Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the cham He's still the twenty. He's at the twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty to the morning yearline history fifty forty, the
Speaker 1: thirty arline. Michael Run, Michael Run, Michael Run sets tops
Speaker 1: half a day. There you go in that shotgun sends
Speaker 1: three receivers left. Here's the staff of the glitzer has
Speaker 1: picked up Brady and he caught ball and he has
Speaker 1: the record at the eleven yard line. Mike Kevins becomes
Speaker 1: the first NFL player from lead history to record of
Speaker 1: thousand yards and bore in his first seventh season to
Speaker 1: want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Evins. Who can
Speaker 1: forget I'm looking against the side ays thirty touchdown Tamlday
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Speaker 1: We're the champions of the world and we still have
Speaker 1: I'm at a thirty three to go Devin White, but
Speaker 1: a great second season. That's it. We Casey Bucks, all
Speaker 1: the super Bowl champs, they can't stop the clock. We
Speaker 1: call them the Salty Dogs. Hello again everyone, and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Salty Dogs podcast time. Scott Smith and I
Speaker 1: am Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs. We are
Speaker 1: and this will be our last official one of the
Speaker 1: two season. Yeah not only uh yeah, yeah, it's another
Speaker 1: reason to be a little sad today. We were hoping
Speaker 1: we would be talking about the upcoming super Bowl at
Speaker 1: this point, but we're not. But I'm gonna yeah we did.
Speaker 1: We talked that, We talked about that last week recovery process.
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Speaker 1: we are going to use this last one okay to
Speaker 1: to uh, I guess you'd say awards, hand out awards, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pick pick our winners and a variety of keatis. But
Speaker 1: obviously we have to talk about a few things first. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we could what possibly could have happened on
Speaker 1: Tuesday February first, two thousand and twenty two. So it
Speaker 1: was like eleven in the morning or whatever when we
Speaker 1: finally you know we, I mean we did it a
Speaker 1: little bit after Tom himself did it, but put out
Speaker 1: our stories and our material about Tom Brady retiring. And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I just posted a
Speaker 1: story about the greatest player of all the time retiring.
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a full work day, right,
Speaker 1: I thought a home at this point, I thought it
Speaker 1: was it was a good article, by the way, good
Speaker 1: stuff I read it. Uh, there's only so many ways
Speaker 1: to say that Tom Brady was the greatest thing. Now
Speaker 1: he's done, is it me? Or has the last two
Speaker 1: seasons been somewhat surreal. It feels like one long season. Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it just never and and and in in a
Speaker 1: good way. I was saying that with Casey this morning
Speaker 1: or a little earlier this afternoon, because we were talking
Speaker 1: about how what are the Bucks gonna do next to quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: And it could be Brucearian said he was comfortable with
Speaker 1: the in house options, which could mean Kyle Trask, could
Speaker 1: mean Blaine gabbert Um. But he said they will be
Speaker 1: doing their homework because they always want to know what's
Speaker 1: behind door too, because two years ago they decided to
Speaker 1: look at what's behind ord two and there was Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and who would have thought that was going? And
Speaker 1: saying that now even it's hard to believe, right, it's
Speaker 1: almost like I'm waiting to wake up and find out
Speaker 1: this really didn't happen. You put Tom Brady in the
Speaker 1: Ring of honor now, oh, no question, no question, you
Speaker 1: have to you have to think so and ten over
Speaker 1: his two seasons here that we've never had a stretch
Speaker 1: like that, which is quite remarkable. And if you just
Speaker 1: sit back for a second and and think about you know,
Speaker 1: there was a missing piece and and Bruce Arians and
Speaker 1: and Jason Light went out and found that piece, and
Speaker 1: it was the right piece to fit in, because how
Speaker 1: many times have you seen teams go look for a
Speaker 1: free agent. I think they got the guy. He comes
Speaker 1: in and for whatever reason, it doesn't gel And it's
Speaker 1: not it's not what everybody thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: In this particular case, it was above and beyond because
Speaker 1: when he did come in the door, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people thinking, you know, how much is left
Speaker 1: in that are? And why would Bill Belichick not hang
Speaker 1: onto this? There were plenty of people that, well, well,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady kind of engineered that. Sure, the last contract
Speaker 1: he signed with the Patriots, he made sure that they
Speaker 1: couldn't keep him if he wanted to go, So he
Speaker 1: set himself up for that eventual second second chapter. Sure,
Speaker 1: but also people you know, like to be romanced a
Speaker 1: little bit, and you know, and I and and it
Speaker 1: didn't happen, no, and so um. But you know, there
Speaker 1: was a risk and re ward to bring him in,
Speaker 1: and it's certainly were there were plenty of people who
Speaker 1: thought it was was a great move by the Bucks, but
Speaker 1: you're right, there were some people who thought, you're just
Speaker 1: paying for what this guy has already done. He's not
Speaker 1: that guy anymore, and his numbers had declined a bit
Speaker 1: in his last couple of years in New England. But
Speaker 1: the conjecture on our part was that he was lacking
Speaker 1: talent around him. Put him with this group of talent
Speaker 1: players and see what happens, And that's exactly what happened. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't pass over five thousand yards with a dead well.
Speaker 1: And then in last it wasn't so much this year
Speaker 1: because the way defense is played from time to time,
Speaker 1: but last year lots and lots of downfield shots that
Speaker 1: worked and answering the initial question of can Tom Brady
Speaker 1: fit into Bruce Arians is uh, no risk of no
Speaker 1: biscuit of sure he likes to go downfield. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it totally worked in the several year. It was harder
Speaker 1: to do this year because of the way the defense
Speaker 1: is played. I think too is interesting and and it
Speaker 1: speaks volumes because as you kind of have to step
Speaker 1: back a little bit from it. This worked because I
Speaker 1: think everybody, and when I say everybody, Bruce Arians, Jason Light,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, all the coaches, the players, everyone kind of
Speaker 1: just stepped back and took a look at how they
Speaker 1: needed to move forward, and I thought it was interesting
Speaker 1: Tom made the comment about sorry about being such a
Speaker 1: pain in the butt, which you know, you have to
Speaker 1: check your ego for that type of stuff. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, when someone first comes in the door,
Speaker 1: I mean, just whatever you do for a living, when
Speaker 1: someone new comes in or you get a new boss,
Speaker 1: you kind of just wait to see how that's going
Speaker 1: to play out, because they want to put their fingerprints
Speaker 1: on it. I think that this worked better than anybody
Speaker 1: had ever anticipated that it would work. Do you think
Speaker 1: when he said that he was it was like an
Speaker 1: acknowledgement of the sort of idea that's been out there
Speaker 1: that since he arrived, he has been telling team architects
Speaker 1: like Jason Light and Bruce Arians what he wanted. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: like like he it's acknowledge that maybe he's one said, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you get Rob brand cows gut of retirement,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. He came here because in his
Speaker 1: previous interview before he took the job, I am sure
Speaker 1: that was discussed because he was not going to go
Speaker 1: someplacetut yes, and they were like, yeah, we want your
Speaker 1: I mean that's always been the rumor but they don't
Speaker 1: talk about that kind of no, And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. It's not. It's not it's a
Speaker 1: it's an effort from everybody. It doesn't work. It only
Speaker 1: worked because everybody wanted to move in that same direction.
Speaker 1: Whether it was the head coach with was Bruce or
Speaker 1: whether it was Jason, if it was you know, the
Speaker 1: other coaches, everybody kind of had to take a step
Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, how are we going to make
Speaker 1: this fly? How are we going to make this work?
Speaker 1: And it did, and as you can give some credit
Speaker 1: to team ownership to absolutely well, that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: possible for whatever they wanted. And when he said he
Speaker 1: wanted to get somebody, they said, go get him. We'll
Speaker 1: open up the checkbook, we'll get it done. I think
Speaker 1: too that you know, as disappointing. And I can't believe
Speaker 1: it's only been nine days since we played the last
Speaker 1: game or the last game was played, But I find
Speaker 1: that you feel disappointed about this season. But you shouldn't be. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't win the Super Bowl, yes, but
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't a total So I don't think
Speaker 1: I think there's and you'll see in these comments. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think there's plenty of fans who realize that a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl season and then a thirteen and fourth season
Speaker 1: in a in a playoff win is really good for
Speaker 1: any team, but especially for a team that hadn't been
Speaker 1: in the playoffs since two thousand and seven. And you
Speaker 1: know what, it had a lot of ups and downs,
Speaker 1: but it sure was a lot of fun. I would say.
Speaker 1: All I would say that is that, um, it feels
Speaker 1: a tad it unfulfilling because that there were expectations were
Speaker 1: building throughout the season, and I would say, right up
Speaker 1: to the point of that New Orleans game where everybody
Speaker 1: got hurt, we were considered front runners. Front runners one
Speaker 1: of two or three teams. You'd say, Okay, one of
Speaker 1: these teams is gonna win the Super if there were
Speaker 1: you know, those powerful as they do every right. There
Speaker 1: were plenty of times during the season, even in the
Speaker 1: second half of the season, where the Bucks were number one,
Speaker 1: and the writer would be like, well, it seems inevitable
Speaker 1: the Bucks were going back to the Super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: then you just ran into all those injuries, and so
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of what could have been sure
Speaker 1: And I think that the last year there, the injuries
Speaker 1: didn't bite the team, and this year, Yeah, what the
Speaker 1: NFL is you You can't control that stuff. But but definitely, uh,
Speaker 1: he made an impression on this franchise. And I think,
Speaker 1: isn't it funny how much you hated him before he came.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people did. Yeah, they I think, well,
Speaker 1: they hate the whole Patriots. Yeah, and then he's the
Speaker 1: face of the dynasts. But see that that's just typical,
Speaker 1: you know. And when people go, oh, I want to
Speaker 1: see someone new in the super Bowl, I want to see, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you want to see something new,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta make a change to make it happen.
