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Speaker 1: We are back. Happy? Here was that Marboni one to three? Happy?

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Speaker 1: We're just following each other. I don't know, like life.

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Speaker 1: record deal. How are you doing? Ship? Welcome to Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Um weird Arie draggy with your words. I'm good, it

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Speaker 1: It feels like it was years and not a year

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Speaker 1: just my year was also kind of a whirlwind anyway,

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Speaker 1: much time they seem to have. Well, right, because also

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Speaker 1: you're not hung over hung over, you're not. Your social

427
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: calendar is very different. Yeah, you know, you're you're putting

428
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: focus on so many other things. Well, I told you

429
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: this earlier, but I used to say when people are like,

430
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: what do you do for fun? And I was like, uh,

431
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: drink with my friends. Like I don't know. It's like

432
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't really know that I've thought about what hobbies

433
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: do I want to have or it's always just I

434
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: want to see my friends when I actually have the

435
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: time to do anything but work or anything else, you know,

436
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: and um, there it just revolves around drinking. And the

437
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: thing is though that I've for me personally, it's helped

438
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: me to still stay social because I think if I

439
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: had stopped drinking and stopped doing so much social events,

440
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: I would feel really depressed. Well do you think that? Okay,

441
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: I was just imagining us at a show and like

442
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: we're few tequilas in and you're like whoa or like

443
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: letting loose? Yeah, do you think like some the the

444
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: what is really going on is that because we're not

445
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: in tune enough with our selves and loving ourselves enough

446
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: for who we are, that we need that alcohol to

447
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: sort of give us the permission to be ourselves. I

448
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: think it's all yeah, what's They always call it the

449
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: social lubricant, right, And I will say, maybe that's why

450
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: in the past I've had so much more anxiety about, oh,

451
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: I can't not drink like you know, like and where

452
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: now I'm telling you I've gone to shows. I've gone

453
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: to multiple shows since I've stopped drinking, or I've gone

454
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: in to parties even and it's just like I was

455
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: ordering mocktails. I told you this, but I now quit

456
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: that because I realized it's all sugar. But it just

457
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: makes me feel terrible. But I just will drink a casoda,

458
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: water or something if I feel like I need something.

459
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: But that's what I was saying. It's literally like the

460
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: act of moving a glass to my mouth or chewing

461
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: eyes like you said, would help too. But it's like,

462
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: really not that big of a deal I do. I

463
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: have bought now, um, some non alcoholic wine or like

464
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: I found a non alcoholic tequila that I like, So

465
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: when I go to a party sometimes I bring that.

466
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: The other thing I've realized is it makes other people

467
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: more uncomfortable than it actually makes you. And so like me,

468
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: even having a glass of wine in my hand, they

469
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: won't know that it's alcohol or not alcohol. And so

470
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: it's just like that's what I did in my sober month.

471
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: It would always be just soda water in a lime.

472
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: And so I was mentioning this before we started recording.

473
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: Our friend Allison, who doesn't drink and never have and

474
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: not because she has a problem. It's just she was

475
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: never interested. And the girl parties harder than anybody, and

476
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: she's always one of the last ones to leave the

477
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: party and she's always the life of the party. Um.

478
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: She said, it's it's the same thing, Like it's more

479
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: her her being and I don't even know sobers right,

480
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: her not drinking is more uncomfortable for other people than

481
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: it is for her. Um. And you know when she

482
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: meets somebody new and they're like, can I get your

483
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: drinks just now? I don't I don't drink. They're like, well,

484
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: what what do you do? They like expect her to

485
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: have another advice, like do do cocaine? Like what's your vice? Yeah,

486
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: and she hurt the way that she likes to disarm

487
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: the situation, and she says, I'm a Christian just to

488
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: make people feel bad. Oh she is a Christian, right,

489
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: She like she pulls that joke out just to be like, like,

490
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's like she tries to make herself sound

491
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: even more square and judge. You know, it is funny

492
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: to watch people squirm. Yeah, I don't know, it's interesting.

493
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: But it's been in the news a lot recently because

494
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: I think Megan Fox has started talking openly about how

495
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: she quit drinking in two thousand nine after going to

496
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: an award show. I think it was the Golden Globes.

