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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by bet MGM.

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Speaker 2: I'm Chris Raybondam the Action Network, and this is your

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Speaker 1: Preview Part one. We're gonna talk win, total futures, all.

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Speaker 2: Things NFC East and NFC South. We'll go team by

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Speaker 2: team and then we'll have part two with the NFC

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Speaker 2: covered the AFC two parts, so.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to check out those two episodes if you

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Speaker 2: And here to break it down with me, the outlook

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Speaker 2: of every team in the NFC East and the NFC South.

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, the Rambler, stucky, stuck,

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Speaker 3: Yep, what's going on? We're fully back in the grind

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Speaker 3: for divisions covered yesterday in two episodes and four more

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Speaker 3: today and excited to ramble some more NFL can't wait

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Speaker 3: for the season to get here. So yeah, some NFC today,

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Speaker 3: pretty fascinating conferences across the board, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the NFC East.

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Speaker 2: You have the Philadelphia Eagles leading the way with a

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Speaker 2: win total of ten and a half. At bet MGM

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Speaker 2: juice to the over at minus one forty. The Eagles

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Speaker 2: are minus one twenty to win the NFC East. And remember,

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Speaker 2: it's been a what two decades? What's the exact amount

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Speaker 3: Was a repeat that since two thousand and three.

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Speaker 2: So that's twenty one year. It's been twenty one years

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Speaker 2: So Dallas of course won it last year, so I

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Speaker 2: but obviously you lose Kelsey in the middle, so.

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Speaker 1: That's big and I think, for me, stuck when I.

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Speaker 2: Look at this Eagle team, there was a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot wrong with the defense last year. So now you

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Speaker 2: to you two parts really. Number one, how's the defense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can start with the defense. Bringing You know,

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Speaker 3: the Beagles is getting a lot of love in the market.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gone a little too far. They definitely

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Speaker 3: But you need to have really good communication to make

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Speaker 3: Didn't disagree with some of the moves early. But I'm

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Speaker 2: I do think they're the best team in this division

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Speaker 2: right now, and that's also because and we'll get to Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I think I think last year was the town of

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Speaker 3: So they also play no teams off of a bid

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Speaker 2: But you know, they have it, like you said, they

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Speaker 1: But offensively.

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Speaker 2: I don't what are your thoughts on Kellen Moore, because

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Speaker 2: regardless of how good the Eagles defenses, all those teams

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Speaker 2: do you think Kellen Moore just solves all these problems

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Speaker 3: But I project ten point three, so anything, I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen to one win the Super Bowl. I just

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Speaker 1: I saw Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Just I just see this team as a very fragile team.

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Speaker 2: You know, we always they're always kind of a regular

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Speaker 1: That's that worries me.

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Speaker 2: And then the fact that we've never really seen Dallas

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Speaker 2: I think on this offensive line this year, some fragility

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Speaker 2: And even more so because you know, running back husually irrelevant. Right,

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Speaker 2: But that's about it. Uh. And then you know Doubell

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Speaker 1: So, you know, can the defense make up for it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want any parts of their overs Now, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the hate the narrative on the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: I think has gone a little too far. What you

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Speaker 3: just mentioned their offense has been healthy, Like if Dak

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Speaker 3: won twelve games three consecutive times. I get they haven't

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Speaker 3: Top seven, zero, top seventy, top ten special teams. I

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Speaker 3: think they have a really good special teams again this year.

433
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Speaker 3: I mean Aubrey he's just made one from sixty six.

434
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Speaker 3: But they like to play from ahead, and if they're

435
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Speaker 3: not doing that, and they're not getting the turnovers plus

436
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: thirty four turnover margin over those past three years, so

437
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Speaker 3: regression could hit there as well. Well. Ultimately, I think

438
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: the market's going a little too far there. Might make

439
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Speaker 3: I'm showing there's a tab bit of value in Dallas

440
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Speaker 3: to win the division, but there's there's definitely a lot

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Speaker 3: of questions here.

442
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Speaker 2: Another thing that kind of you know, points me away

443
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: from Dallas and towards Philadelphia in terms of this division

444
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: is just that and we see this all the time.

445
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: It's just that that difference in schedule between you know,

446
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: having a first place in the second place schedule, because Dallas,

447
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: you know, I look at their schedule.

448
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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's pretty tough.

449
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Speaker 2: And I don't like the fact that, you know, they

450
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Speaker 2: start the regular season in Cleveland. If that offensive line

451
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Speaker 2: is shaky, it's not not the team. You know, obviously

452
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Speaker 2: Dallas's offense is better than Cleveland's, but not the team

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Speaker 2: I want to face.

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Speaker 1: Uh. And then you know, you face Balts, you.

455
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: Go to Pittsburgh in early October, you face ball even

456
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, you go to the Giants early in the

457
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: air and their passwords might still be healthy and they

458
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: might have not completely umploded yet. Uh, you go, you

459
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: host Detroit, then have a bye, then go to San Francisco.

460
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later, you get Philly and Houston

461
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: back to back at home. You know, you play Cincinnati

462
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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks after that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of quality teams on this schedule and

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Speaker 2: a lot of you know, at least especially early that

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Speaker 2: I just don't like the like the matchups for Dallas necessarily.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the win total nine and a

467
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Speaker 2: half juice to the over is about right. But I

468
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Speaker 2: just I have to see, I have to I have

469
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Speaker 2: to get more confidence in the you know, last year.

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Speaker 1: I think what we were saying it was it last year.

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Speaker 2: The year before, we like, as long as the kicker

472
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Speaker 2: is good, you know, we love this team, and then

473
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 2: the kicker was good. This year, it's like, I really

474
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: need to see more from the tackle situation, from the center. Like,

475
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Speaker 2: I just really I don't have enough information to confidently

476
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Speaker 2: say that, because there could be that could be three

477
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Speaker 2: of the five and all of the three most important

478
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Speaker 2: offensive line spots that if they're below average bets are

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Speaker 2: off for me with Dallas, So that's that's kind of

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Speaker 2: where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: I want to see some things. There might be a

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Speaker 3: team that like, if I see some third things, I

483
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: might invest in some high upside during the season, but

484
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Speaker 3: nothing as of now. The one thing I'll end the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys on. We'll talk about the Bears later. Some Cover

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Speaker 3: two everflues my favorite Zimmer quote he was on he

487
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Speaker 3: was miked up in a game like I don't know

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Speaker 3: ten years ago. I forget who he was talking to.

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Speaker 3: I think he was, but he was miked up, and

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Speaker 3: he said, you could find a Cover two corner anywhere.

