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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans. It is a wonderful arm season edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in on

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Speaker 1: and our favorite tip of Talking Cowboys. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're with us here from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: As always, Rob Phillips, I'd say a stand back, heck

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yeoman's back from the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in Mobile all In last week. I sat

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Speaker 1: the hell I wish i'd been there for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked about you. Oh, I didn't realize you weren't

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Speaker 1: here either. Out the show we talked about how Rob

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Speaker 1: Pie needed to be a part of that conversation. You

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Speaker 1: forgot about sixty days to wrestle Mania. Get your tickets,

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Speaker 1: get your credentials. Gonna be court sides or ringing side.

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Speaker 1: You had a busy week, huh yeah, yeah, Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: shots to try and get back more. Yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Stop in New Orleans for the night. Hey, for the

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Speaker 1: into news and notes. What you got going on this week, Rob,

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Speaker 1: somebody's getting many Yeah, congrats, hecas. Oh wait, you've got

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Speaker 1: a ring. You've got a ring. You've got a ring? Yes, boom,

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Speaker 1: She finally proposed. Yeah, rights, she finally did it. She's

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Speaker 1: the bread winner. Are you kidding me? Yeah? No, it was.

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Speaker 1: and she's just I'm sure she's probably just that thing

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Speaker 1: That's film study. Once once he gains an understanding again,

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Speaker 1: once he sits down with Dan Quinn for entire offseason,

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Speaker 1: it understands what the guys in front of him were doing, right,

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Speaker 1: what is what is the responsibilities of a defensive alignment.

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Speaker 1: What gap are they supposed to be responsible for? What

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Speaker 1: are they trying to do to the offensive alignement? Who

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Speaker 1: are they freeing up? Where is the best place to attack?

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Speaker 1: You know, when these guys are flowing. Once he understands

429
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Speaker 1: how those things and logistics of that works, then he'll

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Speaker 1: be half a step faster than he was this year

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Speaker 1: and he won't get washed out like he had been.

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Speaker 1: Even ray Lewis some of the best linebackers in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things that they have to up.

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Speaker 1: They have to anchor themselves and not get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the wash. But I'm telling you, man, anytime you

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Speaker 1: got a six five, three hundred and five pound man

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Speaker 1: it's hard to change direction. And we saw that from

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Speaker 1: Laden Vanderes and Jalen when they were early years. I wonder, though,

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Speaker 1: could he end up being full time ed rusher. I

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Speaker 1: was about to ask that depending depending on who comes back. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a chance you don't have either Randy

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Speaker 1: there's a good chance that one of those guys will

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Speaker 1: be gone if not both. How many times have we

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Speaker 1: argued about As I'm saying this, I'm like, we're going

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Speaker 1: right back to drag us, right back to this. I

448
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Speaker 1: knew at the off season we just need to build

449
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Speaker 1: like a show around it, you know what. But you

450
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Speaker 1: know what, the whole season after watching him and saying that, look,

451
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Speaker 1: he needs to be at edge and seeing the deficiencies

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Speaker 1: need to get a solid run stopper in here. You know,

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Speaker 1: a couple, right, But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: you just you just recognize that those are some of

457
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Speaker 1: his strengths. I don't think that he's going to be

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Speaker 1: who whatever defensive coordinators in here that's coaching him, is

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Speaker 1: rusher linebacker debate, which one is? Which one is he

467
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Speaker 1: better at? And his play consistently throughout the season just

468
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Speaker 1: negated all of that. He took it all away because

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Speaker 1: now it's not a linebacker or a pass rusher, it's

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Speaker 1: just play defense. No, it was great, but like to

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Speaker 1: your point, heck, who are the linebackers next year? Drebill

472
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Speaker 1: Cox coming back. That's the only one that's under contract right.

473
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Speaker 1: Vanderesh is a free agent, count of Nels a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Francis Bernard's been hurt, but Lucy so, even if Mica

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Speaker 1: part of the time, they're gonna have to address that spot.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Curse comes back now that the dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn State. I think there's a chance he's Boure. I

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Speaker 1: sure hope he does. Yeah, I sure hope he does.

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Speaker 1: If we're doing those topic, we're doing top three later,

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Speaker 1: Yeah we are, Okay, Yeah, it'd be on my We're

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Speaker 1: can tell. But um okay, this is from down in Mobile.

