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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.

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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with the Pacers. Quinn Buckner, their broadcaster

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Speaker 2: former NBA player, will join us as Pacers are a

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Speaker 2: win away from going to the NBA Finals, thanks in

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Speaker 2: large part to Tyre's Halliburton thirty two, fifteen and twelve rebounds. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves holding on for dear life. The Thunderer went

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Speaker 2: away from going to the NBA Finals. Minnesota is getting

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Speaker 2: eight and a half. The Oilers up three to one

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Speaker 2: on the Stars Panthers Hurricanes. That's game five. Panthers up

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Speaker 2: three to one in that one. And Shohyotani that's three

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Speaker 2: games in a row with a home run. He now

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Speaker 2: has twenty on the season. Eight seven seven to three.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to those phone calls coming up as we

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Speaker 2: make way for the man they call buck He is

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Speaker 2: Quinn Buckner, the Pacers color analyst, former NBA player, joining

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Speaker 2: us on the program. Quinn, great to see you again.

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Speaker 2: How would you do we have him?

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Speaker 3: I think we need a minute. I think we got

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Speaker 3: to call it twenty for mister Buckner. He just needs Okay,

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Speaker 3: we had him for a second. Then all right, we

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Speaker 3: lost him?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh I did I commit a turnover there?

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Speaker 3: I think it was a not on your side? Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: little technical issue. Still looking at a triple double though, yes, yeah, cool, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I can't have a triple double without a turnover here.

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Speaker 3: I can't join Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 4: We got to see how they credit that in the

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Speaker 4: box score there?

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Speaker 2: What is the poll question for the final hour.

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Speaker 4: How many MVPs will show hey Tani finish his career with?

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Speaker 4: Right now, four has forty percent of that vote. It

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Speaker 4: actually goes exactly in order four or five, six, and

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Speaker 4: then seven with just twelve percent of that vote. And

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Speaker 4: we also have up there, which team down three to

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Speaker 4: one is most done? Timberwolves running away with that one,

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Speaker 4: followed actually pretty closely by Hurricanes, followed pretty closely by

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Speaker 4: the Knicks. People believe most in the Stars. They only

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Speaker 4: have nine percent of that vote.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, I was thinking if anyone ever had a

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Speaker 3: triple double with turnovers included, I know that would not

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Speaker 3: be a positive one, but it'd still be a triple double.

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Speaker 3: I wonder about the most turnovers by a player in

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Speaker 3: an NBA game? Do you think it's more than ten?

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Speaker 2: But is that part of your triple double? That you

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Speaker 2: had points, rebounds, turnovers.

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Speaker 3: It's not positive, but it counts as a triple double.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was one player, was it Nate Thurman who

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Speaker 2: had a quadruple double? Did he have points, rebounds.

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Speaker 3: Blocks, and assistments?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: I think had a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: Did he really?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think had two quad quad doubles. Okay, quad dubs.

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Speaker 2: They would be quadruple doubles. And you had a qdum

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Speaker 3: For checking.

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Speaker 2: Uh auto in Los Angeles? Hi, Otto, what's on your

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 5: You doing, guys?

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Speaker 7: I had to write about the NFL schedule, but I

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Speaker 7: wanted to say something about the New York Knicks. About

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Speaker 7: him because Game one it looked like a freaking high

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Speaker 7: school homecoming basketball game and had all the former stars there.

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Speaker 7: Everybody's high five and clapping, and then they thought it

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Speaker 7: I think it's something to do with it. As far

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Speaker 7: as the NFL. I'm a Charger season ticket holder, and

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Speaker 7: because they're in freaking Brazil. So do you think the

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Speaker 2: No? I don't, but the NFL doesn't care what we think.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I brought this up when they started

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they've done. So now you can,

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Speaker 2: you know, bid that out, and then you know networks

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Speaker 2: the program. Buck Good to see you. How would you

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Speaker 2: describe the atmosphere last night?

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Speaker 5: Very much?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say chaotic. It was fun. It really is exciting.

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Speaker 6: You know, basketball is a big part of what the

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Speaker 6: ethos of the of all of the fans, and so

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Speaker 6: to see the Pacers at this stage, I mean, as

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Speaker 5: I mean, you've got a number of the guy Danny Granger.

