1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode thirty of Hurdle, a podcast that talks 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: to everyone from top CEOs to entrepreneurs about how they 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: got through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: My name's Emily A. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Badi, and today I'm chatting with Olympian Colleen Quickly, a 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Nike pro runner with the Bowerman Track Club and all 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: around rock star. I literally landed yesterday back in New 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: York City from recording this with her over the weekend 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: in Portland, where I joined my friends at Nike to 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: check out the Nike Cross Nationals, which is the high 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: school championships for cross country. I've got to admit it 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: was surprisingly emotional for me to see all of the 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: camaraderie and the bravery and the dedication of these high schoolers. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: It was really special. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Before we get in today's episode, shout out to the 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: sponsor Athletic Greens, complete with twelve servings of fruits and vegetables. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Having the green Spider first thing in the morning, before 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: I head out the door makes me feel like a 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: better me. They're offering a special deal for hurdlesteners. It's 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: twenty free travel packs valued at ninety nine dollars with 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: your first purchase. Just head on over to athleticgreens dot 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: com slash hurdle to claim it. No code necessary. Again, 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: that's athleticgreens dot com slash hurdle. Now let's talk about Colleen. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: The first thing to throw out there is at this 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: twenty six year old definitely didn't grow up dreaming of 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: going to the Olympics to compete in the steeplechase. 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: And if you've never heard of. 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: The steeplechase before, well you're certainly not alone. It's essentially 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: a three thousand meter obstacle race and each lap of 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: the track has four barriers or hurdles and a water pit. 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: After joining the track team her freshman year of high 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: school and finding her fast the scene, Louis native realized 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: she really had a knack for this running thing. She 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: landed herself a scholarship to run at Florida State University, 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: and despite being mega successful, she still was hesitant to 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: turn pro. But soon enough she was relocating to Oregon 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: to run as a Nike sponsored athlete with the Bowerman 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Track Club, gearing up for the twenty sixteen Summer Games. 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: That's when injury struck quickly dealt with a major hurdle moment, 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a nasty hamstring situation that almost derailed her from hitting 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: the track in Rio. In today's episode, I sit down 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: with a self proclaimed Barrlman Babe to chat her ever 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: evolving dreams, a brief stint in modeling, and how it 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: feels to be a role model for young athletes around 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: the world. As always, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all the things 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: at Hurdle Podcast. Keep on tagging me with those Instagram stories. 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: I love reposting them from the Hurdle feed and shoot 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: me an email with a hurdle moment of your own, 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: or just to say hi emilyat hurdle dot Us. 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: I think that's it and with that, let's get to hurdling. 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Today. 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with the lovely Colleen Quiggly. She is 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: a professional track athlete, a steeple chaser. 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: Can you talk to me about what steeple chasing is 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: for the unknowing, for sure, it's one of my favorite 56 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: things to explain to people who don't know what it 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: is because it sounds legit crazy. Basically, we're on a track. 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: So a track is four hunderimeters around. That's four laps 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: to a mile, and we are doing seven and a 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: half laps, so just short of two miles. But every 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: lap you are jumping over these big wooden barriers. They're like, 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: they look more like horse barriers than regular sprinter hurdles, 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: and those suckers are not going anywhere, so if you 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: hit one of them, you're going down, not the barrier, 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: and you got four of those on every lap, as 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: well as a water pit that is placed just behind 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: one of these barriers. So you step up on the 68 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: barrier and you leap over the water, hopefully only getting 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: one foot wet in the water, and then your next 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: foot should be dry. So you do that seven times, 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: so you have twenty eight hurdles and seven water jumps 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: throughout just short of two mile race. It's three thousand meters. 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: You're hurdling already and we just started. This feels awesome. Yeah, 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I mean, do you wake up one 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: day and you're like, man, you know what my event 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: is gonna be. It's gonna be the steeple chase. 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of weird. I mean, I didn't do in 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: high school. My older brother actually also was a runner, 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: and he ran the steeplechase in college, so I did 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: kind of have an idea of what the event was, 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: but I also just thought it was crazy and I 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: never imagined myself doing it. So my coach in college 83 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: saw me run for the first time in a cross 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: country race, no hurdles. I'd never hurdled before, and she 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: was like, I think he'd be a good steeple chaser, 86 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: and I was just kind of like whatever, lady, Like, 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: you give me a full ride to go be coached 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: by you, So yeah, I'll go. 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Where were you at college? 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: I went to Florida State for four years. 91 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So I feel like we need a little background. 92 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: We're sitting here at Nike headquarters in Portland, which is 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: an outrageous experience in a sound booth. We I feel 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: like we've been given the golden treatment. So we're very lucky. 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: And this weekend is the Nike Cross Nationals. It's also 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: fast Braid Friday. It is okay, of course, Well, my listeners, 97 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: my listeners don't know about fast Braide Friday, So why 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: don't you cool them out? 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: Let me tell them with a snap Fast brad Friday. 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: It happens every Friday. I've been doing it for about 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: a year now, I think over a year. It's just 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: the silly, kind of silly but kind of serious thing 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: that I accidentally created with my followers on Instagram. I 104 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: posted this photo on a Friday with myself and a 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: French braid, saying, you know, just goofy is hashtag French 106 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: braid Friday because that's how it started. Is French Braid 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: Friday a thing? Because it should definitely be a thing, 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: and it just like silly and I all of a sudden, 109 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: I got all these messages from other girls being like yeah, totally, 110 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: and they send me pictures of them selves and braids 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: and like saying, you know, hashtag French braid Friday. And 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: I was like whoa, Like okay, people like it. So 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: I did it again. And then you know, a few 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: weeks went by, I wouldn't do it, and I did 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: it again. I keep keep getting all these photos and 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: it was getting, you know, traction. And besides the photos, 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: I was also getting stories of yeah, you know, I 118 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: braided my hair like you did. And I saw your 119 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: photo and braided my hair like you, and it made 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: me feel so good. I went out and crushed my 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: workout after at practice today, and I was like, WHOA, Like, 122 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: that's actually, you know, that's actually really cool and like 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: kind of special. And so it kind of grew and grew, 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: and that idea of doing something to your hair that 125 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: makes you feel confident, it makes you feel like a 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: bad ass, makes you feel fast, makes you feel like 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: you can get on the start line for a race 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: or a workout and be like I got this, and 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: that's you know, it starts with something that's kind of 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 3: superficial and kind of silly. It is just your hair, 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: but maybe that's what you need to just feel a 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: little more powerful. And so it became more of a 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: serious thing as the weeks went by, and we ended 134 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: up changing the name the hashtag from French Braid Friday 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: to fast Braid Friday, just to incorporate or to be 136 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: more welcoming of all different types of braids or eether 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: their corn rows or Dutch braids or French braids or 138 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and to to kind of get more 139 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: to the idea that it's all about feeling fast. So 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: no matter what type of braid, it makes you feel fast, 141 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: then you know you're doing the right thing. 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's a fun way to connect with 143 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: your a fun way to connect with your audience, and 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: your audience is pretty big. 145 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: It's growing. I would say, it's really fun to hear 146 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: the stories. I would say the best part of is 147 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: not just like seeing the styles, but seeing or hearing 148 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: what they did. I put in this braid and I 149 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: went and you know, I won the state meet, or 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: I set a personal personal best, or my team, you know, 151 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: qualified for nationals. We're going to Nixon and we all 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: were braids together and it made us feel like a team. 153 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: And you know that is like, seems like a really 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: powerful message to me. 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: So right now, you're a Nike sponsored athlete for the 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: Bauerman Track Club. You are inspiring young girls around the world, 157 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen thousand of which follow you on 158 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: social media. But you didn't even start running until you 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: were a freshman in high school. So why do you 160 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: give me a little bit about your backstory. You grew 161 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: up in Saint Louis, that's right, yep. I went to 162 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: an all girls Catholic high school. Saint Louis is known 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: for their all boys and all girls schools, So it 164 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: might seem weird to a lot of people, but it's normal. 165 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: If you're from Saint Louis, And yeah, I started running 166 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: my freshman year basically just to stay in shape for soccer. 167 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I went out for the cross country team that fall 168 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: just to stay in shape for soccer. I wanted to 169 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: play soccer in the spring. I was playing soccer growing up. 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: And I also danced growing up for about nine years, 171 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: and I resisted running for a long time. My parents 172 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: both they did marathons and road races and stuff. And 173 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: then my brother ran in high school and went on 174 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: to run in college. And I always said, I'm not 175 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: a runner, I'm a dancer. 176 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: You know. I didn't I didn't want to do what 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: they did. I was going to be different, and sitting here, 178 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: turns out I took it further than any of them did. 179 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, so i've I Eventually, I just got addicted 180 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: to the running culture and being part of that team 181 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: that fall was so fun. The Crest country team, the 182 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: Cress country girls were awesome, and I just I was like, 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: I don't even want to do soccer anymore. I just 184 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: want to keep doing this. And so my dad, actually 185 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: he was teaching and coaching at an all boys school, uh, 186 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: and decided when I when I decided I wanted to 187 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: continue running and pursue running instead of the other sports. 188 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: He said, well, heck, I'm I'm over here coaching these guys. 189 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: I'd rather be coaching youth. So he quit his job 190 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: there and moved over to our school and started coaching me. 191 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Wow, to come in really fun. 192 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely formed a really strong bond in high school, 193 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: just because we got to spend that time together was 194 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: really special. And I trusted him a lot, and I 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: think that's what was ended up making me really successful 196 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: in high school. I totally trusted him. I did whatever 197 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: he said. And he's a really good coach and a 198 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: really good a really good high school coach. It takes 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: a special person to be a good high school coach. 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: I feel like you're in I mean, we're always learning 201 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: and growing, but especially for young women in high school, 202 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: it's like a very so many Yeah, through sport is 203 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: a great way to learn a lot of those lessons, 204 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: But if you don't have someone who's you know, kind 205 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: of guiding you in a healthy way to learn how 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: to be competitive but also learn how to have some 207 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: grace with yourself and you know, if you're having a 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: bad day, it's Okay, you know it's this is not 209 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: going to make or break you. This one workout is 210 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: not going to make or break you. You know, learning 211 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: lessons like that I think was really important. Then I'm 212 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: still learning those lessons. 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I think we never stopped running. Okay, so you're running 214 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: track in high school and that's not the only thing 215 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you're doing. You also start doing some modeling. 216 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, about the same time as I started running, my 217 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: dance teacher was kind of encouraging me to start this, 218 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: you know, explore a new path which she thought it 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: could be successful in. And so yeah, we went to 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: like a little tryout at the local mall with my 221 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: mom and I ended up meeting an agent, which was awesome, 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: which she ended up being a really great person to 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 3: bring me into that crazy world of modeling. And then 224 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: she introduced me to an agent in New York. And yeah, 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: from there, I just started working and traveling around around 226 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: the world a little bit around the country. Some amazing 227 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: memories of you know, my sophomore year, I went to 228 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: Paris with my dad on spring break. It was so fun, 229 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: and I worked two days and then we just like 230 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: explored Paris and eight croissants and ran and he was 231 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: my coach, so I had to and I was there. 