Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk
Speaker 1: Hi everyone walk on The Mother Knows that this is
Speaker 1: our annual questions only episode. So Maria is going to
Speaker 1: ask the questions and we will answer them. All right, first,
Speaker 1: what do the majority of people or children choke on
Speaker 1: over the holidays? I don't know if there's anything different
Speaker 1: during the holidays than any other time of year, but
Speaker 1: the most common things are food, obviously, the classic things
Speaker 1: of hot dogs that are cut in cross sections that
Speaker 1: are the exact size of a child's airway, grapes, things
Speaker 1: like that. Another one could be balloons or common one
Speaker 1: kid's choke on. I don't know if people have a
Speaker 1: lot of balloons around this time of year, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's anything different around this time of year
Speaker 1: than any other time of year. It's just terrible to
Speaker 1: even think about a kid choking around the holidays. But
Speaker 1: all right, what's the weirdest Christmas related injury you've heard of?
Speaker 2: Let me think on that for a second. What are
Speaker 2: you well?
Speaker 1: If I could help you out, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: electrocutions right that happened with like Christmas trees or the.
Speaker 2: Guy the other day.
Speaker 1: You know the guy, the guy that we talked about
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago that got electrocute to putting his
Speaker 1: Christmas lights up. Yeah, and it wasn't you know. The
Speaker 1: way I thought about it was he got electrocuted plugging
Speaker 1: it in on the roof or something, but he hit
Speaker 1: the live power line. So yeah, when he was like
Speaker 1: throwing them, he was throwing them somewhere right to get
Speaker 1: to the other side to somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like a lot of.
Speaker 1: Real trees also catch on fire a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think those cause people a lot of problems. That used
Speaker 1: that used to be a thing that when I was
Speaker 1: a kid that people were so scared of. And I
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know. I never really talked a
Speaker 1: game about it because we only had a real tree
Speaker 1: a couple times, and it was flocked. And they're like
Speaker 1: a little bit different because they're sealed and they don't
Speaker 1: get dried out as easily, like you don't have to
Speaker 1: water them.
Speaker 2: Like crazy like you do a regular tree.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I remember growing up that was it
Speaker 1: seemed like a lot of people moved to artificial trees
Speaker 1: in the eighties because they were afraid that the tree
Speaker 1: was gonna catch on fire in the house. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like I definitely don't see as many stories
Speaker 1: about it recently. I don't know if people are just
Speaker 1: like better about unplugging them or keeping them on a timer.
Speaker 1: I think the rule of thumb is just you know,
Speaker 1: you don't leave stuff plugged in, like while you're not
Speaker 1: home something like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The lights are different though, I'm guilty of leaving my
Speaker 1: Christmas lights on all the time. The led wants they
Speaker 1: don't get hot. Well, considering that you're married to a fireman,
Speaker 1: you're not really super responsible with fire hazard.
Speaker 2: He lives here too. What do you want me to say?
Speaker 1: We have a question about Gabe coming up. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna jump to it now since we're on the topic.
Speaker 1: What are some absolutely no go fire hazards or fire
Speaker 1: safety Gabe preaches around the holidays. Candles are always a thing.
Speaker 1: I want a house to smell good all the time.
Speaker 1: But he's constantly yelling at me about having candles too
Speaker 1: close to things, and I'm like, dude, I really I
Speaker 1: can't explain to you how far away it is he
Speaker 1: wants it to be. Like if you add a dining
Speaker 1: room table. He wants it to be in the center
Speaker 1: of the table and no light fixture above it, and
Speaker 1: nothing anywhere near it, not a curtain, not a shelf,
Speaker 1: not a piece of taxi army that might catch on fire.
Speaker 1: That might have happened a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 1: now he's all paranoid. Yeah, so he's he's he's kind
Speaker 1: of nuts about the candles. He hates in my house,
Speaker 1: I have really long curtains on almost every single window,
Speaker 1: and he's always like, can't you make.
Speaker 2: Those curtains shorter? And I'm like, no, that looks terrible.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I like them dragging on the floor. He hates it,
Speaker 1: like he just thinks it's a huge fire hazard. He's not,
Speaker 1: He's not really. He also gets nuts with cooking. Anytime
Speaker 1: he calls it a careless cooking incident, he smells like
Speaker 1: something burning. He like freaks out and like opens all
Speaker 1: the windows when it's twenty degrees outside. But he's he's
Speaker 1: really not that bad. Honestly, your worst defense, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is your space heater by your desk, because there have
Speaker 1: been several times where I've you know, you're away, and
Speaker 1: then I come in the house and it's on from
Speaker 1: like two days ago, touching your fur lined.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe you have not had a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that thing catches on fire sometimes too, like it
Speaker 2: did a couple of weeks ago. But I need that.
Speaker 2: That's like my security blanket.
Speaker 1: And that's the second time that one is caught on fire,
Speaker 1: like you got a new one and then the second
Speaker 1: one caught on fire a couple of weeks ago. So
Speaker 1: Gabe's dad is a fireman, and I think that I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with him once about electric blankets, Like
Speaker 1: he's like a note because he's like old school seventies firefighter,
Speaker 1: Like he's when electric blankets would like kill people, and shit,
Speaker 1: they probably still could, I suppose, But I'm like, I
Speaker 1: would get divorced from you if I couldn't have a
Speaker 1: my electric blanket. But one of Gabe's friends had a
Speaker 1: fire that involved the dryer lint not being cleaned out properly.
Speaker 1: So he's like a freak about that, Uh, always checking
Speaker 1: to make sure that that's cleaned out every single time
Speaker 1: used the dryer and stuff. Just that's that's it, though
Speaker 1: they're not really I mean, considering the amount of fires
Speaker 1: that the guys go to.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't really seem like they're too they don't get
Speaker 1: too overly crazy with things. I wonder if they blanket
Speaker 1: careless cooking incidents. As a lot of people store things
Speaker 1: in their oven. I'm firmly against doing that. But my
Speaker 1: husband is really about putting all different types of things
Speaker 1: in the oven. Just he'll put like food in there
Speaker 1: to keep it warm or just random shit, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't do it, because I mean, like like he'll mostly
Speaker 1: he puts pans in there, but let's say he'll cook
Speaker 1: something and then he'll later want to reuse like the
Speaker 1: piece of foil he was using, not like he could
Speaker 1: rip another piece off or anything, right, So he'll put
Speaker 1: that in there and it'll have grease on it or something,
Speaker 1: and then I'll turn the oven on not knowing it's
Speaker 1: in there, and then it smells bad, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to worry about something being in there.
Speaker 1: Just we have places to put everything. You're just being lazy.
Speaker 1: It just seems like it's like it's like almost an
Speaker 1: empty cabinet in your kitchen.
Speaker 2: That's you know what I mean, I understand it. I
Speaker 2: actually keep stuff in the one side of mine too.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't see a reason for it, you know.
Speaker 1: I sometimes I put my sour dough bowl in there
Speaker 1: to prove it, but I put a note on the
Speaker 1: thing that says.