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Speaker 6: Who had not been back came to the game and

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Speaker 6: excuse me and Triple H. I'm not into wrestling, but

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Speaker 6: that's a big deal for Reggie. I'm not so Reggie,

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Speaker 6: but for Tyrese because Tyres is a big wrestling fan.

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Speaker 6: So you got all of that going and John Mellencamp.

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Speaker 6: It was it was a lot of fun, just a

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Speaker 2: Much more iconic Reggie's choke to Spike Lee or Tyrese

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Speaker 2: Halliburton recreated that choke.

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Speaker 6: Well, the fact that he recreated it is pretty creative

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Speaker 6: say Reggie's is by far the most iconic. I don't

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Speaker 6: think there's any question about. First of all, that's say

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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what this is. This kid is.

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Speaker 6: He's not a kid, he's a young man, but he

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Speaker 6: really gets what winning basketball is about, and it's it's

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Speaker 6: important for him to share it with his teammates. And

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Speaker 6: that's one of the reasons why this team can run,

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Speaker 6: because guys will run if you know you're gonna get

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Speaker 6: And he does it very uniquely. He even admitted he's

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Speaker 6: he has the ability to find a pathway to deliver

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Speaker 6: then from there it's knocking down the shot.

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Speaker 2: He's got swagger, but he's likable, like he doesn't have

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, typical view. That's a great observation. You're very observant. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he really does. And that's why he can play with

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Speaker 6: It really is his pride in how he plays and

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Speaker 6: plays for his team and plays for the guys. He's

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Speaker 6: big on his guys. As a human being. When you're

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Speaker 6: make sure everybody is comfortable. All those kinds of things

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Speaker 6: that you like about human being. He makes sure he

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Speaker 6: including those if you will, because I've always watched guys

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Speaker 6: to try to see how they treat if you will,

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Speaker 6: the back office, the back room, how do you treat

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Speaker 6: when he gets on the court, you know, guys, I

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Speaker 6: have to understand. He's just a really good guy. It

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Speaker 6: just happened to be one heck of a basketball player.

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Speaker 2: Can the Knicks come back?

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Speaker 5: Can is a word that you can use on it

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Speaker 5: at any time.

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Speaker 6: I think the pace is are hard for the Knicks

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Speaker 5: Their slower paced team, which is typical.

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Speaker 6: This is what's unusual about this to me and maybe

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Speaker 6: The game typically slows down in the playoffs, and the

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Speaker 6: with the Celtics and others, the further you go up

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Speaker 6: that ladder, the more it slows down. The Pacers have

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Speaker 6: managed to maintain their pace for the most part the

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Speaker 6: of I think it was the first half, in the

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Speaker 6: With this kind of pace, it's going to make it very,

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Speaker 6: very difficult. But you know, can is a word, but

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Speaker 6: I don't know it's gonna really.

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Speaker 2: He's Queen Buckner, the Pacers TV color analyst. You were

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Speaker 2: prominently featured in the Celtics documentary. A couple of stories

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Speaker 2: stood out. When your wife wanted to know how confident

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Speaker 2: Larry was going into the game seven in nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she was very concerned about that, and Larry, We're

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Speaker 6: gonna win, and Larry just gets out of the car

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Speaker 6: like we all do. Get out of the car. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and just keeps walking. I mean he did. He just

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Speaker 6: the whole situation. But that that is Larry, yesterday, today,

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Speaker 6: and tomorrow. He is the ultimate confident guy. But Larry

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Speaker 6: looks at it. He's just playing a basketball game. He

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Speaker 6: never looked at it like I said, you know, he

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Speaker 5: But he also had that ability.

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Speaker 6: To I think, maintain that that presence, that that that

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Speaker 2: Also, you were there in New Orleans when Larry, when

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Speaker 2: Larry went off against the Hawks, and.

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Speaker 6: To Dan, it was one of the most I've been

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Speaker 6: and I'm gonna say more than four decades, I have never.

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Speaker 5: Seen anything like it.

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Speaker 6: It was one of the great athletic perform great performances.

