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I was riding 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: petticab bikes and that was my little side job in college. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: And one day the guy I was on the back 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: of my bike at the time, I didn't know he was. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: He was astrim cut for the Texans and told me 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: to come watch and work out. So I did. That's 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: when I had that I said, Okay, I probably I 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: think I could do this, And then twelve years lady 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: give me the opportunity. Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Post NFL Combined Edition. I'm Tatum Everett here with Gabe Henderson, 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: back from Indie. We're currently inside TCO Radio Studios, happy 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: to be home after the week. Jay Nelson off this 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: week and we had producer Eric Davidson creating the magic 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: yet again. But guys, it is this time, at that 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: time of year when the roster starts to see some changes. 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: We saw that happen this week. Free agency officially doesn't 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: start until March fifteenth, but teams are getting primed and 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: ready for that day. And Gabe, we saw the first 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: tough decision this front office had to make when it 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: came to terminating Eric Kendricks's contract. That's the business. I 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: think Ben Leeber he summed it up perfectly. And it's 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: like first three seconds of his reaction video that's some 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: one Vikings dot Com right now, and it's like, ah, 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: like the terrible nature of this business. But we get it. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: And I respect this move by Quacy and Kevin simply 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: because they cut him earlier into the offseason versus later. 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: So now Eric has an opportunity to go find a team, 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: He has an opportunity to go build a new home, 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: and I mean he has a family that he's growing. 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: So for the human aspect, I that when it comes 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: to the business, I respect that also because you know, 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings they got to save money. We're over the capito. Yeah, 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: and instead of you know, telling some guy, hey take 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: less money this year, look, we're gonna cut you now. 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: You can probably make the same amount of money somewhere else, 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and you can probably go play for another contender. So 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: just unfortunate. Eric's played eight years here. He's probably gonna 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: be a Vikings Ring of Honor type of guy, top 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: five and tackles in team history. Just the accolades that 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: he possessed on the field doesn't even match the ones 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: he possessed off the field. Yeah, such a big impact 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: guy for this community. Huge and just from you know, 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the first year that I got here in twenty twenty, 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: when you know the pandemic hit and you know, social 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: justice and everything that the Vikings were putting their efforts behind. 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks and Anthony Harris, who's on the Philadelphia Eagles 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: right now, And those are the two guys that came 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: to mind when it came to you know, leading that 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: that pack of Hey, this is what we need to do. 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: This is what the Minnesota Vikings stand for. We're losing 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: a great leader on the field, but also a great 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: leader off the field. I mean, I don't think I 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: could say it any better that he was just one 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: of the really great guys on the team. And I 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: think really contributed and set the tone for this defense 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: inside the locker room. But like you mentioned, the Vikings 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: entered free agency twenty four million dollars over the cap 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Kendricks freeze of about nine and a half million, so 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: there's still some work left to be done, but that 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: is the nature of the business. Eric Kendricks will most 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: certainly be missed, and if you want to see some 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: of his best of it is online right now. I 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: think everything was done really beautifully. If you saw his post, 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: he had a nice post about how he loves the 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: game so much and just gives it as all every 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: single time, and I think that's very true when it 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: comes to him as a person and him as a player. 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: There's really nothing else I think I can echo other 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: than that we're going to miss him around here for sure. 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I think he was always like one of the more 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: fun guys, had a great sense of humor, always open 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: to talking with the media. One of our best audible 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: interviews with Eric this fast year. He was great. They 81 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: were like they were all part of the media. I 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: felt like when they were Yeah, Jordan, I know, Jordan 83 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Hicks will probably miss the guy. But you know, it's 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: interesting because I think I think back to that interview 85 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: though when he was released. I thought back to how 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: he talked about the linebackers and how he's kind of 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: more of an undersized linebacker. He's very uses his brain 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: more than anything when it comes to his position. And 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: then I think of what Brian Flores is going to 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: implement here, and I think it's almost a it's a 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: cap space victim, but it's also maybe a new scheme, 92 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: like a like a casualty of a new scheme being implemented. Yeah, 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: I think we last year was Eric's first time ever 94 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: playing in a three four defense, and yeah, it probably 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: wasn't his greatest year. But at the same time, this 96 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: is the defense that's going to be the future of 97 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. And now you have a guy and 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Brian Asamoa who came from that. He's got a year 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: into it. He's a first year guy. We saw a promise. 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Now that only makes the opportunity for greatness for Brian 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: to just be that much more higher. So I'm excited 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: just to see how that continues to develop. I guess 103 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: his trajectory. But at the same time, um, this is 104 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: a new look defense and I'm excited to see how 105 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, you know, gets the guys going. Um, I 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: don't know a better way or a wittier way to 107 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: say that, but this is, you know, next man up, 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: and Brian Asimol is that next man up. He had 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: a huge respect level for for Eric and it's just 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: a part of the game. So I'm I'm excited to 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: see who's going to be that next guy, who were 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: who were going to be some of those young guys, 113 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: or is there going to be a free agent rebringing 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: here that kind of fits this style and this scheme 115 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: that can kind of help bring this Flores defense to 116 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: life and you know, move us from the thirty first 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: overall defense so hopefully a top twenty. I mean, I 118 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: don't want to say you could only go up from there, 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: because technically you could go down once. But but yeah, 120 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's gonna be really interesting to see. 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I know that from an inside the facility perspective. I 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: don't think anyone has seen Quacy for a few days 123 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: now because they are just in non stop meetings and 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: big decisions and talks are being made right now behind 125 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: the scenes, and obviously more will happen as we hit 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: March fifteenth deadline. But speaking of that free agency, I 127 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: think it's been pretty interesting week when it comes to 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: watching how the chips of the NFL fall as far 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: as free agency. And I think the biggest story probably 130 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: of this week so far has been the Ravens giving 131 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that non exclusive franchise tags. I feel like 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: you have some strong thoughts on this. I do, honestly, 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: that still is like number one. Like Aaron Rodgers is 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: like a close well, because there's just not enough info 135 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: on that one giving permission. They gave him permission to 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: talk to the Jets. But what I think I would 137 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: if I was the Packers as well. I mean, even 138 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: what Aaron Jones said something on Good Morning Football this week. 139 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: They basically say, you know, if Aaron Rodgers goes anywhere else, 140 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: is going to be the Jets. So you know, okay. 141 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I had this argument with one another employee and I 142 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: was like, it's going to be the Jets. Oh, I'm 143 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: not trying toot my own horn here. Just was months 144 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: ago and I was like, it's going to be the Jets. Guys. 145 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: They only need a quarterback and when only And the 146 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: thing is, if it wasn't for Nathaniel Hackett going there. 