Speaker 1: Wine Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of Wine Down Friend. We've
Speaker 1: really been together a lot, we really have. I needed it.
Speaker 1: I did too. We went we had wine Down Podcast
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, San Diego. We really were speed dating
Speaker 1: the West coast, or like, this is my favorite restaurant
Speaker 1: in l A. Let's go here. We can get to
Speaker 1: the beach in thirty minutes. In San Diego, let's go
Speaker 1: do it where the last in Michigan we could be
Speaker 1: in that moment. It was great. And then I loved
Speaker 1: our experience on the beach too, just like taking that
Speaker 1: minute to just really soak it in and everything. Um,
Speaker 1: but I have I have cheese grapes, and I wish
Speaker 1: can I describe what's in front of you? Okay, so
Speaker 1: on the sweetest little cocktail, big tea play. I need
Speaker 1: to really frame it. It is a big It isn't Dixie,
Speaker 1: there is I'll start with this, I think what I
Speaker 1: believe to be a wheat, then a few of those
Speaker 1: some red grapes, and my favorite part, it just really
Speaker 1: feels like you care about me. It is some sort
Speaker 1: of cheese cube. Several we're not going to get crazy.
Speaker 1: We each could have two and a half cheese cubes
Speaker 1: and they each have a toothpick. Is not to cross contaminate.
Speaker 1: And it all just matters a lot to me. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what this means. But I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what you doing up here? We're having a little Sam's
Speaker 1: Club sampler on a Saturday. What's going on trying my cheese?
Speaker 1: It's great? Uh No, I just got back from therapy
Speaker 1: and I walked into this platter of and let me
Speaker 1: just set the stage too. Is this gonna happen for
Speaker 1: me tomorrow? I don't know. If it does, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be like that was for me. Um. But I it's
Speaker 1: been like a crazy you know, with Thanksgiving and the
Speaker 1: birthdays and um and filming the Chicago fire stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just been a lot of UM. I've just been like
Speaker 1: on the go so much. And I told Amy, you
Speaker 1: know a few things our therapist and just was like, oh, girl,
Speaker 1: like there's just so much going on. And and so
Speaker 1: I walk in and mind you, right before I go
Speaker 1: to therapy, I had I worked out, but I didn't
Speaker 1: have time to eat right, So I just through a
Speaker 1: prute protein shake in the car because I was just
Speaker 1: rushing from one thing to the next, right, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, God, I'm starving, Like I should have grabbed
Speaker 1: a protein bar or something. I love that the other
Speaker 1: option is to chew the protein and so of drink
Speaker 1: the protein. If anyone's wondering what a Janet Cramer action
Speaker 1: figure looks like. The protein bar is not sold separate, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm getting off of those, not like I'm trying to eat,
Speaker 1: you know, just like the real foods, really cold cold drinking.
Speaker 1: And so I was just thinking, like I'm starving, and
Speaker 1: I walk in and Amy has this like beautiful plate
Speaker 1: of I ate all the strawberries, which is why this
Speaker 1: robberies aren't on there just like here it takes them
Speaker 1: to go. And I was like, what is this? And
Speaker 1: she goes, when you sent me that email that it's
Speaker 1: just it's been a really crazy season and some of
Speaker 1: the things that we discussed over the phone over Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: because I just had a few you know, when you
Speaker 1: just have those sessions like I need to talk to
Speaker 1: you like right now, ya um, like processing a few things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, She's like, I just think that you
Speaker 1: forget to sit and nourish and also celebrate you too.
Speaker 1: And she's like, so this we're having a little party
Speaker 1: and I want you to sit here and like eat,
Speaker 1: you know, share what we have to share and work there.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, I was like, you have
Speaker 1: no idea, Like I started crying. I was just like
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry and like, hey, I'm with this beautiful
Speaker 1: spread and she's so it was really sweet and then yeah,
Speaker 1: we threw a party because something that I had told
Speaker 1: her about, um you know, uh you know, my birthday
Speaker 1: and um the holidays, and she was just like you're who.
Speaker 1: She's like, We've had seventy sessions since I've known you,
Speaker 1: and she's like this is the this is the like
Speaker 1: the most proud I've ever been, Like, this is the
Speaker 1: you're like you've come to you know. And it was
Speaker 1: just like really, I was like, but I feel that,
Speaker 1: Like I even texted you something after wind down because
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just really proud of you, I know,
Speaker 1: and we're not good at like accepting that it's like
Speaker 1: weird for our type or something. But I just thought back.
Speaker 1: I was like I sat back and I was like
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I'm like, not only did you well
Speaker 1: first of all, you flew home in a whirlwind, like
Speaker 1: after wind down. I think you had like literally sixty
Speaker 1: three minutes in your house to like king back, yeah,
Speaker 1: and get right back to the airport with the kids,
Speaker 1: to drop the kids off in Michigan so then you
Speaker 1: could fly to Chicago because you wanted them to be
Speaker 1: cozy and tucked in. I mean, that's just like it's
Speaker 1: so much and you're doing it alone. I think people
Speaker 1: assume sometimes you have like full time nanny or Katherine's
Speaker 1: with you all the time. But Catherine has three kids
Speaker 1: and a husband, a husband she's choosing to keep, so
Speaker 1: like now she's busy having sex in her vest life.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I just had that moment when I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it was the night your movie came out.
