Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
Speaker 1: a magnificent, fantastic Tuesday, two hours away from a State
Speaker 1: of the Union. We're a half hour away from Brandon Wikert.
Speaker 1: He's going to talk to us about Iran. What are
Speaker 1: we doing over there? What are Iran's capabilities? Should we
Speaker 1: be worried about something? All that, and so much more
Speaker 1: still to come. We have Selena Zito in the final hour.
Speaker 1: So much to it to come on the world famous
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Now Trump and you never know really
Speaker 1: why he's saying what he's saying, but well, here's the
Speaker 1: headline from town Hall. Trump predicts the Supreme Court could
Speaker 1: rule against his birthright citizenship case after the tariff. So
Speaker 1: let's break all this down in a very simple way.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court just ruled hard against Donald Trump and his tariffs.
Speaker 1: That's a signature policy of Donald Trump. He did not
Speaker 1: take it well, as you can imagine no president would.
Speaker 1: And so that leads us to another thing. I have
Speaker 1: told you before. I believe the case of birthright citizenship.
Speaker 1: I believe it is the most important thing that has
Speaker 1: ever come before the Supreme Court in the United States
Speaker 1: of America. We have a fourteenth Amendment. That fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 1: was for freed slaves, ensuring that freed slaves were given
Speaker 1: what they are one hundred percent obligated to one hundred
Speaker 1: percent citizenship in citizenship rights. And everyone knew that's what
Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment was about. The entire thing was about
Speaker 1: freed slaves. But because of our insanely broken legal system,
Speaker 1: broken judges, broken lawyers, broken everything, somehow along the way
Speaker 1: they twisted the Fourteenth Amendment to meaning anyone who has
Speaker 1: a baby in America, regardless of citizenship status of the mother.
Speaker 1: If the baby is born in America, that baby is
Speaker 1: automatically given citizenship a Social Security number. Essentially, that baby
Speaker 1: gets a share of your birthright as an American citizen.
Speaker 1: If you're an American, I realize people are listening to
Speaker 1: me from all over the world. That is bonkers, and
Speaker 1: everybody knows it's bonkers. But it has been exploited by
Speaker 1: foreigners for ages. You've probably heard terms in the past
Speaker 1: like chain migration, But why is that even a thing? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm here, but let me see if I can sponsor
Speaker 1: my third cus's brother and why it's a thing is
Speaker 1: people come over here in droves, they bring their relatives here,
Speaker 1: they start crapping out kids, and they're all American citizens.
Speaker 1: So even if mom and dad are both illegal, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Little baby one is an American citizen. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: You cannot have a country this way. And the reason
Speaker 1: it's such a huge deal is the problem of foreigners
Speaker 1: invading the country gets exponentially worse every single year. We
Speaker 1: are in a race against the clock that we may
Speaker 1: not be able to defeat if we can't get enough
Speaker 1: people deported because they're having babies. Even if you told
Speaker 1: me right now, the Trump administration was going to hit
Speaker 1: let's call it ten million deportations if we include self deportations.
Speaker 1: That's probably a realistic number. Hopefully it's more than that.
Speaker 1: But by the end of Trump's four four years, let's
Speaker 1: say they hit ten million self deport well, deportations in general,
Speaker 1: South people, we deport sounds good, right, and it is good. However,
Speaker 1: how many of those ten million over the course of
Speaker 1: the next four years have managed to have or make
Speaker 1: babies here in the United States of America. Well, deport
Speaker 1: mom and dad all you want back to Nigeria. That
Speaker 1: baby is an American citizen now, and then that baby,
Speaker 1: as an American citizen, grows up to have other babies
Speaker 1: American citizens who have other babies American citizens. Soon you
Speaker 1: have a country of foreigners. You could argue, certainly in
Speaker 1: certain places like the Blue Areas were already there where
Speaker 1: armies of foreigners decide elections. Do I need to remind
Speaker 1: you why Zoorn Mamdani is the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 1: Remember American New Yorkers rejected him outright. They wanted nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Soroan Mandani. Yet he comfortably waltzed into
Speaker 1: the mayor's chair because foreigners, an army of them, marched
Speaker 1: to the polls and put him there. We've already lost
Speaker 1: parts of the country to foreigners. This is not a
Speaker 1: small deal. It won't be treated like a big deal
Speaker 1: by enough people just because people don't understand what is
Speaker 1: happening and why the Communists have brought in these foreigners.
