1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Hey, you guys are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and as you know, if you've been listening, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: you know I have four daughters, so I've been to 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: plenty of children's dance recitles and you probably have also 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: been to a dancer title or a competition at some point. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: But has it ever felt a little off to you, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: because I actually have had this experience where we've seen 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: mostly it's like the middle school and the high school 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: students that are performing a dance that seems well, not 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, over sexualized, And I 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: thought like, maybe I'm imagining this, but I remember at 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the time my girls. So I was sitting there with 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: my husband and he looked at the dances that were 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: being performed on the stage and he goes, I feel uncomfortable, 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I shouldn't be here. And that 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: was a moment where dance class had always felt like 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: a place where it was like mom and daughters, and 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: then I realized in that moment it should not be 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: a place where when the girls are dancing in front 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: of the dads, it's uncomfortable. So I thought maybe I 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: was alone in this, but I recently heard about a 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: woman who is kind of fighting that fight of over 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: sexualizing our kids, and I thought it was so important 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: for you to hear. So I want to bring Mary 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Bowden in to join us today. She's not only a 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: dance educator, but she's an outspoken advocate for kids, and 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: she actually has her own foundation called Dance. It's Dance Awareness. 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: No child exploited. Mary. Thank you for joining me. 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: So I was reading about what you're doing, and I 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: honestly had this situation where I was like, it's not 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: It's like a whole different culture. And if you have 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: never been involved in dance, but you have children, or 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: you have grandchildren, you need to understand that there is 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: safe dance. Dance to me is very important just for 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: you to get a little history of me. My grandmother 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: was a dancer her whole life. When I was a kid, 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: she would tell us about how her mother took her 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: to nursing homes and had her dance. She danced all 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: the way up until her death. She taught dance when 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: she was in retirement. She taught dance to other women. 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Dance was a huge part of her life. My sister 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: was a dancer. My sister danced all through college. She 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: did competitive dance all through high school. Dance is critical, 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I think for I think it's a great place for 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: women to come together and learn, learn a skill, become 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: a team. But it's been kind of over sexualized lately. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: So tell us how you saw dance changing over time 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: and what we need to look out for as parents. 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, first, I went your listeners and viewers to know 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: that I'm a dance educator. I have a master's and 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: a BA, highly trained in chiketti, ballet and modern in 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: my Bachelor of Arts degree. So I love dance and 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: I think that's the important thing. Just like you, dance 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: and movement is good medicine. But there's been a cultural 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: shift from healthy, educational children's dance to harmful, hyper sexualized 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: children's dance in adult costumes, choreography, and music. And we've 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: gone from a culture of innocence to a battlefield of 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: hyper sexualized content. And actually this doesn't come from the 60 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: dance industry. It really comes from the Internet media and 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: porn industry who are using dance as a portal to 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: make money and to really exchange the innocence of little 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: people for trauma actually, and when I thought. 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: That that was something that I thought was so important. 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: As obviously we're talking about the Epstein files. We're talking 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: about these girls that were groomed and pulled into this life. 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: And there is a realction out there, you know for 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: people who are thinking, you know, once you got Epstein 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: and once you get everybody in these files, child predators 70 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: are gone. That's crazy. Okay, this is a com We 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: are the I think the number two nation in the 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: world for child trafficking and over sexualization. It leads to that, 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: and so these people are actually finding girls on the 74 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: Internet that are in some cases just innocently being posted 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: by the dance company or their parents. But if they're 76 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: in this situation where they're doing these moves, it is 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: it is just a predator's haven. 78 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: It is a predator's haven. And dance is unregulated and 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: so anybody can open up a dance studio. You don't 80 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: have to have a dance background, you don't have to 81 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: have an intereskip thing. 82 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Because oftentimes we say like we want to get rid 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: of regulation, and in our state, I know, everything is 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: so regulated. You can't cut hair if you don't have 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: a license, and you never think about dance because we 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: haven't had this kind of issue with dance. But wow, 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: we really should know who's teaching our daughters. 