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Speaker 6: I don't go to plays or anything like that, but

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Speaker 6: he did it. He did it simply. And when I

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Speaker 6: see Dominique over there, guys on the bench giving each

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Speaker 6: other five because he's taken a shot, He's got no

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Speaker 6: makes it and just runs down like he's breathing. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's just breathing. It's just the next shot. But the

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Speaker 6: proverbials on. He was there, and you know, the blessing

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Speaker 6: for me quite frankly, and I'm a little selfish in

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Speaker 6: this thought because I was there to witness it. But

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you it was one of the great performances

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Speaker 6: enough to be around the Bulls in the nineties, but

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Speaker 6: this was something that was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But you played with Larry, you're good friends with Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Can you compare and contrast their competitiveness.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they were equally competitive.

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Speaker 6: Oka See has eleven guys that they may throw out there.

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Speaker 3: Course, of course, game show music for you. That which

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Speaker 2: What position did they play?

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Speaker 3: He was a point guard?

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Speaker 3: Was a point guard?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is incorrect. However, I'm gonna give you two

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Speaker 10: That's pretty high.

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Speaker 3: Giannis had twelve turnovers in a game three years ago,

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Speaker 2: Holder, Molly, that's not the record holder.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin Paul you said was a point guard.

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Speaker 3: When he played, he was a point guard. He no

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Speaker 3: Jason Kidd is correct, nicely done. Jason Kidd had fourteen

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Speaker 3: coverage rated. Who else had quad dubs in NBA history?

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Speaker 3: They all happened between nineteen seventy four and nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: Does that take care of two of the four?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Four different players?

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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy four.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, Mark.

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Speaker 3: David Robinson is correct. Thirty four points, ten rebounds, TENNISI

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty six. This gentleman did it with twenty points,

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Speaker 2: Yes, Warvin, Alvin Robertson.

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Speaker 6: Come on.

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Speaker 3: Here, get out of here?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you looking? Are you looking at it?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 3: Come on, don't. Marvin doesn't cheat. I've seen him do

445
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Speaker 3: a lot of good answers here and he does not cheat.

446
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Speaker 2: Are you saying there's somebody who does cheat? No? No, okay.

447
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Speaker 2: It just felt like Marvin was on an island that

448
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Speaker 2: he doesn't cheat.

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Speaker 3: So Jason Kidd, who we just had on the show,

450
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Speaker 3: is he in the quad dub League?

451
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Speaker 2: I should have brought up the quad dubbed claud Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Patrick in Indianapolis, Hi, Patrick, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: First time? Longtime?

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Speaker 10: Six for one seive.

455
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Speaker 11: So about two years ago, I was watching part of

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Speaker 11: the interruption and Mike Wilbond was talking about how he

457
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Speaker 11: was just.

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Speaker 5: Speaking with Quinn Buckner.

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Speaker 11: I'm a police officer, and the very next day I

460
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Speaker 11: had an interaction with the man, no fault of his own,

461
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Speaker 11: he did nothing wrong, but I thought I recognized him,

462
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Speaker 11: so I asked him his name and it was mister Buckner.

463
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Speaker 11: I was starstruck and I told him it was nice

464
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Speaker 11: to meet him, and how I feel like I'm friends

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Speaker 11: with Mike Wilbon and Quinn Buckner even though they have

466
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Speaker 11: no idea who I am.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking Micoll, Thank you, officer. Yeah, by proxy,

468
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Speaker 2: I'm friends because your friends. And now I'm friends with

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Speaker 2: Michael Viilba Wilbin. Are we going to play the NFL

470
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game?

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a kind of I was thinking about

472
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Speaker 3: this with Kirk Cousins. He's at two hundred and eighty

473
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Speaker 3: eight career touchdown passes. That's pretty high level stuff. He's

474
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Speaker 3: eighteenth all time. Let's say he gets another shot with

475
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Speaker 3: another team, it finishes in the three to twenty range.

476
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Speaker 2: No, you'd have to win a super Bowl, right, But

477
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Speaker 2: who is the Statistically he's not getting in. But if

478
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Speaker 2: he wins, if he wins the Super Bowl, then I

479
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Speaker 2: could say, okay, maybe, okay.

480
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Speaker 3: The question out this list is I have the list

481
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Speaker 3: of the most touchdown passes in history. Which quarterback is

482
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Speaker 3: not getting in that has more than three hundred touchdowns?

483
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Speaker 3: I'll throw out a name. Philip Rivers has four order

484
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Speaker 3: in twenty one touchdowns it seems.

485
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy to say with four hundred touchdown

486
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Speaker 2: passes he's sixth all time, probably not getting in maybe

487
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Speaker 2: like a Veteran's committee or something. Down the never appeared in.