Speaker 1: People don't want to understand and accept it. But if
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court actually is going to rule on this,
Speaker 1: it's a huge deal. And I don't you know, you
Speaker 1: know me, I don't oversell the importance little of any
Speaker 1: political win or loss. Do I have ever done that
Speaker 1: to you? I don't do that. Ah, this is everything.
Speaker 1: The midterms are everything. Without it, all is lost. The
Speaker 1: presidential election is everything. Without it, all is lost. I've
Speaker 1: never said that, and it's not true. There are a
Speaker 1: thousand battles to fight in this war of ours. We
Speaker 1: will win some and we will lose some. You want
Speaker 1: to win more than you lose. But some battles are
Speaker 1: of a much greater importance than others. And how the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court decides on this case is not everything either.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that to you, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be on the top five list for most important battles
Speaker 1: we have to fight because you're facing an enemy that
Speaker 1: is multiplying every single year, and they're legal. We have
Speaker 1: to start to tackle legal immigration. What Chris Chris said,
Speaker 1: Do I trust the justices on our side? Of course? Not?
Speaker 1: Of course not. We've got what three reliable justices on
Speaker 1: our now. Look, Communists view their position on the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: really any court they're in. They view their position there
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to move the revolution forward. You never ever, ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 1: ever ever have to worry about which way Katanji Brown
Speaker 1: Jackson is going to vote. It'll have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the law, the Constitution, or anything else. She will
Speaker 1: vote to move the communist revolution forward every single time,
Speaker 1: and twice on Sunday. That's why she was put there. However,
Speaker 1: whenever you get someone on the right on the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: someone the Republican President nominates, you have to sit in
Speaker 1: stress about how they're going to interpret this. They put
Speaker 1: warriors on the court and we put originalists. Hey, just
Speaker 1: care us about the constitution. Look, I love originalism. I
Speaker 1: love the Constitution. But if you interpret it in a
Speaker 1: way that it screws us every time from stopping the communists,
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. John Roberts, the Chief Justice, coming
Speaker 1: up with some kaka mami convoluted excuse to not overturn Obamacare,
Speaker 1: which was so insanely unconstitutional, I just beyond belief. But
Speaker 1: of course he had to twist himself and the knots
Speaker 1: to screw us over so he didn't have to repeal Obama. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not repeal but basically strike down Obamacare. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not confident at all, and I'm not trying to stress
Speaker 1: you out, but this will be one that your Norman
Speaker 1: neighbors don't pay attention to or care about. It's a big, big,
Speaker 1: big deal, a big deal. I mean, these people are multiplying.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately these days we don't repeat this enough or
Speaker 2: we don't we don't have this this hockey. The concept
Speaker 2: firm in our minds that Islam did not come to coexist.
Speaker 3: Islam, Islam and Islam. Yah, what are you? And Islam
Speaker 3: is raised high and nothing is raised above Islam. We
Speaker 3: can't think of Islam that it came to live with
Speaker 3: these other religions in the sense that Islam is a
Speaker 3: religion amongst those religions, and they have a share with
Speaker 3: the truth, and they have a share of justice, and
Speaker 3: they have a share of you know.
Speaker 2: This worship of the correct, worship.
Speaker 3: Of a lost title tide.
Speaker 2: Islam came to correct all of that. Islam came to
Speaker 2: remove the oppression of all those religions.
Speaker 3: And it is the only truth and it is the
Speaker 3: only way to justice.
Speaker 1: Muslim called a prayer every day in dearborn Michigan. That
Speaker 1: was in Chicago, by the way, he wasn't giving that
Speaker 1: speech in Iran. You hear this. David Hawk did this
Speaker 1: with Nick Shirley. I want to make sure they get
Speaker 1: the credit for all this whole thing. But talking about
Speaker 1: Somali's listen to this twenty million in four years.
