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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Oh my gosh, Ashley, there's so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about this week. Every single week there is

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Speaker 1: a top pop culture headline that comes out of the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is. But like, here's the thing. We're gonna break

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Speaker 1: a way that we've never done it before. I have

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Speaker 1: some strong opinions about this week's episode, like strong opinion.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from the group date from Um, you know

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Speaker 1: how Claire handled some of these breakups. I mean I

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Speaker 1: let go. We have to talk about that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was your fame because he was like aesthetically pleasing exactly.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's we're gonna talk all about this. In

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Speaker 1: addition to that, Uh, it's great to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: Um is another week of Claire season. This is week two.

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Speaker 1: We were excited to be with all of you listeners,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I think we dive into it with a story.

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Speaker 1: but it is one that has been all over the

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Speaker 1: headlines and and really all of the headlines this week

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Speaker 1: in multiple ways. The story is this Ashley a Bear

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Speaker 1: and JP Rosenbaum split after eight years of marriage. The

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Speaker 1: quote is this, our differences have taken a toll. This

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Speaker 1: was so crazy last week when this broke was probably

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Speaker 1: It's everywhere on Instagram and on Twitter. And it's funny

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Speaker 1: because like, these two have lived relatively private lives for

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Speaker 1: I'd definitely almost since they got married, right, Uh, they

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Speaker 1: feel to these people that we were introduced to on

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Speaker 1: the show. But even even though we haven't seen them

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Speaker 1: on Chris Souls this season and she was do with

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Speaker 1: crazy to think that was six years ago and we

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Speaker 1: it aired ten years ago. It's uh, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have talked about before, like when we break down

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Speaker 1: couples who have been married from the franchise, they're always

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Speaker 1: brought up, but there's this mystery behind like around them,

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Speaker 1: right like they're celebrated, they're they're they're beloved UM and

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Speaker 1: like they kind of sat in that generation where where

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Speaker 1: you couldn't keep up with their daily lives via social media. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this day, aren't expected to be sharing so much of

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Speaker 1: their relationship. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so it's it's pre social media,

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Speaker 1: but they're still known. And this headline came out and

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Speaker 1: with a statement. From everything I know, and I've only

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Speaker 1: met JP and Ashley one time. Uh, JP especially is

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Speaker 1: speculate a little bit. But I had my sister, you know,

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Speaker 1: a good time to throw to our listeners. UM, listeners

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Speaker 1: dot com or hashtag us Almost Famous Podcast. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel like now more than ever, for however old you are,

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Speaker 1: fact that there was no one moment, no incident that

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Speaker 1: the two on one and they were in the creek

429
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Speaker 1: and he said, milk is delicious and then he like

430
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Speaker 1: kind of tried to go back to the guy's cabin

431
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Speaker 1: house thing and like scare them. Uh So, so it's

432
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Speaker 1: kind of an epic place. It's kind of a place

433
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Speaker 1: in Bachelor history already. Well, and it's a huge compliment too,

434
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: like the resort if The Bachelor goes Okay, we have

435
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Speaker 1: one season to film that we have to be in

436
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Speaker 1: a bubble. Let's choose this place in Pennsylvania. Like, what

437
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: a compliment to them as a resource. So it's got

438
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Speaker 1: to be beautiful, it's got to sit up right for

439
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Speaker 1: what they want. I'm excited to watch it. I mean

440
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Speaker 1: it's kind of going to be like a three month

441
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Speaker 1: long commercial, uh from the McCollen resort. But like, if

442
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: it's beautiful and it's well done, I mean, it's impressive

443
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Speaker 1: that the show can kind of pull it off. So

444
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: we do know that. We also know that it has

445
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of been released that forty three suitors, that there's

446
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: forty three potential suitors for Matt James this season. We

447
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: ABC hasn't released them officially yet, um, but we are

448
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: getting probably pretty close to that. As soon as Clear

449
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: season gets a little bit farther along, we'll probably release

450
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Speaker 1: probably mid December. I feel like that's when they usually

451
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: announced the Bachelor Girls and uh, they say that the

452
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Speaker 1: season is on track to air out a regular schedule,

453
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Speaker 1: which would be probably the first week of January. And

454
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Speaker 1: I've said it before. I mean I've gotten to talk

455
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Speaker 1: to Matt. Matt is I think he's gonna be great.

456
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited for his season. I know it's gonna

457
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Speaker 1: be a little bit weird for him because he's never

458
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: been on the show before. I think we're all going

459
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: to have to kind of expect kind of that newbie

460
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: feel and him getting a little nervous and a little anxious.

