till October, which is not terrible, but it takes 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.520 a while for the golf course. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:45.840 To being good. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.479 I mean in Finland it can still be snowing in 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.600 May it could be, and then the further north you go, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.280 the season obviously is really really shrunk. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.800 Yeah, so golf is not being you know, ice hockey 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.960 is huge other when sports. So I'm just really happy 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.200 to see that golf is growing in Finland. There's more 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:10.760 juniors coming out. There's a guy, Sammy Valimachi who just 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.480 got his agatory first finished golfer. So there's some really 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.320 exciting things happening, a lot of good momentum, and I 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.520 hope it just keeps growing. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.560 You made the jump from Finland Plager college golf at 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.800 Florida State one six, seven times seven times, seven nights seven. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.760 What's the difference would you say between winning in college 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.480 because obviously multiple winner A lot of a lot of 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.760 girls go to college and they never win anything. So 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.360 to have that type of career second team All American, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.560 but to win seven times you can't fake that, right, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.480 I mean, if you can get lucky and win once, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.200 but to win multiple multiple times in college is huge. 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.119 What is the difference between do you think winning in 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.119 college and then making that jump having now won in 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.600 Europe and on the LPGA, what do you feel like 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.639 the jump is or is there no jump? Is it 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.159 just I mean we always say listen, it's golf, right, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.439 It's golf the collegiate level versus the LPGA level. The 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.800 only difference is the stage is bigger, right, the stakes 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.679 are bigger, You're playing for more, But at the end 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.480 of the day, it's still just golf. Did you notice 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.960 a difference between college golf and professional golf? 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.040 I did, and I had my first couple of years 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.800 as a professional were not great. I kind of had 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:33.480 like this, I don't know, culture shock. Maybe I played 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:33.919 on these. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.639 Just kind of freaked out when you got there, or 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.959 were like, Wow, it's a bigger stage, or put too 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.159 much pressure on yourself. 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.159