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Speaker 3: Gang's all here, ready to go, the Minister of Humor,
Speaker 3: Fritzy Seaton, Mar Paulie yours truly the back room guys.
Speaker 2: Seatan just ruined one word for me.
Speaker 3: Now, whenever I see this word, certainly when it comes
Speaker 3: to sports, I'm going to think of a word inside
Speaker 3: of a word. We were looking at the Houston Texans,
Speaker 3: and as tradition would have it, the Texans always play
Speaker 3: on that Wildcard Saturday when they're in the postseason, they're
Speaker 3: always the early game. It's a tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 3: So Setan goes, I'm looking at the list of all
Speaker 3: of the times the Texans have been in the wild
Speaker 3: Card playing the early game, and he said, I can't
Speaker 3: help but focus on a word inside the word, So
Speaker 3: go ahead, Seaton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just never noticed it.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, when I saw that graphic on TV,
Speaker 4: it was there like a dozen times the words Saturday
Speaker 4: and all in a row, and for some reason, I
Speaker 4: just I don't know how I never noticed this before,
Speaker 4: but I saw the word turd written in Saturday, and
Speaker 4: it's all I could see was three thirty TIRD through
Speaker 4: thirty tur through thirty TIRD through third every year through
Speaker 4: thirty TIRD through thirty thirty. Wow, why is this what
Speaker 4: my eyes are choosing to focus on? That's what my
Speaker 4: brain is saying, like this is the important part of this.
Speaker 3: The Texans playing the early game on Saturn sat turd Day?
Speaker 2: Is that tured day?
Speaker 3: Yes, tradition unlike any other eight seven seven three DP
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Speaker 3: We'll check in with the Dallas Cowboys because Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 3: I guess, was an extended an invitation to interview for
Speaker 3: the Bear's job, but now he has to wait to
Speaker 3: see what Jerry Jones is going to do. It's embarrassing
Speaker 3: and Mike McCarthy deserves better than that. But Jerry, for
Speaker 3: some reason, either you're going to keep him or you're not.
Speaker 3: And now the Bears may be interested, whether it's real
Speaker 3: or not, but maybe somebody's doing Mike McCarthy is solid there,
Speaker 3: but his contract expires in a week. Then he doesn't
Speaker 3: need permission, but Jerry's going to make him squirm, I guess,
Speaker 3: and then he's going to have to wait Bears are
Speaker 3: going to I don't know why the Bears didn't just wait,
Speaker 3: wait a week and then Mike McCarthy's either with the
Speaker 3: Cowboys or not. You don't have to ask for permission,
Speaker 3: but the Bears want to let their fan base know.
Speaker 3: We are interviewing everybody because this is a franchise that
Speaker 3: didn't talk to Jim Harball.
Speaker 2: Last year.
Speaker 3: Former Bears quarterback Jim Harball National Champion winner Jim Harble
Speaker 3: didn't talk to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Okay, this to me is malpractice.
Speaker 3: This is where you have to do this for your franchise,
Speaker 3: whether you're going to hire Jim Harball or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Boy, I want to know what you think of my organization.
Speaker 5: That's all.
Speaker 2: You can go in and be open minded and say, hey,
Speaker 2: give me your pitch.
Speaker 3: What do you see? What do you think? Now I've
Speaker 3: got what Harball thinks of the Bears, and I've got
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and what they think. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I didn't pay anything except for maybe first class travel
Speaker 3: in a hotel.
Speaker 2: That's it. Maybe a dinner. Why wouldn't you do that?
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you bring in Harball, Why wouldn't you bring
Speaker 3: in Belichick? Bring in Mike McCarthy let them. I want
Speaker 3: him to tell you what he thought when he was
Speaker 3: in Green Bay when he played against the Bears. Granted
Speaker 3: maybe none of those players is still there, but just
Speaker 3: the organization, what he would do, what he thought of
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, all of those things. You're crazy not to
Speaker 3: factor that in when you bring in people to interview
Speaker 3: for a job, because you get all of that information
Speaker 3: for free, and they chose not to do that last year.
Speaker 3: I think now what they're saying to their fan base is, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to bring in everybody we can, Benjon, Mike Brabel,
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy. Maybe there's a couple other coordinators out there.
Speaker 3: Maybe bring in Pete Carroll, bring them all in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. PAULI a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: Ago at Broke in Chicago that when the Bears interviewed
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn for their coaching job two years ago, they
Speaker 6: flew him in coach, not first class, not a private
Speaker 6: jet coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dan McNeil had this in his book and talked about
Speaker 3: just how they screw up their coaching decisions. You bring
Speaker 3: in Dan Quinn and you bring him in coach. Now,
Speaker 3: maybe they screwed that up and they said, hey, we're
Speaker 3: going to bring in you know, dan Quinn coach. And
Speaker 3: then somebody in the front office, maybe a secretary, goes, okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to fly in dan Quinn coach. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: he should have been first class, not dan Quinn coach.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Eight seven to seven three DP show email address DP
Speaker 3: at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle, the TP show some
Speaker 3: phone calls coming up. Five head coaching vacancies as we
Speaker 3: speak in Rapaport a little bit later on on the
Speaker 3: best job that's opened now, that's our poll question from
Speaker 3: our one.
Speaker 2: Give me the results, Seaton. Yeah, we got up there
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: Which is the best job the five options you were
Speaker 4: just mentioning Bears, Jaguars, Jets, Patriots, Saints right now. The
Speaker 4: Bears they have about fifty one percent of that vote
Speaker 4: right now, followed by the Jaguars and Patriots are basically tied,
Speaker 4: Saints and then Jets are in last.
