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Speaker 4: your screen, all right. B So we didn't even talk

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Speaker 4: about all three games from Thursday in the first hour

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Speaker 4: didn't talk about the Lions in division losing at home

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Speaker 4: to the Green Bay Packers, a team that I was

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Speaker 4: just kind of watching crumble before my eyes over the

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Speaker 4: last month or so in terms of how I felt

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Speaker 4: about them, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: And even though like from a completion percentage standpoint, it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a great day for Jordan Love otherwise it was

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Speaker 4: But is this game more to you about the Packers

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Speaker 4: and what they did? Or is it more about the

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Speaker 4: Lions and increasing questions about another team that entered the

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Speaker 4: season with championship dreams.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's certainly a blend to me. I think it

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Speaker 5: was more about the Lions, sort of like the chiefs

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Speaker 5: of the NFC, you know, right, Like there are plays

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Speaker 5: to be made. Jamison Williams is wide open throw an

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Speaker 5: accurate past year at Goff's probably gonna be a touchdown

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Speaker 5: it's just an off target throw. It's a play that

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Speaker 5: should have been made that wasn't made. Like the Lions

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Speaker 5: are doing that far too often. And it's weird with

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Speaker 5: the Packers, right, I agree with you. Where the last

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Speaker 5: month and a half, there's been a lot of games

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Speaker 5: where you're like, yuck, Like you're losing at home to

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Speaker 5: the Panthers, You're scoring seven points against the Eagles. You know,

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Speaker 5: like if you give up ten points defensively, that should

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Speaker 5: the results just haven't been there. And then yesterday it's

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Speaker 5: like take that, Lions. You know, we're just gonna sweep you.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 5: And now they're in a great position. If the fools

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Speaker 5: gold Bears start to head south, which I think they will,

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Speaker 5: the Packers are in a great spot to win that division.

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Speaker 5: And if you're able to do that, you're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: that's a big deal. It's a huge win for them.

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Speaker 5: So it's a hybrid, right. It says a lot about

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Speaker 3: But it also it shows that the Lions.

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Speaker 5: You see their talent at times, you see Jamir Gibbs

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Speaker 5: and you see their limitations collectively, you know, like that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and as aggressive as Dan Campbell has been, Brian

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Speaker 4: I don't. I did not understand the thought process there.

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Speaker 4: It seemed to me like they didn't understand they were

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Speaker 5: I don't get teams that do that right where it's like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why are we huddling up?

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Speaker 5: I always think of I think it's Troy Aikman who

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Speaker 5: They didn't even have that. This is like a regular huddle.

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Speaker 5: It's like, guys, you need two scores. You're down by ten,

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Speaker 5: and like if they could have just gotten a stop,

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Speaker 5: they put the game away. If the Packers, you know,

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Speaker 5: hate when when offenses are just like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: These aren't the things we need to do, Like James

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Speaker 4: they've kind of reined it in a little bit in Dallas. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like he's been a much better teammate. He's been an

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Speaker 4: excellent pickup for them. They need to figure out whatever

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Speaker 4: because he's just he has a tendency to do some

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Speaker 5: Man, dude, you read my mind right there. You know

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Speaker 5: you took the words out of my mouth.

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Speaker 3: You stole my words. J Martin, you know, losing another.

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Speaker 5: Job, that's right. You thought the stealing was over. Now

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Speaker 5: you's got news for you. It's still here, man, it's present.

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Speaker 3: Uh No.

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Speaker 5: It does really remind me of Steelers George Pickens right

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Speaker 5: they were always just sort of okay ish. They're good ish,

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. That's probably where the Lions are right now.

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Speaker 5: They're a team that's fighting for their playoff lives. They're

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Speaker 5: in these dog fight games where it's like bro not

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Speaker 5: But when you're in a dog fight against the divisional rival,

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Speaker 5: you know. And it's just like he doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: It's like, you can't just.

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Speaker 5: Create drama for yourself. The NFL is hard enough. It's

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Speaker 5: hard enough to win games. There are hurdles in front

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Speaker 4: So one guy that is not setting hurdles for himself

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Speaker 4: yesterday there's just like as good as Dallas is right now,

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys fans still have to be just biting through

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Speaker 4: term because of other things and all this. They weren't

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Speaker 4: winning when he was there. I understand this, but Michaeh.