Speaker 4: What happened was this fraud framework is they brought the
Speaker 4: Somalis in because they had a garaaranteed voting block for
Speaker 4: all eternity, and they all vote Democrat. And they'll say
Speaker 4: they have nine people living in an apartment and guess what,
Speaker 4: the state sends them nine ballots. There's no verification. This
Speaker 4: is like the Wild West, and it's destroying Minnesota's destroying country.
Speaker 1: Democrats didn't bring in twenty million foreigners by accident. They
Speaker 1: did it on purpose. They created an app for their
Speaker 1: phone so they could schedule their invasion of the country.
Speaker 1: This Supreme Court case is one of the most important
Speaker 1: battles we will ever have. You could argue easily it's
Speaker 1: more important than the next presidential election and the midterms combined.
Speaker 1: And I don't know which way it's going to go.
Speaker 1: I do know this. We have a bunch of very dirty,
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Speaker 1: from all kinds of different cultures who don't share your
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Speaker 1: very badly, steal from you. Every day we have to
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Speaker 1: seek speaking of thief in the night, speaking of foreigners,
Speaker 1: did you hear this? Somali?
Speaker 5: We have suffering starting for Ice. We wanna whoever bring
Speaker 5: over here. We want to debut only. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I'm asking our governor and our see.
Speaker 1: I sear on my life this is English.
Speaker 5: They say, Yeah, tex Bayer, we need bail back whatever
Speaker 5: they committed Ice.
Speaker 3: Thank you, m.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely need more of those people in the country,
Speaker 1: for sure. I feel enriched. Hey, Jesse, as a fellow men,
Speaker 1: you whisper, I feel obliged to slide this suggestion your
Speaker 1: way if you weren't already aware. Popeyes, I simply brought
Speaker 1: back their Cajun flounder sandwich, so I swung by since
Speaker 1: it's been a few years since they carried it. It
Speaker 1: puts Mick Dy's filet of fish to shame. If you
Speaker 1: get it, substitute the fried pickles for fries. Listen, Bud,
Speaker 1: I love me some Popeyes chicken I do. I like
Speaker 1: the spicy chicken. I like the Cajun fries. I've explained
Speaker 1: to you before that Popeye's blackened ranch is one of
Speaker 1: the underrated condiments. Well, you know you can buy it
Speaker 1: by the bottle. Buy it by the bottle. How do
Speaker 1: I know this? Because I do buy it by the bottle? Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm a Popeyes fan. Don't take this any other way.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that I would get fish from Popeyes?
Speaker 1: Have you been in the Popeyes?
Speaker 6: Have you?
Speaker 1: Have you had personal interactions with with the people who
Speaker 1: work in Popeyes? Have you when you're standing in line
Speaker 1: at Popeyes? Have you taken a moment to look around
Speaker 1: at the other clientele? Now do you think this is
Speaker 1: the kind of place where you should pick up some fish? What? Chris? What?
Speaker 1: All right? Chris brought up a good point. You don't
Speaker 1: achieve greatness without some risk. That's a very fair point.
Speaker 1: But look, I'm not a fish man. As you know.
Speaker 1: I will eat a McDonald's filet of fish because I'm
Speaker 1: an American, But I'm not a fish fish man. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would get the fish in Popeyes. I
Speaker 1: just I don't think I would. I would you would
Speaker 1: you buy sushi from Taco Bell? You know I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a t Bell guy. I'm mister t Bell. Still
Speaker 1: a shame they took away the MEXI melt with. That's
Speaker 1: another story. Would you get sushi from there? Have you
Speaker 1: been in t bell? I wouldn't, Dear menu master, thanks
Speaker 1: to you for clarifying you've been on a male vitality
Speaker 1: stack for a while. We'd only think you were on
Speaker 1: a female stack if you did something gay like order
Speaker 1: ice cream from a bar. Anyway, he said, regarding your
Speaker 1: discussion the other day, which one would you rather see
Speaker 1: raising the voting age or repeal the Nineteenth Amendment? Your thoughts.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing on voting. It should be greatly restricted.
