WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Quinn Buckner, Turnovers 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:05.200 Sports Radio Final Hour. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.080 On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.200 We'll check in with the Pacers. Quinn Buckner, their broadcaster 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.680 former NBA player, will join us as Pacers are a 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.840 win away from going to the NBA Finals, thanks in 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:23.800 large part to Tyre's Halliburton thirty two, fifteen and twelve rebounds. Tonight, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.080 the Timberwolves holding on for dear life. The Thunderer went 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.480 away from going to the NBA Finals. Minnesota is getting 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.000 eight and a half. The Oilers up three to one 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.720 on the Stars Panthers Hurricanes. That's game five. Panthers up 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.240 three to one in that one. And Shohyotani that's three 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.040 games in a row with a home run. He now 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.360 has twenty on the season. Eight seven seven to three. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.000 DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot Com, Twitter handle a 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.280 DP show. The stat of the Day has always brought 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.760 you my Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.000 Say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.920 downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.720 We'll get to those phone calls coming up as we 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.200 make way for the man they call buck He is 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.479 Quinn Buckner, the Pacers color analyst, former NBA player, joining 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.280 us on the program. Quinn, great to see you again. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.080 How would you do we have him? 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.200 I think we need a minute. I think we got 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.039 to call it twenty for mister Buckner. He just needs Okay, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.640 we had him for a second. Then all right, we 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:27.280 lost him? 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.200 Okay, Oh I did I commit a turnover there? 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.880 I think it was a not on your side? Oh okay, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.280 little technical issue. Still looking at a triple double though, yes, yeah, cool, yeah, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.160 but I can't have a triple double without a turnover here. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.800 I can't join Tyrese Haliburton. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.520 We got to see how they credit that in the 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:44.600 box score there? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.080 What is the poll question for the final hour. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.200 How many MVPs will show hey Tani finish his career with? 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.040 Right now, four has forty percent of that vote. It 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.040 actually goes exactly in order four or five, six, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.280 then seven with just twelve percent of that vote. And 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.720 we also have up there, which team down three to 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.640 one is most done? Timberwolves running away with that one, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.520 followed actually pretty closely by Hurricanes, followed pretty closely by 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.480 the Knicks. People believe most in the Stars. They only 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:13.920 have nine percent of that vote. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.120 Yes, Paul, I was thinking if anyone ever had a 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.880 triple double with turnovers included, I know that would not 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.080 be a positive one, but it'd still be a triple double. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.520 I wonder about the most turnovers by a player in 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.799 an NBA game? Do you think it's more than ten? 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.160 But is that part of your triple double? That you 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.120 had points, rebounds, turnovers. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.480 It's not positive, but it counts as a triple double. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.960 Well, there was one player, was it Nate Thurman who 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:46.360 had a quadruple double? Did he have points, rebounds. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:46.800 Blocks, and assistments? 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:48.400 Maybe? 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.079 I think had a couple of those. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:51.720 Did he really? 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:52.000 Yeah? 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:57.919 I think had two quad quad doubles. Okay, quad dubs. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:05.440 They would be quadruple doubles. And you had a qdum 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:06.120 out there. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:08.799 For checking. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.080 Uh auto in Los Angeles? Hi, Otto, what's on your 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.400 mind today? 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:16.040 Hi? 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:16.799 You doing, guys? 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.640 I had to write about the NFL schedule, but I 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.160 wanted to say something about the New York Knicks. About 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.320 Boomer saying about the celebrities, I kind of agreed with 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.560 him because Game one it looked like a freaking high 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.200 school homecoming basketball game and had all the former stars there. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.160 Everybody's high five and clapping, and then they thought it 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.800 was sweet and then ended up losing that game. So 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.040 I think it's something to do with it. As far 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.400 as the NFL. I'm a Charger season ticket holder, and 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.800 the Chiefs start coming out here for the home game 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.600 because they're in freaking Brazil. So do you think the 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.920 NFL should be scheduling NFL Ribery Division games out of country? 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:03.080 No? I don't, but the NFL doesn't care what we think. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.760 And you know, I brought this up when they started 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.760 to do this. You know, we were gonna do more 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.320 NFL games in Europe around the world, and I said, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.720 you are going the NFL will create a schedule that 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.400 will be international games, an entire schedule for international games. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.280 And that's exactly what they've done. So now you can, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.880 you know, bid that out, and then you know networks 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.560 are gonna spend billions of dollars on that. Quinn Buckner, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.320 Pacers TV color analyst, former NBA player, joining us on 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.359 the program. Buck Good to see you. How would you 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.160 describe the atmosphere last night? 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:38.240 Very much? 