1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program as we do a 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday night thing John Harris, and I'm bringing you a 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: bunch of talk about a bunch of different things related 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: to your Houston Texans, the NFL, and beyond. Sometimes we 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: go beyond the blue lot, Johnny, how are you doing 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: this evening? Doing? Okay? Mark spent my afternoon in the 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: Indo Dantis chair getting a root canal. So I don't know, 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: is I try to think of what the equivalent would 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: be for one of us dealing with, you know, a 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: jaw issue or a root canal or whatever the case 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: might be. I guess that's kind of like maybe a 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: sprain MCL I'm trying to play through if I'm a player. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, But hopefully the numbness is starting to 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: wear off, so hopefully by second segment I will be 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: fully fully in it. Or I will walk in there 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: and take a bunch of painkillers that I have left 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: over from my back surgery back in November. Look, that 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: could make a show a lot better. You on a 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: bunch of pain killers, heavy medication. Why No, I don't 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: operate the machinery. Look, I think that in this business 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: when you speak on the radio. A lot coffee is 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: a performance enhancing drug, all right, cathe no doubt about that. 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: And look with my I've had throat issues over the 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: years due to reflux and other things. And that's like 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: playing and not pain so much. It's just I can't 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: cut on the knee the way I normally would. It's 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the athlete equivalent or the announcer equivalent of an athlete 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: injury that way. Anyway, we didn't get on there to 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: talk about that. I hope you feel okay, my friend. 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: A few things before we go anywhere. By the way, 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we got to this yesterday, but the 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: passing of Alex Gibbs, who spent some time here in 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: the Kubiak administration offensive line guru, and I'll never forget 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: the day, Johnny, that Gary Kubiak told me that Alex 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Gibbs wanted to come here because he was very excited 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: about it. He wasn't here right away in the Kubiak era, 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: but he got here and clearly transformed the way the 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: offensive line work was going. And Alex Gibbs was an 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: interesting guy. You knew the past, a history with the 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Broncos and everything else he had done in his career, 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Alex Gibbs was always the first guy on the bus. 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: He often took the staff bus to the plane for 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: road trips. He just wanted to be on that bus. 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: And he was just one of those guys with the 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: meeting starts at noon, He's there at eleven thirty. He's 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: just that kind of guy. You're that kind of guy too. 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a coaching thing, maybe, but Alex Gibbs 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: has done so many things in this league and he 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: passes away at the age of eighty. So I just 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: wanted to acknowledge that. Yeah, I'm glad you did. Mark. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I thought about that last night, and I don't think 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: how do I say this. I don't know that Alex 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: Gibbs will ever truly be appreciated for his greatness. When 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I think about offensive line coaches, guys that have done 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: it for you know, did it for decades, Guys you 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: could probably put in the Hall of Fame for just 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: being Hall of Fame offensive line coaches. It's Dante Scarnekia, 58 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: It's Alex Gibbs. Mike Munchek has been fantastic. I don't 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: know he's done it as long as those two guys did. 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: We know that James Campin has been excellent and we're 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: glad to have him here in Houston, But to me, 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: it's Dante Scarnekiah and it's Alex Gibbs and listening to 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: Alex Gibbs teach zone blocking and going back and watching 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: the Texans in that offensive line oh eight oh nine, 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: ten eleven and what they did and how they did it, 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: in the precision with which they did it. It was 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: amazing and Alex Gibbs was a major, major part of that. 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: And I think when the story is written about the 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: zone running game, if Alex Gibbs isn't the first name 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: that gets brought up, he's definitely going to be the 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: biggest chapter in that zone running game. And was amazing 72 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: to watch the Texans run it and run it so 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: well after it had been done so well in Denver, 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: and Alex Gibbs was a big part of both of them. 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: So lightp coach he was, you know, I had heard 76 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: he was kind of a surly sort, but didn't matter. 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: He was a great coach. Guys like playing for him 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: and he got the most out of him and he 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: was consistent with what he did and how he taught it. 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: And he taught it for years after he even retired, 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully his legacy will be carried on by some 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: of the great offensive live coaches in the league now. 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: But like I said, when the Zone Running Game, the 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: history of the Zone Running Game is written by somebody, 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Alex Gibbs is gonna have a pretty significant chapter for sure. Yeah, 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: and several Texans weighing in on social media, including former 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: center Chris Myers, on what Gibbs meant to them. All Right, 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: let's move on here, as this is the day after 89 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: the anniversary of Disco Demolition Night at Chmiskey Park in 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. I bring this up, John because, and 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, the idea that night at 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Kimiski Park, the old Chimiskey Park, was to just burn 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: and blow up a creative disco records because everyone's getting 94 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: sick of disco in the late seventies. It turned into 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: much more of an event than that, much more than 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, what could go wrong with fire and cheap 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: beer and you know, the South Side of Chicago. Whatever. 