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't see Aaron Rodgers going there. So the fact 148 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: that you know, Nathaniel Hackett got fired in his first 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: year as a head coach. Did he finish the year? 150 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Did he? No, he did not finish the season, Now 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: it says a lot. But oh yeah. I texted that 152 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: person and I was like, Higg to Jets, just say it. 153 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: It's like it makes sense, Like that's the only move 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I guess the Raiders also, but yeah, 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that like the Jets. I mean, we talked about it 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: earlier this year. The Jets will be the best team 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: in the AFC if they get a quarterback, Like they 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: don't even need Aaron Rodgers. But if they do get 159 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like, I just hope he's not gonna be 160 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: nicer to those young receivers. But Lamar Jackson like that, 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: that is um. I mean, clearly the Baltimore Ravens and 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Lamar are on two different pages. I have. I do 163 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: have strong thoughts about it that probably isn't suitable for 164 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: this podcast. But at the same time, though it come on, 165 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I just don't understand how teams are saying they're out 166 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: on a guy like Lamar. That has been very interesting, right. 167 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: It's not even the fact that they put the franchise 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: tag on Lamar. It's been the like I'm out, like 169 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: stockings him out or like something something's fishy, right, Like, granted, 170 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you have to change your entire offense for a guy 171 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson, but he's proven to be a winner 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: if you put the right pieces around him and if 173 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you have a decent like Lamar has never really had 174 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: a receiver like Markis Marquis Brown. He was with the 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals right now. He was his only deep threat 176 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: like love. He loved the tight end that's Andrews. Like, 177 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: so I'm interested to see how that works for me. 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I think Atlanta will make. Atlanta makes the most sense. 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: They said they're out, though the reports say they're out. Yeah. 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: That offense, though, is not too dissimilar. I mean, right, 181 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: you have you're trying to build around what Marcus Mariota 182 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: or Desmond ritterd like. They're both mobile guys with half 183 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: the talent of Karl Jackson. Kyle Pitts is your tight end, 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that's true, and he's a six six receiver. Should be 185 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: much should be would be really bad. I'm much better 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: with a better quarterback exactly. So I'm I'm interesting to 187 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: see how how that's gonna go. Clearly, what we read 188 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: that the Ravens and Lamar or one hundred million dollars 189 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: off as far as like guaranteed money. So hey, like 190 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: our upcoming interview Marquis Johnson, better on yourself and believing yourself, 191 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: And I guess that's what Lamar Jackson is doing right now. 192 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: And I praise anybody that's doing that. So hopefully he 193 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: gets his money and I guess more importantly gets the 194 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to be that guy. Well that's the thing too, 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Like he's representing himself, which I don't think it's a negative, 196 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: but it's definitely something that you know, I I wonder 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: traditional I wonder if people or front office is uncomfortable 198 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: with who knows. Yeah, I'm just speaking from nowhere of Actually, 199 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I think his mom represents him, and his mom actually 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: like work for an agency firm or work with an 201 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: agency firm, but like she doesn't really have like the 202 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: actual precidentials quote unquote, but she's knowledgeable enough to be 203 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: able to represent him and negotiate on his behalf. So 204 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: to your point, of like, yeah, it's it's untraditional, but 205 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, she knows that she's talking about. Yeah, 206 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that would count him out. No, but 207 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: they're also like I think part of the wanting that 208 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. I do think that obviously they're trying to 209 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: follow like the Deshaun Watson and he wants that right However, 210 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: like you shot teams like, way, what got all that money? No, 211 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: he shouldn't know. No one agrees with that at all. 212 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: But I think you look at what they've Like the 213 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: three major quarterbacks who are reaching deals this offseason, you know, Smith, 214 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, they all have some serious guarantees right, 215 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Like Smith is one hundred and five excuse me, it's 216 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: forty million guarantee. Jones is one hundred and sixty million. 217 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: I think total for his deal. Car is one hundred 218 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: million in total guarantees. Like, they're throwing some serious guaranteed 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: money out there. So to me, I'm like, if I'm Lamar, yeah, 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: i'd want that too, because I'm better than all three 221 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: of these guys. Look at my record, look at my 222 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: playoff records, right, Like I have more regular season isn't 223 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: Lamar like the he has like the most wins, Like 224 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: he has the most wins for his age and Navy 225 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. So it's like, dude, give me 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: two hundred million guaranteed. Well, I don't know, I don't know. 227 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: If I don't know, I don't know. I mean get 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: one hundred if one hundred and fifty, so what I 229 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: mean has I don't think Daniel Jones is guaranteed money 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: has come out yet. His guarantee money has not come 231 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: out yet, but he has thirty five million in incentive, 232 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: so he can get one hundred and ninety five million dollars, 233 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: which means he's probably going to get one hundred and 234 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: at least one hundred and twenty guaranteed. Yeah, yeah, yeah probably. 235 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: So I'm just like Daniel Jones though, Like Daniel Jones, 236 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? He had a good season, 237 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: You got a lot of mark who would you? What 238 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: would you do? They don't have a high enough draft 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: pick to get someone they got count on these quarterbacks. 240 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't I don't really know enough 241 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: about the Giants. They're trying to recreate this season, right, 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: like Tag Barkley bring back Jones. If this works, yeah, great, 243 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: you gotta. I mean, that's that's my thing about players 244 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: getting all this money, right, Like I respect it, Like 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I think everybody needs to everybody to deserve the money 246 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: that they get. But it's hard to get all that 247 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: money and then still build a team around the players 248 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: with the money, Like you have to find other pieces 249 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: of the puzzle to put in place to be able 250 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: to win. And I don't know enough about the Giants, 251 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: but giving one hundred ninety five million, possibly one hundred 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: and ninety five millions to Daniel Jones, like where else 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: do you fund that money to build a team around 254 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: that organis why we are not NFL general managers. That 255 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: is very but but you're right though, like you see 256 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: one team making a move like that, and it just 257 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of tips the scales for everyone else. So you know, 258 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: you've got Christian Kirk with that massive deal last year, 259 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: so that's only going to make JJ's deal here that 260 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: much more larger. And then he actually deserves a big, 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: huge deal like that. So not that Christian Kirk didn't, 262 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: but maybe not to the magnitude of what JJ would 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: get or want. And so yeah, I mean, I think 264 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: that's it's an interesting league. It's an interesting puzzle to 265 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: put together. I do not envy the people in the 266 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: front offices try to figure all that out. No, But 267 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: like I mean respect to all these guys getting their money, 268 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Like for sure, they now have an opportunity to make 269 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: their families better, make their family provide for you know, 270 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: generational wealth. So whether you know, I agree or not 271 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: to the number sign, I'm happy for them, just from 272 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: my personal side, And I thought it was pretty interesting 273 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: in this first week two. I thought, obviously quarterbacks and 274 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: guaranteed money following that saga was my number one. My 275 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: number two storyline was the amount of running backs and 276 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: franchise tags. Yeah, that we're happening. Um, you know, we 277 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: talk so much about how that position is just devalued 278 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: over the years because of the ability to stay healthy 279 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: in the league. How it's just become this passing league. 