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Speaker 1: now live in Ohio. Hi, everybody, It's Joe Burrow Wednesday.
Speaker 1: In about ten to twelve minutes. I got three things
Speaker 1: I want to talk about as we begin. I've always
Speaker 1: had this belief. I've told a lot of young broadcasters this,
Speaker 1: or people in the industry. There's a sea of money
Speaker 1: chase management. There's very little great management. When you find them,
Speaker 1: latch onto them and follow them, you'll make money. Don't
Speaker 1: chase money. It's bad karma. And I also I look
Speaker 1: at the NFL selfishly. Adding more playoff games is good
Speaker 1: for my professional career, all right, more big games to
Speaker 1: talk about. But I don't think it was done for
Speaker 1: any other reason than greed. Nobody demanded a seventeenth regular
Speaker 1: season game. Nobody demanded a seventh playoff team in the
Speaker 1: AFC and NFC, and look at the two games we
Speaker 1: have now. Seattle in the old format would not be
Speaker 1: a playoff team and shouldn't be. They haven't played well
Speaker 1: for a month and a half. They play the Niners.
Speaker 1: San Francisco is now being asked to beat Seattle for
Speaker 1: a third straight time. That's hard. That is hard. So
Speaker 1: if the Niners, the most popular NFL franchise easily Denver West,
Speaker 1: get knocked off because they can't beat the team three times,
Speaker 1: Niners should have a bye. In the old format, Niners
Speaker 1: would have a bye, They'd get rested, and Seattle wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. What if San Francisco gets Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey gets knocked out for the playoffs or left tackle
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, who's had trouble with injuries. Anytime you do
Speaker 1: something for greed at backfires go to the AFC. Buffalo
Speaker 1: should have a bye, they would in the old format. Instead,
Speaker 1: they have to face Miami for a third time. Miami
Speaker 1: hasn't played like Seattle well in five six weeks. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. So Seattle in Miami in the
Speaker 1: old format a couple of years ago, are sitting home
Speaker 1: watching on TV. They don't feel like playoff teams. And
Speaker 1: I'm from the Pacific Northwest and I predicted Miami would
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. But you know, I just have
Speaker 1: this bad vibe. What if Josh Allen gets knocked out
Speaker 1: for the playoffs sin ankles out? Is that good for
Speaker 1: the NFL. Anytime you do something for money, it always
Speaker 1: comes back to bite you in the butt. And I
Speaker 1: love the NFL, but I think it's unfair to the
Speaker 1: Niners and unfair to the Bills, especially the Niners. They've
Speaker 1: already hammered Seattle twice. They got to do it again.
Speaker 1: Really so reports now that Harball leading candidate for the
Speaker 1: new owners the Walmart family, for the Denver Broncos job.
Speaker 1: Multiple people I trust say, if he's offered it twenty
Speaker 1: million a year, he'll take it. Wish he would stay
Speaker 1: at Michigan, which he would continue to be connected to
Speaker 1: college football, But at twenty million, Michigan a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago asked him to take a pay cut. I
Speaker 1: get it, He'll move to the NFL. And I do
Speaker 1: think he's uniquely built for the kind of football. Denver
Speaker 1: needs to play with that current roster to beat him
Speaker 1: Mahomes and beat a Herbert Bullyball, build an old line,
Speaker 1: ask like he did Kaepernick, Alex Smith, Andrew Luck, ask
Speaker 1: a quarterback Russell Wilson to run a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: really built for Harboss style of football. Sean Payton's interesting
Speaker 1: though the Rams moved to LA. They're not that popular.
Speaker 1: They're not really an established brand in Los Angeles. They
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and this year they fall apart.
Speaker 1: So we knew they were very, very thin because they
Speaker 1: pay Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald and Matt Stafford and
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey a lot of top of the market contracts,
Speaker 1: so they're thin, and those teams are always vulnerable when
Speaker 1: they face lots of injuries, which the Rams did on
Speaker 1: their own line. It was a mess. But Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: if Sean McVay bolts is so perfect for this job. Now.