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: I am. I'm with you on the regulation. I'm not 89 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: a strong proponent that everything has to be regulated, except 90 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: with children. I do think we need to be really 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: careful who gets to work with children. And just a 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: benchmark of something we need in the dance industry is 93 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: just a background check. We don't even have that. So 94 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: we have some work to do. And I'm an educator 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: and I love dance, so I'm not going to tell 96 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: anybody not to sign their kids up for dance because 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: it's so great. All the research shows that it integrates mind, body, 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: and spirit. The brain research shows it's wonderful. Psychological research 99 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: shows it's wonderful if and only if it's healthy dance. 100 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: So I use the terms healthy dance and harmful dance, 101 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: and I will tell you all the research goes the 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: other way. When children are exposed to hyper sexualized adult 103 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: content put into adult costumes, choreography, and music, the research 104 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: shows the exact opposite effect takes place, and so we 105 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: really need to make informed choices. That's one of the 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: educational goals of dance is we produce all kinds of 107 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: research based materials that help adults who love kids, and 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: most of us do to make informed choices so that 109 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: they send their children to a dance studio that doesn't 110 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: hyper sexualize the children and friends. Viewers just understand if 111 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: your child is younger and they're not hyper sexualizing her 112 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: age group or his age group. If it's a boy, 113 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: children watch older children, right, and so pretty soon a 114 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: child begins to think that that's normal when they see 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: older children hyper sexualized. 116 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: So although I just want to stop you there because 117 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to the point of almost like for our girls, because 118 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: we would go to these competitions and then afterward they 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: send you the DBD, you know, so you get the 120 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: whole competition on DBD, and my girls would sit and rewatch, 121 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: not their own performance, everybody's performance. So they are watching 122 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: the older kids, even if they're not in the room 123 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: with them. Once they go to that competition, that's who 124 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: they look up to. They adore them. 125 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: And brain research calls up mirror neurons. We copy what 126 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: we see, So if we have healthy examples, we copy that, 127 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: and if we have harmful examples, we copy that. So 128 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: children are very, very vulnerable. So everybody needs to take 129 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: note of this and make sure that you check out 130 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: what kind of dance studio your child is involved with. 131 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: And you know, hyper sexualized content takes place here too. 132 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: By the way, that's my two granddaughters. Because all kids 133 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: are uploading TikTok videos, taking these dance videos, putting them 134 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: on all kinds of social media platforms, and as you 135 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: earlier mentioned, predators see this, they upload this content to 136 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: porn sites and sometimes want I'm not going to say 137 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: every time a child uploads the dance video they're going 138 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: to be contacted by a predator, but it's happening more 139 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: and more and more, so. 140 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: If you think it's not happening, I had a major 141 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: wake up call last night when I was putting my 142 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: daughter to bed. I have a fourteen year old and 143 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: we were talking right before bedtime, which I find is 144 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: like the time when your kids start to tell you everything. 145 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: They're hired. They want to stay up, they want to 146 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: tell you everything that happened. Right, So my fourteen year 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: old says to me, Hey, I'm worried about one of 148 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: my friends because she keeps posting thirst traps on TikTok 149 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: and I almost fell off the bed. I was like, 150 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: how well, how do you even know that word? Like 151 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: what did you just say to me? And I'm like, 152 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,119 Speaker 1: explain what you mean by that? And here on TikTok 153 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: you have a fourteen year old, which my kids don't 154 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: have TikTok, But she says, I said, how do you know? 155 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: And she said, well, she shows me and says, look 156 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: at the thirst trap I posted. And I said, wait 157 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa? Are you telling me that 158 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: she genuinely uses that word? And she said, yeah, mom, 159 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: do you know what it is? Like why do you 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: know what it is? But if you think your fourteen 161 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: year old doesn't know, you're dead wrong. 162 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes exactly. They all know all kinds of things. 163 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: And we have to begin to address this. You can't 164 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: back off if you love your child. You have to 165 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: really take note of what's going on in the culture 166 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: and looking around the culture, and you're going to see 167 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: that porn is the wallpaper of our kids' lives. So 168 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: whether they take dance in the dance studio performing this stuff, 169 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: or it's outside the dance studio as their friends share videos, 170 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: as their friends are asked to do certain dance moves. 