Speaker 1: And that happened here. So in all of his different
Speaker 1: and hate it's a strong word, I should just say,
Speaker 1: rooting against me. Against all those um different social media
Speaker 1: posts the Tom Brady put out in his retirement acknowledgement today,
Speaker 1: one of them, one of them thinked all of the
Speaker 1: Buccaneer staffers. So I'd like to think he was talking
Speaker 1: directly to us on that one, no question, no question.
Speaker 1: But but I hey, I got thanked by Tom Brady
Speaker 1: on his retirement. But I think I appreciate that because
Speaker 1: he is understanding in the aspect that it's just not
Speaker 1: one person that takes it. Everybody has a role. Now
Speaker 1: everybody feels their role is the most important role, but
Speaker 1: everybody has a role. I don't think my role is
Speaker 1: more important than the starting quarters. Now you would not
Speaker 1: think that, would you and I would be easier to
Speaker 1: replace than the greatest quarterback of all time. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna find easy. Well, we're gonna find out how easy
Speaker 1: it is to replace the starting quarterback, not not the senior. Right,
Speaker 1: we have our story of the season. We do season now,
Speaker 1: that's next after Tom Brady, And that's just it. You know,
Speaker 1: do you want to be the guy that replaced Tom
Speaker 1: Brady or do you want to be the guy that
Speaker 1: replaces the guy that replaced Tom Brady? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you want to be that second guy. There you go.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, sometimes it happens. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: replaced Brett Farve, that went well right from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Herbert replacing Philip Rugors is going well, very very well.
Speaker 1: Very they can happen. Yeah, I mean, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the unknown again. You could be in
Speaker 1: a you're being like, where the Saints are right now,
Speaker 1: where Drew Brees retires and it's not clear where they're
Speaker 1: going to go. Well, not only Drew. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say that they have a whole thing to deal with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I think we talked about this last week.
Speaker 1: If you're Sean Payton, I'm not saying Sean Payton walked
Speaker 1: away because of this, but he happens to walk away
Speaker 1: when they're an absolute cap hell and don't really have
Speaker 1: a good answer quarterback. And you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, Tom Brady was was very significant in
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl, but there are other there are
Speaker 1: other people on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers players that are
Speaker 1: really good players. And yes, you know that's why he
Speaker 1: came here exactly. And so there, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns and you won't be able to say
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad until the next season starts
Speaker 1: and how well they play. But you know, defensively, I
Speaker 1: think you know the team's in pretty pretty strong shape.
Speaker 1: And generally you don't win a season after season in
Speaker 1: the same way. Even Tom Brady and Bill Belichick Dynastry
Speaker 1: they won in lots of different ways. So, um, we
Speaker 1: may not be able to win with a quarterback who
Speaker 1: always knows what he's doing and throws for yards, but
Speaker 1: we may be able to win with the quarterback the
Speaker 1: throws for four thousand yards and the defense gets better
Speaker 1: here and there we emphasize how great our offensive line is.
Speaker 1: You can keep them. And I think also the Tom's
Speaker 1: presence in the locker room. Lavanti David talked about it.
Speaker 1: You know it just does he leave a lasting culture?
Speaker 1: I think? I think so, because because you know what
Speaker 1: it takes to win. You know, sometimes you have talked,
Speaker 1: you have to experience it. We've talked about how I
Speaker 1: I'm of the opinion that when you talk about building
Speaker 1: a culture or either a head coach or a key
Speaker 1: player like Tom Brady coming in, that it's the winning
Speaker 1: that allows you to build that culture, because you say
Speaker 1: we need to do this, and everybody buys in and
Speaker 1: does it, and then you win. Now everybody's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well he knows what he's talking about. This is how
Speaker 1: we should be doing. Sure, having Tom Brady leave isn't helpful,
Speaker 1: of course, but he can leave and leave the culture
Speaker 1: that he helped build intact and now all these guys
Speaker 1: know what it takes, right, so he could still have
Speaker 1: a lasting impact even though he's moving on. And also
Speaker 1: I thought when I thought most we we would have
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for three seasons, I thought at the most.
Speaker 1: So I've still kind of feel like, well, we got
Speaker 1: too And then I was kind of hoping, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe one more. But you know what, any Buck fan
Speaker 1: that wouldn't if they told you in February we're gonna
Speaker 1: sign Mark, We're gonna sign Tom Brady. You're gonna win
Speaker 1: twenty nine the next thirty nine games, including the second
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and franchise history, and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: brilliant fun ride because he's gonna throw for a million
Speaker 1: yards and with all these great and then he's gonna
Speaker 1: walk away, and then it could be a little bit
Speaker 1: more difficult to keep going. You take that every time
Speaker 1: sign say where do I sign? Do you know? I
Speaker 1: saw it? I saw a graph that um that was
Speaker 1: showing how many teams have not won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And you don't think about it, but then it's a
Speaker 1: long list and they've never won it yet have never
Speaker 1: won it. It's not a long list of never been
Speaker 1: in it. There's only like five or six they've never
Speaker 1: been in it, right, Like Buffalo has never won one
Speaker 1: this example, No, no, see, neither has Cincinnati. Detroit's never
Speaker 1: been in one. And then it's your third time. That
Speaker 1: could change. Yeah, who who would have thought? Who would
Speaker 1: have thought that? You know? In the power rankings, I
Speaker 1: want to know who had Cincinnati on the Bengal card.
Speaker 1: I think if you if you re wanted to, Like
Speaker 1: late February, Zack Taylor was considered the favorite to be
Speaker 1: the first head coach to be fired. Yeah, now he's
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. Well, he's a fun team. I'm
Speaker 1: glad they made it. They are a fun team. They
Speaker 1: are a young, fun team. I think they got themselves
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and I think I think that's um you
Speaker 1: know has been proven without a doubt. You have to
Speaker 1: have a quarterback to to make things. They got him,
Speaker 1: and they got him. They got him now and he's
Speaker 1: just in his second year, so they got three more
Speaker 1: years of the greatest assets a team could have a
Speaker 1: great quarterback on a rookie contract. You know what he
Speaker 1: was with uh on Tom Brady's podcast Let's Go last Night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Joe was and um, really interesting. Uh his his demeanor,
Speaker 1: and he made a comment he was telling Tom that
Speaker 1: when he was he remembers Tom getting uh blown up
Speaker 1: as he was trying to run out of bounds and
Speaker 1: his helmet flew off, and um, Tom immediately told him
Speaker 1: who hit him? I can't remember. Immediately tells him who
Speaker 1: hit him? And Joe said, and I saw you just
Speaker 1: pop up and was like, okay, onto the next play,
Speaker 1: and he goes, That's when I decided I wanted That's
Speaker 1: the kind of player I wanted to be. But the
Speaker 1: funny part was, he goes, I was in middle school
Speaker 1: when I saw that. And when you think about it,
Speaker 1: it's crazy twenty two years playing at a very high level.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you were up to see
Speaker 1: it again. But hey, maybe I am happy for cam
Speaker 1: Braid because he is now. An answer to a very
Speaker 1: interesting trivia question last, who's who caught Tom Brady's last
Speaker 1: and who caught Tom Brady's last touchdown? Picks? There you go.
Speaker 1: It was the thirteen thousand, one or seventy second completion
Speaker 1: now postseason included for Brady last on Campbrate, and it
Speaker 1: was his seven ar and ten touchdown pass postseason inclusion
Speaker 1: but I think Mike threw the ball in the he
Speaker 1: did show. Now where is that ball and what's it
Speaker 1: worth now? And how do you approve that? It's clearly
Speaker 1: clearly keeping a bunch of souvenir balls is not something
Speaker 1: Mike Evan scares about it. And I don't that that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, nor does he think about anybody else else's
Speaker 1: records when it comes to But probably at the time
Speaker 1: and much of the time, he didn't know that it was.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was. I thought the last one
Speaker 1: was going to be in overtime. Yeah, exactly, So all right,
Speaker 1: So also, what does this have then the other half
Speaker 1: of this coin as to what are the other side
Speaker 1: of the coin as to what the postseason offseason story
Speaker 1: is going to be? What are the Bucks gonna do
Speaker 1: with a quarterback? And secondly, what does his departure do
Speaker 1: How does that affect the decisions made by this long
Speaker 1: list of twenty plus restricted free agents were about to face.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this, No, I guess with Casey,
Speaker 1: I talked about this. It's just there's plenty of reasons
Speaker 1: for let's say, Chris Godwin. Ye, there's still plenty of
Speaker 1: reasons for him to be motivated to stay with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying tom Brady leaving closes that door,
Speaker 1: but the situation would have been even more attractive if
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was still here. Yeah. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the other thing too. I think the problem we may
Speaker 1: have is not so much that guys don't want to
Speaker 1: be here. And we talked about this last week, is
Speaker 1: that there are going to be teams that have a
Speaker 1: lot of money that they can throw at them, and
Speaker 1: now it's becoming a business decision that yeah, hey, it
Speaker 1: was great, but well those guys should get well. If
Speaker 1: that can get paid here, that would be great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think I think you're gonna find out how
Speaker 1: confident our team architects are in us being able to
Speaker 1: have at least one more winning season, one more contending
Speaker 1: season without Tom Brady, because that will you'll see probably
Speaker 1: how they feel about that in who they try really
Speaker 1: hard to retain. I mean, if you break the bank
Speaker 1: to keep Chris Godwin, clearly you're saying we're not going
Speaker 1: through a rebuild. We think we can win still right
Speaker 1: now and as we as we're speaking right now, all
Speaker 1: of our cook is they're still intact, which is a plus,
Speaker 1: which was a bit surprising. Yeah, and could could could
Speaker 1: could be come on true, but that it looked like
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville Byron leftage thing was almost a done deal
Speaker 1: and that's been days now. So yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: there's there's issues with the who the general manager is there,
Speaker 1: but they're still I think what their five opening still left?