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Speaker 3: A super Bowl. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, in his playoff record was pretty medium. That's creezy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, This Ben Roethlisberger, He's obviously going in, right, four

491
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen. Matt Ryan is ninth all time with

492
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Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty one touchdowns. He has an MVP

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Speaker 3: and a Super Bowl lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I would think

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Speaker 2: with the MVP that that might be enough. You know,

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Speaker 2: like Cam Newton, he's not up there on the passing

497
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Speaker 2: touchdown list. But when an MVP went to a Super

498
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Speaker 2: Bowl as well and lost in dramatic fashion, when oh

499
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Speaker 2: it wasn't dramatic, it was over quickly, less than dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Yess poem.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe that Philip River and Matt Ryan shouldn't

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Speaker 3: get in the Hall of Fame but also think that

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Speaker 3: they will?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: All right, here's the next one. This is a tough year, okay.

506
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's twelve fall ten time with three hundred and

507
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Speaker 3: fifty touchdown passes and counting. He's ahead of guys like

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Speaker 3: John Elway, Johnny Uniteds, Warn Moon, Joe Montana, Dan FOUPs, cheepers, creepers,

509
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Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty counting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the game change, the game changed. Okay, you can't.

511
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Speaker 2: You can't look at numbers from the seventies and sixties.

512
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Speaker 2: They just they didn't throw the ball fifty times.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, let's say he doesn't add any more significant work.

514
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Speaker 3: He just starts another year or two in the NFL.

515
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Speaker 3: Oh god, it's a random Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's playing himself out of soup the Hall of

517
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Speaker 2: Fame contention. And you go back to that Super Bowl

518
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Speaker 2: and if he wins that, then you know there's because

519
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: he has a better career than Eli, and they would

520
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Speaker 2: go in with two Super Bowl wins. But Rogers is

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Speaker 2: going to go rather have who would you rather? Yeah,

522
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Speaker 2: but his his statistics are like mind boggling touchdown interception ratio?

523
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Speaker 2: Who would you rather have in a big game? Eli

524
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Speaker 2: Manning or Russell Wilson in a Super Bowl? Who do

525
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: you want? Paul Russell Todd?

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Speaker 12: What do it take? Eli?

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Speaker 2: See, I'm good with Russ Marvin Russ. I'm gonna go

528
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Speaker 2: Russ too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Russ has three hundred and fifty touchdown passes only one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eleven interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to say, but like Russ, he

533
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Speaker 4: did good enough to win that game. I know it

534
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Speaker 4: ended on an interception, but I don't that interception really

535
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Speaker 4: wasn't his fault. It was just an amazing play. And

536
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 4: everybody and their brother knows. Hand the ball off and

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Speaker 4: you win the game.

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Speaker 2: Still or run a run pass option. Yeah, then then

539
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Speaker 2: you decide if you're gonna throw it, you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to throw it away, and maybe you were able

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Speaker 2: to run it in, give the ball to marsha On

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Speaker 2: and you win the game. Stand Yeah, yeah, Poe.

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Speaker 3: So we probably think that Rivers Matt, Ryan and Russell

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Speaker 3: will go in. Should is a different topic. The Kirk

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Speaker 3: Cousins with two hundred and eighty eight touchdowns. He'll be

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Speaker 3: in the threes someday. Carson Palmer has two hundred and

547
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Speaker 3: ninety four career touchdown passes fifteenth all the time. He's

548
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Speaker 3: not going anything.

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Speaker 2: No, but these numbers are gonna be hollow because in

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Speaker 2: the next ten years, the number of quarterbacks you know

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, what's he gonna end up with? I mean,

552
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Speaker 2: just run down the list of what guys are gonna

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Speaker 2: end up, you know with their touchdown pass total. You know,

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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna get to used to be three hundred. I

555
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: think three to ten was fran Tarkington's record, and it

556
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: was there for a long long time. They just blew

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: right by that, and I think it if you don't

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Speaker 2: get to three hundred, we're gonna look at you and go, man,

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00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: you pedestrian. Or but get a couple more phone calls

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Speaker 2: in here, Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind?

561
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Speaker 11: HIIDP, thanks for taking my call. You can go back

562
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Speaker 11: in time and accomplish one of the two things, dropping

563
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Speaker 11: forty or the sports Emmy.