232 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: But stuff like that I never would have I never 233 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: would have done without modeling. We I had great family vacations, 234 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: but they were like camping in the woods in Colorado 235 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: and stuff, which is fun but totally different, you know, 236 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: type of travel. Yeah, so that was awesome too. I 237 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,479 Speaker 3: was definitely loving that and had a great experience. I'm 238 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: really glad now, in you know, twenty eighteen that I 239 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: don't have to sit here talking to someone on a 240 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: podcast about, you know, some horrible experience that I had 241 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 3: when I was young and doing this modeling and got 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: taken advantage of or had, you know, God knows all 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: these horrible things that could have happened at that time 244 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: that you know, didn't happen to me. I always had 245 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: my mom or my dad traveled with me to every gig. 246 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: They were overprotective. I hated it. At the time. I 247 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: was like, I'm you know, I'm so grown. I was sixteen. 248 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't need to but yeah, they 249 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: were definitely on top of like making sure that I 250 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: had a positive experience, and so I did and we 251 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: had so much fun. 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: But there got to be a point where you kind 253 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: of knew that you needed to leave that behind. Like 254 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: it was and like you said, it was a lot 255 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,359 Speaker 1: of fun and you definitely got a lot of opportunities 256 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: that you know, young women at that age certainly do 257 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: not come across all the time. 258 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and it was and so you know that, yeah, 259 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: that point, I had two opportunities really that a lot 260 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: of people at that time are in their life don't 261 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: always you know, get which it was go to school 262 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: for free and run in the NCAA Division I school 263 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: that's you know, ranked pretty high and has a good reputation, 264 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: like that's a great opportunity. Or moved to New York 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: and it's you know, big time agency wants to sign 266 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: you and things that you could be a successful high 267 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: end model and make a bunch of money and live 268 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: this like glam glam lifestyle. It's like those seemed like 269 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: two pretty great options to me when I was sixteen, 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: I was like, that's going to be you know, either 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: of those could be really cool. But I think when 272 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: it came down to it, I loved running so much 273 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: because so my team wasn't in high school, it wasn't 274 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: like super good. A lot of people maybe ticket as 275 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: seriously asided, especially like junior and senior year, and so 276 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: it felt a bit like an individual sport in a 277 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: lot of ways, where in the winter it would just 278 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: be like after school, it's snowing, and I got my 279 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: tights on and my gloves and my hat and I'm 280 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: going for my run. You know, I'm doing it. And 281 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: so I put in a lot of yeah, a lot 282 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: of work, made a lot of sacrifices, misgraduation and miss graduation. Yeah, 283 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: I had, Well, graduation was the same day as sexuals 284 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: and I had to get to the state meet, so 285 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: I had to miss Who schedules that kind of time, 286 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: I know every year. It happened every year, and a 287 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: lot of seniors would choose graduation, you know, if they 288 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: didn't have a good shot of going to state meet. 289 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: But I was trying to win the state meet, so 290 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going to graduation. That was 291 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: like a no brainer. That's so funny. 292 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: That your dad's your coach, because any other parent would 293 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: be like you're going to. 294 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, They didn't care. They were like, no, we're 295 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: going to the state We'd rather go with you in 296 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: the state meet than going to your graduation. And you 297 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: won the state and I won the state. Yeah right, 298 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: Colleen won the state meet totally. But that was that 299 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: whole like so many things that I put in into it, 300 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: that I sacrificed for that that I you know, I 301 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: really loved then the joy of like winning the state 302 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: meet or you know, going to Nationals. My senior year, 303 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: I finally made it to Nationals, so my parents went 304 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: with me to San Diego and we got to do 305 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: that whole thing together. That meant at the end of 306 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: the day, so much more to me than you know, 307 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: going to school and my friends would be like, oh, 308 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: we saw you in seventeen magazine or whatever, and I 309 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that was cool too, and it's like 310 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: a little embarrassing, but it didn't mean the same, you know, 311 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: deep down, and I was like, not as proud of that. 312 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: And so I think it's pretty impressive also in your 313 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: teenage years to have this outlook knowing how valuable the 314 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: work that you're putting in at the time is truly 315 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: to like the long term outcome a lot of the time, 316 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and please, I still feel like I'm a little bit 317 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: of a diva sometimes, like, oh, I don't want to 318 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: do the work totally, but you you had this mentality 319 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and you knew that you needed to do the work 320 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: if you want to read the benefits. I think a 321 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of people aren't willing to put in the work. 322 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know it's kind of like crazy that 323 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: I I mean, I was only like sixteen, but for 324 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: some reason, when you work really hard for something, you know, 325 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: and then it pans out or you know, you reach 326 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: your goal, that means so much. The reaching the goal 327 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: means so much more than if you can kind of 328 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: breeze by. And I always felt like that. I mean, 329 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: there's definitely, don't get me wrong, there's definitely some learning 330 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: and some work that goes into modeling, but I also 331 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: felt like so much of it was just like I 332 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: just got lucky, like I have my grandma is gorgeous, 333 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: and I got a lot of her great jeans, and 334 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: like I didn't do anything to get that way, and 335 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: it didn't feel like as much of like my because 336 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: of me. It just kind of happened to me versus 337 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: like the running. Definitely some against some good genes going 338 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: into that, but I also knew like I was working 339 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: my butt off and practice every time. I don't know 340 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: if I didn't do that, then there's no way I 341 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: was gonna ever win the state meet. So yeah, it 342 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: felt it felt more rewarding. 343 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: I think. 344 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: So you go to Florida State, how's that. 345 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: I loved it there. I spent four years there. I wish, 346 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: you know, I wish I could have spent more. I 347 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: just loved it. I was probably ready to graduate, but 348 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: I remember freshman year, finishing my freshman year and being like, 349 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a software I just want 350 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: to do freshman year again. It was so fun and 351 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh my god, you're obnoxious, but I just loved, 352 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: like I loved the team. All of a sudden, I 353 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: was surrounded by these people who loved running as much 354 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: as I did, and they made sacrifices for running the 355 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: same way that I did, and they had achieved things 356 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: in the NCAA that I wanted to achieve. And I 357 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: got to train with them and learn from them and 358 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, grow because of them, and I just thought 359 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: that was the coolest thing ever. I was like, this 360 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: is exactly you know what I wanted. Plus the sunshine 361 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: and everything didn't hurt either. 