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Speaker 3: is Nate and Claudia Winnaker in studio to give the

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Speaker 3: especially from California and New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland or Florida. Now,

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Speaker 3: without further d please welcome our friends Nate and Claudia there. So,

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Speaker 3: first of all, how did you guys end up finding

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Speaker 3: about CT what? I want to what's the relationship here?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, married couple's that's on the very base. Labe

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Speaker 2: originally met well over twenty years ago, and we've been

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Speaker 2: together for the last fifteen or so.

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Speaker 3: And you guys told me a pretty interesting story. There

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Speaker 3: was a little gap there, which I found fascinating. There

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Speaker 3: was about an eight year gap before you met again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little rendezvous when we first met, which

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Speaker 2: was only you know, let's say it was a good stand,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and we met back up about eight

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Speaker 3: And would you say cannabis has kind of kept you

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Speaker 6: I think being business minded, Yeah, has kept us together.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think we were talking earlier and I mentioned I

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Speaker 6: I think it was pretty organic after that.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Now, you guys grew up grew up here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, originally from East Coast for me, and then did

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Speaker 4: And Chris, you've known them outside of business, right, Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've known Nate and Klaia now for gosh, I no, seven.

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Speaker 6: Six years something like that. It was a while ago.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a good time.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say the better part of ten years.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's yeah, right, I feel like it's been a

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Speaker 2: Born, partially raised there, then partially raised here. Okay, school wise,

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Speaker 2: I mean in the streets mostly of California taught me.

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Speaker 3: Whence you guys met the was it you already had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, my friend who had introduced us originally

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Speaker 5: We were both very business minded, but at the time

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Speaker 5: He's like, I'll tell you later. So I'm like, oh great.

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Speaker 5: Turns out one of the dispensers had closed and he

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Speaker 2: They had dumped a bunch of their trim on us,

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Speaker 2: which was, you know, nothing that you were going to smoke,

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Speaker 4: And this is about eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: This is closer to a dozen years ago, Wow, maybe.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that kind of kicked off our cookie bootlegging.

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Speaker 3: It was his recipes he used. Was that something you

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Speaker 3: just picked up from growing up? Or was it from

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Speaker 1: Did it start off as like just normal kind of

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Speaker 2: I was making for so back then, you know edibles.

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Speaker 3: And when we spoke earlier, you were speaking at such

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Speaker 3: did you go to some weirds college and.

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Speaker 2: Now partial college? But you know, I got caught up

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Speaker 4: Learned, the sciences from the streets.

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Speaker 1: You know, were you always into science as a kid

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Speaker 1: Man and you, Miss Claudia. What about your background. I

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Speaker 1: know you've got a college education.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I went to film school.

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Speaker 5: I focused on marketing and advertising, and so I moved

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Speaker 5: But so I did my best to stay in New York,

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Speaker 5: And I worked in Chelsea and anyway, I started to

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Speaker 5: We started dating, I kind of just fell into cannabis.

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Speaker 5: And with my marketing expertise, I kind of and you know,

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Speaker 6: And then I kept trying to leave cannabis because.

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Speaker 1: I'm like I was gonna say, were you already like

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, yeah, I've been a consumer of cannabis

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so I just.

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Speaker 5: Started freelance graph designing for a lot of cannabis companies

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Speaker 5: It was amazing and and like need said, through those

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the state, I always have been curious that

444
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Speaker 3: what segment of the testing industry is regulated. Is it

445
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: kind of pay for play where if somebody has shitty

446
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 3: product they can kind of slide in.

447
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Speaker 4: How would you speak to that?

448
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Speaker 3: You know, obviously you guys have a higher standard, But

449
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Speaker 3: I just I've heard a lot of grumblings and I'd

450
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Speaker 3: love to hear.

451
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Speaker 1: There's definitely people that are doing lab shopping.

452
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Speaker 2: Right well, just from the thirty thousand foot view, only

453
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of the cannabis or forty five percent

454
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Speaker 2: of the cannabis goes through the licensed market in California,

455
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 2: which means the majority of cannabis out there is unregulated. Okay,

456
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: it is weird for us to ever test unregulated anything

457
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 2: cannabis extracts flower, anything, and for it not to come

458
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: back with a rainbow of pesticides and other contamina.

459
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Speaker 4: Interesting.

460
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Speaker 2: So, more than half of the cannabis sold within California

461
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: can be said to be content at risk for contamination.

462
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Speaker 4: Now I see it.

463
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Speaker 3: It's bad if I go into a recognized dispensary that's

464
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Speaker 3: paying its taxes and has an a rating, et cetera.

465
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Speaker 3: If you blind tested ten different products there, would you

466
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Speaker 3: still experience that.

467
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: What you would tend to see these days is a

468
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: lot of people kind of fibbing about their THHC. There's

469
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Speaker 2: a lot of subpart.

470
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Speaker 1: There's like a ten percent leeway, right.

471
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Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about here, a good way.

472
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Speaker 2: So that ten percent right there is actually just for labeling.