Speaker 1: I was flying home with two kids, all right, RSB,
Speaker 1: who's living the best life? And I kept thinking, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't spread it on the plane for those of
Speaker 1: you haters, um, but I just kept thinking, I was like,
Speaker 1: here you are, like you just don't want to get
Speaker 1: a breath, to chew anything more than a protein bar,
Speaker 1: but also to even celebrate the winds and the hard work. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. What it's crazy. I was talking to
Speaker 1: her too, and I said, um uh, I was saying,
Speaker 1: last year, I kept a toxic relationship around because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be alone for the holidays. In this year, like,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be alone for the holidays and
Speaker 1: not have someone. So today my girlfriend was like, do
Speaker 1: you want to come to Jamaica and January? And I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I want to go to a beach
Speaker 1: by myself. Like not envious of the single part I have.
Speaker 1: I have a cute little family. I just I just
Speaker 1: missed the quiet. Yeah, and I think that's like what
Speaker 1: we were explaining. What I was kind of telling her today.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I'm I know one day
Speaker 1: I'm going to find my one and I'm going to
Speaker 1: host all the in laws. Yeah, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: for that day. But but I don't need to rush
Speaker 1: to get there. And like I'm actually like from kind
Speaker 1: of the nothing last year. Last year's served its purpose
Speaker 1: and and I needed that. Maybe you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be alone, but like this year, it's like
Speaker 1: I I look forward to really getting to know myself
Speaker 1: in those moments and spending time alone and yeah, embracing
Speaker 1: it and just not being sad about the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm not like in love in the holidays or I
Speaker 1: have a boyfriend, like I'm enjoying just like really truly
Speaker 1: just being in love with yourself. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of
Speaker 1: being in love though, UM, we are going to take
Speaker 1: a break and we're going to get on these three
Speaker 1: beautiful women who are starring in a TV show. Um
Speaker 1: it is called, uh well, it's called Back in the
Speaker 1: Groove and it's kind of like a plan still out
Speaker 1: a groove back Um. It premiers um on Hulu. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Sparkle, Brook and stuff on in a second. Everybody, Hi, ladies.
Speaker 1: Three out of three we have Brooke, Sparkle and stuff
Speaker 1: um who are on the Hulu show Back in the Groove,
Speaker 1: and I, um, I have we have. Me and Christen
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions, um, because when I was
Speaker 1: reading the breakdown, I was like, oh, these women are
Speaker 1: They're beautiful, but and then I saw dating I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go date half their age, and I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have so many questions because I remember I have
Speaker 1: a few younger stories of dating younger. One was great
Speaker 1: and one was tragic. So I'm just curious, like, have
Speaker 1: you guys dated someone younger than you prior to doing
Speaker 1: the show? I have. I have a couple, maybe like
Speaker 1: three relationships that were younger and someone was good. We
Speaker 1: were together for about four years. I just didn't end
Speaker 1: up you know, going into marriage or whatnot. Um, there
Speaker 1: was a bit of a you know, emotional immaturity there.
Speaker 1: We weren't on the same page after you know, three
Speaker 1: or four years. So that was that. And then the
Speaker 1: other one, UM was very tragic. It was very dysfunctional,
Speaker 1: very toxic. Um. So yeah, you know, I've never I
Speaker 1: wasn't always into younger guys or you know, when I
Speaker 1: was in my twenties thirties, I always dated my age,
Speaker 1: but as I got older, younger men kind of were
Speaker 1: always approaching me. So I was just like, okay, why not.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I mean they bring like a you
Speaker 1: know vibe, you know, a vibrant energy and their fun um.
Speaker 1: But they typically bring abs as well, which is nice. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a personal trainer, so it's you know important for
Speaker 1: me to have like to be with a guy who's
Speaker 1: taking care of himself and whatnot, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: never hurts, so but yes, it depends on the man.
Speaker 1: It depends on their life experience. But yeah, I've had
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. So here's a question, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you all don't feel like sharing it,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But you look so young to me that, like,
Speaker 1: to me, half your age would be about twelve. So
Speaker 1: I'm confused what are we we're dealing with here because
Speaker 1: you all look so young and beautiful? Well thank you?
Speaker 1: Um yeah, not half my age, definitely not. You guys
Speaker 1: are in your forties, right, I'm forty three now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because when I was reading, I was like, all right, like,
Speaker 1: you know, forties, and I'm like, have you been married?
Speaker 1: Have you guys all been married before? Or or no?
Speaker 1: I have Okay, how long were you married? For? Staff?
Speaker 1: For like two weeks? Amazing? Same kind one of those.
Speaker 1: We were in a situation we were really really young.
Speaker 1: I married my son's dad, and you know, I just
Speaker 1: it was just kind of one of those things where
Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, well, we're young, we
Speaker 1: don't really want to do this, but my mom was like, no,
Speaker 1: you have to. You know, you have kids now, and
Speaker 1: this is you know what it is. So we got
Speaker 1: married and after we got married, we just realized that
Speaker 1: we weren't getting along. So, you know, it was just
Speaker 1: one of those things where we didn't want to, um,
Speaker 1: you know, raise children in a household where they didn't
Speaker 1: see their parents, um, loving on each other and showing
Speaker 1: each other love and you know, growing up in a
Speaker 1: really happy home, you know, versus you know, raising kids
Speaker 1: in an environment where you're constantly arguing and you're fighting
Speaker 1: and there's always something going on. So I was mainteened.
Speaker 1: So it was just one of those things where I
Speaker 1: should have been reading books as a most playing house,
Speaker 1: you know. But you know we did that. We you know,
Speaker 1: as far as with dating younger, I've only done three years.
Speaker 1: So this has been a whole brand new experience for
Speaker 1: me totally. So we're trying nineteen over again. That was happening.
Speaker 1: It was just I don't know, things just about it buzzing.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's just try something new, you know,
Speaker 1: why not. I think there's something to where um, you know,
Speaker 1: now that I'm single and you know, divorced now at
Speaker 1: almost a year and a half or more than that,
Speaker 1: but the younger guys, there is something to be said
Speaker 1: that they definitely again, I'm I'm gonna be forty next year.