Speaker 1: How you restrict it, I don't care. Look, it's fun
Speaker 1: to joke about the Nineteenth Amendment. It really is, and
Speaker 1: obviously it would save the country, but let's set that aside.
Speaker 1: I just want strict restrictions. That's probably not the right
Speaker 1: way to put that, but I want restrictions on who
Speaker 1: can vote. It's insane to think you can preserve a
Speaker 1: free country, a constitutional republic by allowing everyone to vote
Speaker 1: who happens to live to the age of eighteen. That's nuts,
Speaker 1: and the founders knew that to be nuts. Did it
Speaker 1: ever occur to all these nice people today who don't
Speaker 1: want to tell no anybody know that the men who
Speaker 1: created this wonderful, free country in which we live. The
Speaker 1: men who wrote the Constitution, the men who wrote the
Speaker 1: Bill of Rights, they didn't want everyone to vote, and
Speaker 1: they didn't allow everyone to vote. That's not a thing
Speaker 1: that was ever even considered. I couldn't imagine sitting down
Speaker 1: with Thomas Jefferson John Adams and explaining to them, Hey,
Speaker 1: this wonderful country. I want you to know that one
Speaker 1: day everyone who lives to see eighteen will get to
Speaker 1: vote for who runs it. They wouldn't even think it
Speaker 1: was possible. They would laugh at you. They would laugh
Speaker 1: in your face at the very idea of that. And
Speaker 1: what those restrictions should be. I'm not sure because I
Speaker 1: just want some Is it going to be only property owners?
Speaker 1: I don't know that's been thrown around. Fine with that,
Speaker 1: If that's the way you want to go. Should we
Speaker 1: greatly restrict the age limit on it? Meaning ay, no, no,
Speaker 1: not eighteen, how about thirty thirty five? Then you can
Speaker 1: vote to see who runs the country. Look, there's an
Speaker 1: argument to be made there. I don't know which way
Speaker 1: you want to go, but I know there's a reason
Speaker 1: Democrats they never try to push it seriously because there's
Speaker 1: always pushback on it. But there's a reason Democrats are
Speaker 1: always trying to lower the voting age. I think you
Speaker 1: should vote at sixteen. Why do you think they want that?
Speaker 1: Because sixteen year olds know so much about how the
Speaker 1: government should be run. There's a reason Democrats want more
Speaker 1: people voting no ID every sixteen year old, because they
Speaker 1: know the people who are dumb will vote for Democrats
Speaker 1: every single time. All right, Brandon Wiker is going to
Speaker 1: join us next. I have many questions about Iran. What
Speaker 1: are we doing, why are we doing it? What can
Speaker 1: Iran do to us? They can they actually hurt us?
Speaker 1: Did they have that ability? We'll do a breakdown of
Speaker 1: this next. You're listening to the Oracle love this one.
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Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Tuesday, an hour
Speaker 1: and a half from the State of the Union. But
Speaker 1: we should probably discuss the gigantic armada we have parked
Speaker 1: outside of Iran right now. What is happening, Why is
Speaker 1: it happening? What are the potential dangers? Anyway? You know,
Speaker 1: we always rely on Brandon Wiker to break so much
Speaker 1: of this stuff down for us. He's so good at that.
Speaker 1: Brandon Weicker authors so many books. One of his books
Speaker 1: is The Shadow War about Iran, and Brandon of course
Speaker 1: joins us. Now, okay, brand And then first we have
Speaker 1: a little bit here. What kind of hardware do we
Speaker 1: have over there?
Speaker 6: So we've got the largest build up since two thousand
Speaker 6: and three, which of course was the invasion of Irrack.
Speaker 6: We've got a massive number of US Air Force assets,
Speaker 6: not just the warplanes like the F thirty five, but
Speaker 6: we've got lots of logistics planes flying in and they
Speaker 6: keep flying in, which you know, from your experience in
Speaker 6: the military, I'm sure you know that usually means something's
Speaker 6: getting ready to pop off. And then we have the Navy,
Speaker 6: and the Navy has the USS Abraham Lincoln, which is
Speaker 6: sort of the prime was the primary carrier for this mission.