Speaker 1: I know Sean pretty well. I've talked to him eight
Speaker 1: ten different times on my show on FS one, and
Speaker 1: I've talked to him, gone to dinner with him. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to speak for Sean, but I can tell
Speaker 1: you ownership and quarterback talent are the two things he
Speaker 1: worries about. Stan Cronky is aggressive and doesn't medal and
Speaker 1: writes big che x, perfect for Sean Payton's personality. Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford smart, aggressive, big arm veteran, perfect for what Sean
Speaker 1: Payton wants. A smart guy that can make big throws,
Speaker 1: has played in big games, doesn't have to babysit him
Speaker 1: socially or emotionally, just a guy who can sling it.
Speaker 1: And McVeagh is so profoundly culturally significant to the Rams.
Speaker 1: If Sean leaves, then you got to hire the other Sean.
Speaker 1: You got to bring in a big resume and a
Speaker 1: big ring, and a big trophy and a big point
Speaker 1: of view. So Sean Payton to the Rams. That's about
Speaker 1: as good as you can do. A lot of people
Speaker 1: talked about the Chargers job, but I always look at
Speaker 1: that job the Spanos family. Dean Spano's being sued by
Speaker 1: his daughter, He's got his sons in the front office.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That just doesn't quite feel as ideal
Speaker 1: as Sean Payton would want it. Sean Payton had Gail Benson,
Speaker 1: writes big checks, stays out of the way. That's Stan
Speaker 1: Cronky aggressive writes big checks, doesn't get in the way.
Speaker 1: The Rams are also really aggressive. Sean Payton, if I
Speaker 1: know anything about him, He's aggressive if he wants something,
Speaker 1: if he sees something, he wants to attack something. I
Speaker 1: think the DNA match between the Rams cronky less sneed
Speaker 1: the culture of the organization, and Sean Payton feels to
Speaker 1: me as perfect to fit as Sean would find. I
Speaker 1: think Sean would be frustrated with Russell Wilson. They're different people.
Speaker 1: I think Russell's limited as a pocket quarterbacks. That's what
Speaker 1: Sean wants. He liked Breeze, he likes Stafford sit in
Speaker 1: the pocket, throw dark, I'll drop the plays. I'll be
Speaker 1: the creative deliver. That's what Drew Brees was. That's what
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is. So I was talking to somebody I
Speaker 1: met the other day in regards to timing, and they
Speaker 1: were talking about the podcast industry, and we were actually
Speaker 1: talking about the subscription service called The Athletic and how
Speaker 1: it sold to The New York Times for four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five hundred million dollars. And this person was saying,
Speaker 1: because of the erosion of the stock market, Dow Jones
Speaker 1: is down several thousand, and because you know the world's
Speaker 1: always changing with so many new platforms, is that it
Speaker 1: may not sell for that today, not even close to that,
Speaker 1: but it did. Then there's a moment in time for
Speaker 1: everything to sell in the media. That's what this person
Speaker 1: who has a lot of experience we talked about, is
Speaker 1: that sometimes something that sells won't sell in six months.
Speaker 1: You've got a hit on the time. And I thought,
Speaker 1: that's what's fascinating about the New England Patriots. This was
Speaker 1: the year to get into the playoffs. The Jets were
Speaker 1: a shit show at quarterback and Tuah couldn't stay healthy. Okay,
Speaker 1: if Miami goes out and gets Derek Carr and the
Speaker 1: Jets get Garoppolo, Matt Jones is the fourth best quarterback
Speaker 1: in your division. You don't get to the playoffs with
Speaker 1: a fourth best quarterback in your division. I don't see
Speaker 1: an easy way out for New England. I mean Tua
Speaker 1: probably inside the Dolphins executive suite they've made a decision
Speaker 1: to move on. He's simply college and pro can't stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Not his fault, his reality. And the Jets are obviously
Speaker 1: going to the market. They need a left tackle and
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They have talent running back, corner, defensive line weapons.