Speaker 2: It's in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a piece of plastic wrap on it,
Speaker 1: so like you know how bad that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if they have a lot of problems
Speaker 1: because of stuff like that. All right, do you have
Speaker 1: a certain food or snack that you put out every
Speaker 1: year for the holidays? They said they do strump boli
Speaker 1: and pepperoni bread. It sounds delicious. When I read that
Speaker 1: question earlier, I was like, I want to make pepperoni
Speaker 1: bread for for Christmas Eve now.
Speaker 2: Because you can't. So I already I already I already looked.
Speaker 1: Up a recipe seriously, like I'm going to make it
Speaker 1: because one of the things about being gluten free is
Speaker 1: that you just can't have good stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: even if I make it, like, it's just not gonna
Speaker 1: taste like it should.
Speaker 2: But that makes me think that I want that.
Speaker 1: We didn't we talk about this a few episodes back, like, well,
Speaker 1: we were talking about our favorite holiday treats.
Speaker 2: So stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of touched on it a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we're switching it up this year.
Speaker 1: Normally we make sauce with like sausage and meatballs and everything,
Speaker 1: and then we do sandwiches. This year, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: making chicken cutlets, which is a little different, but we're
Speaker 1: still gonna be doing sausage and peppers. And then every
Speaker 1: year I try to put out some like cheese board
Speaker 1: checuterary situation. But Rick Let's not makes that thing whatever
Speaker 1: it is that corn beef ball, Yeah, that's that thing's good.
Speaker 2: It's really good. What is it. It's like corned beef
Speaker 2: and cream cheese. That's it. No, there's more stuff, but
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give away seat. It's on the air.
Speaker 2: It's a that's like a family delicacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's like a weird thing, but it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing is really good. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like we put out a lot of different stuff. Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: we're pretty ritualistic, having the same exact menu every year.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Christmas Eve we just put like
Speaker 1: we all like we're big food people and we all
Speaker 1: like to cook and stuff, so we like to like say, oh,
Speaker 1: this year, we're doing this or whatever. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I I'm going a little lighter on the
Speaker 1: Secuterary this year, because let's not forget two years ago
Speaker 1: when I made the Secuterary chalet and then nobody ate
Speaker 1: it because everybody was like.
Speaker 2: I don't want to touch it, it's too pretty. Ria
Speaker 2: has this problem all the time. She makes these.
Speaker 1: Really she does it for like if we have a
Speaker 1: like a kid's party or something, she always makes these
Speaker 1: like extravagant cheese boards, and then nobody wants to eat
Speaker 1: it because they look so nice they don't want to
Speaker 1: mess it up. And then we end up having like
Speaker 1: fifty dollars worth of cheese and shit just like sitting
Speaker 1: there because nobody touched it. It really seezes me off, though,
Speaker 1: because it's food, and I'm like, it's I know, I
Speaker 1: understand that, though, like I would feel weird being the
Speaker 1: one to like wreck the way that it looks. You know, well,
Speaker 1: usually I make it, then I take a picture and
Speaker 1: then Gabe can't help himself, so he immediately tears into it.
Speaker 1: And at least other people feel good about it. After that,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm not The chalet took too
Speaker 1: long and then nobody touched it. I was really pissed
Speaker 1: about it. So I'm not going hard on the spreads
Speaker 1: anymore for my house because it really annoys me.
Speaker 2: All Right, what are your favorite ornaments on your Christmas tree?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really have any great ones. She
Speaker 2: doesn't have any fun ones.
Speaker 1: I don't because I am such a crazy person, like
Speaker 1: I talk about this that I probably have something wrong
Speaker 1: with me, with my color of coordination, and I just
Speaker 1: I can't have those like junkie ornaments. I'm like one
Speaker 1: of those people. I have a whole box of them,
Speaker 1: but they're not hanging up anywhere. I'm just that person. Sorry,
Speaker 1: hate me whatever. Actually, Aunttary got me when the girls
Speaker 1: were born, not you, unfortunately, but the two lillly And and Luccia.
Speaker 1: She got me these like little Lennox. They're they're like
Speaker 1: a little lammer giraffe thing that says their name and
Speaker 1: their their year that they were born. You're probably my
Speaker 1: favorite ones, and they match my tree, so it works out.
Speaker 1: God forbid. They don't match the tree. I have all
Speaker 1: junkie ones because I love those kind. My favorite one,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say. One of my favorites is my
Speaker 1: husband's stepmother bought him one that's when he learned how
Speaker 1: to drive that says steer clear, Here comes Ricky and
Speaker 1: it's a steering wheel.
Speaker 2: I think that one's just hilarious.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess one of my favorite ones is I
Speaker 1: have one that's a little Martha's Beach bubble that says.
Speaker 2: More noog and I love it.
Speaker 1: And then you got me that really cute chocolate chip
Speaker 1: canoli one.
Speaker 2: I think that one's really cute. Yeah, you have that
Speaker 2: matter tree. It's pink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Mike, my kitchen's more of a French theme.
Speaker 1: Gothic French bistro is my theme. So like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just leave my tree alone.
Speaker 2: All right, whatever.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite cookie recipe?
Speaker 2: Oh, the Ricotta cheese cookies.
Speaker 1: Mine is the Peppermint Hershey kit Yeah, it's chocolate cookie
Speaker 1: with a peppermint Hershey kiss in it.
Speaker 2: Do you think those.
Speaker 1: Ones me and Lara, the ones me and Lara made
Speaker 1: the other day, you could probably do that with.
Speaker 2: I think it's like a trader.
Speaker 1: I think the recipe was a trader Joe's and We've
Speaker 1: made it a couple of years.
Speaker 2: It's really good. It makes like a loaf.
Speaker 1: We were sinking it looks like a big turd and
Speaker 1: were like pinching off a loaf to make this. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really good. They're chocolate. But there was there was
Speaker 1: a section of the recipe that said you could like
Speaker 1: add peppermint and stuff and make them, because you could
Speaker 1: do like the chocolate one and the white one and
Speaker 1: make both of them, and then you you like roll
Speaker 1: it up and make the pin wheels. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen those?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think I think Annie used to make
Speaker 2: those a lot.
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 2: They were really good. I liked those a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think the ones I make are essentially
Speaker 1: the same as yours. But I just add like peppermint
Speaker 1: extract and then put the her she can. You're making
Speaker 1: the ricotta cheese once. Yeah, I just this morning got
Speaker 1: all of the stuff. I'm gonna make them this weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, make sure you give me some like a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm making you a whole box. You act like I
Speaker 1: don't ever give you like an entire box of cars.
Speaker 1: You're ridiculous. Have you ever refused to do it? Autopsy?
Speaker 1: If so why Yes. So there's a disease called CJD
Speaker 1: and it's a preon disease, which is weird. We talk
Speaker 1: about it a little bit in the gross room. We've
Speaker 1: actually done a high profile that's a section on preon diseases.
Speaker 1: And it's a little bit different than any kind of
Speaker 1: infection that you ever think about getting from a bacteria
Speaker 1: or a virus, because it's not an infectious agent, but
Speaker 1: it's something that causes abnormal proteins and most of the
Speaker 1: time when people get it, it just occurs in their body,
Speaker 1: but there's rare times that you can catch it from
Speaker 1: a person. And the people that are most high risk
Speaker 1: to catch it from a person that has JD are
Speaker 1: people who are either a brain surgeon that are doing
Speaker 1: surgery on those patients or a person that's doing autopsy
Speaker 1: and taking out the brains of those patients. And the
Speaker 1: reason that it's so dangerous is because when you use
Speaker 1: the bone saw, it creates aerosols which you could breathe in,
Speaker 1: even if you're wearing a mask and everything.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of risky.