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Speaker 4: Parsons is a mutant. Like what he was doing yesterday,

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff didn't look comfortable at all. It's not like

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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons just looked like he was on a completely

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Speaker 4: different wavelength than everyone else playing football that I saw yesterday.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny is it makes me think of

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Speaker 5: the Eagles last year. If you do like an Eagles

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons because I agree with you. The guy is

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Speaker 5: a freak show man. And I mean that in the

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Speaker 5: about Havoc when it comes to defenses, like Havoc plays,

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Speaker 5: you know, like are you able to wreak Havoc? That's

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Speaker 5: what he is able to do. He is Havoc in

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Speaker 5: But you know what's funny is think about last year

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Speaker 4: The crown is yours. So the energy that you have

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Speaker 4: So Jack White and Eminem in Detroit and then Post

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Speaker 3: I thought Jack White show was really good. Yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: I did too, And then I didn't even know Little

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like you know a pregame where they're

434
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 5: doing their pregame stuff and they're like, oh, hey, check

435
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 5: it out.

436
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 3: Here's a little taste of whoever's performing.

437
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, like for all the fans outside in the parking lot,

438
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 5: and I get like a little taste of that.

439
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: That's what they did for Little John. They did Little

440
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: John dirty man.

441
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 5: It was not like and now here is the halftime

442
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 5: show presented by Verizon Lil John.

443
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: It was not like that at all.

444
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 5: Tarico is like, oh, let's give you like twenty solid

445
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 5: seconds of Little John and move it along.

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 3: That was completely different.

447
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: So this afternoon we got two eight and three teams.

448
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: We got the Eagles and the Bears. I'm gonna give

449
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 4: you I know you said this yesterday. I'm gonna give.

450
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 3: You the soapbox here.

451
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 4: Okay, those that are Chicago fans out there, plug your ears.

452
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: Brian No does not believe in your football team.

453
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh man, they're so fugazy. It's not even funny, man,

454
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: It's like they're weird. Right.

455
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 5: The Bears are a team that I think are complete

456
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 5: and utter frauds. They haven't beaten anybody, They've beaten the Steelers.

457
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 5: That's the end of their resume, you know, like that,

458
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 5: that's not anything to write home about. It's a home

459
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 5: win against the Steelers, and you could look at this

460
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 5: and be like, hey man, but they're only allowed to

461
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 5: play the teams who were in front of them. Okay,

462
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: that only goes so far. They got blown out by

463
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: the Lions. Now that's back in week two. They lost

464
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: fifty to twenty one. J Martin like, that's what are

465
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: we doing here? They lost by two touchdowns to the Ravens.

466
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 5: You know, so the good teams that they've played, they

467
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 5: have not fared well at all. The only good win

468
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 5: they have and it's kind of like you know in

469
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 5: quotes is against the Steelers with Mason rum backup quarterback. Yeah, Cowboys,

470
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 5: you could say that's a solid win at home, but

471
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: the Cowboys were not then what they are now. That

472
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 5: was Week three. Cowboys defense was a wreck. Remember this

473
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 5: true the bomb I think it was to Luther Burden.

474
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 5: That matter had a flea flicker in there. It's like

475
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 5: just giving up big plays left and right. So even

476
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 5: that has an asterisk in my mind, like you're barely

477
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 5: surviving against the Raiders, barely surviving against the Commanders, they

478
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 5: had a miracle win against the Bengals. You've had five

479
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 5: double digit comebacks in the fourth quarter against mostly bum teams.

480
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: Like you're just not built to last with a formula

481
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: like that. It's great that they're eight and three.

482
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 5: Hey, great, I just don't think they're built to last

483
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 5: going forward.

484
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: Well, I mean they're already I mean, just what they've

485
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 4: already accomplished, they've all they've shown steps in the right direction.

486
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: Those are games they're not winning last year. Yeah, you

487
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: beat the Raiders twenty five to twenty four, you beat

488
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: the Commanders I think without Jayden Daniels twenty five to

489
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 4: twenty four. You win a Giants game twenty four to twenty.