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Speaker 3: I can go down to the seven eleven in Bloomington

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Speaker 3: and get one when he just got caught saying it,

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Speaker 3: which is really funny. But Cowboys is always going to

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Speaker 2: all right to Washington Commanders six and a half minus

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Speaker 2: one twenty five to the over is the win total

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Speaker 2: eleven to one to win the division at bet MGM.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that I think, you know, people

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Speaker 2: are kind of looking at this team in the Giants

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Speaker 2: and saying, all right, which if I'm taking a long shot,

508
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Speaker 2: you know, to win this division, which one of them

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about this before.

511
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Speaker 2: I think the one thing Washington has going for it

512
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: is just the unknown with Jayden Daniels and the fact

513
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Speaker 2: that you know, we know how transformative a franchise quarterback

514
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Speaker 2: can be. So I think Washington the win total is

515
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Speaker 2: about right at six and a half.

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Speaker 1: I don't love the over.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if I see seven wins

518
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: on the schedule, But I think, you know, some upside

519
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Speaker 2: bets for them. Dayden Daniels to win mv to win

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Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry, not m v P, not m v B.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Offensive Rookie of the year. You know that you

523
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Speaker 2: can get that around five to one. And if you're

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Speaker 2: taking a long shot on the division, I still go

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Speaker 2: Washington over the Giants. I just don't like the way

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Speaker 2: the Giants have been building their team. But you know,

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Speaker 2: in terms of Washington, what do you see and it's

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of a lot of new with with Washington.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, del Rio's gone Rivera, that whole regime. Uh,

530
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Speaker 2: you know, the the cornerbacks are are you know, we

531
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: still got some of the young guys, but you know,

532
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Speaker 2: it's just just the defensive line is not the same

533
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Speaker 2: as it used to be. Got Bobby Wagner and Louvu

534
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Speaker 2: at linebacks, so you actually have good linebackers for once.

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Speaker 1: You know, people.

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Speaker 2: The opinions on the offensive line Varry, you got Eckler

537
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Speaker 2: in the backfield, you got zach Ertz there, Kingsbury. I mean,

538
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: just so much going on. What are you kind of

539
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Speaker 2: prognosticating here for the commanders.

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Speaker 3: Starting the defense? The offense is much more interesting. So

541
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Speaker 3: we'll hit that last. Yeah, like Louvu, like the like

542
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: the linebackers you're bringing in. Dan Quinn's new head coach

543
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: brings with him with as the DC need to see

544
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: a lot more aggression. Cover one covers with with some

545
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: cover three. Quinn has really evolved as a defensive guy.

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Speaker 3: The problem is here. I mean, Pain and Allen are

547
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Speaker 3: good players. You need them to get I mean all

548
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: world pressure on every passing down. This team couldn't stop

549
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: a nosebleed last year in the back end and they

550
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Speaker 3: didn't really address it. I like Sandra Still. I think

551
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a really good player than Nickel, and

552
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Speaker 3: I think that Quinn and Wick can use him really

553
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Speaker 3: well in his aggression. He's a guy I think is

554
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: like ready now and he's not afraid. But their corners,

555
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Speaker 3: I mean Saint Juice. I liked him in the slot

556
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Speaker 3: and I thought he had some potential there. He's your

557
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Speaker 3: number one, like as here one, Michael Davis has washed

558
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, your safeties Kawan, Martin, Jeremy Chin and they

559
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: don't move the needle. So this second is very problematic

560
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Speaker 3: and I think is gonna be their downfall. And it's

561
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Speaker 3: not like like unbelievable edge rushers. I mean they just

562
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Speaker 3: need Allen and Pain and you know they didn't Quinn

563
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Speaker 3: and With to scheme up some unreal pressures because I

564
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Speaker 3: don't see them getting many stops on the back end.

565
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: That's definitely gonna be a problem on the offensive side. Oh,

566
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Speaker 3: where do we start? I have a lot of issues here,

567
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: so let's start with wide receiver. I always like it

568
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Speaker 3: in your input there. I mean McLaren is a stud,

569
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Speaker 3: but Cliff's probably gonna use him incorrectly. I would assume

570
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Speaker 3: it's like Cliff comes from married principles. He runs a

571
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Speaker 3: more balanced offense than that. We're gonna be really fast.

572
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be up up tempo, that super fast. And

573
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Speaker 3: but after McLaurin, I mean, it's notts to just a bust.

574
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing Dinie Brown is gonna win the number two

575
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver spot Dotson like it traded and then like

576
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Speaker 3: is it Siki is going to be on the outside

577
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Speaker 3: with with McLaurin and Diammy Brown or like Dotson is

578
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: he played like almost all games in the last preseason game,

579
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Speaker 3: they had Donnie Brown out there before him. Like, what's

580
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Speaker 3: going on there is dots are just a bust.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think you'd have to say he's

582
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Speaker 2: he had a good year one and a bad year too,

583
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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say he's full on bust, but he's

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Speaker 2: inching toward that territory. The one thing I will say

585
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Speaker 2: is I actually think who is the coordinator actual b enemy?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I actually I want to say that the

588
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: enemy used the entire offense wrong last year, so I wouldn't.

589
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: Would just pass every fucking down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was it was it was too predictable.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It was, you know because all pretty like Dotson regrets

593
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: mcglaarn even regressed last year, you know, So it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a great scheme.

595
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: But dot you know, what it sounds like to me

596
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: is maybe they are showcasing of for a trade, but

597
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Speaker 2: they're they're definitely trying him in a slot and he's

598
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Speaker 2: five to eleven two. So I understand why they would,

599
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Speaker 2: you know, try to do that. I mean, he can

600
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Speaker 2: obviously move around, but you know, Diami Brown on the

601
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Speaker 2: outside gives them. I guess they want more of like

602
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Speaker 2: a downfield, a little bit of more size downfield. Now,

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Speaker 2: Diami Brown, you know, he was he's flashed at times,

604
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Speaker 2: but uh, you know, he's not the guy hasn't put

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Speaker 2: it together. Third round pick in twenty twenty one, so Yeah,

606
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Speaker 2: that could be shaky. Zach Ertz Kingsbury's favorite tight end.

607
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: You know, he's he should be at least he should be.

608
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Speaker 3: Red zone because that's what they need. Who are the

609
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Speaker 3: red zone targets in this offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be Ertz, and that's another reason why

611
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Speaker 2: they're probably using Brown. I'm not buying this the kiast thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe he's like a cliff does

613
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Speaker 2: like to go spread and whatnot, but I don't think

614
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Speaker 2: is gonna be a consistent part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they down Luke McCaffery, but I'm hearing he's

616
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Speaker 3: not really ready yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't seem ready.