Speaker 1: They got good players, and New England doesn't have a
Speaker 1: single receiver that separates. Davante Parker doesn't separate, Jacoby Myers
Speaker 1: doesn't separate. They're really average O line wide receiver, tight end.
Speaker 1: It's not a highly abundant wide receiver group in the
Speaker 1: first round. Maybe by the second. But Jordan Addison maybe
Speaker 1: is a first round wide receiver. Zay Jones maybe is.
Speaker 1: There's not four or five this year like there have
Speaker 1: been in previous years. I don't know the way out.
Speaker 1: That's what's fascinating. This was the year and they wasted
Speaker 1: it by connecting Joe Judge and Matt Patricia to the offense.
Speaker 1: Go back and look at mac jones rookie stats. They're
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. They're really solid B plus stuff, and he regressed.
Speaker 1: So the timing go back to timing. This was the
Speaker 1: year to get some momentum. If Mac Jones played well,
Speaker 1: you have a greater chance to go into the free
Speaker 1: agent market and convince a DeAndre Hopkins, who reportedly Arizona
Speaker 1: is going to move convince a DeAndre Hopkins. Hey, I
Speaker 1: had a great rookie year followed by a great second year,
Speaker 1: come to New England and be the star. Well, he
Speaker 1: looks at it now, d Hop would look at New
Speaker 1: England and go oh, I wouldn't want to be part
Speaker 1: of that. That offends a mess. So I don't know
Speaker 1: the easy way out. And I thought it was absolutely
Speaker 1: something that Bill Belichick, when asked about the season, immediately said,
Speaker 1: I'm returning for twenty twenty four. That's not your call,
Speaker 1: that's the owner's call. The fact that Belichick put it
Speaker 1: out publicly, I'll be back next year, Andy Reid doesn't
Speaker 1: say that. It's the owner's call. That's never the coach's call.
Speaker 1: In the NFL or the NBA. I'll be back Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr's back if Joe Lacob, who owns the Warriors, wants
Speaker 1: it back, and that's Steve Kerr. Belichick knows he's kind
Speaker 1: of cornered here. The staff isn't great, doesn't have an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, doesn't have a tide end or or receiver
Speaker 1: that separates. Didn't you think it was something that Belichick's
Speaker 1: first opinion was, I'll be back, basically cornering Bob Kraft.
Speaker 1: Bob Kraft now is on the defensive Oh wait, Belichick's
Speaker 1: coming back bill didn't leave it open for a meeting
Speaker 1: or a discussion or an argument or a tug of
Speaker 1: war over his future. I thought it was something. So
Speaker 1: college football has a new national champion, but it's the
Speaker 1: same old national champion from the same old conference, Georgia,
Speaker 1: back to back titles SEC kings. So I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people are selling this fairy tale that in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, when the twelve team playoff arrives, it
Speaker 1: will create opportunities and parody for the little guy. Oh nonsense. Listen,
Speaker 1: if you look at certain things throughout the course of time,
Speaker 1: take the oscars. Hollywood used to be like five films
Speaker 1: nominated Picture of the Year. I'd watch all of them.
Speaker 1: If there were six, I would watch five or six.
Speaker 1: Now it's eight to ten. Oh, it creates more opportunities. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't, because there's not ten great films a year.
Speaker 1: There's about four. It just dilutes the oscars, which have
Speaker 1: never had lower ratings, never had less interest. You diluted.
Speaker 1: There are movies now they get nominated for Best Picture,
Speaker 1: and they weren't the best picture in the last week.