Speaker 1: They they really do make you feel like a queen.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm um. I I just don't think I would be.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just thinking about now. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think there's that piece of um. It's I've rarely
Speaker 1: found someone under, you know, Like I've kind of sat
Speaker 1: like I don't want to go below thirty five because
Speaker 1: when when it ducks into that like thirty, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just so much. It's like I'm a mom and
Speaker 1: it's like are they you know, are they secure, confident?
Speaker 1: Um mature? It's like you'd have to find I would
Speaker 1: have to find a very old young for it for
Speaker 1: me personally, because I'm like, I don't have I don't
Speaker 1: want just an f buddy, right, So it's like do
Speaker 1: you do when you guys wanted to this, Like did
Speaker 1: you Are you looking at it from like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find my one or is like I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be fun because I think I think there's a season
Speaker 1: for both right where it's like, yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Like my girlfriend just slept with like a really young
Speaker 1: dude whatever, and she's like whatever, this is a fun
Speaker 1: piece time in my life and like who cares? But like,
Speaker 1: or are you actually going on thinking? Like okay, like
Speaker 1: I could actually find my one among these younger guys.
Speaker 1: I went out there just to have a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just I didn't. I was just
Speaker 1: really open to like the possibility of you know, maybe
Speaker 1: meeting someone who is so amazing that changes my mind
Speaker 1: and makes me think, you know what, maybe I can
Speaker 1: give this a shot. But you know, I had like
Speaker 1: a really rough year, you know, with the cancer and
Speaker 1: then my surgery and stuff. So I wasn't really like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to have fun and whatever
Speaker 1: fun meant, whatever fund meant, or whoever fun with meant,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, That's what I wanted to do. And
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I sparkle, what about what about you? Ben? Well?
Speaker 1: I also went to I'm gonna type of person. I'll
Speaker 1: try anything once. And I David someone a few years younger,
Speaker 1: not significantly younger. UM. I have always, um wonder what
Speaker 1: it would like, wonder what it'd be like to date,
Speaker 1: you know, with an age gap. I have even really
Speaker 1: dating me abouty much older, except one time that was
Speaker 1: a horror story. So I was anxious, you know, to
Speaker 1: meet somebody younger and just to see because I don't,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like age is just a number.
Speaker 1: I want to have fun as well. I've been married.
Speaker 1: I got married at a high school when I had
Speaker 1: a baby two years after that, and then I was
Speaker 1: running my business for twenty years, so I was kind
Speaker 1: of ready to let go of being so serious. I'm
Speaker 1: just to see what else was out there. So I
Speaker 1: also went to have fun. So I married. My first
Speaker 1: husband was five years younger than me, and it was
Speaker 1: really great for the first few years, I think, just
Speaker 1: like the passion and the craziness, and then there was
Speaker 1: this I feel like a period of time where I
Speaker 1: super sped up and he kind of stayed the same,
Speaker 1: and I became kind of mother like is that a
Speaker 1: fear that you have or something you've experienced before, Like,
Speaker 1: because it is a tendency in just women in general
Speaker 1: to be so nurturing that we can kind of take
Speaker 1: this like a weird rule over and become mother like
Speaker 1: to these younger guys. I think that's why my relationships
Speaker 1: didn't work out, because there was this stagnicity of growth
Speaker 1: um and I was became resentful and I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: lost some respect for him, and so yeah, there's definitely that, UM,
Speaker 1: but I think that can happen and with any relationship
Speaker 1: really matter how old the guy is, um. There you
Speaker 1: have to really be on the same page with someone.
Speaker 1: And you know, a relationship lasts only if you guys
Speaker 1: are on that same path and continuously growing. So UM,
Speaker 1: trust me, I've had I know, a lot of marriages,
Speaker 1: you know, friends that you know, relationships have stopped, um
Speaker 1: and ended because of those same issues and they're the
Speaker 1: same age or you know, they're older than my problems.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just, you know, it really depends
Speaker 1: on the person and their willingness to work and do
Speaker 1: the work and be committed to the relationship and love
Speaker 1: each other. And but yeah, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I am taking a step back, Like I came into
Speaker 1: this experience and went on the island and had this
Speaker 1: you know, wanted to have this amazing experience. But you know,
Speaker 1: of course with the younger men, but I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to find my person. I've never been married. I've been
Speaker 1: engaged in my twenties and have gone through you know,
Speaker 1: long term relationships and I just have never found the
Speaker 1: one that you know as my life partner. So regardless
Speaker 1: of they were, if I was going on the island
Speaker 1: to meet younger guys or my age or whatever, I'm
Speaker 1: still looking for my person even to this day. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still looking for my person no matter what.