280 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: So like the money now it kind of flows the 281 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: other way. And it's really interesting to see, like we 282 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: want these really good guys, but we're not really willing 283 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: to pay them just yet. So I will do the 284 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: tag once or twice and call it a day. I 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: hate to say only when describing what I'm about to say, 286 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: but it's only ten million, right, like for like that's 287 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money. But at the same time, when 288 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: you look at like how much quarterbacks are, like those 289 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: franchise steaks, like ten million for our running back, Like 290 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: that's you could do that for one year. So Saquon 291 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Barkley with the Giants and Tony Pollo with the Cowboys, 292 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's good money for a running back. But 293 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: still and then then they franchise tag Josh Jacobs. They 294 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: don't sign him in the last year. Yeah, so he's 295 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: literally the only person who made the Raiders any good. 296 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Let the league of rushing last year. I mean, I 297 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: know Devon TAM's was good, but like it wasn't and 298 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: didn't I have feelings about that because like you you 299 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: think about their health, Like do you think about like 300 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: how many seasons is Josh Jacob's going to be able 301 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: to perform at that level. I'll put it this way. 302 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I understand because you said running back because the Giants 303 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: are trying to, you know, basically recreate what they did 304 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: last year. That was what it seems like. That's what 305 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: it seems like. But I think the Raiders franchise tagging 306 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs makes more sense because they have all the 307 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: pieces of the postle together. Everybody was just injured at 308 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: different times and now the only thing they're missing is 309 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: just a legit quarterback. And okay, that's I was. I 310 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: gave you a face, so I was like, wait, I 311 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: thought that they don't have a quarterback. Well, they didn't 312 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: have a quarterback the last five games of these season 313 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: last you're reading. But I know what you're saying because 314 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is the same now and they are. I 315 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: would say they're they're in prime position to sign a 316 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: big time quarterback. Like that's that's an attractive market for sure. 317 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Why not bring the NFL's leading rusher back. You got 318 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, Hunter, Renfro, Darren Waller, Oh yeah, really good 319 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: old line Chandler Jones, Max Crosby, like you, you have 320 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the pieces there. Me and my guy from the Raiders 321 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: joke all the time about it, like the Raiders are 322 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings, they're the Vikings of the AFC. You got 323 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: all the pieces, but you just got to have the 324 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: right year to put it all together. So we'll see, 325 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: we'll see. Well, you bring up the Vikings once more, 326 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: and we're going to bring in the assistant strength and 327 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: conditioning coach Marquis Johnson, as you alluded to in just 328 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: a second, he got back from the combine, Gabe, you 329 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: got to talk to him just about his journey in 330 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: the NFL and how he got here. I think it's 331 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: probably just a super insightful conversation that really takes you 332 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: behind the curtain of like the whole other facet of 333 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the game other than like the plays and what's on 334 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the field and fundamentals, because like strength and conditioning is 335 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: just so much of what these guys do, not just 336 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: in the season. Yeah, Like everything starts in the way room. 337 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: So I just like even I mean college, NFL, high school, 338 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: but especially college, like you spend more time with strength 339 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: coaches than you do with your actual coaches. And in 340 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: the NFL that's heightened even more so the relationships that Marquise, 341 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: Derek Keys, Josh Tinks that entire just strength staff pluses 342 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Williams and Uriah and everybody from the athletic training 343 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: side that the relationships they build with these players go 344 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: a long way. Because when these guys get get away 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: from home, they're here at six am, and the first 346 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: people they see are Marquise Johnson's of the world. So Marquis, 347 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: it was great talking to him, and hopefully Vikings fans 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: enjoy it. He's a great guy. In my opinion. I 349 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be ahead strength and conditioning coach, whether 350 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: that's here for the Vikings or somewhere else in the NFL. 351 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: And really unique story. So hopefully Vikings fans enjoy One 352 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: thing I really like about Marquis is his dedication to running. 353 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: He's a great follow on Instagram, and he is out 354 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: there in like negative temperatures. He's out there in the 355 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: teens with like ice and his beard and he is 356 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: out there running. And I'm like, I mean, more power 357 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: to you, because I don't even like to go outside. 358 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: What it's called. Yeah, but like I'm just and this 359 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: is a kid from Texas. Yeah, yeah, so impressive. I 360 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: remember what game was this because I've played basketball with 361 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: Marquise before and it was before. It was sometime this summer. 362 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: Markus was like, man, I'm about to start this new thing. 363 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about. It's like before 364 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: every single role game, what every city we go to. 365 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wake up at seven am and just run 366 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: the city, like run downtown and just first off, get 367 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: Cardio in, but to get a fill of the city. 368 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I have never ran with him. He's done it. He's 369 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: done it. He does it every single week. So whenever 370 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: we go for breakfast, like Marquise is like we're walking 371 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: out of the hotel, Marquis is walking in like huffing 372 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: in Green Bay last year. Yeah, but I mean he's 373 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: a he's a dedicated guy, and like, I mean, I 374 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: know some people might say, like, you know, he's crazy, 375 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: but sometimes as a strength coach, you need a crazy 376 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: guy that really that really cares about the body for 377 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: you to believe. It's just like you know, for a 378 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: normal human being, it's like dude, like, yeah, I'm only 379 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: working out twice this week. I mean no, you get 380 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: to take a point though, because I feel like they 381 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: are kind of always the most intense. Yeah, like eccentric personalities, hypeman, 382 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: Like that's that's kind of like their m you gotta 383 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: be yeah in that case, like he like, there has 384 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: to be something different about you to make someone like 385 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: us believe in you. So hopefully, like I said, hopefully, 386 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: Vikings fans enjoy he's a really good, really gay human being. 387 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: But more importantly he's better at his your job more importantly, 388 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah, well then let's stop, you know, hype 389 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: it up, Marquise, and let's get to that interview with you, Gabe. 390 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: All right, now we bring in our podcast guest friend 391 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: of the show, friend of the Minnesota Vikings and assistant 392 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach from the Minnesota Vikings, mister Marquise Johnson. Marquise, 393 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me. First things first, when we walked 394 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: in here, we were talking about just last week, how 395 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: how much of a grind the NFL combine is, But 396 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's rewarding for a lot of 397 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. For you. What they last 398 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: week's NFL combine mean for you last week NFL come 399 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: out was great for me. Being able to work the 400 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: bench press is almost like a dream come true type 401 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: deal that came out randomly thanks to a guy get 402 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: a chance to work with every day there. Keys asked 403 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: me a few years ago, they know I want to work, 404 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: and I said sure, and then I didn't think really 405 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: nothing of it. Then next day I wake up to 406 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: a text, I, hey come down here and working and 407 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: they see no, they started telling giving out the different 408 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: responsibilities and duties or whatnot. And Josh Hinks, who ironically 409 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: that's how I met him, was through that. So he's like, Hey, 410 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be counting. I'm gonna be setting standard 411 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: forward and you're gonna be sparing. So I was like, 412 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: oh wow, here I go live and direct. Let's get it. 413 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: And then it was fun. Been fun ever since then. 414 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: I guess I did a decent enough job. He asked 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: me to come back do it every day so since then, 416 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: so it's been pretty fun. But to come by and 417 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: it's a great experience just to see friends from around 418 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: the league, different guys you work with, different places, and 419 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: it's really cool for me to experience it with my 420 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: little brother who I got a chance to work with 421 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: here last year as assistant quarterback coach here and now 422 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: he's moved on to Houston Texans or whatnot. But feels 423 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: for me and him just to hang out and do 424 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: something that we saw on TV miles and miles away 425 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: in the cover our and our mother's home, in our 426 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: dad's home in Houston, Texas and Oble Texas. Make sure 427 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: be politically correct with Zach Well from but just to 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: watch it live and direct, you know, and then interact 429 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: with the coaches and the players and stuff like that. 430 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: They different kids I've seen through some of my college 431 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: stops or whatnot. To see them guys what it was 432 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: as a freshman and sophomore in college to see them 433 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: trying to live out their dreams and be the next 434 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: face of the field. It's some team that's awesome. Man. 435 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: And for Vikings fans who don't know what Marquis is 436 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: talking about about the bench press, whenever you see guys 437 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: working out at the combine doing as many reps as 438 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: they can on the bench press, there's a guy that's 439 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: spotting them in the back, slapping them on their chests, clapping, 440 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: making sure everybody's hype. That guy is Marquise Johnson, the 441 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: guy that we're talking to right now. And you do 442 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. That's a great story about Josh Hinks 443 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: how you met him through the combine and I didn't 444 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: know that personally. And seeing you know, how Josh is 445 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, transcend to being the head strength 446 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: and conditioning coach here from the Minnesota Vikings, it shows 447 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: that all this is all four circle definitely, And I 448 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: know you talked about your brother, Um Gerard Johnson. He 449 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: was an assistant quarterbacks coach here and now he's with 450 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. You watched him, you guys were watching 451 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: the combine, like you said, growing up for him. What 452 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: did last year mean for you being able to work 453 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: with him here with the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, it's a blessing. 