WEBVTT - "I Can't Watch Party"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks, what do we do with Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where we start in this episode of Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and TJ. Robes. I'm almost a little I'm rethinking and

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<v Speaker 1>a little embarrassed about how we went into watching the

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<v Speaker 1>presidential debate between Trump and Biden tonight. We're of course

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<v Speaker 1>recording this episode right after watching, but we went into

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<v Speaker 1>it almost thinking there was going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of entertainment value, and I'm almost now, after what we saw,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost a little embarrassed that we went into.

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<v Speaker 2>It that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we went into it looking at it as

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<v Speaker 3>political sport. I don't think that's unfair. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>how we've looked at lots of debates. So we brought

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<v Speaker 3>our daughters into it. We kind of had a watch party,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak, just bringing our kids into the political forum.

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<v Speaker 3>But what ended up happening was something that you and

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<v Speaker 3>I have never seen, and I think most people who

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<v Speaker 3>watch tonight's debate have never seen and those of us

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<v Speaker 3>who have covered debates. I mean, I felt like my

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<v Speaker 3>jaw was dropped. I actually you saw me multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually covered my face and went into almost fetal

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<v Speaker 3>position because you couldn't believe what you were hearing and watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think every message I got from anybody during

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<v Speaker 1>the debate included the word cringe in it somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, and I think you said, we've made

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of a communal event. It was a watch party.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going to watch party, like, everybody, come over,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be crazy, right, Trump versus Biden. Finally

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see these two on the stage together.

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<v Speaker 1>And USA was playing Panama in the Copa America Cup

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time at six o'clock. So we actually had

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun evening of television watching plant and the

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<v Speaker 1>tone really changed in it had to be. On the

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<v Speaker 1>very first answer that President Biden gave, you became concerned

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of went in line with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the concerns people have had about him for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we all got to watch him live. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't about politics and policy and where you fall on

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<v Speaker 1>whatever side of the aisle and trying to spend Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we all have to agree on just what we all witness.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was going to say something very similar. I

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<v Speaker 3>watched my twenty one year old daughter put her hands

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<v Speaker 3>over her eyes and it wasn't about your political beliefs.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't about what side of the aisle you're on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was about watching someone struggle as a human being

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<v Speaker 3>and actually feeling compassion and I don't want to use

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<v Speaker 3>the word pity, but there was there were a few

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<v Speaker 3>moments where you actually felt that what if that was

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<v Speaker 3>my dad, but if that was my grandfather? And you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of looked at Joe Biden in that way, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least I did, versus do I agree with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I support what he's saying?

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<v Speaker 3>It became less about who ideologically you supported, and it

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<v Speaker 3>became more about, oh my god, what am I witnessing?

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<v Speaker 2>And and help.

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<v Speaker 1>We almost wanted to give him a lifeline. We've all

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<v Speaker 1>been in that play and it's tough to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea that I hadn't seen Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>in years, right, So I don't know. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>to him personally what he's like behind the scenes. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been somewhere with somebody who is frankly elderly

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<v Speaker 1>and your family and you're like, hey, come on, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going this way. Hey, hey, come on over here. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>remember they said that thing to you oh, right over here, Grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>that you where you have to guide them a little bit. There,

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<v Speaker 1>they're there, They're still all there, but you got to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of guide them or show them the way

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<v Speaker 1>just a little. He feels like, you're all right, come on, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, like you're almost rooting trying to direct him

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<v Speaker 1>as you're seeing it. And we've all been there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we're doing, what we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>make of it. When you're watching the president of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States struggle in a way, in such a.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, I had so many confusing thoughts in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I will say this, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>former President Trump actually took the opportunity to not pounce

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<v Speaker 3>on what we all saw. And I will give him

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<v Speaker 3>credit for that on the debate stage, because I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually impressed by his restraint. There was one point he

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, I don't know what he said, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even think he knows what he said, but he

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<v Speaker 3>said but it was valid, But it was valid.

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<v Speaker 2>It was what we were all thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have to say my mind went to like

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<v Speaker 3>we are obviously in and a very tumultuous world, and

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<v Speaker 3>I kept thinking, God, what are our enemies thinking what

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<v Speaker 3>are the people who wish us harm thinking as they

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<v Speaker 3>watched this debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me nervous. It did in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>I've never felt before. This was.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a debate I have never witnessed or could

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<v Speaker 3>have imagined I would have seen.