Speaker 1: They weren't the best picture in the month they were released.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of average. Now it's the same
Speaker 1: thing with a twelve team playoff. I'm four it because
Speaker 1: it's more big games, and I think college football has
Speaker 1: a big game problem. But college football football in general
Speaker 1: is a depth sport. It's not just that Georgia has
Speaker 1: great starters, but it's that they have two and three
Speaker 1: NFL bodies at corner, two and three bodies at linebacker.
Speaker 1: It's their depth of talent. USC has got some really
Speaker 1: good frontline starters. That guy gets hurt, they don't have
Speaker 1: anybody behind them. That's the difference between national championship contenders
Speaker 1: and good teams, right, And so in a playoff, you're
Speaker 1: going to ask the little engine that could Cincinnati, Boise
Speaker 1: State TCU. You think it's going to be easier for
Speaker 1: them to have to face a Georgia followed by an LSU,
Speaker 1: followed by a USC followed by an Oregon. That's easier. No,
Speaker 1: The easiest is, hey, can you catch somebody after a
Speaker 1: month off by surprise Michigan and beat him and then
Speaker 1: have a chance to play for the national title? Watch
Speaker 1: what happens. Just like the oscars, You're going to open
Speaker 1: it up to more people. It's gonna dilute it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have more blowouts. You're gonna have at least four
Speaker 1: SEC teams getting into the top twelve. This is why
Speaker 1: I argued Alabama should have been in. Everybody was outraged.
Speaker 1: You wake up this morning. The three best teams I
Speaker 1: watched in college football Georgia, Bama, and a coin flip,
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan. I thought Ohio State outplayed Georgia. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Michigan matched up as well as Ohio State did.
Speaker 1: But you know, just like the oscars, oh, let's give
Speaker 1: more people an opportunity to present average material. Twelve team playoff.
Speaker 1: You do get by the ninth, eighth, ninth, tenth team,
Speaker 1: there'll be some three lost teams in. They'll all be
Speaker 1: two lost teams. You'll have three loss teams against Georgia.
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Speaker 1: All right, First of all, long time, no talk. A
Speaker 1: lot of people bailed on Joe Burrow, not this host.
Speaker 1: I remember that second half against Dallas and I said,
Speaker 1: I saw it. They're gonna be fine. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: you let's take the regular season. Take a deep breath. Um,
Speaker 1: when did you because you you want a lot of
Speaker 1: games in a row. Now, was there a a one
Speaker 1: or a two game or one or two half moment
Speaker 1: for you, Joe that you said, Okay, boom, we're clicking.
Speaker 1: We're all good this this is a good team. Not really,
Speaker 1: you know, we we had moments of that early in
Speaker 1: the year, and it really just came down to being
Speaker 1: more consistent as a team and as an offense. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there was one or two games that
Speaker 1: you point tune do like that's that's the turning point.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of progression of the season. You get
Speaker 1: better throughout the season, you have more practice time together,
Speaker 1: you have more reps accumulated, and you just get better
Speaker 1: as the season goes. I'm not a huge fan of
Speaker 1: playing a team a third time, So why I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of you know, Miami Buffalo a third time,
Speaker 1: Seattle San Francisco. I don't like it. I think it's hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, Buffalo is hard to beat once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you look at it and think, all right,
Speaker 1: they know my tendencies. How do you view it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why division games are always harder because you've you
Speaker 1: play each other twice a year. You know how the
Speaker 1: other unit operates, you know the guys, you know the scheme,
Speaker 1: they know what you're trying to do. You know what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do, so you you know, it's always
Speaker 1: harder in those division games, and that's why they're always
Speaker 1: so tight. Do you feel more responsibility? It's very easy
Speaker 1: for a team that just beat a team to be
Speaker 1: flat the next week. That's the history of the league.