473
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Speaker 2: You know, not every butt of cannabis is going to

474
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Speaker 2: be the same, not every cartridge that's filled is going

475
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Speaker 2: to be the same. Right, And if you want to

476
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Speaker 2: touch that product, you know, the fewest number of times

477
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: you'll get that label on it and everything, so that

478
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: it's only touched once and then it's ready to go

479
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Speaker 2: out the door. So to speak, right, you need to

480
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Speaker 2: have there's certain precautions that companies will take to make

481
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Speaker 2: sure that the THC is on point. But just for

482
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Speaker 2: their sake, there's a ten percent leeway from the label

483
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Speaker 2: that can exist now in the spirit of what the

484
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Speaker 2: state wants. It's you know, a label, you know, to

485
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Speaker 2: not force the need to relabel for everybody. How people

486
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Speaker 2: use it goes way beyond, as my wife mentioned, way

487
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Speaker 2: beyond ten percent, because if we talked about twenty percent strain,

488
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: that means you could cheat it up to twenty two percent,

489
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Speaker 2: which the way the systems are designed, you could technically. However,

490
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Speaker 2: what people have been doing and we've recently secret shopped

491
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: something that was thirty eight percent on the shelf and

492
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: it came back at our lab at eighteen percent. Wow,

493
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Speaker 2: it means that there's What this means is that there's

494
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Speaker 2: a product out there that subpar that found a lab

495
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Speaker 2: to you know, basically fib for them, and in doing

496
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: this they now have this unfortunate scenario that they've created

497
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Speaker 2: where over two times the actual label value is being

498
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Speaker 2: reflected on the label.

499
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. So do you get those calls a lot

500
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Speaker 1: where people are like, hey, if I bring you my TESK,

501
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: can you guarantee X amount of percentage?

502
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Speaker 6: It's a little different. If they don't see the numbers,

503
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 6: they like, they just gist us.

504
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

505
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Speaker 5: They don't bother returning the call. They don't bother saying hey, like,

506
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: you know, can you explain. They don't want information, They

507
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 5: just want the numbers they want, And.

508
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Speaker 6: It's just so.

509
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Speaker 5: Preposterous to me that, you know, nowadays people are telling

510
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: labs the science they want versus the science that exists, right,

511
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 5: and it's frustrating.

512
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Speaker 3: And if somebody is listening and cares about what they're

513
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Speaker 3: putting in their body. The pesticide thing always freaks me out.

514
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: Right. Is there a specific lab.

515
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: Then that is now being ranked or do you guys

516
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 3: have a system of ranking so we can say anything

517
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: from your lab at least we can trust, or is

518
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: there certain brands?

519
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: How do we know what's real and what's not?

520
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Speaker 1: Anymore as hard on the label to put the lab

521
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: that it was tested by.

522
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Speaker 2: No, And as a consumer, there's really unless you're just

523
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: doing deep dives, there's no way to know, like there

524
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: really isn't unless you're familiar with a brand and you

525
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: know who they test through. Interesting, there's no real requirement though,

526
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: is you know Frankie put to be able to put

527
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Speaker 2: that on the label. And even more so, you know

528
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: people who are buying the cannabis are just as easily

529
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: fooled as the consumers. So even that you know what

530
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: you think would be just this hard filter that would

531
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: stop something from low quality getting onto a dispensary shelf,

532
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist. They're subject to the same types of

533
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: FIBs that everybody else is, And all of a sudden

534
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: you have this really kind of overly homogenized outlook on

535
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 2: cannabis too. You know, there's more chemicals in cannabis than

536
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: just THCHC, right, right, But if you look at the

537
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: average consumer, they're not really inspired by that. And with

538
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: so much competition against the black market, everybody, including subpar

539
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: cannabis brands that you know, may only have mid teens

540
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: to offer, have to find and search this certain type

541
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: of really exploit people's lack of education in cannabis to

542
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: try to show that their product is high quality, when

543
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: on one hand, no it's not, that's not accurate data.

544
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: On the secondhand, we even like in the Royal we

545
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: right as cannabis consumers shouldn't even be looking solely at

546
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 2: THHC in the first place, indicator of quality that's so

547
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: much better at the scale you.

548
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Speaker 6: Educated, you care about well not not just educated.

549
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 5: But you care about you know, the full science, the

550
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 5: full profile.

551
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask how people are actually

552
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: asking for like turpine, you know, profiles and showing you.

553
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: The different actual I think the demand for education is

554
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: actually really coming from buntenders, which I think.

555
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: Is a beautiful thing. He does a lot of.

556
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Speaker 5: But tender training, and they are so excited for the information.

557
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 5: They are so excited about the knowledge, and you know,

558
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Speaker 5: I think that the want for the knowledge is out there.

559
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: But I think that's where it kind of gets misconstruted

560
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, because folks are just coming up with

561
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: new things like buttenders like to create their own little

562
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: phrase word. And now we've got the you know, the

563
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: high chirping extracts the htes that are out there, But

564
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 1: that doesn't really tell me how it's extracted other than

565
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: that this particular product is very high in terpenes. But

566
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: does that mean they put fake chirpings in there? You know,

567
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: like where does that process? And so there's definitely a

568
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of confusion, which I also think is from.

569
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

570
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 6: Threshold that sounds nightmare.

571
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: So there's so much more to cannabis than even cannabinoids

572
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: and terpings. Yeah, there's esther's in there. You ever had

573
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: a strain that was banana flavored banana cush banana o

574
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: G that kind of thing. That chemical right there, isn't

575
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: that makes it banana flavored, isn't detectable by a churping profile,

576
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: So you say, what the hell? Like I thought, terps

577
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: equals flavor, Terps equal part of flavor. That's kind of

578
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: like how chocolate chips equal not the flavor of a

579
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookie, but you can kind of taste it

580
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: in there, and you could say the same thing about terps.

581
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: Turps are one of many different chemical groups, Like go

582
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: back to banana, that's an esther huh, slabinoids out there,

583
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: key tones, lack tones, all sorts of different things. You know,

584
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: we can go down, you know, a rabbit hole of

585
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: all these different chemicals that cannabis has in it that

586
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: aren't yet able to be tested. And so it's not

587
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: like we have this perfect indicator of quality between THHC

588
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: or even cannabinoids and terps. Although that's better, way better

589
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: than just THHC, it's going to go so much further

590
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: in the future, And I only like to highlight that

591
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: because we're able to see how much more we're going

592
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: to ultimately be able to encounter. That shows us what

593
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: we level about cannabis. Would you be surprised to know

594
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: that when we're able to test certain chemicals in cannabis,

595
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, the lineman.