454 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: You know. Football separated our family in so many different ways, 455 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: in a great in a good way because he's doing 456 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: his own thing and I'm doing mine. For us collectively 457 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: come together and work in the NFL together is beyond 458 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: our wildest imagination. So it was definitely something we could. 459 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: I'd never forget and missing, definitely missing around even though 460 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: it's only been a couple of weeks. Yeah, I think 461 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: we're all happy for him too, just being able to 462 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: elevate his career. We understand his journey. Bill Walsh he 463 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: started as the Bill with the Bill Walsh found. Can 464 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: you correct me on that? Oh, no, you're exactly right. 465 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: He had to definitely had an internship thanks to my 466 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: man Ray Wright, who's a strip coach of time I 467 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: worked for the forty nineties. Came into office one day 468 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: say hey, man, I'm gonna throw your brother's name in 469 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: the half of this internship and to see him work 470 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: with Demiko then and get induced to Demiko and a 471 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: lot of other guys that Demko brought with him from 472 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers to the Texans. See my brother 473 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: get the opportunity, especially in our hometown. My brother's gonna 474 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: be a new dad next month, so it's a definitely, 475 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: definitely blessing for him and foul family. Yeah, that's you. 476 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Never you never take moments like that for granted. And 477 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: this is just another huge opportunity for you as you 478 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: excelling your career. And with the Minnesota Vikings going thirteen 479 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: and three last year, we all know it starts in 480 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: the weight room. Every single day. You're waking up early, 481 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: making sure the guys are prepared for you, being able 482 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: to see the transition of guys that come in here 483 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: a year one and then I guess year two or 484 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: year three. How gratifying is that to see some of 485 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: those guys buying to the weight room and not pay 486 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: off in the field. It's a beautiful thing. I think 487 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: we have great culture around in our weight room, in 488 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: around our building. Guys like coming in there, I think 489 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: we said a Josh in myself, their Keys, Dan and 490 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: whoever else that we haven't that come to our room. 491 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: We said, a culture with them, guys can beat themselves 492 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: and they we said, we talked to those guys about 493 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: whether they at is not like the old college Rai 494 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Roi ry Man. We talked to those guys all the 495 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: time about where they are and we try to meet 496 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: those guys. We have a standard and it's about development 497 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: relationships and developed laship each and every player in our 498 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: own special ways to get the most out of those guys, 499 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: and those guys buy into us as well. And I 500 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: feel like, I mean, we've had Derek keys on before, 501 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: we had them on last year and he one thing 502 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: he talked about those relationships and the longer way you 503 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: build those relationships and you know, a longer way starting 504 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: in high school to college to you know, being with 505 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: other professional organizations in the NFL. How has your journey 506 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: prepared you for where you are right now? My journey 507 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: has been a wild one, but it's been a blessing 508 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: in disguise. You know, I got my start in the 509 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: NFL by riding petticab bikes. Like people don't realize that 510 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: you know you probably see them. I know you see 511 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: them out side of our statum when the weather is 512 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: nice whatnot. But you see the big tricycles with the 513 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: person driving, and you asked me for a rod. That's 514 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: how I met the guy that put me in the league. 515 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: First of all, So I was in college that I 516 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: played football at a small black college, Provanda University. I'm 517 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: a very proud graduate of. And throughout that I met 518 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: I was riding petticab bikes and that was my little 519 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: side job in college. And one day the guy hops 520 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: on the back of my bike. At the time, I 521 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was. He was a hair string 522 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: coller for the Texans and told me come come watching workout. 523 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: So I did, and that's when I had that I said, Okay, 524 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: I probably I think I could do this. And then 525 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: twelve years later he give me the opportunity. So that's 526 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: that's how I got in the league first of all. 527 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: But it's been it's been a wild journey, but just 528 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: development relationship with just different players, understanding understand coachurally with guys, 529 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: are being able to relate to guys no matter what 530 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: raised creed where they come from. In the country and 531 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: not just coming into it very aggressive as like a 532 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: yellow scream and all that. Just I feel like if 533 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: you understand where guy's coming from and get the new 534 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: a guy's family is, if he has a girlfriend, wife, kids, 535 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: Music is the biggest thing. I feel like a culture 536 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: driver because we all listen to different musics, three of 537 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: us in this room right now, and we all live 538 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: different things when we work out or riding our cars 539 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: or whatnot. But if you understand the artist or just 540 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: be open minded to different music of a different player 541 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: that have a different attitude towards you instead. A lot 542 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: of times in different weight rooms that I've worked in, 543 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: music is almost like it's something else where guys go 544 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: guys go crazy if you like make him listen to 545 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: something that they're not fund or listen to. And a 546 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: lot of strength coaches, I feel like they just solve 547 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: a lot of problems if they just open up their 548 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: ears and just relax. It's not about them. It's about 549 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: the players. It's about the player, and that just cause 550 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: of develouration with them, guys just talking to them about 551 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: different things other than just sets reps in football, just 552 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: life and things of that nature. What do you like 553 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: to eat it out here in twin cities? What do 554 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: you like to eat their different cities where you've been, 555 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: What do you like? What does your wife like to make? 556 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: What do your mom like to make? Different food? Music, 557 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: just getting into a guy, and I think they'll run 558 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: through a waffle once they get to know you, coach guy, 559 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: have you on after that? And I think another another 560 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: layer from from from my standpoint, another layer of I 561 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: guess relationship building for y'all this when you go into 562 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings weight room, there's there's TVs everywhere, and 563 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: on some of the TVs there's like you know pr 564 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: stats or you know this guy this game, he ran 565 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty one miles per hour. But beside their stats, it's 566 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: like a picture of their their high school or middle 567 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: school portrait of whatever they were doing. So, for example, 568 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: like Brian O'Neill, it's like a picture of him playing 569 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: basketball in high school. Like you guys, I feel like 570 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: you guys like to have fun with it too, right, 571 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: definitely like to have fun with it. I think Dan 572 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: does a great job of putting those pictures up of 573 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: some of these guys come in and laugh at you 574 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: know what they may have fun with you know what 575 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean. With the social media are right now and 576 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: the Google's of the world, you can find almost a 577 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: picture of any and everybody from its way back when, 578 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: because everybody has that mom, grandma, uncle, somebody that's posting 579 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: someone Facebook and Google gonna find it for you. So 580 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: we always we like to have fun with that, and 581 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: it's definitely just away and keeping it light and keeping 582 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: it fun with those guys and also highlighting what they've done. 583 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: And we put some of the highlights from different games 584 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that and those guys so they can 585 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: see themselves and believe in themselves, because we don't want to. 586 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: We want the most confident guy to be as as 587 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: confident as he can be to go out there and 588 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: keep winning the games. Keys who believed in you Me, 589 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: I believed in me, My coaches, Shout out to them 590 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: and prayer of view. Mike Surgeon that gave my first start. 