Speaker 2: Jets are last.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, Jets only have about five percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants that job. See, I figure if Rex Ryan
Speaker 2: wants it, then give it to him. Definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I want somebody who really wants that job.
Speaker 2: Whenever you're ready for Daddy to come home. I'm right here.
Speaker 2: I'm right here. Just say the word.
Speaker 3: Say good morning those watching on Peacock, thank you for
Speaker 3: downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio
Speaker 3: affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. I harp
Speaker 3: on this a lot. It's called getting on my soapbox.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do it again because I love to
Speaker 3: have a team that can run the football. Top ten
Speaker 3: rushing yards per game this season Ravens playoffs, Philly playoffs,
Speaker 3: Washington playoffs, Tampa playoffs, Green Bay playoffs, Detroit playoffs. Then
Speaker 3: you get to Arizona and Indy didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills are nine on that list. Then Atlanta
Speaker 3: barely missed the playoffs as well. These teams run the football,
Speaker 3: gotta have balance. You got to be able to at
Speaker 3: some point get some tough yards, control the clock, and
Speaker 3: sometimes your best defense is your offense. And that's why
Speaker 3: I look at these teams that ability to be able
Speaker 3: to be two dimensional.
Speaker 2: You can't buy into play action.
Speaker 3: If you don't buy into the fact that they don't
Speaker 3: have a running you can't go, oh, are they going
Speaker 3: to give the ball to Zeke Elliott. I don't care.
Speaker 3: By the way, do you see where the Chargers I
Speaker 3: think are picking up.
Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott? Yeah, And you were going to add something, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was going.
Speaker 4: To ask, did I miss my Chargers on that list
Speaker 4: of teams that run the ball?
Speaker 3: Okay, teams that made the playoffs, not inside the top
Speaker 3: ten and rushing Chargers what Texans, Broncos, Steelers, Vikings, Rams.
Speaker 2: So the Chargers with JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins, I would have thought, I think that's the ultimate
Speaker 3: game plan for Jim Harbaugh. The Texans with Joe Mixon.
Speaker 3: The Broncos don't run the ball very well. Steelers they
Speaker 3: I think they were on the just on the outside
Speaker 3: of the top ten. Vikings have Aaron Jones, Rams have
Speaker 3: Kyron Williams.
Speaker 7: Yes, Tom Yes, confirming Ezekiel Elliott to added to the
Speaker 7: practice squad of the Chargers, ess case someone gets hurt
Speaker 7: in the playoffs or something.
Speaker 3: M okay, Zeke Elliott, he was once a thing, not anymore,
Speaker 3: not anymore?
Speaker 2: All right, A couple of.
Speaker 3: Phone calls in here. We'll check in with the Cowboys situation,
Speaker 3: like what's the hold up here? And if you're Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 3: and he did get the opportunity to coach the Bears.
Speaker 3: Would you stay with the Cowboys if you can, or
Speaker 3: would you go to the Bears. I don't think he's
Speaker 3: going to get the opportunity to do both if.
Speaker 2: He wants to.
Speaker 3: Seems like like I don't know what happens in Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones's mind where he goes.
Speaker 2: That's right, I.
Speaker 3: Gotta hire a head coach. Well, Mike, why don't you
Speaker 3: just stay here?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 2: What's he waiting for?
Speaker 3: Maybe looking back over game plan or highlights? Having a
Speaker 3: straw boat here just seems a little odd if you're
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy and he deserves better than that he does.
Speaker 3: Jordan in Ohio, Hi Jordan, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Hey Jordan?
Speaker 10: Dan.
Speaker 9: I'm a longtime listener, longtime caller five nine and a
Speaker 9: moist worn eighty five.
Speaker 5: I want to give a huge shout out to.
Speaker 9: You, Dan and the dan Ats. Twenty twenty four was
Speaker 9: an extremely tough year for me and my family, But
Speaker 9: your guys' humor and ease me easy listening definitely got
Speaker 9: me through it. Like, just listen to you every day,
Speaker 9: hear in your intelligence sports talk. That definitely got me
Speaker 9: through some of the hardest times of twenty four. Now,
Speaker 9: the next question I have is a food for thought. One,
Speaker 9: why aren't the Vikings considering Aaron Rodgers. They've got JJ
Speaker 9: McCarthy on the bench, and I know he's a hot
Speaker 9: trade piece, but why not let Sam Donald go sign
Speaker 9: for the highest money contract you can get, bringing Aaron
Speaker 9: Rodgers for a year or two and let JJ McCarthy recover.
Speaker 9: I mean, I know that would make Aaron Rodgers a
Speaker 9: total carbon copy that Brett Farre's take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't go down that road. Thank you, Jordan,
Speaker 3: and you can't spell Jordan without dam But I'm going
Speaker 3: to distance myself from that one. I think I would
Speaker 3: franchise Sam Donald and then I would have him Let's
Speaker 3: see if he can do it again. I think a
Speaker 3: lot really hinges on what happens when they play the Rams.
Speaker 3: I really do. Because he did not look good at
Speaker 3: all against the Lions. Now, I'm gonna give credit to
Speaker 3: the Lions, but Sam Darnold this according to Dan Orlovsky
Speaker 3: of the mother Ship, missed five touchdown passes in that game.