497
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: You know how they serve champagne. People always get so

498
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: ship faced, and she didn't interview after and just set

499
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that I think she was like

500
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of berated for after, and she was like that

501
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: was when I realized, like I just can't drink alcohol

502
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: because I become somebody or I don't have a filter,

503
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: you know, but becomes somebody, I'm not really, so that

504
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: was for her. Jennifer Garner really has talked a lot

505
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: about the COVID drinking thing, and she was like, I

506
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: just before I knew it, it it was like you reward

507
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: yourself after a day with your kids with a glass

508
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: of wine and then before you know, it's two and

509
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: then it's three, and it's just like, that's exactly what

510
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: happened to me. It was just like a habit thing

511
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: that developed that it just becomes this crutch that you're like, oh, yeah,

512
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: let's do this, and then you're drunk and taking medicine

513
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: before you charcoal pills, before you go to beds. You

514
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: don't feel like the next day so you can get

515
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: up and do it all over again. And I just

516
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 1: just so exhausted of it. It was like maybe a

517
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: part of why all of my world started started to

518
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: feel like it was compounding. You know, it's just like

519
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: because you can't operate as your best self, right right? Yeah?

520
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny to think like the irony of like, oh,

521
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to have this to unwind rather than just

522
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: like taking some deep breaths and unwinding or meditating. How

523
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: about that? Yes, Like those are the things that I'm saying,

524
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: is we really as a society have done a disservice

525
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: to ourselves. And like I think this is just everyone

526
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: just doing the best that they can and you're passing

527
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: on what you've been taught. But maybe this is what's

528
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: happening right now in our universe is like, Okay, we're

529
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: gonna get hit with a bunch of ship and you

530
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: can't just drink your way through this one because it's

531
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: going to keep going. And like if you drink your

532
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: way through, then you're gonna need to go to a

533
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: meeting to deal with that um or you're gonna get sick.

534
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 1: Like I was telling you about, there are so many

535
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: really bad effects on our bodies that we just don't

536
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: even everyone's like aware of cirrhosis of the liver, but

537
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: like there's a huge impact of alcohol on our brains.

538
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: There's a huge impact of alcohol on the rise of cancer,

539
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: especially in women, the breast cancer numbers. Like they're saying,

540
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the contribution of alcohol is huge for that um brain

541
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: chemistry in general, just the effects of like what I

542
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: was talking about emotionally, like how many times have you

543
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: been in bed on a Sunday and you're like Jesus,

544
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: it's just like the most lonesome day ever and you

545
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: have that emotional hangover, yeah, or it's you're you're thinking about,

546
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: like what did I do last night? Yes, this and

547
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: it is scary. Yeah. So I think one of the

548
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: things I read about so alcohol. Let's see, alcohol is

549
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: associated with other disease injuries and harms, liver disease, impact

550
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: on the brain, like I just said, impact on the heart.

551
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Women who drink excessively are at an increased risk for

552
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: damage to the heart muscles at lower levels of consumption

553
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: and over a few fewer years of drinking the men.

554
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: So they're saying it's harder on women's bodies because we

555
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: don't process it as easily, like it doesn't break down

556
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: on our bodies as easily as men. And so you know,

557
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: I would try to go toe to toe a lot

558
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: of times that the guys around me, and I'm like,

559
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I did. I mean that's a part of being a

560
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: from Louisiana. I guess you just like you can drink,

561
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: but like, um, it's not good for my body. And

562
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm light, like I'm a little person. So

563
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: it's just interesting that we could drink the way that

564
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: we did, but it doesn't mean it's doing good for

565
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: my insides. Yeah, it's it's it's funny. I'm really conflicted

566
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: because I don't think that I'm anywhere near a point

567
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: of doing what you're doing, and I'm fully aware of

568
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the implications of not doing it, you know. So it's like,

569
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's kind of a weird conversation

570
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: because I'm you know, I of course support you and

571
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: support anyone who wants to take this journey, and like ship,

572
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: I should be paying a little bit more attention to

573
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: my health, you know. Um, but I you know, it's

574
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: not to like poke holes in it. It's just, um, what, like,

575
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: is there a world that exists without alcohol? Not? Like

576
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't think so yeah, Like, so what

577
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: what is that happy? What's the happy balance? That's the

578
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: exact question, right, That's why it's called sober curious. It's like,

579
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know that you need to even think

580
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I mean? But I think

581
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: you could ask yourself the question and contemplate like, oh,

582
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: how am I drinking? Why am I drinking? Like it's

583
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: just asking yourself the questions to be aware enough of

584
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: the wise or if it is affecting your life in

585
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: a negative way, like to even ask yourself the questions.

586
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to sit on

587
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: some high horse over here and be like, oh, I

588
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: stop drinking, so you should or everybody should. Like I

589
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: don't think everyone needs to stop drinking. And I don't

590
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna not drink forever. It's not really,

591
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: that's not really the point. It's like, in six months,

592
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I could be like, yeah, I'm gonna have a glass

593
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: of wine, but I want to be aware of like

594
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: the wise, like I said, and I just want to

595
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: be aware of what I'm drinking. Yeah, it's so funny.