Speaker 6: They've ducked behind the Mountains of Oman in the Arabian Sea, which,
Speaker 6: in the case to me, they are in a strike
Speaker 6: position and they're going to try to use those mountains
Speaker 6: as cover against any Iranian anti ship ballistic missiles or
Speaker 6: drones or hypersonic weapons that might be fired at the
Speaker 6: Abraham Lincoln in retaliation for any air strike. And then
Speaker 6: recently we have the thirteen billion dollar world's largest, most advanced,
Speaker 6: supposedly USS gerald R Ford, which is the namesake of
Speaker 6: its class. It's the newest class of aircraft carrier that
Speaker 6: has entered into the Mediterranean and is supposed to be
Speaker 6: basically on station off the coast of Israel, where it
Speaker 6: was supposed to be serving as sort of an air
Speaker 6: defense platform against any Iranian missiles that might be fired
Speaker 6: toward Israel. But the problem is, as I'm sure you've heard,
Speaker 6: it's backed up full of poop, and so I don't know,
Speaker 6: maybe the Ford is planning to fling some of that
Speaker 6: excess sewage at Iran at this point. But but there's
Speaker 6: a bit of a complication there because the Ford was
Speaker 6: brought in specifically because the administration is worried that the
Speaker 6: Arabs will either be unwilling or unable to assist in
Speaker 6: shooting down any potential Iranian retaliation in the form of
Speaker 6: those missiles, hypersonic weapons and drone swarms. So the Ford
Speaker 6: was being brought in to kind of replace or augment
Speaker 6: what the Arabs might not be able to do. But
Speaker 6: it's a massive amount of firepower, lots of air power,
Speaker 6: which indicates to me that as early as the State
Speaker 6: of the Union tonight, Trump might start dropping bombs.
Speaker 1: Okay, but just I have so much I want to
Speaker 1: get to here with Brandon Wiker, Let's let me ask
Speaker 1: this one before we move on to other things. Ground
Speaker 1: assets for us. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I understand we have a lot of air power, a
Speaker 1: lot of naval power. We have a lot of missiles
Speaker 1: and planes. Okay, do we have ground units? I'm trying
Speaker 1: to gauge what exactly we might be doing in Iran
Speaker 1: or to Iran.
Speaker 6: Well, I know for a fact that Israel has assets
Speaker 6: on the ground in Iran. In fact, they've pretty much
Speaker 6: been there continuously since last summer of the Twelve Day War.
Speaker 6: I am. I can't confirm, and I don't know if
Speaker 6: i'd want to, but I'm pretty sure we probably have
Speaker 6: small groups on the ground and key areas in Iran.
Speaker 6: But even if we didn't, the Israelis are on site
Speaker 6: and they've been embedded for a long time, so I'm
Speaker 6: sure that any assisting of air strikes and whatnot, if
Speaker 6: we don't have anybody there on the ground, I'm sure
Speaker 6: the Israelis could facilitate that, but I'm sure we do.
Speaker 6: And in terms of the troops, I don't know if
Speaker 6: you've been seeing this, but Trump has been for the
Speaker 6: last six weeks or so drastically withdrawing and repositioning forces
Speaker 6: that were already in the Middle East, moving them out
Speaker 6: of bases in Syria and other parts of Iraq and
Speaker 6: moving them either out of the region entirely or moving
Speaker 6: them to more hardened positions in places like your Bill,
Speaker 6: which is the sort of unofficial capital in northern Iraq
Speaker 6: of the Kurdish Iraqi group that has long been aligned
Speaker 6: with US. So clearly he is preparing. Trump is for
Speaker 6: not only striking Iran, but for the inevitable fusillade of missiles,
Speaker 6: hypersonic weapons, and drones which will number in the thousands
Speaker 6: in a worst case scenario, fired at US military facilities
Speaker 6: in the region, at Arab partners, their oil industry, at Israel,
Speaker 6: and at US carriers.