Speaker 1: You beat a team, then you have to rally the
Speaker 1: guys and say, yes, we got to play with our
Speaker 1: hair and fire. We can't beat them. Do you feel
Speaker 1: a little bit, Joe, like this is really where leadership
Speaker 1: comes in? Urgency? Go this is everything? No, because our
Speaker 1: guys know how hard of us to beat those guys
Speaker 1: last week, and they're going to be healthier, and we
Speaker 1: know what happened earlier in the year. So you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, these division you got to take all
Speaker 1: these division games as seriously as possible because you we
Speaker 1: know a Baltimore ha on the defensive side of the football,
Speaker 1: and we know that they have on offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. They're a really really good football team that
Speaker 1: you know, wins a lot of football games, and so
Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough challenge for US. Brian Dable,
Speaker 1: Giants coach, who's got actually a lot of rings as
Speaker 1: an assistant or a coordinator, said, playoff experience is overrated.
Speaker 1: Now I look at you last year, you didn't have
Speaker 1: any and you went on the road I think two
Speaker 1: out of three weekends. Where is it a little overrated
Speaker 1: and where is their value in your experience? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's tough to say, because really, once you get into
Speaker 1: the game, every game is the same, and I think
Speaker 1: that's that's how you have to handle it. So I obviously,
Speaker 1: I would say the more reps you have accumulated of something,
Speaker 1: the better you're going to perform. But also, once you
Speaker 1: get in it's it's just another game. It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: on the field like a playoff game, do you no,
Speaker 1: You know, the fans are, it's a little more energetic
Speaker 1: in the crowd, and the atmosphere is always better, but
Speaker 1: you know, once you're out there on the field, you're
Speaker 1: blocking all that out. Anyway, when you look at this
Speaker 1: season where you're at. I think situationally, you're a better
Speaker 1: quarterback than a year ago. That's what it feels like
Speaker 1: to me. I thought your first two years they were rare,
Speaker 1: but you'd have an occasional meltdown the game's fast. Did
Speaker 1: you do you sense like you can sense okay this
Speaker 1: this could be one of these moments. Do you in
Speaker 1: real time ever feel like, Man, a year ago I
Speaker 1: could have melted down there. No, I don't really feel
Speaker 1: like that. I do feel like I've I've drastically improved
Speaker 1: my player this season from from last year, just in
Speaker 1: the totality, and so I'm I'm happy with that, but
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of room to improve as well.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I like where we're at as
Speaker 1: a team and as an offense and as defense, and
Speaker 1: honestly as as a locker room as well. We have
Speaker 1: one of the ties locker rooms I've ever been part of,
Speaker 1: and I really think that's ends up being the key
Speaker 1: to winning. How concerned are you with your offensive line injuries?
Speaker 1: You know, we have guys that we really believe in
Speaker 1: that have played a lot of football, Guys like Max
Speaker 1: and Hakim that you know, I've stepped in these last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. You know, Hakim was our starting right
Speaker 1: guard for the majority of the season last year, and
Speaker 1: Max played a lot of football in this league, and
Speaker 1: so we got we got faith in both of those
Speaker 1: guys to go out and do their jobs. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're I could argue that your college team LSU
Speaker 1: is so sort of iconic Louisiana high school football in
Speaker 1: Ohio State, that your college programs were much more marquis
Speaker 1: than your NFL team. I think it's funny that you're
Speaker 1: considered the first or second best quarterback in this league
Speaker 1: by like people I respect, and yet Buffalo in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: I mean Phil led Delphia. It's like, in a weird way,
Speaker 1: it's a perfect spot in college at Ohio State. You're
Speaker 1: a favorite every week. Yeah, LSU is a favorite. Your
Speaker 1: team just got to the super Bowl, and when I
Speaker 1: pick you number one, I have for five straight weeks.