171 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: As they go to movies, as they read magazines, as 172 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: they're on their phones, they're all getting hyper sexualized content 173 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: in adult costumes, choreography, and music, and so friends, as 174 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: caring adults, we have to stand up for this issue. 175 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And that's why I founded dance awareness dot com. By 176 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: the way, we have a free ebook download. It's only 177 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: eleven pages, it's free, and it will help a caring adult. No, 178 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: what is the new trend in children's dance? How to 179 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: choose a healthy dance studio? That is what I love. 180 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: You go to a map, you can actually put your 181 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: town into the website and. 182 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Well that's the healthy Dance directory. 183 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: So that is great, Yeah, because you've already done the 184 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: research then, so you know that. And I found one 185 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: close to us when I went in and I checked 186 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: it out, and I was like, okay, I want to 187 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: see and I found one close to us, which I'm 188 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: in a small town, so for so it made me. 189 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Actually I was like, wow, this is pretty extensive because 190 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm in a small town in Michigan and I was 191 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: able to find a dance studio that was in your directory, 192 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: which I think is amazing. And I say that because 193 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: I agree. I think music and dance and learning to 194 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: take care of your body, because a lot of what 195 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: dances is also self care. To make sure that you 196 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: are aware of your body, to make sure you were 197 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: and that can be so wonderful, many good things. 198 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know you're you're exactly right, And you 199 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: know I was mentioning the free ebook download only eleven 200 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: AG just to help people choose a dance studio, because 201 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: carrying adults are often clueless. But we also have what 202 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: you just mentioned, the Healthy Dance Directory. It's free. It's 203 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: the first ever state by state listing of healthy dance studios. 204 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: It's now gone international. We're getting nominations of healthy dance 205 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: studios from England and Australia and Canada, all over and friends. 206 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: It is free. So if you're looking for a healthy 207 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: dance studio that doesn't hyper sexualize, will provide a wonderful 208 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: experience for your child, look in this free directory. But 209 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: I also have to encourage people. We are a nonprofit, 210 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of financial resources. What financial 211 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: resources we do have are put into the website so 212 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: that we can support dance studios and carrying adults who 213 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: care about this issue. So you can nominate a healthy 214 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: dance studio yourself and it's free. So nominate a healthy 215 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: dance studio if you're listening to this podcast. Our staff 216 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: will take it from there. They have to agree to 217 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: our definition of healthy and powerful dance, and I'll show 218 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: that a minute if I can. But after that they're listed. 219 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: So there's no cost for parents and there's no cost 220 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: for dance studios. We're just trying to really shine a 221 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: light on this issue and we want kids in safe environments. 222 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 223 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. It's so important. It's something that 224 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: honestly I had been seeing. And you say this about 225 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: parents being aware, I had been seeing but hadn't really 226 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: internalized what I was seeing. For yes, right, as a 227 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: student that had been in dance as a kid, we 228 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: were kind of traditional. Went from learning ballet to actually 229 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: performing ballet, and I see too much of the ballet 230 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: part being cut out, and then it goes to like these, 231 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: like you said, these sexualized dances that I are incorporating ballet, 232 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: But there it's different. It's like the kind of dance 233 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you would see a new girls group do in on MTV. 234 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, this is not the kind of dance that 235 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: I did as a kid, and it's not like the 236 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: fundamentals of dance, and once you've got it isn't. Yeah, 237 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: so once you get away from that, as a parent, 238 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: you have to kind of go, is this best? 239 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: You know what? 240 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: My kids just this will horrify you. And I don't 241 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: even want to admit it, but my kids just started 242 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: watching Dance Moms. Yeah, it's also it's terrible. What in 243 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: the world. 244 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the instructor is abusive, in my opinion, very 245 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: trauma and you can see that in one episode if 246 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: you watch it. And I only watch it because I'm 247 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: the founder of dance, just like I watched the movie 248 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Cuts a couple of years ago. I don't watch that either. 249 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: It's an awful show and it exploits children and produces 250 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: trauma in them. Let me just share, if I can, 251 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: some simplified definitions and research so that your viewers, my 252 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: new friends, my new besties can go out and feel 253 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: more confident. You know, this is a nuanced issue and 254 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: people get overwhelmed. So I have come up with a 255 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: simplified definition for healthy and harmful dance. That seems to 256 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: be helpful. We have a more nuanced definition in our materials. 