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: But it all happened in nineteen seventy nine. I bring 99 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: this up because it made me think disco today. You 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: know what, Look, nobody liked the disco duck disco, but 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: you put on the tramps and disco inferno and I 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: dare you not to tap your feet. And some of 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: that disco stuff was born out of soul, all right, 104 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: and the Beaties obviously made it hugely popular in the 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: suburbs at the time. Some of the greatest songwriters of 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: all time, but there were so many great soul artists 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: who turned to it. Now, some of it got kind 108 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: of like hokey and whatever, but some of it is actually, 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, decent stuff. I say this because what is 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: something that you didn't like at the time sports wise, 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: but now you look back and say, you know what, 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: that was actually pretty good, not as bad as I thought, 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: or actually like it now. Not saying that we love 114 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: disco now, but there's a nostalgia aspect to it, so 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to be you and that's it 116 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: could be something that maybe people didn't like or appreciate 117 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: at the time, but now they appreciate that athlete, that team, 118 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: that's sport, that event, whatever it is. Do you have 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: one for me? Yes, okay, I've got one. I definitely 120 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: have on a sports realm I've got it. One other 121 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: that's out of two. I got two right now in 122 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the sports realm okay, and then one that's out of it. 123 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: And you'll laugh when you hear that last one. All right, 124 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: we'll go back and forth. Then give me your first one. Okay, 125 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: so my first one, and you'll laugh at this. But 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I hated Larry Bird. Hated him, 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: hated him. Okay, slow, like he's ugly. He's always beating 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: up on my teams. I grew up. I was born 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: and raised at Wisconsin. I got here when I was eleven, 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: So I suffered through the Celtics beating the Bucks all 131 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: the time, and then suffered through the Celtics beating the 132 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Rockets in the in the Championship Series, the NBA Finals twice. 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: He's always beating my guys always. It was my freshman 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: year at Brown nineteen. It was the spring, so it 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety one and the Pistons were playing the 136 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: Celtics in in Detroit or Auburn Hills. And we went 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to a bar in downtown Providence and we're watching the 138 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: game and the bars packed, I mean packed, and we're 139 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: in there watching the Celtics just go toe to toe 140 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: with the defending back to back defending champs, right, and 141 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: it's it's a fatal complete. I mean the Celtics are 142 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they're too old. They just they don't have it. 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just watching the Celtics and Bird and I'm like, oh, 144 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: this is I mean, we're just we're chanting. Well, the 145 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: next spring was even better. I went to go see 146 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers nineteen ninety two, Portland Trailblazers and the 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Celtics in the garden double overtime. Bird had forty eight 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: and it was one of those vintage Larry Bird games 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: where you couldn't stop him, and I mean, he's on 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: his last he's on his last legs, and the Blazers 151 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: can't stop with dron Kersey Duckworth. They put Drexler on him, 152 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: they put Terry Porter in a double team. At times. 153 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Bird hit everything and I'm standing on my chair. I'm 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of kind of angled, kind of off the baseline, 155 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of down the sideline about ten rows back, so 156 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty close and I'm on my chair with the 157 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: rest of the people and I'm just chanting Larry, Larry, 158 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking five years earlier, I was like, I hate 159 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: this guy. But as time has gone on, I learned 160 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: to appreciate what he how he did it, how he 161 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: went about things, and what he was able to make 162 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: out of being one of the lesser athletes on the 163 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: court and yet as a basketball player he had every 164 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: skill imaginable. And I realized that I loved guys that 165 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: shared the ball, and for that reason, I just day 166 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: after day after day became such a big fan of 167 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: Larry Bird and I hate him Now I completely love him, 168 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: and I think he's I think he's fantastic. That's a 169 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: good one. That's kind of how I feel about Magic. Actually, 170 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, I didn't like him because I 171 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: rooted for the Celtics. Back of the day, Yeah, I 172 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: rooted for the Celtics except in the eighty six finals 173 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: when they played the Rockets, because I was kind of 174 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: sick of the Celtics at that juncture. So I guess 175 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: I was never really a true fan. And I wanted 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: a la Juan and Samson to beat the Celtics, but 177 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: they couldn't do a lost four too. But anyway, all right, 178 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: we're doing this because last night's anniversary of Disco Demolition 179 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: Night of Comiskey made me think of this things that 180 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: you used to not like or not appreciate, but you 181 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: do now. All right, I'm gonna be very careful with 182 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: this one, Johnny, but showing vander kidd a little bit 183 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: about the history of the NFL old Cowboys, I want 184 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: to be clear on this. It's just all right. It's 185 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: not like I love them or anything, but there's something 186 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: about I do appreciate Tom Landry, I appreciate Roger Staubach. 