461
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna do fantastic and uh, and I

462
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Speaker 1: mean I'm excited that, you know, the season gets to

463
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Speaker 1: play out. I you know, I was nervous maybe a

464
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: couple months ago that this was never going to happened

465
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Speaker 1: for him or Claire. But now we have confirmed that

466
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Speaker 1: they have started filming. So far, so good. No big

467
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: news from there, but there is big news from Bachelor

468
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: Nation with the lead of the show. Yes, the one

469
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: that keeps everything moving, the man who is famous for

470
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: helping singles navigate the ups and downs of relationships and

471
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: trying to match people together. Well, he is matched together. Uh.

472
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor Chris Harrison says that quarantining with his girlfriend was

473
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Speaker 1: a kind of a godsend and his girlfriend is Yes,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Sima. Yeah. Chris and Lauren have been together for

475
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Speaker 1: almost two and a half years, and the two of

476
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Speaker 1: them are constantly on the go, whether it's actually traveling

477
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: or just working NonStop. Both of them are kind of workaholics.

478
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: Lauren gets excited about going to work every day. I

479
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: talked to her about this. I'm like, you're telling me

480
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Speaker 1: that you don't get like kind of annoyed that you

481
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Speaker 1: have to get in the car, get to be constantly

482
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Speaker 1: camera ready, that you're going this way in that way

483
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: in l A traffic. And She's like, no, I get

484
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: like a high off it. I love going to work

485
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Speaker 1: every day. I feel like Chris does feel the same.

486
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that the reason that he says it's

487
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a godsend is that it really pushed He says, it

488
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: pushed the pause button for them. They got to spend

489
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Speaker 1: a lot of intimate time together and it was great.

490
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just really nice for them to

491
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Speaker 1: be able to have this time together instead of being

492
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: these busy bees all the time, right, I mean, it

493
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: is it's a change of rhythm, it's a change of

494
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: pace for them. They both get each other's lifestyles, which

495
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: is important, and I think, uh, they support each other's lifestyles.

496
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: There into you know, two different careers, but both within entertainment.

497
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Both have a lot of demands on them and it's

498
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: great to see. I mean, honestly, as somebody who has

499
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Speaker 1: a lot of respect for both of them. Lauren Zima

500
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: was my very first interview when I became the Bachelor,

501
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: and Chris is obviously somebody that just means a ton

502
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: to me as a human and he's been great to

503
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: me on and off camera. Uh, it's just good to

504
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: see them happy and smiling and enjoying each other's company. UM,

505
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I never saw this coming, like when

506
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: they announced that, I never like saw this becoming a couple,

507
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: But now that it has, it makes a lot of sense.

508
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: And Uh, if you can make it through quarantine, you

509
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: can make it through a lot of things. And I'm

510
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: pumped that this is the headline where Chris says it's

511
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a godsen to be with Lauren because he spent a

512
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: few years of his life single. And you know what

513
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that's like. You get used to it, you get used

514
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: to kind of just doing your own thing when you

515
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: want to do it. But it's obviously working for the

516
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: both of them. I feel for them, being that they

517
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: are going to be really apart for the next two months,

518
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: probably like they have never been apart. I think that

519
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: when he was in Palm Springs he saw her a

520
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: couple of times. Um, when he brought his son to

521
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: college in Texas. Well, somebody who is another fan favorite,

522
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: and I would say another leader of the franchise. Uh.

523
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: Emily Maynard gives birth to baby number five, her fourth

524
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: child with husband Tyler Johnson. This according to an US article,

525
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: This was crazy. So Emily posted on Instagram a couple

526
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: of days go saying like here comes number five. And

527
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: I think some of us were like, Okay, so she's

528
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: announcing that she's pregnant. Well, little did we know she

529
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: was pretty much in labor with number five at that point. Yeah,

530
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: and she delivered the day after that post, or at

531
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: least she announced the birth of their daughter, um right

532
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: after the post. And man, five kids. She's thirty four,

533
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: thirty four, so she's a young mom. Got her hands full.

534
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: This is her fourth child with her husband Tyler. Like

535
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Ben said, and um, she posted some one Instagram the

536
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: way the she had a c section and she posted

537
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: some of her reactions. And Emily rocks. We wish we

538
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: could have her on the podcast sometimes she's she's hard

539
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: one to get ahold of. I'll tell you that. Yeah,

540
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: she said, Well she's a busy understandably, so a busy mom. Well,

541
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: more baby news. We've talked to Leslie Murphy quite recently

542
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: about her announcement that that you know, her and Alex,

543
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: her fiance, have moved to Arkansas. That also she was pregnant,

544
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: and now she's revealed the sex of the baby and

545
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: the future child of Alex and Leslie will be a girl,

546
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: a girl, so the two of them. She surprised him

547
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: in a little gender reveal. He came home one day

548
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: and she had a whole bunch of balloons, a pink

549
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: confetti and uh, yeah, she's surprised him right there at

550
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: the door. A lot of surprises for Alex, a lot

551
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: of surprises. We were you guys, remember he was. He

552
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: threw up after he found out that he was having

553
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: a child. So that was a happy throw of two.