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.480 I wouldn't say chaotic. It was fun. It really is exciting. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.160 You know, basketball is a big part of what the 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.880 state of Indiana is about. You know, it's in the 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.359 ethos of the of all of the fans, and so 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.280 to see the Pacers at this stage, I mean, as 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.799 you know, and those at watch Reggie's there, Jermaine O'Neill 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.640 is their lances there. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.480 I mean, you've got a number of the guy Danny Granger. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.360 Who had not been back came to the game and 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.320 excuse me and Triple H. I'm not into wrestling, but 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.760 that's a big deal for Reggie. I'm not so Reggie, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.520 but for Tyrese because Tyres is a big wrestling fan. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.040 So you got all of that going and John Mellencamp. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.599 It was it was a lot of fun, just a 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:20.080 lot of fun. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:26.160 Much more iconic Reggie's choke to Spike Lee or Tyrese 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.960 Halliburton recreated that choke. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.200 Well, the fact that he recreated it is pretty creative 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.920 on his part, but well it's not creative, but it's 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.720 something that he wanted to do. But I have to 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.280 say Reggie's is by far the most iconic. I don't 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.600 think there's any question about. First of all, that's say 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.480 points nine seconds. That's a huge difference when you look 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.000 at it. Even though tyrese got it going, could have 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.520 moved that footback and make the shot. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.479 But I'll tell you what this is. This kid is. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.960 He's not a kid, he's a young man, but he 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.279 really gets what winning basketball is about, and it's it's 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.080 important for him to share it with his teammates. And 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.400 that's one of the reasons why this team can run, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.360 because guys will run if you know you're gonna get 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.440 the ball, and he will throw the ball to you. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.000 And he does it very uniquely. He even admitted he's 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.400 one of the few guys in the league that does 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.200 a lot of jump passes, which for many of the 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.479 older generation understand that was something that was taboo. But 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.200 he has the ability to find a pathway to deliver 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.719 his teammates the ball. And equally important, his teammates understand 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.800 if he gets in the air, you gotta get open 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.720 because you don't want him to travel with it, so 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.479 they make an effort to give him the space and 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.760 then from there it's knocking down the shot. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.560 He's got swagger, but he's likable, like he doesn't have 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.480 that you know where you don't like him because he's 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:45.040 so cocky. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.880 Excuse me, typical view. That's a great observation. You're very observant. Yeah, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.039 he really does. And that's why he can play with 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.040 his teammates and they're not jealous because he's not trying 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.160 to take the limelight and carry it for himself off. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.359 It really is his pride in how he plays and 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.159 plays for his team and plays for the guys. He's 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.160 big on his guys. As a human being. When you're 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.520 around it, he lights up a room. He wants to 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.720 make sure everybody is comfortable. All those kinds of things 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.400 that you like about human being. He makes sure he 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.040 engages you everybody, and I mean top to bottom. Pardon me, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.920 including those if you will, because I've always watched guys 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.360 to try to see how they treat if you will, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.680 the back office, the back room, how do you treat 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.960 people there? This guy is the same with everyone. And 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.880 when he gets on the court, you know, guys, I 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.600 have to understand. He's just a really good guy. It 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.760 just happened to be one heck of a basketball player. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:43.800 Can the Knicks come back? 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.280 Can is a word that you can use on it 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:48.960 at any time. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.400 I think the pace is are hard for the Knicks 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.120 to play against because the Knicks are more of. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.640 Their slower paced team, which is typical. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.679 This is what's unusual about this to me and maybe 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.280 you because you watched the sports Mini sports, but this one. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.240 The game typically slows down in the playoffs, and the 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.320 further you go, as I was fortunate enough to do 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.880 with the Celtics and others, the further you go up 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.920 that ladder, the more it slows down. The Pacers have 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.760 managed to maintain their pace for the most part the 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.920 game they lost. They lost the pace at the end 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.160 of I think it was the first half, in the 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.720 beginning of the third quarter, and it caused them a problem. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.160 With this kind of pace, it's going to make it very, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.040 very difficult. But you know, can is a word, but 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.520 I don't know it's gonna really. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.959 He's Queen Buckner, the Pacers TV color analyst. You were 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:44.000 prominently featured in the Celtics documentary. A couple of stories 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.080 stood out. When your wife wanted to know how confident 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.400 Larry was going into the game seven in nineteen eighty four. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.480 Yeah, she was very concerned about that, and Larry, We're 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.000 gonna win, and Larry just gets out of the car 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.120 like we all do. Get out of the car. Yeah, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.320 and just keeps walking. I mean he did. He just 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.960 kept walking, and my wife, I think, felt better about 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.320 the whole situation. But that that is Larry, yesterday, today, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.000 and tomorrow. He is the ultimate confident guy. But Larry 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.840 looks at it. He's just playing a basketball game. He 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.920 never looked at it like I said, you know, he 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.920 knows this seventh game, but he just does that. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.079 But he also had that ability. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.600 To I think, maintain that that presence, that that that 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.280 confidence because he knows it helps his teammates. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.920 Also, you were there in New Orleans when Larry, when 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:41.800 Larry went off against the Hawks, and. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.240 To Dan, it was one of the most I've been 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.200 been blessed to be around the sport for many years, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.280 and I'm gonna say more than four decades, I have never. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.880 Seen anything like it. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.920 It was one of the great athletic perform great performances. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.600 I don't go to plays or anything like that, but 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.360 he did it. He did it simply. And when I 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.439 see Dominique over there, guys on the bench giving each 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.840 other five because he's taken a shot, He's got no 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.960 business taken He's got guys draped on him, and he 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.480 makes it and just runs down like he's breathing. You know, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.400 he's just breathing. It's just the next shot. But the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.480 proverbials on. He was there, and you know, the blessing 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.280 for me quite frankly, and I'm a little selfish in 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.520 this thought because I was there to witness it. But 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.559 I'm telling you it was one of the great performances 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.800 I have ever seen. And I happen to be blessed 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.760 enough to be around the Bulls in the nineties, but 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.760 this was something that was just unbelievable. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.040 But you played with Larry, you're good friends with Michael Jordan. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.439 Can you compare and contrast their competitiveness. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.599 Oh, they were equally competitive. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.800 I don't know if you can really say one is 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.400 more competitive than the other. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.880 I only think about when. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.760 People ask that question, and they don't often because I 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.000 don't want I don't really delve into it. Larry, and 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.040 for those who you were religious, don't don't don't take 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.120 this the wrong way. Michael got sixty three on the Bulls, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.160 I mean on the on the Celtics in the playoffs, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.680 and Larry had somebody asked him about Michael Jordan, he said, well, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.480 Michael Jordan's a basketball players like he basically said he 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:08.840 was God. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:14.400 Larry had never seen anything like this. Larry enjoys winning. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.480 They both are very very They're smart as all get out. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:24.120 They read people at a high level. But getting those 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.400 two and this is this is one of those two 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.920 death kind of things. You get those two against each 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.920 other is to the death of both of them, not 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.719 one of them, to both of them, because that's how 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.400 competitive they are. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.040 Today's NBA. If you could tweak I'll give you, I'll 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.920 let you be commissioner for a day. You can tweak 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.520 one thing or change one thing. What would you do? 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.760 That's an interesting question. I'm not sure I would. I 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.920 played in the air that was much more physical. Uh, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.400 these guys are supremely more talented than those generation is 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.240 in the eighties and the nineties. The three point shooting, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.600 I think is going to it will taper to the 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:11.160 degree that you have more capable player shooting. Some teams 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.280 have guys shoot the ball, some people have shooters, and 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.600 some people have makers. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.240 Okay, there'll be more less people. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.600 Shooting the ball that can't make it, and I think 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.559 that will make the game not probably even more interesting, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.560 but I just like the evolution of the game and 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.679 how how it's grown. Dan I did not take to 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.640 it quite frankly when it first sappened. Dick Vitel, the 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.439 great vict Dick Vitel, I think you work with him, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.120 so you know, Dick, he was on this from the 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.040 very beginning and thought it would change the game. I 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.840 think it's more exciting for fans. I think the players 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.000 are are much more excited about it and like to 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.640 do it. But there's some guys, you know, you just 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.800 you want to just shoot it because they're not going 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.040 to make it. So there's not anything necessarily that I 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.679 would change from the game. I'm you know, I'm sure 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.800 I had and his crew. He's spending many hours on that. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.360 I don't anybody compared to Steph Curry that you saw 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.520 no prior to No No, no No. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.640 And I got to give Mark Jackson credit when he 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.120 and I remember him saying this, Mark played for the 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.439 Pacers for those of you who don't know, and it 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.000 was a great guard from New York. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.200 He said when he got him, he said. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.560 These are the two best shooting heat guards maybe in 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.720 the history of basketball. Steph is so unusual because Steph 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:34.120 can't get his and he is never he's in terrific shape, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.160 which I think is a factor. Quite frankly, as we 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.360 talk about New York and the Pacers play can't get it, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.480 but if he get it, he's gonna make it. He 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.640 played against the Pacers one game and I'm not proud 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.520 of this, and I don't think anybody in the organization is. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.480 He got sixty points and twenty nine minutes on eleven dribbles, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.240 and it was It was an unbelievable performance. Now Steph's 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.560 gonna take more dribbles than that, but he's capable of 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:57.280 doing that on it. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.880 I mean at that time, on any game of the night. Obviously, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:00.760 you move into your. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.280 Thirties, you're not There's nobody that ever compared to what 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.160 Steph does because most guys are shooting, were shooters in 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.280 earlier times, but they didn't have the ball handling skills 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:11.839 quite as effective as he does. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.400 There's going to come a day where Larry Bird's not 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.400 one of the top ten players of all time. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.080 I don't know about that. I don't know about that one. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.120 Dan. I am telling you that Larry is is. There's 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.600 a uniqueness about him. But I tell you who is comparable. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.760 And Larry said, there's only one guy he watches flight. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.160 It's Jokis, And if you look at him, the difference 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.240 is Yokich is longer, but that's about it. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.640 And longer and that's not about it. He's taller. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.440 They play and whatever talent they have on their team, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.200 those guys play at a higher level for having played 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.920 with Larry. I knew it because I did and I 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.160 watched Yokis do that. But getting Larry out of the 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.240 top ten, now you're not gonna I may be biased, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.560 but I don't think so. I just think if you 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.680 look at pure basketball players, Larry bird is as pure 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.760 basketball players, you're ever gonna. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.320 Find nothing he could not do. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.240 You know, can't jump, can't run, beat you get your 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.280 triple double, the whole nine yards. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.520 No, Larry's staying in the top ten. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.280 If it ends up Pacers and Oka See, how does 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:22.960 Indiana win? 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.800 The benches got to be really good because okay See 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.720 plays ten to eleven players and they all contribute. And 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.760 this is what I think is for me what I 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.680 enjoyed watching. In terms of the coaching, Rick has done 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.320 a terrific job and you can go you know nine, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.240 he has gone ten and you get some really good performance. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.200 Oka See has eleven guys that they may throw out there. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.160 Everybody may have a specialty, but they star in their roles. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.400 The others have to star in their roles on the Pacers. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.760 I think Matherin's consistency off the bench. He had twenty 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.840 last night, but he struggled for the previous games. That's 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.920 got to have some concert and see fifteen to eighteen 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.440 points a game, and you're going to have to get 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.600 a lot more out of top and all of that, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.560 because okay See can score the ball, but they're the 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.040 best defensive they may be the best defensive team. Well, 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.680 I think left they really challenge you and they can 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.720 run with you and get back in transition. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.480 It is. It would be a very difficult series. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.080 Thanks for holding up your golf game. I'm sure you're 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.680 headed to the golf course, right. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.720 You called it all right, I appreciate it. That always 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:33.280 good to tell you. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.080 Thank you. 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Stanley Cup odds it's pretty competitive with the 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.400 Oilers and the Panthers obviously up three games to one, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.760 followed by the Stars and Hurricanes. They are well down 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.600 the list. Timberwolves are getting eight and a half tonight 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.800 with the Thunder in Okase sing Time to play a 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.119 quick NBA game. Paulie is your host. Do we have 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.280 some music here, Marvin? 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.240 Course, of course, game show music for you. That which 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.320 NBA player had the most turnovers in a single game 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.119 in NBA history And how many did that person have? 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.879 And would anyone like a hint? Yeah, it happened in 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.920 the last within the last twenty five years. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.560 What position did they play? 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:55.840 He was a point guard? 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:57.919 Okay, what's a point guard? 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:58.840 Was a point guard? 0:18:58.920 --> 0:18:59.080 Yeah? 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.760 See, I shall guess was a Russell Westbrook type. Yeah, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.439 because they're like ball dominant, they need the ball a 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.440 lot and they get a lot of minutes, they would 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.400 be in a position to turn the ball over many, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:13.160 many times. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.960 Yes, that is incorrect. However, I'm gonna give you two 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:21.040 bonus points because Russell Westbrook had eleven turnovers three different 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:21.840 times in his career. 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:22.800 That's pretty high. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.920 But he did not. I'm going to go James Harden 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.000 another good guess. You're getting a couple bonus points. James 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.359 Harden had twelve turnovers one time in his career, and 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:38.800 that's third all time. Here's a little fun part of 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.880 the game. The guys who are in second and third 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:47.280