Speaker 1: So spoiler alert, you don't end up with the person,
Speaker 1: then on the show, you'll have to see you. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. But I think, like the staff, it goes
Speaker 1: back to like what you said to and it's especially
Speaker 1: like the closer I am to forty, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like I look at things in seasons, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like after my divorce or this past summer, I
Speaker 1: was like I had h hockerel summer and it was
Speaker 1: so fun and because I didn't want to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship and I just wanted to have fun. And
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to like have these different seasons,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, at first, when I was reading
Speaker 1: the breakdown, I was like, oh, like, you know, these
Speaker 1: these girls are beautiful, and like I really want them
Speaker 1: to find their one and I wish that they would
Speaker 1: also maybe thrown in you know guys. But I also
Speaker 1: know it's a TV show and that's a different twist
Speaker 1: to to it. And again that like fun opportunity, So
Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. Um So yeah, I can definitely see
Speaker 1: like how you would look at it that way and go,
Speaker 1: you just went for you know, a good time and
Speaker 1: um and who knows. And I think age is truly
Speaker 1: just a number. But I think it's just when I
Speaker 1: draw from personal experience, I'm just like, like, what would
Speaker 1: I you know, what would fit best with like me
Speaker 1: and the kids. And at the end the day, it's
Speaker 1: like it is it's not the guy who knows how old,
Speaker 1: but it just has to be the right fit. Um
Speaker 1: So Ta Digs as the host of this and I
Speaker 1: want to talk about if anybody found Ta Digs to
Speaker 1: be there one because he used to be everything to
Speaker 1: me a feet I would say like, what when was
Speaker 1: he a big deal to us? He is? He canceled
Speaker 1: that question in the world of guys that are in
Speaker 1: relationships and they act singles. So I don't think any
Speaker 1: of us were looking at you that way. We just
Speaker 1: kind of saw me. It was just really cool and
Speaker 1: he was, you know, he was really funny and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm focused on the guys there, and that's fair.
Speaker 1: I just got excited when I saw Tay I. I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was in a relationship be there, but
Speaker 1: they know and that's important exactly. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: So did you girls have to because obviously we haven't
Speaker 1: seen the show yet, but have you guys? Did you
Speaker 1: have to like like fight to like pick a guy,
Speaker 1: like what if one of you guys like the same
Speaker 1: guy or how or is it like you guys both
Speaker 1: just got your own little bundle of boys setting over us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was no time. Yeah, it was never and never
Speaker 1: a time that any guy that we could have potentially
Speaker 1: you know, been into. It never overlaps. So that all
Speaker 1: that worked out and we were into some pretty cute guys.
Speaker 1: You know, we all had our fete favorites and it
Speaker 1: just never it just never overlapped. So that was really good.
Speaker 1: I love that Chris and i Ey gets mad at
Speaker 1: me whenever I'm like, oh, this is actually pretty funny.
Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends boy this check. I guess my
Speaker 1: ex husband didn't know that we were friends, and he
Speaker 1: liked her profile on a dating app and she was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm dad look who liked my profile,
Speaker 1: And so then I sent it to my AX and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, do you wanna do women to hook
Speaker 1: it up? Because she's like a girlfriend of mine. Because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want people to find their ones,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'm not like ed
Speaker 1: straight up make out with somebody and be like not
Speaker 1: for me, but you know who would love this? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is happening? That is just not how
Speaker 1: I operate. I just want people to find their one.
Speaker 1: Something might not work for me but work for someone else.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, does any okay kind of have
Speaker 1: a scenario We did kind of have a scenario where
Speaker 1: two of us had a couple of us had maybe
Speaker 1: a common interest kind of and then the other ones,
Speaker 1: the other ones like go for it, yeah, and we
Speaker 1: were like, are you sure? I think that's our age
Speaker 1: again too, though I think it's the girls in their
Speaker 1: forties who are just kind of like, you know, we
Speaker 1: want people to what would you say stuff? Oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're just thinking when we're at our age now,
Speaker 1: it's just like we you know, we're not going to settle,
Speaker 1: right because I mean, especially like Brookly you were saying,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've you know, you're you're you're not going
Speaker 1: to settle, You've you've waited. It's like, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna wait for your one. So it's like if
Speaker 1: someone doesn't work out for you, there's no hard feelings
Speaker 1: to go, Hey, this might work out for Jessica. I
Speaker 1: don't know, and don't you also agree? Like at our age,
Speaker 1: So I just I'll be forty one in a couple
Speaker 1: of months, and I feel like our intuition is so
Speaker 1: like it's getting super clear now, so it's like if
Speaker 1: it's not, you just know kind of quickly do you
Speaker 1: agree with? Yeah? I know totally. Yeah. About it too
Speaker 1: was that we all were we all liked what we liked,
Speaker 1: so we really like overstepped like what Brook like. Spark
Speaker 1: and I really didn't like like it. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that we didn't like it, but it was just
Speaker 1: like that's just not our vibe, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then were Sparkle and I we were just so
Speaker 1: in tune with what you know, with each other and
Speaker 1: what we like. I think everybody was just like you
Speaker 1: like him or you want to look at you said,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, damn wait, can we like, since I'm
Speaker 1: like single too, can we all go on like a
Speaker 1: girl's like Miami trip please and just like Miami, but
Speaker 1: you guys can come, Oh my god done. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I got our week off in December, so like how
Speaker 1: fun would that be just to go I'm like and
Speaker 1: be like, all right, you got that one. I got
Speaker 1: that one. And then we're just like each other's We
Speaker 1: were each other's wing man. We each other's wing man.
Speaker 1: We did a little bit of gossip in had to
Speaker 1: kind of change data. So this really had his benefits.
Speaker 1: So when we go on his girl trip, we'll be
Speaker 1: able to you know, we've been put it together intulate
Speaker 1: because I think it's like again like we have and
Speaker 1: I think Kristen always says it too like the older
Speaker 1: and we get we're like you said, we listen to
Speaker 1: ourselves more were And my therapist was just saying to it,
Speaker 1: she's just like your your body is letting you know
Speaker 1: when something isn't safe for when it's um triggering you
Speaker 1: so like and you're listening to that more and so
Speaker 1: I think that's such a good a good thing to
Speaker 1: have and you know, um, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: like it's all it's all good, like I'm excited. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so there's three of you on this island, Tay Digs,
Speaker 1: I just want to mention one more time. And then also,
Speaker 1: how many how many of this like young man collection
Speaker 1: have we brought to the island? What started with twenty
Speaker 1: four men? Yeah? What's their ages? Roughly? Uh one to
Speaker 1: what they're getting three? Okay? Right? Yeah, yeah, very and yeah.