596
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm also like thinking how I think legally if they

597
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: have to do this. But like in ads for drink products,

598
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: they always say drink responsibly, right as they show people

599
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: like partying and whatever. Right, I don't think they show

600
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: them driving, but they might show them as ps um.

601
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe it should say like drink consciously. Oh

602
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: that's a good that Actually, why is the advertising not

603
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: switching to but that they lose money though, I mean

604
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: it's a business, it's a massive business. You look at

605
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: someone like, I mean, it's my favorite brand, like Cosamikos,

606
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: and it's a fairly young brand. It's a billion dollar brand.

607
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money in this space, I mean alcohol.

608
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: Like about it. It's like there was a time in

609
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: America where you weren't legally allowed to drink. Yeah, everyone

610
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: was still doing it. Oh yeah, I mean in Louisiana

611
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: the year before I went to college. This was such

612
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: a sweet kill about Louisiana. But literally the drinking edge

613
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: was eighteen and so let's switch to one the year

614
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: that I went to college, which was bullshit. But but yeah,

615
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's a lot has changed a thing

616
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: with that. But um, with as far as the point

617
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: of that you're making about the money, I was telling

618
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: you earlier that Bella Hadid is a part of this

619
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: new company called Ken what is it, Kenuphorics. So they

620
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: are creating these new drinks like this one is it's

621
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: really good for brain health and apparently there's a relaxing

622
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: one and one that's a little more stimulating probably I

623
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: would imagine like a healthy red bull. But so you

624
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: if you go to parties, you have this option of

625
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: like having the stimulation stimulation that you might be getting

626
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: from drinking or not feeling so not a part of

627
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: because you're drinking something. But it's a healthy version. It's

628
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: not alcoholic. There's like mushroom adaptagens in it, so it's

629
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: all good for your body versus like I mean honestly,

630
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: alcohols like poison, right, So it's like breaking down things

631
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: in your body, and um, these could be the next

632
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: like billion dollar companies. I guess that's my point if

633
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: we start thinking about this. Apparently like a lot of

634
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the younger generations and millennials are actually thinking in this

635
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: mindset of suber curious. I mean, it's like, I'm it's

636
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: making me like sort of look back at my life

637
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: it with like a weird reflection because I just I

638
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: can't imagine it not drinking. Oh yeah, I can't imagine

639
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: looking back at my life. And I'm like, god, yeah,

640
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's just like people go

641
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: through seasons too, and it's just like it's just where

642
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: people are and like I don't know, it's just where

643
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: I am right now, and I don't even know. Is

644
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: this the lighter side of things? It suppos like so happy? Well,

645
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think It's important to mention this too,

646
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: is that there are actual people that have, um, neurological

647
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: reasons why they shouldn't drink because they're the way that

648
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: they process the enjoyment of alcohol leads to alcoholism. And

649
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: it's something that's so beyond just binge drinking and so um,

650
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, cuber curious could be like a little bit

651
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: offensive certain people and we're not meaning it that, you know. Yeah,

652
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that there are you know, obviously people that

653
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: have neurological reasons why um, you know, substance abuse is

654
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: a very real thing for them. Um, it's a disorder.

655
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: And so I mean a lot of these products like

656
00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: this thing. It's like it's amazing. Again they're terrible guy,

657
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: you're both brilliant women that have amazing so um whatever.

658
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Um My point was is like having having options like

659
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: this like well hopefully um for for people like that

660
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: sort of help them nip it in the bud before

661
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: it gets to what it would naturally have been in

662
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: a normal society that's pushing alcohol and everybody. That's the point, right,

663
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Like it's about asking the questions to then maybe not

664
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: to take the stigma away first of all, but then

665
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: also to normalize. You don't have to drink, Like, drinking

666
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: isn't actually what makes every situation so much fun. Sure,

667
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: it can amp things up and it can take things down.

668
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it just depends on the kind of drinking

669
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: you're doing. And I just think it's like we should

670
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: just be giving people the option of, like, drink if

671
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: you want, don't if you don't want to. It doesn't

672
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: have to be so life or death that you drink

673
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: or don't drink. Like, well, it's funny to think like

674
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: none of none of the like Cola comp and these

675
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: fun you know, like Coca Cola or Sprite or whatever

676
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: we call everything coke. That like none of the soda

677
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: companies whatever, pop pop companies. This is a big like

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, have your night out with Coca Cola and

679
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: like make it a thing or it's like cool to drink.