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Speaker 1: Last week we had a chance to catch up with

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. He says this, He certainly qualified. He's very qualified. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would consider if I didn't have a head coach,

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Speaker 1: I would have been interviewing him for head coach. Talking

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Speaker 1: of course about defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, who was making

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Speaker 1: his way back to Dallas, was passed up by a

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Speaker 1: couple of jobs, and ultimately made the decision to stay put,

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Speaker 1: maybe because of some of the talking and the conversations

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Speaker 1: between him and the Jones family. Moving forward, Cowboys fans

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Speaker 1: certainly happy to have dan Quinn back in the fold.

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Speaker 1: But is this something that is going to be a

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Speaker 1: problem going into the season. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: my biggest thing. He said it. I mean, that was

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Speaker 1: worked for word. I was so surprised that that came

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Speaker 1: out of his men. He said it on camera. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I can just imagine Coach McCarthy's face as he's

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Speaker 1: hearing that. He just imagine Coach McCarthy was smiling and

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Speaker 1: know he's just listen into that whole thread that mister

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Speaker 1: Jones said, and his face just changed his like, Oh.

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Speaker 1: The one thing about it, though, is Jerry's right and

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Speaker 1: saying that you knew that right. Everybody knows dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: is a great coach and he's qualified, very qualified, even

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Speaker 1: not talking about that part, to be a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I know. It's the second sentence that really is the

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Speaker 1: one that hits. Is that just him putting pressure where

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Speaker 1: pressure needs to be put. No, because there was a

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Speaker 1: whole there was another portion of that that you didn't mention,

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Speaker 1: where he said he knows that he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys one day, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly one day. Yeah, But he's referring to Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn. When he was referring to that, I'm like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nixt manute, So when is one day? Yeah? When is

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Speaker 1: one day? I mean that that's that's hurtful. It is.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. How much older is McCarthy than dan quinn.

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Speaker 1: They're about the same man, yet the same I can

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Speaker 1: look it up. So when you make that comment, let's

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Speaker 1: look over your shoulder time exactly. I mean, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering just what I mean. There's not a twenty

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Speaker 1: get phased out, you know, they're gonna father Time's gonna

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Speaker 1: beat him, not Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniel. Or when

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels was here and they wanted to keep Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton and gave him a raise and know five and

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Speaker 1: some marriage advice. Never overcompliment another one woman in front

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Speaker 1: of the whole don't ever do you hear about that

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Speaker 1: on your way home. He has been lighting up McCarthy

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Speaker 1: this offseason, in these past four weeks. He's not happy.

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Speaker 1: He's been lighting him up. I mean he left him

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Speaker 1: on a string. He didn't come out and say blatantly

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Speaker 1: that he was coming back until until but Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: said he was coming back, and then he said that

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Speaker 1: was that was calculated because they were working together to

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Speaker 1: get Dan back. They wanted other teams to think that

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Speaker 1: Dan could have been hired. Here, dude, that coach h yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't leaving him twisting in the wind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was. He was hanging in the wind. He

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Speaker 1: was hanging on the last little limb right there waiting.

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Speaker 1: Is it deservedly so for coach Mike McCarthy going from

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Speaker 1: first year two second year? Great question? Is it it?

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Speaker 1: Does he deserve it? I mean, obviously this is a

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Speaker 1: cutthrough business. All coaches get fired, and with anticipating being fired. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but the pressure that he's under and everybody, I feel

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Speaker 1: as if if Double Jay would have stopped, what did

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Speaker 1: leaving him as a cliffhanger, you know, just hey, are

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Speaker 1: you coming back type of deal, like not standing behind

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Speaker 1: him and saying hey to answer guy coming back, Like

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Speaker 1: he did that right, He waited a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: on that, just let McCarthy just kind of hanging there

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Speaker 1: have ended it right there, I think that would have

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Speaker 1: I like, okay, I gotta bring it next year. But

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Speaker 1: when he doubled down with that comment, oh, that's just hurtful.

632
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: That just hurts because now you got to go into meeting.

633
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: You're his boss, and he pretty much knows. And the

634
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: reason why. I remember when I was here my second

635
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: year and Wade Phillips was a head coach and there

636
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: was some dude by the name of Jason Garrett who

637
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. But he had got such a

638
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: pay raise, he had got pay raise as such where

639
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: he was pretty much had the same power financially, right

640
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: it seemed as if he was the head coach as well.

641
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: And I remember those power, those power pools, those power

642
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: struggles in team team operations where we would be doing

643
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: a walk through and the defense would be on one

644
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: side and the offense would be on one side, and

645
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: then coach Phillips would finish, you know, with the defense

646
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: walked through and be like hey would look down and

647
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: say hey, hey, Jason, wrap it up, and he'd be like, yeah, yeah,

648
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: well we'll be done in a minute. Everybody was standing

649
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: there and be like, oh, crap, Like who's the head coach? Rap.

