WEBVTT - New York Doctors' Riot

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<v Speaker 1>School of humans. Nowadays, if someone tells you you got

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<v Speaker 1>a snatched bod, that means you're looking fit, you're looking swell. Me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty snatched in twenty twenty three, but now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking a little bit more released, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm getting fayat. But back in

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<v Speaker 1>the olden days, a snatched body was actually no good.

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<v Speaker 1>What that meant was that your dead ass corpse got

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<v Speaker 1>snatched out of the ground. Yeah, that meant somebody, a

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<v Speaker 1>body snatcher had taken you out of the ground for

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<v Speaker 1>their own fun and games. And by fun and games,

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<v Speaker 1>I of course mean their medical education. Ooh, spooky music. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>body snatchers were huge in the eighteenth century, and even

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<v Speaker 1>before that, medical students and teachers thought they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any other options. People weren't donating their bodies to science

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<v Speaker 1>when they died because you know, Christianity and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And people were so afraid of their bodies getting snatched

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<v Speaker 1>that those who could afford it would buy traps around

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<v Speaker 1>their graves or have people on cemetery patrol. But the

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<v Speaker 1>men of science believed they were entitled to these bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>since they weren't just forwarding their own education, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the education of mankind. They need to learn the secrets

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<v Speaker 1>of the body, and one way to do that was

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<v Speaker 1>to get up in the guts of a dead person.

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<v Speaker 1>But the body snatchers, well, sometimes they snatched too close

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<v Speaker 1>to the sun. And that's what happened in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City in seventeen eighty eight. Bodies were getting snatched that

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<v Speaker 1>the citizens of the city decided it was time for

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<v Speaker 1>those doctors to get a little snatched themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Cue the theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>This is American filth and I'm Gabby Watts. Every week

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you a filthy story from American history. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode the seventeen eighty eight doctors riot be de Beniti

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<v Speaker 1>be be Beta, Betta beta beta, but a bettada. Really, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I always sing the theme song because again one guy

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<v Speaker 1>emailed me one time and said, I like when you

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<v Speaker 1>sing it, so now I sing it even more. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do anything. Just give me a suggestion. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it into the next show. In the seventeen eighties in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, a lot of his body snatching was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. It was also called resurrecting spooky. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the snatchers were medical students at Columbia College, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the only school of medicine in the city at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>These young lads started their medical education around age fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they liked to walk around the city in their

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<v Speaker 1>little suits, wreaking of entitlement and bragging about their body

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<v Speaker 1>snatching ways. Many of them were encouraged to body snatch

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<v Speaker 1>by their professor, Charles McKnight. McKnight was a big surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and in class he would complain about

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of cadavers at their disposal. He's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to find a body these days, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>it's illegal to just take dead bodies off the street. Ugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in my day, you could just find a dead

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<v Speaker 1>poor person and do whatever you wanted. And so McKnight

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<v Speaker 1>would complain like this in his classes, being like, hint, hint, boys,

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<v Speaker 1>go get your shovels and bring back a body for

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<v Speaker 1>us to dissect and defile. Columbia College was by several

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<v Speaker 1>cemeteries by the city border, and that's where these students

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of their looting, and city officials didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop them because these particular cemeteries entombed the bodies of

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<v Speaker 1>black people, meaning when the living relatives of the deceased

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<v Speaker 1>complained to city officials, their complaints weren't taken seriously or

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<v Speaker 1>even hurt. A group of freedmen even addressed the Common

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<v Speaker 1>Council in early seventeen eighty eight, being like, can you

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<v Speaker 1>please stop these dumbass medical students from taking the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of our loved ones in such a horrible way like

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<v Speaker 1>in this petition. They weren't even asking for bodies snatching

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<v Speaker 1>to stop, just to stop it being conducted so terribly.