Speaker 1: The Raiders have signed. Ye, so um, the Giants have
Speaker 1: signed the Raiders and it wasn't there one of the
Speaker 1: team that's added a coach chic who's who fired Ryan
Speaker 1: and Matt and hired Ryan Matt? Yeah? Did you one
Speaker 1: more thing before we get to our X what do
Speaker 1: they call those X? I don't know, awards, honorable, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyways, is we now have nine players selected
Speaker 1: for the program. Yeah, and you're not and you're headed
Speaker 1: out and well even tomorrow Tom Brady has um he's
Speaker 1: not gonna play. No, that's and Tristan Wars obviously won't
Speaker 1: be ready play all. Yeah, he wants to go. Good
Speaker 1: for him. But nine players with some alternates now added
Speaker 1: four of them in total, the last one being beat Avea.
Speaker 1: That ties the most we've ever had in a in
Speaker 1: a pro Bowl, And it's exactly what we were wondering
Speaker 1: last year around this time when we only got one
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, and then we won the Super Bowl with
Speaker 1: one Pro bowler, tying for the fewest Pro Bowlers ever
Speaker 1: on a super Bowl winning team, and we're like, but
Speaker 1: do you think we're gonna get a big boost the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl bounce for these guys next year? And that's
Speaker 1: always the case. Almar Pett was really really good this year,
Speaker 1: but he was also really really good last year. But
Speaker 1: it was after we won the Super Bowl and had
Speaker 1: all the exposure that he makes the Pro Bowl, and um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's something as about this. Oh
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad that all all nine of those
Speaker 1: guys are going, but I kind of feel bad because
Speaker 1: when they go out there, all they're gonna get bombarded
Speaker 1: with is how do you feel about Tom Brady? So
Speaker 1: that I feel because you know, it's their chance to
Speaker 1: feel good about themselves and they're gonna be at you know,
Speaker 1: you're just throwing sting. I promise I won't be the
Speaker 1: one to ask that we appreciate that, but they're used
Speaker 1: to it, because I mean it was last month and
Speaker 1: some people in their press cons would still ask him
Speaker 1: the question, like, what's it like working with Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: I can almost see these guys cringe a little bit,
Speaker 1: not because it's a worthless question, it's just it's been
Speaker 1: asked a thousand times or the last two years, and
Speaker 1: at some point he just becomes your teammate. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: impressive in a lot of ways. Yeah, but he's also
Speaker 1: just another one of my teammates. Sure, you guys are
Speaker 1: acting like he walks on water. We're past that phase.
Speaker 1: Now we're bros. Right, how's it is it more important
Speaker 1: to be able to protect Tom Brady? Well, i'm whoever
Speaker 1: a quarterback back? Yeah, you know, if you want to
Speaker 1: be paid, it's best to protect your quarterback. But continue,
Speaker 1: that's all I got. I want to get to these superlatives. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what I did was I said, Jeff, let's do
Speaker 1: one more. Last week could have been our last one.
Speaker 1: Let's do one more where we sort of hand out superlatives.
Speaker 1: That's hand out some superlatives in our opinion. And I even,
Speaker 1: um so A listed listeners if they wanted to chime in.
Speaker 1: So we've got a few of those, okay, So, and
Speaker 1: I gave you the list a little. I gave you
Speaker 1: a little tend to prepare. You don't normally do. You
Speaker 1: don't usually like to spring it on. I wanted better answers. Okay, wow.
Speaker 1: So I think if I asked you who is the
Speaker 1: m v P of the team, we both say Tom Brady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's say who's the m v P and the
Speaker 1: non Tom Brady division? Okay, who's your team MVV I
Speaker 1: had a toss up between two. Was one of them
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, No, because that's my pick, Okay, Mine was
Speaker 1: Tristan Yeah, okay, he's He's I was going to talk about.
Speaker 1: And then Mike Evans. Yeah. Those are the other two
Speaker 1: I wrote down. And the reason why and the only
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't um give Chris it was I thought,
Speaker 1: because Chris went down, Mike Evans became even more value.
Speaker 1: He certainly did, and so that's where and and then
Speaker 1: with Tristan going down for the divisional playoff game, it
Speaker 1: was very noticeable. And so I'm still gonna final answer
Speaker 1: for me is Mike Evans. Okay, that's a very good choice.
Speaker 1: And actually it was the presence of Mike Evans that
Speaker 1: gave me pause before I said Chris Godwin, because I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that Chris Godwin is a better player than
Speaker 1: Mike No, I'm not either. I just think he was
Speaker 1: for how Marian games fifteen games, fourteen and a half games.
Speaker 1: He beyond Tom Brady, was the most critical part of
Speaker 1: our offense in terms of skill position players. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: could say you could give it all straight to the
Speaker 1: Probably the best answer is the offensive line. But I
Speaker 1: don't really I don't really want to pick one of them.
Speaker 1: That's hard. And I think we all realized when Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin went down that you weren't gonna be able to
Speaker 1: replace him, you know, and you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: replace Mike Games with another Mike Evans either. But Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin said so much in our offense, and his going
Speaker 1: down made us change how he did offense. Now, Tom
Speaker 1: did a good job of making it still work, but
Speaker 1: I always felt there was a ceiling on what we
Speaker 1: could accomplished offensively once god When was down. No, I
Speaker 1: agree that I can't all. The problem is I can't
Speaker 1: argue about it. I can't say yeah, well yeah, because
Speaker 1: you just can't both good players very much interesting worse
Speaker 1: is a good choice to I did not pick anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought about it and went through all
Speaker 1: the different positions, but I didn't pick anybody that I
Speaker 1: thought I could beat those guys on defense, which is
Speaker 1: a little unusual. I mean, if you're picking a defensive MVP,
Speaker 1: I probably go shack. But he just he clearly wasn't
Speaker 1: the same after the knee injury. Yeah, he didn't have
Speaker 1: a single quarterback hit in the two playoff games. I
Speaker 1: know how dominant he was in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: I kind of leaned towards the offense only because they
Speaker 1: were scoring thirty points a game and that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that for a long time or if ever,
Speaker 1: and with the Buccaneers, so that's kind of why I
Speaker 1: went there. That's kind of I went to the offensive side.
Speaker 1: I just don't know who is the one you would
Speaker 1: pick on defense as your m v p H. It
Speaker 1: was more of a collective effort, right, Yeah. I would
Speaker 1: have going into the season, I might have I might
Speaker 1: have predicted to be Devon White, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it was Devon White. He did not have the best year. Uh,
Speaker 1: Lavante got hurt. I think that kind of slowed it down.
Speaker 1: But I mean very valuable because you saw the difference
Speaker 1: when he came back, and you know, Vida Vella makes
Speaker 1: a big difference. Is he the most important differenceive player? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean they did give him the extension. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think that it was more of a collective effort.
Speaker 1: The secondary was constantly being re reshuffled all year. Antoine
Speaker 1: Winfeld was a pretty steady presence. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say the other one because he's gonna be the answer
Speaker 1: to my next question, which is actually both. He could
Speaker 1: be answered both of these next two one. Who is
Speaker 1: who do you think was the most improved player in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one? Me? I think it was Anthony Nelson's. Um,
Speaker 1: he was much more of an impact, had about five
Speaker 1: sacks this year. Um. I think he is starting to
Speaker 1: come into his own. I believe he's beginning to understand
Speaker 1: the defense. I think he's trusting himself with what he's
Speaker 1: a to do. Do you think it would be the
Speaker 1: starter next year? I would not be surprised, because JPP
Speaker 1: is a free agent, and I'm sure you re up that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you would either, because he's just
Speaker 1: it's not his fault. I don't know if it's I
Speaker 1: don't know what he wasn't the same player this year
Speaker 1: and I played his ass off. Oh yeah, I fought
Speaker 1: through a lot of ship that's sorr. But the end
Speaker 1: of the day, uh, you know, most improved as to
Speaker 1: me as someone who you don't really think about too often,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you notice his name,
Speaker 1: you're calling his name more, you're looking at you know,
Speaker 1: the stats, and his name pops up. So my guy
Speaker 1: was Anthonyson. His answer might be Cyril Grayson, but he
Speaker 1: just didn't get enough chance. Did Cyril Grayson really improve
Speaker 1: to the point where he could be a steady producer
Speaker 1: for you, like one of your two or three top receivers,
Speaker 1: or did he just have a couple of games? Well,
Speaker 1: I think if he does. I think if he didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't. You don't have that answer, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if he had quite enough body of work to
Speaker 1: be the answer here. The other one that I would
Speaker 1: say is Jordan Whitehead. But I wonder how much the improver,
Speaker 1: how much did I just notice more how good he was? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he was awfully good this year. He is terrific,
Speaker 1: which I can't say a whole lot because I have
Speaker 1: the next question coming. All right, we're getting through these
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Then the next one is most underrated player.
Speaker 1: Yes he Uh, he carried a big load this year. Um,
Speaker 1: interesting enough. Uh. I remember Randey Barber doing a film session.
Speaker 1: I guess it was against the Saints if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: and in the game against the Panthers, I think it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did. But he also had a big game against
Speaker 1: the Saints where, um, he was playing really fast, really hot,
Speaker 1: and he's a really hard hitter and as he said,
Speaker 1: for a small guy. As rand said, he's a small
Speaker 1: guy too, for a small guy making big plays and
Speaker 1: probably one of the fastest guys when you watch it
Speaker 1: on film, he's moving quicker faster than Yes, so he
Speaker 1: was my most underrated player. Um, this year, I had
Speaker 1: him on the list. Lavante is always in that category,
Speaker 1: of course, but I think we've talked about that a
Speaker 1: million times. Also a little bit. Jamal dean U, like
Speaker 1: every corner on the roster, he missed some time to injuries,
Speaker 1: but I thought he played really well. And there was
Speaker 1: a time he missed one game after he got a hurt.