257 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: It's very good, so you can find that for free 258 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: on our website. But in healthy educational dance, children look 259 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: like children right now, that should be a given. But 260 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: look for children looking like children in age appropriate costumes, 261 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: choreography and music, usually accompanied by a great amount of smiling, happiness, joy. 262 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: But in harmful, hyper sexualized dance, children look like adults 263 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: in adult costumes, choreography and music, usually accompanied by adult 264 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: hairstyles and makeup, and they're not very happy. You're not 265 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: going to see the same level of joy. You're going 266 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: to see a lot of come hither, looks, a lot 267 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: of sexualized movement. And so you can kind of spot 268 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: the differences between healthy and harmful dance without being an expert, 269 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: because children look like children or children look like adults. 270 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: So I hope that's helpful to your viewers. And I'll 271 00:16:54,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: tell you the American Psychological Association defines hyper seonexualized dance. 272 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: Can I share that with your viewers? 273 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 274 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they say, And this is the apa. They say 275 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: that a child is sexualized when they're valued only for 276 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: their sexual appeal or behavior when their physical attractiveness is 277 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: equated with being sexy, when they're made into an object, 278 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: or when sexuality is imposed on a child and friends. 279 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: A child would never come up with the sexualized moves 280 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: on their own that we're seeing. Researcher Film Adams calls 281 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: it corporate pedophilia. Researcher Gale Dines calls it a pornifie culture. 282 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: That's why I mentioned the Internet media and porn just 283 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: a little bit ago. We are in a culture where 284 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: sexuality is the wallpaper of our kids' lives, and so 285 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: we have to take note and we have to speak 286 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: up and say something. You know, you hear that saying 287 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: at the airport, you see something, say something, you can 288 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: do that respectfully. It's because nobody has said anything, that 289 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: this has been normalized, that children are being turned into 290 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: many adults. And again the outcome is trauma. It's trauma 291 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: when we teach women and some little boys because they're 292 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: getting sucked into this too, that externals and looking sexy 293 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: like an adult is what your goal needs to be. 294 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: The traumatic effects really produce human beings. There are a 295 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: shell of what they need to really grow and develop into. 296 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: When children take healthy dance, it develops the whole person, mind, 297 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: body and spirit. So it's, as I said earlier, a wonderful, 298 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: wonderful tool to help a job, a child grow into 299 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: what they need to be. 300 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, there's also the role of the parents, which I 301 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: think we also maybe haven't focused on enough how to 302 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: protect our kids when we choose activities for them. We're 303 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: so proud of them, we want to be telling everybody 304 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: about it. And there's this new term that I had 305 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: never heard before called sharanting, and it means that you're 306 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: sharing videos of your kids online, You're sharing pictures of 307 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: your kids online. And I've done it when the girls 308 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: were little, I shared pictures of them at their dance recitals, 309 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: and you know, they did look like children, they had 310 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: their two twos on. But you think you're safe because 311 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: you're on your page. And I think that's something we 312 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: need to talk about. Not only is it that other 313 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: people are seeing that, but also your kids are seen that. 314 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: And now we're hearing that one in three preteens is 315 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: saying they want to be an influencer. So this can 316 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: all lead to something that is very negative for your 317 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: child self esteem. 318 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: You know, it's really broadened and gone way beyond just 319 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: posting a picture of your child on Facebook or another 320 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: social media platform, which initially is very appropriate. But we 321 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: live in a different age and I can share with you. 322 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty three, the New York Times released an 323 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: article called the Age of Childhood, and in that article 324 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: they talked about innocence and they said, and this is 325 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: way back in nineteen eighty three, that we've gone through 326 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: a shift. We'd gone from an age of protection that 327 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: is shielding children from adult issues to an age of 328 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: preparation that is exposing children to adult issues. And you 329 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: can see if you take that tread of exposing children 330 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: to adult issues, where we are in twenty twenty six. 331 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: So it's something I don't think any parent thought about. 332 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: And again part of that is the Internet exposure of 333 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: this kind of content to children. Nobody ever dreamed would happen. 