680
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: I feel like that the marketing has ever been that. No,

681
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: it's with a smile, right, like refreshing in the afternoon,

682
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: right yeah. I mean, but alcohol is a social lubricant.

683
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: It makes things looser, it makes things easier as like

684
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: in a dating scenario. I'm thinking about that already. I'm like,

685
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I going to not drink, and

686
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: when I finally get ready to start dating again, that

687
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: is going to be a word. Well you're I mean,

688
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: maybe you'll find out sooner sooner if someone's not for

689
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: more compatible, maybe I'll date another person who doesn't drink.

690
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that alcohol sort of contributes to,

691
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: like you thinking that a date is going so much

692
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: better than it actually, I'm sure you know what I mean. Well,

693
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I will say this. I think that removing alcohol from

694
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: the equation for me, like even when we go to party,

695
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: you were talking about how people like it helps you

696
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: become your own self. What I'm realizing is in my

697
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: life in general, I'm really working hard to become the

698
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: most authentic version of myself that I can for right now.

699
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, It's like every day is like learning something

700
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: new about myself. And I mean it's a journey that

701
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: we're on for the rest of our lives. But I

702
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: think with that exploration has come some confidence in like

703
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: here's who I am, and like, yeah, like sometimes I'm

704
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: really hyper and like I'm real chatty and whatever, and

705
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: then sometimes I'm really shy and quiet and like all

706
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: of those things are okay, and I don't need to

707
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: like be forcing myself to pound tequila so that I

708
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: can be what I need to be in that scenario consistently,

709
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to be probably be quiet and loud

710
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: on tequila too. I've definitely seen I've definitely seen it, Like, yeah,

711
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: it can be all the things, but I think that

712
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: also what else. It's made me realize, it's like if

713
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: I am not enjoying people's company, because I think a

714
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of times, I know, I drink when I'm like

715
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: feeling forced in conversations or I'm like, oh, I'm gonna

716
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: get another drink when it's like an uncomfortable situation. And

717
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I have another friend who we were talking about this

718
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and he said, I was at this party, was after

719
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: the c M A S And literally, um, I realized

720
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I was having some the conversation was really stupid, and

721
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: he basically like looked at his wife and he was like, yeah,

722
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: it's time for us to go, Like because it's like

723
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: you start to realize I don't need to force myself

724
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: to have these conversations. And if I'm feeling like I

725
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: need another drink to be around this person, they're probably

726
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: not a person I need in my life. Like, that's

727
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: the kind of things that I'm starting to think about,

728
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: is if I can't be comfortable in certain scenarios without alcohol,

729
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't need to be in that scenario. It's a

730
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: great point. And I sit with you guys as you're drinking,

731
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: feel totally fine. I never even think about it. That's

732
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the thing. Like we went to Corner Pub not that

733
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: long ago, and you guys all had drinks and wings

734
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: and whatever, and I just like sat and chatted because

735
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: y'all are my best friends, and like, I feel totally

736
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: comfortable and confident in myself. Yeah. I mean I mentioned

737
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: Alison before. She's one of my favorite people to be around, totally,

738
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, and it never occurs to me that she's

739
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: not drinking. Yeah ever, Yeah, I mean, I see how

740
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: hard it's. You're kind of like, okay, great here, Yeah

741
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: you need to drink. That's it. I'm not super curious anymore.

742
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: Podcast with schipper too hard. Maybe I should just drink.

743
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: Maybe there's you know, an open bottle of wine in there.

744
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Annie was here. How Oh anyway, Ruby Warrington was the

745
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: one who coined the term sober curious, and she said,

746
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I realized that a lot of people felt the same

747
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: way as me. They knew they like they knew alcohol

748
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: could be problematic for them, but they didn't see themselves alcoholics.

749
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: They were afraid to either talk about it and didn't

750
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: have an outlet or an open discussion for the problems

751
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: even normal drinkers experience. She published the book called Super Curious,

752
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: encouraging people to change their relationship with alcohol and stop

753
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: drinking on autopilots. That's the perfect word to talk about

754
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: what I was saying. There's also a big book. And

755
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: they mentioned I mentioned Sex in the City earlier, but uh,

756
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: Charlotte sent Miranda this book called Quit Like a Woman

757
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: And you found a really interesting article. Just in researching,

758
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I was like, is sobriety? Hip was what? Yeah? Yeah,

759
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I loved this And I landed on a website called

760
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: hip sobriety com And it was actually by the It's

761
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: it's a blog that was started by the author of

762
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Quit Like a Girl, Quit Like a Woman, um, and

763
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: it basically, uh, it starts with a manifesto of you