490
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: You beat the Vikings by two, you beat the Steelers

491
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: by three. You're winning close games. That's not something that

492
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 4: is going to work long term. It never does year

493
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: to year. The teams that you can easily fade, or

494
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: the teams that you can say, yeah, probably not gonna

495
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 4: have as good a year this year's last year are

496
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Speaker 4: the ones they're winning those close games. It's just not

497
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Speaker 4: something that happens on a consistent basis. Question is going

498
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: to happen for the next, you know, eight nine weeks

499
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Speaker 4: for them to put themselves in a spot. They've got

500
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Speaker 4: a tough sled. It starts today at Philly, and then

501
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: it's at Green Bay and then they go to Cleveland,

502
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: and that's going to be interesting just because of the

503
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: defense and what Miles Garrett's doing, and by then what

504
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: is happening at the quarterback spot for Cleveland and is

505
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: that more difficult? But they've still got both games against

506
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 4: the Packers left, They've got another game against the Lions.

507
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 4: They've got the Niners near the end of the season

508
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 4: on the road as well. So I mean, almost nothing

509
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: they have left outside of the Browns looks particularly inviting.

510
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 4: So what is their record at the end of the season.

511
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: B wow? I would say whether they eight and three

512
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: right now?

513
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 4: Do you have them losing today?

514
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: I do have them losing to Okay. I probably have

515
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: them losing next week against the Packers. Also, they might

516
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 5: get swept by the Packers potentially, and at the Niners

517
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 5: finish up with the Lions, I see at least three

518
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: losses from here on out. So I'll put them at

519
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 5: eleven and six.

520
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty good end up.

521
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: Eleven and six, Yeah, that's pretty good year for Caleb Williams.

522
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: And that's a definite good year for Ben Johnson.

523
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: No doubt. You would take that all day.

524
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: If you're a Bears fan before the season started and

525
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 5: said hey, you're gonna go eleven and six this year,

526
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 5: every Bears fan'd be like, great, sign me up.

527
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: I'll take that, no doubt.

528
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: And that's the thing is, Caleb Williams has played pretty well.

529
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 5: He's put up numbers that are respectable. He's only twentieth

530
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 5: in passer rating, but sixteen touchdowns four picks. Got to

531
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 5: get the completion percentage going. That's what's really hurting him.

532
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 5: Under sixty percent. That shouldn't be a thing in today's NFL,

533
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 5: but he's taken steps in the right direction. Under Ben Johnson.

534
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: The defense is not good, but they are fantastic at

535
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: forcing turnovers. They have twenty four takeaways this season. That's

536
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: number one in the league. That's what's interesting about today's

537
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: matchup because the Eagles are number one in giveaways. They've

538
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 5: only given the ball away six times this season. They

539
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: don't turn it over, So the Bears live off of

540
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: takeaways and the Eagles don't have many giveaways. So if

541
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: the Eagles are able to protect the football, They're not

542
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 5: fumbling it. Jalen Hurts has only thrown one interception. He's

543
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: so careful, right. This offense is just so careful. But

544
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 5: in a matchup like this against the Bears defense, which

545
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: is not good, they're giving up yards left and right.

546
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: If you're able to protect the football, I think that

547
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: the Bears defense is going to be in trouble here.

548
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 5: So I'm really excited to see how that plays out.

549
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 4: Three years from today. Who is the best quarterback in

550
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: the NFC.

551
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: North three years from today?

552
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean there's questions about all these guys, right,

553
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 4: Like Goalt's getting a little bit older, and I know

554
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: you're not a huge fan of his. Jordan Love, very inconsistent.

555
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, We're still working progress. And then what's happening

556
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 4: in Minnesota is not looking good at.

557
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: All, not looking good whatsoever.

558
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: If I had to put my money somewhere, I would

559
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: bet on the ceiling of Caleb Williams and I would

560
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 5: just hope and I would pray to the football gods

561
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: that this guy is just more consistent with getting rid

562
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: of the football on time. J Mart Like, I have

563
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 5: no problem with going off script from time to time,

564
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: extending to play from time to time. It makes sense

565
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: at times, but he does it all the time, like

566
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: he will not get rid of the football on time,

567
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: and it's not going to work in the NFL as

568
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 5: much as he does it. He's got to do a

569
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: much better job of one two three throw, you know,

570
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: one second, two seconds, three seconds, Like the ball should

571
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: have been gone by now, and he's just like, yeah,

572
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: let me let me buy like four more seconds, Like no, man, no,

573
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 5: you can't do that as much as he does. He's

574
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 5: got to get that fixed, man. And I'm gonna bet

575
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 5: that he can to a degree where he will be

576
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: the best quarterback in the NFC North three years from now.

