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Speaker 1: I want my brother to pay for my thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: Am I the able?

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Speaker 2: You know? Just because you're poor, that's not my problem.

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Speaker 2: Why why do you get me things?

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Speaker 1: Why will you get rich?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just invest in penny stocks? Oh, slip

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Speaker 1: it for one thousand percent? Wow, turn ten dollars, yes,

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Speaker 1: into ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: You know that. That's actually a great But you sound

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Speaker 2: like Warren Buffett a little bit over here.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I like to think of myself as a buff daddy.

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Speaker 2: You know, Oh, I think you are a buff daddy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, financially buff and slowly.

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Speaker 2: Buff Vagina's stomach into building.

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Speaker 1: I also did a family dinner over the weekend. My

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Speaker 1: brother brought my nephews four and eight over as well.

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Speaker 1: I used to wear my engagement ring all the time,

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Speaker 1: but lately I keep it in my walking closet and

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Speaker 1: mainly wear it for special occasions. While I was cleaning

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Speaker 1: up the dinner table, my nephews went to go play

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Speaker 1: while the adults were still in the outdoor patio slash

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Speaker 1: outdoor kitchen area. My brother was not supervising his kids

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Speaker 1: during this time, my nephews went into the master bedroom

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Speaker 1: without anyone knowing and started playing with everything. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: including my engagement ring.

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Speaker 2: Oh god.

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Speaker 1: When we came to look for them, they panic because

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Speaker 1: they know they aren't supposed to be upstairs, ran into

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Speaker 1: the master bathroom and flushed my ring.

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Speaker 2: Bro No, I am sorry, but even as a child,

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Speaker 2: how do you have that reaction?

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Speaker 1: Flush the engagement ring?

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Speaker 2: I could understand, put it under a pillow, put it

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Speaker 2: under a bed, but flush the ring down the toilet.

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Speaker 2: We called a.

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Speaker 1: Plumber in case it was somehow in the u trap

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Speaker 1: of the toilet and was not actually gone. But no,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately it was gone for good. We still had the

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Speaker 1: original receipts, so I called my brother. I emailed him

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Speaker 1: a scan copy as proof of the cost and asked

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Speaker 1: him to reimburse me for the ring. My nephew flushed immediately.

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Speaker 1: He started calling me an asshole because we were family

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Speaker 1: and he was just a child. He has refused to

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Speaker 1: repay the cost of the ring. Okay, well all right

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Speaker 1: or pause right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, what would you do? You know?

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm over here, we're courting, and your cat comes

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Speaker 1: takes my my thirty thousand dollars engagement ring. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I like that one. Like, what would you do if,

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Speaker 1: like you're whatever, you're responsible did it? I think sit

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Speaker 1: at bare minimum some sort of plan where you're like

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Speaker 1: putting in an effort, like here's the money I can do,

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Speaker 1: Here's what I could put down. Yeah, I don't know, bro,

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Speaker 1: I think you're responsible at least two a degree at

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Speaker 1: a bar at the bear should show that you're you're

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Speaker 1: trying to make right exactly. Ideally, I shouldn't have to ask, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if they should cat stole my my engagement ring, Like,

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Speaker 1: ideally I shouldn't have to say like, hey, like can

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Speaker 1: you help help me out? You know, make this right?

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Speaker 2: That person should approach and be like, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: Like luckily I don't have any thirty thousand engagement flying around,

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Speaker 1: But this is the end of the story. I told

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Speaker 1: And now my entire family is blowing up my phone

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Speaker 1: saying family shouldn't suit each other and just let it go,

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Speaker 1: which I kind of agree with. Yeah, but it is

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Speaker 2: Edit.

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Speaker 1: No, the ring was not insured. I found out the

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Speaker 1: day after my nephew flushed it. My husband says he

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: My brother says he does not have the money to

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Speaker 1: any kind of repayment plan. He said, I live in

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Speaker 1: I should just sell my car. That's crazy, dog, that's

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Speaker 1: crazy that he's not even like trying, not at all.

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Speaker 1: He give you one hundred dollars a month, dude, come on,

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Speaker 1: like one hundred bucks a month? Like, come on, bro.

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Speaker 1: My brother to this day has not truly apologized. This

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Speaker 1: He said kids will do what normal kids do, and

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't be held responsible for a ring. Yes, I agree,

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't be held responsible for the ring, but you

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Speaker 2: Oh imagine, He's like, your nine year old will work?

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Speaker 1: Are the rest of his life really pays off this ring.

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Speaker 1: They were supposed to supervise their kids outdoors with the

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Speaker 1: I mean it was their job to supervise and it

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Speaker 1: on now, edit for I don't believe for a second

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Speaker 1: my brother and his wife cannot pay for the cost

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Speaker 1: but they do have a combined income of around two

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Speaker 1: at three point five million in Toronto back when I

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Speaker 1: bought my parents a new home years ago. There's no

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Speaker 1: mortgage on the home my brother lives in. The only

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Speaker 1: thing is my brother and his wife would pay for

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Speaker 1: I feel so distraught because my ring holds great sentimental value.

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Speaker 1: I've already been speaking with my husband's family lawyer, but

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Speaker 1: at this point I'm ready to hire a private investigator

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Speaker 1: to find out if they really don't have the money.