187 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I do appreciate those guys for what they meant to 188 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: the game, even as the villains, and those are the 189 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: guys that form the America's team thing back in the day. 190 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: But when you compare them to the obnoxious Cowboys of 191 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the nineties, the Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones, all that stuff 192 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: into what this into what their fan base has become, 193 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: not doing really anything worthy of what their past was 194 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: for the last quarter century, you start to appreciate what 195 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: those guys meant to the game, the contribution to the NFL. 196 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: They had a certain image, it was their thing. They 197 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: were the computer cowboys, the corporate cowboys. Landry and the 198 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: Fedora and the suit and everything, and there's just something 199 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: about them that you have to understand because the NFL 200 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: so many great characters back then, and they not that 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm even a fan now, but I'm a fan of 202 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: what they were because everybody plays a role in this drama, 203 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: and they played such a great role in this drama 204 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: in the seventies. So I think old Cowboys are one 205 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: of those things that I could appreciate now. Back then 206 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of hated them. Now you're like, hey, 207 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: they have their spot in history and that's pretty cool. 208 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did I phrase that okay as a text? Yes, 209 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: yes you did, because when you first said it, I'm like, 210 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how you're I don't know how you're 211 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: getting out of this one, but you did. You did 212 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: pretty well. Okay, Okay, this one. I know you'll chuckle 213 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: at this. But on Sunday, I sat here, I was 214 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: getting I wanted to go for a walk, and I 215 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: usually go for about a hour long walk, so sometimes 216 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: I just got to get up the the energy to 217 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: do it. And I'm sitting here and I can't get 218 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: off the couch because Huafa Euro twenty twenty now played 219 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one is going down to penalty kicks 220 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: and I am cheering like mad for the English national team. 221 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: They got a lot of my guys from Man City, 222 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Raheem Sterling john Stones had a lot of Phil Foden 223 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: who was not able to play, and penalty and penalty kicks, 224 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: and I think people are to know the story. But 225 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: the last three English players were stopped and the Italian 226 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: goalie was amazing. He stopped three, He stopped who run 227 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: him hit the post. It was incredible. So it's absolutely 228 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: imperative on the last because Italy is going first. So 229 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: it's imperative that Italy Georgino gets stopped and Jordan Pickford 230 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: stops his shot and Mark I jumped off the couch 231 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: and I went absolutely crazy. And then Soccer's shot gets 232 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: stopped by Donna Mura and I'm just like distraught. And 233 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: it hit me when you sent me the text of 234 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about, it hit me. I was 235 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: like soccer. I could not stand right. I could not 236 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: stand it. I mean even probably five years ago, I 237 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: wasn't even watching soccer. I would watch the US national team. 238 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: I watched World Cup, but I didn't know who guys were. 239 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: I might maybe know the top two guys. You're watching 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: two countries in a non World Cup and you care 241 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going nuts. And I know guys. I know 242 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: the guys on both sides. I know who they play 243 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: in their professional league. Or it is a complete total 244 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: one eighty. I love watching, especially European soccer, because I 245 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: definitely watch a Premier League. And when we went over 246 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and we got to see Fulham, now 247 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: Fulham was in the Championship, the level below where Ted 248 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: Lasso's Richmond team will be AFC Richmond will be in 249 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: season two, they'll be in the Championship. It's still there 250 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: was just a feel about English professional soccers so cool, 251 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: and I get it. I get it now, and five 252 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: years ago I'm like, man, you guys are a bunch 253 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: of idiot. Really you like what team you like? Arsenal? 254 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Who's Arsenal? Like? What's our? Man? Now, I'm just I'm 255 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: crazy for it. I can't get enough of it. And 256 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm watching I'm watching these tournament games and it's just 257 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: my boggling and I know my wife will get mad 258 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: at me. But on my drive out to Los Angeles, 259 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: I put my phone on YouTube TV and I watched 260 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: in air quotes Germany and England. On my way out there. 261 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: My wife calls me at some points and we talked 262 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: for about twenty twenty five minutes. It's Neil Neil, I 263 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: turn it back on. It's two Neil English taking he 264 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: scored twice. That was so mad at her. I was like, 265 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: you could have called later, But either way, soccer is definitely, 266 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: and in particular international soccer. I will watch any day 267 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: of the week. That it really really hit the other 268 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: day when I'm watching that Euro Championship and I'm like 269 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I and it was. It wasn't the Championship. I was 270 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: watching like the group games, the group level games. I 271 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: was loving those. They were fantastic. They're big, they're big. 272 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, we have Gold Cup coming up 273 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium in a couple of weeks, so people 274 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: want to take advantage of that, and hopefully it'll be 275 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Mexico playing and we've got to see some action with 276 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: the Mexican national team. L three. All right, we're doing 277 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: things that you didn't appreciate before, but you might appreciate now, 278 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: or maybe nobody appreciated it. In honor of the anniversary 279 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: of Disco Demolition Night last night, Kemiskey Park, nineteen seventy nine. 280 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: All right, I got another couple here, so I want 281 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: to get through him. Here's one. I think he's getting 282 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of play right now. I'll go to the 283 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: NBA here for a moment. Tracy McGrady, Tracy McGray, I'll 284 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: tell you, Tracy Mrady, James Harden. One of the great 285 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: players of our day. But for Rockets fans, not well 286 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: liked the way it ended, never got over the top. 287 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure someday he'll be more appreciated than he is 288 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: right now. But I think it's gotten a lot of 289 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: people to appreciate McGrady more, even though he didn't have 290 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: any playoff success at all here. Right, They went to 291 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: one second round series here while he was still on 292 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: the roster, but he was hurt. It was our test 293 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: and it was yeaw taking them to the second round. 