618
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: So it's like this could go a lot of ways ultimately, though,

619
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you got a stud

620
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: receiver you're running back to Susawid. I mean, you know,

621
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Speaker 2: I don't think the line is gonna be terrible. I

622
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Speaker 2: think it's gonna be like.

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Speaker 3: Add it's gonna be bad.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
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Speaker 1: Coleman, I mean Coleman on the.

627
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Speaker 3: That Coleman's gonna be starting a left tackle. He's not,

628
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: he's hurt right now. Yeah, but he's gonna be starting

629
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Speaker 3: a left tackle third round or later tackles rookie year,

630
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Speaker 3: they hit about five percent of the time when they're

631
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Speaker 3: not a disaster. That's not promising. Last year, their offense,

632
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was so bad because as you mentioned them,

633
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: was just passed past, past, past past. But how was

634
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: responsible for a lot of the sacks, Like they give

635
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Speaker 3: up sixty five sacks. How was probably responsible for like

636
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen of them. And then obviously they're playing for

637
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: behind it ton, so they threw a ton. So like

638
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: they're a little inflated of a number, but they're I mean,

639
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: if you look, everyone was blaming the tackles last year,

640
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: tackles give a six percent pressure rate. That's like close

641
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: to the league average guards, league average, like four and

642
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Speaker 3: a half percent. It was six percent center, you know,

643
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: around three and a half four percent league average. It

644
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: was six percent, So the pressure was coming from all over.

645
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Charles was a disaster, a disaster at guard.

646
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Speaker 3: So at least he's not there, so you do you know,

647
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: you brought in the oddish at center. Allegretti, it's better.

648
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: It's not great. Wiley is bad, Cornelius Lucas is bad.

649
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: So and you might have him and Wiley starting with

650
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: coleman Att So I don't see the offensive line. The

651
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: wide receivers are a question mark. Who can make up

652
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: for that? It's you know, and obviously you do have

653
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: a more mobile quarterback, as you said, But I'm out

654
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: of Jaden Daniel Scott and I've will always say this.

655
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: No one knows exactly how you're you know, this guy's

656
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: gonna be a bust. This guy's not. But it comes

657
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: to the quarterbacks. It comes down to processing milliseconds and

658
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: can they have the pocket presence, read the defenses. But

659
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: his pressure to sacrates alarming in college, very very alarming.

660
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: You look at all the guys he's around that have

661
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: been drafted that were that low. By the way, all

662
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Sam Howe, he's in sam Halle territory, uh, Sam hal Willis, Stidham,

663
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: Ridder Hackenberg, the guys with that. He takes way too

664
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: many sacks. And look, he was playing behind a great

665
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: offensive line with two stud receivers who got drafted in

666
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: the first round. I don't know if he has number one,

667
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: if he can avoid enough sacks, the pocket presence, the

668
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: in order to succeed as an NFL quarterback. He's looked

669
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: okay in the regular season, but his average time to

670
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: throw has been one point nine seconds and a dot's

671
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: been about four yards.

672
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: That's hey, yeah, that's what Cliff gonna do. Look at

673
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray every year. He's like, you like a YPA

674
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: of like six because he just fucking throws the ball

675
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: at the first tigne of pressure.

676
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, not so, but in order from the win, it's like,

677
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: and you know, take the next step, Kenny. You know,

678
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: one other team's take that away, and he's gonna have

679
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: to throw in third downs and this offensive line is

680
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: a disaster. He bails too quickly. I don't like some

681
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 3: of his numbers under pressure. So I you know who,

682
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: I think Jaydon Daniels is Justin Fields.

683
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: So I was thinking that I think he's I think

684
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: he's still I still think he's going to be a

685
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: better passer than than Justin Fields because even the fact

686
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: that it doesn't feel I don't think I've ever seen

687
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: justin Fields get the ball out like that preseason or not.

688
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: Like people say he's Lamar, but Lamar, he did not

689
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: have any those pressure to sack rates his at his

690
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: you know where he was throwing the ball. His pressure

691
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: numbers on cause were much more promising, So I think

692
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: he's going to be fields. That's it is an easy schedule.

693
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: You have a late buy, which might hurt with all

694
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: these changes, but I project around six point six. So yeah,

695
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: it's a pass for me. Lots of issues. I think

696
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: that the Eagles have a lower floor than some people think.

697
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys have an extremely low floor if

698
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: everything goes bad. So, like I wanted because there's a

699
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: lot of change that the Cowboys new defense coordinator, this

700
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: offensive line, all the stuff that could go on there

701
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: and talk about with the Eagles new coordinators, new INTI

702
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: your offensive line, no brand new secutor complex d so like.

703
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: And then also you're throw in like the chance of injuries.

704
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, we talked about this earlier,

705
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: Like we already mentioned who do I want to buy

706
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: as a long shot? Washington or New York? You know, I,

707
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: after spending all summer digging these teams couldn't get to Washington.

708
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to like the upside of Daniels couldn't get there,

709
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: and uh, we'll talk about the Giants next, and ultimately

710
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: I couldn't get there on it.

711
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm glad, I'm glad you finally because it's like, listen,

712
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm saying between the two, I would

713
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: choose Washington, But yeah, either are these teams?

714
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Is that appealing? At the end of the day.

715
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: The Giants, I just don't like the decisions that they've

716
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: been making.

717
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's like the more you.

718
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Kind of step back and look at it, Yes, they

719
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: have a good there's they should have a good pass rush.

720
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: But first of all, I feel like that there's this notion.

721
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: That Kevon Thibodau is like already a week Like, no,

722
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: he was, he showed some promise and he but he's

723
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: been solid, but he's not He's far from a week.

724
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: So it's not like you have you don't have three

725
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: elite guys. You have like three three guys.

726
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: With a week potential, like and you kind of mortgage

727
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: the secondary to do that. I mean, who are your

728
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: start Just Deyontay Banks still hasn't looked good, don't Is

729
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: he going to actually improve and make that jump that

730
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: you expect out of the second year.

731
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Corners on the outside a lot you got.

732
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Phillip Simmons is playing corner. Now Belton and Pinnock are

733
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: your safeties. I mean that that that's the only gonna

734
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: last so far much. Uh, And I just I just

735
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't feel like the Giants are good at self

736
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: evaluation either. Like you know, is they they draft a

737
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: fifth rounder and put him on the depth start ahead

738
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: of of of Gray at running back the fifth round

739
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: from last year, and Gray looks like the best running.

740
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Back in camp.

741
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: They they say they are gonna not pay Barkley, and

742
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: then they paid Devin Singletary top fifteen running back money.