Speaker 1: Right now, there's a whole entire procedure on how to
Speaker 1: do these autopsies and you're supposed to use like specific
Speaker 1: tools and a different a bone saw that that has
Speaker 1: a vacuum attached to it that sucks the dustin as
Speaker 1: you're using it.
Speaker 2: And my particular lab.
Speaker 1: Wasn't equipped for that. So I did do an autopsy
Speaker 1: once without all of that stuff on a patient with
Speaker 1: that and because I just I don't know why, I
Speaker 1: just did because I worked there, and that's you know.
Speaker 1: The second time they asked us to do it, one
Speaker 1: of the neuropathologists that I used to work with, so
Speaker 1: that's one of the pathologists that specialized in brain pathology,
Speaker 1: came up to me and he was just like listen, Nicole,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to start any trouble, but I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 2: You should do this, and I think you should refuse
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I just don't think they know enough
Speaker 1: about this, and I don't want to see you pop
Speaker 1: up with something in ten from now because you were
Speaker 1: exposed to this, because that's how it works, like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't even really know you were sick for a while.
Speaker 1: And that was cool that he was trying to look
Speaker 1: out for me, and it was fine because we ended up.
Speaker 1: There's there's like certain centers around the country that you
Speaker 1: could send these patients to that are getting research and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they have the equipment to do it. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't that huge of a deal, you know. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: so for CJDA only once, do you consider yourself health
Speaker 1: care or law enforcement? Me?
Speaker 2: Healthcare?
Speaker 1: Would a medical examiner though, be considered law enforcement or
Speaker 1: they also healthcare? They're they're government employees, medical, legal, death investigation.
Speaker 1: I would consider them to be on the on the
Speaker 1: legal side of things more so. Yeah, but they also
Speaker 1: have an interesting role because they're also involved with public health,
Speaker 1: especially if they're doing autopsies on you know, think about COVID,
Speaker 1: TB things like that, that like transmissible diseases. They're they're
Speaker 1: the ones that see the dead people, and so they're
Speaker 1: they have a really big role in public health as well.
Speaker 1: But their they're governmental employees. Yeah, for sure. Do you
Speaker 1: have a specific order that everybody opens the presence? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we let the little kids open them first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they they come down and do Sanna and
Speaker 2: all that, and then we.
Speaker 1: Wait on a side because this is probably the last
Speaker 1: year for Sanna.
Speaker 2: We've literally been saying that for three years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But but Lucci is ten years old, Come onta
Speaker 1: tell her she's getting a little Wait, who was telling me?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Was Jen telling us the other day that she knows
Speaker 1: a kid that was in sixth grade or something that
Speaker 1: still believes in Santa.
Speaker 2: I don't like high school? High school? The girl was
Speaker 2: going into ninth grade. No, they just told her.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so yes is she like like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's that doesn't see right to me,
Speaker 1: like a kid of that age, Like that's why do
Speaker 1: you have your kid in a bubble like that? The
Speaker 1: kid was fifteen years old? This is what I was like,
Speaker 1: what is happening here? How do you how how do
Speaker 1: you keep somebody so sheltered like that? I don't think
Speaker 1: that's listen, like I believe that that the mom thinks
Speaker 1: that she still believes, but the kid doesn't because I
Speaker 1: don't think, like I don't and I don't know Laura,
Speaker 1: if you're listening that I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 1: believe that Laura never had a formal conversation about about June.
Speaker 2: But she just like she's like, I know, we just
Speaker 2: never like you know.
Speaker 1: How with Lily and like I had a formal conversation
Speaker 1: with her about like yeah, but she was like questioning
Speaker 1: that she was yeah, and she was she was ten,
Speaker 1: and ten's my cut off, so cause I'm like a
Speaker 1: little bit older, you get you're gonna get beat up.
Speaker 1: There's like a fine line, and it's ten years old
Speaker 1: for me. But like, but Lara, like I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't know that June's ever like formally
Speaker 1: said to her, I don't believe in Santa anymore because
Speaker 1: she just goes along with it kinda And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of kids do that, So that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: like June certainly doesn't believe in Santa anymore, but like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I that's what I
Speaker 1: think is happening there, and the mom maybe isn't letting go.
Speaker 1: There's no way your fifteen year old believes in Santa.
Speaker 2: Still. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: This kind of leads into the next question, which is
Speaker 1: how and when did we stop believing in Santa. So
Speaker 1: I actually overheard you one Easter, I think I was
Speaker 1: around nine, say to somebody in the house, we gotta
Speaker 1: go get the bunny shit out of the trunk. But
Speaker 1: I was like barely asleep in the same room as you,
Speaker 1: so then you know, I pretended and everything, and then
Speaker 1: you just you get so excited about it, and it's
Speaker 1: like hard as a kid that you don't want to
Speaker 1: disappoint your parent about it, so you just go along
Speaker 1: with it for a little bit, and then I think
Speaker 1: that's what happens. It's funny because right now, like Lucia
Speaker 1: is definitely testing me. I could I feel it. She
Speaker 1: keeps bringing it up, and I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just like we just keep saying I told you
Speaker 1: I probably said this in a previous episode that she
Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, like don't we think that
Speaker 1: this is weird that there's just some guy that comes
Speaker 1: into your house in the middle of the night and
Speaker 1: he says he like stares at you when you're sleeping
Speaker 1: and he knows when you're awake, and he's like stalking you.
Speaker 1: And and then Gabe says, well, so do you not
Speaker 1: believe in Santa anymore?
Speaker 2: Lucha?
Speaker 1: And she says, no, I do. It was so funny,
Speaker 1: but she brought it up again the other day and
Speaker 1: she did tell me that kids at school said it
Speaker 1: said it. And then I don't want to straight up
Speaker 1: lie to her and just be like like no, Santa
Speaker 1: is real. Santa is real. We say like, well, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you think about it? You know,
Speaker 1: we're trying to like and and she's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: believe And.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: You know people, well there's people that think you're like
Speaker 1: a child abuse her if you lie to your child
Speaker 1: about Santa.
Speaker 2: And I think that's fun ridiculous. It's a good lie.
Speaker 2: It's a good it is.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's a good surprise. And they're like,
Speaker 1: there's no like lasting damage from that.
Speaker 2: People. Lillian was the most.
Speaker 1: Mind blown because she couldn't believe that the whole world
Speaker 1: was in on it. Like after I I told she
Speaker 1: asked me finally and I told her. She's like, wait
Speaker 1: a second. She goes and pulls up my computer and
Speaker 1: goes on Google and she's like, look, you could see
Speaker 1: where Sanna is. And I'm like, well, that's they make
Speaker 1: that for kids. And she's like, so they just make
Speaker 1: all this fake stuff, like every single adult in the
Speaker 1: world does this. And I was like, yeah, kind of
Speaker 1: like people that are in on Christmas and stuff, like
Speaker 1: most people that celebrate Christmas do that with their kids.