Speaker 1: He heard his knee in in l a missed one
Speaker 1: game when he came back, like all our other corners
Speaker 1: were hurt and he was. It was him and we
Speaker 1: were playing him and guys like Pierre Desier, indeed Delaney
Speaker 1: and Richard Sherman, and and he was. I felt like
Speaker 1: he stepped up and was he took our Carlton's role
Speaker 1: as our most steady and dependable cornerback. I thought there
Speaker 1: was a stretch for a good part of the season
Speaker 1: where he was really, really dependable, and and the next
Speaker 1: time stats backed that up to you. By the way,
Speaker 1: he did have a real nice stretch of play. And
Speaker 1: I just remember in this but even in this last
Speaker 1: game when they had when I saw highlights of him,
Speaker 1: it just seemed like he was He's developed a very
Speaker 1: good style of playing physically without drawing a bunch of penalties.
Speaker 1: I think he's very good at that, and that's what
Speaker 1: coaches want that they don't want a guy like Carlton
Speaker 1: early in his career drew a lot of penalties because
Speaker 1: he has a very physical style player. But he has
Speaker 1: gradually learned how to play that way without drawing a
Speaker 1: bunch of penalties. I think Jimmy mel made that step,
Speaker 1: so he retained his very physical style of play, but
Speaker 1: he's doing it effectively without getting penalties. I just thought
Speaker 1: he was really good this year. Was I can't argue,
Speaker 1: which kind of gets me excited because you know, those
Speaker 1: guys are still gonna be on the team. Jamal Jordan's
Speaker 1: Jordan's a free agent, but they gotta they gotta get him.
Speaker 1: They can't let him go. Well, it's always the same thing,
Speaker 1: that's true. You just don't know if one team out
Speaker 1: there is gonna want to throw a bunch of money
Speaker 1: at him. So if you're listening, people for other teams
Speaker 1: were kidding, those guys were terrible. You don't want them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really needs to work on his game, has a
Speaker 1: lot of work, all right, Um that one. I think
Speaker 1: we've been in a lot of agreements so far. Let's
Speaker 1: see if we can find something we don't necessarily agree
Speaker 1: on here. What was your favorite game of the season.
Speaker 1: My favorite game was over the Cowboys, one because it
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys. Two because it was on the national stage.
Speaker 1: It was the first game of the season, and I
Speaker 1: thought the way they battled in that game to keep
Speaker 1: and you know, they didn't blow them out, but it
Speaker 1: was a good game. It made me feel good about
Speaker 1: the direction the season I thought was gonna go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely would not have picked that game because I
Speaker 1: didn't really think we needed to start the season with
Speaker 1: the game That scared me because we were losing by
Speaker 1: a point. Tom Brady had to make a last minute
Speaker 1: field goal, drapery and your kicker had to make the
Speaker 1: field goal. Now, that's my favorite game because it showed
Speaker 1: that we're never out of it. Yeah, well you could
Speaker 1: say that about a few other games this year. To um,
Speaker 1: I really remember thinking the Buffalo Bills game was very entertaining.
Speaker 1: That was my second choice because they won in overtime.
Speaker 1: Well they what was what was entertaining about it? Well?
Speaker 1: What made me feel good about that game in several
Speaker 1: different ways was first of all, Buffalo coming in. I thought,
Speaker 1: this is a formidable opponent. Yeah, this is a team,
Speaker 1: and you didn't think the Cowboys were going to be
Speaker 1: all that wasn't how good the Cowboys are gonna be?
Speaker 1: And we felt after the game, I felt they were
Speaker 1: pretty good, But the Bills was one I had circle
Speaker 1: my colendars. This is gonna be one of the toughest games.
Speaker 1: And then the Bucks were killing them. Yeah, they're killing them, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're playing what we believe to be a
Speaker 1: really good team and we're beating the pants off them
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, right, But then it became
Speaker 1: a whole new game because they had to come back.
Speaker 1: But then we wanted an overtime, which was thrilling, so
Speaker 1: it kind of had it all. I would also say
Speaker 1: that the Indian Applis game, well, that was a good
Speaker 1: game too. Back and forth in Indie to two teams
Speaker 1: have played very well, a lot of back and forth scoring.
Speaker 1: Letard for Nette was amazing and they and at that
Speaker 1: time the Colts were on a big role that they
Speaker 1: were playing really well. So and we did see that
Speaker 1: Buffalo did prove to be one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league. And you know, they came within yeah,
Speaker 1: one incredible drive by um Patrick Mahomes of being in
Speaker 1: the NFCFC Championship, so they could be they could easily
Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl right now. Okay, alright, alright?
Speaker 1: That was fun? Favorite player? What that was a hard one?
Speaker 1: That was a really really hard one. Your favorite play
Speaker 1: of this season. I had to think about it for
Speaker 1: a while and I came up with the play that
Speaker 1: gave me the most the most emotional high, It's got
Speaker 1: to be the serial Grayson cot. It was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was thirty three yards, fifteen seconds left, touchdown. Even
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady on your team, it was hard to
Speaker 1: see how we were going to win that game. With
Speaker 1: all the craziness of that game and how bad they
Speaker 1: look they being the Bucks. During that game, it just
Speaker 1: seemed like nothing was clicking. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: tour moral on the sidelines. Yeah, so there just wasn't.
Speaker 1: I just didn't think there was enough time. And even
Speaker 1: at the thirty three yard line, with the style of
Speaker 1: defense that we're playing, I'm thinking, okay, maybe he'll throw
Speaker 1: a ten yard out and we'll have like one crack
Speaker 1: at piasz On where everybody's standing in the end zone.
Speaker 1: And somehow the give Byron Leftwitch credit for the call,
Speaker 1: give Tom Brady credit for executing it, and somehow they
Speaker 1: got a play that got Cyril Grayson open inside the
Speaker 1: five yard line and he caught it. What was your
Speaker 1: favorite play that That's probably that one, um, because I
Speaker 1: love everything about that play. Because did you pick that play?
Speaker 1: I have two written down. Um, I loved everything about
Speaker 1: that one. Be because for some article I was writing,
Speaker 1: I decided to like really break it down and watch
Speaker 1: on next Gen Stats and you can watch you can
Speaker 1: watch the play over and over again, and you can
Speaker 1: watch um uh, you can watch like the xs and
Speaker 1: shirt move around and and you can have everything the diagram.
Speaker 1: You can see it all go. Yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: maybe that combined with I think maybe Ronde talked about
Speaker 1: that play in his film session. And so you see
Speaker 1: Cambray run like the ten yard out, which may have
Speaker 1: been what they were hoping to get, and Cyril Grayson
Speaker 1: does a clear out and you're hoping, Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to get we need to get a quick pass, but
Speaker 1: it has to be on sideline because we need to
Speaker 1: get out of bounds, out of timeouts. I don't want
Speaker 1: to run up and spike it and get off one
Speaker 1: quick place. So I'm guessing they expected can Break to
Speaker 1: be the target. But the but Brady gave him, gave
Speaker 1: the the corner a little kind of violent shoulder shake
Speaker 1: in Cam's direction, and the corner totally bit. And I'm
Speaker 1: at I think I've said this before. I'm not even
Speaker 1: say in the corner. I'm not saying he bit in
Speaker 1: a bad way, because he probably was supposed to go
Speaker 1: cover that guy. They don't want to give up that
Speaker 1: quick out to the sideline, so Tom Brady made him
Speaker 1: believe that's what he was throwing, and he's that corners
Speaker 1: breaking up just as CEO Grayson is running by him,
Speaker 1: and then Cyri's running over to like an open zone.
Speaker 1: He's not even running that fast compared to what he
Speaker 1: can run because he's just trying to find the open zone,
Speaker 1: and the safety realizes what's about to happen, but can't
Speaker 1: get there because that's one of those no but and
Speaker 1: that's exactly I remember watching the play. And I think
Speaker 1: you've already talked about this, so I'm sorry that's redundant,
Speaker 1: but I remember watching it from where we were. We
Speaker 1: had a we actually had a luxury so we were
Speaker 1: working for from the Jet Stadium and there's three or
Speaker 1: four of us in there, so we could react a
Speaker 1: little bit more than were chair. And you see him
Speaker 1: start to throw, and you you naturally look down and
Speaker 1: I yelled, oh he's got him. Like I didn't expect
Speaker 1: to look down and see a very open guy. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's got him. And then he caught the ball and
Speaker 1: we all just when you know it was like I said,
Speaker 1: it was the second one. Gotta be just about emotionally
Speaker 1: as great was the Brishard Perriman touched on catching overtime. Well,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. That was That was my
Speaker 1: second one, also because I was trying. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: I think I think the reason why I didn't pick
Speaker 1: that one is because Buffalo came back on us and
Speaker 1: then we won, and we're just talking about one player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but I went for what gave me the
Speaker 1: biggest emotional remember though, that was the third down. Yes,
Speaker 1: we were just hoping to convert the third down so
Speaker 1: we didn't have to punt the ball back to Buffalo
Speaker 1: in overtime. Probably at that point your best to go
Speaker 1: up for as the tie because and he made a
Speaker 1: great move and race and again Tom Brady helped lead
Speaker 1: players away with his eyes and and one of their
Speaker 1: players may have made a questionable choice to follow. I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was. Somebody was crossing the other way.
Speaker 1: I think maybe god one, because we still got one
Speaker 1: of them, and Perraman catches it and like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get the first down. Then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's breaking away from the guy like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he might go that was you can't say you weren't jumping.
Speaker 1: I know that was a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of a defensive play that
Speaker 1: could qualify here. They're a little harder to think of.