764
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: know why and how to quit, and then in the

765
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: about section, it's her story when she sort of hit

766
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: her own rock bottom and realized that she had a

767
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: problem with drinking, a drinking, drugging. She was smoking a

768
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: lot of weed and cigarettes, and she was also blimic

769
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: UM and she went to a doctor about it. She

770
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: knew that she needed help her life with spiraling out

771
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: of control, and the options that her doctor gave her

772
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: just did not work for her. Because she didn't want

773
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: to go away for a month. She couldn't afford it. Yeah,

774
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: and so she decided that she was going to create

775
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: create her own way to sobriety and UM. She created

776
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: a program for herself. And this is in two thousand

777
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: twelve that had happened, and she said her life she

778
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: she is now living the life that she dreamed of. UM.

779
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: And she has a website now called tempest. I think

780
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: UM and it's like an online resource that can help

781
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: you gets sober if you want and sort of UM.

782
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: And I don't I haven't dug that deep into it,

783
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's like the program is design at

784
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: least I'm not researching right now. But what the point

785
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: that I was going to make was, I don't think

786
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: it's just I think this program you can use for

787
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: other things like it. I think the majority of it

788
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: is about sobriety from drinking. But if it is a

789
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: food addiction or I think there's they can work with

790
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: with you on that too, And I think, like again,

791
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: it's like what we said, because I think a lot

792
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: of addiction. It scares me a little bit to kind

793
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: of talk about this and like you actually read that

794
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: to me earlier, and my I do toilve step programs.

795
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm not an a A, but I do other ones,

796
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: and it makes me a little nervous um to put

797
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: that around, like when someone says something like, you know,

798
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: a A wasn't for me, but so I created my

799
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: own program that would literally if you go to a

800
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: A I promise you they would be like, Okay, well

801
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: you're not ready to get sober yet, because like if

802
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: you have a true problem with something like that and

803
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: it is an addiction, you can't just put it down.

804
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: Like it is virtually impossible to just like be like,

805
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna quit drinking. And this

806
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: is why I said to you before we started. I

807
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: was like, I know I'm not an alcoholic because like

808
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: it has not been hard for me, but it has

809
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: served my life. I will be honest that it has

810
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: served my life. To not have it in it for

811
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: right now and you don't have a substance abuse disorder,

812
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Well I don't. I don't. That's not my drug of choice.

813
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Let's say so, Like yeah, so I don't. It's just

814
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: been like Okay, I'm gonna cut that out because I'm

815
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: working on myself in these other capacities that I do

816
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: want to lay down my codependency and the other things

817
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: that alcohol actually really exacerbate sometimes. And I have to

818
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: be honest with myself about that, you know, like was

819
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: it serving me in any forms of my life or

820
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: like right now is it going to be? And like

821
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't really see an upside, so like can I

822
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: just eliminate the factor? But if it was my drug

823
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: of choice, I don't think it would be the thing

824
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: for me to just be like, you know what, I'm

825
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: not going to clear drinking, Like that's like a joke. Well,

826
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I'll read a little bit of what she says, because

827
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I do think that it needs some context because she

828
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: and I'm putting words in her mouth. But it wasn't

829
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: just about it was figuring out she figured out the

830
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: why of why she needed to stop all about under

831
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying, twelve step programs are so

832
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: good for which is why I have the most respect

833
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: for anyone. Figured She was depressed. She her relationships were

834
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: all bad, the drinking was getting sober was not a

835
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: consequence of that. She freed herself of the drinking so

836
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: that she could all the other things. Exactly what I'm saying,

837
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: right and um, And she says in in her about

838
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: me in the story, she said, sobriety isn't just about

839
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: quitting alcohol and drugs. It's about getting after your best

840
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: life and having everything that you've ever dreamed of. It's

841
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: about living the way that other people won't live, so

842
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: that you can live the way that most people can't live.

843
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: That I well, I told you this about twelve set

844
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: programs in general. They've taught me how to tell the

845
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: truth on stuff and how to be vulnerable and be real,

846
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: like any sort of work that you're doing. And I

847
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: think what she's she's referencing that too. It's like she's

848
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: digging deeper and learning how to live a life that

849
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't even even know to address

850
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: or get the chance to live um or ask themselves

851
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: the hard questions to to walk through that the pain

852
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: to get to the other side. You know, it's like

853
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: there are I think it's like a really amazing mentality

854
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: to look at all the positives and like keep the

855
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: focus on that versus like, oh no, I've got to

856
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: stop drinking, or oh shoot, like this is depressing that

857
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I should stop drinking. Like it doesn't have to be.