Speaker 1: People are like, are you crazy? And I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you watching the games? You're like twelve and four? Do
Speaker 1: you feel sometimes even as good as you guys are,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in a division with the Steelers and
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Ravens, these franchises are like Bedrock
Speaker 1: blue Blood. Do you do you still feel a little
Speaker 1: bit like the new kid on the block. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes, but you don't. I don't really don't really
Speaker 1: think in those in those ways, you know. I'm we're
Speaker 1: so focused on the day to day of getting better
Speaker 1: and and interacting with each other and getting the work
Speaker 1: that we need to get done. It. Uh it honestly,
Speaker 1: we don't really talk about it too much. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on home Field being decided by a coin flip? I
Speaker 1: know why, but it's I mean, I guess the NBA
Speaker 1: lottery is a ping pong balls. I mean it's kind
Speaker 1: of odd, right, Yeah, you know, I wasn't you know.
Speaker 1: I understood it. I understood why they did it. I
Speaker 1: just wish that we would have been offered the same
Speaker 1: opportunity for a potential second round matchup for the Bills.
Speaker 1: That we didn't end up getting to play that game,
Speaker 1: you know, through no fault of our own, and it
Speaker 1: should have been canceled. We didn't want to play after
Speaker 1: that happened either, But you know, I think that we
Speaker 1: just weren't afforded some opportunities that other people were. It
Speaker 1: tick you off? I wouldn't say it tick me off.
Speaker 1: We'll play well whatever with with whatever we're dealt. But
Speaker 1: it is what it is. When I go back to
Speaker 1: the Damar Hamlin moment, what really sticks out to me
Speaker 1: is the fear on the players faces. I said this
Speaker 1: on the air. I was skiing a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago, and apparently there was a crash and about
Speaker 1: forty to fifty yards from me, a helicopter flew in
Speaker 1: and they performed CPR. I did not know the person.
Speaker 1: It was forty yards away. It freaked me out. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's a rap. I'm done skiing today. And
Speaker 1: that was somebody I didn't know. As I watched you
Speaker 1: guys watch that, I the composure you had. I mean,
Speaker 1: did Joe, you probably never seen anything like that? Did
Speaker 1: Was it totally unnerving? Yeah, it was a scary emotional moment.
Speaker 1: Witnessing somebody that plays the same game that you do.
Speaker 1: You know, go through a crisis that is life threatening
Speaker 1: and you know, you really take a step back and
Speaker 1: look at what you do and who you do it with,
Speaker 1: and makes you appreciate that and at the same time
Speaker 1: reminds you that that's always possibility. Every Sunday and every
Speaker 1: every Monday and every Saturday that you walk out there.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of discussions were had throughout
Speaker 1: the league privately, you know, with loved ones. I know
Speaker 1: I had, I had some that you know, that moment
Speaker 1: is scary. It can happen, and you know you try
Speaker 1: to try to limit it, but there's not a lot
Speaker 1: you can do. It's a normal football player. That happens
Speaker 1: just about every play of every single game, which is
Speaker 1: what's so scary about it. One of the things I
Speaker 1: said the other day is that I think the five
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. I use this term the
Speaker 1: five guys I wouldn't take a phone call on if
Speaker 1: I was a general manager. You Alan Mahomes, Herbert and
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I love Brady and Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford,
Speaker 1: but they're older. I'd take a phone call if I
Speaker 1: had to. I'm not going to take a phone call
Speaker 1: on you five. To watch you and Josh Allen. It
Speaker 1: was really it was pretty you know, I'm I'm in
Speaker 1: my late fifties, Joe. I love Josh Allen so much.