591 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: Shout out to Ray Wright, he was their strength coach 592 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: night as a guy that again a man that I 593 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: met on the bike. He believed in me. And appreciate 594 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: Josh Cheaks for bringing me here. But like for the 595 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: most part, I feel like I believed in myself to 596 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: believe I can do it, even though because I didn't 597 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: have I didn't know an NFL coach as a kid. 598 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: My father was a coach and he definitely believed in 599 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: me as a player whatnot. But that's who, That's where 600 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: my foundation comes from. A lot of my coaches, especially 601 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: my college coaches. Those they were awesome. Coach Brandon, he 602 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: refresher gating my opportunity to play college football at Prayer 603 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: of View. I can't thank him enough. But those those 604 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: are the people that believed in me. My brother, you 605 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: know when like things didn't look like we didn't see it. 606 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't have like like I didn't have 607 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: this figurehead as I didn't google a bunch of coaches. 608 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I won't lie about that. I didn't google a bunch 609 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: of people say oh I know this NFL strength coach. 610 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: That man, I just pray and I live around work 611 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: and just go to Good Lord sent me straight up. Now, 612 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I respect that. And I know you said just from 613 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: understanding that someone believed in you, it kind of helped 614 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: you start believing in yourself. When when did that moment 615 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: come for you that you could that you finally realize 616 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: that Okay, I could, I could possibly be a legit assistant. 617 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Eventually had strength coach in the NFL. I think that 618 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: came the moment that I walked into the Texans waight 619 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: room where when I just went there to watch Ray 620 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: when he was doing this thing, I'm like, Okay. Then 621 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I watched how Ray moved with the way he created 622 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: a coaching there with different music, Like it would be 623 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: things that he will play like gospel in the morning 624 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: for certain guys on certain days he'll play like certain 625 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: he'd touch everybody with its almost It reminded me very 626 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: very similar to like a DJ of like in a 627 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: in a certain club or a party or whatnot. So 628 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: when they touched different people, so you might touch you 629 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: hit the country weston a little bit, you might, you 630 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: might hit a little rab, might hit a little rock. 631 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: You just get and then once you see the face 632 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: of everybody with the different kind of music, you see 633 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: the face and everybody's energy go up. So that kind 634 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: of helped me see myself because I saw a lot 635 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: of what he did in myself and his a lot 636 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: of his character. That's that's awesome. And I think the 637 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: first time I ever, you know, even heard of you, 638 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: I was. I think it was Jackson States. They were 639 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: doing the documentary and there's a clip that that surface 640 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: online of I guess Mike Zimmer calling coach Prime Deon 641 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Sanders before I'm not even gonna describe that, just talk 642 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: about how you got to Minnesota. That that journey from 643 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: being at Jackson State working with Dion Sanders, who you know, 644 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: coach Prime. He's the biggest thing on social media right 645 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: now to you being I guess the one selected to 646 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: come to the Minnesota Vikings, and that was wild. Guy 647 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: called me. One of his best friends at the time 648 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, Dion looking for a strength coach. 649 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: So I go. I was like a lot of people, 650 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I say, man, it's the 651 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: saying as he called me when he was supposed to 652 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: call me the first time, I'm sitting by the phone 653 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: almost like a little kid, like falling asleep by the phone, 654 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Like wait, then he really called me. I was like, Oh, 655 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: this this really happening. So I went out there. It 656 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: was a blessing in disguise. Man, it was awesome. Dun's 657 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: great again. He allowed me to be myself and just 658 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: for him to get that call, I knew like I said, 659 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I met Josh, had to come by all the night 660 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: and then nights on the cake was him knowing at 661 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: the time because Zimmerman and then Dun just blowing it 662 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: up and he was he was awesome man. Deon is great, 663 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: great man, great man of character, great man of God 664 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: and everything about him. I enjoyed working for him the 665 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: little short time I did. I learned a lot, learned 666 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: about how how to treat people, how to be layer 667 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: of people. And Dion was great man. He gave me 668 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to work for him and out forever be 669 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: grateful to him. And that call from was who was 670 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: in Mike zimmer that the video that went, Yeah, so 671 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: the video that went it's on it's on this. I 672 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: think he's on his first season the second episode or whatnot. 673 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: You can see Hi High pretty became a Viking, and 674 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: I guess he called he called d N a d 675 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: N called him or whatnot. They had a conversation that 676 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: DN called me right in his office. And this is 677 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: at time I was in limbo, like I don't know 678 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: if this really it's happening. I interviewed or whatnot. And 679 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: then Dan gave me he was like he's they gonna hi. 680 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: He's like, man, you're gonna be going down there. He's liked, 681 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: you did a great job here. I hate to lose you, 682 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: but represent us well and represent yourself and your family. 683 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: You did a great job. And I couldn't believe it. Man, 684 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm going on your three and I can't wait. That's 685 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: year three already, your three is about to start. Your three. Man, 686 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Man, that's that's a heck of a story. 687 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: And now we're here, sitting in this podcast room here 688 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: at TCOPC. I voted that the number one facility and 689 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: support staff in the NFL. And I know you're not 690 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna take credit for it, but when I think of 691 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: support staff, I think of guys like you because weight 692 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: training and strength coach that that was on that list 693 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: as far as like, okay, what's the great of the 694 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: weight room? What's the great of the strength strength staff? 695 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: A plus? What goes into you guy, your group getting 696 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: at A plus? When it comes to being the number 697 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: one or being in the top upper echelon of strength 698 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL. It goes into our coach, we said, 699 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: and it goes into the players that we have in 700 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: this building. And it shouts out to however these guys 701 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: get here, the people that bring them here. It goes 702 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: into those guys and we appreciate those guys alive. Like 703 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: I said, we try to create a coach for those 704 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: guys to be successful and not like what if guys 705 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: dragged their head I got to come to the place today. 706 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: We like those guys to be around us, you know 707 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: what I mean. It starts with Tyler's athlete training staff, 708 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: it goes on to us. It's it's a collective group 709 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: of people that that's together for a coming goal. And 710 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: that's about these players being successful, having to having the 711 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: things that they need, whether it's pre practice, post practice, 712 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: pre game, Remy and her staff and what they do. 713 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: It's just a whole. It's a team. It's a team 714 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: of people that want to want to be successful, want 715 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: these guys to use a d a lot, look good, 716 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: feel good, play good. You know. Shout out to deep 717 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: coach Prime with that one. But that's basically the model 718 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: that we do. When I even saying it every day, 719 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: you know so, And then like I say, in the 720 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: weight room, man, we work around these guys. The injuries, 721 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: we try to collect connect with those guys what they 722 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: do in all season, where they train at or what 723 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: they've been doing, what they like to do, what they 724 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: don't like to do, and also at the same time, 725 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: have a plan for him every single day they come 726 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: in there. What you know what idy We want to 727 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: address every need that they have and we want to 728 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: make sure those guys are looking good, feeling fresh. So 729 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: we so they had the most success possible. You know, 730 