743
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Darius Slayton, they keep trying to knock him out of

744
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: the depth. Riart, he's always their most productive receiver. So

745
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: and then Daniel Jones, they they bet big on him,

746
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: and I mean that that was clearly a mistake.

747
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: So Neil another mistake.

748
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: So I don't have any confidence in you know, any

749
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: of the depths signings on this team, even though they

750
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: might look okay on paper, you know, I know they

751
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: got running in Van Roten and on a line and

752
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: ILLUMINAI and whatnot.

753
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: But I just I just think this is dis yeah, exactly.

754
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: I just think the teams are disaster waiting for having

755
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: to happen because they're so fragile and they're best players

756
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: outside of uh neighbors uh and and you know the

757
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: Lawrence Burns, like outside of those guys, Like your best

758
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: players are like like okay, okay, yeah great, but it's

759
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: a line that's a linebacker that's not really that important.

760
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: And then you have Thomas that at left tackle.

761
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: That's that's great, except the rest of your line is

762
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: probably still gonna stink in your quarterback stick. So it's like, yeah, great,

763
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: you have have a great left tackle, but okay, like

764
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: I just I just don't see enough year for this

765
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: giant team. And then on top of that, I don't

766
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: like the fact that you have this shaky quarterback and

767
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna probably have no run game because like who

768
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: are you run blocking with? I mean, you got Wandale Robinson.

769
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: Is he gonna play a lot of stats? How many STAPs?

770
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: Is Hyatt gonna play?

771
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Those guys? If those guys are both you.

772
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Know, top three wide receivers, you get tiny guys run blocking.

773
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: THEO Johnson not really a run blocker if he starts

774
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: it tight. Like, you just have too many one dimensional

775
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: players on offense. The line isn't great. The defense is

776
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: pretty much you know, pass rush and pray and eventually,

777
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, if anyone gets hurt or if they get tired,

778
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: even because they're gonna rely on them a lot, you know,

779
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: I just don't think the back end is gonna hold

780
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: up at all.

781
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm down on this team. But Daniel Jones,

782
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he just seems to be regressing, you know,

783
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: even with neighbors. I don't I don't think. I don't

784
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: see you, Rahm.

785
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: But what do you think We'll start? On the defense?

786
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: Shane Bone comes in defensive coordinator. It's gonna look a

787
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: lot different than Mink Martin Dale's although he is aggressive

788
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz influence, but he's more own. Not much blitzing,

789
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: but an aggressive zone. But you know what this defense

790
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: is going to look like the Titans last year? There

791
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: no they had a good front, no secondary, and they

792
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: had a terrible past day. I don't know why it

793
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: would look any different. You know, the linebackers are good,

794
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: the defensive line is good. Although McFadden got hurt. I

795
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: haven't seen an update on him, but in preseason worth noting.

796
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: But that's why I think this defense is is the

797
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: Titans defense from last year, same coordinator, same profile, data,

798
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: had no corners. No secondary, good front. So unless they're

799
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 3: getting pressure, they're not getting many stops and they're gonna

800
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: give up a ton of explosive plays offensively. Yeah, I

801
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: mean it's a messive the offensive line. They did bring

802
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 3: it a better offensive line coach from the Raiders who's

803
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: done a really good job there last years. But they

804
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: have the guys they brought in. Yeah, I guess they're

805
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: a little better, but they also have no continent. There's

806
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: no fall camp cont new they're gonna go to the

807
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: year taking zero snaps together. Haven't since they're moving guys around,

808
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: and there's been a couple of guys banged up, And yeah,

809
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: it's it's their offense lines is not gonna be good again.

810
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: Deja vu grounha day with the Giants, which has been

811
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: a problem. And then that the Jones thing like neighbors helps,

812
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: but Jones is just not that guy. By the way,

813
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: I said that the they're gonna be the Titans d

814
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: but are the Giants are the commanders in a way?

815
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: Bad offensive line? You have a stud receiver, questions elsewhere,

816
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: questions are they to be able to run the ball

817
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: mobile quarterback? And then on your defense, you have some

818
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: guys up front, no secondary. Kind of a lot of parallels.

819
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: The Commanders even took their own line coach, So I

820
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: mean it guess there's more upside with Daniels because of

821
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: the uncertainty. And we know who Daniel Jones is. Last

822
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: ten quarterbacks drafted to throw a thousand passes with five

823
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: point five adjusted net yards per attempt less here's a list,

824
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 3: Mitch Bortles, Blake Bortles. For those new to the program,

825
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: that's Mitch Trubisky, Blake Bortles, Mac Jones, Trevor Simeon, Sam Darnold,

826
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, and Daniel

827
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Jones thousand plus stops. Still you need to know right there,

828
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: look at him against the Texans. So it was a

829
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: preseason game that was embarrassing. So yeah, he's just not

830
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: the guy, not going to become the guy. It's really

831
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: a shame because like they were kind of starting to

832
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 3: turn it around. They were left in this new regime,

833
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: which I agree, I don't like the weather building, but

834
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: they were like they were left in a just a brutal,

835
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: brutal position, just from a roster perspective, and then they

836
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: throw one hundred and sixty million at Daniel Jones and

837
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: it all came down to that lucky run. In twenty

838
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: twenty two, Aaron Rodgers had two incomplete passes on third

839
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: and one and fourth and one I think in London,

840
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: and the Giants won that game, and then the whole

841
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: media was like Daniel Jones, because I think Barkley got

842
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: hurt and he led like a game tying and game

843
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: then game winning drive on a bunch of like short

844
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: passes and then everyone's like Daniel Jones, and then a

845
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: narrative change, and they won a couple other lucky games

846
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: that year, and that led to him ultimately getting the contract.

847
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: Good for his agents agent should probably get half that.

848
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't see with the Giants this year. Defense last

849
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: year extremely lucky from a turnover department number one an

850
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: EPA game, got a good front, but this is gonna

851
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: look like a Titans bad pass d last year. And

852
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 3: the offensive line is still gonna be a mess. Yeah,

853
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Neighbors could have a big year, they'd be playing from behind.

854
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: They're gonna be in I mean, maybe Neighbors for like

855
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: offensive Rookie of the Year, but no interest in the

856
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: Giants for schedule schedule wise, I have them twenty so

857
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: it's pretty Easy's got only seven true road games and

858
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: you get Carolina in Germany, but I project right around six.

859
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: So nothing.

860
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the under around the Giants.

861
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: I just I look at this schedule and like some

862
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: of the teams that you know you're expecting to be

863
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: like are they Are they.

864
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: Going to continue to beat Washington twice? I mean, you

865
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: like Bavaria's guys the new regime and not.