Speaker 1: I to have fun. I came here and I'm still
Speaker 1: let's just say I'm still having fun. Oh, I got spark.
Speaker 1: I can you guys? I really am interested to Brooke
Speaker 1: has this look on her face like she just has
Speaker 1: some information that she's not allowed to share, and I'm
Speaker 1: just really excited to watch her. I can just tell
Speaker 1: there's something. There's so much we can't share. I know
Speaker 1: you can't. And I'll give you an I'll give you
Speaker 1: a hand. What is gonna give us? I'll say, I
Speaker 1: give you a hand, Brook, I give you a hand.
Speaker 1: Brook has another nickname. It's all dress Brook. Watch out
Speaker 1: Wait what is it called dress red Dress Brook? That
Speaker 1: that's that's the author ego that we never knew existed.
Speaker 1: And one of those young strapping men with abs just
Speaker 1: came in unlocked red dress Brooks One Lady, Was it
Speaker 1: one or was it a few? Ess? Flavorful sparks. I've
Speaker 1: had a variety of flavors on the island, so it
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I cannot this is I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to watch. It's something just so up my
Speaker 1: alley because I'm so like, there's nothing against the bachelorettes
Speaker 1: that have been on, but there's something about women that
Speaker 1: are the same age and just like watching experience life,
Speaker 1: knowing the things that we've all been through. And so
Speaker 1: it's I'm excited to watch that because I'm like I
Speaker 1: can relate to y'all versus watching a twenty five year
Speaker 1: old girl. Yeah, I just I can't being done. And
Speaker 1: it's about time that, you know, we see women in
Speaker 1: their forties, late thirties, forty isn't just full of life,
Speaker 1: still just wanting to find love or just have some fun.
Speaker 1: And you know, life's not over, Life's just beginning. You know.
Speaker 1: It's I think done that too, especially like when you
Speaker 1: get to your forties or your thirties, days just automatically
Speaker 1: assume like, okay, well you guys are getting older now.
Speaker 1: So it's it's done for you where we feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're getting into your forties, just
Speaker 1: turned forty two, so it's like I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: just getting started. Like I feel like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm alive. Like certain things, you know,
Speaker 1: my sentences are heightened. Everything just looks different. I'm a
Speaker 1: tractor to different things now. You know, when we were younger,
Speaker 1: it was like you weren't really looking too deep into things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Everything was like kind of
Speaker 1: surface level kind of way. You know. Now it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a lot hotter now, it's it's sexier,
Speaker 1: it's spicier, it's a you know, the chemistry is different
Speaker 1: than yourself having this type of a show like this
Speaker 1: because you know, so we you never see that on TV.
Speaker 1: You see all the younger girls, but what happens after
Speaker 1: because we all, you know, we all grow past thirty,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you get to forty, it's not over. So I
Speaker 1: really I really appreciate this type of show and then
Speaker 1: making something like this to show the rest of the
Speaker 1: ladies that you could still be forty. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm like I genuinely was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, these ones are my girls, Like they're like
Speaker 1: they're my age. Like this, I'm gonna watch this because
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of stuff that like I can
Speaker 1: relate to. And yeah, maybe not relating to the twenty
Speaker 1: two year old guy, but like the season of like
Speaker 1: the fun again and remembering I can remember how Girls
Speaker 1: summer and like, you know, it's like it's just cool,
Speaker 1: like to relate to like what you guys have all
Speaker 1: gone through and then again our ages. It's like, I
Speaker 1: just I love that so much more and I'm glad
Speaker 1: that who was doing that. Like we like know ourselves
Speaker 1: at this point in our lives. We're not ways time
Speaker 1: and we own what stage or what season we're in.
Speaker 1: If you want to have a heart Gil Summer, like
Speaker 1: we do it, girl, and we own it and we're
Speaker 1: not ashamed of it. And we're living the lives we
Speaker 1: want to live. So it's like empowering. It's it's not
Speaker 1: we're not living for someone else anymore. You know, we've
Speaker 1: gone through so much in our lives. Um, you know
Speaker 1: basically shoot me, you know, shoot me up and spit
Speaker 1: me out, and um when I went on the show,
Speaker 1: it was like I was finally needing that escape and
Speaker 1: it was exactly what I needed, just to find myself again,
Speaker 1: um and have some fun. So I hope it's inspiring
Speaker 1: to the younger girls too. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of twenties some things out there that feel like they've
Speaker 1: kind of grown up. And I don't know if you'll
Speaker 1: ever felt like this, but I came from a pretty
Speaker 1: tiny town where it was like prom engagement babies, so
Speaker 1: if you weren't married right away, it was whatever. And
Speaker 1: I just have spoken this word over our younger generation
Speaker 1: so often, like you just find you and the rest
Speaker 1: will figure itself out. And I hope that these younger
Speaker 1: girls get to see three stunning in their forty year
Speaker 1: old women just living their best life and knowing exactly
Speaker 1: who they are, listening to their intuition and not settling
Speaker 1: for anything less. That's like the key to It's like
Speaker 1: because you guys know you're not going to be alone forever,
Speaker 1: Like it's you might not find them for a while.