Speaker 1: Okay, that leads me perfectly into my next question. All
Speaker 1: these missiles you just mentioned, the Abraham Lincoln is hiding
Speaker 1: behind some mountains. What do we I mean, you always
Speaker 1: get these stupid threats from all these Arab leaders. We're
Speaker 1: going to strike the Great Satin blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: But what do we believe they're actually capable of realistically?
Speaker 1: What can Iran do to us?
Speaker 6: Well, the Iranians are being assisted by both the Russians
Speaker 6: and the Chinese. Now, in the case of those anti
Speaker 6: ship ballistic missiles, they're very advanced, and the Iranians have
Speaker 6: large numbers of them, and they are being helped along
Speaker 6: by China's Yalgon satellite constellation and other Chinese satellites that
Speaker 6: are basically in real time keeping an eye at all
Speaker 6: times on the carriers, notably the USS Abraham Lincoln, and
Speaker 6: that information is being relayed to the missile operators in Iran.
Speaker 6: For those anti ship ballistic missiles, which means that they
Speaker 6: have a very significant chance of at least imaging the
Speaker 6: flight deck of the carrier in question. There's also the
Speaker 6: added threat of a swarming attack. So my navy friends
Speaker 6: have been kind of getting on me for some of
Speaker 6: my reportings, saying you don't understand the carriers not alone,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. But what I keep saying is, look,
Speaker 6: they've got so many missiles and so many anti ship
Speaker 6: systems that and so many drones that what they could
Speaker 6: possibly do is fire basically a large you know, swarm
Speaker 6: at once that will force the carrier and its attendant
Speaker 6: battlegroup to focus on deflecting that. Meanwhile, Iran's AIP diesel
Speaker 6: submarine basically quietly nudges itself into torpedo range, and as
Speaker 6: the carrier is focused on deflecting those missiles and hypersonics
Speaker 6: and drones, the god Air class or the Fatah class
Speaker 6: rather submarine that Iran has could quietly pop off a
Speaker 6: couple of torpedoes at the care And the problem is
Speaker 6: that the carriers in throughout history, now we've done war
Speaker 6: games with diesel against diesel electric submarines, and these older
Speaker 6: submarines actually pose a very real threat to the carrier
Speaker 6: because we can't detect them. They're too quiet, and they're
Speaker 6: too small, and they sometimes managed to break through our
Speaker 6: electromagnetic scanning that we do with aircraft that's part of
Speaker 6: the carrier's defenses. So it's a real threat, especially if
Speaker 6: they're preoccupied defending against those missile and drone swarms and
Speaker 6: this submarine pops up and tries to pop off some
Speaker 6: of these torpedoes at the carrier.
Speaker 1: Speaking with Brandon Whiker. Brandon, do you have ten more
Speaker 1: minutes for us? I just I have more questions. Okay,
Speaker 1: we are going to take a break a little bit
Speaker 1: early because I want to come back and give him
Speaker 1: all the time he needs. We are going to be
Speaker 1: back with Brandon Whikert breaking all this stuff down. Hang
Speaker 1: on truth attitude. Jesse Kelly is the Jesse Kelly Show
Speaker 1: on a Fantastic Tuesday. Member, you can email us Jesse
Speaker 1: at Jesse kellyshow dot com your love, your hate, your
Speaker 1: death threats. Back to our national security guy, Brandon Wiker
Speaker 1: talking about Iran's capabilities. Okay, so you just mentioned they're old, small,
Speaker 1: crappy subs that apparently we're gonna have a difficult time
Speaker 1: detecting navy wise. What can they do? What can't they do?
Speaker 1: Because our navy is so big and so advanced. Surely
Speaker 1: we can just sweep them off the seas right.