Speaker 1: We had two pick sixes by Mike Edwards in the
Speaker 1: first in the second game, but I think we win
Speaker 1: that game against Atlanta, even if he doesn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: see a defensive play that sealed the game. I don't.
Speaker 1: I know that's probably true, but um, I do have one.
Speaker 1: I did come up with one Jack Barrett's striped sack
Speaker 1: and Indie okay, because they had all the moment and
Speaker 1: they had a big like I don't remember what their
Speaker 1: lead was, but I think it was a couple of
Speaker 1: touch ons and they had the ball going in and
Speaker 1: Shack stripped it and it kind of changed the whole
Speaker 1: the whole moment of the game. Yeah. But when I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go with that, I'm I'm recalling that play, m
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think. I'm like, that was the problem.
Speaker 1: When I was thinking about this is defensively, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: what is it? And there wasn't one that just made
Speaker 1: me you know, you know how there are some games
Speaker 1: where you just know, you know what, that interception to
Speaker 1: seal the deal, so to speak, like um Or or
Speaker 1: a sack sack by Lavonte in the wild card game
Speaker 1: in Washington, Nat year, that kind of sealed that game.
Speaker 1: Did we not have anything like that? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't recall. That's why. So we beat Dallas, but that
Speaker 1: was a last minute drive. We beat Atlanta. Those Edwards
Speaker 1: pick six is helped, but I don't think I think
Speaker 1: the game was already patly won. Um we beat we
Speaker 1: lost the Rams. We beat New England. Yeah they really
Speaker 1: they got lined up for a field goal at the end. Yep,
Speaker 1: they did and they missed the field goal. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Miami was a blowout. Chicago was a blowout. Eagles were
Speaker 1: ahead and Eagles kind of came back. We we kind
Speaker 1: of sealed that game with a with a long drive
Speaker 1: to like the last six minutes. So you might be right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one, because if you have
Speaker 1: to think that hard, there isn't one. That's That's how
Speaker 1: I There was a whole lot of sacks that made
Speaker 1: a big difference in Carolina. But that's not just one play,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, next one your least favorite moment
Speaker 1: of the season. It sucks because I'm still thinking about it.
Speaker 1: The Cooper Cup catch. Cooper Cup catching to uh set
Speaker 1: up the winning field goal to end the season. That
Speaker 1: was pretty much the game, season ending place. So that's
Speaker 1: the obvious choice. I would also go with the Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin injury. I didn't that game was terrible and the
Speaker 1: the hit questionable. Do you see the hit and you go,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this doesn't Having ten times a game,
Speaker 1: Chris Gowen had no chance of escaping injury there because
Speaker 1: he catches and turns around and that guy is driving
Speaker 1: right into his knee. How can he not get hurt there?
Speaker 1: But then you're hoping it's not too bad, sure, and
Speaker 1: then you hear he is out for the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it just looked bad and it felt like worse.
Speaker 1: It felt like this is going to be really hard
Speaker 1: to overcome. Yep. You don't want to say you don't
Speaker 1: don't feel good about any player getting injured, and certainly
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady going down would have been cast trophic.
Speaker 1: But I just looked at that and like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how we're going to adjust to that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game was awful. We couldn't do anything, lost nine
Speaker 1: and nothing, and it makes you feel bad for Chris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you wonder if Chris was still in the game,
Speaker 1: how you know what the score would have been, because
Speaker 1: defensively they did play very well in that game. Yeah. Nothing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin um would have been helpful this last game
Speaker 1: as well. Uh sure, obviously, Yeah, but but yeah, I
Speaker 1: I would say that the two I think, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's least favorite. I would go with that, but I
Speaker 1: kind of stayed away from injuries. I just kind of again,
Speaker 1: I'm playing with the motion of of the swing of
Speaker 1: the game. So we lost to the Saints twice, the
Speaker 1: Rams twice twice. So who else beat us? Washington beat us,
Speaker 1: which was a very low moment. I can't think of
Speaker 1: the I don't know if they're gonna be the Washington
Speaker 1: football team or the Washington Commanders or what sounds like,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it sounds like Joe and they. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, Okay, that's kind of a weird
Speaker 1: mistake to make. All right, most impressive record broken by
Speaker 1: either a player or the team this year. I think
Speaker 1: that was a tough one because there were a number
Speaker 1: of individual records broken, but I went as a team.
Speaker 1: I think thirteen wins in the regular season, that's pretty strong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have it written down since it's the most we've
Speaker 1: ever had. It was made possible by a seventeenth game,
Speaker 1: but still, yeah, it's still a record, right and I
Speaker 1: and I took it because individually, I can see that.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of in that Kumbaya moment right now,
Speaker 1: that whole team effort and I and everybody gets a
Speaker 1: piece of that. It's not the offense, defense or special teams.
Speaker 1: Everybody somewhere played a part in that. So I go
Speaker 1: with thirteen wins. It's also pretty hard not to say
Speaker 1: forty three touchdown passes by Tom Brady. Yeah, there is that,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to need the NFL. I am trying
Speaker 1: not to think of the Tom Brady stuff. Now that
Speaker 1: he's retired, we're celebrating it. I am celebrating this time.
Speaker 1: I am moving forward. My favorite of all the Brady
Speaker 1: stats I've read or written in the last few days
Speaker 1: is that when he won the court, when he won
Speaker 1: his first Super Bowl, he was at the time he's
Speaker 1: not the case anymore. But at the time, he was
Speaker 1: the youngest quarterback starting quarterback after win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and he's now the oldest. And he went out when
Speaker 1: he won his last one, he was the oldest quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think the for youngest town belongs to Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: But that shows dominance of a career from beginning to end, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might, you might be onto something a lot of
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people get to be the youngest
Speaker 1: of something like Sean mc McVeigh at age thirty the
Speaker 1: youngest modern era head coaching higher, right, And uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know who the oldest one was. I know Brucerians
Speaker 1: is up there, Bruce is No, I think Bruce. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has a head coach. I think
Speaker 1: he is the oldest, but a few people get to
Speaker 1: be both. Sean McVeigh, there's a chance that he becomes
Speaker 1: the oldest head coach to like win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but probably not right that the youngest coach to win it. No,
Speaker 1: but he was the youngest. I'm just saying, I'm just
Speaker 1: what is the youngest coach to win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Was that? Um? Was that John Madden? Well? Maybe you
Speaker 1: can probably look up on your phone. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I think so. I think that was kind
Speaker 1: of John Madden's claimed to fame is he won at
Speaker 1: a very young age because he walked away. He walked
Speaker 1: away from the Raiders at forty two years old, and
Speaker 1: he was a coach for ten years. So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I uh, that's a good guess for sure.
Speaker 1: I think Gruden's probably pretty high on the list. Yeah
Speaker 1: he was forty two though, right, he was forty two
Speaker 1: that year. Um, I think John was just ire. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't throw that stuff out there. I opened Google and
Speaker 1: then searched on Google Yahoo instead of searching oldest quarterback
Speaker 1: ever to win the Super Bowl? Wait, wait, what's the question?
Speaker 1: The oldest coach, the oldest coach to win the Super
Speaker 1: bowldest coach are the youngest coach? Mike Tomlin age thirty
Speaker 1: six youngest coach, youngest coach to win Tomlin, So you
Speaker 1: did a good better googling job there than I did.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um how about that? Huh? I want to
Speaker 1: I bet you well, I can't remember. Uh. Is Bill Belichick?
Speaker 1: Bill Belichicks a couple of years older than you? Bruce,
Speaker 1: you just google the answer the other question, like two seconds.
Speaker 1: Why don't just google that one too? Oh well, because
Speaker 1: I was just you know, kind of trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to him, Bruce Arians. Yeah, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: He was what sixty came the oldest coach to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl at at sixty years old, and after
Speaker 1: forty five years of coaching across I mean he's been
Speaker 1: part of that. Yeah, so he's won super Bowls before,
Speaker 1: just not as the head coach. And this is badly worded,
Speaker 1: sure because it says after forty five years of coaching
Speaker 1: across college in the NFL, Arian's finally led his team
Speaker 1: to that Vincent Party. True, but only five six, like
Speaker 1: eight of those well in the in the NFL whereas
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah, so it's one super Bowl in like
Speaker 1: eight years as a head coach. If if you want
Speaker 1: to be in Arizona, two here, three here, nine, yeah,
Speaker 1: and most of one in India. If you go, for
Speaker 1: the oldest coach to be on a on a on
Speaker 1: a staff to win a Super Bowl has to be
Speaker 1: you know, he's eighty eighty years old. Eighty one, don't
Speaker 1: one strong? Alright, that's Okay, it's pretty good. So most
Speaker 1: impressive records. So do you want to answer this last
Speaker 1: one I wrote down? Or is it? Is it? Two
Speaker 1: goofy uh no? The last one that you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of self serving on our parts, but it's called
Speaker 1: best press box food, and we can't we can include
Speaker 1: Raymond James Stadium because they kill it every time. And
Speaker 1: when I say kill, I mean in a good way.
Speaker 1: If you've been to all the press boxes and then
Speaker 1: you come to up but you're usually pretty impressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Yeah, I had to um, I had
Speaker 1: I had to think about it. Wasn't it good? In Atlanta?
Speaker 1: That's that's my choice. And they have an ice cream
Speaker 1: machine if I remember correctly, there's no way you're saying
Speaker 1: that I have that written. I have. This is what
Speaker 1: I have. Atlanta Nice Variety had ice cream available the
Speaker 1: whole game with topping. I don't think I partook. Now
Speaker 1: they had they had plenty of other goods. But see
Speaker 1: I didn't take. I didn't take part in the ice cream.