Speaker 1: But again, it's like that's kind of where I was
Speaker 1: telling person before the show, Well, I was at the
Speaker 1: therapist today. She was like, we were kind of talking
Speaker 1: about like how I was, you know, actually looking like
Speaker 1: I stayed last year in a relationship that was toxic
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be alone for the holidays,
Speaker 1: and now this year, I'm like, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: being alone for the holidays. And she was saying that
Speaker 1: there was like this like um sacred window where she's like,
Speaker 1: there's a chair, and she's like, if you keep it
Speaker 1: occupied with the wrong thing, the person, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: someone that can't sit down that's meant to be next
Speaker 1: to you. And so she's like, you know, she's like, yes,
Speaker 1: it will be people that come and sit down from
Speaker 1: time to time. She's like, but you don't want to
Speaker 1: keep that wrong person sitting there because then you're going
Speaker 1: to miss out. And she's like, and there will be
Speaker 1: someone that occupies that chair in that space. She's like,
Speaker 1: it just might not be you know, in six months
Speaker 1: or a year, whenever it is. She's like, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to hold onto something
Speaker 1: that's not who should who should not be sitting there.
Speaker 1: Let's and we know who should not be sitting there,
Speaker 1: and we do, we know in our bodies, Like and
Speaker 1: now that we're again, we're more aware, and that's like
Speaker 1: I think again, coming to the age stuff is like
Speaker 1: your body tells you, you know, and like now we
Speaker 1: have the voice to be like no, I'm good, Like
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not gonna deal one forever. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna take some more space alone next to the chair.
Speaker 1: I really have an empty chair. I don't want to popularly.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of maybe simber romances that have lasted,
Speaker 1: and they're like full of fire, and I want to say,
Speaker 1: does these days these younger guys, especially some of the
Speaker 1: guys that came to the island were pretty like well
Speaker 1: established and were pretty ambitious and had ambitious goals or
Speaker 1: already had ambitious careers. And you know, it's not just
Speaker 1: the thing where the woman, the older woman has to
Speaker 1: be the cool of his sugar mama or the guy
Speaker 1: has to be the boy toy. These guys were wise,
Speaker 1: they had things to offer. I love them were but
Speaker 1: quite a few of them had things to say, you know,
Speaker 1: and we're just definitely mature. So it just kind of
Speaker 1: like put things in perspectives. Okay, age is really just
Speaker 1: a number. Seriously, I could definitely open myself up to
Speaker 1: you know, seeing what seriously something could be with the
Speaker 1: younger guy because I've never experienced young guy before. But
Speaker 1: going on the show, I was able to see that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not just this dynamic where it's like some
Speaker 1: dud and then you know an older mature woman, he's actor,
Speaker 1: you know what she has. This was really, um an
Speaker 1: enlightenment experiencing that. I mean, I found the guys to
Speaker 1: be attractive. I was shocked. I was shocked. What's what's
Speaker 1: one thing that you guys all like to wrap it up?
Speaker 1: Like the one thing where, um, something that you took
Speaker 1: away about yourself, like what you learned about yourself through
Speaker 1: going through the show. In the process, I had a
Speaker 1: bunch of breakdowns and breakthroughs on this show. So I
Speaker 1: feel like I learned. I feel like it's almost like
Speaker 1: a rebirth. It's like, it's my sound so corny, but
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, I went to the show one
Speaker 1: way and I left another way. It was it was
Speaker 1: really like life changing for me. I think eating eating
Speaker 1: my group sisters. It was just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was met in a way. You know, it was
Speaker 1: like wow, it was a really great experience. You know,
Speaker 1: you'll see you'll find out in the episodes, UM, a
Speaker 1: little bit more about each and every one of us.
Speaker 1: But you know, I I stuffered pretty significant loss in
Speaker 1: my life leading up to the show. I was grieving, UM,
Speaker 1: and so the show allowed me to escape my my
Speaker 1: life for a little bit. Sorry, I'm getting a little emotional. UM. Wow,
Speaker 1: you'll never put alone on the show. I promise you.
Speaker 1: Don't you dare to start, I can't. UM allowed me
Speaker 1: to escape my life for a little it and kind
Speaker 1: of really tap into like who I was again. Um,
Speaker 1: and like stuff said, I felt like I was really
Speaker 1: born and I don't you know they say all reality
Speaker 1: TV whatever whatever, but it was. It was the best
Speaker 1: thing that I ever did for myself to reinvent myself,
Speaker 1: to find myself again, to heal. There was some instance
Speaker 1: where we were we we I mean the sisterhood that
Speaker 1: we formed. I am so grateful to this day for
Speaker 1: because without them, I could not I'm not the person
Speaker 1: I am today. And I came back home and I
Speaker 1: knew who I was again. I'm like, yes, this, I
Speaker 1: am Brooke, like Brooke is back and I am so
Speaker 1: confident in myself. The world is my oyster like I am.
Speaker 1: I am just so excited for this new chapter in
Speaker 1: my life. And I couldn't have done it without the girls.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like the Sisterhood Reformed was was everything,
Speaker 1: And we were on this journey together every single day
Speaker 1: from you know, when we woke up to when we
Speaker 1: went to bed. Um, we were together in this and
Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful for it. Um back a new
Speaker 1: woman and I'm I'm I'm on fire. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just you know, yeah, read she's she's there, spark.
Speaker 1: What about you? That's that's that's amazing. You know this,
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing. Um, I've rediscovered a
Speaker 1: lot about myself. UM. One of them one of the
Speaker 1: things for strength, you know, and you think, oh, why
Speaker 1: would you think strength? You know? One of them to
Speaker 1: me guys. But you know, it's just a new experience
Speaker 1: for me. Um. I think I'm going through a season
Speaker 1: of so many changes. So I was a little bit scared,
Speaker 1: you know. Um again, I just closed my business for
Speaker 1: twenty years. I don't know anything else. It's all I know.