858
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: It actually can be the most empowering, beautiful thing. Like

859
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: especially like I'm a person who loves to eat healthy, right,

860
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: and then I'm sitting here like poisoning myself with tequila

861
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: and wine. It's like it's very contradictory at the rest

862
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: of my life. And so when you start to think

863
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: of it as a healthy thing that you're doing for

864
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: yourself or a way that you're taking care of your

865
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: mental healthy, then it's very empowering. And it's just like

866
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: it's not that big of a fucking deal, right She

867
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: She does note that it's not easy. Yeah, like this

868
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: is not she says, Um, it's not all rosy. Life

869
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: is still complicated, funked up and hard. It's just all

870
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: that now without the all that now, without the sense

871
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: of just um waiting to die and pointlessness and slog

872
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: of hangovers. Don't let every don't let anyone ever tell

873
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: you that it's just a fairy tale. Nothing is a

874
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: fairy tale. That's absolutely true. True. Yeah, it's like, but

875
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: I think if you're living the best version of your self,

876
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: it's it's your fairy tale. You know. Well, yeah, because

877
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: I think we all we all have a common idea

878
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: of what a fairy tale, because that is the conditioning

879
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: that we've grown up with. Well we yeah, we were

880
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: talking about that earlier. It's just like, your life doesn't

881
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: have to look like everyone else's for it to be

882
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: an amazing life. I think something she just said and

883
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: I already forgot it. Shoot, there was a lot. Oh,

884
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it easy. I will say, when you

885
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: remove the alcohol, you realize all the feelings you're medic

886
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean you're pushing down. So a lot of times

887
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: it gets worse before it gets better. So if you

888
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: do find yourself and you're like, do you feel like

889
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm probably medicating or like I'm medicating this breakup, how

890
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: about I say it like that, Like that's an example

891
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do. Or like you're

892
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: miserable in your relationship, or like you're stressed out at

893
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: work and so you have a drink and it's like,

894
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: what are you avoiding feeling with the alcohol? And so

895
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: that is a lot of stuff that initially comes up

896
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: when you stop drinking and you don't have your medicators,

897
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: and it's super uncomfortable. Like I have had days like that,

898
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, like I've been going through some stuff, and

899
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: I've talked openly on here about going through a breakup resently,

900
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: and it's not like they're not days around. I'm like, God,

901
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: I wish I could come out like I don't want

902
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: to feel this. It feels terrible, But instead I just

903
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: cry my way through it and try to get to

904
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the other side. And typically I actually feel better because

905
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm releasing the real thing happening. Yeah, because you're doing

906
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: the work. Yeah, I guess that you're doing the work.

907
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, I can't imagine, like I would

908
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people at bars who are there

909
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: like trying to meet somebody or hook up or whatever.

910
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: It is, like the drinking makes him feel sexy here.

911
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, can you imagine like trying to do

912
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: that sober? I mean, it's like terrifying to me. Well,

913
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: I feel like the truth is I don't feel sexy.

914
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: So it's like, but that's the point. Those are the

915
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: things to address, not to drink more to feel sexier,

916
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: because it's also a false but but it's a catch

917
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: twenty two because if drinking does make you feel sexy,

918
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: then maybe that's what is that a real feeling of sexy.

919
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I think it's like, look

920
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: the conversation. You know, we're obviously neither of us are

921
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: experts on this topic. But I think everyone it's your

922
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: personal responsibility to address your relationship with alcohol, and if

923
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: you think you have any level of problem with it,

924
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: you probably do. Yeah, you know, And look that doesn't

925
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: mean that that's plenty of people can sit around and

926
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: be like I don't have a problem with it, and

927
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: they actually have a problem with it. But I think

928
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: if you if you have any sort of doubt about

929
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: like where your relationship with alcohol sits, But that also

930
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: takes a lot of vulnerability to admit. I'm thinking of

931
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of situations where I just know, yeah, that's

932
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: a hard one to face. Yeah, And it's like here,

933
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: this is me just trying to be a little bit

934
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: vulnerable about it too. It's like if I'm saying, like, wow,

935
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I can't can't imagine my life without alcohol. Does that

936
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: mean I have a problem with it? I don't know,

937
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: Or does that mean that I've figured out how it

938
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: fits in my life and I'm content with that? You know?

939
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: But I think the point is you're asking the question, right,

940
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: That's all cyper curiosity is. Yeah, anyway, I mean, I

941
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I hate that it. So I was like,

942
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is gonna be the letter side

943
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: of things. And we're like, stop drinking. Well, I'm not

944
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: saying stop drinking. I know, I'm saying I stopped drinking.