Speaker 3: According to Dan, miss five touchdown passes. I think if
Speaker 3: they bow out there might be Now you do have
Speaker 3: Danny Dimes in Minnesota, so you could use him as
Speaker 3: a bridge, a cheap bridge. But here's the thing. This
Speaker 3: is a window of opportunity. And I keep talking about this,
Speaker 3: it closes rapidly. You want to win that. They might
Speaker 3: be the Detroit Lions. You know what the Lions did
Speaker 3: last year. Maybe the Vikings look at that and say, hey,
Speaker 3: let's run it back again. Maybe, but Detroit's going to
Speaker 3: be better next year.
Speaker 2: They are Green Bay is going to be good. Chicago
Speaker 2: may figure it out. Yes see, Detroit might be better next year.
Speaker 4: They might also be looking at like a whole new
Speaker 4: coaching staff once everybody leaves after this year.
Speaker 3: But all that talent's still gonna be there. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got a healthy defense next year. You still have all
Speaker 3: your skilled position guys. Everybody's under contract. You got Penny
Speaker 3: Sewell under contract, Golf, Jamier Gibbs on a rookie deal.
Speaker 3: I'm on Ross Saint Brown Like, they're gonna be dangerous
Speaker 3: no matter who's coaching them. You're still gonna have Dan
Speaker 3: Campbell in there. Yeah, you want to ball to the balls?
Speaker 2: Bet right now?
Speaker 3: Ryan's better this year and next year, Well, they could
Speaker 3: end up with the same result of winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: They could they could or or or dot dot dot
Speaker 3: Gabe and san Antonio. Hi, Gabe, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 11: I wanted to comment on the pull questions, but first
Speaker 11: real quick, took them horns this Friday night. Will Howard
Speaker 11: was owned two versus the horns, so when he was
Speaker 11: at Kansas State, he's gonna be owned three for his career.
Speaker 11: This Friday, I'm taking the horns. That's the five and a.
Speaker 3: Half on most Well, no, no, no, no, you can't
Speaker 3: take the five and a half.
Speaker 11: What am I laying them? How does that go?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, it's just straight up, Gabe.
Speaker 11: Oh, straight up, I'm taking the horns.
Speaker 2: You can't go.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going to take my long horns and I
Speaker 3: need the five and a half. No, no, no, you
Speaker 3: take the horns and that's it. Yes, sir, okay, thank
Speaker 3: you gave.
Speaker 11: On most desirable coaching vacancy. It's not vacant yet, but
Speaker 11: like you talked about with mich McCarthy, it's America's team,
Speaker 11: the Dallas Cowboys. You have your quarterback, your wide receiver,
Speaker 11: your pass rusher. You're a couple of pieces away from
Speaker 11: winning the division Sirian and the Eagles are about to implode.
Speaker 11: Jayden Daniels is going to have a sophomore slump. Cowboys
Speaker 11: NFC East champions next year.
Speaker 3: Dad, Wow, Okay, you're you're betting the Cowboys NFC East
Speaker 3: Champions and you've got Texas winning Friday Night.
Speaker 11: You got it, parlay.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bet.
Speaker 3: Against you, Gabe in your parlay there. I think the
Speaker 3: Cowboys can be in a track. You just have to
Speaker 3: be built for that job. Certain jobs, you have to
Speaker 3: be built for it. And you gotta be willing to
Speaker 3: surrender to Jerry Jones. You got to be submissive. Head
Speaker 3: coaches aren't submissive. Head coaches have to be a vocal leader.
Speaker 3: You have to respect him. Remember when you had the
Speaker 3: Wade Phillips Jason Garrett transition. What a disaster. Hey, we
Speaker 3: got your coach in waiting. You got a coach who's
Speaker 3: still there. Jerry has done this time and time and
Speaker 3: time and time and time and time again.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, I do kind of love Jerry Jones, like his
Speaker 4: statements recently kind of sort of along the lines of like,
Speaker 4: why do you think I bought this team because I
Speaker 4: want to run it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I'm there's never going to be a moment where
Speaker 4: I'm not the GM because that's why I bought this,
Speaker 4: and I said, this is my new job, this is
Speaker 4: what I want to do.
Speaker 3: I love that he didn't buy an expensive Porsche for
Speaker 3: somebody else to drive it. Yeah, he wants to have
Speaker 3: the top down and he wants to be heading down
Speaker 3: rodeo drive.
Speaker 2: Let Jerry cook. Yes, that's why I bought this. It's
Speaker 2: because I want to do this.
Speaker 3: It's spoken like a true billionaire, because I want to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, But that's like saying I'm gonna buy one
Speaker 6: hundred million dollar yacht and I'm going to be the captain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is the captain now? Yes, Mart.
Speaker 12: And in Jerry's mind, I'm sure he thinks he's a
Speaker 12: football guy that just got rich, like he just got
Speaker 12: well with the oil thing. He played football with Jimmy
Speaker 12: Johnson at Arkansas. So he's like, no, no, I'm not
Speaker 12: like the rest of you owners. I'm a football guy
Speaker 12: that just happened to stumble into oil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm smarter than all of you.
Speaker 2: That's when you know.
Speaker 3: When when players will say to the media, did you
Speaker 3: ever play like Jerry can say yeah, played at Arkansas?