Speaker 1: I love everything you young guys are about. There was
Speaker 1: a real a moment between you two and here he
Speaker 1: looks like Superman. He's he's bigger than defensive ends. He
Speaker 1: looks like Superman. He was incredibly vulnerable. Do you remember
Speaker 1: that moment when you're right next to him. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was tough. You know, me and Josh are
Speaker 1: friends and and I've known each other for a couple
Speaker 1: of years now, and you know, it was just kind
Speaker 1: of a moment of unity between you know, not just
Speaker 1: two teams, but football players, and you know, we know
Speaker 1: what each individual person means to everyone else in a
Speaker 1: locker room, and to see people going through that was
Speaker 1: you know, it was tough. And you know, everyone in
Speaker 1: our locker room took a step back and said it
Speaker 1: could have been any one of us in that exact
Speaker 1: same situation, and so that's why it really hit everybody
Speaker 1: so hard. I thought the Cincinnati crowd was amazing. I
Speaker 1: thought nobody left utter silence. I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 1: Even the anthem, there's always a guy in the third
Speaker 1: deck drunk, screaming the whole thing. Joe, from the players
Speaker 1: to the coaches to the fans. I've been doing this
Speaker 1: thirty years. I was so blown away. But the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: fans like in an instant, our guy needs help, they're
Speaker 1: a guy needs help. Did you notice any of that
Speaker 1: or were you were you really fixated on Damar? You
Speaker 1: realize that once you take a step back, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a day or two later, and you know, really
Speaker 1: reflect on the situation. It made me very proud to
Speaker 1: live in the community one, be a part of the
Speaker 1: organization to play for Zach three just with and also
Speaker 1: very proud of the medical staff and trainers, doctors you
Speaker 1: know we got unfortunately got to watch them operate and
Speaker 1: you know, they were lights out. So it just made
Speaker 1: me proud to be a part of what we have
Speaker 1: going on here. Yeah, aren't medical people amazing? Aren't they amazing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We had I mean you just those kind of moments,
Speaker 1: you know, you find out what people are made of,
Speaker 1: and the people that were out there on that field
Speaker 1: are badasses. You could probably make an argument, Joe that
Speaker 1: you'll never look You'll never come into a stadium and
Speaker 1: see those medical people the same like to you, do
Speaker 1: you almost view them like like like before they're part
Speaker 1: of the ensemble, they're like heroes now, like do you
Speaker 1: almost look at them differently when you enter a stadium? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. You know, I walked into the training room,
Speaker 1: the training room the next day, and I did look
Speaker 1: at everybody in that room a little differently. You know,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate those guys and girls. I want you
Speaker 1: to go back. Um, I'm going to ask you a
Speaker 1: series of questions about the year. So I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: your favorite Joe Burrow game of the year, not talking statistically,
Speaker 1: but a game you came off the field and you
Speaker 1: were just high. It's like, wow, that felt great at
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh coming off of the bye. You know, we needed
Speaker 1: a big win, and you know, we played really well
Speaker 1: on offense that whole game. It was cold, it was windy.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of adversity in those in those
Speaker 1: AFC North games, and like the Pittsburgh defense does, they
Speaker 1: made plays against us as well. They made it really hard.
Speaker 1: But we, you know, we we played really well that game.
Speaker 1: Was there a play this year or a throw? It
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be a touchdown, but there was
Speaker 1: a play, and you thought, I don't want to be humble.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good, Trout. I was pretty
Speaker 1: proud of my touchdown thow to Jamar against the Browns.
Speaker 1: The second time around a little glance route in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Well, we mean glance route just a little
Speaker 1: a little seven step post, a little seven step post. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was Denzel on him? Who was on him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was Denzel Denzels in my opinion, one of the
Speaker 1: best two corners in the league, by the way, Sauce
Speaker 1: Gardener the other one. He's up there, Patrick's her Tan's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's the best. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: faced him in college. Yeah, he's tough. Yeah. Um, who
Speaker 1: is the best team you played when you felt like
Speaker 1: you This is a go either way, because your your
Speaker 1: last three months you were pretty impenetrable. Best team you played.
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough because every game is so unique.
Speaker 1: You know, every game can go in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: We played a lot of tough teams this year, and
Speaker 1: each one presents its own unique challenge, which you know,
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of good teams and each one
Speaker 1: presents its own challenge. So it's hard to say, give
Speaker 1: me a moment this year that you did something that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been able to do two years ago.