Speaker 6: Well, certainly we can. And ultimately if it's a straight
Speaker 6: up conventional fight, yeah, we're gonna be able to knock
Speaker 6: them out. We also have to bear in mind that
Speaker 6: this weekend the Israelis were supposed to initiate strikes and
Speaker 6: they held off at the last minute because they were
Speaker 6: very worried about what Huckabee's comments to Tucker Carlson were
Speaker 6: going to do to the Arabs, and of course the
Speaker 6: Arabs were apoplectic over those comments. So now this is
Speaker 6: why they held off. But part of any I think
Speaker 6: any early strike package, either for the Israelis or the US,
Speaker 6: would be to target Iranian naval bases in order to
Speaker 6: degrade their naval capacities, such as it is. Ultimately, of course,
Speaker 6: I believe most of Iran's and naval assets are already
Speaker 6: at sea, and I suspect they are already lined up,
Speaker 6: not for engaging directly in conflict with our navy, because
Speaker 6: that would be insane, but to blockade the Straight of Hormose. Now,
Speaker 6: I spoke with the retired Navy captain who commanded one
Speaker 6: of our submarines for many years. He tells me that
Speaker 6: this is not to be worried about, because he's sure
Speaker 6: the skippers of the submarines that are already in the
Speaker 6: region for US have been training and practicing to break
Speaker 6: up any Iranian potential blockade of the Straight of Hormus,
Speaker 6: which is one of the world's seven most important oil
Speaker 6: choke points. But as I said to him, even if
Speaker 6: it is a temporary closure, that could potentially destabilize the
Speaker 6: price of oil, spike it rather and destabilize the world
Speaker 6: economy with real political implications here in the US as
Speaker 6: we enter the midterms. But the Navy could probably, yes,
Speaker 6: eventually overcome any blockade. But the Iranians aren't going to
Speaker 6: engage US conventionally. They're not going to do a direct
Speaker 6: line of attack on us. They're going to try to
Speaker 6: do things like what I mentioned before the break, trying
Speaker 6: to distract the carrier with these missile swarms while there
Speaker 6: diesel electric submarine maybe gets in for a lucky shot
Speaker 6: to at least damage the American carrier. They don't have
Speaker 6: to sink it. In fact, it would be crazy for
Speaker 6: them to try to sink it, because then that would
Speaker 6: prompt us to escalate even more. But if they damaged
Speaker 6: it to the point that it was no longer usable
Speaker 6: in terms of being able to deploy aircraft, that would
Speaker 6: send a big enough signal to the Americans to back off.
Speaker 6: At least that's the thinking and table, And then the
Speaker 6: rest of the Iranian Navy would try to blockade the
Speaker 6: Strait of Hormuz and potentially blockade the strait of babel
Speaker 6: Man deb which is another oak choke point nearby. They
Speaker 6: could do things to complicate the price of oil. I
Speaker 6: spoke to a commodities trader in Chicago last week. I said, yeah,
Speaker 6: this could spike the price of oil eighty to ninety
Speaker 6: dollars a barrel. It's at around sixty six dollars a barrel. Now,
Speaker 6: the guy in Chicago who trades oil, he said, Brandon,
Speaker 6: he goes, if they really do this in Iran, he goes,
Speaker 6: it could spike the price of oil to one hundred
Speaker 6: and thirty to one hundred and fifty dollars a barrel.
Speaker 6: So we're talking massive recession territory here in the United
Speaker 6: States if the Iranians go through with that threat.
Speaker 1: Again, we're speaking with Brandon Wikert. Okay, well you just
Speaker 1: answered my next question. At least partially, that's our capabilities
Speaker 1: and their capabilities, and we know that Israelis are extremely capable. Brandon,
Speaker 1: what are your concerns? I know you have them. You
Speaker 1: never hold back for what are you worried about?