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<v Speaker 1>The petition said, under the cover of night, they dig

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<v Speaker 1>up bodies of our deceased friends and relatives, carrying them

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<v Speaker 1>away without respect for age or sex. Your petitioners are

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<v Speaker 1>well aware of the necessity of physicians and surgeons consulting

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<v Speaker 1>dead subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>For the benefit of mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>Your petitioners do not presuppose it as an injury to

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<v Speaker 1>the deceased, and will not be adverse to di section

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<v Speaker 1>in particular circumstances, that is, if it is conducted with

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<v Speaker 1>the decency and propriety which the solemnity of such an

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<v Speaker 1>occasion requires. Unfortunately, this petition was ignored, so instead they

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<v Speaker 1>organized patrols to make sure these medical students wouldn't dig

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<v Speaker 1>up any more of their loved ones, and when medical

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<v Speaker 1>students couldn't do their body snatching there, they moved on

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<v Speaker 1>to the cemeteries of poor white people. Another doctor in

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<v Speaker 1>the city was Richard Bailey. He wasn't associated with Columbia College,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was known around the town as a real

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<v Speaker 1>sick oh. There were rumors that he had hacked up

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<v Speaker 1>people who were still alive, the poor and the sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and would do experiments on them. But Bailey was talented,

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<v Speaker 1>so he and his apprentices were allowed to do their work.

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<v Speaker 2>At New York Hospital. Isn't that great? How if you're

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<v Speaker 2>good at something.

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<v Speaker 1>People will just let you do whatever you want. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Hospital was also close to these cemeteries that

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<v Speaker 1>buried black and poor people, so Bailey's apprentices would snatch

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<v Speaker 1>bodies from there as well. In the winter of seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, body statching had reached a climax. Stealing bodies

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter was most common because the cold meant

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<v Speaker 1>that the bodies didn't composes quickly, and these medical students

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<v Speaker 1>were being careless, just taking bodies willy nilly, not even

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<v Speaker 1>covering their tracks or closing the graves.

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<v Speaker 2>When they were done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that doesn't make it any better, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least they could have tried to be better thieves.

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<v Speaker 2>That just shows how entitled they were.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it started affecting well to do white people.

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<v Speaker 1>On February twenty first, seventeen eighty eight, a story ran

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<v Speaker 1>about a white lady's body getting snatched from Trinity's cemetery,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that, more and more people started getting on

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<v Speaker 1>board with the costs of stopping these.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for nothing doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some discrepancies in the sources about what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>happened next, but what we do know is that in

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<v Speaker 1>April seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty eight, there was a riot.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take a look at one source again. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoying this creepy music? This letter was from

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<v Speaker 1>a retired colonel who had been sent from Virginia to

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<v Speaker 1>New York on business, and he wrote a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>the governor of Virginia about what was going on. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is what he said about it, and I condensed

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<v Speaker 1>it a bit because his sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>Were very long.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been loudly complaining about the young students of

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<v Speaker 1>medicine for their very frequent and wanton trespasses in the

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<v Speaker 1>burial grounds of this city. The corpse of a young

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman from the West Indies was recently taken, the grave

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<v Speaker 1>left open and the funeral clothing scattered about. A very

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<v Speaker 1>handsome and much esteemed young lady of good connections was

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<v Speaker 1>also recently carried off. These, with various other acts of

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<v Speaker 1>a similar kind, inflamed the minds of people exceedingly, and

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<v Speaker 1>the young members of the faculty, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>cemeteries have been closely watched. Last Sunday, as some people

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<v Speaker 1>were strolling by the hospital, he discovered something hanging up

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<v Speaker 1>at one of the windows, which excited their curiosity, and

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<v Speaker 1>making use of a stick to satisfy that curiosity, part

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<v Speaker 1>of a man's arm or leg tumbled out upon them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, some people were having a nice leisurely Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>when a man's arm or leg fell on them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's pretty shocking, just in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>April to have an arm fall on you. It wasn't Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even seasonal to have something spooky like that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Another account makes this story even more grim. This came

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<v Speaker 1>from an eighteen seventy three book by historian Thomas Hedley.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is called The Great Riots of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, what he says makes sense that people were

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<v Speaker 1>rioting because this is freaky deeky. He said that Richard Bailey,