650
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: That was the year after like Jason turned down a

651
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: couple opportunities to come back. That was a little bit

652
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: of a unique situation though, just because he was hired.

653
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was hired before Wade Phillips was hired. He

654
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: was brought in in an unspecified assistant role turned out

655
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: to bedoc before Wade Phillips was that and everybody knew

656
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: at some point Jason Garrett was going to be here,

657
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: you see. And I feel like the only reason why

658
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: that feeling there was a multiple reasons right there was

659
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: because of the pay race, because he had turned down

660
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: the opportunities, right, and then the fact that there was

661
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: at age there was a age gap, right, but there's

662
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: no age gap there by the way. Fifty eight to

663
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: fifty one, Quinn's fifty one McCarthy's fifty eight. There you go, see,

664
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: But now I feel like there's not that larger about

665
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: age age gap. But it feels very similar to that

666
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: transition of power. It really does. As I look at

667
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: it from the outside in, I'm like, this feels like

668
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Sorry, go ahead, No, No, it's

669
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: just the power struggle set up is already something that's

670
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna undermine Mike McCarthy from what you're saying, and if

671
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: you and if you can see this from sitting here,

672
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: when you go into OTAs, when you go into two

673
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: of Days, when you're going into when when there's a struggle,

674
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: how do you dictate from from a leadership standpoint, Hey,

675
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: this is what we want to do. Two players that

676
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: already know your seat is so hot, you know, how

677
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: effective do you become when we're like my kids say

678
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna go, I'm gonna go ask mom. It's so

679
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: much cutting your legs out. So much of it is

680
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: depending on dan Quinn and how he handles it. And

681
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: I knowing dan Quinn, he's gonna handle it like a

682
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: like a champ. He's gonna handle it like a champ.

683
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: JG didn't necessarily handle it that way, right, But but

684
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: I knowing Dan Quinn personally, he is not It won't

685
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: be any issues. He's not going to cause any internal

686
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: issues for a coach McCarthy. He's not gonna cause those

687
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: those little minute, little situations where everybody has to look

688
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: side to side and fear out who's in charge. He's

689
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that everybody knows McCarthy's in charge. I'm

690
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: here playing my position. But I feel as if those

691
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: two situations, leaving him on a cliffhanger and then doubling

692
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: down with those comments leaves everybody now looking like, bro,

693
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: like you're really not in charge. No. And the thing

694
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: is is he put them on different levels. He put

695
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: them on different standing zone. Because if he wanted to

696
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: really say we're a united team going to the same goal,

697
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: it's okay McCarthy and Quinn are succeeding together or they're

698
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: not succeeding together. Instead, it was well, if McCarthy doesn't succeed,

699
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: there is a guy here that could probably get the

700
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: job done. That was the biggest thing that stood out

701
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: to me. Additionally, if you take all of this away,

702
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: you take that star off the wall. You take the

703
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: stars off the jackets in which we're wearing, you take

704
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: all of it away. You're not talking about the Dallas Cowboys.

705
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: You can talk about any other team in the NFL, maybe,

706
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: with the exception of the Patriots and Bill Belichick, a

707
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: six win improvement, going from six and ten straight to

708
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: twelve and five winning the division even with a playoff loss.

709
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Everyone's happy, right, everyone's great. Everybody's fist pump. They're like, Okay,

710
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: we've got a chance here, We've got a future, we've

711
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: got a talented quarterback, we've got an offensive mindset with

712
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: all these weapons that hey, we've got some success, and

713
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, our defense looked like they had the

714
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: biggest improvement out of any unit in the NFL last year.

715
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot of positives that are being buried by

716
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: the frustration of this organization, which is fair. I'm not

717
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: saying there's anything wrong with the frustration, because I have

718
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: it too. There's frustration in the fact that it's the

719
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: same old groundhog day. You don't have that playoff success.

720
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: But there's still something that McCarthy did right to go

721
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: from six and ten to make it into a twelve

722
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: and five and ultimately make it into the playoffs with

723
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: no questions asked. We got to week five of the year,

724
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: we knew this was a playoff team immediately. You just

725
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: knew that there was a chance for it to be different,

726
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: and ultimately the fact that it wasn't was the reason

727
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: why people are upset with his head coaching job right now.