Speaker 6: My worried? What I'm worried about is I mean, we
Speaker 6: can all agree that the Iranian regime is bad. We
Speaker 6: don't want it to continue. It'd be wonderful if they
Speaker 6: knew better group took over or whatever. But ultimately, right now,
Speaker 6: the US military is not in a good state. And
Speaker 6: you're seeing this play out with the sewage crisis on
Speaker 6: the new carrier. You're seeing this play out with the
Speaker 6: fact that even General Kane, the Joint Chief of Staff,
Speaker 6: the Chairman, he's now coming out and admitting that he
Speaker 6: is very much opposed to strikes because he thinks he's
Speaker 6: going to go pear shaped real fast, and he thinks
Speaker 6: he's going to get blamed for it. So are Our
Speaker 6: military is not as dominant as we like to think
Speaker 6: it is, and that's because we've had bad presidents the
Speaker 6: last thirty years who have wasted our military power, stretched
Speaker 6: it too thin, and now it's at its breaking point,
Speaker 6: which you're seeing it start to break. And my concern
Speaker 6: is we're going to pick a fight with Iran, and
Speaker 6: Iran is going to get some lucky blows in because
Speaker 6: this is what they've been training for, and in so doing,
Speaker 6: they're going to basically break the back of the US
Speaker 6: military in such a spectacular way that, yeah, we might
Speaker 6: still be able to defeat them in the long run,
Speaker 6: but it's going to do so much damage to our
Speaker 6: image as a great military power that basically it would
Speaker 6: set the stage for a total collapse of the US
Speaker 6: as the world's dominant power, that nobody would want to
Speaker 6: look at US anymore as anything other than a nuisance.
Speaker 6: And it will set the stage for China's inevitable rise,
Speaker 6: which at this point I believe is a FATA complete
Speaker 6: unless we completely reverse course, come back to the Western hemisphere,
Speaker 6: focus on building America back up. We can't do that
Speaker 6: if we're picking a fight with the Middle East and
Speaker 6: getting China and Russia involved. This thing could easily become
Speaker 6: the flashpoint of World War three.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about that hemisphere thing. Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: he even flat out says it the Monroe doctrine. Worry
Speaker 1: about your own hemisphere. That's why we locked down in
Speaker 1: venezuel Okay. So why are we here? Why are we
Speaker 1: over any on? What is driving this?
Speaker 6: I suspect it is. I suspect it is largely Trump's
Speaker 6: proximity with net Nyahu. I think that Trump genuinely and
Speaker 6: I agree with him on this. We do not want
Speaker 6: Iran to get the bomb But at the same time,
Speaker 6: as I say, we are not in a position militarily,
Speaker 6: I don't believe to really change the situation on the
Speaker 6: ground enough to prevent them from becoming an Iran, at
Speaker 6: least some semblance of a powerful country. And I think that,
Speaker 6: really though it is it is Trump's alliance with Israel
Speaker 6: that's driving this, because really Iran is the bigger threat
Speaker 6: to Israel than it is to US. I mean, let's
Speaker 6: just get real and understandably, if you're in Israeli, you're thinking,
Speaker 6: how do I get rid of this regime? Because they're
Speaker 6: sponsored terror, they're hurting our people. Ten to seven was
Speaker 6: at least indirectly part of the Iranian Grand Plan. So
Speaker 6: obviously the Israelis do not want to see this regime continue,
Speaker 6: and they feel that right now is the window of opportunity.
Speaker 6: But I think that's a mirage. Furthermore, I do believe
Speaker 6: nets in Yahoo. I think he is allowing his personal
Speaker 6: political ambition to ignore ten seven and to downplay it
Speaker 6: by saying to the Israeli people, yeah, that happened, but
Speaker 6: guess what, I got rid of the great bugaboo Iran.
Speaker 6: But that, unfortunately, I don't think is a real potentiality.
Speaker 6: I think it's more likely that if we really bomb
Speaker 6: Iran and really go to town on them, they will
Speaker 6: do those missile attacks and they will potentially destroy Tel Aviv.
Speaker 6: Hesbula could get involved and destroy Haifa, and that's basically
Speaker 6: the end of the Israeli economy at that point. Those
Speaker 6: two cities alone are hugely important for Israel's economy. So
Speaker 6: I think that the Israelis are miscalculating, but I think
Speaker 6: that they're the ones really driving this because of their
Speaker 6: relationship with Trump, and Trump, as an ally to them,
Speaker 6: wants to help them because he thinks in the long run,
Speaker 6: it'll pay off for the US to get rid of
Speaker 6: this terror supporting state in Iran. But unfortunate, again, I
Speaker 6: don't believe our capabilities are matched well with what needs
Speaker 6: to happen in Iran for that threat to go away.
Speaker 1: He is Brandon Wiker. Go read his stuff. I do,
Speaker 1: and now you know why. Thank you, my brother. I
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