596
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: Umies in the alities identify certain effects.

597
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: For sure, that's great for being able to chase the

598
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: lineage of what cannabis is. And if you were actually

599
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: more interested in multiple you know, you know, as multiple

600
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: types of cannabis, multiple profiles, you'd be able to chase

601
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: down these terps as they go.

602
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 4: You know, you guys were talking.

603
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: About education, and in California, obviously we've been recreational legal

604
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: and I think we've been more liberal when it comes

605
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: to that.

606
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: But when we come back I want to hear what we.

607
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: Were talking about earlier, what your opinion is on what's

608
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: going on in New York and the pattern or you

609
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: know where we follow, are they following the same mistakes

610
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Speaker 3: we did?

611
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 4: So that will be right back here on Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 4: one on one.

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Speaker 3: You guys turned the typical into something special. When it

619
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Speaker 3: comes to infused products, the flavor you taste should be

620
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Speaker 3: back here with Nate and Claudia. The question that I

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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you guys, because this is always on

624
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Speaker 3: my mind and when I see mistakes happen when they're

625
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: in the financial world and at cannabis world, it seems

626
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: there's always parallels when you look at New York and

627
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: obviously they're now coming around to having recreational and medical

628
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Speaker 3: turn into recreational, and we see the expansion, We know

629
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Speaker 3: the issues that California has been having in the legal market.

630
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Speaker 3: You guys had some really interesting viewpoints on how that's

631
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: coming out.

632
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: Over there in part two of that the education.

633
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Do you guys think that over there, because it's newer,

634
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: they're going to have this education.

635
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: Kind of life cycle and learning curve as well. I'll

636
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: open it up to you first.

637
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 6: Personally, I don't think so. I think the potency message is.

638
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 5: Extremely loud, unfortunately, and it's still a loud. It's reached

639
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 5: the East coast and I think they are starting to

640
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: focus on those kind of things as well.

641
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 6: And you know, we met people at mg biscons and it's.

642
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: So crazy because you don't even see a normal pre

643
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: role anymore. Now all the pre roles is going to

644
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: have all this stuff.

645
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: On it more potent.

646
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally. And yeah, we we were at MJ Biscon.

647
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: We met a few people from the East Coast and

648
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: they're like, right, so tell us what do we do

649
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: about our posts? And we're just like no, no, no, wrong,

650
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: question wrong, tell everybody they're doing it wrong. So I

651
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 5: do see that trend starting to happen. And you know,

652
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: if California could scream anything to New York and say, hey,

653
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: like that's how you shoot yourself in the foot, you know,

654
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: in terms of the industry.

655
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Speaker 4: Louder, I don't think they're listening. Yeah literally, Yeah.

656
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Speaker 1: Well that and I feel like New York is just

657
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: in competition with New Jersey.

658
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 9: Can get there, got to bash Jersey, it's thing.

659
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 6: So yeah, I do see them falling in that trend.

660
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Speaker 5: If I remember correctly, their lab requirements still have a

661
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: long way to go as well. And then I think, uh,

662
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: you know, with the most recent that big main dispensary

663
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 5: that just got shut down. I think they're still dealing

664
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: with a lot of the illicit market.

665
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Happy Mokey or something like that.

666
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 6: I forgot the name. You know.

667
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: It's there's so many been a couple, so many names

668
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: in the cannabis industry right now that are just either

669
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: being sued or on the views.

670
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 6: It's just it's hard to keep tracking.

671
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely, there's definitely the real drama behind the

672
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: scenes in the space.

673
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

674
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like it's on soap opera. No, I love it.

675
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: So I can't highlight enough how there are so many

676
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: different awesome types of cannabis. You ever heard of pheno hunting? Yeah, yeah,

677
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: of course, Right, what's the opposite of pheno hunting? Here,

678
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: don't answer, I got it for you. The opposite of

679
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: pheno hunting is buying for high THHC. Because only one

680
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: type of cannabis is you know, really maybe a couple

681
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: of types at best, out of how many dozens of

682
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: potential chemical profiles, there's only certain types that are high

683
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: in THHC. And so this is where things start to

684
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: go wrong. Ten years ago or so, you could walk

685
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: into a dispensary and everything on the shelf was og.

686
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: Like.

687
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I even remember where there were dispensaries that literally sold

688
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: the same og under ten different names, and all ten

689
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: of those names were Avengers characters, right, you know what

690
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you're not even trying any more kind

691
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: of thing, so like either just literally playing into this

692
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: game that really is just absolutely awful for the consumer

693
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: because if you were to go out there and you bought,

694
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: so to speak, a full bar worth of cannabis, then

695
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: what would you be left with And what would be

696
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: really interesting is you'd have, in my opinion, a way

697
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: more a way more robust experience because different chemical profiles

698
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: equal being able to enjoy a lot of different things.

699
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: That means you won't smoke as much as quickly. It's

700
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: kind of like when you're satisfied with food or with

701
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: a spirit of sorts, you end up drinking less or

702
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: eating less when you're satisfied more from less. Right, Cannabis

703
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: works that way if you don't smoke the same effing

704
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: thing over and over and over, hence og over and over,

705
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: which I can tell you from the labs point of view,

706
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: nine out of every ten things we test the exact

707
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: same chemical profile. That's terrible. Because that means that this

708
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: diversity that I can't ask for hard enough to be

709
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: coming from the growers, through the buyers, through the dispensaries,

710
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: that's starting to not exist. And when we talk to

711
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: or when we talk about in a sense New York

712
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: and where I was speaking to them, I would say,

713
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: please improve the diversity. We can all agree that diversity

714
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: of food, diversity of anything enjoyable is awesome, both for

715
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: people who enjoy that industry as well as for that industry.