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Speaker 13: I'll hang up and listen, all right.

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Speaker 2: I take the sports semi because that's a team effort.

566
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Speaker 2: If I'm putting up forty, that's just me. I mean,

567
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: somebody might have to rebound or set a pick, but

568
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: no sports emmy. No, these guys need it. They desperately

569
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: want that sports Emmy, and I if it's the last

570
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: thing I do, I'm going to get them that sports semi.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, Todd, Thank you, thank you. Didn't mean to

572
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: wake you up. Adam in Chicago, Hi, Adam, what's on

573
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 13: Thanks for telling me back fellows. Happy Wednesday. I've got

576
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Speaker 13: a loss on the Hall of Very Good and I'm

577
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 13: moving into Stephen Jackson's Brothers Hall of Fame. I'm six

578
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Speaker 13: foot three, white in al Dente, but I'd like to

579
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 13: announce my eligibility for the Brothers Hall of Fame because

580
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 13: I just want to see you at that table. And

581
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Speaker 13: quick little trivia for you, Stanley Cup. Time going on here?

582
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 13: What two brothers have the most points in the NHL combined?

583
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Speaker 2: Gretzky brothers, Meek Adic, Well, it's soimilar to what brothers

584
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: have the most combined home runs in Major League Baseball?

585
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: And it's the Aaron bros So Justin in Austin, Hi, Justin?

586
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Hey Danny? How you doing? Thanks for having me so listen.

588
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Speaker 14: I grew up in New York for thirty years. I

589
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Speaker 14: have to defend my boy Boomer. There's a big difference

590
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 14: in New York crowds and LA crowds. All right. First off,

591
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 14: the fans and mostly blue collar and grew up with

592
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 14: the team in New York, winning and losing, so the

593
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 14: passion and pressure is really know the game. New York

594
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 14: celebs are almost all from NYC. They all grew up

595
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 14: there as well, watching the team, so that's extra pressure

596
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 14: when you play in front of people that know the game.

597
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 14: LA celebs do not know basketball for the most part.

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Speaker 14: None of them are from LA, and all their best fans,

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Speaker 14: Denzel Jack, they're from New York anyway, so it's all

600
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Speaker 14: fake in LA.

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Speaker 2: All right, I thank you, Justin. I can't imagine now

602
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: if you're saying, because of the celebrities who are there

603
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: at the Garden that the Knicks don't play well, not

604
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: once the game starts. You're not worried about what's going

605
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: on around you, And here I am, you know, trumpeting

606
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: just how great Jalen Brunson is in the spotlight. So

607
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: you know you can't have it both ways. Yeah, you

608
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: know he's a big time and you know they he

609
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: plays big and then all, oh man, these guys say,

610
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: you know the atmosphere. Now I understand the atmosphere, but

611
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: they're all on your side when the atmosphere is you're

612
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: on the road, when you're the Lakers and you go

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00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: into the Boston Garden and Magic gets the skyhook to

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00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: win the championship. That's pressure. That's in a an environment

615
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: that is hostile, not where you know, you're playing in

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: front of your own crowd, and boy, they they want

617
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: us to win so badly. Try to do that championship

618
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: on the road. And you know that's whenever I think

619
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Speaker 2: of Magic and they say, what's one play that stands out,

620
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: it's that play he had a skyhook over Kevin McHale

621
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: and Robert Parrish and won a championship. That's pressure. Not

622
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: going into your own building and then you're surrounded by

623
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: friendly fire and I get that, you know, the expectation

624
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: level is pretty crazy there in New York. But the Garden,

625
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean I can still feel the Garden that day

626
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: and you're thinking they are going to he may have

627
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: just won the championship and then Bird got loose in

628
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: the corner, should have hit a jumper, and you know

629
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Boston ended up losing. That's pressure. That's pressure for both teams,

630
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: but more on the Lakers to try to do it

631
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: in the Boston Garden.

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00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: The mpone, I want to go back to what you

633
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: said with Quinn Buckner about Larry Bird falling out of

634
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: that top ten, and you're probably right over the course

635
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: the next one thirty years with Birds back injury. But

636
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: like you've said, we've said before, Magic and Bird are

637
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: tied together and their rank on the list doesn't matter

638
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: because it's like contributions to the game. They're top three

639
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: as a pair. You know, if you put them together,

640
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: what they did for the NBA, they're linked together and

641
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: they'll never be separated.