Speaker 3: Was he a defensive lineman? Was Jimmy Johnson? And defensive
Speaker 3: was Jimmy Johnson? Like a nose tackle? I think they
Speaker 3: were defensive linemen. Weren't they? Marvin checking? Okay, let me
Speaker 3: take a break. Welcome back. We'll check in with the
Speaker 3: Damads Cowboys. We got more of your phone calls. I
Speaker 3: and Rap Report of NFL Network will join us a
Speaker 3: little bit later on as well. We're back after this
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Speaker 3: I love these hypothetical matchups in the postseason. According to DraftKings,
Speaker 3: if the Vikings meet the Lions again, Vikings getting three
Speaker 3: and a half the Rams, they would get six and
Speaker 3: a half against the Lions. Packers would get three and
Speaker 3: a half against the Lions. The Eagles, the Vikings would
Speaker 3: get four against the Eagles. The Buccaneers would get six
Speaker 3: and a half against the Eagles. Ravens would be a
Speaker 3: one point underdog against the Bills. Chargers would get four
Speaker 3: and a half against the Chiefs. Texans would get seven.
Speaker 3: So those are hypothetical matchups depending on what happens this weekend.
Speaker 3: Todd Archer, ESPN, NFL Nation Cowboys reporter joining us on
Speaker 3: the program, and you got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3: You'll always have something to talk about here to write
Speaker 3: about your reaction. When the Bears reportedly reached out asked
Speaker 3: for permission to talk to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 13: It certainly made it interesting for Jerry Jones to have
Speaker 13: to make it, maybe make a decision sooner than he
Speaker 13: would want to make. If he grants permission, does that
Speaker 13: tell us that Mike McCarthy is not going to be
Speaker 13: back If he doesn't grant permission, Does that tell us
Speaker 13: he is going to be back? There are so many
Speaker 13: different things he can come up with through this coaching search.
Speaker 13: I go back expect anything when it comes to this,
Speaker 13: because I go back to the last time Jerry had
Speaker 13: a coach with an expiring contract in twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 13: he interviewed Marvin Lewis and Mike McCarthy before making any
Speaker 13: announcement on Jason Garrett's status. That kind of where we
Speaker 13: are right now. Who the heck knows where they're going
Speaker 13: to how long it can take. I would think if
Speaker 13: it happens, it has to happen here soon.
Speaker 3: But why has Jerry left him dangling here? You either
Speaker 3: want Mike McCarthy or you don't.
Speaker 13: Right, you should be able to operate on parallel tracks
Speaker 13: during the course of a season and have a hypothetical
Speaker 13: list available in a desk drawer to say this is
Speaker 13: where I want to go when the season ends. We've
Speaker 13: seen other teams already make moves either designed to keep their.
Speaker 8: Coaching staff in GM or go out and make this call.
Speaker 13: Jerry has a Netflix series coming out called The Gambler, right,
Speaker 13: that's supposed to come out at some point here in
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8: I don't know if he's much of a gambler anymore.
Speaker 8: This is just not how he operates.
Speaker 13: He takes his time on things and doesn't make the
Speaker 13: bold moves that everybody expects him to make.
Speaker 8: Maybe that will come back here soon and.
Speaker 13: I'll look like a fool for saying that, But I
Speaker 13: don't know why that. This wasn't a decision that could
Speaker 13: have been made yesterday, certainly can be made today. It's
Speaker 13: hopefully by the end of the week. McCarthy's contract aspires.
Speaker 13: Dan on Wednesday, Cowboys having exclusive negotiating rights through January fourteenth.
Speaker 13: I would think if I'm Mike McCarthy, I want to
Speaker 13: know by Wednesday, because I want to know. Should I
Speaker 13: look into the Chicago thing? Should I looking at these
Speaker 13: other jobs that they that these people who might want
Speaker 13: me as coach?
Speaker 3: But Todd, you've been around this franchise a long time?
Speaker 3: How much does Jerry love the attention? Like his team
Speaker 3: stays in the news cycle constantly because he doesn't wrap
Speaker 3: anything up. Michael Parsons contract won't be wrapped up quickly,
Speaker 3: Dax wasn't, CDs wasn't.
Speaker 2: You're a head coach here.
Speaker 3: It almost feels like I want you to keep talking
Speaker 3: about my franchise.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's how you become ten billion dollar franchise,
Speaker 13: I guess in some respect, right, because everybody's talking about it,
Speaker 13: everybody good and bad.
Speaker 8: Right, it's the Cowboys.
Speaker 13: Fans are going to be Cowboys fans, and people will
Speaker 13: hate the Cowboys. Are always going to hate the Cowboys.
Speaker 13: So you have so much the eyeballs on you that
Speaker 13: you draw attention to you. And I think Jerry he
Speaker 13: has said it, he loves that attention that is on
Speaker 13: his franchise at some point it's not conducive to winning
Speaker 13: football games, although he'll point out that they either fifth
Speaker 13: or sixth most winning his team in the last five, six,
Speaker 13: seven years. But ultimately, Jerry bought the Cowboys in nineteen
Speaker 13: eighty nine to win Super Bowls and they've not won
Speaker 13: one since nineteen ninety five. So what are they in
Speaker 13: here just to win games? Or are they in here
Speaker 13: to win Super Bowls?
Speaker 2: Is it a good job? If it's open.
Speaker 13: This is where I might differ with people who say
Speaker 13: it might not be a good job.
Speaker 8: I will say it is a good job.
Speaker 13: The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys has the biggest
Speaker 13: say in the franchise if they choose to be the
Speaker 13: loudest voice in the franchise. Now we can go back
Speaker 13: to nineteen ninety eight. I think chan Gaily didn't want
Speaker 13: Randy Moss. The Cowboys didn't draft Randy Moss. You know,
Speaker 13: there have always been some little hiccups along the way.
Speaker 13: Bill Parcels didn't want too. They still signed too. What
Speaker 13: was the corollary moved to that they cut Larry On
Speaker 13: That was the guy that builded one around.
Speaker 8: So that was one for one, right, there.