716
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: And here we are losing out on some of remember

717
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: final hunting, We're losing out on some of the most

718
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: awesome inbuilt things, the diversity of cannabis. And instead we're

719
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: all just growing and buying for a single chemical profile.

720
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: What the why? And that's a mistake that makes the

721
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: amount that you sell go down. That makes everybody compete

722
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: by selling the same thing that drives down the diversity

723
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: for the consumer.

724
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: That's like saying all alcohol it tastes the same because

725
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: of the alcohol.

726
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: That's like saying all alcohol should be ever clear? Yeah, right,

727
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: Like straight up, why don't we all drink ever Clear?

728
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: Guys?

729
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: You want guys want to go out for a round

730
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: of Everclear? Like no, absolutely not. I don't want a headache.

731
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't want a bad experience. But when you smoke

732
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: high THHC low chirp weed, that's actually what you're getting.

733
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: So now we have this tomfoolery of people, you know,

734
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: lying on this quality indicator that's not even a good indicator,

735
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: and as a result, we've lost so many strains. You guys,

736
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: remember Bubba cush. Wouldn't you like some Bubba cush?

737
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: Right now?

738
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: This is about the closest I can find. But you know,

739
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: let's do it.

740
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 4: That's what I love about it, guys.

741
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: You guys are leading from education, and I think right

742
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: now that's what this space is missing, and actually, quite frankly,

743
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: a lot of spaces that are kind of hitting a

744
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: plateau or stagnation, whether it's in the financial markets, the

745
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: consumer education market. But for you guys, you don't see

746
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: enough of that in my opinion, where everybody's just more

747
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: focused on top line gross sales instead of educating the

748
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: market and then watching the success that comes with it.

749
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: With that, we're going to lead into the high five. Now,

750
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: this is a segment that they do on this show

751
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: every time. I've been involved with this as well, So

752
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna ask you five questions. Just hammer out the

753
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: questions that answers real quick. We'll start with you, Claudia.

754
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: How old were you the first time you smoked weed?

755
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: And where did you get it from?

756
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 5: No, we talked about this. I was about fourteen. Mind,

757
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: I didn't really start smoking consistently. T was by egeen

758
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: or nineteen. But the first time I tried I was fourteen.

759
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: My sister was in college and she had come home

760
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: for the weekend and my brother goes through her bag

761
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: and he's like, hey, look I found you know, I

762
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: found her weed and it's like you want to smoke it?

763
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, So what did we do?

764
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 5: I think we like either he's an apple or something

765
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 5: like that. So yeah, that was we stile my sister's

766
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: college weed.

767
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: Nate probably invented his own marijuana.

768
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: And no, my way are we going? Uh yeah, okay, yeah? Perfect? Concurrently,

769
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: I guess so so with my first time, I was

770
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: kidnapped by a friend. He just came by my house

771
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: late at night. I was sixteen, and he's like, come

772
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: on down to you know. His mom had a big

773
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: warehouse for her business and she wasn't using the whole warehouse.

774
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: There's maybe like a ten by ten area where she

775
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: let her son, my friend, set up like his little

776
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: music area, and so him and his buddies would have

777
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: band practice in this commercial district and a warehouse and

778
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: not bother anybody. So good for them, right right, And

779
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: so they kidnapped me, you know, consentually one night, and

780
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: here I am with them, and they bust out this

781
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: clay pipe that one of them had made that resembles

782
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing that you would want to smoke out of,

783
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: and we proceed to just smoke and smoke, and then

784
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: him and his bassis go and jam and I'm standing

785
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: in front of this tall stack of speakers, way taller

786
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: than me because I don't know where they got it from,

787
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: but they're awesome equipment, and I'm just getting audio waves

788
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: rolling through me and full blown audio hallucinations. And it

789
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: was the coolest ship in the world that.

790
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 6: Was low weed to.

791
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's that's the advertisement.

792
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: We So, Claudia, what's go ahead?

793
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, question number two of the High five with Claudia Nate.

794
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: When you're here from Balacuista Labs, what is your favorite

795
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: way to use cannabis?

796
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 6: I like pre rolls.

797
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 5: It just click gets the point and you know, I

798
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: can be multifunctional.

799
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: So you do like the low thh weed it depends.

800
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: I like giggle weed.

801
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: I feel like gig doesn't exist.

802
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 6: Because it's probably low in THHC.

803
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 5: That's why nobody's laughing. I feel like I don't giggle anymore.

804
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I'll have Durban poison is good, but

805
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: it's more of the artsy one, like if you want

806
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 5: to send a drop picture, you know that's it's great.

807
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 6: I love driven poison because it's so focused on you.

808
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 6: You're kind of having fun, which I feel like weed

809
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: isn't fun.

810
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: Like smoke and watching funny movies. Let's just speak out

811
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: on nine hours of Netflix.

812
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: Now, it's just like yeah right, it's just like let's

813
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: get blitzed and just stare at the wall and it's like,

814
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: oh I miss jokes.

815
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Three months ago, I had some flower and I can't

816
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: even remember now who gave it to me, but I

817
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: went home and I smoked it and I was so

818
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: giggly and I was like, oh my god, this is

819
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: a long time.

820
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: I know.

821
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: My favorite was green crack, and you know it's not

822
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: on a very rare occasion he would find a really

823
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: good green crack and I'd be like, yeah, the giggles,

824
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's and you, mister Nate.