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Speaker 1: Oh indeep, so fun. I want to know what everyone

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Speaker 1: like your ring or a thirty thousand dollars like equivalent

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Speaker 1: and your family wasn't paying up. But John let me know,

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Speaker 1: what's your decision? Is op the A hole is the

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Speaker 2: Brother's definitely the A hole? You know what I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: about it on op Op's not the A hole. But

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Speaker 2: I think it sounds like like Opie said, like what like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they don't make as much as my husband makes and

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Speaker 2: they make two fifty k year, So I mean there's

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Speaker 2: a I think there's a certain monetary level where it's

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Speaker 2: just like you know what I mean, it's like, don't

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Speaker 2: let it destroy the relationship.

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Speaker 1: If you're making way more than two hundred and fifty k,

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Speaker 1: for your parents, you're like doing pretty well. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: is it? I think what OPI's more mad about is

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Speaker 1: the brother's not even trying to make it right, which

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Speaker 1: the brother's like worried about just having to pay this,

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Speaker 2: He refused one hundred dollars a month and also simple

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Speaker 2: a solution ever mortgage thirty k off of the three

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Speaker 2: point five million dollar house. Nothing, that's nothing they could

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Speaker 1: I definitely think the brother is the a hole. Op.

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Speaker 1: I understand if she wants the principal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an investigator. Is a little wild, but.

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Speaker 1: Well, let us know what you would do and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Today I fed up by being intimate

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Speaker 1: with another girl at a swinger's party.

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Speaker 2: I could see how some issues could arise.

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Speaker 1: Yees, especially if you aren't ready to be swung. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes it takes a little swing before you swung.

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Speaker 2: You on, every swing is meant to be swung.

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Speaker 1: No, that is true. Set the scene.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: My partner of two years and I attend a sex

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Speaker 1: club together. This is the second time we have both

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Speaker 2: Going to a place doesn't sound like a rule. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think they agree to go to this place. Oh right, right,

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Speaker 2: together they agree we're going to the sex club. At

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the purge, but for for sexual sexual.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like it was like a new movie The Purge,

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Speaker 1: That sounds worse. That sounds like it would get canceled

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: What country is this? I'm asking for a friend.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have heard that they are in

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Speaker 1: So one of my friends, who will remain nameless, is

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Speaker 1: like Eagle something and it was it was like a club,

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Speaker 1: but like everyone was just fucking. It was a gay

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Speaker 1: it's also there for straight people, but for.

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Speaker 1: Don't think it's allowed. I think it just happens I

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's like an underground thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more it's more like, you know, you go

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Speaker 2: Oh, is that what they do with these these clubs.

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Speaker 1: At the club that I'm specifically referring to, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're just like covering their bases. Yeah, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: Then you just do exactly so it's more like a

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty slim pickings, I might add, because the guys

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Speaker 1: back to someone's house and party on. Okay, one girl

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Speaker 1: in particular, who I kissed earlier, fancies me and comes

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Speaker 1: back to my friend's house without her husband. Her husband

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Speaker 1: it turns out, has cracked the sad ones and wants

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Speaker 1: being like I'm sad and pat cracked.

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Speaker 1: For reasons I do not know. My partner and I

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Speaker 1: to the friend's house and after many drinks and other substances,

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Speaker 1: Yeah Jesus, that is you know when you have this

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Speaker 2: Also, the type of people that would go to the club,

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Speaker 2: So it could just the numbers game adds up so quick.

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Speaker 2: I know, a giant in a giant orgy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the craziest. I've never been to

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Speaker 1: Good god, Yeah, I love how four am this is

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Speaker 1: I might add that I find it difficult to get

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Speaker 2: I am so confused.

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Speaker 1: See, I need to know what those things are, Like

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Speaker 2: I need to know those things. But also it's like

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, those are the rules. So it sounds like

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Speaker 1: Well, well, if if we want to get lawyer on

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Speaker 2: Being there and going to the club together.

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Speaker 1: They moved from the club to another location.

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Speaker 2: Oh lawyered, dude, you luyer the fun out of your laird.

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Speaker 2: Nice one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the rules are broken. As soon as

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Speaker 2: So the idea is I'm just like trying to grasp it.

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Speaker 2: The idea is basically maybe if you go to like

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Speaker 2: like almost like dancing, like dancing sex. It's like very

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Speaker 1: Get more into more intimate. I don't you know you

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Speaker 1: do you do Malia Coachella? You know, not at your

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Speaker 1: cousin's barmitza.

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Speaker 2: Right Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I mean I still don't follow.

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Speaker 1: They doesn't make any sense, but.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense to me. Yeah wow, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: it sounds like they just need to sit down and

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Speaker 2: like you should that we should find so I can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the damn like open relationships are hard, dude.

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Speaker 2: That's that's crazy. That's insane. I mean, you know, do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like relationships are hard enough. You know,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah I don't. Yeah, it's it's too much for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure people have reached places in their relationships where

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Speaker 2: It's hard to wrap my mind around. Yeah, that that

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Speaker 2: improves a relationship, especially this orgy situation is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Does that improve a relationship? I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Again, I'm sure somebody in the world like their situation,

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Speaker 2: But it's just that I'm just on the like the

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Speaker 2: massive orgy thing like that's crazy, like a huge, a

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Speaker 1: It happens, though I've never been a part of it,

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