Speaker 13: But this is a good job beyond because it's one
Speaker 13: of thirty two, because it is the Cowboys and this
Speaker 13: is a roster that really was hit hard by injury.
Speaker 13: But you have a quarterback that'll be coming back, you
Speaker 13: have a number one ride receiver, you have Micah Parsons,
Speaker 13: you have other pieces in place that can win with
Speaker 13: you at a quick turnaround. But it's incumbent on Jerry
Speaker 13: to do more in the offseason than he did last year,
Speaker 13: where their biggest free agent signing was either Zeke or
Speaker 13: Eric Kendricks. They have to do more than that to
Speaker 13: supplement this roster. They can't just rely on improvement from within.
Speaker 13: But if the head coach wants the power or I
Speaker 13: don't want to say power, wants to say and it'll
Speaker 13: put the work in, he can have to say to
Speaker 13: get what he wants the majority of the time.
Speaker 3: But if you're al and you hear, hey, this is
Speaker 3: why I bought the team. I want to be the GM.
Speaker 3: I want to run the team. Like what Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: have fired Jerry Jones, Well, he.
Speaker 13: Hasn't done it yet, so I would say no, I'll
Speaker 13: sit and I don't want to come across like I'm
Speaker 13: defending the way Jerry operates this. But in Jerry's mind,
Speaker 13: the GM is the guy who cuts the check, so
Speaker 13: that's why he keeps the title. The GM of the
Speaker 13: Cowboys is really Will McClay.
Speaker 8: He's the guy that does the work that of what
Speaker 8: a general manager does.
Speaker 13: And if you look at how they've drafted since Will
Speaker 13: McClay has been here since twenty fourteen, it's.
Speaker 8: Been among the best in the NFL.
Speaker 13: So people we get hung up on the title, but
Speaker 13: Jerry is not going into the draft room and saying,
Speaker 13: who do you want?
Speaker 8: Who do you want? Who do you want?
Speaker 13: No, you guys want this guy. No, no, no, I want this.
Speaker 8: Dude, and we're going to take that guy.
Speaker 13: That's not how it works, and it's really not how
Speaker 13: it's worked here for quite a long time. I'll go
Speaker 13: on my twenty plus years of covering the team. It
Speaker 13: truly has been a conglomeration of efforts to get the
Speaker 13: right get the guy everybody wants. And we can point
Speaker 13: to another example of Jerry not getting what he want
Speaker 13: when they drafted Zach martin twenty fourteen and not Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 3: Oh I know I remember that because he wanted he wanted.
Speaker 3: He likes that shiny object there, and I go back
Speaker 3: that I think he wanted Connor Cook, and Connor Cook
Speaker 3: was taken, and then they took Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, and not just Connor Cook.
Speaker 13: They tried to trade back, trade back into the first
Speaker 13: round and take Paxton Lynch.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 13: So those are two two moves that the Cowboys are
Speaker 13: glad they didn't make, and they ended up getting Dak
Speaker 13: Prescott with not only their their second fourth round pick,
Speaker 13: a compensatory pick. It took a defensive end out of
Speaker 13: Oklahoma with their first fourth round pick that year over
Speaker 13: Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3: You go back to Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones that relationship.
Speaker 3: Could it have worked.
Speaker 8: Longer than it had?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: No, I don't so. I think Jerry wanted out.
Speaker 13: And again that was before my time here, but havn't
Speaker 13: talked to a lot of people that have been around
Speaker 13: and talked to Jimmy about it and talk to Jerry
Speaker 13: about it. I think Jerry wanted I think Jimmy wanted
Speaker 13: to go somewhere else too. I think his time here
Speaker 13: was done, and I think he realized there's only so
Speaker 13: long of a shelf life. A coach can have clearly
Speaker 13: that he and Jerry had differences of opinion on who
Speaker 13: did what and the separation of powers and things like that.
Speaker 13: I think it lasted as long as both sides wanted
Speaker 13: it to last, and it was time for them to
Speaker 13: split up.
Speaker 3: But if you look in the history of the NFL
Speaker 3: trades that were made, where do you put what Jimmy did.
Speaker 3: I'm giving Jimmy the credit for herschel Walker deal, now
Speaker 3: I'm sure Jerry gets credit to Bud. The importance of
Speaker 3: that trade compared to other trades in NFL history, where
Speaker 3: does that rank?
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know how it's not.
Speaker 13: I'm going to say it's number one because I can't
Speaker 13: think of another one that would top it, just because
Speaker 13: that was the start of everything for the nineties Cowboys,
Speaker 13: and at the time when they made that trade, nobody,
Speaker 13: everybody de thought it was for these players and didn't
Speaker 13: realize the pick element of it, and then how everything
Speaker 13: kind of that team was built through that trade for
Speaker 13: a number of years and the guys that they got
Speaker 13: out of that. So they have a tour at the
Speaker 13: Star where the people can come in and it's famous,
Speaker 13: right because everybody wants to take a tour of the
Speaker 13: Star and then see the players and things.
Speaker 2: But there's one.
Speaker 8: Segment of the herschel Walker trade.
Speaker 13: So that tells you what the Cowboys think of that
Speaker 13: trade and what it meant to them in their history.
Speaker 13: So but yeah, without that trade, there probably is not
Speaker 13: a Super Bowl run of the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 3: The Vikings don't have a tour where they focus on
Speaker 3: the herschel Walker deal just love you.
Speaker 13: Their tour involves Randy Moss going to them and not.
Speaker 2: The percentage that Mike McCarthy is back. Is what if
Speaker 2: you were going to put a number on this.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I talked to some people in the organization the
Speaker 13: last couple of days and before the game I think
Speaker 13: the people that I spoke to said he will be back,
Speaker 13: and it might have been a sixty five to thirty five.