554
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I think, a very joyful a very joyful release of

555
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: the system to say, Okay, well things are gonna be

556
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: changing a bit. Uh, they will have a baby girl.

557
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Congratulations to them and uh and also congratulations to Courtney Robertson.

558
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: You remember her. Uh she uh again was a very

559
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: popular name in the bachelor nation. Uh she uh now

560
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: is is married to her fiancee and uh and they

561
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: are celebrating as we speak. Yep, they got married. At

562
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: this past weekend. They just had their baby boy. I

563
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: think it's been about four months ago. So they had

564
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: a Corrantine. You know, they had a COVID wedding. It

565
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: was a I'm sure a very intimate h ordeal. It's uh,

566
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: it's something exciting. There's a lot of great news and

567
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Batchel Nation. Obviously some sad ones as well. Um, but

568
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: we are moving on from hot topics. We're gonna take

569
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: a break first. When we come back, we're gonna have

570
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Grocery Store Joe on the podcast talking about some things

571
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: he's been up to recently and what dating is like

572
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: outside of television. We'll be back with the Almost Famous

573
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: podcast as promised. We won't keep you waiting any longer.

574
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: A fan favorite has been around a bit. We've seen

575
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: him on Dancing with the Stars, We've seen him on Paradise.

576
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: We've also seen him for just a brief period of

577
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: time on the Bachelor, and uh, he's so much more

578
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: than all those things we know him as grocery Store Joe. Joe,

579
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Welcome to almost name his podcast. Thank you, thank you

580
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here. Oh, we

581
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: are so excited to have you here. Joe, So, I'm

582
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: sure you're aware actually in JP split this week? Are

583
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: They announced their split this week and they cite differences

584
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: that they just could not get over. Um, you and

585
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Kendall split because you just could not You could not

586
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: live in l A. And she she could not live

587
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Do you do you feel this on a

588
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: certain level. I came right out of it. I'm sorry,

589
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: h R. That's fair. That's fair. Um, I mean listen,

590
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean Kendall and I did it for a year

591
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: and a half. We weren't married, we didn't have kids, um,

592
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: and you know, we we broke up. I think there

593
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: was other things just besides location. Ashley and JP they

594
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: have two children. They were married for what but eight years?

595
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Your relationships, so, I mean I could relate in the

596
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: breakup sense of it, but um, there's clearly deeper than ours. Yeah,

597
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: there's obviously. I mean, anytime there's a breakup, there's a

598
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: thousand reasons why, and some of them you don't even know,

599
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: like it's just like a feeling or you're just not

600
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: seeing out an eye. Now, Joe, we we fired out

601
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: of the gate with this because that's obviously a popular topic. Um,

602
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: it's one that's been all over you know, the I

603
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: guess the gossip headlines here in the last couple of weeks.

604
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: You're starting a project right now to cover these exact topics. Right.

605
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: It's called Clickbait. Uh, it's a new podcast. Tell everybody

606
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: about what this is and what they can look forward to.

607
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: So Clickbait I have two co hosts from Bachelor Nation,

608
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Hannah and Sluss and Tatia Adams, and we are a

609
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: pop culture podcast that clicks through all the headlines so

610
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: you don't have to. That's our little clickbait saying. But

611
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: we'd like to get deeper. We want to have real

612
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: conversations with each other, see how we could relate to

613
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: what is going on in pop culture. I think pop

614
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: culture has shaped all of us in a certain way.

615
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: And a question we'd like to ask that I kind

616
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: of want to throw it back to you guys, what

617
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: is a pop culture moment that has shaped your life?

618
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I know mine, go for it. A few years ago,

619
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Speaker 1: it was announced that Kid Rock was going to run

620
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: for president and I had a freak out moment, just

621
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: completely lost my mind. I was like, he has a

622
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: chance of winning, Like people could actually vote Kid Rock

623
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: in the office and that would be really, really scary.

624
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: So I think it was the first time in my

625
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: life that like pop culture also felt like it directly

626
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: affected my life, like it could actually have a uh

627
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: some type of recourse on my day to day life.