866
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't love dan Quinn, but he did seem to

867
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: get better. Uh, you know when he went to Dallas,

868
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: and he's he's gonna be very familiar with them from

869
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: his time in Dallas, so that might not be those

870
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: two wins. I'm higher on Carolina than the market, so

871
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't yeah, right, I'm not penciling them in for that.

872
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh they're losing at Pittsburgh. Uh, probably losing at home

873
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: to the Colts too, you know, like it's they'll beat

874
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: the Saints. I'm like, they always say that seems like

875
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: the one they'll get. But yeah, I don't, like, I

876
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be too too tight, and I think

877
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways. I mean they you know,

878
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: they'll they'll play Minnesota in Week one and everyone's probably

879
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: gonna be on the Giants, And I mean i'd take

880
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: Mullens with that, with with the with the Vikings over,

881
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, over this week one Giant team.

882
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: And Daniel Laura's is gonna terrorize, right.

883
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I don't see it.

884
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: And I think Dabel has gotten like the anchoring bias,

885
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: like he started off really well and you know everything.

886
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: But I think Dabo has the potential to unravel as well.

887
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: So I actually have a first coach fired bet out

888
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: there on him as well.

889
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: I think I got him like ten to one. He's

890
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: up there.

891
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: He's one of the top ones. I won with our

892
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: favorite Dennis Allen. But I could see this really unraveling.

893
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: Not a fan of and Mara is still factoring in

894
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: way too much into the decision which we into their

895
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: decisions which we saw on hard Knock. So just I

896
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: think this organization's going downhill. I think they already peaked

897
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: in this this Gable era in that first year. All right,

898
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: NF you South Atlanta nine and a half minus one

899
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: forty to the over. Uh you know this, clearly, I

900
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: think the best team in this division. But it is

901
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: a weak division, you know, when your leader is with

902
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: nine and a half wins this week. But you know,

903
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: I like the trade for Judah. I'm still curious about

904
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: like what what? Well, I guess two questions because the

905
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: strength of this team this year, you know, as it

906
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: should have been in some years past, should be the offense.

907
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: But we have, like, we have no idea really what's

908
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: going on with Kirk Cousins.

909
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: We haven't. We're not gonna get a chance to see

910
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: him with this offense.

911
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: But I mean Pennix actually looked, okay, so, uh you know,

912
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: where are you with this falcon offense? Because that's that's

913
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: what's gonna make this team, you know, kind of separate

914
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: this team and kind of carry it to a division title.

915
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Cousins, I say, his full strength, he's

916
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: not gonna play in the preseason. I'll be ready to go.

917
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's I think he turns thirty seven today

918
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: or thirty six. I think it was his birthday. I

919
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: don't know. I randomly saw that today somewhere. And so

920
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: he's getting up there and he's coming off a serious injury,

921
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: and how is he going to be the same that's

922
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: definitely a question and a Bible concern. So you know,

923
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: at least you know, I didn't like the draft, a

924
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: draft pic of penics, Like if you wanted to go

925
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: that route, then you would have a lot of money

926
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: to do something else, and you should.

927
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, go back on rookie Deale was so advantageous and

928
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: he looked pretty good. Dudes, It's like now, like you're

929
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: he probably didn't even necessarily miss with the evail, but yeah,

930
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: that's gratcher.

931
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think the offense will look a lot

932
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: more modern bringing Zach Robinson from the Rams or see

933
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: it just a ton of lot of personnelity.

934
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I was about to say it's going

935
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: to look totally different.

936
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're talking about radio.

937
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: Eighty eight percent eleven personnels so far, which is just

938
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: by Rams at ninety nine percent. The problem is Rondell

939
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: Moore are hurt y. Ray Ray McCloud is going to

940
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: be your eye.

941
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: I think what they ultimately should do is try to

942
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: find an ant, Like it would be nice if you know,

943
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: I think Blair is kind of popping in preseason and

944
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: they drafted Washington. It would be nice if one of

945
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: those guys could just give you enough on the outside,

946
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: just kind of running wind sprints that you could just

947
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: put mood because Moody could play in the slot, you know,

948
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: so they could they have they do have some offense

949
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: because yeah, I don't like necessarily trying Ray Ray mcclod

950
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: out there eighty ninety percent because you saw like the

951
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Rams did that with two tuatwo and eventually they just

952
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: went to DeMarcus Robinson because it's like these small guys,

953
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: anytime you want to run the ball, it's a disadvantage.

954
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't I don't love that. I don't.

955
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't love that at all.

956
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think as long as Cousins is if

957
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: Custins is healthy, this offense is a ton of potential.

958
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: Look a lot that Bejon his back, Drake Linne is

959
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: very good. Offensive line is very good. So the offense

960
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: has a ton of potential. And last year, you know

961
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: they finished seven and ten. I mean the bar to

962
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: clear is very low regardless, and you know the play

963
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: calling wasn't ideal. The defense is the question. Judah, Yeah,

964
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: and Judon and Justin Simmons, who I love, and you

965
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: have him, you pair him and Jesse Bates on the

966
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: back end of the defense. That's going to really help.

967
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: You have aj Terrell at corner, so you know, up front,

968
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: though you lost Kalais Bud Deprey, didn't really add anyone

969
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: else until you got Judon, which is why I think

970
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: it was so huge, because like, who was going to

971
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: get after the passer? So if Judon can hit, you know,

972
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: you got Grady Jarrett back. But the you know, linebackers,

973
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: the rest of the defensive front pretty underwhelming, but I

974
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: think that the secondary has a chance to be good.

975
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: The other corner spots are definitely questions, but at least

976
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: you have one lockdown corner, two good smart safeties who

977
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 3: can clean up a lot, and you did add Judon,

978
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: so I think that definitely raised the floor of this

979
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: team and the ceiling. So that was the two pieces

980
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: that I think need, like another really good, just veteran

981
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: piece on the T and then then he died a

982
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: pass rusher. So good job there addressing those needs. And

983
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: they have the easier schedule in the NFL by a

984
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: long while. For my numbers, it's a joke schedule. The

985
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: other thing I like about this schedule is so you

986
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: have this new coordinator, new staff. Rightie Morris comes in.

987
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: He is a Carol sand Fran cover three tree, but

988
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: he's really adapted and he's one of the sharper defensive

989
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: coordinators out in the NFL. He've ran a lot of

990
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: a lot more quarters and he will adapt his defenses.

991
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: So those are the coordinators that I like. And he

992
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: brought in Jimmy Lake. He's had a lot of success

993
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: like stopping spread offenses in the past, so curious to

994
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: see his wrinkles when he was at Washington stopping Mike Leach.

995
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: That's what he used to be known for, the air raids.