Speaker 13: Talking to people after the game on Sunday and just
Speaker 13: what hasn't come out of the organization or out of
Speaker 13: the meetings with Jerry, it's probably.
Speaker 8: Closer to fifty to fifty at this point.
Speaker 13: Oh boy, And by the time we end there our discussions,
Speaker 13: it might be back to seventy thirty.
Speaker 8: He's staying because this is such an in the wind.
Speaker 13: As Mike I told us yesterday, he's in the wind
Speaker 13: just like us. So the players really don't know what's
Speaker 13: going on here either.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd. Good to catch up with you again.
Speaker 11: Got it.
Speaker 8: Thanks Dan, appreciate it, Todd.
Speaker 3: Archer, ESPN, NFL Nation Cowboys reporter. So got an exclusive
Speaker 3: negotiating window there with Mike McCarthy after tomorrow and see
Speaker 3: if they're going to bring him back. Multiple reports say
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel will be in Chicago tomorrow to interview with Bears,
Speaker 3: a formal interview. Oh, has he already talked to the Patriots.
Speaker 3: I don't see anything reported there. And they're gonna bring
Speaker 3: in Mike Rabel. It's gonna be fun. Yeah, musical chairs.
Speaker 3: I still think the Raiders are gonna make a move here.
Speaker 3: I think Mike McCarthy's back for some reason. I think
Speaker 3: it's one of those where you go, Okay, do you
Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen that they would let him go? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's the Cowboys and Jerry Jones. I think they'll
Speaker 3: keep him, and I think it makes sense to keep him.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I think he's a good coach. I just sometimes it's
Speaker 3: it feels like he gets blank, he gets kicked, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's not fair to him. But you sign up
Speaker 3: and you know that, and I'm assuming that, yes, he
Speaker 3: knew what he was getting into. It's like when you're
Speaker 3: the Yankee manager, you know what you're signing up for.
Speaker 3: You can't go Damn. I didn't know that they really
Speaker 3: cared this much. I didn't know ownership got involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's the job, right, Yeah, being the guy
Speaker 4: that gets kicked. Yeah, that's that's what it comes with.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see and Cincinnati. Hi, Bill, what's on your
Speaker 3: mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey, DP, I like to nominate Forrest Gregg as my
Speaker 5: coach that I most want. It looks like a coach.
Speaker 5: He was the only guy that could stare down Anthony
Speaker 5: Munos and they have Anthony say yes.
Speaker 3: Sir, I don't think he had to stare down Anthony.
Speaker 3: Might be the best offensive lineman I ever saw. But
Speaker 3: Forrest greg played for Vince Lombardi and you saw him
Speaker 3: on the sidelines, you coached the Bengals, and he looked
Speaker 3: like a former offensive lineman who played for the Packers. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 3: what about Bud Grant? Bud Grant, Yes, Bud Grant. We
Speaker 3: got the photograph there on Fritzy's desk. I love that
Speaker 3: Bud Grant didn't want heaters on the sidelines. You know,
Speaker 3: they were outdoors Metropolitan Stadium and that became part of
Speaker 3: the Vikings. Like I loved the Vikings growing up. I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Capp, Fran Tarkington, but they could never
Speaker 3: you know, they'd run into the Steelers and nobody lived
Speaker 3: at town about it when you ran into the Steelers
Speaker 3: in the postseason.
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, the Vikings had Bud Grant back to honor
Speaker 6: him when he was eighty eight years old. There's a
Speaker 6: picture them on the field. Everyone's bundled that the players
Speaker 6: have those neck things and facings. He's wearing a Vikings
Speaker 6: polo shirt and a baseball hat. He looks comfortable. Oh man,
Speaker 6: Col's afraid of him?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Art or ari in Dallas? Is it art or ari?
Speaker 14: Art? Aart?
Speaker 2: What do you have?
Speaker 14: So I'm a high school teacher and I've been noticing
Speaker 14: something recently that I don't I wanted your opinion on.
Speaker 14: I guess a PSA type deal, But I'm noticing a
Speaker 14: high high amount of boys that are on their phone
Speaker 14: doing sports betting and their parents have no clue that
Speaker 14: they're doing that. And these kids are talking about point spreads, parlays,
Speaker 14: and they're they're going behind their their parents back, they're
Speaker 14: using their parents social security or their older brothers, and
Speaker 14: like it's it's all day long. These kids have their
Speaker 14: assignments up while they also have points spread up.
Speaker 2: What have you said to them?
Speaker 14: So I've asked them if their parents know about this,
Speaker 14: and some of them say yes, some of them say no.
Speaker 14: At this point, it's on their personal device, not their
Speaker 14: school device. So at that point, it's like how much
Speaker 14: of this is with the school? So I've tried to
Speaker 14: write some stuff to their parents as well too, And
Speaker 14: I've also told some of their kids, like, if your
Speaker 14: parents know that you're betting, how much do they know
Speaker 14: that you're bet Like how often? Because these kids are
Speaker 14: like all day long? And I have the privilege of
Speaker 14: working at two different high schools, and I've asked that
Speaker 14: all the teachers around and everybody else is starting to
Speaker 14: say the same thing. We're like, yeah, we're starting.
Speaker 9: To know that a lot.
Speaker 2: But I think it's incumbent upon you.
Speaker 3: If you can to gather other teachers, maybe the principal
Speaker 3: and say this could be a larger problem than we realize,
Speaker 3: and we need to collectively come together, and we need
Speaker 3: to have somebody come in and talk to the students.