577
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: My bet would be on Caleb would you go Jordan Love?

578
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: Or where would you go?

579
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: There? I probably would be with you, Jordan Love. I

580
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: need to see something consistent from him, yeah, and I

581
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: just kind of I don't know. I think his consistency

582
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: is just going.

583
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: To be sort of average.

584
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: I think at times he's going to have really nice

585
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: games and at times he's going to have the opposite.

586
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: I think that you're right the ceiling if they're able

587
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: to kind of harness, it is going to be higher

588
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: for Caleb. Caleb's got Russell Wilson syndrome where he's always

589
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: trying to make a big time play down the field

590
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 4: instead of taking what the defense is giving him. And

591
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 4: they do need to let him know that a five

592
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: yard gain is going to move you down the field

593
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: pretty effectively as well. And taking bad sacks and potentially

594
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: putting yourself in a spot where you're going to throw

595
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: throw into double coverage or fumble the football or whatever.

596
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: Let none of that is going to be particularly helpful

597
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: to you. But i will say this just since we're

598
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: on the topic of the NFC North, like I'm seeing

599
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: increasing numbers of articles about Minnesota moving on from JJ

600
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: McCarthy after this season, loan away at how poorly that

601
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: has gone, Like I'm not like coming out of Michigan,

602
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure at all. I definitely was on the

603
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: downside because he wasn't asked to do a whole lot,

604
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: although when he was asked to do it, he would

605
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: make two big throws a game for them and then

606
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: you know, defense and Blake Corum would carry him the

607
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: rest of the way. But I'm seeing the JJ McCarthy

608
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: that I wasn't sure what the hype was about in college,

609
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: And I don't want to say that because he's young

610
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: and you would think there's still a lot of football left.

611
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: But with the talent that they've got in Minnesota, how

612
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: long can they afford to kind of sit there and

613
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: wait to see if he comes around.

614
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: Man, it's a tough thing where you would want to

616
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: probably do a colts thing, you know, like you bring

617
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: in competition, you bring in a guy like Daniel Jones

618
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 5: who has a lot of starting experience, hasn't worked out

619
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: very well to this point, like heading into this season,

620
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 5: and he could at least be a guy that challenges

621
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, maybe he wins the job. Maybe with Shane Steikin,

622
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: he's able to revive his career, and that has to

623
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: a large degree been what's happened. So maybe you could

624
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: do something like that with the Vikings, because you don't

625
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 5: want to be in twenty twenty six and still like,

626
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: hey man, we're still riding this JJ McCarthy train right here,

627
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: and it looks next season like it does this season, right, Like,

628
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: you really don't want to be in a spot like that.

629
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: So that's probably what they would do.

630
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: I don't think that they like move on completely and

631
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: try to get a new guy, but they might try

632
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: to get a Daniel Jones ish like quarterback to push

633
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and if they need to have at least

634
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: a legitimate option to go to if the guy is

635
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: just stinking out loud again, because he's been brute, he

636
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 5: hasn't been just bad, he's been like whoa, what is

637
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: happening here?

638
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: Kind of bad.

639
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of incredible considering O'Connell and how smart

640
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: a coach he is and how good a coach he is.

641
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: That that that's what worries me, is like they're not

642
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: getting anything out of McCarthy, and I don't think that

643
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: it's the coach's fall. Like I'm not sure. I'm not

644
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 4: sure what we're looking at there. But the worst thing

645
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: that you can possibly do in this case is be

646
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: paying big top money to wide receivers but not have

647
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: a quarterback that can get them the football consistently. Man Like.

648
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: That is just that's got to be just dreadful for

649
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: Vikings fans out there. Every Olympic dream starts with a

650
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Speaker 4: So that's a that's a real thing that is occurring, Bruan.