Speaker 1: To an extent, every single person I know does unless
Speaker 1: they're like Jewish or Muslim or something, and they don't
Speaker 1: do it. So she just couldn't believe. And even then
Speaker 1: it's cool because like the kids that don't believe in it,
Speaker 1: they still go along with it for them too, it's
Speaker 1: amazing kind of yeah, I mean it really is. It's
Speaker 1: this like, why can't we have respect like that about
Speaker 1: other things? I don't know, Oh yeah, Like it's like
Speaker 1: you're an asshole if you ever tell a child that
Speaker 1: there's no Santa, right, Like everybody could agree on that.
Speaker 2: It's something we can all ChIL dress in. All right.
Speaker 2: What are our favorite true crime podcasts?
Speaker 1: Oh, Nancy Grace my number one, Zone seven, Zone seven
Speaker 1: with Cheryl So Cheryl. I found Cheryl, and I found
Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan from Nancy Grace, and then I started
Speaker 1: listening to their podcasts from Nancy Grace, so all three
Speaker 1: of them they're my favorites. I also like A last
Speaker 1: podcast on the Left does really good coverage of high
Speaker 1: profile stories, and Heather McDonald on her Patreon also does
Speaker 1: really good true crime stories with her sister who's a
Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, So that's a good insight into it.
Speaker 2: As well. So those are the ones I listen to
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I listen to Nancy Grace like,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think that she's, you know, older,
Speaker 1: there's other podcasts and stuff. I'm older, and I've been
Speaker 1: like I used to watch her show when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and I just whenever, Like when that thing just happened
Speaker 1: with the CEO and everything getting shot, I was just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what she has to say
Speaker 1: about this, you know what I mean. So that's like
Speaker 1: my go to. And Cheryl's just like the best storyteller ever.
Speaker 1: She and she just like I love her delivery. And
Speaker 1: then Joseph, he used to do autopsy, so so I
Speaker 1: just like like to hear that aspect of it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Joseph and Cheryl also have the most calming voices ever,
Speaker 1: so when you're hearing these horrific stories, it just it
Speaker 1: just hits different because their voices are so relaxing, and
Speaker 1: they're like really good people too in real life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they really are outside of podcasts, all right. Who is
Speaker 1: my favorite housewife slash franchise? My favorite franchise right now
Speaker 1: is Salt Lake City. I think it for a newer franchise,
Speaker 1: it's been holding up very well. I think aesthetically, it's
Speaker 1: really beautiful to see all the mountains and they're skiing
Speaker 1: all the time, and they always have these like cute
Speaker 1: head to toe Chanelle skiing outfits and I.
Speaker 2: Just like all of that.
Speaker 1: And with that said, my favorite housewife is Lisa Barlow,
Speaker 1: who I also said last year when I was asked
Speaker 1: this question, She's getting a lot of shit this season,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna stand by baby or Lisa.
Speaker 2: And like, how much is a Chanelle snowsuit? Oh?
Speaker 1: It must be like thirty plus thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 1: Like, I like, one of my dreams is to have
Speaker 1: a Chanel like blazer. And I went and just listen,
Speaker 1: like that's not anywhere in my price range. But one
Speaker 1: time we were at where Sacks are one of those stores, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we like looked in there and it was ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a jacket and I just was like,
Speaker 1: this is not real, Like I can't even believe that.
Speaker 2: It's like and it's tweed, right.
Speaker 1: So all I kept thinking was like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a mortgage on my house and just coat and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear it and like pick up my cat
Speaker 1: and her fingernail is gonna get stuck in it, and
Speaker 1: like put a giant pull in it. Like I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine having a coat that costs. It's not even
Speaker 1: a coat, it's not like a it's it's just like,
Speaker 1: how often can you wear it?
Speaker 2: Everybody?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess you'd have to wear it
Speaker 1: every day if you spent that much money on it. Well,
Speaker 1: there's event because I will never I just want them
Speaker 1: to sponsor us or something like give us an outfit
Speaker 1: that would be really cool. These chicks will never wear
Speaker 1: the same outfit twice, Like they won't even wear the
Speaker 1: same person.
Speaker 2: You don't I think that like.
Speaker 1: Chanelle's giving them these outfits to wear. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think what happens sometimes is they have a stylist
Speaker 1: that has things in rotation, so they don't own them,
Speaker 1: and they're paying a stylist and they're getting dressed, or
Speaker 1: they're borrowing them or making deals with like sax Or
Speaker 1: Neeman's or companies like that.
Speaker 2: But I think that they ever poop in them and
Speaker 2: return them.
Speaker 1: I mean probably there's always rumors circulating this one chick
Speaker 1: from Beverly Hill saying that she's banned from Louis Vauton
Speaker 1: because she buys so much stuff and returns it. So
Speaker 1: they're definitely things circulating out there about their buying and
Speaker 1: returning processes. But I think a lot of them have stylists.
Speaker 2: And then not all of them.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a select few out of the
Speaker 1: over one hundred housewives that have existed that really are
Speaker 1: that wealthy. Because you know, one of the new checks
Speaker 1: on Salt Lake City right now, her husband invented the
Speaker 1: pom pilot, so they have like crazy tech on.
Speaker 2: I remember that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy that you're like, you're still
Speaker 1: like living off of that thing that is so obsolete now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I used to have one of them when I
Speaker 1: went to when I went to college because it was
Speaker 1: like I used to write my homework in it and stuff.
Speaker 2: It was awesome. She's got like.
Speaker 1: An any of the women that's husbands or themselves have
Speaker 1: worked in any type of tech situation have so much money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So they are always, you know, living in these crazy houses.
Speaker 1: But as we know from Bravo History, a lot of
Speaker 1: them go to jail for financial crimes and there's other
Speaker 1: stuff involved.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just particularly like that franchise because I think the
Speaker 1: drama is good and just esthetically everything's beautiful. Everybody lives
Speaker 1: in like lodge looking houses that are beautiful and look
Speaker 1: at mountains, and for me, it's a good scene, all right.
Speaker 1: Favorite movie or show of all time Monstrok will be
Speaker 1: my favorite movie if I had to pick one, and
Speaker 1: show like old school show Golden Girls, I really like
Speaker 1: Stranger Things honestly.
Speaker 2: To be your favorite show of all time.
Speaker 1: I mean it's up there. I like Golden Girls, like
Speaker 1: Golden Girls, Nanny, Like those kinds are the kind that
Speaker 1: you could just have on on the background and like
Speaker 1: listen to, you know. But like, yeah, I would say, though,
Speaker 1: like like a newer one, I would say Stranger Things probably,
Speaker 1: But like I really liked The Wire and I really
Speaker 1: liked Deadwood and you know what I mean, Yeah, Deadwood's
Speaker 1: so good. I just watched it a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: My favorite TV show of all time is probably a
Speaker 1: tie between Gilmore Girls and The Nanny. But my favorite
Speaker 1: show currently is this show Shrinking on Apple TV. I
Speaker 1: think it's like the most perfect show written. It's hilarious,
Speaker 1: but it's sad at the same time, so it's just
Speaker 1: a good mix of emotions. Movie wise, I feel like
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I wrote out a list
Speaker 1: of I just try to figure out what my favorite
Speaker 1: movie is. I just like so many of them, and
Speaker 1: I think my number one ended up being the trifecta
Speaker 1: of Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, Wedding Singer, which is not
Speaker 1: one movie, but I see all three of those the
Speaker 1: same and I could watch them all the time anytime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sarah Marshall too.
