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Speaker 1: You were tunes about Drive on Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Ali here with Matt Williamson and Met will

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Speaker 1: finally dive into that NFL futures article that we talked

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Speaker 1: about at the top of of the last segment, and

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Speaker 1: as we always do, we'll we'll jump into this go

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Speaker 1: thirty two two number one and the number thirty two team.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward we start. I have one little complaint with this.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of scanning this as we were chatting

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Speaker 1: last segment, and this goes back to me growing fonder

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Speaker 1: and fonder of the Steelers adding a salary cap guy

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Speaker 1: as their new GM. There's not a lot of reference

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Speaker 1: here to salary cap and future contracts. I think that's

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Speaker 1: stuff more important in the NFL than it's ever been. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and there's no doubt about it. I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: have roster flexibility, the right ability to add people, uh,

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Speaker 1: your roster can turn over very quickly. Um. But looking

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Speaker 1: at this, they have the Atlanta Falcons number thirty two

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Speaker 1: with an overall score of sixty eight point seven. The

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Speaker 1: overall roster ranked with the score of sixty five. The

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation ranked thirty second with the score of fifty

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Speaker 1: nine point eight. The coaching got a ranked seventeenth. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you can do that after just one

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Speaker 1: season seventy seven point five. The draft they're drafting was

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Speaker 1: twenty is twenty six at seventy four point three in

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Speaker 1: the front office gets a seventy one grade, which is

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Speaker 1: twenty nine in the league. I mean, here's why I

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Speaker 1: hated the project, you know, all those five years on

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Speaker 1: three is if they have a terrible year, they draft c. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud or Bryce Young or somebody like that, and he's

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Speaker 1: the next Borough or Allen or somebody. A year from now,

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Speaker 1: they might be fifth on this list because they got

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Speaker 1: funds of cap space, they're young, they got the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the coach look smart, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they're terrible shape right now. But it wouldn't take

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Speaker 1: all that much to get them to the middle of

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Speaker 1: the pack here either. Yeah. Well, they're also a team

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Speaker 1: that has been up against it with salary cap as well, right,

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Speaker 1: Giants are kind of suffering through that no reason, right,

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Speaker 1: for no reason, nothing YaST errors here, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like they have a Super Bowl to contend with. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's why I was gonna bring up like the Rams

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Speaker 1: or the Saints, Like they look great, but their cap

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Speaker 1: might be in Bears Falcons Land two or three years

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Speaker 1: from now. Yeah, there's some other teams on here too

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna take some umbrage with when we get

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Speaker 1: to them. But rolling here. Number thirty one is the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Uh. The overall rosters is seventy three point eight,

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Speaker 1: which is twenty six in the NFL. The quarterback is

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Speaker 1: a sixty five point five, which coaching sixty eight, which

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Speaker 1: is thirty second in the league. Well, if they've got

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Speaker 1: if they've got the thirty second best head coach right now,

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Speaker 1: three years from now, he's not gonna be there. That's

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Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, no one ever mentions Rule's

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Speaker 1: name without saying he's on the hot seat. But I

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Speaker 1: don't look at him like he's the worst coach I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean don't. I don't either, nor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the drafting has been twenty seven and their front office

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Speaker 1: and they go after shiny things. I would not where

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Speaker 1: I would fight them though, is I don't think this

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Speaker 1: roster is twenty six. I don't think it is either.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like twelve. Like, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good roster. Yeah, And I think if you look at that,

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Speaker 1: then the drafting has to be better as well. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: right right, because it's not like they're running out and

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Speaker 1: signing free agent after free agent. Um. Yeah. At thirty

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can have a first year

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Speaker 1: You don't know what kind of head coach you'd be.

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Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback next year. I mean Data

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Speaker 1: drafting in front office. I mean quarterbacks bad now, but

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Speaker 1: the top ten every year you're drafting should be right.

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Speaker 1: roster minus the quarterback quarterback play coaching number one in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, that's obviously what sticks out here like

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Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence based on what he did last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean ownership culture, things he can't measure. Those things matter.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders they ranked one overall roster minus quarterback

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Speaker 1: a lot of like Carson Wentz is not the seven

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Speaker 1: at least somebody with pedigree. How about this coaching They

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Speaker 1: some ancient Ish history. Drafting they get a seventh. They

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Speaker 1: At twenty three are the Arizona Cardinals score of seventy

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Speaker 1: to the coaching seven to start. Contrast to Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: the second best coach in the league. Drafting the front office.

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