294 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: They beat Portland in the first round, then they lost 295 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: to the Lakers in a round two. Yeah, got hurt. 296 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: We know the rest of the story. But McGrady was 297 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: so great in the regular season here, and he's a 298 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, and it's almost like since he didn't 299 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: do well in the playoffs. I'm not saying that exonerates him, 300 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: but you just look at the body of work regular 301 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: season wise, and it's phenomenal now. So it is hardened obviously, 302 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: But there was something about McGrady I don't know, and 303 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: I think that's he's much more appreciated now maybe than 304 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: he was then. Am I wrong about that? I just 305 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: feel a different kind of vibe for him these days 306 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: now that it ended badly with Harden and the Rockets 307 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: fan base. Yeah, I think you're dead on you. You 308 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: want to put another one in that category. This won't 309 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: even Californy to one of us, Okay, But I think 310 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: Shabby I think Matt Show fits in that. I had 311 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: him written down, Johnny, I had shob written now was 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: one of mine? No, because job I think is one 313 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: of those guys too. Where Look, it ended badly, we 314 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: all know the way it ended. But what he meant 315 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: to this organization and lifting them, lifting this offense from 316 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Nowhearesville to top four in the league three out of 317 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: four years. When they really got rolling with Kubiak and 318 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: Alex Gibs, who we discussed at the beginning of the segment. 319 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they were really going good for a while. 320 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Even when Rosenfels was in there, they were moving the 321 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: ball very well, but shob lifted the organization up to 322 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: another level and unfortunately could not finish the job. Twenty 323 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: eleven gets hurt. Twenty twelve they can't get home field 324 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: advantage when they had it right in the cross here, 325 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: so didn't end well. Twenty thirteen obviously a disaster, but 326 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: there were some good times offensively there for a while. 327 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: And I think he is more appreciated in some ways 328 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: now than he was there. And I think you just 329 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: said one well, and he might be at the top 330 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: of this list, because in twenty ten, this city I 331 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: was here, this city wanted to run Gary Kubiak out 332 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: like out six and ten can't play like out. Don't carry, 333 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: went to pious, don't carry. From Houston, don't carry. He 334 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: went to a m out move on, It's time, let's 335 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: go move on. And then two playoff seasons and two 336 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: AFC South Championships and then of course the bottom just 337 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: falls out in twenty thirteen in one of the weirdest ways. 338 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: I honestly don't think that Gary Kubiak was ever truly appreciated. 339 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I think now people look back and think man, Gary Kubiak, Wow, 340 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: look what and look he went to Denver, he won 341 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: a championship as a as a head coach. If you 342 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: saw the fifty three on him, you really truly understand 343 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: what that meant to win a championship as a head 344 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: coach for him, and that fifty three was fantastic. I mean, 345 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: Drew did great job going and seeing him, but the 346 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: guys putting that together, I know, Gavin was a big 347 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: part of kind of hooking everybody up and doing all that. 348 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: I think Gary, Gary Kubiak, he epitomizes this list. I mean, 349 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is disco night. I mean because fans were 350 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: just done and Gary was everything that's right about a 351 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: football coach. He was everything that's right about a football coach. 352 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: And I saw a pole and I can't remember how 353 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: this pole popped up. It popped up on my Twitter 354 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: feed and it it ranked, not ranked. It was a 355 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: poll of who is your favorite Texas coach? And it 356 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: included all interim coaches, So I think they were like 357 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: seven coaches maybe on this list. Kubiak was at eighty 358 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: seven percent. Yeah, eighty seven percent. I think people, not 359 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: just me, I think people truly appreciate what Gary has done. 360 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go to mine here. This is 361 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the non sports one. You'll laugh when you hear this. Okay, 362 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you know, my movie watching can kind 363 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: of be all over the place. I mean, I haven't 364 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: seen Scarface yet. There are a few others I haven't seen. 365 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: But when I saw Pulp Fiction for the first time, 366 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I watched it with my wife, That's my excuse. I 367 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: watched it with Paige and I just was like, I 368 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't know, I don't see it. 369 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: So then I started a few years after that. Many 370 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: years after that, I was doing radio with our buddy 371 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: Sean Pennergas He's my first on air partner, and he 372 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: kept talking about Pulp Fiction. I was like, one day, 373 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: I finally just kind of fought back and I was like, man, 374 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: you like that movie. I said, movie is just terrible. 375 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: It's I don't get it, and he goes, no, no, no no, 376 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: you got you gotta watch it again, you gotta watch 377 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: it again. And so I did. I watched it by myself, 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is one of the great 379 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: movies of all time. I mean, this is a Quentin 380 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Tarantino movie. That it's just fantastic. Pulp fiction falls into 381 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: this category for me, and I know it got a 382 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: lot of good reviews for people early on. I was 383 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: not one of them. But I went back and watched 384 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: it again and loved it, absolutely loved it. And it 385 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: it thought on me that there are certain movies that 386 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: you just have to watch with a certain group of 387 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: people that my wife the pulp fiction was not that right, 388 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: that's not a date movie. Especially, Look, it was groundbreaking stuff. 