334 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: So in dance awareness, we never point our finger at 335 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: parents or adults or shame them. A lot of this 336 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: has just happened so quickly, yes, and so we don't 337 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: have fingers to point at you and say you're a 338 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: bad parent or a bad person. What we do have 339 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: is education for you, so you know the differences between 340 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: healthy and harmful dance. We are affiliated with the National 341 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: Center and Sexual Exploitation in Washington, d C. So our 342 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: research is outstanding. Again, I want to say, come on 343 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: to our website and you can use all our free materials. 344 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: We have a couple of four minute trailers that really 345 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: do you educate in a very short amount of time. 346 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: They're also good to show to your kids and discuss it. 347 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing in them that you're going to be upset 348 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: about seeing. Probably they've seen it way before you. Although 349 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: we really try not to have so much in our 350 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: trailers that you'd be embarrassed about, so you can use those. 351 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: We have colleges, universities, high schools, churches using our materials 352 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: to start the discussion. And you will be surprised your 353 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: kids know a lot more than you do. Yeah, they do. 354 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: And I do think that shows that are glorified like 355 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: the Dance Moms Show, and if you haven't watched it yet, 356 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: the concept is kind of that you have all these moms, 357 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: they're very focused on their children's dance. They obviously they're 358 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: they're following the girls through dance. The instructor is very 359 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: hard on these girls and as. 360 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: You listen to it. 361 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: I mean one the moms are like totally invested also 362 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: in dance. And one of the one of the episodes 363 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: that they had on just the other day, the girl like, 364 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: I don't she made a mistake. She goes and she 365 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: is hiding behind a curtain crying. Of course, this is 366 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: also for the cameras, but the kids are watching it thinking, well, 367 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: this is real life, and the moms well, I don't 368 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: know why you're crying. Your life is not dance, and 369 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: I think, but this is how you're portraying her life. 370 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: She's on TV for dance, so yes, she does think 371 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: her life is danced. And she is a child. I 372 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: mean we're talking about kids that are ten and twelve 373 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: years old. You actually ride and you have a story 374 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: about a young woman who danced from age twelve to sixteen, 375 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: and she says she was hyper sexualized. And I say 376 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: this because she talked about how when she was twelve 377 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: she was dancing to Betney Spears Slave for You. When 378 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: she was thirteen, it was pussycat dolls buttons, and the 379 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: choreography was twerking and wide open legs, and the comments 380 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: from the dance instructor, which I think a lot of 381 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: these a lot of our dance schools, they have a 382 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: main instructor and then they have a younger woman who 383 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: is teaching other kids, and they are also watching these things. 384 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: That's why you have to talk to your kids and 385 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: understand because it can go to a dark place. 386 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: With again, you really go to a dark yeah. 387 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: Because this young woman was being told dance sexier and 388 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe if you lost your virginity you would dance sexier. 389 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was shocking to me. It's shocking and 390 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: not totally shocking because I know that this can go. 391 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: This can it can catch fires so quickly in a 392 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: group of young women, almost like you know, when I 393 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: was in college, they would say, somebody can get an 394 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: eating disorder, and then it's kind of like a social contagion. 395 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: But it's this. I think it's the same with sexualization. 396 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: You're right. It has caught fire all through the country. 397 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: And although I think some of the competitions are just 398 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: find a lot of them award hyper sexualized content. And 399 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: so if what wins the competition is hyper sexualized content, 400 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: all the dance studios and all the parents want to 401 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: have hyper sexualized content because they all want to win 402 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: and so we need to get off this treadmill that 403 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: winning is the only thing. It's not the only thing. 404 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: Developing your heart, your mind, and your body, expressing beautiful things, 405 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: beautiful concepts, and enjoying movement as the good medicine that 406 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: it is is where we need to lead children. There's 407 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: plenty of time for different young women and men to 408 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: decide they want to be a professional and compete, but 409 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: there's a great time, and it's called childhood where they 410 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: need to get to have fun and explore movement and 411 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: be a butterfly and you know we're at two two 412 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: and be in a June recital and just have a 413 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: wonderful time and get flowers from Grandpa and grandma and 414 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: enjoy and not be tied in to being an adult 415 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: and competing on an adult level. And again, that competition 416 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: theme is going younger and younger and younger children are 417 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: told they're not good enough at five years of age 418 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: to move in a dance class. 