Speaker 1: My son he just empty and I'm just empty nest
Speaker 1: and you know, my son just left. And now I'm
Speaker 1: embarked on this new journey with these girls, and that
Speaker 1: was probably the most pivotal part, was to be able
Speaker 1: to create these relationships with them. Um, the guys was great,
Speaker 1: but I had a permanent sisterhood. Uh. This relationship that
Speaker 1: we force, it's just amazing. We still talk every day everybody.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about anything at all. We are always
Speaker 1: connected to one another, and that is priceless. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: carry that with me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: This experience was the experience of my time. Unnot wait
Speaker 1: to watch you now. Girl. It's entially rarity to have
Speaker 1: people come out of reality TV and all three feel
Speaker 1: the way you guys feel. The ladies feel the way
Speaker 1: you feel. Really special, that's great. You should be part
Speaker 1: of our little group chats and all the stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: would love and I want you girls way more fun
Speaker 1: and group. Yeah, I'm just married with a couple of babies.
Speaker 1: But I'm here for the commentary. Oh well girls, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to show. We'll do a girls trip. Um.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I'm going to watch Back in
Speaker 1: the Groove and I want everyone to on Hulu. You
Speaker 1: girls are so beautiful and I just yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is not the end, it's just the beginning. So
Speaker 1: catch us in Miami. Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. All right, guys, appreciate chelsee soon by girls.
Speaker 1: These are like fun girlfriends. We need them, yeah, especially
Speaker 1: well it's hard sometimes, like I love my queendom obviously,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but it's you know, you guys are all married.
Speaker 1: I'm the only single one. I know. You had a
Speaker 1: half a chance with Katherine. Go damn real, he was
Speaker 1: like pulling for that one. I'm kidding, I would never.
Speaker 1: I always like, I was so happy, happy, and even
Speaker 1: like when she was like we barely actually start after you,
Speaker 1: You're not the same human. No, like if if I
Speaker 1: would call for you, but I love pressing too much
Speaker 1: to ever acting, but that would be but do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know because Katherine
Speaker 1: and I speak different love languages, like she she touched
Speaker 1: for instance, yes, that and like she would want to
Speaker 1: be alone, whereas I'm like, let's go to Miami, you know,
Speaker 1: and she was like, or we could just head to
Speaker 1: a craft fair. Like for example, when we were in California,
Speaker 1: me and Kristen were like, we want to go feel
Speaker 1: the sand under our toes and be real, berthed, salted
Speaker 1: air and like and wash aware. Insecurities were like words
Speaker 1: on the beach and the waves and the tide took
Speaker 1: them back to my mother Earth. And we really we
Speaker 1: were like holding hands and just crying and like you know,
Speaker 1: just like praying, and and then we're like, can't you
Speaker 1: want to come? And there's like it's so much fun.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm just gonna stay here and work in
Speaker 1: the hotel. She's got her laptop and her little tiny
Speaker 1: bag of chocolate crackers and she was like I'm good here,
Speaker 1: like okay. And then when we were there there, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this makes so much sense. This is
Speaker 1: not Catherine, Like she'd be rolling her eyes that are
Speaker 1: like write something in the sand to let the way
Speaker 1: do you want to be let's baptize you get She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm good actually, per my last email click click click
Speaker 1: click click click, that's more cats stage. But when we
Speaker 1: came back though, she was so like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: the time I needed to be alone and it was
Speaker 1: so good for us. Yeah, and we were like we'reborn.
Speaker 1: We came back so happy. She was really dealing with
Speaker 1: a lot before we left, oh man. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: sometimes again, I would never want any of mine. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm finding new friendships. Yeah, you have to like Krista,
Speaker 1: like she's you know, she's obviously um someone that it
Speaker 1: was single, and that that's to to have that like
Speaker 1: to go out with or to hang with, or to understand,
Speaker 1: like you know, with the Christmas stuff. I was telling her,
Speaker 1: like we both stayed in like those relationships. Now we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: are so proud of to see each growth and like
Speaker 1: help each other, and so I like to have those
Speaker 1: relationships too. And then the fun one, so like you know,
Speaker 1: like those worlds would be like my like fun when
Speaker 1: I want to, like they are so cute and they're
Speaker 1: actually just so sweet and kind. Yeah, it's interesting because
Speaker 1: I had this relationship with a friend a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago who was married but in a real toxic marriage,
Speaker 1: and I really stayed the course for a long time
Speaker 1: thinking that I don't know, maybe I could just be
Speaker 1: like a sense of light or a sense of like
Speaker 1: reason or whatever, and I didn't quite see it at
Speaker 1: the time of the toxicity kind of took over my
Speaker 1: marriage too, little by little, like so now it's like
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but even in marriage I need to
Speaker 1: find married friends that are like praying for my marriage
Speaker 1: and assuming the best of my husband, or you know,
Speaker 1: like you can vent a little, but really it just
Speaker 1: comes back to like being supportive and trying to help
Speaker 1: each other and navigate it or leave it on a
Speaker 1: good note. And I was in this. I didn't really
Speaker 1: realize how toxic it was at one point, but it
Speaker 1: was so nasty. That's such a um a true thing
Speaker 1: that you just said to because I'm sure, like you know,
Speaker 1: you've come to me obviously and told me things. And
Speaker 1: if I was like, Preston, that's son of a whatever,
Speaker 1: all that bleeds into your then thoughts and yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're always roll around it because you love him. Well no,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. But if I wasn't like and like,
Speaker 1: if you're around people like that, they're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: like he sucks or how could he like that? Again
Speaker 1: bleeds in so then you're gonna start thinking like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he does suck, and then that's going to affect your marriage.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, if you have people that go, I
Speaker 1: don't like what he did, but like, so how is
Speaker 1: you know, So what's what's y'all's plan? And then, but
Speaker 1: but I love you guys regardless. I know you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna like fight through it. Yeah, it just takes.