362 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: How did you find that kind of work life balance 363 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: with keeping up with your education, also participating in the 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: track team and being a very like high performing member 365 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: of the track team. 366 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I was. I was a three sport athlete. 367 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: Basically cross country as in the fall, indoor track is 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: in the winter, and outdoor track is in the spring. 369 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: So that like off season thing that a lot of 370 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: athletes talk about does not happen for the cross country team. 371 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: So it's you can never kind of be like, oh, I'll, 372 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: you know, focus more in school this semester because in 373 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: my off season I'll maybe I'll take an extra class 374 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: and then I can have a lighter load during the 375 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: track season when we're traveling more and stuff. It was like, no, 376 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: like you just got to get it done whenever you 377 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: know you can. So definitely from the gun having to learn, 378 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, priorities. Time management was huge, and hey, like 379 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: we might be in the van for three hours driving 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: to meet this weekend. That's three hours of like study time. 381 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: You know we wave exams when you get back on 382 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: Monday that you're missing on Thursday, Well you have three 383 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: extra hours on the way there and on the way 384 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: back to study. So definitely trying to just use every second, 385 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: you know, not wasting any time. I don't remember watching 386 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: a lot of TV or playing a lot of video 387 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: games or like anything like that, because I knew I 388 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: had a high priority on school, and I thought that 389 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: I never thought it was going to go pro. So 390 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 3: I thought I was actually going to use my degree 391 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: when I graduated, and I was going to need to 392 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: have good grades and you have a good resume when 393 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: I graduated. 394 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's so impressive. I mean, someone DM 395 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: me this morning and they said, I feel like I 396 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: would need to be on some sort of drug to 397 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: maintain your normal level of productivity. And I said to 398 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: her that my normal level of productivity is because I'm 399 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: my own boss, So I can't just phone it in 400 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: and show up at a desk, and I have to 401 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: get things done. If this stuff doesn't get done, then 402 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: where's the money coming from? How's this all happening. So 403 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: you've got to work hard if you're reaching for a goal. 404 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: You've got to work hard if you're reaching for a dream. 405 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: And in your case, you wanted to do it all. 406 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: You wanted to be on the track team, you wanted 407 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: to do well in school, and to do both. Sometimes 408 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: that had to be kind of symbiotic in your existence. 409 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 3: And you care a lot about it, Like you're very 410 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: passionate about your work, and so, I mean, it definitely 411 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: still seems like work, but it's also it's also fun. 412 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: Like I also really enjoyed what I was studying, and 413 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed being on the team and like going 414 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: to practice. So it was definitely sometimes stressful. You know, 415 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: sometimes certain classes weren't fun. If I'd take like a 416 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: history class or whatever, that was not as much fun. 417 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: But just trying to balance all that together and realize, 418 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: you know that I really love what I do too, 419 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: which I'm sure it's true for you as well. 420 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: What were you studying? I studied dietetics. Oh yeah, it's 421 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: such a good question. 422 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, which also pairs really well with athletics totally. 423 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: So you said you never thought you'd want to go pro, 424 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: just like you never thought you could go to college, 425 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: right a running scholarship. You see a pattern. Yeah, okay, 426 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: so you're kind of coming to as understanding that like 427 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: pro is in your reach. Yeah, so talk to me 428 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: about that. 429 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: That was crazy. I remember vividly sitting in it was 430 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: I was on my recruit trip to Florida State and 431 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting in the head coach's office and he 432 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: was talking about, oh, like the distance coach Karen Harvey 433 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: is really you know, she's really psyched about you or whatever. 434 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: I don't think he necessarily thought I was like something 435 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: crazy special to be using a full scholarship on. But 436 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: she really believed in me, and I was like okay. 437 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: And then I went and sat and talked to her 438 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: and she was talking about you know, training and stuff, 439 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: and then she threw in and just so you know, 440 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't coach pros. So when you graduate, 441 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: if that's what you're gonna do, you're going to have 442 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: to find a pro coach. I helped a couple people 443 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: along the way as they were like transitioning before they 444 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 3: found their pro coach, and so for a few months 445 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: I coached them. But it's not like that. I'm not 446 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: looking to do that. So just so and I just remember, like, what, 447 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: like you know out yeah, like Poz for those following Paz, 448 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: what wtf are you talking about? And like why are 449 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: you telling me that? I was like, I, you know, 450 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: I was so clueless as to I think my own 451 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: potential or like the possibility. I thought you had to 452 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: be so so so so so far ahead of where 453 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: I was to even think of that, so it wasn't 454 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: on my radar all and I just remember being like, okay, cool, 455 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: like not going to be a problem coach. Yeah, and 456 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: then yes you neior year, everyone was just like, so 457 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: were you going to the Olympics because I graduated in 458 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen and the Olympics were in twenty sixteen, so 459 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 3: I had one year after graduation to train and I 460 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: was like, I don't know, like can you. 461 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm like trying to think about how that would mentally register, 462 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: like someone too mean in all seriousness and look at 463 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: you in the eye and be like, so are you 464 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: going to the Olympics next year? 465 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 466 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: Is that what you're gonna do? 467 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Target next week if you want 468 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: to go to there. 469 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: That's pretty much my reaction too. I was like, well, 470 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: when first, when people first started asking me, I legit 471 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: was like no, like I answered like that like no, 472 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: like shot like you know something joking matter, like no, 473 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that, like stupid, yeah totally, and then 474 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: like I don't know that. Halfway through maybe the year, 475 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: I was like I started answering it, like I don't know, 476 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: you know, and then like the last half of the year, 477 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm definitely gonna try. 478 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: So how does one just decide they're going to try 479 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: to go to the only Yeah, Like what happens there? 