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<v Speaker 2>In my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>And it speaks to so many issues within our country,

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<v Speaker 3>like why we have the system we have in place

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<v Speaker 3>to incentivize or at least encourage people to run for office.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have a broken system if these are

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<v Speaker 3>our choices. And I'm not even talking about politics. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just talking about the people willing to put themselves on

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<v Speaker 3>the line, people who maybe have been career politicians or

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<v Speaker 3>someone who's obviously fairly recently jumped into the foray but

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<v Speaker 3>has a business resume. But I just like so many

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<v Speaker 3>people have said this, but tonight it was on full display.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just discouraging, disappointing, and frankly for me and even

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<v Speaker 3>for the younger generations, we were watching with.

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<v Speaker 2>Frightening. That's where I was left after tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be some who will discuss incumbents losing the

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<v Speaker 1>debate their first debate. There is a long history of

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent presidents not doing well in their first debate. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that has to do with style, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that has to do with strategy, how they went

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and sometimes it can be about substance and

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<v Speaker 1>them how they made their points. This is not what

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<v Speaker 1>this debate was about at all. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what substance was about in this debate. Style was not

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<v Speaker 1>an issue how he answered, how he chose to attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and the strategy. It wasn't that. This was strictly about

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<v Speaker 1>us all watching a guy who seemed to struggle putting

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<v Speaker 1>his thoughts together and at times being incoherent. You're really

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<v Speaker 1>not understanding what he's saying. So this debate, we are

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<v Speaker 1>not debating at all about who won on style or substance.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to talk about President Biden, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about President Biden. Do you do you see

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<v Speaker 1>any way that this he's had an off night? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any chance of that? And I want to hold

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<v Speaker 1>off and maybe there's something else going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a hard thing.

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<v Speaker 3>To see what somebody was even four years ago and

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<v Speaker 3>then to see where they are now. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>the thing we all have to think about is where

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<v Speaker 3>he will be four years from now, and what he

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<v Speaker 3>would be like during those four years, And those are

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<v Speaker 3>all real valid concerns. And you know, just as much

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<v Speaker 3>as we have an age requirement, you know, presidents to

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<v Speaker 3>run for resident you have to be thirty five, correct,

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<v Speaker 3>that is.

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<v Speaker 2>The age requirement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this will beg the question whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>there should be an age requirement or an age limitation.

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<v Speaker 3>My father will point out he was forced in his

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<v Speaker 3>industry to retire at sixty five for maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of financial reasons, but for many reasons. And so

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<v Speaker 3>if you can have an age requirement, can you not

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<v Speaker 3>have an age limitation? And this might be one of

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<v Speaker 3>these moments where we have to think about that as

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<v Speaker 3>a country, because this is about you know, this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>about this is above politics.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about so much more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, whatever you think about where each candidate stands,

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<v Speaker 3>competency has to be something that we can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>and not make it look as though it's political. But

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<v Speaker 3>competency is that has to be one of the stipulations

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<v Speaker 3>of being president.

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<v Speaker 1>And cognitive ability aren't necessarily always directly tied to somebody's age.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you agree with this because we have

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<v Speaker 1>talked to so really impressive, very recently, seventy plus late seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty year old folks who are as sharp as anything

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<v Speaker 1>you will ever see.

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<v Speaker 3>We even talked about whether you like him or don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just actually making this comparison because we were

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<v Speaker 3>watching doctor Anthony Fauci talking about stepping aside.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is he? Eighty eight? He's even realized he

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<v Speaker 2>years older.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, I don't think you can put a necessary

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<v Speaker 3>number on any of this, just as we can't determine

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Can drive at a certain age.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is and there has to be some measure

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue of mental cognitive ability in order to

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<v Speaker 3>do something as significant. I would just say, if lives

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<v Speaker 3>are on the line, whether you're a physician or is

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<v Speaker 3>someone who has lives in your hands, based on decisions

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<v Speaker 3>you can make that only you can make. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that it is only fair there is some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, cognitive test or some sort of measure

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<v Speaker 3>that we can put into place when you have positions

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<v Speaker 3>that are of this significance, and what we saw tonight

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<v Speaker 3>I believe makes many people question whether or not Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden would be able to pass those sorts of tests.

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<v Speaker 1>I yes, we have to wait and see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I am. I'll give it a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see, right, let me see in that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that came out a come out sense that he

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<v Speaker 1>had a cold. Not to say that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that makes it worse when the White

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<v Speaker 3>House comes out after they see his performance and say

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<v Speaker 3>he had a cold. Because yes, his voice was raspy.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the least of my concerns. Yes, fine, if

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<v Speaker 3>he had a cold, I can I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 3>That was not what made me nervous or made me

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<v Speaker 3>concerned watching tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>What does any American who watched that tonight and waking

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<v Speaker 1>up the next morning these discussions taking place, how are

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<v Speaker 1>we supposed to feel when you didn't maybe feel great

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<v Speaker 1>about your choices before, right do you? How are you

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to feel about them? Because there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so much on TV and the politics and the inns

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<v Speaker 1>and outs and the convention and who's going to step

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<v Speaker 1>in it's going to be jocking. Oh that's politics. But

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<v Speaker 1>how am I supposed to feel about the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>this country and where we are? And the choices that

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<v Speaker 1>are already maybe didn't like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's concerning, and here's something that you and I can

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<v Speaker 3>speak to directly.