728
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: One reason why Jerry so pissed off about the way

729
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: the season ended was how healthy they were, Like, that's

730
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: everything was set up for success. So that's a gift

731
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: from the football gods to be relatively healthy at that

732
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: point in the season and to come out and not

733
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: play well at all until you know, yeah, you fought back,

734
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: but forty nine Ers were the better team on the road,

735
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: only road team to win in the first round of

736
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs. There's a part of me that is kind

737
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: of once to robut a little bit of this and

738
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: because look, if he wanted to, why why didn't he

739
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: just make Dan Quinn the head coach? And he didn't

740
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: do it? And so I don't know, I've I've been

741
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: around covering Jerry long enough. Sometimes I think sometimes maybe

742
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Jerry's just talking, you know, and some of it is

743
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: like in a way, he's kind of propping up the

744
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: staff and talking about how this is this organization where

745
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: guys want to stay and continue building their resume and

746
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and we've got a great staff. We're gonna build on that.

747
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he did talk the week before about how

748
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: he and Mike and d he and Mike working together

749
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: to bring back dan Quinn. So it is a little

750
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: bit of a different messaging. I think we all can

751
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: agree that Mike and the staff, they're under pressure this season.

752
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and what's interesting about it is this, this

753
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: team is going to be different. This team may not

754
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: be as talented, may not be as deep, probably a

755
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: tougher schedule on paper, But I don't think Jerry cares

756
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: about that. Jerry looks at it like I'm I've got

757
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback that I'm paying one hundred what is it,

758
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: sixty million bucks? You know, We've got two of the

759
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: best young defensive players on defense, got a great staff,

760
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: like he expects to win, and Mike is in charge

761
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: of that. And that's I mean, there's the frustration has

762
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: been building, uh and you you've seen it slowly, but

763
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: showly or shortly over the over the course of the

764
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: offensive slumps, and just the interviews were just leading up

765
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: to that, and and and just going kind of away

766
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: from dan Quinn even I think it was back to

767
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: something that Steven Jones said about bringing back Kellen Moore,

768
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore possibly leaving uh that you know, Mike McCarthy's

769
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: called offensive plays, called it plays his whole career, So

770
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: let's not think of this guy as a you know,

771
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: a lame He could call the plays he's done at

772
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: the championship level. So to have the whole staff back, um,

773
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: I think that looking for I guess we're trying to

774
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: dissect the words to say what they mean. I think

775
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: for this team to have all of their coaches coaching

776
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: back should be a good thing, even if your physical

777
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: team the numbers those guys are not going to be here.

778
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: I think dan Quinn knows the kind of players that

779
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: he is looking for, and he built this foster on

780
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: the other side with bringing in those free agents. I

781
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: think he can go back and do it again. And

782
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: the advantage that he has over other coaches that he's

783
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: been the head coach and he's scouted a lot of

784
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: these guys, so he knows them. I think for Kellen Moore.

785
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: I think a year another year with Dak and understanding, look,

786
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: how do we not have a lull in our season?

787
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: The way that we did offensively is gonna bolde well

788
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: for him. So just all the lip service and everything

789
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: that's gone out, I think we can dive through the

790
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: minutia of it. But seriously, it's a good thing for

791
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: us to have all of our coaches back. It's a

792
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: great thing, honestly. And keeping one thing out there that

793
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about is Kellen Moore not hired for

794
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: that Miami job that he was a finalist for a

795
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys Nation was excited for the fact that

796
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: maybe see something new on the offensive side in terms

797
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: of the coaches want to change in people's life one

798
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: year a couple months. Yeah, that's also fair. Yeah, I

799
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: mean from the number standpoint, do you guys not agree

800
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: that having Kellen Moore back is a good thing. It's

801
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: an interesting discussion because it kind of goes back to

802
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: not only Kellen's the job he did, but just the

803
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: offense as a whole. If you look at the stats,

804
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: you're like, man number one in total yard, it's number

805
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: one in scoring. Oh my gosh, it's all his talent,

806
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: the eye test showed it wasn't as good down the stretch.

807
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. So so that being said, I mean,

808
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's thirty three years old, and he does he

809
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: does have a lot of great ideas. I think to

810
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: say he can't get better as a play caller, I

811
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: think is wrong to say that. To say that he

812
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: can improve and needs to improve, I think that's definitely

813
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: something that they need to look at. There's things they

814
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: got to tweak. Offensively. This was his third seasons the

815
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Yes, going into his fourth season. Now, that's

816
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: the thing. He doesn't have a lot of experience as

817
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: a coach period. This is his mid year as a

818
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: coach period. Yes, he was a quarterbacks coach for what

819
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: a year? One year, then he was the offensive coordinator.