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00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do like that, And we have suggested

643
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Speaker 2: that that, you know, Magic and Larry, Larry and Magic,

644
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: but you know, you got guys who were doing some things,

645
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, just Joker eventually moving Imagine Joker gets another MVP.

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Speaker 2: Larry had three, but let's say he gets another one.

647
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: Does he move into the top ten? Is is Steph

648
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Curry in the top ten? Greatest shooter of all time?

649
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: Got four titles unanimous MVP? Is Kevin Durant going to

650
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: go in there? So I just I think you as

651
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: much as we like to hold on to those players,

652
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: there's a couple of players who just aren't going to

653
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: to stay in the top ten. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauline, Larry Bird had a nine year run his

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Speaker 3: first nine years where he finished first, second, or third

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Speaker 3: for MVP.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can pick out a nine. I can pick

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Speaker 2: out Larry's best run and Lebron's best run, and I'll

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Speaker 2: take Larry. Lebron's a better player, you know, for a

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Speaker 2: variety of reasons. You know, if I look at longevity

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Speaker 2: and you know everything he did in the game. But

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Speaker 2: if you say, here's a window, and if I give you,

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Speaker 2: I'd say, all the players, I give you a five

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Speaker 2: year window, six year window, and you take the best

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Speaker 2: six years. Now got to be consecutive, the best six

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Speaker 2: year run. With these players in the top ten, I'd

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Speaker 2: be curious how we would rank those players. Would we

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Speaker 2: rank them much differently or would somebody fall out? Would

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Speaker 2: somebody jump in if I looked at a six year run, Yes, Marvin, Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Because a lot of times we're talking about longevity. But

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Speaker 15: how good were you at the peak of your powers?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 15: And so eighty six Larry Bird. There might not be

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Speaker 15: too many people that can touch Larry Bird in nineteen

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Speaker 15: eighty six, especially that three year MVP run of his.

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Speaker 10: So that's how I would go off of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, Michael Jordan had a six year run from

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Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty nine where he finished he won

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Speaker 3: three MVPs, finished top three every year. He was also

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Speaker 3: Top five Defensive Player of the Year for six straight years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although it's weird with All Defensive team because Larry

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Speaker 2: Bird made I think First Team All Defense a couple

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Speaker 2: of times, and Larry was not a defensive player. He

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Speaker 2: played the passing lanes. He'd get a lot of steals.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that you would go, boy that

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Speaker 2: Larry is a lockdown defender because he wasn't, and he

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Speaker 2: had rim protectors there behind him with McHale and Parrish

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Speaker 2: and Bill Walton. But all right, let me take a

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Speaker 2: break here, last call for phone calls, what we learn,

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Speaker 2: what's in store tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition

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Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern

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Speaker 1: six eight em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 2: We touched on the Colorado Rockies starting the show. They've

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Speaker 2: been outscored by one hundred and seventy four runs. They're

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Speaker 2: nine to forty six. That would put them on a

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Speaker 2: pace to go twenty seven in one thirty five. They

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Speaker 2: lost in eleven innings last night. So they dropped all

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Speaker 2: eighteen series they've played in. That is this season. They've

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Speaker 2: dropped twenty one consecutive series dating back to last season.

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Speaker 2: Stand Pandora, thank you. I hear that voice sometimes in

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Speaker 2: my head. I wish I didn't Oh, I didn't say

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Speaker 2: that I had a choice in this. You know when

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Speaker 2: you hear voices, I hear voices. I hear Pandora. Stat

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Speaker 2: of the day. Alrighty, so he got hockey tonight. Panthers Hurricanes,

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Speaker 2: Timberwolves at the thunder Underarth. How about this day in

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Speaker 2: sports history, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Just a couple. Nineteen fifty one, Willie Mays hit his

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Speaker 3: first home run. It was his first time at bat

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Speaker 3: in the Major League.