Speaker 1: You know the new ones, Like I don't think the
Speaker 1: new one's even coming out to the theater. It's going
Speaker 1: right to Netflix or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Probably that's kind of weird, right, But I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see that because I that movie. When that movie came out,
Speaker 1: I went to the theater and brought every single person
Speaker 1: that I knew, and I saw it five times. I
Speaker 1: thought it was like the funniest shit I ever saw.
Speaker 1: I thought it was so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel about forgetting Sarah Marshall too.
Speaker 1: It's one movie I've seen seventy five times, and every
Speaker 1: single time I'm crying, laughing, like it never gets.
Speaker 2: Old to me. Have you ever seen that one?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is so hilarious.
Speaker 1: So speaking of this right, so all like back in
Speaker 1: the day when Saturday Night Live was like the best ever,
Speaker 1: all of those spinoff movies with like Chris Farley and
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler and stuff, they were all like so good
Speaker 1: and so funny, and then like, what the hell was
Speaker 1: this Nancy Grace impression?
Speaker 2: The other day? It was freaking terrible. Listen.
Speaker 1: I sent it to I sent it to my friend too,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I think you're overly sensitive because
Speaker 1: you love her, and I'm like, no, I'm overly sensitive
Speaker 1: because as somebody that listens to her, I think she
Speaker 1: has a really iconic way of speaking with her accent,
Speaker 1: and she has catchphrases and stuff, and none of that
Speaker 1: was utilized at all.
Speaker 2: The hair was wrong.
Speaker 1: They had the handcuff necklace she wears, but it could
Speaker 1: have been way bigger the one she woren't.
Speaker 2: Right, life was you?
Speaker 1: Maria had the best idea that like she start, she
Speaker 1: should have started off with like a normal size handcuff necklace,
Speaker 1: and then every time the camera panned over to her,
Speaker 1: like it just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger,
Speaker 1: like something that would have been hilarious, like her hair.
Speaker 1: Her hair was off, like she has outraged hair. But
Speaker 1: I got more of a vibe of like a Petunia
Speaker 1: Clark singing downtown kind of vibe than Nancy Grace. Out
Speaker 1: of that, it was like a quoff, like a boufont
Speaker 1: kind of rather than And I guess Nancy's hair is
Speaker 1: a variation of that.
Speaker 2: But it's not that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought like Nancy Grace is a very easy
Speaker 1: person to imitate because she's very she has her own personality.
Speaker 2: There's nothing like the way she talks and the way
Speaker 2: she looks right.
Speaker 1: So, and they've done her before, and well, I don't
Speaker 1: think Sarah Sherman was the best person to impersonate her.
Speaker 1: I think Heidi Gardner Chloe Feinneman would have been done
Speaker 1: a better job. I think Heidi Gardner would have probably
Speaker 1: been the best because she kind of has.
Speaker 2: A mild eye.
Speaker 1: All of those people suck, like Saturday Night Live hasn't
Speaker 1: been good in like ten years for real, Like seriously,
Speaker 1: it just I think when you remove a couple of them,
Speaker 1: I think Heidi Gardner in particular, I'm going to defend
Speaker 1: because I think when you remove her from Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live and you put her in other things, she's incredible.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they write for her well on
Speaker 1: that show. And there are occasional skits where she is funny,
Speaker 1: but I think the show, you know, I'm curious because
Speaker 1: it's in its fiftieth year, if Lauren Bichaels is finally
Speaker 1: going to retire. I've heard rumblings that maybe Tina Fey
Speaker 1: might take it over.
Speaker 2: And if over, yeah, Like.
Speaker 1: If she takes it over, then I'd be interested in
Speaker 1: it because she's she's a funny.
Speaker 2: Person, she's a good writer.
Speaker 1: So it's a shitty job to have in the sense
Speaker 1: of like because she's a mom and stuff. So like
Speaker 1: when you're getting paid a lot of money and you
Speaker 1: have this executive level job basically at NBC Universal, but
Speaker 1: their hours suck. They are working. This is why they
Speaker 1: take off two weeks at a time, because they're working
Speaker 1: seven days a week, sixteen hours a day writing skits.
Speaker 1: They're up all night doing them. They have to film
Speaker 1: all the pre recorded ones on Thursday and then be
Speaker 1: doing dress rehearsal that gets taped in case of any errors,
Speaker 1: and then they have the live show. They have to
Speaker 1: make all those costumes in like twenty four hours. It's
Speaker 1: just pure Cha's like a lot of work for the shit.
Speaker 2: It is, honestly anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you had the Golden Era, which
Speaker 1: was like Maya, Rudolph, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Jimmy Fallon,
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell, that was like the best time of it.
Speaker 2: No, that wasn't the best time that. I mean. I
Speaker 2: just think that there was waves.
Speaker 1: There was like the seventies and then you had like
Speaker 1: Mike Myers and Dana Cart Like all those years were
Speaker 1: really awesome too, because that's like that was when I
Speaker 1: was younger, and then Chris Farley and Adam Sandler and
Speaker 1: then you know, Jimmy fall and all that. But after that,
Speaker 1: it just was like it's not been good. And it's
Speaker 1: not just me saying that, like everybody says it's not good.
Speaker 2: I don't even.
Speaker 1: Want to put the blame on Lord Michael's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is the network being
Speaker 1: incredibly difficult and like nobody's allowed to be funny. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're not allowed to say funny things.
Speaker 2: Anymore.
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. And I mean, I've listened
Speaker 1: to a lot of podcasts. I've read a couple of
Speaker 1: books about in like wats documentaries about that show. I
Speaker 1: think the history of that show is really incredible. And
Speaker 1: even though the show blows right now, I think the
Speaker 1: fact that Lorden Michael's pretty much he left for a
Speaker 1: couple of years, but he's pretty much run it the
Speaker 1: entire time is a huge achievement career wise. He was
Speaker 1: my age when that show came out.
Speaker 2: Think about that. So I think it was an awesome
Speaker 2: So that's iconic. That chick that.
Speaker 1: Played Nancy Grace was in the You're So Not Invited
Speaker 1: to My bar Mitz for Batmanz for whatever?
Speaker 2: Which one's the girl on bot Mitz? Yeah? That did
Speaker 2: you see that? I haven't watched that one yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That that movie's awesome. It's really good.
Speaker 1: It's really like, dude, it's Adam Sandler, like he's just
Speaker 1: he's good, but his girls are in it and they're
Speaker 1: good and it's just and his wife's in it.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is really good. I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love most stuff Adam Sandler that. I mean,
Speaker 1: his recent movies have been like kind of hit her face.
Speaker 1: All right, wait, speaking of Jewish people. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: found some my new favorite influencer on Instagram. I don't
Speaker 1: know what her name is, but I'll tag it in
Speaker 1: this episode if I could send it to you. But
Speaker 1: she's an Orthodox Jew and she talks about her life
Speaker 1: and it's amazing, Like I went down a rabbit hole
Speaker 1: for two hours watching the videos.
Speaker 2: Where have you been?
Speaker 1: There's been Netflix shows, there's a Netflix My Unorthodox Life now.