419 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Give me a break, No, you're so right. So we 420 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: actually had this conversation. This is why this is so 421 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. Having four girls and they all stayed 422 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: in dance up until middle school. But it was a 423 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: similar situation where they felt like it was a place 424 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: where they got put down rather than a place where 425 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: they were built up. And when I read your story, 426 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, we experienced this. And 427 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: my daughter just the other day she said, you know what, Mom, 428 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: I would have stuck with dance had I not been 429 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: told every day, if you could dance like your sister, 430 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: maybe you would be good at this. And I think 431 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: that is such a terrible way to be treated when 432 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: you're little. 433 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh she was little. Yeah, that's an abusive message. Actually 434 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: right there. That shows me that whoever said that is 435 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: not a dance educator. So you have to go to school. 436 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: You have to learn what is called pedagogy, and it's 437 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: a way to teach the art form that really informs 438 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: and produces joy in a child. Anybody who is aware 439 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: and educated would never say that kind of comment to 440 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: a child. So can I share our educational goal? Yeah? 441 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely please. 442 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: Do we have four of them just so you all know. 443 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: And again I'm going to say that we are a 444 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: free website, Dance awareness dot com, but we exist to 445 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: shelter and to protect children from hyper sexualized content and 446 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: adult adult costumes choreography. And music, and to protect the 447 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: art of dance, because hyper sexualized content is not the 448 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: art of dance. Then we exist to create free research 449 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: materials to give caring adults, and that includes dance educators 450 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: and parents and grandpa's and grandmas all around the culture 451 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: the information to know the differences between healthy and harmful dance. 452 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: And then we exist to engage in respectful conversations with everybody, 453 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: because this issue is not understood without shaming or polarizing adults, 454 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: so that they can have a chance to reflect and 455 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: hear about the research and the outcomes, and then to 456 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: make informed choices. And then we exist to communicate the 457 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: connection between the hyper sexualization of children and adult costumes, 458 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: choreography and music, and the pornography industry because children are 459 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: being groomed into all kinds of traumatic environments. So we 460 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: need to speak up and stand up. And we are 461 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: here to help and support dance studios that don't hyper 462 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: sexualize and curing adults who want the very best for 463 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: the children around them. 464 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 465 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You know, I love the story, 466 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: and I say this again because dance is such an 467 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: important part of my dandmother's life, and she passed it 468 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: on to my sister, and my sister was such a 469 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: phenomenal dancer. And I remember that clip, I'm sure you've 470 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: seen it of the woman who had dementia and they 471 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: played Swan Lake for her in a ballerina and she, yes, 472 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: she lights up and she immediately starts doing the moves 473 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: to the to the song and to the ballet. It's 474 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: just beautiful and it should be. It should be a 475 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: safe place. And that's why when I when I heard 476 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: your story, I was like, I want to bring this 477 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to people because I think we are so used to 478 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: not rocking the boat normal place. 479 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: We are normalizing what is not normal. Yes, and too 480 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: can I can I encourage you to tell your sister 481 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: about dance awareness and have her nominate some healthy dance studios. 482 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: If she's still a dance she knows so so they 483 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: can be in our healthy dance directory. And all that 484 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: happened is people know about healthy dance studios. So to 485 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: all the listeners out there, please nominate dance studios that 486 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: don't factor sexualize, and please look up our directory so 487 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: that you can find them. 488 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: So it's a both a yes, absolutely, I will do that, 489 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: and I know our audience will do that too. Thank 490 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: you so much for sharing about this today. It's so important, 491 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and it's so wonderful for our girl's future and our 492 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: boys future and their confidence and their confidence and learning 493 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: about themselves. So Mary a lot, thank you for coming 494 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: on today. 495 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: All right, I'm happy to do it. 496 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the 497 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can find us wherever 498 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, Rumble 499 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: or YouTube. Just check us out, make sure you join 500 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: us at Tutor Dixon and right now go have a 501 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: blessed day.