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Speaker 10: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen fifty six, Day Long became the first to hit

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Speaker 3: home runs in eight consecutive baseball games. Ooh tough one.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen fifty seven, the National League allowed the Brooklyn Dodgers

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Speaker 3: to move to Los Angeles, New York Giants to move

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Speaker 3: to San Francisco. Simultaneously, dang last last me, Fritzy. That

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Speaker 3: would have been a big show the next day for

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Speaker 3: US reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Giants moving to San Francisco didn't receive

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Speaker 2: anywhere near the fanfare of the Dodgers out of Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Losing two franchises in the day, that's a tough day

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Speaker 3: to Toughy A nineteen sixty two Wide World of Sports

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Speaker 3: with Chris Shankle premiere, That's awesome and another Toughy two

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Speaker 3: thousand and six. Barry Bonds of the Giants hit home

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Speaker 3: run seven fifteen. You know what that meant?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Barry Bonds, nineteen ninety eight, Buck Showwalter intentionally

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Speaker 2: walks Barry Bonds with the bases loaded. So there's two outs,

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Speaker 2: bases loaded, ninth inning and his team is up eight

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Speaker 2: to six. Buck Showwalter of the Diamondbacks walks Barry Bonds,

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Speaker 2: Brent Maine comes to the plate and then lines out

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Speaker 2: to end the game. I mean, here's the thing. They

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Speaker 2: won the game, so I guess you could say Buck

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Speaker 2: had the right call. Also, this one, I think I

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Speaker 2: have his name right, Rob mccoveac. He played with the Pirates.

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Speaker 2: His wife is in the hospital and she's getting ready

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Speaker 2: to give Burt to their first child. He hits a

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Speaker 2: walk off grand Slam in the first game of a doubleheader,

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Speaker 2: then hits a game tying two run homer in the

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Speaker 2: night cap with the Pirates to go, went on to win.

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Speaker 2: So on the birth of it, so that that child

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Speaker 2: is twenty one years of age. Right now, all right,

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Speaker 2: let me see update the final results of the poll

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Speaker 2: question if you can see no counter. Yep, we got

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Speaker 2: two of them working right now. We have up there

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Speaker 2: how many MVPs will Altani finish his career with? Right now,

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Speaker 2: four has about forty percent of that vote.

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Speaker 4: Followed by five, then six, then seven. We also have

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Speaker 4: which team down three to one is most done? Sorry Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: but the Timberwolves are most done.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's not about that. I can see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: eight and a half point underdogs, and okay, see I

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Speaker 2: wonder since Minnesota could have won that game they only

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Speaker 2: lost by two points. Can you have the same philosophy

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Speaker 2: if you're okay c with ant Man, and that is,

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Speaker 2: let everybody else try to beat you, or do you

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden go you know what, Maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: we decide that we'll take our chances with ant Man

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Speaker 2: going off. I mean, lou Georg's going to be gardening,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna get a whole lot of help when

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards gets by.

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Speaker 10: Yes, marm, I don't overthink it. It's been working. Keep

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Speaker 10: it up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Martina.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, oh, you asked the question.

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Speaker 2: I answered, Oh, I know, okay, it was a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know what that means, Todd, right.

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Speaker 12: Rhetorical questions, but you already know the answer to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you're asking anyway, but you'd kind of know the

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Speaker 12: answer by yourself without getting help from others.

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Speaker 3: So since you asked Todd what a rhetorical question is,

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Speaker 3: he should have not answered.

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Speaker 2: It because it's rhetorical.

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Speaker 12: There was no need for me to even respond there.

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Speaker 12: I see what you did. Very nice.

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Speaker 2: How is your day today? I think I had a

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Speaker 2: good day. Okay, I don't know what happened before.

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Speaker 12: You accuse me of falling asleep? He said, sorry about that.

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Speaker 12: Help you help win the sports on me? And I

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Speaker 12: didn't have a I didn't have anything clever to say.

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Speaker 12: We you said, I hope we all get those sports

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Speaker 12: on me?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you just uh, I don't know you

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Speaker 2: just didn't have your usual interngy. That's all.

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Speaker 3: It's there.

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Speaker 10: It's latent, okay, what is late got of hidden?

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Speaker 12: It comes out when you at least expected. It's not fun.

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Speaker 12: If you're expecting it, you're expect me to tell you

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Speaker 12: what we learned today?

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Speaker 2: What did you learn today?

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Speaker 12: To Stephen Jackson never got rattled by the pressure of

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Speaker 12: big crabs and celebs and attendance. In fact, he makes

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Speaker 12: love to pressure.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, My thanks to Quinn Buckner and

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Speaker 2: Stephen Jackson. We'll do our best to be better tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day.