825
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: Question number two of the high five, what is your

826
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: favorite way to use cannabis?

827
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: Pre rolls and dabs? So you get a lot of

828
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: flavor with dabs. You know, you're just blessed the especially

829
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: the live ros in industry and some live resident that

830
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: don't give a hoot about th HC numbers put a

831
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: smile and end up getting and so for like live rosins,

832
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: how many more flavor options you end up having? You

833
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: have all the flavor options under the sun because nobody

834
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: cares about high THHC. It's so beautiful.

835
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: But what's great?

836
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: I can't I can't speak to that nothing.

837
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because that takes the education too.

838
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: You know.

839
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: I remember when I first started using my electric dab

840
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: brig and you get the temperature so high because you

841
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: want to get a bigger here, but then you don't

842
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: get to taste the flavors, right, so now I hover

843
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: right around like four sixty.

844
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: No, it's just another culinary experience. Because you could say

845
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: the same thing about, you know, browning your butter at home. Yeah,

846
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: you don't get that shit too hot. So, yeah, you've

847
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: got the idea that you have these Volda compounds, and

848
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: these Volda compounds add all of this flavor and experience

849
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: to what you've got in front of you, because we

850
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: all know that cannabis is very, very experiential, right yep.

851
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: So these The more that you tune the device so

852
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: that you can taste these different flavors, the more diversity

853
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: and richness you get from the experience. I'll wager you

854
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: don't even need to get as high because you need

855
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: to smoke as much, because you're getting so much more

856
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: out of it. The idea of a head change doesn't

857
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: need to be this smack of the the smoky version

858
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: of smacking your head against the table, you know what

859
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: I mean? Right, You can enjoy the shit out of

860
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: weed with people you like, and it's not a race

861
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: to fall asleep the fastest.

862
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And can you tell our viewers what

863
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: do you think is a cleaner way to smoke? Is

864
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: it dabbing or is it smoking flower?

865
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: That's a really really good question, bro so.

866
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: Connor coming with them shots, So let me.

867
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Go for the nerdy answer here. I think that ultimately speaking,

868
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: you're going to have a lot more enjoyability doing dabs.

869
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: And it's not to say that you can't get the

870
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: same in flower. It's to say, as a consumer, you

871
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: almost don't have the option to do that. You don't

872
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: have a dozen different types, different chemical types of good

873
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: flower in front of you that you can smoke when

874
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: they're all fresh, maybe one, maybe two at a time,

875
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: But you don't really get the opportunity to go through

876
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: and actually enjoy this diversity as a consumer with flower,

877
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: even worse with pre role. Such a good question, brother,

878
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: even words with pre roles, because pre rolls, as soon

879
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: as you break them down you know, into the shape,

880
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: you know, into their ground form that you need to

881
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: be able to smoke them in, they start oxidizing. They

882
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: start breaking down really quick. It's crazy when we study

883
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: pre rolls that are even six months old, and you

884
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: know how THHC as it breaks down, it can decarboxylate.

885
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: About half of the cannabis in the joint is decarboxylated.

886
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: If even if it hadn't been broken down in flower form,

887
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean it wouldn't be great, but it wouldn't have

888
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: been half activated into THHC. It's just a good idea.

889
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: Thisbelated me decarboxylated.

890
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: That's another tangle. Let me finish this.

891
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: You'll be surprised. It's the simplest thing in the world.

892
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: So what you end up getting, and to answer the

893
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: second part of the gentleman's question, or in the second

894
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: part of this answer, what we've got is the opportunity

895
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: with dabs to have things that have been well preserved

896
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: once you make an extraction. Depending on the form, but

897
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: for the most part, if you have in the right

898
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: temperature preservation and light preservation conditions as low temperature for

899
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: the most part as possible and as little light as possible,

900
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: you're going to see a minimal, minimal amount of breakdown. Hence,

901
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: you have access to a fresh, pure version of cannabis

902
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: where you can have your smorgas board and you can

903
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: enjoy all of these different variations of candable.

904
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: Which is why you keep your concentrates in the cooler.

905
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: It's just why you keep your concentration. The more you know,

906
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: so this is this is the answer, and that's why,

907
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: and that's you know, if anything, that's the benefit of concentrates,

908
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: it's not that it's better than flour. It's just better. Well,

909
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: let me put it this way. If you bought some

910
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: concentrate and you put it in your fridge for a year,

911
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: and you came back to it after your odds are

912
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: if you had not opened it, that it'd be about

913
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: the same product. If you bought a vanilla bean for

914
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: about and you put it in a refrigerator and would

915
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: just imagine this a year later, that vanilla bean is

916
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: going to be pretty desiccated. It's not the same vanilla bean.

917
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: But you know what you have at home. If you

918
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: had never cannabis, you'd still have vanilla extract. Guess how

919
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: many years that vanilla extract will last still in the vanilla.

920
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: So what do you have here? The extracted form is

921
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: capable of lasting a lot longer and imparting those same

922
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: flavors for the experience that you're looking for. So I

923
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: couldn't We went nerdy, So I couldn't put the love

924
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: of cannabis into into a tighter way of putting it.

925
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: No, I love the answer.

926
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 4: You know this one. Our question number four is usual.

927
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Question number three question didn't.

928
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Decarboxylation. Okay, so decarboxylation. If you ever want to repeat this,

929
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, mini lecture called decarbon Everyone will know what

930
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: you mean. So cannabis on the plant for the most part,

931
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 2: you know, when you have a nug of cannabis right

932
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: or when it's in the joint but not yet smoked,

933
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: it's a form of cannabis or THHC rather called THHC

934
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: A THHC A or is the main cannabinoid. But there's

935
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: others out there, a form. It's in the thank you,

936
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: thank you, right from my from my books, man, I

937
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And in the I taught this man everything,

938
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: you know.