Speaker 1: But this is different because people just ask her questions
Speaker 1: and then she answers them in like a two second clips.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just as intrigued with this lifestyle as I
Speaker 1: am with the Amish.
Speaker 2: Like it's cut.
Speaker 1: It's so much different than what we are used to
Speaker 1: that it's so interesting to me. Do you know that
Speaker 1: they have to like go to this special place and
Speaker 1: take a bath after they have their period, like seven
Speaker 1: days after they stop bleeding or something. They have to
Speaker 1: go to this I don't know what the name of is,
Speaker 1: Mifka or something like house, and they have to take
Speaker 1: this special bath. But it's not like it's like a
Speaker 1: spiritual bath. It's not like a get clean bath. They
Speaker 1: have to do that every fricking month. That's nuts. I
Speaker 1: think this is you know, I've noticed like Mormon cultures
Speaker 1: having this huge boom in the last five years, and
Speaker 1: I think it's similar to that because it's just so misunderstood.
Speaker 1: But it's like a pretty large population of people. No,
Speaker 1: I really respect it. I just think it's I just
Speaker 1: think it's so crazy because it's not like that's not
Speaker 1: what we're used to. And I just think about, you
Speaker 1: know how I hate going to get my nails done
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, God, like you have to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got to go to this place and immerse myself
Speaker 1: in a bath after I have my period every month.
Speaker 1: Like it just seems like but she said it's like
Speaker 1: a spa, Like it's all like really fancy and stuff.
Speaker 1: But they have like there was just like a bunch
Speaker 1: of different questions about like after when they have their period,
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to like touch their husband and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. There's just like all these crazy rules and
Speaker 1: it's I just think I think it's cool that to
Speaker 1: be able to follow something like that and and never stray.
Speaker 1: They have rules about all this stuff. I was learning
Speaker 1: about when they could eat meat and dairy. So like
Speaker 1: if the kid has, they have to wait six hours
Speaker 1: in between. So if the kid has let's say meatballs
Speaker 1: or something at lunch at school at twelve thirty, then
Speaker 1: they can't eat dairy if they wanted to eat dairy
Speaker 1: until six thirty at night.
Speaker 2: Like it's you know what I mean, Like they have
Speaker 2: to seeople have parmesan in them. They don't know, they
Speaker 2: don't mix, they can't eat them together. That's very it's
Speaker 2: it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool, right, Like it's you're just like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. So and I do that with the
Speaker 1: Amish people too, because there's there's people, So there's two
Speaker 1: different kinds of Amish people. I saw one girl that
Speaker 1: is Amish who apparently is like sneaking a phone because like,
Speaker 1: how would anybody in her community even know she has it?
Speaker 1: A lot of them sneak phones because remember was it
Speaker 1: this year when they did that emergency alert on everybody's phone?
Speaker 1: Oh y, the found out in the Amish community because
Speaker 1: a lot of people had hidden ones. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: were all going off. Yes. So there's that, there's that girl,
Speaker 1: and then there's people who like left the Amish and
Speaker 1: now so they grew up Amish and now they're English.
Speaker 2: It's so it's just so freaking interesting. I love it.
Speaker 1: I think in the Amish culture, when you reach a
Speaker 1: certain age, they give you the option to leave for
Speaker 1: two years and.
Speaker 2: Regular Springer culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you could decide from there if you
Speaker 1: want to continue being Amish or go off. There's a
Speaker 1: part of it that's like because there's just a part
Speaker 1: of it that's really cool, like the community aspect.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with.
Speaker 1: The with the Jewish Orthodox that they all, you know,
Speaker 1: they go to special schools that all the kids learn
Speaker 1: the same religion, and then they're living this more unusual
Speaker 1: life compared to what most Americans are living. So all
Speaker 1: of the kids, like they all have the same rules
Speaker 1: when they go at home, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So with all their friends, it's just it's just like
Speaker 1: really cool and interesting.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: What's the strangest thing you've ever collected? Probably I don't know,
Speaker 1: Gabe's mustache when he shaves it off.
Speaker 2: I have dusting. No it's not, it's it's hilarious. Where
Speaker 2: is it like? You have it in a jar? Or
Speaker 2: is it I? I I have it right over there
Speaker 2: on the shelf. Do you want me to grab it?
Speaker 1: No? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that?
Speaker 1: Maybe I UD's I have like my kids placenta's my
Speaker 1: kids on bilical cord stumps, teeth.
Speaker 2: Totally normal.
Speaker 1: All right. What's the weirdest nickname somebody ever gave to you?
Speaker 2: Mine is Mirth.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you guys call me that, and
Speaker 1: I hate it and pop up. Still I don't know
Speaker 1: why either, But your name is in my phone as Mirth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when you email me and you see see other
Speaker 1: emails with business people, we are dealing.
Speaker 2: With it, says Mirth. I don't know what to do
Speaker 2: about that. Change it. I don't. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever had a weird nickname, have I? I don't know. Coli.
Speaker 2: That's what my family calls me.
Speaker 1: Well, I call you Nikki sometimes to piss you off,
Speaker 1: or to Gabe because we think it's hilarious. Wow, I'm.
Speaker 2: You don't like that name?
Speaker 1: Uh? What's something you've always wanted to learn or try?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm pretty good about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: When I want to learn how to do something, like
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn how to cook and I figured
Speaker 1: that out and still working on the gardening situation. Actually,
Speaker 1: like I could say that, like I would probably want
Speaker 1: to go to more formal like classes to learn about
Speaker 1: plants and.
Speaker 2: How to take care of them horticulture type stuff. Also,
Speaker 2: I really want to learn how to.
Speaker 1: Like color and draw with colored pencils to do like realism,
Speaker 1: like realistic pictures. I feel like I could. I just
Speaker 1: need to learn the certain techniques because I watch I've
Speaker 1: seen videos that the kids send me of like artists
Speaker 1: that do drawings in colored pencils that look like portraits
Speaker 1: are so cool, and I'm like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: could do that. I want to like look into that more.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just like art stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really want to learn how to like I want
Speaker 1: to learn how to make clothes or knit or something.
Speaker 1: I can't crochet, so I assume I can't knit either,
Speaker 1: because they're kind of really similar. But I would like
Speaker 1: to learn how to make clothes with the sewing machine.
Speaker 1: But sometimes what holds me back is I feel like
Speaker 1: the more things I learned like that, the more things
Speaker 1: people ask me to do and I don't want to
Speaker 1: do though, Like I just want to do it for
Speaker 1: viseo or to make people presents well you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: They know I can't say no. I'm just saying it.
Speaker 1: You know. I made us those Phillies cardigans and then
Speaker 1: everybody asked me for one, and I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but that was way too much time in my life.
Speaker 1: That's only worth it for myself or my parent.
Speaker 2: You need to do.
Speaker 1: You need to skip the embroidery, get the machine and
Speaker 1: find something else.
Speaker 2: Because takes the craft out of it.
Speaker 1: It's relaxing because I could sit on my couch and
Speaker 1: do it and watch a movie, not just you know,
Speaker 1: be sitting at a desk country door overall day doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It takes away like the art of it all right. Uh,
Speaker 1: would you guys ever write a book together?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like we kind of did our well yeah,
Speaker 2: but we did. I didn't write it. I just did
Speaker 2: a loose editing.