945
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: You stopped drinking. And I think it's just it's like

946
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: an interesting topic to think about. And those are the

947
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: things that I like to bring to this podcast. And

948
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: it is very top pop culture relevant because so many

949
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: celebrities are actually openly saying, yeah, like I've realized I

950
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: was kind of overdoing it here and um, maybe it

951
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: was time to just put that down for a minute,

952
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: life for forever whatever, you know? My man crushed Doc Shepherd,

953
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: Wait you like that? Do you ever listen to that

954
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: podcast called arm Chair Expert. I've never heard you talking

955
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: about it. There must be a episode it's the new year.

956
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But you know he's sober, but he

957
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: talks about how much he loves alcohol, you know, Like

958
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I love alcohol. Who doesn't have a good

959
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: cock to um? Now? I just have a good mock too. No,

960
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: I hate the word lock tails? So can I say

961
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: something embarrassing around the table at dinner lately when we've

962
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: been like ordering drinks or y'all order y'all drinks, and

963
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all are like, oh, can I get a

964
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: tequila soda and like slash a grape friget or whatever

965
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: you order, and like everyone else there's in their order

966
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: and they get to me and I'm like, well, I

967
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: can I do the same thing but without that alcohol?

968
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: And they're like what? And I'm like, can you just

969
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: do a fucking mocktail? Like I have to? But nobody

970
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: understands what do you first order? And so I have

971
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: to like say it club soda with lime. Well, that's

972
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna start doing because I don't want all

973
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: the sugar. Actually, last time, because that's what my drink

974
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: would be without totally the last couple of times I've

975
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: just gotten water. I just don't care anymore. I like,

976
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: have some so good. I love water. That's a shirt.

977
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Water is so good. I love water. Oh my god,

978
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you love water. Water. We have a

979
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: friend who only drinks diet coke. I have a friend

980
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: that never drinks water. Who's the friend that only drinks coke? Courtney?

981
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Shut up? Really does she not drink water? Working on it?

982
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: My friend Rachel never drinks water. It's really it's really

983
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: good for you. I'm so glad you love what I

984
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: love it. This is a side tangent. Anyway, I've just

985
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: been drinking water. But I just yeah, I think it's

986
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: more about me getting confident inside myself and not getting

987
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: a fuck also, just like, I'm like, I have so

988
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: many bigger fish to fry right now. I just do like,

989
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I want to get my life back.

990
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: In the last three years has just been not today's satan,

991
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: and then today I'm saying, not satan, we are not

992
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: going there. So yeah, anyway, that's what I'm doing. Thank

993
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: you guys for well. I also read weight. There are

994
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: some I was thinking the people you were thanking them, well,

995
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I was going to say, um there. There's also a

996
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: new trend of like sober social places. Um. Yeah, there's

997
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: a place in Los Angeles called Remedy Place. What is

998
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: on Sunset Boulevard. It's what it's all mop fails. Oh

999
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: my god. Open in two thousand nineteen, but they're good. Yeah,

1000
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe I'll try that out next time I got to

1001
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: l A. It's I think it's it's a it's an

1002
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: alternative place for people to go that like I don't

1003
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: want to go to a bar. They don't want to

1004
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: just go have dinner with a friend, right, and they

1005
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: can go to a social setting that feels like a bar,

1006
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: but there's no alcoholic temptation. Actually I was I'm glad

1007
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: you said that, because I was listening to a podcast,

1008
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: um that was talking about this place in Austin, and

1009
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's actually a bar. Yeah. How

1010
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: do you know this? Oh yeah, it's called Songs Bar

1011
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: and it's a bar seeing go socialize with other people

1012
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: who don't drink, and they serve mocktails and stuff. And

1013
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea because it's like literally

1014
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: it's just about like getting out of your house environment.

1015
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part to me about or that was

1016
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: the scariest thing about putting down alcohol was like, well,

1017
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? And I don't want

1018
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: to miss out on the fun Like you start to

1019
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: think about phomo and it's like you don't have to

1020
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: you can still go do all this stuff. Like we

1021
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: went curling last week and I had a blast. Y'all

1022
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: all had drinks and I still just curled and I

1023
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: had curling is like a if you don't just google it,

1024
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what's funny is I feel

1025
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: like the coffee industry really benefited from the fact that

1026
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: there weren't like you know, because someone's like, hey, you

1027
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: want to get a drink or a coffee like drink,

1028
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, Like I think that's really I mean, most

1029
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: coffee places aren't open late at night. But like I'm

1030
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: thinking in terms of like when I'm trying to set

1031
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: up a meeting, like let's grab a bite or a

1032
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: drink or coffee. Yeah, well, I've still have been saying, sure,

1033
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: let's go grab a drink, and then I just dropped

1034
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: a bomb when I'm there and I'm like, I'll just

1035
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: have a settle at it. Give me some ice water.