939
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: So he was excited. You guys are coming into that

940
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: speaking his language.

941
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: So you know, we can say the same about cbd

942
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: A and cbc a and so on and so on.

943
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: But as the primary cannabinoid that you're feeling, THHC is

944
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: available in this raw form, this acidic form called th

945
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: HC A. When you affect it with energy, but most

946
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: of the time that means lighted on fire. You basically

947
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: run through this chemical conversion or not conversion. You run

948
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: through a chemical process where a carboxyl molecule is released

949
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: from this THC A molecule and it's now decarboxylated.

950
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: Good God, which is why he's saying the pre rules

951
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: as they sit there. It doesn't have to be the

952
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: heat of a fire, the heat of just.

953
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: You know, the energy from the room.

954
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that is enough to force d car box

955
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: on a form of cannabis when it's that further broken,

956
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: when it's that far broken down. So really what we're

957
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: looking at is a form of cannabis broken down. Now,

958
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: this is a this is a functional thing if you're

959
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: in if you're in effect of it so or if

960
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: you're in control, because what's in this joint is THHCA,

961
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: but what's in the smoke is delta nine THHC. Delta

962
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: nine THHC is what gets you high. So you want

963
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: delta nine. When something's being made into an edible form,

964
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: they messed up if they didn't decarboxylate it first and

965
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: put it into that decarboxylated form. And you're edible, right

966
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: because it's not like it's going to catch on fire

967
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: in your body or be that exposed to where you

968
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: get the full realm of effects from deltia nine. So

969
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: delta nine gets you high. THHCA grows on the plant,

970
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: and what differentiates them is decarboxylation.

971
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: And that's where they get around a lot of the

972
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: laws with the regulations and how you can send you know,

973
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: these products that have thhc A because they're not they're

974
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: not violating the laws. There are a lot of people are

975
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: using the THHCA to get around the different.

976
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: I guarantee that's going to be a Jeopardy question one

977
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: day and somebody listening to this is all right.

978
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Number three the number Question number three is what is

979
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: your gochu munchie? No, no, excuse me. Question number two

980
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: is the craziest place you've ever used or consumed cannabis.

981
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: It's been like twenty years, but we also talked about this.

982
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: You don't age you remember, Oh yeah, but I don't

983
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: like it, so they won't believe me. I would say

984
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: like more than like fun places have been all the

985
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: fun places we've smoked. But I would say probably in

986
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: San Diego, we went to like the Maritime Museum and

987
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: they have all those boats and stuff right there, and

988
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: we totally snuck on.

989
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 6: I think it's the submarine right on like the side

990
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: or something.

991
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: I remember us smoking on the flagship of California, like

992
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: the tall Mass flagship.

993
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like one of like there boats us

994
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: like going all over the world and stuff like that.

995
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: It's like the boat for California and like you totally

996
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: smoked it on it.

997
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah they yeah, that was that was memorable trip right there.

998
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: We uh and ironically unmemorable at the same time.

999
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 5: And then the other funny one was we got caught

1000
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 5: on Mark Twain's Island at Disneyland.

1001
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: How many times I heard that? Answered everybody? Somehow I've

1002
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 4: done that such a good idea.

1003
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, it's Disney a joint, a little joint.

1004
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 6: It was going to blow your cover. But let's just

1005
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 6: say he doesn't learn.

1006
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: It.

1007
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: And I thought it all the time, like if you

1008
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: get my Disney pass taken away, I don't know you.

1009
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: Now, question number four understand figured it's going to be Disney.

1010
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: It's accurate, and I'm happy to have to have let

1011
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: that answer stay there. Fortunately it was me who was

1012
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: present for both of us, so I'm going to stick

1013
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: with those.

1014
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: Good question before.

1015
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: The reason I'm excited for that one is I'm working

1016
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: on my summer body. I'm up to a six pack.

1017
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: Actually it's a one pack right now. But the munchies

1018
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: is a serious situation. For me, the question is what's

1019
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: your favorite? But I want to ask the science guy,

1020
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: is there a cure for the munchies? And if not,

1021
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: why doesn't somebody make one because they'd be a billionaire.

1022
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: Or is there a string that will be less unchiness?

1023
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: High thhc. The higher the THHC, the more that it's

1024
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: going to stimulate the receptor that's attached to munchies. So

1025
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: why do we get munchies? Because there's this thing called

1026
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: the endocannabinoid system in our body. There's a receptor called

1027
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: CB one that THHC has a high binding affinity to,

1028
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: and by binding to that receptor, any cannabinoid, any even

1029
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: the ones produced naturally with our body, are going to

1030
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: confer in effect where it increases your appetite.

1031
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: Now there's hangover pills. Is there no pill that I

1032
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: can take to get rid of the munchies?

1033
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: There? Once upon a time there was a type of

1034
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: product called rimonaban a long time ago. It was a

1035
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: CB one in verse agonist, which is a fancy way

1036
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: of saying that it shut down your CB one receptor.

1037
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: It was a diet drug, and that was that the surmise.

1038
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: Get it, no, no, no hold up. So that was

1039
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: Their conclusion was by shutting off this trigger that causes

1040
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: you know, munchies so to speak, that causes an appetite,

1041
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: that they would be able to create a product that

1042
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: controlled your appetite through this otherwise generally undiscovered you know,

1043
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: unattempted means pathway. And so this this chemical called ramonabant.

1044
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember all of the things in terms of

1045
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 2: the side effects. It did help you lose weight because

1046
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: it did shut.