Speaker 1: It's it's really finding those friends special are better to
Speaker 1: find people that will pray for you, pray for your relationship,
Speaker 1: pray for your marriage, whatever the season is for anybody. Like,
Speaker 1: remember I liked your ex, I would say I like
Speaker 1: him as long as you like him. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the minute you stopped liking him, be out right
Speaker 1: because it matters, Like, I'm not gonna you know, you
Speaker 1: just don't. You don't need The world is negative. We
Speaker 1: all have our own insecurities, our own traumas, our own
Speaker 1: pastwork and against us anyway. So the last thing we
Speaker 1: need is some voice that's standing in a friend gap,
Speaker 1: posing as a friend and a supportive person saying you
Speaker 1: know this, this, this and this. It's just not helpful.
Speaker 1: It's like you also are brillly brilliant person, so you
Speaker 1: don't need me to tell you much. Well. I also
Speaker 1: want to say too, though, when you say mentioned that
Speaker 1: about Max. Yes, y'all aren't friends. But for example, if
Speaker 1: you would have came to Jason's party like you would,
Speaker 1: you know you're still you'd still cordial, still nice. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because I had a moment with that. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him since the second day, since he came here.
Speaker 1: It was still it was still officially his home, and
Speaker 1: I saw him. I saw him on the stories at
Speaker 1: your party, and I thought I had this Charlotte moment
Speaker 1: from the Sex and as Andy I cursed the day
Speaker 1: you were born. I was like, what would I say
Speaker 1: to him, because my default is to see him just
Speaker 1: as the is a human, you know, not I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I had to have a minute where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I would have to you know, Detroit, Kristen would have
Speaker 1: to go in the back seat, and I would just
Speaker 1: have to be really I would never be mean to
Speaker 1: him anyways, but it was I did have a moment
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie with I thought, what would I
Speaker 1: even say to him because I haven't I don't we
Speaker 1: don't have kids in the same soccer group or all
Speaker 1: the things. And I know a lot of the queendom
Speaker 1: has run into him in other situations, so they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him, no big deal. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in a year and a half, and
Speaker 1: it's okay to have those. I think even like my
Speaker 1: friend um Josh who's the husband of s she was there,
Speaker 1: um uh you know he was just like this was
Speaker 1: really big of you. And he's like, um, he's like
Speaker 1: I see, I know, well yes, but like he's like
Speaker 1: he's like, um, it doesn't take a way any of it.
Speaker 1: He's like, I just want you to know that, like
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away. And I was just like, thank
Speaker 1: you because it's it's not, um I was, you don't
Speaker 1: have The thing is that you don't have to say anything.
Speaker 1: That's the thing because it's just like hi, like because
Speaker 1: there's no point in having like the because you can
Speaker 1: still have your feelings and still be cordial. And I
Speaker 1: think that's like the place that I've gotten to now.
Speaker 1: It's like, well that doesn't take away X Y and Z.
Speaker 1: I would always rather be the group of friends that
Speaker 1: he's like really miss them. You know, of course he would.
Speaker 1: You guys were awesome, But I would rather be that
Speaker 1: person to him always than and not like I'm braiding
Speaker 1: his hair or something if he had any But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like just to always be like best foot
Speaker 1: forward and like be you know that the higher road yeah,
Speaker 1: and because again it's just I've really just gotten to
Speaker 1: a place where life is just so short and I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm like, I just I don't want
Speaker 1: to hold onto any thing negative or just the things.
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to hold it. It's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from things, but I can still,
Speaker 1: you know, in that time, I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can still in this moment, like do this for my
Speaker 1: children and and just be like to disassociate. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's something fun for you in
Speaker 1: your birthday week that I did. Um starting at thirty
Speaker 1: nine up into my fort eve, I started making a
Speaker 1: list of things I would not carry into the year
Speaker 1: into my fourth decade. And I think anybody could do
Speaker 1: it at any age, but I think it's really significant
Speaker 1: between thirty nine and forty to just really decide. And
Speaker 1: the decided heart for a forty year old is so different.
Speaker 1: It's just so life changing. Wow. I love that because like,
Speaker 1: for the next year, I'm going to weed out and
Speaker 1: you just down so I can then at forty because forty,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's why I was kind of thinking, like
Speaker 1: when I was from my thirty nine and just like
Speaker 1: I'm okay being alone. I'm a thirty nine and like
Speaker 1: folding laundry and doing a bubble bath and having a
Speaker 1: quiet house. And then because I know, forty, like the
Speaker 1: year like you said, like the year from I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of all like and just really just like
Speaker 1: share my truths and shed things. And and then forty,
Speaker 1: I want the biggest blowout birthday. I gotta I am
Speaker 1: busy so like and by the way, when need to
Speaker 1: start planning like in January. But I just wanted to
Speaker 1: be this huge bash and just like the celebration of
Speaker 1: like life, the new and the life. Yeah, yeah, okay, um,
Speaker 1: this is good. What a fort empowering episode we've had here, Like,
Speaker 1: it's very empowering today. It is, I like when we
Speaker 1: feel old but still young, right. I love I'm coming
Speaker 1: into this new forty is my freaking favorite. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: like I get excited. There's something really cool about getting older.
Speaker 1: It's very set apart. It's a difference for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: in the meantime, we're going to eat from the Dixie
Speaker 1: Dixie play cheese cubes on a toothpick if anyone needs um.
Speaker 1: I don't know when this hairs but I love you guys.
Speaker 1: And Happy Birthday by thanks by, I love you.