820
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: So that's that could be encouraging, But I think there's

821
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: a level of frustration as well with Kellen specifically because

822
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: the ceiling was there. But then as soon as you

823
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: went up against the coaching staff that had either a

824
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: talented coordinator or just a talented defense in general, Kellen

825
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: Moore didn't have an answer, And that's what ultimately happened

826
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: in the playoff game. You got into the forty nine

827
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Ers game and Kyle Shanahan's defense was there ready to roll.

828
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: And it also happened in the Cardinals game, and it

829
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: also happened in the Raiders game, and it also happened

830
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs game. Every time you went up against

831
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: a talented defense, you were out coached and outplayed. And

832
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: that's something that I think Cowboys Nation wanted to see

833
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: improved upon, whether that was by a veteran offensive coordinator

834
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: coming in here or Kellen Moore needs to take that

835
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: next step, So I think there's extra pressure on him

836
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: to do so as well. Well. I mean, and I

837
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: don't know, like, do you believe that the pet peeve

838
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: is is that he did not find the mismatches for

839
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: him from his offense to defense. I mean there are

840
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: several pet peevesize that weapons exactly, just not utilizing the

841
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: weapons and not taking advantage of the mismatches. Yeah. I

842
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of pet peeves, you know,

843
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: see your point. I think that one that stands out

844
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Speaker 1: for me is just his lack there of ability or

845
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: willingness to get his weapons to ball. There's just zero

846
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: excuse to have a roster that stacked offensively to not

847
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: get your guys to ball because there's teams that are

848
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: doing doing a lot more with a lot less in

849
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: terms of playmaking ability at that point of the season.

850
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Speaker 1: But I know, to be fair, you know, I think

851
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore has a bright future. I really do. I

852
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: don't foresee him as a head coach at this point

853
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: in time in his career. That's why I mentioned not

854
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: and even though he was doing interviews, I didn't think

855
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: there's a chance he was leaving. But I think that

856
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: he has a lot of growth left as office a coordinator.

857
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: He's obviously done a great job to date, but there's

858
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: still some gaping holes. Connor Williams has more playing experience

859
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: in years and than he does Kelly Moore does as coaching,

860
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: so look at it from that perspective. He's still very young,

861
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: very young as a coach. He's going up against guys

862
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: who have been coaching for twenty plus years, you know,

863
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: with the experience. So he has a lot of growth

864
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: and I think he will get better. He will get

865
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Speaker 1: better in the red zone, he will get better with

866
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: utilizing his guys. He will get better with you know,

867
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Speaker 1: with being diverse throughout the whole season instead of emptying

868
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Speaker 1: his bag early on because he's so excited like most

869
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870
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Speaker 1: do they want to do? Put them all out? And

871
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: I played with him and then the excitement's gone. That's

872
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: what he just did. He had a whole bunch of

873
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: toys that he had, you know, offensively, he poured it

874
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: all out and he played with him in the first

875
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Speaker 1: half of the season. Then the second half was just like,

876
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do now, you know. So

877
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: that's what he did. So that's maturity, that's and that's

878
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: all gonna come with growth. I think he's gonna be

879
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. I think he's gonna This offense is gonna

880
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: be amazing again, regardless of who leaves or who comes.

881
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of that too coming up

882
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: that we probably gonna have to address, but I think

883
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: he'll find a way. Now, just to add to your

884
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Speaker 1: point before we go to our second break, but look

885
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: at the two teams in the Super Bowl right now,

886
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: you would you would agree that the weapons for Cincinnati

887
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Higgins, right, Yeah, nineteen total combined targets and

888
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: that AFC Championship game against Kansas City. And by the way,

889
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Speaker 1: Kansas City twenty one combined target it's between Travis Kelsey

890
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Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill more so than the entire rest of

891
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: the roster combined. LA in the Super Bowl twenty five

892
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: targets for Cooper Cup and Odell Beckham Junior. Twenty five

893
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: between the two out of forty five total passes. And

894
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: you know where the ball is going. It's going, see

895
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: right to Cooper's Cup and he has eleven receptions and yards. Yeah,

896
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: and then instead it was Dalton Shultz, Cedric Wilson, nowhere

897
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: Brown on a couple of occasions. It's funny, he said

898
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: that because every time I try to like explain what

899
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: happened to this offense, I just see that bright orange

900
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: in my face and it states the Cincinnati Bengals. It's

901
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: the charts. Yeah. Well, like you just said, they find

902
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Speaker 1: a way to get to mar Chase the ball. They

903
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball against Kansas City. Didn't matter, I've

904
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: been I'm talking about this running game. They got to

905
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: get it going. LA didn't met against San Francisco, but

906
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: they still found the way to get the ball to

907
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,200
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908
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: had a hundred yard receiving game since what twenty nineteen

909
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: or something like that. Joe Burrow does not have an

910
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: offensive line that's top in the league, and he's still

911
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: finding a way. Now, maybe they're a huge aberration. Like

912
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I still think those are reasons why the offense struggled

913
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint exception, not the rule. But Kellen

914
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Moore as a play caller, you the best play callers

915
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Speaker 1: find a way to mass those those deficiencies. And I

916
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,799
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917
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: sure like he's he is the head coach, and he

918
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,359
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919
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920
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how how involved he is with with Kellen.