996
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: But I like Morris as a defensive mine. But there's

997
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of changes, right You're going to

998
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: a new scheme defense, you have a new scheme on offense,

999
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: you have a new quarterback, you have a lot of

1000
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: new pieces on D and then you have cousins who like,

1001
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: is he going to be healthy? There's gonna be maybe

1002
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: some ramping up period. The reason I like that is

1003
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: because you know you're at Philly. You start with Pittsburgh,

1004
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: You're at Philly, then Kansas City. Those are tough games.

1005
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: You're you're probably not beating Kansas City. You're probably not

1006
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: winning at Philly. So get those games early when you

1007
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: know you're you're implementing all these changes, you're getting cousins

1008
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: who might take some time, right, and then after that

1009
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: you look at the schedule. I mean, it is a joke.

1010
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: Who's their hardest game is Dallas at home? We just

1011
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: talked about Dallas's that's their hardest game.

1012
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saints, Bucks, Panthers, Seahawks, Bucks, Cowboys, Saints, Broncos, Chargers,

1013
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: who I think are overrated, Vikings, Raiders, Giants, Commanders, Panthers.

1014
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean that is, you could start oh to three

1015
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: and go fourteen to three.

1016
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, look for this team. Look to bet this

1017
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: team over.

1018
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: If they could start they very well could start oh

1019
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: and three, depending on what happens with Pittsburgh.

1020
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: So but even if they're.

1021
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: One and two and it's not you know though, they

1022
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: might get blown out, even by.

1023
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: The Eagles and Chiefs.

1024
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Who knows, people like oh man, I guess this failed

1025
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: experiment or you know whatever. This team could just run

1026
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: off nine, ten, eleven straight wins. They're you know, but

1027
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: at least a handful. It could at least run off

1028
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: five and then be facing the Cowboys, and they'll be

1029
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: like five and three or six and two, so I

1030
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't be afraid. I would be looking to kind of

1031
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: bet this team if the market comes down in them

1032
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: if they start slow.

1033
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: I also might look for like a super Bowl future

1034
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: if they start slow, or like an NFC future. But

1035
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: I project nine point nine kind of close to the market,

1036
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: so nothing for me, but it's a good point they

1037
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: start slow. I do think the team has some upside.

1038
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: And it might be like one of those teams where

1039
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: if they start slow, they you know, right now, look

1040
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: at lines. You know, they're favorite round a field goal

1041
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: in Week four against the Saints, Week five against the Bucks,

1042
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: Week six against the Panthers, and Week seven against the Seahawks,

1043
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: and then they're.

1044
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Like a pick them against the Bucks.

1045
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: So that might be like, at at least earlier in

1046
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: that slate, you know, you might be able to kind

1047
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: of get some value with a short favorite, you know,

1048
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: with them, because you know, if they're like minus three

1049
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: against this or minus two and a half or something

1050
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: against the Saints because they started zero to three, I'll take.

1051
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: I'll take that.

1052
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,759
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1065
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Saints offensive line, that stands out as

1066
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: as an issue. The win total seven and a half,

1067
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: the over is minus well twenty At bet MGM, they're

1068
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: four to one to win the division. PFF has him

1069
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: ranked number thirty two in offensive line, and I mean,

1070
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can argue with it. I mean,

1071
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 2: outside of McCoy, there's just so many questions. McCoy at center,

1072
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: there's just so many questions.

1073
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, Penick has Penning hasn't been good?

1074
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Who is it?

1075
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Ramcheck is out for the year. I mean, which gonna heat?

1076
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: They lost Pete, they lost Hirst, who is their swing guy?

1077
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 2: Ram Chucks out for the year with his knee. You're

1078
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: moving Pennock, who's a bust? Penning who's You're moving him

1079
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: from left tackle to right tackle. You're starting Fuaga at

1080
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: left tackle he was as a rookie, he was a

1081
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: right tackle.

1082
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick is a dumpster fire at left guard. They

1083
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 3: were gonna maybe start SALDEVIRII, the second year player. Isn't

1084
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: play the old old dominion kid, but he's hurt. This

1085
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: offensive line is a massive that's problematic because car can't

1086
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: handle pressure.

1087
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: So and he generally is not great in a new scheme,

1088
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: first year of a new scheme. And it's another new

1089
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: scheme because they let go of you know, long time

1090
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: Peyton oc Carmichael and now there's Kubiak this year and

1091
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: that might ultimately be a good thing, but still another

1092
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: new scheme with a bad offensive line.

1093
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the scheme should be better on paper,

1094
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: but yeah, you're right, I mean, there's gonna be more motion.

1095
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: It was, which was non existing last year, it's just

1096
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: Shanahan Kubiak WEF's lot. Shanahan influenced more play action, but yeah,

1097
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: it's all gonna fall apart. There's no offensive line, and

1098
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Car just buying prep just does not fare well with pressure.

1099
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: Last year he had a sprain Days I know he

1100
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: had a sprain day. Seed joined the beginning of the year.

1101
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: At the end of the year the shoulder end of

1102
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: a concussion, which is part of their struggles. You know,

1103
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: they still won nine games. There were three and six

1104
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: and one score games, but that could happen again. Cars,

1105
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: just like your he is the definition of your average quarterback.

1106
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: So on paper, you had an average quarterback, you have

1107
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: the potential to have a top ten D. You have

1108
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: really good secondary Dennis Allen knows how to coach defenses,

1109
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: and you know you added Willie Gay and defensive line

1110
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: is getting up there in age. But you know, you

1111
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: could have a top ten D with an average quarterback

1112
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: in this division, a lot of potential to win and

1113
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: get to the playoffs. But it's just the offensive line

1114
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 3: I think is just going to hold them back. You

1115
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: have for Seed out a love with it's the offensive line.

1116
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: I can't get there. And Saints fans, and the schedule

1117
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: is super easy. Obviously they're with the division they're in.

1118
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 3: But Saints fans, aren't you tired of this? Like just

1119
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: during its is so far used to be with Breeze

1120
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: and Peyton and winning and in the mix, and you're

1121
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: just like with their salary cap issues, like don't you

1122
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 3: just want to blow it up? I know it'll suck

1123
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: for a couple of years, but yeah, purgatory is the

1124
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: perfect word. I've been with the thirt easiest schedule. I

1125
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: project them seven eight wins, so nothing for me.

1126
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd actually lean under.

1127
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: I really don't like like it's easy on paper, but

1128
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: then it's like, you know, the games that are the

1129
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: easiest are the division games that you could never be

1130
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're kind of favored in a lot

1131
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: of these games, so that could easily go the other way,

1132
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: especially like we saw the Bucks beat to have.

1133
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: Good luck against the Saints.