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<v Speaker 1>that doctor who was known for being particularly gruesome, was

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<v Speaker 1>dissecting a body at the hospital with a team of

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<v Speaker 1>his apprentices and students. One of the students was this

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<v Speaker 1>little brat named John Hicks. Remember him, He sucks. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>some children were outside climbing a tree when they peered

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<v Speaker 1>into the hospital room where they were doing a dissection.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dissecting an arm, and when John Hicks, that

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<v Speaker 1>stupilil idiot, saw the children, he probably thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>being absolutely hilarious. He picked up the arm and waved

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<v Speaker 1>it at the kids, haha. And then he said to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids that this arm belonged to that

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<v Speaker 1>kid's recently deceased mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that messed up?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? I don't know if John Hicks was a good

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<v Speaker 1>medical student at this point, but he definitely wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it as a humorist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like read the room.

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<v Speaker 1>A kid doesn't want to see their recently deceased mom's

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<v Speaker 1>dism membered arm. Comedy equals tragedy plus time, and hardly

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<v Speaker 1>anytime had elapsed.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's bad at math.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course this account is unbelievable because how did

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<v Speaker 1>John Hicks know that this was the arm of that

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<v Speaker 1>kid's mom. It was New York in seventeen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bump in town. How would he know everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who lives there? There was like twenty five thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this was true, that kid obviously was very

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<v Speaker 1>upset and ran home and told his dad what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Then his dad rushed the cemetery to find his late

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<v Speaker 1>wife's coffin empty. And then this dad assembled a group

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<v Speaker 1>of concerned citizens and they marched to the hospital. There

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<v Speaker 1>a mob was forming, and they were ready to fuck

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<v Speaker 1>some shit up. Be right back after these soothing advertisements.

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<v Speaker 1>On Sunday, April thirteenth, seventeen eighty eight, a mob assembled

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<v Speaker 1>outside of New York Hospital, and they were thirsty for vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>Too long had these entitled medical students and doctors ravaged

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<v Speaker 1>their cemeteries. Now it was time to snatch the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of these body snatchers. According to the Virginia Colonel's Letter,

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<v Speaker 1>the mob started ransacking the hospital, and as.

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<v Speaker 2>They went they only got more and more enraged. He wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>In the anatomy room they found three fresh bodies, one

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<v Speaker 1>boiling in a kettle, and two others cut up, with

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<v Speaker 1>certain parts of the two sexes hanging up in a

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<v Speaker 1>most brutal position. These circumstances, together with the wanton and

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<v Speaker 1>apparent inhuman complexion of the room, exasperated the mob beyond

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<v Speaker 1>all bounds, to the total destruction of every anatomy in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital, one of which was of so much value

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<v Speaker 1>and utility that it is justly esteemed a great public loss,

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<v Speaker 1>having been prepared in a way which much time and

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<v Speaker 1>attention and requires great skill to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 2>That aside, is very funny to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the He's like, well, actually that was very valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they destroying property property over people? Heath is

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, even though these doctors aren't behaving morally,

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<v Speaker 1>they are very good at pickling body parts. We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>destroy everything. But the mob wasn't just there to destroy property.

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<v Speaker 1>They were also after blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Heath continued.

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<v Speaker 1>Vengeance was denounced against the faculty in general, but more

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<v Speaker 1>particularly against certain individuals. Not a man of the profession

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<v Speaker 1>thought himself safe. An innocent person got beat and abused

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<v Speaker 1>for being only dressed in black. Two of the young

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<v Speaker 1>tribe were unfortunate enough to fall into their hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, this moment was dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, most of the doctors of the city

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<v Speaker 1>had gone into hiding to escape the mob. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>sure where exactly Richard Bailey went, but John Hicks had

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<v Speaker 1>scadaddled into the care of a surgeon who had served

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<v Speaker 1>in the Continental Army at this man's house. Hicks allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>hid in the chimney, but Bailey's other assistants weren't so lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them had stayed behind to try to guard