Speaker 3: There's always a lot of you know, you know gam
Speaker 3: who have you know, they're in rehab, gamblers, anonymous, you know.
Speaker 3: There you can get somebody to come in who be
Speaker 3: willing to talk to them. And I think it's really
Speaker 3: important that they hear not from you, because they may
Speaker 3: not listen to you with this, but they'll listen to
Speaker 3: somebody who lost everything, who started out betting ten dollars,
Speaker 3: twenty five dollars, one hundred dollars. And I think if
Speaker 3: you could do something like that, this might be something
Speaker 3: where these kids years from now look back on that
Speaker 3: and say thank you, thank you, Art for helping us correct.
Speaker 14: And the other thing, too, is just for all the
Speaker 14: fathers that are out there listening, like take a look
Speaker 14: at your teenage son's phone because of the fact that
Speaker 14: this is what they're doing right now, and double check
Speaker 14: and make sure that they're doing that.
Speaker 2: Thank you Art.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I have DraftKings and I've told you my
Speaker 3: gambling situation. I quit cold turkey, but I needed to
Speaker 3: because I got caught.
Speaker 2: Up in it.
Speaker 3: I did make money, thankfully, but I was betting money
Speaker 3: that I didn't have, and I can see where it's arts.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you lose a couple of hundred,
Speaker 3: then you double up on Sunday, and then you come
Speaker 3: back on Monday night. I know how this works, and
Speaker 3: everybody says the same thing. I'm betting with money I
Speaker 3: have to lose, okay, get you get caught up in this,
Speaker 3: and that's where you got to be aware of it,
Speaker 3: because you know, I was probably twenty three, twenty four
Speaker 3: years of age. If you've got somebody who's fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 3: you don't have the wherewithal and I didn't even have
Speaker 3: it at that age. But just be aware of these
Speaker 3: situations because this is going to be a problem, and
Speaker 3: it may already be a problem because you get people
Speaker 3: who think they can win. You will never ever win
Speaker 3: unless you quit after making you know, you cash on
Speaker 3: a big bet.
Speaker 2: That's it. And you need.
Speaker 3: The cold hard truth with this because once all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you're down five hundred, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you're probably stealing stuff to pay for this. You don't
Speaker 3: want mom and dad to figure it like it can go.
Speaker 3: It can go down a road that is ugly and
Speaker 3: it can impact a family. And I think if you
Speaker 3: are a teacher and you have that ability to be
Speaker 3: able to talk to that, bring in somebody who is
Speaker 3: a reformed gambler, because they will give you horror stores,
Speaker 3: they'll give you the truth of what happens, and you
Speaker 3: really have to get, you know, get their attention. Scared Straight.
Speaker 3: There used to be a documentary years and years and
Speaker 3: years ago that was about, hey, if you don't get
Speaker 3: your act together, you could end up in prison with us.
Speaker 3: It was called Scared Straight. And you could see the
Speaker 3: reaction on these kids' faces. It's like, this isn't my
Speaker 3: dad saying something to me or a teacher. This is
Speaker 3: somebody who's in prison saying you could end up here.
Speaker 3: Scared Straight take a break back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3: A light bit of news from Adam Schefter from the Mothership,
Speaker 3: who says that Ran Carthon is out as the Titans
Speaker 3: general manager, per sources, spent two years in Tennessee with
Speaker 3: two different head coaches, and here they have the number
Speaker 3: one overall pick, and they will have a new GM
Speaker 3: to help.
Speaker 2: Make that pick. All right, poll question, what job is
Speaker 2: the best job available?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 2: We're not including the Cowboys in this, PAULI just the
Speaker 2: five current opening.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go around the room. The best coaching vacancy
Speaker 3: right now in the NFL is what Todd the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 7: Even though it's a tough division. You know, we've got
Speaker 7: Caleb there. I'm assuming he's going to improve and not regress.
Speaker 7: Big city expectations aren't huge. I like a Chicago Bears job.
Speaker 2: The expectations are huge.
Speaker 7: Even though the Lions and Vikings and Packers are no.
Speaker 3: No. They had them as a playoff team. The fans
Speaker 3: thought they were going to be a playoff team. They
Speaker 3: had the number one pick. They thought they were going
Speaker 3: to be a playoff team. Expectations will not diminish next year,
Speaker 3: They'll be even heightened. Now we're going to assume that
Speaker 3: the pay is the same for all the coaches, all
Speaker 3: these vacancies, the pay is the same. So Fritzi has
Speaker 3: the Bears as the most attractive job Seaton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably the Bears because
Speaker 4: they already have some pieces and they seem a little
Speaker 4: further along in the rebuild process than like say, the Patriots.
Speaker 4: They got one guy and then a bunch of openings.
Speaker 4: They got a lot of money though, yeah they do.
Speaker 4: They got a lot of money to spend. I just
Speaker 4: I don't know why they didn't spend that money this
Speaker 4: past year, all right, Marvin Besting opening best vacancy.
Speaker 12: Because of that reason about the money I have the Patriots, Oh,
Speaker 12: they got their quarterback. They got a bunch of money
Speaker 12: to spend. Hopefully they spend it wisely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know if I want to
Speaker 3: go into that situation knowing that the guy before you
Speaker 3: was a one and donner And are you going to
Speaker 3: spend the money because you I mean, this is like
Speaker 3: a three year build out here, and will they be
Speaker 3: patient in a three year build out here?