389 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm listening to a podcast. It takes me 390 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: like three days to listen to a podcast, but I'm 391 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: listening to one with Tarantino and Joe Rogan right now, 392 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: and he's talking about how groundbreaking that was and Reservoir 393 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Dogs was. Before that, I was similarly reacting to it 394 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: at the time, Johnny, and I feel that I'll give 395 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: you another one completely opposite end of the spectrum, though 396 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: that I didn't really like when I first saw it 397 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: in the theater because I was with a date. Dumb 398 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: and dummer. It's a I think it's very much a 399 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: guy movie. It is like if you're in the right 400 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: frame of mind, because I watched it now and I 401 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: crack up like a kid. It's like, it's so stupid, 402 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey in the car and holding his ears and 403 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: and you know when they when they do the rat 404 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: poisoned bit, and it's so stupid. But I die laughing 405 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: watching dumb And it's one of those movies. And again, 406 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: if you joined us late, it stays he didn't appreciate 407 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: when they came out mostly sports, but we're now doing entertainment. 408 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I'll do one more quick one. Pierce bros brosenin as 409 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: James Bond. The movies aren't very good. And I've said 410 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: this before. The scriptwriting when he was Bond was pretty 411 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: hokey and terrible. It really was. If you gave him 412 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: Daniel Craig's scripts, it would be a lot better. I 413 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: think he was underrated, and I appreciate him even more 414 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: now because I just I don't know. Sometimes I think 415 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: Craig isn't right for the job, and I wish Brosen 416 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: had these scripts, but now he's probably too old for it. Anyway. 417 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: That's a whole other subday for another day. All right, 418 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: that's that segment. You know what the next segment is, 419 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: Who's better? We do it on Tuesdays most often, and 420 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: it's coming up next here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. 421 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermaer, John Harris with you as We just had 422 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: fun with that last segment. Things that you didn't appreciate 423 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: at the time due to Disco Demolition Night in nineteen 424 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: seventy nine, the anniversary of which was last night, and 425 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: things that you appreciate more now that time passes, and 426 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: that could be a whole host of things. Boy, we 427 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: could do a whole show on food like that, food 428 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: that you didn't like back in the day, but you 429 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: love it. You know. When I moved here, Johnny, I 430 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: thought the Texas barbecue was okay. I was like, that's 431 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. Now I salivate for it. It's one of 432 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: those things, you know. It just wasn't a thing in 433 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: other places where I lived, and I didn't get it. 434 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: I was like, well, where's the salad? You know, where 435 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: the fries barbecue? And I know some barbecue restaurants serve fries, 436 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that because I still like to 437 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: break format and have French fries with barbecue. I really do. 438 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I love that and I love having a salad with 439 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: it too. But you're supposed to have Cole slag. You 440 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: know how it goes. You know what the script is 441 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: for Texas Barbecue. Anyway, let's get to who's better, because 442 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I think some of these could take a while, So 443 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: we got to just dig in right away. Who's better, Johnny, 444 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right to it. Green Bay quarterbacks Brett 445 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Farve or Aaron Rodgers. We still don't know what's up 446 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: with Rogers. Who's better Brett Farve or Rogers? And I 447 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: want you to think hard on the one because a 448 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: lot of people would automatically say, well, Rogers, look at 449 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: the talent. You know. You know how I feel about 450 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Rogers sometimes. I think sometimes people just salivate him over 451 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: rogers quarterbacking ability. But I recently saw a Brett far 452 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: retrospective and I thought, you know, he was so good 453 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: and influenced so many people. I think he's way more 454 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: of a folk hero than Rogers will ever be. Even 455 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: if Rogers win's the Super Bowl this year, farm has 456 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: won Super Bowl and a loss. Rogers has won Super Bowl, 457 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: Right one championship. Yeah, that's it. So who's better? Johnny? 458 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: To me, this comes down to the difference between a 459 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: shooter and a score. Okay, Rogers is a shooter farm 460 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: as a score interesting and that's because I think Brett 461 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: had so many guns slinging at tributes, everything. And a 462 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: gun slinger, I mean he had it. I mean he 463 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: had no fear, throw off his back foot, I mean, 464 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: flip it forward, I mean the things Brett was the 465 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: king of. No no, no, oh yeah, great play Brett. 