480 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Do you have to find a pro coach? 481 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 482 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: I had to start. Basically, it's kind of like the 483 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: process of finding your school that you want to go 484 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: to all over again, minus the school partner. 485 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 486 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: So I was interviewing and visiting and talking to on 487 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: the phone different coaches all throughout the country. Some of 488 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: them have their own like teams, and that team has 489 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: a sponsor that sponsors the whole team. And then some 490 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: of them, you know, they're just like they're saying, hey, 491 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: like I'm a coach, this is my fee, and you 492 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: can be sponsored by whoever you want and come work 493 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: with me. And then you know, some coaches are are 494 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: still coaching at the collegiate level and then they have 495 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: a group of pros or whatever. So it works in 496 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: many different ways. But I was interested in a few 497 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: coaches that I knew had a good reputation and had 498 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: experienced coaching the steeplechase, which I thought was really important. 499 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: I didn't just want a distance coach. I wanted a 500 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: steeple chase coach, right, So the coach I chose is 501 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: Jerry Schumacher, and he coaches the American record holder in 502 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: the steeplechase for the men's side, Evan Jaker. And he 503 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: and Pascal Dobert, which is our assistant coach and kind 504 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: of our hurdles coach. They both taught Evan how to hurdle, 505 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: so brought him from being a baby freshman in college 506 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: and ab and brought him up, you know, the right way, 507 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: and taught him how to do it. And then just 508 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: a few years later he broke the American record and 509 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: now has a silver medal in the Olympics and the 510 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: steeple chase. So I knew there were pretty good coaches. 511 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, this kid has potential for sure, 512 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: but yeah, and they were coaching two other guys in 513 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: the steeple chase as well at the time, so didn't 514 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: have any women in the steeple chase, but I they 515 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: could coach it, and so I felt really confident in that. 516 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: And that's where Selene Flanagan was was being coached too, 517 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: and I knew she was really good obviously. 518 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: I just like can't even imagine, like I have this 519 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: option to go be in Oregon and work with Nike, 520 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: and man, like that sounds like it could be pretty cool. 521 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. I talked to her on the phone for the 522 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 3: first time. My college coach had a connection with her 523 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: and so she like passed along her information and I 524 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: called her one Sunday and she was like, yeah, I 525 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: did my long run this morning. I ran whenever twenty 526 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: two miles or whatever it was. And now I'm doing this, 527 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 3: I'm hanging out. 528 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm talking to on a 529 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Sunday phone call, just a casual phone call. 530 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: It was nuts. But she was right for the gun, 531 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: super welcoming and just easy to talk to, very little key, 532 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: and just like she didn't make it seem like a 533 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: big thing. And she's very open about what it was 534 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: like to be trained by Jerry and to be living 535 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: here and work with Nike, and you know, she's a 536 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: total pro at that point, so she knows, you know, 537 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: even giving me advice about agents, and that's just like 538 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: the whole process. That was really important for me to 539 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: have somebody who's done it before. I didn't know anyone 540 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: who had gone pro, So I was like, I don't 541 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: even know the first thing about. 542 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: This totally, And I mean, I've heard so many good 543 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: things about Slane being like a really excellent role model. 544 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: When I was sitting down with your teammate Emily in 545 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: field before, Emily was like, yeah, Selene and I are 546 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: talking every day about what I should be doing. 547 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 548 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's like she's your big sister, so. 549 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 3: Nice to have. Yeah. I mean, Jerry Schumacker is a 550 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: great coach, but he's not the kind of guy who's 551 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: going to sit there and hold your hand, especially if 552 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: you're injured or if you're off the you know, you're 553 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: not in the normal workout schedule. It's you know, he's 554 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: got twenty something athletes. So if you're injured and you 555 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: have to be doing your own thing, you know, that's 556 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 3: kind of on you to figure out what you need 557 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: to do. Go see doctors, go seept staying on your 558 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 3: rehab exercises, get in the pool, do your cross training, 559 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: and come back to practice when you're ready to work 560 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: out again, right, which is super hard. 561 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Totally. 562 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: Emily's going through that right now. I've been through that 563 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 3: a few times more times than I wish I have 564 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: gone through. But it's tough. 565 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely tough. 566 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, having somebody like Shoaling there to help you figure 567 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: out how much questrating to do? And am I seeing 568 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: the right pt? And you know, I feel like I 569 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: have been, but I'm not making any progress? Like what 570 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: do I do now? Maybe I need an MRI, Like 571 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: there's just so many things that you need a sounding 572 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: board for. 573 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: Quick break from today's episode to give the sponsor Athletic 574 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Greens a little bit of love. 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So 591 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: you move to Oregon and you're prep in for the Olympics, right, 592 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: and you have a little bit of a hurdle moment. 593 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely didn't start my pro career off on 594 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: the right foot. I pushed my season too long in 595 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, probably longer than I should have, kind of 596 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: nursing an injury because I really I qualified for the 597 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: World's team that summer, and I really wanted to go. 598 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: I didn't want to give up my spot on that team. 599 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: But I also kind of had this injury that I'd 600 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: been nursing all season and it just it wasn't getting 601 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: any better. But then I ended up having to take 602 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: a lot of time in the fall to get that 603 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: healthy again. 