921
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922
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,440
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923
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,680
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Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing here, but I think that's part of

925
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926
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927
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928
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929
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Speaker 1: three guys that you want to see back on the

1003
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Speaker 1: Cowboys this year that are expiring contracts, Rob, could you

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Speaker 1: run down a list of guys that are not necessarily

1005
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1006
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Speaker 1: go all right, uh, Corey Clement, Noah Brown, Michael Gallup,

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Speaker 1: Malik Turner, Cedric Wilson, Dalton Schultze, Jeremy Sprinkle, Tian Secky

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Dawrence Armstrong, Randy Gregory, Justin Hamilton, Brent Urban,

1009
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Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, count O'Neil Layton, Vander Esch, Maurice Kennedy, Malee Cooker,

1010
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Speaker 1: Demante Casey, jay Ron Curse, Brian Anger, and Jake McQuaid.

1011
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna add Maury Cooper and DeMarcus Lawrence to

1012
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Speaker 1: that list as well. They're both in that list at

1013
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1014
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1015
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: they're out there, I want to throw that out there

1016
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: as well. So basically, from this point, you have three

1017
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Speaker 1: names out of that list that you need to give me,

1018
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: including DeMarcus Lawrence and Amari Cooper, and you've got to

1019
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: keep three guys out of that. That's it. That's all

1020
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Speaker 1: you get. Okay, we'll start with you. I got two.

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00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm going with Brian Anger number one, Michael Gallup number two.

1022
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: The punter is number one. Absolutely, dude, he was a weapon.

1023
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: I know he was one of the best players on

1024
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: the team. Still a punter, one of the best players

1025
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: on the team this year. Uh. And then for number three,

1026
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: dang it, man Cursey. So now you've got a thing

1027
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: I want to go. I think I'm going Persey or

1028
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: people are gonna hate me. Urban Runde. Yeah, big body

1029
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: in the middle him this year. I agree, we missed

1030
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: him a lot. And so you just cut a Mark Cooper.

1031
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: I did not cut, But I'm saying order of importance

1032
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: can order of importance? Now? Do we need Coop? Absolutely?

1033
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: We need Coop? Do we need d Law? I think

1034
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: we can do do without d Law for that. For

1035
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: what he's getting paid, Okay, I do believe that. I

1036
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: think I do think he's a huge contributor to this team,

1037
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously as a leader and effort and all

1038
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: that jazz. But I don't think that his performance yields

1039
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Speaker 1: what he's getting paid. So I think that you can

1040
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Speaker 1: find somebody else to do what he does. So wouldn't

1041
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Speaker 1: it the same thing be applied to Cooper If the

1042
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Speaker 1: Cooper isn't I feel like Cooper is a more dominant

1043
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Speaker 1: player when the opportunities are presented to him, But if

1044
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: the play caller isn't, if he has to figure that out, right,

1045
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: But d Law doesn't need a play caller to make play. Gotcha.

1046
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Speaker 1: Those guys are a little different though, because you don't

1047
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: have to touch you don't do anything with their contract.

1048
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean you could try to, you know, restructure a

1049
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Speaker 1: deal or something, but they're under a contract. These guys,

1050
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Speaker 1: you have to find a way to make money and

1051
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: bring them back. Sure, find money and bring them back.

1052
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: I just think you're crazy. I'm not gonna lie. That's

1053
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Brian Anger up at the top right, top three. It

1054
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: was a great player, but the top player on that list,

1055
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Brian Anger is one of the most important players on

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00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: this team. Give me j RN Curse, Randy Gregory, and

1057
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: a Marie Cooper. If we're gonna throw Cooper in there,

1058
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: those are my three I had Anger, not including Cooper

1059
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: or Tank. But as part of this conversation, sure, but

1060
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: but I mean the problem with that is, like to

1061
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: your point, there, if the if the new league gears

1062
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: started today, they'd be over the cap. And and that's

1063
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: just with the guys that are under contract for twenty

1064
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: twenty two. And there's a ton of guys. Yeah, no draft,

1065
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: which is like ten million of your cap, so they

1066
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: have to find room. I just, are you a better

1067
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: team by cutting a Marie Cooper? I just I don't.