Speaker 2: Paulie best opening is.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say the Bears because of their
Speaker 6: questionable ownership, their focus on a new stadium instead of
Speaker 6: making a good football team should be the other way around.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Patriots.
Speaker 6: Quality ownership, quality, history, lots of money, very good young quarterback.
Speaker 3: I would say the Bears, because you do have your quarterback.
Speaker 3: If you believe you got your quarterback, you got a
Speaker 3: couple of good receivers.
Speaker 2: I thought that they.
Speaker 3: Were going to be a playoff team this year, or
Speaker 3: at least right on the cosp I thought that they
Speaker 3: would be a nine win team. When they were four
Speaker 3: and two, you lose to they lost in London. They
Speaker 3: also lost to the Commanders, and then after that it
Speaker 3: just went downhill from there. And I think that's where
Speaker 3: you're like, oh boy, this is you know, even this
Speaker 3: last game of the year and they were a big
Speaker 3: underdog against Green Bay and I said, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: everybody's playing for the Bears, right And I said this
Speaker 3: to Paulie. I said, this doesn't that pointspread doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3: I thought the Bears could win this game. They ended
Speaker 3: up winning the game. It's a rivalry game. It's like
Speaker 3: the Saints against the Buccaneers. I would have taken the
Speaker 3: Saints in the points. I would have taken the Bears
Speaker 3: against the Packers. Yes, Paulin, the Bears.
Speaker 2: Lead the league in irony.
Speaker 6: Winning the last game against your big rival to give
Speaker 6: a weird sense of hope to your fan base. If
Speaker 6: you go back, remember the loss against the Commanders. I
Speaker 6: think that was week seven or eight, and they had
Speaker 6: the game and Jaden Daniels was going to lose to
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams weirdly and the defensive back was looking the
Speaker 6: wrong way and the touchdown. It went completely south after that, Yeah, wild, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They you lose in London, you lose on last second,
Speaker 3: and that one of those losses. And we talked about this,
Speaker 3: sometimes a loss is more than just one loss that
Speaker 3: it lingers. It's like one and a half losses or
Speaker 3: two losses, and it stays there, and then you keep
Speaker 3: thinking about that loss. People keep questioning, how did you
Speaker 3: lose that game? Why didn't you cover that, Why didn't
Speaker 3: you do that? Why was he doing that? Then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, it just kind of permeates. It's just there.
Speaker 3: It's almost like smoke that gets into your clothing even
Speaker 3: after you've watched it, and it doesn't leave.
Speaker 2: Sean and Oregon. Hi, Sean, welcome.
Speaker 15: Back, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. You know
Speaker 15: I heard you earlier talking about guys that want to
Speaker 15: be a star or and stay in the limelight. And
Speaker 15: I heard you guys talking about guys that you know
Speaker 15: they don't look like coaches. Well, this guy that wants
Speaker 15: to stay in the limelight, and he looks like the
Speaker 15: jandor it's Bill Belichick. When I think of that good
Speaker 15: looking coaches and really good professional coaches, I think of
Speaker 15: Tom Landry and how Tom Landry was just he was the.
Speaker 2: Mall yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We talked about that demeanor, suit and tie hat, looked
Speaker 3: like he was either going to church or just coming
Speaker 3: from church. And of course played in the stadium where
Speaker 3: they had the opening so God could watch the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yes, ton I was always.
Speaker 7: Fascinated as a little kid, how stoic they could be
Speaker 7: winning thirty eight three or losing thirty eight three, and
Speaker 7: he would look pretty much exactly the same, never got excited,
Speaker 7: She had the same face on.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of these coaches, you know, they
Speaker 3: coached emotionally. Tom Landry didn't. He was just like, all right,
Speaker 3: wait are you winning? I don't know, Wait are you
Speaker 3: getting blown out?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin was he the last coach to wear a suit.
Speaker 3: Hank Straham wore one, Lombardi wore one. Trying to think
Speaker 3: Dicka wore a sweater. I think at a tie, yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 6: Mike Nolan the coach maybe fifteen years ago at the
Speaker 6: forty nine ers, he would wear a suit and then
Speaker 6: the NFL made him wear like the gear that they
Speaker 6: were gonna sell each week.
Speaker 2: Mike Nolan wore suit. Was he the last suitor? Yes?
Speaker 2: End of the suits? Okay hmm.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You would see Hank Stram and then he had little
Speaker 3: pocket square the like Kansas City Chief logo. Lombardi would
Speaker 3: be out there, but Lombardy would be like a short
Speaker 3: sleeve shirt, white shirt and a tie out there everybody
Speaker 3: and they probably went to church and then they went
Speaker 3: to their game on Sunday, Blanton Collier with the Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3: So I remember he had a hat. You know, they
Speaker 3: had a like a nice coat, trench coat out there.
Speaker 3: Now you look, you know Belichick's got his sleeves cut off.
Speaker 3: It's like he just woke up from a bender and
Speaker 3: I said, got a football game, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll just wear this.
Speaker 3: This is what you know when you're in college and
Speaker 3: you wake up and you're gonna be late for class,
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm just gonna wear this. I remember
Speaker 3: wearing warm up pants in class, like, hey, h it.
Speaker 2: Seems good to me. The tearaway pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least no, I didn't have tearraway. I always
Speaker 3: wanted tear away pants. That's what she said. Alrighty, Final
Speaker 3: Hour coming up. Ian Rapaport from NFL Network will join us.
Speaker 3: The team that didn't make the playoffs that's in the
Speaker 3: best shape going into next year. We'll talk about that
Speaker 3: coming up. Two hours in the books, the Minister of
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Speaker 3: after this