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<v Speaker 1>the specimens. But unfortunately for these nerds, the mob got

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on those specimens and took them outside and

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<v Speaker 1>burned them. And then the mob dragged out the young doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get their collective revenge. But before anything happened

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<v Speaker 1>to them, the mayor, James Duane thrusted his way through

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd and was like, hey, mob, I'm taking these

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<v Speaker 1>boys down to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay there.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't dissect anyone's loved ones, they can't snatch anybodies.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't wave any dead corpse arms at children. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take them to jail. The mob was

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<v Speaker 1>still enraged but permitted him to take them. And really,

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne wasn't taking them to jail for the mob's sake,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the doctors. He was like, the mob can't

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<v Speaker 1>kill them if they're protected by a jail cell. The

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<v Speaker 1>next morning, officials thought the riot was over, but oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>the citizens of New York City couldn't be stopped. Hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of rioters flooded into the streets searching for John Hicks,

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<v Speaker 1>who started this whole mess by being bad at comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the members of the mob marched to Columbia

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<v Speaker 1>College and Alexander Hamilton arrived himself at the scene to

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<v Speaker 1>try to calm them down, but the mob was like,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you, Alexander Hamilton, get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the way. Who the heck do you think you are?

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<v Speaker 1>And Alexander Hamilton was like, well, they're gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>musical about me one day, so I'm super important. But

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<v Speaker 1>the mob marched past him looking for dice sected bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>The students, though, had gotten rid of all of their

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<v Speaker 1>cadavers the night before, and the mob was like shit,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't find anything that justifies our crusade. But that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't stop them. They had another place they could go.

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<v Speaker 1>Some accounts say there are two thousand people, others say

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. But all these people assembled at the jail

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<v Speaker 1>where the mayor had sent those doctors and medical students,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mob began to attack. Heath described it rather condescendingly.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, they commenced their attack with all that intemperance

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<v Speaker 1>and folly, whichever marks the conduct of people assembled in

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<v Speaker 1>that way, vainly endeavoring to break in when they could

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing more than break windows, which they will be

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<v Speaker 1>taxed to repair. Heath is like, why are you fighting?

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<v Speaker 2>This is stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just destroying property and then you're gonna be tacked

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<v Speaker 1>to repair that.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are dumb. Uh property, I love property. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was clear that the mob wasn't going to disperse,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor finally got involved. Governor George Clinton was like, ugh,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this gets resolved organically, but alas he had

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<v Speaker 1>to do his job and call in the militia. At

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<v Speaker 1>first he told the militiaman he was like, don't shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just try to get them to disperse.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's try to get them to chill the fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, Okay, But then the rioters started attacking the prominent

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<v Speaker 1>people assembled who were there to try to quell the attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Founding Father John Jay was there and he got hit

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<v Speaker 1>with a rock in his head and collapsed. And then

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<v Speaker 1>our gay ass General Baron von Steuben was also there

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<v Speaker 1>and also got hit by a rock. Of course, that

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<v Speaker 1>is according to the official record written by people who win,

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<v Speaker 1>and the winners in this case or the government, and

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<v Speaker 1>the government was there to quella.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Did the rioters really throw rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>At them or did they incite something first?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's this guy, William Deer, who was seven years

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<v Speaker 1>old when all this was going down. He later wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book about the whole event, and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>he said. He said, the Baron Steuben was struck by

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<v Speaker 1>a stone, which knocked him down, inflicted a flesh rune

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<v Speaker 1>upon his forehead, and brought a sudden change in the

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<v Speaker 1>compassionate feelings he had previously.

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<v Speaker 2>Entertained towards the mop.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment of receiving it, he was earnestly talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the governor about not ordering the militia to fire

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<v Speaker 1>on the people, But as soon as he was struck,

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<v Speaker 1>the baron's benevolence deserted him, and as he fell he

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<v Speaker 1>lustily cried out, fire, governor, Fire, So indeed the militia

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<v Speaker 1>started shooting the rioters. Twenty people ended up dying, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>citizens and three members of the militia per time. Doctors

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if John Jay would survive.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, his brain is injured. His brain is injured. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't worry. He was fine, and Steuben he was

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<v Speaker 2>completely fine.