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<v Speaker 2>So we watched.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we watched the debate, but we watched the coverage

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<v Speaker 3>after the debate, and I think you and I know

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that we can speak very confidently about.

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<v Speaker 3>When you see broadcasters defending or at least trying to

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<v Speaker 3>massage something that's obvious to everyone who watched, that's concerning

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I would appreciate in these moments for people

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<v Speaker 3>who are journalists, whatever network you work for, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest about what you witnessed and then to have a

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<v Speaker 3>real conversation, because that is our job. That is our

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<v Speaker 3>role as journalist to seek the truth right or at

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<v Speaker 3>least to point out the obvious, and not to say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>look back in history, and every incumbent president who goes

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<v Speaker 3>onto their first debate falters slightly. That is not, as

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<v Speaker 3>you pointed out, what we're talking about what we saw tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's all just be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I would appreciate that from people whose

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<v Speaker 3>job it is to call and put our politicians in

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<v Speaker 3>the spotlight, to say, hey, this is what we're seeing,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what we want to have answers about, and

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<v Speaker 3>to really just look at it from the perspective of

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<v Speaker 3>what is best for the voters to have a clear, honest,

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<v Speaker 3>have clear, honest answers about what we're dealing with and

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<v Speaker 3>who we're voting for.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it just in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>The way we cover politics and how we cover politics

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately doesn't give many voters that honest, true questions, like

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<v Speaker 3>where you're actually asking what did we see?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this is a rarity, right, We've been jumping around

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<v Speaker 1>watching everybody's coverage afterwards, but this is a rarity after

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<v Speaker 1>a debate that to your point, we have seen that

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<v Speaker 1>and not a lot of it from what were not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of defense of President Biden's performance. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a rare occasion where every Democrat in every Republican

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<v Speaker 1>on a set seemed to be agreeing about what we

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<v Speaker 1>all saw. And there's not a lot of Democrats. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just no denying. So it's rare to see that that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of agreement on both sides about the performance of

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<v Speaker 1>one candidate. Everybody saw the same thing tonight, and it's remarkable. Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the guy he's on the stage with just

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago was found guilty of what thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and that wasn't really even a non issue.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a non issue.

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<v Speaker 1>A felon, a convicted felon is debating President Biden. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're afterwards talking about President Biden's performance and what he

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<v Speaker 1>did to night on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>That is remarkable, it really was.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, we did have this It seems

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<v Speaker 3>weird to even call it a watch party now, but

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<v Speaker 3>to have the younger We had several young women, one, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 3>five young women with us.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our life now is just right.

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<v Speaker 2>From twenty one to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was quiet because I think everyone was not

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<v Speaker 3>only shocked by what they were seeing, but didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>even know what to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't this spirited debate where you're like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't believe he said that I disagree with this, or

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<v Speaker 3>there was some sort of any conversation about the topics

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<v Speaker 3>or the issues. That was all lost in what we

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<v Speaker 3>were witnessing. And I think I just feel sad, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really curious to see what the next steps are,

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<v Speaker 3>like do Democrats and does the Biden administration actually fully admit.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>What we saw that it wasn't just a bad night,

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<v Speaker 3>because this isn't the first time, obviously that we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>signs that perhaps Joe Biden isn't isn't the person who

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<v Speaker 3>can handle the next four years in office physically mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty six maybe eighty six. I mean, I know how

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<v Speaker 1>many eighty plus year olds you No, no excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>I Am not going to get into his age's. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not do that at all. It's we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to just put it on the eighty year olds in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. No, no, no, that's not what we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And to your point, the White House have

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<v Speaker 1>a coupled in the past few weeks came out and

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<v Speaker 1>called these fake videos and what were they saying? Deep

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<v Speaker 1>fakes and all these things. They say, oh it a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way and this and that. But the videos spoke

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves where President Obama had to kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>presented by an off of stage somewhere. He seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking off in the distance. I know. They said

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<v Speaker 1>that one was altered when the parachute guys were coming

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<v Speaker 1>down and all that, and then him at the concert

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House as well, where he wouldn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be moving to the music and seemed to be stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>All those things are.