1036
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: People are like, wait, what I'm telling you? It makes

1037
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: other people more uncomfortable. It really helps your wallet too.

1038
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, but think yeah, but think about

1039
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: the last couple of dinners we went to and I

1040
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: told you my bill was like ridiculously so it's crazy anyway,

1041
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: that is what I'm doing. And I just was gonna

1042
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: say earlier, thank you guys for being on the journey,

1043
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: whether I'm drunk on a martini or sober. And I

1044
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: don't know really what the journey is gonna look like.

1045
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 1: But if you have questions for me, or you're doing

1046
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: the same thing and you're getting sober curious, email me

1047
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: at Kelly at velvets Edge. You guys know that lvit

1048
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: sedge dot com forgot to finish that um actually not drunk.

1049
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: What's my excuse going to be now? Jesus. I do

1050
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: always love sharing in like minded stories. It really helps me.

1051
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: It always helps me to hear you guys stories. So

1052
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: email me there. You can also email us your stories

1053
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: of being too drunk or maybe why you're considering being

1054
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: sober curious, or why you think this is all just

1055
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit at the Edge at velvet sedge

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Speaker 1: dot com. Maybe you're more on chips train and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: do you I need to think about this? Like those

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Speaker 1: are good questions for people to ask, don't you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like in some ways it's I feel

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Speaker 1: a little hypocritical and judged by even talking about it,

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Speaker 1: and well no, and it's like self no, no self judgment. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's totally self judgment because I honestly want to, Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I would be a sociopath

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Speaker 1: if I didn't want to be the best version of myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, there's a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: but I also like drinking, but I don't. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: why do you have to like put it down? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, anyways, gonna conflicted. I guess. Just

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Speaker 1: pray about this and get back to us. Okay, God,

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Speaker 1: meditate on it tonight. Let us know what happens for

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Speaker 1: you post about it on Instagram or something that seems

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Speaker 1: like the thing people do. I've got so much costume.

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Speaker 1: It goes for Christmas. I can't. Oh, you've got to

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Speaker 1: drink it Christmas. Yeah, I hate for us to get

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Speaker 1: away not an ad he goes, call us listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not drinking you, but like still call us? Do you

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Speaker 1: have any non alcoholic costom goes, Oh my god, that's

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Speaker 1: the next thing. Honestly, ritual is the brain of tequila.

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Speaker 1: I've been drinking. It's a little smokier than I prefer,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of great. Yeah, I'm like learning how

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Speaker 1: to create new mocktail cocktails. I don't know. Maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: open a sober bar. Oh my god, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how long this last. First like two months

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Speaker 1: in starting all these businesses and I'm like, ship, I

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Speaker 1: actually want to drink anyway. You guys, keep in touch

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Speaker 1: with us at the Edge at velvets edge dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can always hit me up on Instagram at valvets Edge.

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Speaker 1: Chip is chip door should see a chip R do

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Speaker 1: it again? Because she interrupted me so rudely. Chop P

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Speaker 1: do you are? I wish you could see how you

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Speaker 1: flip your head? Does the head flip? See a chop

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Speaker 1: P d R s H. That's Instagram, y'all. And I

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Speaker 1: just want you guys to remember that whether you're sober,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a big one. Whether you're drinking,

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Speaker 1: you're not drinking, or you're contemplating if you should be

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Speaker 1: thinking about drinking or not drinking. I want you to

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Speaker 1: go out live life on the edge. God, that was

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Speaker 1: such a body. Whether you're drinking or not drinking, you're

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Speaker 1: always living on the edge. Whether you want to live

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Speaker 1: on the edge or take off the edge. Oh my God,

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Speaker 1: Jesus t M. That is that our new thing. Whether

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Speaker 1: you're living on the edge, Wait, what taking off the edge?

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Speaker 1: Whether you're living on the edge or taking off that.

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Speaker 1: But that always means that doesn't sound like an option

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Speaker 1: of what if you just want to be chill and

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Speaker 1: it's taking off the edge, sounds like you want you're drinking.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Whether you're that silent, it's necessary,

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Speaker 1: WILL work on this and get back to you. But

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Speaker 1: you're probably actually we probably never will get back to you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I guess some people are just like God. Okay, So anyway,

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Speaker 1: if you're drinking or not drinking, I hope you're living

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Speaker 1: on the edge and always remember to a caduals by