Speaker 1: But they had like Eminem's and crunched up oreos and
Speaker 1: peanuts and I would go get a cop and yes,
Speaker 1: they was called nervous eating, but I never heard anybody
Speaker 1: doing that before. But then they also had a they
Speaker 1: have a nice salad. They did a nice sal They
Speaker 1: also had like a brisket or whatever that was already
Speaker 1: cut and because of COVID it was already packaged, but
Speaker 1: it was still warm, it was still tasty. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember all these and they had and they had um,
Speaker 1: some really good chicken sandwiches also, So yeah, they did
Speaker 1: a really nice job I could. Probably the worst was, uh,
Speaker 1: the Saints than the Super are the they're terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that um and yeah, they that was bad.
Speaker 1: Plus they didn't bring very much. No you had to
Speaker 1: deck fast or they were just out and he went
Speaker 1: up there go sorry, we don't have any more. And
Speaker 1: the best ones at halftime here have a cookie. That's
Speaker 1: That's just one of the many terrible things about going
Speaker 1: to play at the most interesting one was very Midwestern
Speaker 1: was the Colts where they had potato chips in a
Speaker 1: bowl and and dip in another bowl during COVID time.
Speaker 1: Just kind of but it typically but very very Midwestern America,
Speaker 1: American a way of doing it. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: now we'll finish our see what happens, and see what
Speaker 1: happens when I do my homework. Yeah, yeah, you bring
Speaker 1: a lot more to the show. There you go. Um.
Speaker 1: We will finish season with words from the fans, which
Speaker 1: is the most important. This is Mike in Connecticut. If
Speaker 1: they don't have words, we got nothing. Hey dogs. I
Speaker 1: guess it just wasn't in the cards this year. I
Speaker 1: hope we can pick it up next year, but I
Speaker 1: know we have a ton of free agent It's going
Speaker 1: to be tough onto the draft. Then. While I think
Speaker 1: we need some help in the secondary because tackling is
Speaker 1: clearly an issue, I don't know if we pick I
Speaker 1: enough to get some of the studs out there. So
Speaker 1: with that mine, because there are also other positions, I
Speaker 1: think we need to beef up. On full disclosure, I
Speaker 1: was raised in an Irish Catholic house, so I'm a
Speaker 1: Notre Dame homer to the core. I very much am not.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I've always rooted against Notre Dame. Sorry, Mike.
Speaker 1: Because of the draft order, I know we probably have
Speaker 1: no chance of Kyle Hamilton's which is true by seeing
Speaker 1: him going like a top five, which is weird. For safety,
Speaker 1: which is a shame because he and Antoine Winfield as
Speaker 1: our safeties would be unstoppable. There's another golden domera. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping Jason light has an eye on Kiran. I don't
Speaker 1: I didn't really follow Notre Dame this year. Look at
Speaker 1: the scores and he lost, so k y r e
Speaker 1: n So maybe that's Kyrine or Kieran. Williams is probably
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated running backs in the country.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen him, check it out. He's so
Speaker 1: shifting and powerful it's amazing. Catches out the backfield and
Speaker 1: pushes the pile like a mini Mike all start talk
Speaker 1: about thunder and lightning. If we added him to give
Speaker 1: Lenny a breather, maybe you guys can do some pre
Speaker 1: or post draft shows this year too and keep us updated.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a relaxing offseason and and
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the show again this year. I look forward
Speaker 1: to many more senior moments in the future. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if if you had the way he describes
Speaker 1: that running back and pairing him with um Lenny Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournetz feels more like thunder and thunder, not thunder and
Speaker 1: like right I always thinking that. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: do like he says, he's a mini Mike All, so
Speaker 1: maybe he's the lightning in this picture and Leonard fo
Speaker 1: the thunder. Um. I'm not usually much of a a
Speaker 1: proponent of drafting running backs in the first round, and
Speaker 1: I think this is also gonna come down to does
Speaker 1: Leonard for net return? If he does and you also
Speaker 1: have Keyshawn Vaughan, I don't think you're drafting a running
Speaker 1: back in the second round. You need something, yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a first round. It's possible,
Speaker 1: at least at the end of the first round. It
Speaker 1: feels a little bit better, Like Doug Martin for overall
Speaker 1: worked out pretty well. And don't forget we're picking what
Speaker 1: like seven points. Maybe it's okay, so that's really a
Speaker 1: high second round. I think we're gonna need some other
Speaker 1: play positions a little bit more, and we'll know that
Speaker 1: better after free agency. So in this case, it's very
Speaker 1: good for us to the draft is after free agency. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you don't know how many draft picks you're gonna have,
Speaker 1: because if you're trying to get something big, you gotta
Speaker 1: gotta trade him. Draft picks what do you think we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to draft quarterback? Okay, I think we I
Speaker 1: think we could possibly trade some future picks for a
Speaker 1: quarter something like that. Trade try to trade our picks
Speaker 1: trying to existing quarterback because if if the Rams end
Speaker 1: up winning, then that's going to be the new way
Speaker 1: of doing things. Well, especially if they did right after
Speaker 1: the Bucks woman Tom Brady. There you go. The Rams
Speaker 1: formula in the end ended up looking a lot like
Speaker 1: the Bucks for it and and the talented core bringing
Speaker 1: this the quarterback that puts it over the top, and
Speaker 1: then keep adding pieces along the way. Add a wide
Speaker 1: receiver somewhere during the season, sound from the familiar yet
Speaker 1: uh bring von Miller and everybody's thinking, he's done, he's toasting,
Speaker 1: he's at, he's at a terrific playoffs was great against Yeah,
Speaker 1: So um I the draft to me is just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a lot of hopes and dreams,
Speaker 1: and you know how many times you think, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be great and doesn't. Yeah, then you
Speaker 1: get a sixth round pick who plays for twenty two
Speaker 1: years and win seven Super Bowls, So you go figure
Speaker 1: it out. We haven't started our mock drafts. Yet we
Speaker 1: do that after the super Bowl. So I haven't read
Speaker 1: up too much on you yet. I've read a couple
Speaker 1: of mock drafts. Um, so I can't say that I'm
Speaker 1: um and I have the knowledge yet to be real
Speaker 1: good on this question, but maybe close to the draft sure, okay,
Speaker 1: next one? All right from Thank you for your questions
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening. Mark from Mace Arizona. I
Speaker 1: believe the beginning of this to be a riff on
Speaker 1: the fact that I have claimed truthfully that I can
Speaker 1: seeing a rap most of them. Uh dr dre, are
Speaker 1: you gonna bring it on? He starts by going bow wow,
Speaker 1: bow wow wow. Hipp eoga. Definitely in the house, you know,
Speaker 1: before you go any further. That's kind of my one
Speaker 1: big disappointment. I was really looking forward to seeing the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime show live. That would have been cool.
Speaker 1: I really was, and and and so I know I
Speaker 1: get to see it on TV, and I did have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl, But I
Speaker 1: just I've learned long ago that if your team's not
Speaker 1: in it, it's it's no fun. It's not as much fun.
Speaker 1: He used to do that more earlier in my career.
Speaker 1: I don't have any great desire to do it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I did too, I did so. First off, Scott, I
Speaker 1: completely agree that Sean Payton leaving the Saints is absolutely
Speaker 1: good news for the Bucks. And that was my first
Speaker 1: reaction to seeing the news as well. With significant unknown
Speaker 1: swirling around all three other teams, now the division should
Speaker 1: be ours to sweep. Problem is how good are we
Speaker 1: gonna be? Right? What's our quarterback solution now? And to
Speaker 1: be fair, I believe this. I believe this question came
Speaker 1: in before Tom Brady. Yeah, I made it clear he
Speaker 1: was retiring, which has been before Saturday. But see, this
Speaker 1: is the interesting part because like when you look at
Speaker 1: the schedules, you go, oh my gosh, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: playing a lot of playoff teams. And I get all
Speaker 1: of that, But then I say, hold up, everybody, because
Speaker 1: look at Cincinnati two years ago, they had what four
Speaker 1: wins if that last year they were struggling. Look like
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a new head coach and boom there
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl and they're playing really good. That's
Speaker 1: what I love about the NFL. You don't know who's
Speaker 1: going to be good or bad. I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the teams we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: One of them is Kansas City. I got a pretty
Speaker 1: good fee and they're gonna be good next year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of them is the Rams. They have beaten us
Speaker 1: multiple times in the last couple of years. Obviously for
Speaker 1: us now, but because Tom Brady retires, you feel like
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. I'm just saying, there's questions surrounding the Bucks
Speaker 1: now too. If the Buccaneers come up with a reasonably
Speaker 1: good solution at quarterback, then yeah, I think we're the
Speaker 1: clear favorites in the division because the Saints have not
Speaker 1: not only lost Sean Payton, they don't know what their
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is either. The Falcons just simply I didn't
Speaker 1: think they progress that much this year. No, and then
Speaker 1: you have the Panthers, who are Panthers? What are they?
Speaker 1: Who's their quarterback? So the Buccaneers, if we'd have had
Speaker 1: Tom Brady go into the next season with the you
Speaker 1: the only team that feels really good about their quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, is Atlanta still sold on Mitt Ryan? I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure. Um, I think that that's coming to
Speaker 1: an end pretty Yeah, maybe another year We'll have to
Speaker 1: wait and see because I don't know who their backup
Speaker 1: is going to be. So well, they need they need
Speaker 1: just sure you need to draft somebody. Yeah, and start
Speaker 1: preparing for the future. Yeahpefully hopefully familiar it all. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the NFC South seems to be doing that. So okay,
Speaker 1: so that's not even the question. Now for some question questions,
Speaker 1: I think Lightning round. Do you antic somebody putting out
Speaker 1: another current in the current series for the season? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I was hoping you would know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: Will Ray j ever get a partial roof like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have? No, No, that doesn't even make any sense. No,
Speaker 1: how would you even do that? Well, you'd have to
Speaker 1: put a canopy like you build it up over just yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Um, will the two thousand,
Speaker 1: twenty two Super Bowl rings be as cool as the
Speaker 1: bucks from last year? Trick? Question? That would be impossible. Um,
Speaker 1: they'll try something's try something? Where do you go after
Speaker 1: this twist? Off top of the all? I can say,
Speaker 1: if A, if it's sad Cincinnati, not so much. If
Speaker 1: it's if it's l A, it's gonna be big time.