1068
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't, I don't see it. Um,

1069
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: But again, where's the money coming from that? That's the question.

1070
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna restructure Dack's deal that was part

1071
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: of that's a planned but um, they're gonna have to

1072
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: find some money somewhere. So to your point, it's not

1073
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: crazy to talk about that, you know, is there anything?

1074
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: And I promise we're gonna get to you wrong. I mean,

1075
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess if we're including those guys, i'd have to

1076
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: include Mari in there. Um, so I would say, Mari, Randy,

1077
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: and I bring back Ron Curse if I can. How

1078
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: much is there supposed to be a jump in the cap?

1079
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: Do you know I expected or is it supposed to

1080
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: say relatively similar? It's no, it's up way up from

1081
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: last year. It's like two oh eight something like that. Okay,

1082
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: so a decent bump that could potentially help, but even

1083
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: then you can't really necessarily do anything until the tag

1084
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: deadline March eighth, March fourteenth. Got ye, Man, I am

1085
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: going to go Hooker because we haven't had a free

1086
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: safety around here in a very long time, so I'm

1087
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna try and keep him. I am definitely doing everything

1088
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: that I can to Hooker would be a discount double

1089
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: check too exactly. We need go free safeties. Yeah, obviously

1090
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: we're going to go into the draft looking for one

1091
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: as well, but I'm just saying Hooker, I'm definitely wanting

1092
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: to keep. Oh man, this is curse. He's high up there.

1093
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: I should have started with Curse because he's higher up

1094
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: there for me. So curse Hooker, and I gotta keep

1095
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: an edge. So I'm gonna go with Randy Gregory. Okay,

1096
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: if we're especially if we're gonna if we're even thinking

1097
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: about Lytton Tank go, We've got to keep. So do

1098
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: you think Amari Cooper is replaceable or is that just

1099
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: a cap casually that you got to live with at

1100
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: some point. The way that I look at is that

1101
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: we're not using Amari Cooper. He hasn't. I mean, and

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00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: then when we have or and then we're now we're

1103
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: getting into health and all of those things, and it

1104
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: just seems to be can we get put him in

1105
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: a situation to where he becomes that thirteen hundred fourteen

1106
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: hundred yard receiver and I don't think that Kelly Moore

1107
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: is gonna use him that way, and people are just

1108
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed off about the way that we use him.

1109
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: I think that defensive defenses have figured out a way

1110
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: to bracket him and Dak will not even look in

1111
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: his direction. And if we're gonna go back to that

1112
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: another year, I just don't want to see us waste

1113
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: that asset. The other side of that, too, is um

1114
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: to piggyback on that is sometimes you have to make

1115
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: those decisions with the app and you draft. When you

1116
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: draft Ceedee Lamb seventeenth overall, like part of the trajectory

1117
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: is there is that Ceedee Lamb's a one. He's a

1118
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: one receiver at something by the third year in his career.

1119
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: So well, I mean, I'm just saying if they were

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Speaker 1: to make that decision, that would be part of the

1121
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: thinking of was like, well, we have a number one

1122
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: on our team and that's that's what that's what he's

1123
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: got to be in twenty twenty two. So do we

1124
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: all believe that Amari Cooper is worth his salary? He's

1125
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: just not being utilized, Yes, to take advantage? Yes, I would. Ye,

1126
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm on that because you need to allow him to

1127
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: be that twenty million dollars a year receiver and he's

1128
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: sitting on the shelf. It's like buying a Lambeau and

1129
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: parking it in the garage. Drive yeah, or drive it. Yeah,

1130
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: it's got a whole other gears. Bro. Yeah, exactly. I

1131
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: just hate I didn't hate that for him because I

1132
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: just hate that for him because he's capable. He wants it, sure,

1133
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: but they're not giving it to him. No, So you're

1134
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna fire a man because he's not because you're unwilling

1135
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: to give him the ball. And that to me, like,

1136
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that obviously, I'm just projecting what may happen.

1137
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: But this in a conversation that you're that they're possibly

1138
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: looking at firing Amari Cooper because they are unwilling to

1139
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: give him the ball the way in which they told

1140
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: him they were going to give him the ball when

1141
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: they signed a contract, he's not being utilized. One thing

1142
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: here that just blows welcome to the NFL people. What

1143
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: great receiver though in the NFL was in a situation

1144
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: like that where he wasn't being utilized to a certain extent.