604 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: And so what were you dealing with? 605 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: It was a high hamstring. I think I don't even 606 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: ever really don't one of those so annoying, very different 607 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: than say a high hamstring. Everyone's like, oh yeah, like 608 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: it's still a hard spot. You don't get a lot 609 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: of blood flow there, just not a lot of great 610 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: things you can do. So I got PRP and splash 611 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: of rehab. PRP is called I can't remember what it stands, 612 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: where it's like platelet something something. They basically take out 613 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: your blood from your arm and they spin it and 614 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: like these like centrifuged things, and then they take the 615 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: healing factors of your blood and they inject it right 616 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: into the spot that hurts. So they would inject it 617 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: into the hamstring with like this big needle, and not 618 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: only that, they just kind of they get in there 619 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: with Then you don't kind of jab around a bit 620 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: breaking up scar tissue and stuff and injecting fluid in 621 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: a space that doesn't need extra fluid, you know, not 622 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: you know, a comfortable procedure, but it can help because 623 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of blood flow there, so it 624 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: needs to be kind of in the injury had been 625 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: kind of so old that it needed to be woken 626 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: up again and be like, tell your body go back 627 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: there and fix that I know you like kind of 628 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: gave up on it, but I need to go back 629 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: and like make it right again. 630 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: So you're really nurse in this injury and real and yeah, the. 631 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: Months are, you know, just flying by. I'm like, Okay. 632 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: At first, it was like no big deal, you know, 633 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: I still got a year, and then it was like king, 634 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: I got like eight months, and then it was like, okay, 635 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: were you is six months away? Like behind time to 636 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: keep going, and the panic definitely was setting in. I 637 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: remember lots of tearful phone calls to my parents being 638 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: like I don't know, like what I'm gonna do. Maybe 639 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: I've made the wrong decision. You know, I feel stupid. 640 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm here. I haven't even run a step since I've 641 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: been here. I've been in the pool every day. It's 642 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: raining every dang day, Like I'm Viseral part Line, Like, 643 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: so it's the winter and like all my teammates, I'm like, 644 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: I have no friends. All my teammates are out there 645 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: running every day and I'm in the pool. It was like, 646 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: not a good start. 647 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: How did you shift that headspace to be more positive? 648 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: Because I can only imagine that right at the beginning 649 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: of your pro career, This must have been so much pressure, 650 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of it that you're inflicting on yourself. 651 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just signed this contract with Nike, and I 652 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: had all these you know things, goals for myself in 653 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: the contract that they had. I had for myself, and 654 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: they had for me that I was supposed to hit 655 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: along the way, and I was like, oh, God, like, 656 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, that does seem like a lot of pressure. 657 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: It's so crazy when I think back about that time, 658 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: because I vividly remember the day of the final. It 659 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: was in Eugene, organ at the University of Oregon's track, 660 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: this very historic famous track called Hayward Field. It's where 661 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: they hosted the trials in twenty sixteen, and my whole 662 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: family was there. My mom, my dad, brother, and sister 663 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: were all there to cheer me on. And even though 664 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: I'd been through all this, and you know, I'd been 665 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: healthy running for about ten weeks before the trials, so 666 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't a complete wreck, but they also knew that 667 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: I had been through a lot that year and that 668 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't I definitely wasn't one hundred percent. So everyone's 669 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: there to cheer me on, and I, for some reason, 670 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: I probably should have been like crapping my pants at 671 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: that time. I'm you know, I'm only twenty two and 672 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: this is my first I guess I was twenty three 673 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: by then, my first ever trials, and all this stuff 674 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: had happened to me, and I just remember like having 675 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: lunch with my family the day of the final. I 676 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: made it to the final fine, and I remember having 677 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: lunch with them and just being so relaxed and like, 678 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, just I was happy. I was like, 679 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm at the Olympic Trials. This is something both my 680 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: parents really wanted to do and strive to do and 681 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: never were able to accomplish, just trying to qualify for 682 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: the trials. Right. My brother as well, he has struggled 683 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: with his own injuries in the past and has never 684 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: seemed to be able to string together the training in 685 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: order at the you know, with the right timing, which is, 686 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's hard. A lot of people don't realize 687 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 3: it happens every four years, and if you get injured 688 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: right before, you have to wait another four years for 689 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: another shot. 690 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Right. 691 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: So that's kind of what happened to him, is he 692 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: did never the timing never really aligned for him when 693 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: he was running well you know, it didn't work out. 694 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: So anyway, I was living this dream that they, you know, 695 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: had dreamed of and I was doing it and that 696 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: seems really special just being there and that I, you know, 697 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: I had a real shot of going yeah, And so 698 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: I remember getting the start line just feeling, you know, relaxed. 699 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: I was still a little nervous, but mostly just relaxed 700 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: and excited. And I knew my job, and I knew 701 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 3: my race plan that had with my coach, and I 702 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: was like determined to make the most of the tools 703 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: that I had with me totally. But when looking back, 704 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, how did I get there in such a 705 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: calm like state that was so like ready to actually 706 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: do what I needed to do. I actually just wrote 707 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: this article for Runner's Ruled about how attitude impacts recovery. 708 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's so much research. 709 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: I remember there's this one University of Illinois at Chicago 710 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: study and they'd inflicted a small wound inside some students' mouths, Like, 711 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't painful, it's a small wound, and those that 712 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: showed dissatisfaction or symptoms of stress and depression or slower 713 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: to recover than those that did not. So if you 714 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: had like a good attitude, they recovered faster than those 715 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: that were like stressed about exams or something like that. 716 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: So to have this positivity, yeah, little did you know 717 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: the magic that was happening inside so real? 718 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, unreal. Yeah, And then I went to Rio and 719 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: then I just went to real. I remember it was 720 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 3: so fun because at that point we had I believe 721 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: it was six Bowerman Babes. So we're the Barnman Trap 722 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 3: Club and all the women. We decided to call ourselves 723 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: the Barman Babes self proclaimed. Some some people get like 724 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: uncomfortable with babes and we're like, no, we created that 725 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: name for ourselves, like we're embracing it. You can call it. 726 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: Call us that too, like, well, cool with it. And 727 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: I think there were six of us that got to go, 728 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: and so we went to a training camp right after, 729 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: and we were just like Cloud nine. Besides Laine, the 730 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: younger group of us. I had never been to an 731 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: Olympic Games before, so we were like just giddy, like 732 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: excited for the gear and excited to learn all about 733 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: the facilities that we were going to use there, and 734 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: you know all the things that I heard their dynamite 735 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: it was cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. We actually didn't 736 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 3: stay in the village. My team and I stayed at 737 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: hotel that was closer to everything. There was actually pretty 738 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: spread out, and so they wanted us to stay. My 739 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: coach wanted us to stay near where we were gonna 740 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 3: practice and run and where the track was and stuff. 