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I played college football and just from you know, my 731 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: strength coach he was he was a powerlifter, so he 732 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: right now, he's like sixty years old. I played at 733 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: Liberty Universe. He's sixty years old, and he's the strongest 734 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: man at his age. Personally, I didn't agree with his 735 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: mythology on you know, the strength portion of it because 736 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you got to be explosive to be 737 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: able to play the game of football. There was a 738 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: lot that he did that I was like, man, this 739 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: is very helpful for what I'm doing right now. But now, 740 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: as you've ascended in your career and you learn different 741 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: things every single day, as far as this is what 742 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: makes a professional football player be at his best, what 743 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: would you say is probably one of the best workouts 744 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: or best lifts or best movements that are NFL player 745 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: can do to be at his best. On Sunday, I 746 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: would say, these guys just not being stuck in the box. 747 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: You gotta be explosive. You gotta be strong, you gotta 748 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: be able to fast, you gotta be in great shape, 749 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta be able to run. So it's our 750 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: job to collectively put all all those elements together. And 751 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: I think we do a great job of that here 752 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: led by Josh Tyler, and we led by science, and 753 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: then explain it to a guy the why. Once you 754 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: explain the guy the why, what he's doing in Hollywood, 755 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: he's doing high gets him better and high safely, we 756 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: can train a guy because the old days were just 757 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: loading up a bunch of weight and the guy lift 758 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: in a bunch of heavy and being stiff and can't move. 759 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: That's not that's that's not. That's not this age of 760 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: football no more. You know what I mean, Because guys 761 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: ain't running just downhill, They just banking, banking, banking. These guys, 762 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: you gotta run to cover real you gotta be Football is, 763 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: in my opinions, a game of car rex. It's a 764 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: game of car rex. You know, so you gotta have 765 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a big car. You gotta chase a fast car and 766 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: vice versa, and then be out of being successful. And 767 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: then they gonna they're gonna collide. They just be honest, 768 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: They're gonna collide, and you want both of them cars 769 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: get up and keep it pushing. And I know every 770 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: every possession group is a different car, right, So how 771 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: do you taylor um the engine and the piston and 772 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: the the just certain aspects the transmission of each car 773 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: for Sunday, you just look at the guy, look at 774 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: his body frame. We do it, like I say, we 775 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: do a great job testing these guys and they come 776 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: in seeing how much weight they can they can gain 777 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: or they need to lose, and you just taylor to 778 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: work out towards the basic needs of their position. You have. 779 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: We have great relationship with our coaches to make sure 780 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: you had the best product in the weight room, which 781 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: in turns had the best product of the field. Sometimes 782 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: people get stuck in their own boxes or whatnot by 783 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: by just like it's I'm I'm in the weight room. 784 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: I stay down here and I don't talk to the 785 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: coaches upstairs, or I don't care about the injuries. They're 786 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: gonna do this because it's my way, the highway. That's 787 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: not what we do. We talk to each position, coach, 788 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: each player to figure out their needs or where we 789 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: see them, where they need to be. We talked to 790 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: our general manager and his staff and personnel and figure 791 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: out where they see the guy at, what he needs 792 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: to improve on. And again it's all he goes back 793 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: to that relationship because everybody in our room wants to win, 794 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: so we're not stuck in our own Boy say this 795 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: is where we do things. I'm closing my daughter, this person, 796 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: that person, or this room in that room. That doesn't happen. 797 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: So you just you tell that program to each guy, 798 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: like a receiver might need some different m dB or 799 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: one receiver from the other receiver. You try to understand 800 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: the game plan, offensive, defensive philosophy or they trying to 801 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: do with that guy. Is very deep. And then also 802 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: it's the biggest thing is it's backed by science. You 803 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: talk about science, and I got a couple more questions 804 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: for you just just speaking on science alone. How it 805 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: has science and analytics. I guess changed the game as 806 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: far as when it comes to what you do for 807 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: a living science and analytics has definitely changed it in 808 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: a major way because if the old days are just 809 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: running guy into the ground to patch yourself on the back, 810 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: it's over with because it's like it is we were, 811 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: we were at GPS units or whatnot every day for 812 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: all our runs or whatnot, and it tells us basically 813 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: what the naked I can't see, you know, So it 814 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: tells us how fast the guys running, how much he's 815 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: covering in each period of practice. And so it's days 816 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: if we and we have it progressed by like high 817 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: days and low days. If we want a day to 818 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: go high, we have the numbers to show us that 819 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: he's going high or he's going low or vice versus 820 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: on a a low day. So that's where it signed. Science 821 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: is that everything, because it also puts it in our 822 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: head back in the day when you and I was 823 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: playing football that we just ran because our coach shold 824 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: us to run, and they wars out and then the 825 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: next day expect us to do the same thing all 826 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: over again, and then the next day expect us do 827 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: it all over again. We're now with signs we can 828 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: show somebody, hey, we want a high day, so they 829 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: covered this amount of yards. All right, if we keep 830 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: running this amount of yards, it's not gonna works. Something's 831 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: gonna give you know what I mean, It's not gonna work. 832 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: So it signs we can show that sometime a player 833 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: wants to go go, go, go go. Hey man, we 834 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: might need chill lot. All right, Then we might look 835 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: at our schedule and we again, we have a great job, 836 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: a great building understanding of these guys bodies. It's an 837 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: old saying, never be brave with another man's body, and 838 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: sign it allows us to do that safely without us 839 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: just saying, hey, we're gonna go, go go, go, go go. 840 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: So that's what I love about it. I love about 841 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: even in the weight room, so we might in the 842 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: days when we're moving. We use a lot of velocity 843 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: based training type stuff with our equipment that we use, 844 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: and we want a god to be explosive. Got to 845 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: hit a certain number. He goes red or it goes green. 846 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: Then that's another number. Another pitch that we had a 847 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: lot of time posted in the weight room of guys 848 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: hit certain power at certain speeds, certain velocities or whatnot. 849 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: And it keeps guys competitive at the same time and 850 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: keep them fresh and keep them confident that these guys, hey, 851 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: they're not just running me into the ground and just 852 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: telling me to do this. They have a plan for me. 853 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: And where we meet these guys with the at and 854 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: these guys again, they're the most competitive athletes in the world. 855 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why they're in the league. And so 856 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: these guys want to feel their freshest and with signs 857 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: of analytics, we can help them feel their freshest. Yeah, 858 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: but I was saying the same breath. I know, we 859 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: gotta get out there soon, but I was saying the 860 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: same breath when got a lot of guys that played 861 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: in college like they were just freak athletes, so going 862 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: into the weight room or like I was listening to 863 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: an interview I think it was who's the running back 864 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: USC played with? Uh Reggie Bush? He was the backup 865 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: running back into line White, Lindelle White. He was on 866 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: an I am athlete and he was like, I never 867 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: worked out, So he never worked out in college. He 868 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: just showed up in two thousand, I mean two thousand 869 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: rushing yards season for you, how do you push guys 870 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: like that in the NFL versus college where it's just 871 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: like you know this guy's here for a degree, Like, 872 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: how do you push those guys and try to find 873 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: that balance of like I gotta save you, but at 874 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: the same time, I want to make you work too. Again, 875 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: to me, it's all about relationships. I go back to that, like, 876 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: if I had a I've coach guys everyone's life. I've 877 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: been blessing my career to coaching high school, college, pro 878 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: big college, small college, whatever, HBCU high school the same 879 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: way a lot of kids I coached against in high 880 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: school they also made the transition and now seeing them 881 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: playing the pros or whatever. But it all is about relationships. 