1145
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: And you're saying give him the ball, give him the ball,

1146
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: which big time wide receiver ever said, Oh, I just

1147
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: wish they would give me the ball and didn't go

1148
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: out and take it. That's my thing. Is he like,

1149
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: is there a chance that he could step something up

1150
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: to allow him to be utilized in a better way?

1151
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Too used to say that's when I'm puss in the

1152
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: locker room. I can't throw it and catch it. Yeah,

1153
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: I know there's same aspect to that this year, but

1154
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: he didn't say it until like what week six? Ye

1155
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, but that is that's not a that's a character.

1156
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a respect that's I'm saying, that's his

1157
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: way of being respectful. So we can't come out a

1158
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: man and say, well, you're not being like you're not

1159
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: being like t O, You're not being like you're not

1160
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: being like Odell Beckham, You're not being like you know like,

1161
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: So their personality differences but in terms of his capability

1162
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: and his production, it is there. Nobody has questions about that. Yeah,

1163
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: give him the dog and ball. I mean what should

1164
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: you give him the ball? To think about? How this

1165
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: offense changed once he came on anyway, I mean it

1166
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: was night and day from where we were. And I

1167
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: think the one thing that that worries me and I

1168
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: just gotta get this out, is do I see Ceedee

1169
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Lamb as a number one receiver. I think we've had

1170
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: those games, maybe Kansas City games where him and Gallop

1171
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: were the only receivers we had and we did the

1172
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: production just wasn't he agree? And like he was a

1173
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver? But I think he left plays on

1174
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: the field, you know, And I don't think it was

1175
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: as dominant as maybe we thought it would be when

1176
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: you watch him in training camp. I'm just saying sometimes

1177
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: with roster building, you got to make those decisions. Times

1178
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: can't have everything and hey, it's his time to step up.

1179
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: That that's what you would have to do if you

1180
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: were to move on from a mark. Let's look at

1181
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: it this way. If you had to make a decision

1182
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: between having Coop back or d lawback, who you pick him?

1183
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Coop Coop Yep, easy Coop as much as I hate

1184
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: means a lot to this defense, as much as I

1185
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: would hate both of that, And I think Coop means

1186
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: a lot to this offense. No, I agree, like the thing,

1187
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: the thing that they have to fix the most, I

1188
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: think is the offense and taking him off this team.

1189
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're better. And Michael Gallup is

1190
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: he ready for the start of next season? I would

1191
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: love to have him back, but is he going to

1192
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: be healthy and ready to go? From the ACL? Is

1193
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson gonna get too much money from somebody else

1194
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: and gets a deal that everybody's like, wow, wow, people

1195
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: really thought a lot about him. Yeah, you know, if

1196
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: you then what's your receiver corps look like? If you

1197
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: go out and you cut Amari Cooper, to me, that

1198
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: says that you want to extend your potential winning window.

1199
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Speaker 1: Whereas if you keep Amari Cooper, that is when, now,

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: let's win any way we possibly can and we'll figure

1201
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: it out later. If you keep a Marie Cooper, that's

1202
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: a conversation with Cole Moore. Oh, it's gotta be it

1203
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: gets conversation either. I mean, I mean, I'm saying that's

1204
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: that's a it's the other wars the reason why he's

1205
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: like getting the ball. Could we just say that blatant week?

1206
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 1: But if he's cut, I think they save twenty million dollars.

1207
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: And for twenty million dollars you get, you can get Cooper,

1208
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: you can get the guys that we're talking about. I

1209
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: mean with that twenty million, so I mean it's one

1210
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: guy that you could bring in three. I mean, we're

1211
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: talking about salary cap problems and this team isn't gonna

1212
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: look at the same so you're gonna have to scientifically

1213
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: put things like that. It's what the Saint Saints are

1214
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: a good example. Last year, coming off a big season,

1215
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: they didn't want to let go of some of the

1216
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: guys they let go, but they just they had to

1217
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: because they were so far over the cap. And look,

1218
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can do other things. They can restructure a

1219
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: bunch of guys and kick the can down the road

1220
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: all damn day long if they want to. But at

1221
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: some point you don't want to keep doing that. It's

1222
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna catch up to him at some point, not to

1223
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: every contract. All right, that's gonna do it for us

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Speaker 1: here this week on talking Cowboys. We could talk about

1225
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: this for two hours. Could but we will try and

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Speaker 1: do so again next week. As we returned back at

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Speaker 1: Tuesday eleven am or eleven thirty am Central time for

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, I say a stand back, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from the

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