Speaker 1: It might be bigger. Yeah, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: bigger you can get. But the jeweler is in l A.
Speaker 1: And so that could be you don't have to use
Speaker 1: the same jeweler. No, no, no, But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that the jeweler that that the Buccaneers used is in
Speaker 1: l A. And he's and that they're very, very creative
Speaker 1: if they choose to, if they choose JSON's, yes, Beverly Hill.
Speaker 1: And finally, what was your favorite moment from doing the
Speaker 1: podcast this past year? This one because we're done. My
Speaker 1: favorite movement moment, I mean generally my favorite moments on
Speaker 1: the podcast or when you say something that's not true
Speaker 1: and then I say that's not true and you continue
Speaker 1: to say they're true, and then I prove to you
Speaker 1: that it's not true. Mine is when I am true,
Speaker 1: and you're always shocked that I am when I when
Speaker 1: it is true. So I think my least here a
Speaker 1: moment was when you would not acknowledge that teams that
Speaker 1: we had played three games in fourteen days, not thirteen days.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, well that's like I was counting them on
Speaker 1: my fingers, I understand, which still irritates me. You think
Speaker 1: that way, I'll be quiet as always. Thanks for continuing
Speaker 1: to do what you gents do. See it beefs Mark
Speaker 1: from Arizona. PS. Don't forget to keep plugging for the
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs merchandise. I have a T shirt, sticker and
Speaker 1: beer couzy already picked up from my virtual shopping car
Speaker 1: Go Bucks. Thank you, Mark. I like that. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: This one, uh, this one from Phil squadron and in
Speaker 1: California is now sent us a question two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row. I think, hey, s Dogs for the wrap
Speaker 1: of of one. Rather than give you the greatest game
Speaker 1: or biggest play, I'm giving you the single greatest moment
Speaker 1: of the season. In his opinion, Mike Evans breaking Mike
Speaker 1: all stops total touchdown record. That's pretty strong. The eight
Speaker 1: train was maybe the greatest offensive player in Buck's history
Speaker 1: until number thirteen showed up. No one is more deserving
Speaker 1: of the record than Evans. I hope he puts the
Speaker 1: TV total out of reach for the next thirty years.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for a great season podcasts and for reading
Speaker 1: my emails. I can't are you I was great. I
Speaker 1: remember as we were leading up to that that I
Speaker 1: didn't think people were making a big enough deal, And
Speaker 1: I looked at every team and found out that unless
Speaker 1: Kamara did it too, or Um or the running back
Speaker 1: that they got back Um midway through the season, the
Speaker 1: Saints they used to play for them, I can't save
Speaker 1: his name right now, the Saints that used to play
Speaker 1: for them, the running back that they got back from
Speaker 1: Houston like midway through the season that played most of
Speaker 1: his career in New Orleans before leaving for like Baltimore,
Speaker 1: I think, and then ending up in Houston. Why can't
Speaker 1: I Yes, Mark, one of those two were close or
Speaker 1: both of them were close to potentially breaking the Saints
Speaker 1: all time touchdown record. But other than that, nobody in
Speaker 1: the league had a guy become their new all time
Speaker 1: touchdown leader, and it had The most recently had happened
Speaker 1: was Gronk with the Patriots in like two thousand, sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen. It just doesn't happen very often, and so
Speaker 1: it was I felt like it was a monumental. By
Speaker 1: the time we got there, I feel like everybody was
Speaker 1: on board, and they did a big announcement to stadium
Speaker 1: and it was pretty exciting. But for weeks leading up
Speaker 1: to them, like, hey, guys, this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: Let's make a big deal out of this. So anyway,
Speaker 1: good choice. I like it. What else? Uh? Thanks again
Speaker 1: for a great season podcasts and for reading my emails.
Speaker 1: You're welcome with you. Thank you for sending them in.
Speaker 1: Can't read them unless you take the first step, and
Speaker 1: we can't wrap up the season. Well, I'll do that.
Speaker 1: One last thing, kids, I'll tell you a second. This
Speaker 1: is the second to last question the dog and it's
Speaker 1: it's somebody who kind of took up my um I
Speaker 1: threw down the guardlet last week that we were going
Speaker 1: to do this and if you wanted to send in
Speaker 1: your choices Shore, you could have an input here. And
Speaker 1: this is from Sam in Nashville. Think if I remember
Speaker 1: collects and as they may be me now, every single
Speaker 1: one of the questions this week was by somebody we've
Speaker 1: read from before. Um Dogs, thanks for doing one more
Speaker 1: podcast before closing out the year. I have a couple
Speaker 1: of questions. First for Scott. Since you have been to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl covering the Bucks players a few times,
Speaker 1: do you have any good stories you can share? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, the only Pro Bowls, the only time
Speaker 1: I traveled far for a Pro Bowl was one time
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. I only got to go to one Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl in Hawaii. The others were here near here in Orlando,
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of a go up there
Speaker 1: and come back kind of thing. It wasn't anything particularly
Speaker 1: entertaining or groundbreaking about that. The truthful answer to the
Speaker 1: question is the time that I got to go to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, and I guess it would have been
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen in Hawaii. Was the stuff I
Speaker 1: got to do outside of working, Like I found we
Speaker 1: were on Oahu and um, so I had googles, googled
Speaker 1: um best body surfing beach because I liked the body surf.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to surf like on a surf board,
Speaker 1: and h they have a really good one there, and
Speaker 1: so I found it. And when I body surf before,
Speaker 1: it was like in the Atlantic, and that's fun. This
Speaker 1: is a whole news story. This is like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it is the opposite end of the stadium, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember. I can't remember the name of it. I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of very popular surfing beaches on
Speaker 1: the North Side, but no, I just wanted to body
Speaker 1: surf and I can't think of the name of it.
Speaker 1: Was a beautiful area. There was like these hills in
Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, like a little bit trying to think
Speaker 1: of what it is. It's not. It's very pretty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's everything's pretty there. So continue. It was just a
Speaker 1: ton of fun. I mean, I felt like I've been
Speaker 1: through a washing machine afterwards, and a few times I
Speaker 1: was like, I felt lucky that I didn't break my
Speaker 1: neck because I still did it and it was a
Speaker 1: ton of fun. You got tossed and turned. I didn't
Speaker 1: believe it. And then I'm watching guys who clearly know
Speaker 1: what they're doing, and they they have this form where
Speaker 1: they got this one arm stuck out like this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing, but you're having fun.
Speaker 1: It's all that matters asked for. Player wise, I don't
Speaker 1: really think I there was. There was really every big story. Now.
Speaker 1: I I went to the Pro Bowl a number of times.
Speaker 1: Um when when I was with a sports station, and
Speaker 1: the one was, I mean, unusually like stories breaking. The
Speaker 1: one was when Umman didn't show up. Well, no, this
Speaker 1: was when um Shula was released as offensive coordinator at
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I think it was um that all
Speaker 1: happening was kind of crazy and then the other big
Speaker 1: story was before Jon Gruden got hired. That night, um,
Speaker 1: all around the Pro Bowl people everybody was talking about
Speaker 1: how Steve Maruchi was going to become the next Bucketeer
Speaker 1: head coach. Pretty much everyone was going, yeah, I might
Speaker 1: boring you, okay, that that was going to be the
Speaker 1: next big story, and then of course, boom, it was
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden about No, it's like like three days later
Speaker 1: he was he was here, And because I remember I
Speaker 1: had just gotten back from Hawaii when they did the
Speaker 1: press conference, I like, of course everything was used to
Speaker 1: come a week after the Super Bowl, correct, which I liked,
Speaker 1: But it certainly it's just they have to take. We're
Speaker 1: glad that the Bucks have nine Pro Bowlers, but four
Speaker 1: of them were replacements because guys are in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So you end up with a whole lot of players
Speaker 1: called Pro Bowlers. Whatever. Okay, do you have any good
Speaker 1: now for both of you? If you could interview one
Speaker 1: player at the Pro Bowler that is not a Buck
Speaker 1: player this year, who would it be? Joe Burrow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he won't be there. He won't be there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with him last night, the way interview.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a Pro Bowl roster. Yeah, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really Russell Wilson, Maybe I'm pretty's not that
Speaker 1: great of an interview. Yeah, well, maybe you're not an
Speaker 1: interviewing properly. I think so everybody that's tried to interview
Speaker 1: him as a bad interviewer. But I'm the one who's
Speaker 1: gonna get you could be the guy that put him
Speaker 1: over the top. Anybody goes, wow, he's never that way.
Speaker 1: He never gives interesting you know, Wow, that was really good.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't really have a good answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't either. Maybe is Deebo Samuel gonna play in it?
Speaker 1: You know he's chosen. That's an interesting character right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, he's a wide receiver, running back. He's
Speaker 1: pretty amazing, phenomenal. He's a unicorn. Since this is more
Speaker 1: on this email, since is the award show, I have
Speaker 1: to say my awards are m VP Tom Brady. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we said non top Brady, but then he chose, which
Speaker 1: is the way they kind of do it in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They do an m v P, but they also do
Speaker 1: an Offensive Player of the Year, And since the m
Speaker 1: v P is almost always who everybody considers the best quarterback,
Speaker 1: it makes sense that that Offensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: would be the same guy. And then it happens occasionally,
Speaker 1: but most of the time writers used that Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year award to award somebody other than that,
Speaker 1: to spread it around a little bit into awards somebody
Speaker 1: other than the best quarterback. So right now, everybody pretty
Speaker 1: much feels m VP is gonna be Rogers or or Brady,
Speaker 1: and um now, they already voted for them. They vote
Speaker 1: for before the playoffs, So if it had been after
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I think Tom has a better chance. But
Speaker 1: given the the voting for the ap um AP quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Rogers got like thirty four votes and Brady got like sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's generally a pretty good, pretty good so um, Sam
Speaker 1: does the same thing here. He gives the MVP to
Speaker 1: Tim Brady, but gives the Offensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: award to Tristan Wharfs, which is one of your selections.