882 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: So I gotta figure out. If I had a guy 883 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: like Lindelle White or any of these guys, I gotta 884 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: figure out what he is a strength coach, I gotta 885 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: figure out, all right, what does he do? How do 886 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: get him in here? And that's that's the that's the challenge, 887 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I love it, You know what 888 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean because I like to be around people. Hey man, 889 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: all right, Linda, which time right when you like to 890 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: work out? All right, some guys you might meet in 891 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: this league, they want to work out five in the 892 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: one and six and one. We might come in for 893 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: those guys. Some guys want to work out after practice, 894 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: but I think you just got to find out where 895 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: guys at and then you can put you guys as 896 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: much you onto it. Just if he if if a 897 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: guy rocks with you and see you care, it's almost 898 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: like a pair with a kid or whatnot. If you 899 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: if they see you care, they're gonna work for you. 900 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: That's just what I've seen, and I haven't really had 901 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: too many problems with any guy no matter what love 902 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: I coached. That My last question for you, where are 903 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: the weight room or just strength and conditioning goals for 904 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: this group in twenty twenty three To be the healthiest 905 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: team every weekend, week out. To have a healthy team 906 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: in the league weekend week out. That's that's that's simple, man. 907 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: That's I wasn't expecting that, and I love that answer. 908 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: I was. I was thinking more old school of like 909 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: I want to have the strongest team. I want to 910 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: have the most athletic team. But like you, to your point, 911 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: it's usually the teams that's most healthy at the end 912 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: of the year that ends up winning the Super Bowl. 913 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that and I respect respect that answer. 914 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: No problem, that's Marquis Johnson, assistant strength and conditioning coach 915 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: here from the Minnesota Vikings. Always a pleasure. Could talk 916 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: to you all day, man, but appreciate your time today, 917 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: No problem, Thank you guys. Well, Gabe really enjoyed that. 918 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: That was really good. He's a great Guy's so good, 919 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: great guy. Um, hopefully people get some sort of inspiration 920 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: for his story. Um, just from pedaling bikes to that 921 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: leading to his first NFL job, to him just going 922 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: across the country helping people get better at understanding their 923 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: bodies to being here now. Just a just a phenomenal 924 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: human being. So yeah, enjoy Really I enjoyed that conversation 925 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: talking to him. Yeah. I remember when he shared that 926 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: story with me at training camp this past year about 927 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: how you know, working those connections and just meeting the 928 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: right people at the right time, And I was like, man, 929 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: that's such such a good tale, such a good piece 930 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: of advice for anyone really in any field starting out. 931 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: You can hear more from the Vikings performance strength and 932 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: conditioning coaches. They are doing a press conference this week 933 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Depending on when you listen to this podcast, 934 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: you can check that out give you more of an 935 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: insight into how things have changed around here or haven't changed, 936 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,240 Speaker 1: or how the players stay on top of their diet 937 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: or their performance. I know they'll probably talk a lot 938 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: about metrics and some science in there, So if you're 939 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: in should that kind of stuff, be sure to go 940 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: to Vikings dot com and check out that press conference 941 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: and that conversation with our Viking Strength and Conditioning staff. 942 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if there really is a way to 943 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: prepare someone for a moment like what just happened to 944 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: Vikings wide receiver kJ Osbourne. If you haven't heard this 945 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: story yet, where you been a not on social media? 946 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: Right and then b I'll give you a brief synapsis. 947 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: kJ Osbourne helped pull a man out of a Bernie 948 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: car after he hit a bridge or a poll or 949 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: something like that in an accident, a car accident in Austin, Texas. 950 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: kJ was going home and his uber and his driver 951 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: pulled over and they within three and a half minutes, 952 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: pulled this man out of this car, not thinking of consequences, 953 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: and saved his life. I mean, just the sheer amount 954 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: of heroicism, decency. I don't even know how to even 955 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: put it into words. I think Kirk really said it 956 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: best on Twitter. He said, if you know kJ, this 957 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise you about him. It's incredible, like just for 958 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost the Uber drivers stopping and 959 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: apparently he was the one kind of like he totally 960 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: just went straight to the car, and kJ said he 961 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: was a little nervous. He was like, I don't know, 962 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, what if it blows up, And the guy 963 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, we're doing it, like and so 964 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: then kJ was like, you're right, I should like in 965 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: the thing. It is like, I mean, I may get 966 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: ridicule for this, but I think good things happen, like 967 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: good opportunities happen for good people, and this was a 968 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: good opportunity for kJ to be a light, like the 969 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: light that we already know that he is in this 970 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: locker room or in this building, and that to be 971 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, kind of elevated to this to this standpoint. 972 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: So just a miraculous story if you want to, you know, 973 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: use that word. But man, like when I first heard 974 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, what, like what's going on? But 975 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: still like, man, I don't I still don't really know 976 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: the worst to say to be able to to sum 977 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: that up, because somebody could have lost their life oh easily. 978 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean he the driver was able to put pick 979 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: himself up a little bit out of the car and 980 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: kJ and them pulled him out, and then kJ pulled 981 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: him away. I'm like, also like the divine sense of 982 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: like you get into an accident and there's just happens 983 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: to be a person who could actually lift you up 984 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: out of a car right there. Like if it was 985 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: me drive it along, I couldn't get you out of 986 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: the car worth anything. It would have been happens Superman 987 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: and strength like the adrenaline we've been going. But you 988 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: got to think like having someone willing to do that 989 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: is also a part of it. And obviously um not obviously, 990 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: but he has been making the rounds doing interviews and stuff, 991 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: so we got a lot of requests for him to 992 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 1: speak yeah, and we were able to grant that request 993 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: this week as far as vikings. You can check out 994 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: the full interview with kJ Osbourne. It's about fourteen minutes long, 995 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: him describing what happened and talking about you know what 996 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: led him to this moment, And I think one of 997 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: the best parts of the interview for me was him 998 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: talking about why he felt compelled to do it, and 999 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: so we have a blurb of that right now, but 1000 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: if you want to hear the whole thing, make sure 1001 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: you check out vikings dot com. Here's Kjo. When you 1002 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: see that fire and you know, just the flames, you know, 1003 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: even in the picture, I mean, it doesn't even give 1004 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: the whole you know, realization of what was going on 1005 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: because like you know, the flames are are bursting, and 1006 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: you know, there's tires popping. You know that that kind 1007 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: you know started startled all of us and everything like that. 1008 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: So um, you know, it was definitely definitely felt longer 1009 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: than three minutes. I feel like I've always kind of 1010 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: prided myself on being you know, a leader, you know, 1011 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: and a stand up guy, and you like I've I've 1012 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: said in other interviews, like, you know, if it wasn't 1013 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: for the NFL, you know, I would give my masters 1014 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: and criminal justice. You know, I wanted to be an 1015 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: FBI or the Secret Service. So um, you know, ironically, 1016 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: you know, these are the acts that you know, I 1017 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: was kind of I was trying to aim to be 1018 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: my profession um outside of the NFL. But you know, obviously, 1019 