741 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: So we stayed in a hotel over there. 742 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: But so give the rundown. What happened at the Olympics. 743 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: So I ran in. So you have to run a 744 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: prelimb to get to the final, just like pretty much 745 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 3: any championship. You have to run a race in order 746 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: to get to the race where they hand out the 747 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: medals and everything the medal. So the kind of pre 748 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: race went fine. I was a little bit, you know, 749 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: it's always nervous that I felt like, for sure I 750 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: have the ability to make the final. I deserve to 751 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: be in the final. But everybody, no matter if you 752 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: win the Olympics, everybody has to run in the qualifying race, right, 753 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: no matter you're ranking so and anything could happen in 754 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: that race, right, Like the number one seed could get 755 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: tripped and end up you know whatever, something crazy happens 756 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: and then she hurts herself and can't run the final 757 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: or you know, like all these crazy scenarios. I was like, 758 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: just get through the prelimb safe and clean and you know, 759 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: feeling good. And so we did. My teammate and I 760 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: both did. I had another teammate at that time who 761 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: was also running the steeple chase who had just graduated 762 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 3: that year and signed with us, so we're training buddies 763 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: and stuff. Both made it to the final and I 764 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: finished eighth in the final and Courtney finished eleventh. It 765 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: was weird, like when it was over, it was kind 766 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: of like this, I mean a lot of Olympians talk 767 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: about this, where it's like we're so excited, it's like 768 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: this huge deal, and then it's over and you're just 769 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 3: kind of like down the other side of this cliff 770 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: of emotional cliff and you're like whoa. And then the 771 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: next day I got super sick. I had this like 772 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 3: horrible throat thing that turned into a nasal thing where 773 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: I was like just glowing crap out of my nose 774 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: the best of the summer and I wasn't done in Rio. 775 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: Which was probably the toughest part was that if my 776 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 3: season had ended there, I think I would have recovered 777 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: and been fine, but we my coach shifted me off 778 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 3: to Europe. We wanted to keep racing. There's more races 779 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 3: after the Olympics, and so I went out to Europe 780 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: and ran I think two or three more steeple chases 781 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: after that, and didn't go great. It wasn't like horrible. 782 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: I think I pr by a teeny bit in one 783 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: of them. 784 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't horrible. I just pr well. 785 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: I knew I was in the shape, in shape for 786 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: a good pr but I didn't run as well as 787 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: I should have, just because I was sick and just 788 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: emotionally exhausted after that and just needed like break, And 789 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: so finished the season off and then just went home 790 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: and yeah, relaxed, went home to the fancy that my 791 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 3: family for a while and just be like glad that 792 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: it was it happened, Glad that has happened, and then 793 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: glad that it was like kind of over. 794 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: People talk about that a lot, especially marathoners, or I mean, 795 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: I feel like events in everyday life that you just 796 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: work so hard toward, whether you know it is athletic 797 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: or it's just maybe something big at the office. You 798 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: work day in and day out for months and months 799 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: leading up to this thing, and then when. 800 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: It's done, it's like, what am I supposed to know? 801 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: I hadn't really thought about after. Yeah, I just was 802 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: focused on that thing. 803 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: But like, what now, talk to me about that after, 804 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: Like what's it been like? So I was going to 805 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: the Olympics. 806 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: I had in my head. You know, we've talked about 807 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 3: how I wasn't going to run in college and then 808 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to run professionally. Well, I had in 809 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: my head that I would run one Olympics and then 810 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 3: at that point I would say I had a year 811 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: to train. So I thought, either after that year, you know, 812 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: I don't make it and it's a bummer and I 813 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: wish it could have. But I gave it my best 814 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: shot and I'm only wasted a year on the project. Anyway, Right, 815 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: you have to wait three years still the next Olympics. 816 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, that's not that bad 817 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: if I do make the team, awesome. I went to 818 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: the Olympics. Check like, what's next? Let go be a dietician. 819 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 3: After Rio, I pretty much immediately was like, well, I'm 820 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 3: going to the next Olympics. Now I could like that 821 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 3: was fun. It I could do better, So. 822 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: We're trying to do better. 823 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty is just less than two years away. Now. 824 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: I love that you have perspective on it though. I 825 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: mean you told Runners World the ultimate goal is to 826 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: inspire people to take on challenges, to build the team 827 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 3: aspect in and to just give people extra confidence to 828 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: do something that's scary. Yeah, when you talk about how 829 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 3: you are on social media and with fast Bread Friday 830 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: and just your attitude is pretty priceless. Yeah, taking on 831 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: like a new challenge or you know, something that really 832 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: scares you is it can be daunting, for sure. But 833 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: a few things that have really helped me was I mean, 834 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: the number one thing for sure is joining a team. 835 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: I joined the Barber and Track Club because I wanted 836 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: to be surrounded by people who inspired me and who 837 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: had done the things that I've already done, the things 838 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to do and could kind of show me 839 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 3: the way. So that's like Slaine and the older guys 840 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: to Evan has been a big mentor that way too, 841 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 3: And so yeah, anyone who's likes has this big goal, 842 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 3: has a big dreams. It's hard to do those things 843 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: by yourself. You need people along the way to support 844 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 3: you and show you, you know, show you the way, 845 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: and so that was a huge thing. And having a 846 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: good coach too, I mean that could be you know, 847 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 3: even if you're talking about a non athletic endeavor, a 848 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: good boss or whatever, someone who is directing you and 849 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 3: helping you. Those things been amazing to me. 850 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to talk it out. When you 851 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: look back right now on your running career thus far, 852 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: and please, I'm going to keep saying this far because 853 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: there's so much more for. 854 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: You to go. 855 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, what can you say? Has been one of the 856 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: best pieces of advice you've been given. 