1134
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Now Canalis is with the Panthers, So you know, if

1135
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 2: the Panthers end up winning one or both of those games,

1136
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean that changes a lot.

1137
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate the under though, And Dennis Allnd

1138
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: by the way, oh win.

1139
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: Five Yeah, Yeah, Dennis Allen's a fade he I mean,

1140
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: if it goes really bad, I could maybe they do

1141
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: blow it up.

1142
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: I could see him. He's The problem is he's a

1143
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: favorite for.

1144
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: First coach fire, so no no real value there. But

1145
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: I got I just feel like kind of the same

1146
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 2: things we talked about covered in last year.

1147
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 1: It's still true.

1148
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: It's still a good defense, but a defense that kind

1149
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: of getting little along in the tooth at some spots,

1150
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: a little bit fragile, and the quarterbacks running a new scheme,

1151
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: and you know, now Kamaras getting up there in age.

1152
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: You know, Johnson's already hurt. Heed's already hurt. Carnal Lovey

1153
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: do not like each other. If everything I've seen just

1154
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: watching them him play with each other is correct. So

1155
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean there's a low floor. But yeah, they, like

1156
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: you said, they still won nine games, so probably a

1157
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: team I look to fade more in more creative ways.

1158
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Maybe you know missed. I think I had them to

1159
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs last year. Maybe that's something you look at.

1160
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: But generally not bullish on the Atlanta I mean on

1161
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints, because I think the Atlanta Falcons

1162
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: are clearly the best team in the division. I think

1163
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: the most undervalue team is the Panthers, which we'll get to.

1164
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: But next up we got the Tampa Bay Bucks. Seven

1165
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 2: and a half minus one forty is the win total.

1166
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1167
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: Again, this team just kind of worries me because Canalis,

1168
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: who had a very good effect on Gino a couple

1169
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: of years ago, very good effect on.

1170
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last year, He's now gone.

1171
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Baker Mayfield at this stage

1172
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: in his career, especially with you know, none of the

1173
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: offense really got hurt Ken Baker Mayfield play as well

1174
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: as he did last year? Is Evans can we penculhim

1175
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: in for yet another thousand yard season? Is Godwin gonna

1176
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: kind of work workout playing more?

1177
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's so there's gonna be some key differences

1178
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 1: could be for the better.

1179
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know, what do you think about this

1180
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: offense without canw It's like, how do you think it's

1181
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: any tangible effect there or just kind of more of

1182
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: the thing.

1183
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: I think Baker Mayfield was pretty lucky last year. The

1184
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: Bucks as a whole, we're very lucky with a lot

1185
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: of metrics and uh yeah, Liam Colnkins in New Oc

1186
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: God went back to slat ice. McMillan might be wide

1187
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 3: receiver to the rookie out of Washington.

1188
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: Well yeah, other yeah, the outside. Yeah, him and Palmer

1189
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: are kind of neck and neck right now.

1190
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, could race to watch, but yeah, I think Mayfield

1191
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: and we know who he is. Look, the Bucks are

1192
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: kind of like the Saints, like they just they just

1193
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: need to blow it up. And then they gave all

1194
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: this money to Baker, Like there's an aging roster that

1195
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: needs to be blown up and they caught a flash

1196
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: in the pan last year in a shitty division, beat

1197
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: the Eagles, and then Baker gets one hundred million. The

1198
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: offensive line is an issue, but at both guard spots,

1199
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna rookie starting at center. I like brem Barton,

1200
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: but is he ready right away? I don't love the defense.

1201
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: They're less talented than last year corner. It's definitely a

1202
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: question pass rush. I know they're going to try to

1203
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: generate it with a lot of blitzes under bowls, but

1204
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: you know there's a couple of rookies with flash, like

1205
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving, Tyke Smith might end up getting the nickel spot.

1206
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: He like fits what Bulls wants to do. Really aggressive

1207
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 3: like off the edge and but yeah, I really don't

1208
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: like what happens.

1209
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: You can move isy and outside or what do you

1210
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: do then? Like? Who? Yeah that could Uh. The Colin was.

1211
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: A guy that was like the at least last well, yeah,

1212
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: he's been the worst.

1213
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't like.

1214
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't like to call him at all.

1215
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why I asked.

1216
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know that that's

1217
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: all gonna work out. I don't think he's gonna just

1218
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: I just think that that's a possibility. And later on

1219
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: the season, I don't know how they would actually shuffle everyone.

1220
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: It's a good question, but I'm just not in love

1221
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: with his defense. A couple of studs that you have,

1222
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: you know, Veya and David Dean is good at one

1223
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: corner spot that you can rely on, but as a

1224
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: whole man, and offensive line is a question play calling.

1225
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about Liam Colin not as high

1226
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: on him as others. And the interior offensive line is

1227
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: really problematic because Baker does not deal with pressure.

1228
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: Well.

1229
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think that they got really lucky last

1230
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: year trying to get an eight under eight. But this

1231
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite unders in the NFC. I

1232
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: project seven three, but it's team I want to fade

1233
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: then I chow value in the current number. So I

1234
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: like the under here in Tampa. The one thing I

1235
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: don't like is, you know, if you look at their schedule,

1236
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: I mean they're in the NFC South, you know it's

1237
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: gonna be easy. I have as the six easiest, but

1238
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: they start with Washington week one, rookie quarterback, Denver week

1239
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: three probably rookie quarterback. So they're catching like the rookie

1240
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks early, which is beneficial. But you know, they also

1241
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: play some really good teams on their schedule too. I

1242
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: don't think they're going to beat San fran Baltimore, Kansas City,

1243
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: which I just don't think are with Philadelphia. So yeah,

1244
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 3: I think they take a step back here. I like

1245
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: the under.

1246
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it was plus one fifteen I bet MGM, so

1247
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: that that kind of can sway you more toward it,

1248
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: because yeah, this team I do haven't projected under as well,

1249
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: but it's there's so many kind of coin flip games

1250
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: that it's not a confident under. But the fact that

1251
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 2: it's plus one fifteen helps.

1252
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm actually looking for like a juiced eight and a

1253
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: half or a juiced eight, and I'm willing to pay

1254
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: for that. I don't think in such a bad division,

1255
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: I think paying for like that extra half win could

1256
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: be worth it. But the Panthers are improved. We'll talk

1257
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: about them next, so I don't think that those are

1258
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: just like the gimmes that they were last year. Yeah,

1259
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: and by the way, when they played when they played

1260
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: Carolina last year, I think I had money on Carolina

1261
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: in the worst game of all time, which just summed

1262
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: up the Panthers season so much. Tampa covered. There's six

1263
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: point favorites and they only scored nine points and they

1264
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: won nine Zio. I think the Panthers at the end

1265
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: of that game missed a field goal and then we're

1266
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: driving in for a touchdown or for and fumbled. They

1267
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: also had a fumble like they were going in and

1268
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: they got batted out into the back of the end

1269
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: zone for the touchback. I think in that game too

1270
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: comedy of errors for the Panthers, who should be better

1271
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: this year. Sweeping the Bucks come back? Yes, clip this,

1272
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: They're sweeping the Bucks this year.