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Speaker 4: I admitted earlier that I lost a job because of theft. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got another Maya Kopa after the break.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: There's something I've got to fully come clean on involving

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Speaker 4: being played, Okay, any upsets this weekend in college football

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Speaker 4: I gotta say it, man, I have to make the

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Speaker 4: right decision. I have to be honest with you people,

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Speaker 4: of the show. And I made a faux pas recently,

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Speaker 4: and that is I decided not to use original Louisiana

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Speaker 4: hot sauce. That was a big time mistake. Be ruined

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Speaker 3: Every day.

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Speaker 4: That's Louisiana Hot by you some all right, So here

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Speaker 4: comes the Mayakopa. I already admitted to something in the

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Speaker 4: first hour, as you told, multiple stories here's a prison

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Speaker 4: to go back to the podcast, multiple stories of Brian

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Speaker 4: Know being incompetent at jobs, the end being fired. Right,

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Speaker 4: Louisiana is an interesting place to be. Oh yeah today

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Speaker 4: because Ole Miss and Mississippi State are playing football today

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Speaker 4: inn e Egg Bowl and everything is And the question

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Speaker 4: I think is is information gonna leak before or during

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Speaker 4: that game? Remember Andrew Lux's retirement, Remember that happening during

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Speaker 4: a preseason game with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: Actually on air that night, Like I ended up going

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Speaker 4: on air like an hour hour and a half after

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Speaker 4: that because it was a Saturday night and just how

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Speaker 4: unfortunate that was. Well, as soon as this thing leaks,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna get out. It's gonna be absolutely everywhere. But

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Speaker 4: here's my may O cult. But yesterday we were saying,

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Speaker 4: you know what's gonna happen with lang Kiffin. Is he

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Speaker 4: gonna stay at Ole Miss? Is he gonna go to LSU?

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna go to Florida? Everybody's had their say.

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Speaker 4: Last Saturday, I went on record with Aaron Torres on

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Speaker 4: And I said, I think he's gonna stay, and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna stick by my guns. And I said yesterday, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna stick by my guns. He's gonna stay, Brian, He's gone, man, He's.

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Speaker 3: Like I tried.

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Speaker 4: I tried so hard to make this work because in

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Speaker 4: my heart, that's what I want him to do, is

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Speaker 4: stay at Old Miss, because I see so many good

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Speaker 4: things that could come from that, and I want to

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Speaker 4: see him make go. I think it's a great story,

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Speaker 4: all these different things. Right, my head's got to win

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Speaker 4: out here. I'm not going down with the ship. The

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Speaker 4: band is not gonna keep playing as the Titanic goes

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Speaker 4: down here, like I am unplugging and getting off this thing.

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Speaker 3: That man is headed to Baton Rouge. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, That's what I've thought this whole time. It just

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Speaker 5: seems so obvious. Like we talked about, right, if you

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Speaker 5: were staying at Old Miss, you would announce this before

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Speaker 5: the egg Bowl, right, like this is a huge game,

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Speaker 5: this is the clinch, a playoff spot, and you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: have this as a distraction, you know, in front of

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Speaker 5: your team. You would want them completely focused on the game.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry, guys, nothing to these rumors. I'm stay in put.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going anywhere. It's all Mississippi State right Instead,

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Speaker 5: it's like, hey, right after the Egg Bowl, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: have an announcement that just to me reeks of he's

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Speaker 5: out of here, you know, And I think LSU is

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Speaker 5: the landing spot for him. It's a huge contract. You

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Speaker 5: look at, maybe the recruiting advantages. There are a lot

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Speaker 5: of reasons that LSU would appeal to you. I just

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Speaker 5: think it absolutely sucks. You can't do both. Like, there's

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Speaker 5: nothing wrong with taking the job at LSU, but that

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Speaker 5: means based on the transfer when like the portal is

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Speaker 5: only open between January two and the sixteenth, that's it.

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Speaker 5: We don't have like another portal window over here. And

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Speaker 5: if you miss this one, it's okay, you could just

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Speaker 5: hit the next one. You have got to hit this

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Speaker 5: with the one and only now. So you can't have

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Speaker 5: Lane Kiffen as your head coach because it's gonna fall

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Speaker 5: within that window during the playoff. So if he goes

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Speaker 5: to LSU, he's gone after the regular season and you're

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Speaker 5: moving on with an interim coach for the playoff and

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Speaker 5: that's the only way it can go. It really can't

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Speaker 5: go another way, and I think that sucks. I would

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Speaker 5: like the window to be such where if Lane takes

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Speaker 5: the job at LSU, okay, but we still want them

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Speaker 5: here for the postseason because we got a shot to

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Speaker 5: chase a championship.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I said.