1047
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 4: Off all of a sudden getting hard.

1048
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: Increase, the risk of falling down increased, not nausea in

1049
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: a suicide ideation, boy, dry mouthes. They essentially so what

1050
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good idea if anybody ever needs,

1051
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, some time to take a quick moment and

1052
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: appreciate this chemical system in their bodies. You know, it's

1053
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: like your hormone system, but it's your endocannabinoid system. It's

1054
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: the reason why our bodies have a relationship with cannabis

1055
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: in the first place. It's through shutting down that system

1056
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: you can basically help create that nightmare scenario. This is

1057
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: even suggesting that your body's own ability to regulate itself

1058
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: from those things goes away without cannabis.

1059
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Yes, like you have you know, a digestive system, know

1060
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: a respiratory system, You've got your indocannabinoid system.

1061
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: Which and I've asked that question several people, but no

1062
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: one's actually answered in that way.

1063
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: So I do appreciate that. So I did hijack the question.

1064
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your go too munch after you get high?

1065
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 5: Well, I like to mindlessly eat, So I go to

1066
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: cherries because cherries is something I can just like you know,

1067
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 5: not destroy my body with and just kind of mindlessly eat.

1068
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: So I try to stick with fruit like grapes, cherries,

1069
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 5: things I can just because I'm working at the same time,

1070
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 5: you know so. And then cheese and crackers. I literally

1071
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 5: could just live off cheese and crackers.

1072
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Is there any type of specific cheese sharp cheddar? And you,

1073
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: mister Nate, go too much out of sugar.

1074
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: I've got a sweet tooth, so I've got a sugar addiction.

1075
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't realize that something like you know, I

1076
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: don't realize that something's wrong with me until either she

1077
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: says something or it's my fourth dessert And I'm like,

1078
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: Nate too much like.

1079
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: Which which dessert specifically?

1080
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: Though?

1081
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Are you like more chocolate too?

1082
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: If we have ice cream, I'll go for that almost

1083
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: every time.

1084
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: Is it a vanilla Rocky road?

1085
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: The more just complicated, the better. I guess how much

1086
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: peanut butter and how much I felt like he was

1087
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: gonna go down the peanut butter. So, I mean, if

1088
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: anybody else here has a sweet tooth, So let's create

1089
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: this baseline of like vanilla sweet cream. I'm gonna add

1090
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: chocolate chips, still going, I'm gonna add some caramel, still

1091
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: all right? Some peanut butter?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? How much more before you ask me to stop?

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Speaker 2: That's where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Nice question number five of the high five. If you

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Speaker 1: could smoke cannabis with anybody dead or lie, who would

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Speaker 1: it be?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 6: My top two picks are still alive.

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Speaker 5: One would be doctor Dry the other one would be

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Speaker 5: Dave Girl all right, because I think he's a great

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00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: human being and I'd like to pick his brain on

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Speaker 5: how to be a greater human being.

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Speaker 1: I like, I was just gonna ask why, and you

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00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: Nate Carl Sagan, which that's probably dating me because how

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00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: many fucking people know who Carl Sagan.

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00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Is these days? But homeboy was this amazing blend of

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00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: philosophy and of philosophy and science. And I was a

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Speaker 2: fan of weed too, So you know what else could

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Speaker 2: you ask for in a session?

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Speaker 4: Now I know you guys, I mean fans, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean my wife. I was a good catch.

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Speaker 4: My husband too.

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Speaker 1: But you guys do smoke together every day, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I think one of the funny things when we

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Speaker 6: were dating.

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Speaker 5: I think he told me that he told a buddy

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Speaker 5: about his days and girl, and the buddy made some

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Speaker 5: jokes like, oh, so now you're buying weed for two

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Speaker 5: and he's like, no, she always has her own weed.

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Speaker 4: That's a good girl.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And on that quick note, I can't even imagine dating,

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Speaker 2: being married to anything with your life's partner without the

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Speaker 2: two of you smoking weed that has quelled so many

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Speaker 2: arguments and giving us both that dual perspective that I mean,

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Speaker 2: especially me coming from this this agent right here by

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Speaker 2: all means I can credit parts.

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Speaker 3: Of It's very rare that you see husband and wife

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Speaker 3: that are I work, live together, party together, and together.

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Speaker 5: And you guys made it work, So you are not

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Speaker 5: surprised how many people have such Oh my god, you're

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Speaker 5: still together.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about parenting. I feel like

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Speaker 1: the best parenting is you can smoke cannabis together and

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you can be able to find

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00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: those common grounds and then not be as angry at

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Speaker 1: what the kid did or who.

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Speaker 6: Smoke and build legos man.

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Speaker 1: Someone who step on the legos.

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Speaker 3: So if somebody who wants to hear more, obviously you

1144
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Speaker 3: guys are passionate about educating everybody. How can they find

1145
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Speaker 3: you on socials or how can they get a hold

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Speaker 3: of you?

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Speaker 5: Well, me, I'm starting my solo career and I'm working

1148
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 5: on it. I'm actually I'm pretty comfortable here because I've

1149
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 5: known you forever and but normally I'm like, oh my god,

1150
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: camera running high. But I'm pushing myself. So my Instagram

1151
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: is Missus Cannilore and missus and then c A N

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Speaker 5: N A L l.

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Speaker 6: U are excellent. Surprised they did that?

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00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, Missus Cannelore and I kind of want

1155
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 5: to take this approach to approaches where you know, I

1156
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 5: have a lot of girlfriends they smoke weed, but they

1157
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 5: have no idea what's going on in this industry. And

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00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 5: I have a lot of cana wife friends who you know,

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 5: when you're married into cannabis.