1273
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 1: Market I like I would.

1274
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 2: I would love that because I have Panthers over on

1275
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: their win total. I still like it at five and

1276
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: a half. I think I got it at four and

1277
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: a half. I want to say, yeah, we said on

1278
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: our preseason, yeah it was like our favorite st edge.

1279
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: I showed he's over six wins.

1280
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's it's it's good. I just don't think

1281
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's still gonna be a bad team.

1282
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's gonna be week worst team.

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: And you do have some upside because you know, look

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: at Canal. It's when he you know, he was twenty

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01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: twenty two, he's coaching Geno. I think that the Seattle

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: Seahawks had a win total heading into that year five

1287
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: and a half, Well, Gino plays well and then winning

1288
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: nine games. Then last year the Bucks six and a

1289
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: half win total, Well, Baker Mayfield end up paying well,

1290
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: they win nine games.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, this division is weak.

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: Enough that the Panthers could actually, like you said, have success.

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Speaker 1: In the division.

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01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: And then you know, you got the last play schedule,

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01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: so it's not you know, it's not super hard. I mean,

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01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: you have the games are gonna lose. You're gonna have

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: like games that you're just not gonna win, like Chiefs,

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01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: Eagles probably Cowboys and Bengals. These Eagles, Bengals and probably Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Besides that, there's a lot of teams that they could.

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 3: But true like at that point in time.

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01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: And then you know, Falcons are divisional games, so you

1302
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: can't count them out even though I make them like,

1303
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: you know, six point dogs in that one. You know, Uh,

1304
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 2: they play the Raiders, they play the Saints, they played

1305
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: the Commanders, they play the Broncos, play the Cardinals, they

1306
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: play the Giants. So a lot of winnable, a lot

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: of enough games to get them to six, if not seven,

1308
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: because I just think this is gonna be another one

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: of these, like all these NFC South teams aside for

1310
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: the Falcons that they're kind of they're they're kind of

1311
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: the same, like the Pants probably are the worst.

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: But they made some good additions.

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01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: I think getting better interior lineman Hunt that was big

1314
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: because you know, Bryce Young is short, so interior pressure

1315
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: is gonna really bother him. But also you just didn't

1316
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: have guys that could separate last year. Now you've got

1317
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson will get I think started practicing.

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Eventually he's probably gonna take over for Mingo.

1319
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, thee lend should be okay when he

1320
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like one hundred catch wide receiver,

1321
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: which Johnson should alleviate.

1322
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Uh So, I just think the line will be at better.

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01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: I think the I think Young will just be better

1324
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: because he's gonna be better. Coach Rike was just terrible,

1325
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: and you know the defense will be okay. You got

1326
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: some pieces you got, you got horn, you you got

1327
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: you did get Clowney. Maybe it's like a cheap at

1328
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 2: least for one year, a replacement for Burns you got, Brown,

1329
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: you got you know, Woods and and for I think

1330
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: are good safety. So there's enough here to win you know,

1331
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: six games. I don't know how much more. I actually

1332
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: took a long shot of them to win the division.

1333
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: But you know, the Falcons made some good moves. This

1334
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: is before they had Judai and I think Simmons as well,

1335
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: So the Falcons have kind of fortified their defense a

1336
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: little bit. So, not not as in love with that

1337
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: as I was, But what are you doing with the

1338
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: Panthers are still over on their wins.

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01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: Obviously don't show as much value I'm right now, But

1340
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: I still like it a little bit and it will

1341
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: be a fun bet to sweat if you still want

1342
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: to get in. I mentioned on that podcast, I'm gonna

1343
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna sprinkle. It's come way down. I'm glad

1344
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: you did. I hope some others listened. But yeah, I

1345
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: think this team will be much better. They upgraded their

1346
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: offensive guard position, which was really important, so the offensive

1347
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: line should be better. That was a disaster last year.

1348
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: You know Canalis and Brad it's a They're gonna implement

1349
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 3: a new scheme which I think is gonna be more

1350
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: quarterback friendly, and mentioned Canalis with his quarterback turnaround history.

1351
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: But there's gonna be more motion. Sant fran Rams a

1352
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: lot of parallels there with your horizontal stretch offense misdirection.

1353
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: They're going to use a lot more jet motion outside zone,

1354
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get Young on the move, get him

1355
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: outside the pocket, boot him out. That's important. He's still small,

1356
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: so I think it's gonna be a much friendlier offense

1357
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: for Young. I still think his ceiling is kind of

1358
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: capped by his size, but he'll be better this year

1359
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: just by cheer, experience and just his pedigree alone. He's

1360
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: still was an unbelievable quarterback in college, so he'll be better. Yeah,

1361
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: I like the additions of Johnson. I like Lagett just

1362
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: got to kind of work on his his routes a bit,

1363
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 3: but the d lost some talent. But I trust Everro.

1364
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: I think he's one of the more underrated defensive coordinators

1365
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: in the league. He's a Fangio disciple gap and a

1366
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: f match quarter zone coverage, but a lot more basic

1367
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: way more cover three. I trust him the game plan

1368
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: enough to get enough wins in this division. So they

1369
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: were extremely unlucky last year, even though they never let

1370
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, which is pretty crazy, but they

1371
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: were unlucky across the board. But I think this will

1372
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: be an improved team, and I agree. I think they

1373
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: get at least the six wins. I do like the

1374
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Dane Jackson fit. Random note, but I think it'll help.

1375
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: So Yeah, give me the Panthers and I'll be rooting

1376
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: for you your flyer on the division.

1377
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Panthers, I think will be a lot better this year.

1378
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: But just to recap, So you like the Panthers over

1379
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: and you like.

1380
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: Under, Yeah, those are your two.

1381
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: I like the Giants under and the Panthers over. And

1382
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: I do think Philadelphia wins the NFC East, and I

1383
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: do like Philadelphia for some higher upside plays as well,

1384
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: because I think they have a better path than they've had,

1385
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: but then they had last year.

1386
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: All Right, that's going to wrap it.

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01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: Up for our Action Network NFC East NFC South Betting preview.

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Speaker 1: This is part one.

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: We'll have part two with the NFC North and the

1390
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: NFC West. Be sure to check out Stucky and I

1391
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,720
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