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<v Speaker 1>After this, the riot simmered down, but the people weren't done.

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<v Speaker 1>The city had become anti doctor. Over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the riot, newspapers stopped running ads for medical schools. More

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<v Speaker 1>groups formed patrol cemeteries to defend against the body snatchers.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the students were brought to court, but nothing happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and Richard Bailey he published a public notice being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually never stole bodies inside of New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are crazy for real.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was him being sneaky, because yeah, technically he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't rob from cemeteries inside the city. Most of the

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<v Speaker 1>cemeteries were technically outside of the city. Isn't he a

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<v Speaker 1>clever little goose. One good thing that happened for the

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<v Speaker 1>citizens of New York City is that the authorities were

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<v Speaker 1>finally ready to make space for people whose relatives are

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<v Speaker 1>being dug up. They were finally listening a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and a year after the riot, they passed legislation specifically

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<v Speaker 1>quote an Act to prevent the odious practice of digging

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<v Speaker 1>up and removing for the purpose of dissection, dead bodies

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<v Speaker 1>interred in cemeteries or burial places. But they all knew

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<v Speaker 1>these little doctors wouldn't stop, so for them, they passed

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<v Speaker 1>some other legislation. They're like, hey, maybe instead of digging

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<v Speaker 1>up nice dead citizens, we'll just give you the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of executed criminals, Okay, Like if someone's executed for arson

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<v Speaker 1>or for burglary or for murder, you can just have

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<v Speaker 1>their body and do whatever you want with it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And that kind of works, But there still weren't enough

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<v Speaker 1>criminals who are being executed. So the body snatchers they

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<v Speaker 1>just had to be more discreet, you know, they covered

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<v Speaker 1>their tracks, they were subtle, and body snatching continued well

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<v Speaker 1>into the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 2>And while I.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of want to hate Richard Bailey forever, I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>because during his medical career he did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good things for New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>He improved sanitation.

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<v Speaker 1>He also did a lot of research.

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<v Speaker 2>On yellow fever.

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<v Speaker 1>He figured out how to quarantine people effectively and how

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the spread. And then he died of yellow

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<v Speaker 1>fever in eighteen oh one. As for John Hicks, that

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<v Speaker 1>little bitch who hid in this chimney, he eventually finished

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<v Speaker 1>his medical training and became a doctor, but in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven he was involved in another public scandal. He

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<v Speaker 1>and his students had dissected a corpse of a man

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<v Speaker 1>who had been hanged for murder, and in a public notice,

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks was like, we did it in a discreet and

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<v Speaker 1>secret manner, even though it was actually in an anatomical theater.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess a discreet theater. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was that the students who were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>dispose of the body did so incorrectly. They were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to put all the body parts in a sack and

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<v Speaker 1>throw it in the river with stones so it'd sink

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom, but they forgot to put the stones

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<v Speaker 1>in there, so the sack just washed up, and some

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<v Speaker 1>people found it a bit of a shock, just some

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<v Speaker 1>dismembered body parts, and so Hicks had to publicly apologize, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about those body parts, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Willy nilly.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the next year, in seventeen ninety eight, John

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks also died of yellow fever. Every episode of American

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<v Speaker 1>Filth we learn a lesson, and I think the lesson

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<v Speaker 1>here is sometimes it's inappropriate to joke around, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in front of.

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<v Speaker 2>A child who just lost their mother.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, perhaps don't take the mother's body part and

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<v Speaker 1>wave it at the child.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, people probably would have found another reason

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<v Speaker 1>to write anyway, because guys, if you're gonna take someone's body, ask,

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<v Speaker 1>ask before you take. That's like a simple thing. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people of New York were like, yeah, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to dissect bodies, just ask before you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So if you want to dissect someone's body,

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<v Speaker 1>all you gotta do is ask.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think you have to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more at this point, but whatever. Queue the credits.

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