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: you know when it's live bullets and you know, you 1020 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: see this this car on fire. UM, it's obviously a 1021 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: lot different you know when you when you got a 1022 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: lot to risk like that. Um. So as far as 1023 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: changing me, um, I don't think it has changed me 1024 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: as a person, but I can't say that, you know, 1025 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: just the experience. You know, it's kind of inspired me to, uh, 1026 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, continue to inspire others and be a leader 1027 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: and a role model. Um, because you know, I tell 1028 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: kids all the time. You know, the fact that you 1029 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: know people look up to me, my family and kids 1030 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: or you know whoever. You know, inspires me to be 1031 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: myself every day and continue to lead and continue to 1032 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, even on bad days, you know, to to 1033 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: present myself. Um, you know who I am, you know, 1034 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: first class and things like that. Definitely a crazy experience, 1035 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, Um, you know, right place, 1036 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: right time. And another thing, you know, it wasn't just me, 1037 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was you know, it was Arthur, it 1038 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: was a Rita. It was Abdul who who I've you know, 1039 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: been in connection with and talking to out throughout this 1040 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: week and um, you know, staying in contact with them 1041 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: because they're not really on social media much, so I'm 1042 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: telling them, you know, this story you know, millions of 1043 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: people are seeing this and I want you guys to 1044 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: um know that people are grateful for you as well. 1045 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna talk about the football player, but um, 1046 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: you know those three are heroes. Again. You can hear 1047 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: the full kJ Osbourne presser on his miraculous or his 1048 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: heroic saving of a life. Really, I just it's so 1049 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: crazy to even say that out loud. Still, it's crazy. 1050 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: He said that he'd never been to Austin and he 1051 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: missed his first uber. Really, he missed his first uber. 1052 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: And he said if he would have gotten that first 1053 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: Uber uber, he would have never seen that. So he's 1054 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: excited to be able to know. I guess experienced that 1055 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: first hand. But the fact that kJ was like kJ 1056 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: was saying that him and the driver are the only 1057 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: option for saving that guy's life. That that pretty much 1058 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: just tells you everything you need to know. So kudos 1059 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: to him. Phenomenal press conference and so happy he's a Viking. Yeah, 1060 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: so happy. Happy he's alive too, best but yeah, many 1061 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: and all turned out for the best. I'm excited to 1062 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: see what kJ does in year two because I don't know, 1063 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel like things like that motivate you, and they 1064 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of help you appreciate life and when you get 1065 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: opport not even when unfortunate circumstances like that happened, like 1066 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: it gives you another appreciation to be better at your craft. 1067 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see how he takes his craft 1068 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: to another level. Yeah, I think a lot of fans 1069 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: are excited to see kJ take just another step. I 1070 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: feel like every year he stepped up his game You're 1071 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: one to year two was astronomical. I feel like he 1072 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of more big moments in year three, 1073 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: and who knows what year four can bring. One last 1074 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: note before we sign off on the podcast this week, 1075 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: if you are interested in that Vikings free agency tracker, 1076 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: make sure you go to Vikings dot com. There's a 1077 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: list of all of our current Vikings free agents and 1078 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: then as moves begin to be made, things might change 1079 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: a little bit on there, but you can say updated 1080 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: on that. And also very exciting Episode three of the 1081 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: Voyage is out. If you haven't watched the first two episodes, 1082 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: they're also located on YouTube. But Episode three of the 1083 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: Voyage is out, featuring Kirk's first return to Washington and 1084 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: those exciting wins in Buffalo and on Thanksgiving. Check out 1085 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: the never before seen footage of those games and the 1086 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff our guys got. So I don't know, 1087 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: it's it's shaping out to be a really fun series 1088 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: so far. There's only one more episode left. The season 1089 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: finale is coming out next week, so make sure you 1090 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: go check up. Make sure you go catch up on 1091 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: the voyage right now. Yeah, I haven't. I mean, I'm 1092 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: not gonna speak for fans here. I'll say watch them 1093 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: all right now. But like I watched episode one and 1094 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, this was so good. I'm 1095 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna wait till the other three come out, and then 1096 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take you're gonna binge. I'm gonna take 1097 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: three hours up one day and watch there you go. 1098 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: So the first one was phenomenal. Yeah, the first one 1099 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: was really good. And to think that they were able 1100 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: to put that much content or like summarize like training 1101 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: camp all the way to the first game in one 1102 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: episode insane. I can't believe that we get Washington, Buffalo, 1103 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving in an episode. So that means the end 1104 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: is going to be cults, colts cut. We can't give away. Yeah, 1105 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: that was after Thanksgiving, we can't give away too much. 1106 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: But like Nate Vaughan and his crew Alex Miller, I 1107 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: don't want to name every name when you can't give 1108 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: away that. I mean, everyone knows the ending. I mean 1109 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: we all know what happens, like watching a movie at 1110 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: the Titanic. What happens. It's like knowing that you're watching 1111 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: the Titanic, but like what the ship's not going to 1112 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: sink at the end. Yeah, I mean there's there's like outtakes, 1113 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: so maybe no, I know I'm giving you a hard time. 1114 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,479 Speaker 1: I just think it's funny because we're like we can't 1115 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: spoil it word like it already happened. But it's like 1116 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: I was telling Nate Vaughn, like it's somewhat of a risk, 1117 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: right to like the voyage and like save all of 1118 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: the footage that you recorded during the year for after 1119 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: the season thirteen. I mean, what, yeah, do we do? 1120 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: Does the voyage happen? Man? Right? Yeah? That who knows? 1121 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: But go watch it and that that's that those decisions 1122 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: are above gave and I's paid grade. So we we 1123 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: just were there for the popcorn and binging. Yeah, but 1124 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: uh yeah, make sure you go check out the Voyage. 1125 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: I think kettle corn so much better than popcorn. You 1126 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: are are you a butter guy? No, I don't like it. 1127 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: I went to watch Create three last night and the 1128 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: butter was Oh. I thought that face was because of 1129 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: the movie. The movie was okay, Okay, that's it. My 1130 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: boys hyped it up. Okay, it's not bad. Like after 1131 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: you after you watch the Voyage, go watch Create three. 1132 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: What's better Create or the Voyage? Voyage? Nice? This is? 1133 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: This is thereage? Voyage was? Voyage is going to be 1134 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: really good? The first season two, season three or episode two, 1135 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: episode three. I'm not a big it's okay. Words are hard. 1136 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a big movie person myself, so I have 1137 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: not seen Creed, probably will not see Creed. I'm not 1138 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. It takes. It takes a very 1139 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: special movie for me to want ago and turn it 1140 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 1: on and watch it. And a special movie. My god, 1141 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: what's the next one? The last one I've seen? I 1142 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: went to the theaters. I think I was just trying 1143 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: to be a nice fance. Oh, Batman Whison? No, right, 1144 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: the latest one? The latest Batman. I went to the 1145 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: movies and sell that one. I didn't hate it. I 1146 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: like how he was kind of emo Batman right, Like 1147 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: to me, he like whore the eyeline. Yeah, he was 1148 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: like in his feeling all the time. I'm a big 1149 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: emo Batman fan. Okay he does. We're black, so that helps. Yeah, 1150 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: And he really was an emo dude. He kind of 1151 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: reminded me of like when he played Edward in Twilight, 1152 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: but then Edward and Twilight became Batman, so like a 1153 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: vampire Batman. If you stay for this edition of the podcast, 1154 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: you are a true, true fan. Thank you if you 1155 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: and if you stayed until the end and you're listening 1156 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: to this nonsense. My Twitter handle is at Tatum Everett Games. 1157 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: Her handle is at Gabe Henderson, and please let us 1158 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: know that you actually stay and listen to this. Would 1159 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: love to hear that. I'm not really sure how we 1160 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: end on and that one, but we appreciate you listening. 1161 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: These are the super secret sessions of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 1162 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next week.