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<v Speaker 2>Just and clearly tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, even in the cutaways, just there was a vacant,

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<v Speaker 3>absent look to his face that was undeniable, that wasn't edited,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't manufactured in any way. And I think you know,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who watched that debate tonight, it's it would be

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<v Speaker 3>hard to have seen what we all saw and come

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<v Speaker 3>to any other conclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>So but if we for now, if we suspend some

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<v Speaker 1>judgment in some way and wait and wait and hear

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<v Speaker 1>from him, or wait for the next debate that's months away.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the talk is there's no way that debate

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<v Speaker 1>is taking place, no way. So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for. Do we replacing him? And there's this

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<v Speaker 1>new set of chaos, new jockeying, and we got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through more cable news debate and fighting and arguing,

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<v Speaker 1>And I this was a tough tough night if.

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<v Speaker 2>You took the politics out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so many I think about my mom and

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<v Speaker 3>I think about my dad, even who've recently lost their

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<v Speaker 3>parents and they're young and had older parents, but the

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<v Speaker 3>debates that so many Americans go through who have moms

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<v Speaker 3>and dads who are aging. You know, at what point

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<v Speaker 3>do you say, mom, dad, you know, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>make this decision for you, and it's a hard thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. But I feel like that's almost what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>right now in the country. Looking at Joe Biden, so

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<v Speaker 3>many people can look to their own families and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I had to make the same decision. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of national security. It wasn't a matter of

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<v Speaker 3>presidential politics. This was about my parents' personal safety or

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<v Speaker 3>the safety of other people if they were to get

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<v Speaker 3>behind the wheel. I mean, this is, to me, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>one of those issues. That's what I saw tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>To what you just said just made a light bulb

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<v Speaker 1>go off for me in that he didn't just have

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<v Speaker 1>a bad night tonight, meaning this didn't just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>him this evening. No, it means yesterday and the day before.

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<v Speaker 1>People that are around him are seeing and witnessing him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put him out there tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I to what you're saying that you're seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>decline like we are just seeing this with a No,

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't just sprung on us this evening, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just sprung on the country, wasn't just sprung on

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<v Speaker 1>the administration. If in fact, this is where he is

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw who Joe Biden is on a daily

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven basis. If that's who he is,

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<v Speaker 1>then who's responsible and responsible? To your point, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to speak to your grandparent or whatever sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, we had to make this decision for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and then I just yes, I think

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<v Speaker 3>about who's responsible? Who would be responsible for speaking up

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<v Speaker 3>number one and number two? What message does that send

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<v Speaker 3>to the world? It is this to me, this was

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<v Speaker 3>a very sad night, a very sobering night, and a

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<v Speaker 3>night that I think is going to require our government

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<v Speaker 3>and the people who you know, we choose to elect,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to really think about what we want to

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<v Speaker 3>require of them in terms of transparency and national security,

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<v Speaker 3>and do we need to make changes in who we

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<v Speaker 3>elect and what the rules are around that. Do we

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<v Speaker 3>need to make some amendments. Do we need to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>that we have to make hard decisions and have hard

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<v Speaker 3>conversations that people have to make privately.

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<v Speaker 2>In their own families. But now I think we're facing

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<v Speaker 2>that as a country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe that's a and again, only I'm only seeing him,

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<v Speaker 1>We're only seeing him robes from a distance through that

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<v Speaker 1>treaty screen and seeing what seemed like an off night

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<v Speaker 1>and a bad night. And maybe the people who see

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<v Speaker 1>him every day will look at that and say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not Joe Biden. He had a rough night

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. He's going to come back and be strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that'll be the case, and I hope it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just it was difficult to watch. But

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<v Speaker 1>however we go about, like you said, the conversations we

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<v Speaker 1>might need to have, just please y'all be kind, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just be kind to each other. No matter where you

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<v Speaker 1>are on politics. You might agree with this guy on nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a human being, I mean, and just he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a family and everybody's going through something. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>going through it in front of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this was a moment where I hope

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we can all at this point transcend politics and

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<v Speaker 3>really talk about things in a real, honest, authentic way.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we all really do want what's best for

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<v Speaker 3>our country, we have those honest conversations, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I hope can come out of tonight because I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't think there was any other way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>This didn't feel political, This didn't feel ideological, This didn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel topical, This didn't feel I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even know that I got anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of tonight in terms of where folks stand on things.

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<v Speaker 3>Were I felt about them from a where you stand

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<v Speaker 3>on things. It was really just about something incredibly sad

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<v Speaker 3>and something I felt actually angered about as an American

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<v Speaker 3>that I didn't know more about before tonight because it

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<v Speaker 3>was undeniable, it was not edited, and we have to

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<v Speaker 3>as a country, I think, address it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We just wanted to hop on tonight and after the

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<v Speaker 1>debates and chime in about what we saw. And please,

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<v Speaker 1>as a reminder, as you go about your discussions with

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<v Speaker 1>I know which we know you will about this and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody we talking about it for the next several days,

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<v Speaker 1>we just be mindful, be kind,