466 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean he was the king of that. I want 467 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: Rogers because to me, Rogers is Steph Curry, Brett Farves, 468 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson. Alan Iverson was not maybe a guy that 469 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: was the best shooter, although he could shoot, but man, 470 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: he could score and you knew what you were getting 471 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: with Alan Iverson. But Steph Curry is a shooter. He's 472 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: a score two, but he's a shooter and it it 473 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where he is on the court, he is 474 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: going to find a way to hurt you. And I 475 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: having probably some coach in my background me and coach 476 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: his son, to mean he coach myself, I'm probably a 477 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: little bit more risk averse so far would have driven 478 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: me crazy, whereas Aaron Rodgers would have been an extension 479 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: of me on the field, the way that I feel 480 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: like Steph Curry would be the extension of me as 481 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: a coach on the court. You gotta win one game. 482 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm taking Rodgers. I'm taking Rogers because I got to 483 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: I've got to win the game. I can't. I can't 484 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: lose the game before I win it. And there were 485 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times in big games Brett through the 486 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Packers out of a game. Yeah, and in the playoffs 487 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Brett didn't often throw them back in a game. But 488 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: I've seen Aaron Rodgers in playoff games, the Cowboys in sixteen, 489 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons in eleven at the Falcons, I mean for 490 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: three quarters of the game against the Seahawks. I mean 491 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: I've seen him in playoff games play at a level 492 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: that like no other quarterbacks played at. To me, this 493 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: is easy. This is Rogers because I want to shoot 494 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: her at that point out a score. Now, I do 495 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: think there are times for scorers game gets gritty and 496 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: grimy y score and I think that's where Brett could 497 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: have carried you through. But I just feel like Rogers 498 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: was not going to give the game away. And listening 499 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: to him talk football, and I know Brett could too, 500 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: He's the son of a coach. I know Brett could too. 501 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: But you just get that Rogers is so advanced in 502 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: his understanding. Yes, yes, the game. And you know we 503 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: talked about this about the Flying Coach podcast, about Matt 504 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Flour talking about taking a time out. Rogers was like, dude, 505 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I got this thing. I'm good, 506 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: we had it. Here's what I was looking at. Here's 507 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing. He sees the game at a completely 508 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: different level. I'm going, Rodgers, I just feel like I 509 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: have to go Farve here. If I have to win 510 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: one game. I just feel like Farv's gonna win the 511 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: game for me. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. You're right, 512 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: he could lose the game. What did he say when 513 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: he was on that roundtable with Belichick and Brady and 514 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: rich Eysen and collins Worth for the NFL one hundred, 515 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: when Sherman had him in that game against the Rams 516 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: and the playoffs and he threw like four or five 517 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: picks already, and Sherman said, I'm gonna pull you, and 518 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Farve said, coach six is the record, leave me in. 519 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Let me have a shot at it. Think you love that? Okay? 520 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: All right? Who's better? Next one? Who's better? Better? Warm up? Band? Quarterback? 521 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: The guy before the guy, Steve de Berg or to 522 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: Rod Taylor. And I'm gonna base this on who's following. Now, 523 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: this is a loaded question. It's the burg all day long, 524 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: because yeah, of course it's he's with the forty nine 525 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: ers when they draft Montana, so he gets Montana ready. Yes, okay. 526 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: He's with the Broncos when they draft Alway, he gets 527 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Away ready. He's with the Buccaneers when they acquire Steve 528 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Steve Young, and he gets Young ready. That's pretty strong. 529 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: That's pretty strong. Now to Rod recent years Josh Allen, Okay, 530 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, right now, he wasn't wait a minute. 531 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Was he already out the door when they go? He 532 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: was in Cleveland by then, Alan, I can't so he 533 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: was already with Baker. Yeah, and then in twenty twenty 534 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: he was with Justin Herbert John. Who am I missing? 535 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: What's Who's another warm up band quarterback that I'm missing? 536 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because Fitzy you could say to Age, I 537 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: was gonna say, was the first one that came to mind, 538 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, but who is ready? Yeah? I 539 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: don't know that he ever really kind of prepared. He's 540 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: always you know what he's done, He's delayed franchise is development. 541 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: He's a he's a development delayer Buffalo, Tennessee. Here the Jets. 542 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Y's just good enough to hold off your development as 543 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: a franchise. Oh my gosh. And I love him so much, 544 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: if I could think of if I could, But he 545 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: didn't do a really good job. It just felt like 546 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: everywhere Mike glenn went, another guy was the next guy 547 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: stepped up. But it was like Mitchell Trubisky and Blake Bortles. 548 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: I think, I don't, I don't know, I mean didn't. 549 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: It didn't go well for Glennon. I'm trying to think 550 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: if there are any others. But there's the bird stands out. 551 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the historical one. I mean, for those 552 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, there's I mean, he's he is, without a doubt, 553 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: that guy. And I'm sure there's one that that we're forgetting. 554 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: Johnny Burgh has a lot of yards. He's got thirty 555 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: four thousand yards. He's got more yards than Tony Romo 556 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson and Andy Dalton and Phil Simms and 557 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Steve Young. De Burg has more yards than all those guys, 558 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Kurt Warner, Ken Anderson, Cam Newton, Mark Burnell 559 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: de Burg has more yards and he and it feels 560 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: like he's never started, but he has well. Kurt Warner, well, 561 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, you could say, was the warm up was 562 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: the warm up man for Mark Boulger. He was also 563 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the warm up man for Eli Manning, right, he was 564 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: also the warm up man for Matt Leiner. But then 565 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: that got flipped on, and then he stole the job. 566 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: And then he stole a job, and they do Fitzy 567 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: sort of does right, yeah, and yeah, you're right, and 568 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: then and then Warner ends up back in the super Bowl. 569 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna well, they've made the movie about him. I've 570 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: seen the trailer on the Kurt Warner film, by the way, 571 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and I like it. I think it's pretty good. A 572 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: lot of people teased them about the foot is looking 573 