Speaker 1: Now, Maria did the Maria did the behind the scenes work,
Speaker 1: all that work with it, with the getting all of
Speaker 1: the photo what is the releases signed? And emailing the
Speaker 1: people back and forth and keeping all of the cases
Speaker 1: organized and harassing people when they wouldn't get back to
Speaker 1: us and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that type of work. I thrive on.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of a book do you?
Speaker 2: What kind of a book do you want?
Speaker 1: Maria and I to write a memoir memoir? I? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we could maybe eventually write like a cute
Speaker 1: book about our life with you being a teenage mom
Speaker 1: and our relationship and everything. But otherwise I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know of what unless we did a collab of
Speaker 1: like stories we've both written already in the gross room.
Speaker 1: But it's weird because because before I wrote my book,
Speaker 1: a lot of publishers that were contacting me wanted me
Speaker 1: to write like a memoir book, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: who cares about my life?
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I know everybody does it,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 1: It depends because I read a lot of books like that,
Speaker 1: and I've had a couple this year where I've started
Speaker 1: reading them and I've I've had to stop, which I am.
Speaker 2: If I start something, I finish it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: So like for me to stop reading a book is
Speaker 1: like it's really bad and I don't like it. And
Speaker 1: I've had a couple this year. But maybe it also
Speaker 1: because I think my life is like like you wouldn't
Speaker 1: even believe it. If well, I think if we compiled
Speaker 1: all the stories we tell on here that come up
Speaker 1: over time, you can make it very entertaining as anybody
Speaker 1: that has a semi large family and your unique journey
Speaker 1: and everything you have to do it in a storytelling.
Speaker 1: We really shit to bed with like every time, like
Speaker 1: especially with Popop.
Speaker 2: Because he's just prime entertainment we should have.
Speaker 1: Just like, so, Gabe is really good about this. Every
Speaker 1: single time either me or the kids say something funny,
Speaker 1: he writes it in his notes in his phone. And
Speaker 1: he's been doing it for ten years at least. He
Speaker 1: has a document that's so so so long. He goes
Speaker 1: back to it once in a while and like sends
Speaker 1: me a quote that I said in twenty fourteen or something.
Speaker 1: He thought it all the time, And like, if we
Speaker 1: did that with Popop and just wrote down like every
Speaker 1: single funny thing he said, because it happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I started doing it ten years ago and I called
Speaker 1: it Lewisms and the mom mom said he was getting
Speaker 1: pissed about it because he thought were making fun of
Speaker 1: them all we are, which we are, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the hilarious things you say and
Speaker 1: he just thinks.
Speaker 2: We just think, not of thinks. He says, it's just
Speaker 2: like the stories and everything, but.
Speaker 1: Because everything he says from his past just seems so
Speaker 1: ridiculous and made up, but then it all checks out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that could be a cool concept.
Speaker 1: All right, Why did you decide to do everything retro
Speaker 1: for the show, because that's just our style, That's always
Speaker 1: been our style. Yeah, we wanted it to have a
Speaker 1: vibe of like Donna Reed, like, you know, like just
Speaker 1: old school.
Speaker 2: Like sitcom kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We came up with the name first, and we
Speaker 1: knew kind of what we were gonna do, and then
Speaker 1: you have to kind of come up with a brand
Speaker 1: like any other business. You have to come up with
Speaker 1: a brand and colors and everything. So we wanted to
Speaker 1: keep it pink because that's everything with the doormatter and
Speaker 1: the grosser rooms pink. So you have to keep branding
Speaker 1: my house and seek. And then you know, the show
Speaker 1: was called Mother Knows Death. There used to be a
Speaker 1: sitcom called Father Knows Best. So I took influence from
Speaker 1: those old posters from the fifties to make our cover artwork.
Speaker 1: And then you just take little bits here and there
Speaker 1: and we found the song, which just made sense. I
Speaker 1: feel like the song took us a while though, because
Speaker 1: at first I was leaning more towards like an Ella
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald vibe, like a twenties, a more twenties vibe, you know. No,
Speaker 1: I always wanted I always wanted it to be super
Speaker 1: like campy, just because those shows are typically so you know,
Speaker 1: it reminds like I wanted it to have the vibe
Speaker 1: of like that, you know, that that diner place in
Speaker 1: Disney World, in Hollywood Studios, the Primetime ca Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just wanted it.
Speaker 1: To have like a super cheesy, like a wholesome feel,
Speaker 1: and then we're talking about like the nastiest stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly Like when we were when we were coming
Speaker 1: up with all of this stuff, I was watching like
Speaker 1: old episodes of Johnny Carson and The Tonight Show, like
Speaker 1: I forever and I don't know how we're gonna use
Speaker 1: this eventually, but I want to for something. I forever
Speaker 1: love that look of those curtains that are like, you know,
Speaker 1: the rainbow curtains that to me is iconic nineteen fifties television.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to use that look in some capacity.
Speaker 1: But we just did a lot of research and we thought.
Speaker 2: We ever get a set one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of this bobo that it's not you don't
Speaker 1: need to tell them that.
Speaker 2: You don't need to tell them you are trade secrets.
Speaker 1: But if you saw what was going on beyond the
Speaker 1: square frame, it is almost embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not.
Speaker 1: Really embarrassing for me because what's around the square frame
Speaker 1: is awesome in my office here, but it just like
Speaker 1: it's us, you know, and occasionally because it's like the
Speaker 1: desk I record on is my makeup vanity and everything.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you guys notice that if you watch
Speaker 1: on YouTube, occasionally I'll like beat speaking animated with my
Speaker 1: hands and then I'll like hit something and knock me.
Speaker 1: And a couple episodes ago, I don't even think you
Speaker 1: noticed this because it happened so fast, But I was
Speaker 1: touching up my eyebrows in between our ad break and
Speaker 1: I lifted my arm and my my eyebrow brush was
Speaker 1: stuck on my sweater and I just pulled it off
Speaker 1: like nothing happened.
Speaker 2: Nobody said anything about it, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst thing that happens in my video is
Speaker 1: that there's always like a fruit fly in front of
Speaker 1: my face or something. This one's been chasing me around
Speaker 1: this whole week, Like I see it right now, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's like hanging around me, like maybe it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's like a ghost or something. It's like my grandpap
Speaker 1: just trying to like look over me. I don't know,
Speaker 1: just trying to swat them. I'm serious, Like, I just
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't find where it's coming from, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I have a plant right here.
Speaker 1: There's no fungus nuts anywhere in any of the plants
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I can't tell where it's coming from. It's driving me
Speaker 1: freakin nuts. And I see it like you probably can't
Speaker 1: even do you see it in the video when you look.
Speaker 1: I don't see it when I look, I own, but
Speaker 1: like when it's like this, I'm just like, no, you
Speaker 1: can't really see it because they're so small. All right.
Speaker 1: Do you ever listen to music while performing autop season?
Speaker 2: If so?
Speaker 1: What? Oh? Yeah, we used to. It depends because when
Speaker 1: when I was working at the hospital, we would have
Speaker 1: residents that would rotate every month, so it would depend
Speaker 1: on who was on that month. Because I was on
Speaker 1: every day and then every month we would have a
Speaker 1: new person. So do you remember Jeffrey, Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was awesome. We used to listen to like Whitney Houston
Speaker 1: and shit, and then Frank we used to listen, Oh, Frank.