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Speaker 6: It's just like it's a whole different beast, you know.

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00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 5: We we can laugh about the same things about you know,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, when they're on their phone and they're just

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00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: pacing back and forth for forty five.

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00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 6: Minutes, you know, stuff like that. So and I want

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00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 6: to also.

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00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 5: Bring in some of my frustrations in the industry and

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00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 5: you know, kind of express what those are and and

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00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: just educate the community, you know, kind of reaching out

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Speaker 5: to some of ladies out there, because I think if

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Speaker 5: I feel I'm talking to my friends, it's going to

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Speaker 5: be easier to just say what's on my mind.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, missus Kenda.

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Speaker 1: Law the Real Housewives of Cannabis.

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Speaker 5: We're not that dramatic. We would just be like, hey, man,

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Speaker 5: are we fighting? Let's go pour some prosecco.

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Speaker 4: What about you? Nate?

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Speaker 2: Mine is Candi centric? Well, first plug the lab Bell

1178
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Speaker 2: Coastal Labs, you know, and that's the instagram. I'm CANi centric,

1179
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: like a portmanteau of eccentric and cannabis, right, but right,

1180
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: Candi centric. That's how to find me. That's all about

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Speaker 2: the education kind of side of things too, and being

1182
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Speaker 2: able to now pursue what I feel is going to

1183
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: be the best way to talk to you know, the

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Speaker 2: many hopeful fans of cannabis now and in the future,

1185
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: and all of the people in terms of what they're getting,

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Speaker 2: what they're smoking, what they're missing, all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: I got one more question for you too before you

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Speaker 1: late guys get out of here. So, if I'm just

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Speaker 1: a consumer and I want to bring my product, so

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Speaker 1: do you guys as well? Like just random tests for

1191
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: the wars, they just have to be through metrics.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be by metric. If you as

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00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: that every man want to bring part of your backyard

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Speaker 2: grow into us and see if you know you inadvertently

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Speaker 2: contaminated with heavy metals or pesticides or trust.

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Speaker 3: Me, just marijuana or MDMA and other substances as well cannabis.

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Speaker 2: We specialized on cannabis, not much said. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: hasn't stopped people from bringing us an avocado from the yard.

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Speaker 4: And say, do you guys test this?

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Speaker 2: So we're a cannabis specialized set well.

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Speaker 5: And one thing he has worked with a couple of

1202
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: people is I'm like, recently a lady's dog got sick

1203
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Speaker 5: because they like did a pesticide outside of our house

1204
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Speaker 5: or something like that. So I know, like we've tested

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00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 5: soil and stuff for people who like their animals have

1206
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 5: gotten sick or their kids have gotten sick and they're

1207
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: taking it to court or something like that, and they

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Speaker 5: want to know more and have.

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Speaker 6: The data so it can get creative.

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Speaker 5: But more in that avenue where you know, we're primarily

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Speaker 5: looking for helping people find like contaminations that my favor

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Speaker 5: property and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's a big kind of future ology, if you will,

1214
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: aspect of cannabis and cannabis testing. If I take another

1215
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: minute or two to to tell you guys about it,

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Speaker 2: it's root cause analysis because as a lab, you know,

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Speaker 2: what we do is test things. What if you fail,

1218
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: what do you do? Did the heavy metals come from

1219
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: your soil? Did they come from your water? Where did

1220
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: they come from? Was it pesticides? Where in your facility

1221
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: these pesticides come? And how did it make it make

1222
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: its way over to you? Oftentimes I can figure that out,

1223
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: usually able to figure out based on what kind of

1224
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: contaminant I see and what type of likely areas it

1225
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: came from, nested within a pretty vast at this point,

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Speaker 2: two dozen years in this you know at twenty twenty three,

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00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 2: two dozen years in cannabis, and I'm able to see

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00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: oftentimes between taking swabs and looking at things that are microscopic,

1229
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: right and basically being able to kind of create this

1230
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: logical puzzle of what I saw, where it comes from,

1231
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: and how it works, and I'm able to tell what happens.

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00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: I've got a really good track record for what exists

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: in other industries, but root cause analysis for cannabis, I

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: think that at this point we can say we fathered

1235
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Speaker 2: that movement and it's a big one.

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Speaker 1: Nice that's a big separator between you guys and other

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: labs out there, as you guys will actually do that

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00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: root cause analysis or saying yeah.

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: He does SI inspections. I think we've coined the term

1240
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: ask for jillous whisperer.

1241
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: Ask for jillous? Is that harmful mold? That that that's

1242
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: just death for a batch up there? No one wants

1243
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: to see that.

1244
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Well, you guys, I could personally talk to you guys

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: all day and I read a science Questions. I think

1246
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Speaker 3: we're going to definitely have you guys back. On that note,

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to thank you guys sincerely. You guys kind

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00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: of you probably don't notice what you pop my CQ

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Speaker 3: one O one Cherry. I have the show on Financial Fridays,

1250
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: but this is the first time that I've got to

1251
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: co host this with Chris, and you know, it's a

1252
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: little bit rough at the beginning, but I think by

1253
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: the end of it it worked out good. Thanks thank

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Speaker 3: you to the entire staff that kind of put up

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Speaker 3: with us today too. So it's all last minute me

1256
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Speaker 3: popping in. But I love having guys on here.

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Speaker 4: You want to pose that out busy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys for coming so much. Anybody house

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Speaker 1: wants to check them out. Check them out out. Boucoslabs

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the website and then the instagram is autpol

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Speaker 5: Coastal Labs.

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Speaker 2: Z o STA.

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Speaker 1: Remember this, guys. If nobody else loves you, we do.

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