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: hokey or whatever. It looks fine. It's a great story 574 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: to tell. It's a great story to tell. Um. I 575 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: just hope that Zachary Levey can throw a little bit 576 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: better than some of the trailer shows. But is that 577 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of one. 578 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: You gotta come up with a better way to shoot 579 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: that that, you know, if the actor is good enough, 580 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: you've got to find a better way to shoot it, 581 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: like Bagger Vance, Matt dam and swing, you know, and 582 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Jim Caviezel is Bobby Jones doesn't quite look like what 583 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: you would expect Bobby Jones swing to look like. All right, 584 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: who's better next one? The Olympics are upon US Team 585 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: USA and basketball not doing so hot. But anyway, better 586 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: Olympics sport? Basketball or track and field? That's probably an 587 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: easy one too. Oh no, it's track and field. It's 588 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: track and field, isn't It's better Olympic sport to me? Look, 589 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: I know that basketball the Olympics. There's a lot of 590 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: history here. You know, we have the seventy two games 591 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: with that Doug Collins team that got robbed by the Soviets. 592 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: You've got the Dream Team in ninety two, you got 593 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: everything else in basketball. But track and field is track 594 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: and field history for days? And what other time do 595 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: you ever care about track and field? But the Olympics? 596 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: To me, basketball should barely be an Olympic sport. Again, 597 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: I know there's history, but I don't like it. That tennis, 598 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, tennis, golf, these should not be Olympics sports. 599 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Have the Olympic sports be sports where the Olympics is 600 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing in that sport. Now basketball, it shouldn't be. 601 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: The World Championship should mean a whole lot more of 602 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: the world guest basketball, but it just doesn't. It's the Olympics. However, 603 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: I'll go back to track and field being a superior sport. 604 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: I prefer the Winter Olympics sports myself, but track and 605 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: field probably superior. I'm sorry I stole your thunder. Go ahead, No. 606 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I love the speed events I always have. I mean 607 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: the one hundred meters, the build up for the hundred meters. 608 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: To watch you same bolt to watch, you know, Carl 609 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Lewis back in the day, you know, to watch Michael 610 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Johnson run the two hundred meters, And Michael Johnson had 611 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: seemingly some of the worst running form ever. But he 612 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: goes to Atlanta and runs a nineteen three to two 613 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: and the two hundred meters and it's like, who there's 614 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: something about and that's watching on television. I remember we 615 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: moved to Texas in nineteen eighty three and a couple 616 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: of my dad's coaching buddy said, Hey, we're gonna go 617 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: down to the state track meet, and I think it 618 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty four and he was from Dallas. I 619 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: want to say it was Dallas South Oak Cliff, maybe 620 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: Ben Dallas Card I can't remember. But there was a 621 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: there was a sprint by the name of Roy Martin 622 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: I think his name was. And I had come from Wisconsin. 623 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: I had not seen speed. And I'm watching this guy 624 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: run the two hundred meters and I'm like, oh my god. 625 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm in seventh grade and I'm like, I'm not running track. 626 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: But I'm like, Dad, I can't run like that guy does. 627 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: He looked at me and he goes, don't worry, so 628 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: nobody can. He goes, He's going to the Olympics. I 629 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: was like, really, and he did. I think he ended 630 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: up going to the Olympics. There. I mean Joe to 631 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Loch at base City, I mean the speed. It's just 632 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: incredible to watch fast people up close in person. I 633 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: can only imagine what that is like watching that event 634 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: while you're there watching in person, I could imagine. It's 635 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: just incredible. All right, Ny, we have one more segment here. 636 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: The All Star Game is upon us in Major League Baseball, 637 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: so improve the Pro Bowl for me. That's next. Among 638 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: other things here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vanderman, 639 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: John Harris with you. So great to have you listening. 640 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: And Johnny, the All Star Game is tonight. Now, I 641 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: got some ideas to the Pro Bowl. I would imagine 642 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: you do too, because whenever we have an all star 643 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: event in any sport, it makes me think of how 644 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: can you make the Pro Bowl better? In the NFL? 645 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: And I know that people could show me footage from 646 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: the eighties where the Pro Bowl was played with a 647 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: little more verve, perhaps Honolulu, than it is these days. 648 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: And I know we didn't have one last year because 649 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: of COVID. This year it's scheduled to be in Vegas. 650 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: What are you thinking here? Well, first off, put it 651 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: in Vegas. That was a good start. So I have 652 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: an alternative to the Pro Bowl. Okay, I've thought about 653 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: this one for a while, and actually somebody tweeted it 654 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, man, they stole 655 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: my idea. Take the two teams with the worst record 656 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: m and have them play and the winner gets the 657 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: number one pick, the loser gets the number two pick. 658 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is the best thing I've ever 659 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: heard of. That is so awesome. That's now, I mean, 660 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: people will make fun of some of the action or 661 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: lack name of or maybe, but look, the worst teams 662 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL still can play some football, and if 663 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: they're matched up with another worst team, you probably have 664 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good game. Along those lines, though, there's so 665 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: many different storylines that go with that. I mean, can 666 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: you even just take take this year, This year's game 667 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: would have been the Jags and the Jets. Sam Darnold 668 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: for the Jets is trying to get the number one pick, 669 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: so he's get the win, so his team get the 670 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: number one pick to take Trevor Lawrence to replace him. 671 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: There would be so many awesome storylines in a game 672 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: of that magnitude. But they play. But give them, give 673 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: them like a super give the players like a super 674 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: Bowl championship winning share, and those two play and the 675 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: winner gets the number one pick in the draft at 676 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: the top of each round winning that particular game. I 677 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: kind of like this, How about this, How about this? 678 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: You have you know the NBA as the play in tournament, right, 679 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: well whatever it is the play in games. Now you 680 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: have the sub playoffs. You have you have the bottom 681 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: four going at it in a final four. The sub playoffs. Right, 682 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: you do it on Monday night after the divisional round, 683 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: you play the four, you have a doubleheader, or maybe 684 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: you go Monday Tuesday, and then the following off week Sunday. 685 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: That's your number one pick championship game and you do 686 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: away with the Pro Bowl. Oh my gosh, I have chills. 687 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna work or not. That's 688 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: what you do, because that's that's what you Football is 689 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: a game of hitting. Right. If you can't hit, you 690 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: can't really play football. The Pro Bowl you're not gonna hit. 691 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: The last one I saw was the twenty nineteen Kapper, right, 692 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: and I just thought, you know what, some of this 693 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: is the way you need to play that. Some of 694 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: it was basically like a thud joint practice where you're 695 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: just wrapping the guy up. Blow the play debt, No, 696 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: don't take people to the ground. Everyone understands. And guess what. 697 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: You still get to see great catches and coverage and 698 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: that aspect of the game. Look, the blocking and pass 699 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: rush is never going to be the same, but at 700 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: least you see the ball in the air and some action. 701 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a win win. You do 702 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: get some action you do get enough to get a 703 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: taste of it, maybe a little bit of a TV rating. 704 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: The guys get to have some fun in Vegas or 705 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: wherever you're gonna have it. I really wish you would 706 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: go back to Honolulu, but they've got to fix up 707 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: a Loha Stadium, which is the biggest dump in the 708 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: world as far as stadiums go. Yeah, I don't even 709 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna go back to the Loha Stadium 710 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: ever that I think it's can am for for good. 711 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the University University of Hawaii is building a staateum. 712 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: They're actually they're playing this year on like a smaller 713 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: on campus stadium as they're building a new stadium that 714 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: won't be as big as Alha Stadium, but it's gonna 715 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: be a University of Hawaii only stadium. And I mean 716 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: the stadium is condemned. It's condemned. The other thing, the 717 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: only other way you're gonna get guys to really, like, 718 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: if you want to get the Pro Bowl back, you 719 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: gotta get like, yeah, I don't know, like an Elon 720 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: Musk or a Jeff Bezos to say I got one 721 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: hundred million for the winner. Oh yeah, I know. I know, 722 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if you're gonna I don't 723 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: even know if you're gonna get to that. You know, 724 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: put up up at one hundred million. But I think, 725 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: I think what you do with the Pro Bowl, Vegas, La, Orlando, 726 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: Miami rotated those four places. You rotate it, um, honestly, 727 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: just me. You put the super Bowl, you should put 728 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in three or four locations, and then 729 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: you rotate them such that each year the Pro Bowl, 730 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: one of the Pro Bowls in one of those four cities, 731 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls in one of those four cities. I 732 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: don't like Orlando, though, I don't think Orlando. No, I 733 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: don't love Orlando. But if we got Miami good, you 734 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: can well, yeah, you could go Miami, Las Vegas, La done. Yeah. 735 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: And your super Bowl idea, I get it, and I'm 736 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: actually for it. If I'm gonna go to the Super 737 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: Bowl every year because I want to have good weather, 738 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: but I get it. But somebody builds a stadium they 739 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: want it, So Vegas is gonna get there, as La 740 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: obviously already has that. And anybody else coming up with 741 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: a new stadium here that I haven't thought of lately, 742 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody's considered. Oh well, you're not gonna put the game 743 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. That's gonna put that, that's gonna put that 744 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: to the test, unless they make some sort of retractable 745 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: dome or whatever. But you need I know, Buffalo has 746 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: been in talks about having a new stadium, so to 747 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the Pagoulas do. But there 748 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: is some talk about that a new stadium up in Buffalo, 749 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: and we'll see. But yeah, it's you know, the interesting aspect. 750 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: The game's gonna be in Las Vegas, and now the 751 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: Raiders are there, the Nights are there, and now it 752 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: looks like potentially the Oakland A's might end up going 753 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. Las Vegas is becoming a three sport 754 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: couldn't be a three sport professional town when you wouldn't 755 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: even sniff it ten twelve years ago you wouldn't. And 756 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: the A's that they moved it better be an indoor facility, 757 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. It gets a little form 758 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: there in the summer. Johnny, thanks a lot. You gotta Mark, 759 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: thank you join us tomorrow. Another program coming away. John 760 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: McClain on Thursday, As we roll toward camp in a 761 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks here, thanks for listening, have a great night, 762 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 1: and go tech Sans