Speaker 1: We listened to like Stevie Wonder and like the Drifters
Speaker 1: and stuff like really cool stuff.
Speaker 2: And then we would just it just would depend.
Speaker 1: But always it's always like stuff that's like gen pop
Speaker 1: music kind of you know, because you know you're in
Speaker 1: a room with a bunch of people, you can't be
Speaker 1: listening to anything outrageous.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we didn't. We would just depend who was working,
Speaker 2: you know. All right, do you.
Speaker 1: Doctors outside of your department ever come to the Morgue?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: I used to encourage it all the time, especially I
Speaker 1: had a pretty close relationship with a lot of the
Speaker 1: surgeons at the hospital, So if I was ever doing
Speaker 1: an autopsy on one of their patients or something, I
Speaker 1: would encourage them to come look if they wanted to look.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they do. They they do often from all
Speaker 2: different floors, from surgery, medicine, whatever. They all come down.
Speaker 1: And we used to have a really cool conference once
Speaker 1: a month that we had a lot of the staff,
Speaker 1: physicians and the residents and medical students come down to
Speaker 1: look at the autop season.
Speaker 2: I know they do that at.
Speaker 1: Other hospitals too, So we would save all of the
Speaker 1: interesting organs from interesting cases we had throughout the month
Speaker 1: and also from surgical specimens as well, and then we
Speaker 1: would present like ten cases a month and show the
Speaker 1: organs and just show exactly how the person died. We
Speaker 1: would talk about their you know, their age, their medical
Speaker 1: history and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It was really, really, it was really awesome.
Speaker 1: And really that's that's the best way for doctors to
Speaker 1: learn because a lot of times we're just seeing like
Speaker 1: MRIs and CT scants and stuff, and for them to
Speaker 1: actually see the organ and really be able to touch
Speaker 1: it and everything, it's just like so magical. All right,
Speaker 1: this is our last question, which what's a typical day
Speaker 1: in the lab or the morgue look like? Well, they
Speaker 1: are both different typical days. So if if you're working
Speaker 1: in the lab in the gross room in the hospital,
Speaker 1: that is pretty much that could change too, but there's
Speaker 1: only so much you could do there. So you know,
Speaker 1: you walk in in the morning, you have your coffee, everything,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have coffee in the lab.
Speaker 2: I did every day because like, how could you not
Speaker 2: have coffee day?
Speaker 1: Right, It's hard because you're not supposed to drink and
Speaker 1: eat in the lab. But I'm a rule breaker like that,
Speaker 1: so you would come in. And so what happens is
Speaker 1: when the specimens come in from the floor, there's usually
Speaker 1: an employee that works there, like a secretarial type of
Speaker 1: labb aid type of position, and they put all of
Speaker 1: the specimens into the computer and they give them special
Speaker 1: numbers that are like our pathology numbers. So the first
Speaker 1: specimen that comes in on January first is number one,
Speaker 1: and then by the end of the year you could
Speaker 1: be at like number eighty thousand. Like it just depends
Speaker 1: on the volume at the hospital and they get the
Speaker 1: special numbers, and then we get them, the pas get
Speaker 1: them and were And like I said, this range is
Speaker 1: depending on what you get at what hospital. So they
Speaker 1: can range anything small like a biopsy you get when
Speaker 1: you get a colonoscopy, all the way up to like
Speaker 1: a large colon resection for cancer, and those obviously take longer.
Speaker 1: So let's say, for example, we had a colon cancer case.
Speaker 1: You would pull out the colon and you would look
Speaker 1: at it and you would measure it, and then you
Speaker 1: would give a description what's called a gross description, so
Speaker 1: like what it looks like exactly, because you have to
Speaker 1: think about this, like the pathologists is getting the slides
Speaker 1: and they're not seeing the specimen ever, so you have
Speaker 1: to write it in such a way that they could
Speaker 1: visualize what you're looking at. And sometimes that's a little
Speaker 1: bit easier said than done. Then we you know, during
Speaker 1: our training, we learned special sections that we take to
Speaker 1: show the pathologists because that's how they're able to determine,
Speaker 1: like they figure out what stage a person is of
Speaker 1: cancer and what grade the tumors and things like that,
Speaker 1: and if it's spread, if it's confined, all those types
Speaker 1: of things. So we take special sections and then we
Speaker 1: usually give those little cassettes that we take the sections
Speaker 1: to the histology lab and they're the ones that make
Speaker 1: the slides for the doctors. There's other times too that
Speaker 1: we can get specimens from people that are open in
Speaker 1: the operating room because the surgeon needs to know exactly
Speaker 1: what we're looking at so they can it kind of
Speaker 1: guides the course of their surgery. And when they do
Speaker 1: that that's called the frozen section. So we get that
Speaker 1: and we have to make the slide like right away,
Speaker 1: and we're really supposed to do it within twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of getting it into the lab, and then we bring
Speaker 1: it to the pathologists and look at it with the pathologists.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much the typical day of working in
Speaker 1: the gross room. It doesn't really change much from place
Speaker 1: to place. And then if you're doing autopsy, so some
Speaker 1: places you could do all autopsy job or some like
Speaker 1: when I did it, it was just like I did
Speaker 1: all the autopsies and then when I didn't have a
Speaker 1: fruit flies back. You say it, you say it, oh
Speaker 1: my god. It it depends, it depends. But like I
Speaker 1: would do all the autopsies, then when I didn't have
Speaker 1: an autopsy, I would go upstairs and do surgical specimens
Speaker 1: like di sect the legs or whatever or help out
Speaker 1: up there. But when you when you do an autopsy,
Speaker 1: you it's it's just like a totally different thing. You
Speaker 1: come in and they'll say you have an autopsy, and
Speaker 1: like the very first thing you have to do is
Speaker 1: just make sure that all the PaperWorks squared away. And
Speaker 1: that can often be a bitch because you have to
Speaker 1: have the legal nexicicin to sign it, and the doctors
Speaker 1: on the floor like always wrong. They always fill out
Speaker 1: the death certificate wrong. They always get the wrong person
Speaker 1: to sign it. Then you have to track them down
Speaker 1: and get like it's it's just a lot of like
Speaker 1: silly work. And then you know, once you're okay to go,
Speaker 1: you go down to the Morgan, do the autopsy and
Speaker 1: put the body back and then you're done.
Speaker 2: Well that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for all of your questions,
Speaker 1: and we will continue as always to do the three
Speaker 1: questions at the end of every news episode. So don't
Speaker 1: forget every Friday on the app Mother Nose Death Instagram
Speaker 1: account to submit your questions and we will see you
Speaker 1: probably in the summer again with our other I guess
Speaker 1: it's a bi annual questions episode, right, because we typically
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I don't even.
Speaker 1: Remember we did one in the summer, did we. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did it when we went to California.
Speaker 2: Okay, gee, it's our vacation question episode. Yeah basic, All right,
Speaker 2: see you guys later.
Speaker 1: Ya, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As
Speaker 1: a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant. I
Speaker 1: have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and
Speaker 1: pathology education. I am not a doctor and I have
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