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Speaker 4: They didn't want him pretty much that that that story

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Speaker 4: came out yesterday that look, if he is or maybe

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Speaker 4: it even came out on Wednesday, that if he is

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Speaker 4: going to take the other job, they're not gonna let

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Speaker 4: him coach, And well I have seen it. That means

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Speaker 4: they may drop them a couple of spots in the

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Speaker 4: playoff rankings and send them on the road, right even

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Speaker 4: if they would have had a home playoff game otherwise.

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Speaker 4: So what a what a mess?

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Speaker 3: And I get it.

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Speaker 5: I get it based on the way the rules are

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Speaker 5: again with the portal, that's the only way you can

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Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if.

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Speaker 5: College football, if college football were smarter and we didn't

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Speaker 5: have the window where it is.

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Speaker 3: It's just a terrible window. I don't know why you

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Speaker 3: would have.

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Speaker 5: It's basically free agency during your playoff season.

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Speaker 3: Why would you do.

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Speaker 5: The NFL is not gonna open free agency during the

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Speaker 5: NFL playoffs. It's not gonna be like, hey, we'll get

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Speaker 5: to a breaking down championship Sunday with these two stud games.

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Speaker 5: But first man, what about the free agency? They wouldn't

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Speaker 5: do that.

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Speaker 3: It's just dumb.

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Speaker 5: But I wonder if the window, let's just say the

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Speaker 5: window is in February, if ole Miss would feel the

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Speaker 5: same way, they'd be out of their minds to feel

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Speaker 5: that way. It makes sense based on where the portal

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Speaker 5: window is. But if it's in February and Lane could

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Speaker 5: coach the entire playoff and then you could move on

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Speaker 5: with your next head coach, that would be the way

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Speaker 5: to do it. It's just the portal window won't allow.

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Speaker 3: You to do that.

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Speaker 4: So one thing our television on the television side, our

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Speaker 4: colleague gurban Meyer said this week was he didn't think

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Speaker 4: there's any part of this that has to do with money.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Lane's gonna get paid wherever he is, and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna get paid handsomely wherever he is. He's gonna

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Speaker 4: have advantages. But I could see where Herb is coming

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Speaker 4: from on this because he's saying it's about winning. So

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Speaker 4: my take on this would be if he leaves Ole Miss,

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Speaker 4: which I think is closer to a championship by far

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Speaker 4: right now than LSU in Florida, is is he admitting

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Speaker 4: tacitly that winning at Ole Miss as much as college

809
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Speaker 4: football has changed in terms of the landscape, and you

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Speaker 4: know what we're seeing with Texas Texas a prime example

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Speaker 4: of that. But is he still saying that there are

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Speaker 4: built in advantages to some of these more legacy programs

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Speaker 4: that the little guy still has to overcome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right, Like if you just you know, whatever you look

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Speaker 5: at facilities or anything that he's doing, he's gonna do

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Speaker 5: a comparison, right Like, that's what he's gonna do. He's thinking,

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Speaker 5: he's at one job, he's thinking about taking another one,

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Speaker 5: so you're gonna compare him right on down the list

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Speaker 5: and whatever he's looking at and saying, all right, our

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Speaker 5: facilities or this LSU's facilities are that, Wow, our nil budget?

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Speaker 3: Is this there?

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Speaker 5: Nil budget? Is that my paycheck? Is this my paycheck?

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Speaker 5: Is that he's doing a comparison all down the road,

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Speaker 5: and I wonder if some of it might be is

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Speaker 5: the last stop at Ole Miss, like that might be

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Speaker 5: the question he keeps coming back to in his mind.

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Speaker 4: Man, I still think winning the championship there means more.

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Speaker 4: I do too, because he'd be the guy to do it.

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Speaker 4: Brian know's gonna be leading the ship our three next

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Speaker 4: here on Fox