857 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 3: Kind of my go to for this is something that 858 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: I've used a lot since it was given to me 859 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: by my dad. In high school, there was this race. 860 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: It was the state meet actually my senior year, and 861 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: I went into that race I really wanted to win. 862 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: I not won a state championship yet in cross country 863 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: range track, and it was my senior year, so it's 864 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 3: like my last chance. I really wanted a bit. And 865 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: so his last advice to me was pretty simple. It 866 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 3: was it's not over till it's over. And it seems 867 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 3: kind of weird and kind of like, well, duh, but 868 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: there's so many points in a race and in life 869 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 3: where you can be like you just feel like it's hopeless, 870 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 3: or feel like it's not going to happen, and so 871 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 3: you're not you haven't even seen the result yet, but 872 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 3: you're already resigned to giving up and throwing in the 873 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 3: towel and not even seeing what would happen if you 874 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 3: kept trying, even though it might not be going your way. 875 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 3: And so, you know, he said, anytime you get in 876 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: the race and you feel like you feel like, shoot, 877 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: it's not going the way I had imagined it going, 878 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 3: just keep going and just see what happens, and you 879 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: might have to change. But it's not over until you 880 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 3: cross the line. So you haven't lost until you cross 881 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 3: the line right and then you know, if you cross 882 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: the line and you've lost, then we'll deal with that. 883 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: But and so I did. I followed his advice, and 884 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 3: something really weird happened in the race about it was 885 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: about eight hundred meters to go, two laps to go. 886 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: The girl who I was probably most worried about beating 887 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 3: me just kind of I was in the lead, and 888 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 3: she took off. She went around me with two laps 889 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: to go and just started killing it. And I was like, damn, like, 890 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: there goes another championship, Like I can't follow that. We 891 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 3: still have two laps to go. I can't hold onto 892 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 3: that pace for two laps. I was like, I was 893 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 3: so bombed. I was like shoot, and I was like, well, 894 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 3: you know, it's not over till it's over. And so 895 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: I kind of went out like kind of chased after her. 896 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: I wasn't like on her. She definitely was gaining on me, 897 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: but I also picked up my pace. And then when 898 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 3: we crossed the start finish line with one lap to 899 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: go where they ring the bells and one lap to go, 900 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: she was ahead of me. And I could see her 901 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: ahead of me cross the line and stop because she 902 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: thought the race was over. Oh my goodness, and we 903 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: still had another four hundred meters to go, and so 904 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: then I was like, what is she doing? Like I 905 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: still didn't even like everyone in the stands knew what 906 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 3: had happened when they saw her take off eight hundred 907 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: meters ago. Everywhere in the stands was like no, like 908 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: she miscounted, but I had no clue, and so I 909 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 3: was like, well, yeah, I was like she's out. And 910 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: then yeah, I was like I feel great, And I 911 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: finished ended up pring by like twenty seconds because of 912 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 3: that third that we made. Wow, and yeah, and won 913 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 3: the race. It was so it was like crazy. But 914 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: and after we got done, I went to my dad. 915 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: I was like, you're right, Like I almost freaked out 916 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 3: when she did that. And then I just told myself 917 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: it's not over yet, like maybe you can get still getter. 918 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 919 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've used that so many times in racing and 920 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: just in like normal life stuff where you get so 921 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 3: worried about something not going the right way, and it's 922 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 3: like it's not over yet, like we could still turn 923 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: it around, Like we can still say this. 924 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: You have the opportunity right now, looking back on your 925 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: time so far as a professional athlete, to offer yourself 926 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: one piece of advice. Maybe looking back on that time 927 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: where you're getting the god knows needles into the back 928 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: of your hamsterring. What what would you tell the Colleen 929 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: at that hurdle moment in her life. 930 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I did have the support that 931 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: I had at that time. I know that, you know, 932 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 3: I had mentioned that there were so many tearful phone 933 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: calls to parents and boyfriend and everything, and they were 934 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 3: telling me, doctor can't really fix it. You know, there's 935 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: certain things you can try and do, but this is 936 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: something you're gonna have to go through, and you're just 937 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: gonna do that. You're going to go through it. And 938 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: I do think I have learned. Even though every injury 939 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: I've had has been its own special form of misery, 940 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 3: I definitely have learned something either about myself or even 941 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 3: if it's like about the way that I run that 942 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 3: I didn't realize I had a weakness here, or even 943 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 3: things about my posture or mental strength. There's I started 944 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 3: meditating and that's been helping a lot. There's always something 945 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 3: to learn from those really difficult times. Even though it's 946 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: like the last thing you want to hear when you're 947 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 3: going through something hard, you're gonna learn a great lesson. 948 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: You're like, no, this is just horrible for the sake 949 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 3: of being horrible, I promise, but a lot of yeah, 950 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 3: a lot of these people were trying to tell me 951 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 3: those things, and maybe maybe I didn't know it right away, 952 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 3: but I definitely found out later that like, yeah, I 953 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 3: do this now, and I never would have started doing that. 954 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 3: And if it wasn't for that, injury. I'm like, well, 955 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: that's interesting, that's interesting. 956 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks so much for sitting down with 957 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: me today. I wish we had so much more time. 958 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: You have to go lead a bunch of women doing 959 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: some fast period Friday stuff. Please take a moment to 960 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: leave a quick review by clicking the link with the 961 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 1: description to this episode. We all face multiple hurdles in life. 962 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: I want to hear about yours. Reach Out to me 963 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: at Emily at Hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast 964 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast Colleen. Where do 965 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: they find you? 966 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram at Steeple, Underscore, Squigs or you can 967 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 3: just look me up as Colleen Quickly. I'm a Twitter too, 968 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: but I don't really is it so Instagram is the 969 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: best way. 970 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: It's cool, all right? I am at Emily Abody. Another 971 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.