Speaker 1: So that's a good choice. Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: Leavante David, Yes, he missed quite a few games, but
Speaker 1: there's an obvious difference when David is playing and when
Speaker 1: he isn't. X factor of the year, Mike Edwards, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's a good one. That's a very good one.
Speaker 1: He did allow us to do some different things, Like
Speaker 1: I believe in the Philly game, we didn't have Sean
Speaker 1: Murphy bunting. Was it the Philly game? And Um Edwards
Speaker 1: played safety and Antoine Winfield played in the slot. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and then of course he's he's the ball hawk, right, unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. That's play of the year. Okay, now
Speaker 1: here was a good choice. We were trying to think
Speaker 1: of this is a really good pick, right, because we
Speaker 1: were trying to think of a defensive play that made
Speaker 1: a big difference. Antoine Winfield's interception in Indianapolis. Remember, that's
Speaker 1: a great choice. I think that's better than mine. It
Speaker 1: was the same game I choose the strip Sect game.
Speaker 1: That is it was such a great play and he
Speaker 1: was he was giving up like eight inches to that
Speaker 1: guy and he jumped over him around like his body
Speaker 1: and it was a big because if they score there,
Speaker 1: I mean it was really it was another big momentum shifter.
Speaker 1: Good choice, Sam, that one really good. Wow, thanks again
Speaker 1: for another great year. You both are the best. Thank you,
Speaker 1: saying excuse me. I definitely agree with the others that
Speaker 1: there that have said there should be some Salty Dogs merch.
Speaker 1: It's growing. Jeff, we're gonna have to do this by
Speaker 1: five shirts and shout. We could make two or three
Speaker 1: dollars a profit. It would be awesome if you pay
Speaker 1: the postage, We're good. Well, we need to get one
Speaker 1: of the designers or unless we want to use the
Speaker 1: logo that we use with the microphone. Yeah, skull things
Speaker 1: all right, um, last one, we have to finish off.
Speaker 1: We can't finish the season without another uh without some
Speaker 1: input from our friend in Brazil, Alexander Ahoi Salty Dogs
Speaker 1: gisell is coming home. I hope this finds you both well.
Speaker 1: As for our Bucks Salty Dogs season awards, I'd like
Speaker 1: to vote for Jamal Dean on the defensive side, as
Speaker 1: he really improved in last season. I did not know
Speaker 1: he was gonna say this one. I said the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's good and it proved to be a guy who
Speaker 1: can adapt once he played with others six other corners
Speaker 1: during the season. On offense, I'd like to vote for
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette as he provided a constant threat on the
Speaker 1: ground and through the air. Fine it sounds like a butt.
Speaker 1: No no he I guess I think he's just saying
Speaker 1: that's his pick and last, but not least, mr irrelevant
Speaker 1: as special teams player Grant Stewart. I like that one.
Speaker 1: He he really did, he flew around, he did, he did,
Speaker 1: and he looked like he really he really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Like this is the guy that knows his job is
Speaker 1: to play special teams and it's fine with that, and
Speaker 1: he's really excited about being here. So yes, and thank
Speaker 1: you guys again for this wonderful salty Bluck season. You
Speaker 1: guys rock. Thank you than our listeners are being awfully
Speaker 1: nice to yea ps can I get salty myself the first,
Speaker 1: and of course you can. The first and for now
Speaker 1: only Buck scheme my family and I attended was the
Speaker 1: final game of the two thousand nineteen season against the Falcons.
Speaker 1: I have lots of good memories from that day, Shack
Speaker 1: Bear breaking STAPs record a Buck's quarterback throwing for five
Speaker 1: thousand yards in a season, record of points and TVs
Speaker 1: in the season, and so much more since broken. But
Speaker 1: one thing I remember is that we lost no overtime
Speaker 1: because our kicker missed three field goals in regulation, and
Speaker 1: as an apology, I really expected Matt Gay, who was
Speaker 1: that kicker, to miss at least two more field goals
Speaker 1: last Sunday. You know, I was like, you owe it
Speaker 1: to us. Missed that kick. He missed one. He didn't
Speaker 1: miss one, but he didn't miss the one that mattered
Speaker 1: at the end. No, he did not. And so Alexander's
Speaker 1: a little salty because because he did, he the game
Speaker 1: he gets to see was a little bit ruined by
Speaker 1: Matt Gay missing three field goals, but really had a
Speaker 1: phenomenal year. So it's it's understandable why the Buccaneers did
Speaker 1: what they did at the beginning of twenty season. You know,
Speaker 1: they had drafted Matt May and Matt Gay in fifth
Speaker 1: round in two nineteen gave him the job. He was
Speaker 1: pretty big legs, that's for sure. He was pretty good,
Speaker 1: but slumped a little bit at the end of the
Speaker 1: year and then in training camp in with the Bucks
Speaker 1: having Super Bowl dreams, he just wasn't doing great in
Speaker 1: training camp and they and they decided they weren't going
Speaker 1: to leave it to uh. He said, We've done all
Speaker 1: of this, including bringing in Tom Brady. We've done all this.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna let an inconsistent kicker. We want someone
Speaker 1: who sees it bring it down. Now, Matt Gay could
Speaker 1: have gone on and had a great year, but they
Speaker 1: were concerned and they felt like they needed to do something,
Speaker 1: not just sit on their hands and then bury their
Speaker 1: heads and hope it worked out and it shows that
Speaker 1: Matt Gay is a good kick. And then a sucking
Speaker 1: got picked up that a way. No, it was a
Speaker 1: little bit. It wasn't right away. It was later in
Speaker 1: the season, but Ryan suck and it worked because Ryan
Speaker 1: suck Up came in and was fantastic to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl season, didn't miss a kick in the playoffs that year.
Speaker 1: In fact, the one he missed this past week past
Speaker 1: game was the first postseason kick he's ever missed. Field goal. Um,
Speaker 1: So it worked. It worked. It was completely understandable moment
Speaker 1: that said, you drafted this guy, Matt Gay because you
Speaker 1: thought he was good and it was gonna be a
Speaker 1: long term solution. And he proves it turns out that
Speaker 1: he is good and it's probably a long term solution
Speaker 1: for the Rams. He on the Pro Bowl. It's just
Speaker 1: a shame it didn't work out. I think the books
Speaker 1: made the right choice. It just didn't you go. Now
Speaker 1: you'd like to say, we have that guy. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yep, you got nothing left for the rest
Speaker 1: of this totally worn out. Well, travel safe to Vegas
Speaker 1: half thank you. I've never been before. I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned that little black jack for you. You'll be in
Speaker 1: good shady. I am allowed to do that, right, I
Speaker 1: can't bet on sport. You're not can go to a
Speaker 1: casino and play black jack, right, but which I've never done. Right,
Speaker 1: But you cannot go into a sports place. Say can't
Speaker 1: I go play the lag jack? Yeah, you can play,
Speaker 1: but you know I've never been in the best way
Speaker 1: to do it is take X amount of dollars that
Speaker 1: you're just gonna blow. You know who you're talking. Do
Speaker 1: you think I would not do it that way. I
Speaker 1: do not like gambling the money. I like you work
Speaker 1: too hard for you. I like a poker game with
Speaker 1: friends where everybody throws in twenties and then whoever wins
Speaker 1: gets that money. So the worst you're gonna be out
Speaker 1: of twenty and you get like three or four hours
Speaker 1: of entertainment and you might win two. Well, twenties not
Speaker 1: gonna take you very far in. Well, here's what you
Speaker 1: need to do. You need to you know, there's the
Speaker 1: Vegas Strip, which is very nice, and the hotel we
Speaker 1: are in is close. So what you want to do, though,
Speaker 1: is you want to go to Old Vegas where, which
Speaker 1: is old downtown Vegas and it's really very cool and
Speaker 1: it's different than the strip. It is because it's it's more.
Speaker 1: It's it's like Vegas was many many years ago. It's
Speaker 1: a little older. Um advantage well, because you might find
Speaker 1: a penny slot and for your twenty dollars you could
Speaker 1: be there and have a really good time machine boring,
Speaker 1: I've never been tended by a slot machine. All right,
Speaker 1: what are the denominations that you can play with that
Speaker 1: a jet at a table? What do you want to go?
Speaker 1: You probably? I mean is it like mo hand is
Speaker 1: five dollars or something? No, Well, if you can find
Speaker 1: a five dollar table, I'd be amazed. Usually usually it's
Speaker 1: like ten. Every single hand you play costs ten dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you lose a lot of money really quickly, there's
Speaker 1: a little card on the table that will tell you
Speaker 1: what the minimum is and so um and then and
Speaker 1: then you know you can go with you do you do,
Speaker 1: you throw your twenty down and they'll give you two
Speaker 1: chips and it's not even five minutes. They deal very
Speaker 1: very quickly. But it's fun, it's a good time and
Speaker 1: if you do it the right way. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was told by somebody that the dealers very helpful.
Speaker 1: That they're not. They don't care if you win. They're
Speaker 1: fine with you winning. They don't lose anybody personally. No, no, well,
Speaker 1: they want you to win because yeah, when you win,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean I've been at a blackjack
Speaker 1: table and when they've changed the dealer and I've lost
Speaker 1: that next hand, I'm gone. You know, you just brought
Speaker 1: me bad luck. And and I always asked that when
Speaker 1: you're coming back, you know, because there's a reason to
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