Speaker 1: You know, there are a couple of throws in the
Speaker 1: new England game that I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: make a couple of years ago. Just no, my mechanics
Speaker 1: and my flow work have improved so much in the
Speaker 1: pocket that you know, I was able to make some
Speaker 1: of those throws just in the cold in New England.
Speaker 1: Those throws are tough, and so I was part of those.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever I criticize an athlete, I always think
Speaker 1: he's sitting next to me. So I try to be fair,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll talk about arm strength, and I think,
Speaker 1: what if the quarterbacks talked about my voice strength? Coward's
Speaker 1: voice it's like top six, it's not it's not elite.
Speaker 1: And the other day I was saying, yeah, I like
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's arm. I mean, it's not Mahomes. And then
Speaker 1: I thought a lot if Joe was sitting there, he'd
Speaker 1: probably like this pretty good arm. You ever think, because
Speaker 1: everybody always talks about your accuracy and you're intellect and
Speaker 1: you're tough, do you ever think, hey, I got a
Speaker 1: good arm here people, hello, good arm? Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: I could make a lot of throws that people wouldn't
Speaker 1: expect of me. But my arm strength isn't on the
Speaker 1: level of Patrick and Josh. Those guys are on another
Speaker 1: level as far as that goes. Yeah, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything quite like Josh with you. Yeah that was poor White.
Speaker 1: I can't. I didn't. I didn't get to see him
Speaker 1: much in college. I saw him play twice. I saw
Speaker 1: him jump over a linebacker and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that looks good. I don't see a lot of that.
Speaker 1: He's still doing that, by the way. Um so here
Speaker 1: you go. It's Baltimore. I would guess they know your tendencies.
Speaker 1: You know, there's will Zach give you a little more
Speaker 1: freedom because you faced them so many times? Now? Will
Speaker 1: Zach give you a little more freedom of choice maybe
Speaker 1: in a big spot in this game. Is that how
Speaker 1: it works or not? No? You know I have I
Speaker 1: have that freedom every play of every game. So if
Speaker 1: I if I see something out there, I can I
Speaker 1: can go out there and do what we need to
Speaker 1: do to feel like we got to execute. So you know,
Speaker 1: you don't really change that game to game. Do you
Speaker 1: look back at last year, this improbable run, and I
Speaker 1: think you're a better team. That's how I feel. I
Speaker 1: just feel like everything's a little tighter. Your O line
Speaker 1: is a little tighter. Beyond winning games. If you could say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: here's the one thing I wouldn't do that I did
Speaker 1: last year, even though you were a player from winning
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It could be prep, it could be travel.
Speaker 1: Is there a gem you take from the experience last
Speaker 1: year into this year? You know, I think I think
Speaker 1: it's tough to pinpoint one. Um. You know, we know
Speaker 1: what it takes to get to the super Bowl. As
Speaker 1: far as body maintenance, you know, it's it's a really
Speaker 1: long season. Last year was my first full season, and
Speaker 1: you know, we played as far as we could, and
Speaker 1: so I really learned how to manage my body through
Speaker 1: those you know, last five or six weeks when your
Speaker 1: body's breaking down and you got to find a way
Speaker 1: to maintain your strength to to compete those last five weeks.
Speaker 1: And so I think that would probably be number one
Speaker 1: on the list. Did you lift today? Yeah? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: long do you lift? About? An hour? Oh? By yourself? Trainer,
Speaker 1: teammate with our with our strength coach Joey just with you. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: Everybody backs bench dead lists. Everybody kind of has their
Speaker 1: own routine in there, and so you know, we have
Speaker 1: what I love about our coaches, they give us a
Speaker 1: lot of freedom to you know, go about our routines.
Speaker 1: And as long as you get your work in, you
Speaker 1: get your work in. And so there's always guys in
Speaker 1: the way room getting their stuff done, going through their
Speaker 1: maintenance on their body to rehab. And we have we
Speaker 1: have mature guys like that. You feel good today, physically
Speaker 1: great today. There you go, Joe, it's great talking again.
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