628
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: And it made me realize that pop culture actually at

629
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: some level is pretty important because it shapes culture, shapes

630
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: are understanding and also can at times cross over to

631
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: affect our daily lives. And that's my big moment that

632
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll never forget because I could not understand how this

633
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: was happening. Okay, that's a good one. Um. Mine is

634
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: definitely the Jonas brothers being open about being virgins um

635
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: when they were, you know, in their upper teens and

636
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: early twenties and you know they're they're wearing of their

637
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: purity rings made me feel a lot more included a

638
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: lot less weird when it came to waiting for sex myself.

639
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: Can I can I add one more? Yeah? One, that's

640
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: that's fairly recent because I just have a lot of

641
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: respect and I'll be honest, I wasn't a huge fan

642
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: of this um for a while, and I'm sorry. I

643
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: felt fairly convicted this week personally about pop culture and

644
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way often. And this is how

645
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: and why Justin Bieber song Lonely on SNL. As I

646
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: listened to the words and I hear his cry, and

647
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: I've seen his life and I've seen kind of how

648
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: he's trying to navigate child stardom to becoming an adult

649
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and becoming a husband, his song Lonely for Me really

650
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: struck with me because it made me realize that, yes,

651
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, I always say and preach it on here,

652
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: like people on this show are real people too, and

653
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: I and Justin Bieber and like those A list celebrities

654
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: kind of always like I just feel even above that,

655
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: And that song Lonely this week has sat in my

656
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: heart all week because it just made me realize that

657
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: this kid was a star and he felt lonely, and

658
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: as a thirty one year old man, I feel lonely

659
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: too sometimes based on the criticism, judgments and being pushed

660
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: aside and like, so that's one moment for me to

661
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: again crossed over to my life. And I'm I don't

662
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: know if I'll ever forget that performance on SNL this week,

663
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: because it just like it brought me to tears. Yeah,

664
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: do you guys let the criticism get to you. For me,

665
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: it's just like a quick vent session, Like it could

666
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: just be like five or ten minutes. If I'm reading

667
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: message boards and I've vented out and then I'm done

668
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: with it. I really don't let it sink in. Um. Yeah,

669
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I I actually I am with you. Actually, that's kind

670
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: of if I if I start reading, it'll be like

671
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: a five ten minute thing and then I just I

672
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: go on with my life. Yeah, it hits me hard.

673
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm not made for it. I'm not I get it.

674
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: I get it. And and you see the way it

675
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: affects people and people that people from the franchise that

676
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: we know how affective they are from it. So I

677
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, knowing that you had this podcast,

678
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: what is a pop culture event that's happened since you've

679
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: been doing it that you've just been like this is

680
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: wacky or one that you just felt uncomfortable talking about.

681
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: You know something I just read and I was reading

682
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: I think it was on TMZ posted it, but there

683
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: was They called him and social media influencer. I think

684
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: he's from I think you Poland and he just passed

685
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: away of coronavirus. But the way they headed it was

686
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: social media influencer jokes about coronavirus now passes away from it.

687
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Like it's like, how insensitive is that headline? Like this

688
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: guy joked about it. Ah, now you're dead. It's like,

689
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I found that that kind

690
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: of disturbed me a little bit. Yeah, very click baity.

691
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that is very quick baity. That's true, it is,

692
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: but it isn't sensitive, Joe. I. We've done this podcast

693
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: for a bit. Uh, Ashley and I are always messing

694
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: up and learning and messing up and learning, and it's

695
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: just like part of the rhythm and the cycle. It's

696
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: made me, I think a better, better person for it.

697
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: But you're diving into like some really controversial topics. You're

698
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: discussing topics that are are definitely I'm not going to

699
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: think of a better word here, uh, but like it's

700
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: their triggers for a lot of people. How what is

701
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: your kind of strategy? What is your method behind approaching

702
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: these topics talking about them without like really messing up

703
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the masses. Yeah that's um yeah, because a lot of

704
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the topics are definitely heavier topics. I I kind of

705
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thirty four years old, I trust who

706
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: I am and I trust my opinion. So I feel

707
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: like I'm always coming from a good place or a

708
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: place where I'm at least trying to learn. So I

709
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: trust at how I answer, Like I trust myself to

710
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: answer pretty much anything because I trust who I am. Yeah,

711
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be an interesting ride for you and

712
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: your co host. What's the chemistry gonna be like there?

713
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean you Ashley and I, Uh, it's taken a while.

714
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: We've always had chemistry and we've always gotten along really well,

715
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: but like three years and we're better now than we

716
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: were three years ago because our chemistry build. How what's

717
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: your plan for building this chemistry with Hannayan and Tasha. Yeah,

718
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: something that I love working with them is every podcast

719
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: that we do, you could feel it, like you could

720
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: feel the chemistry growing and we're we're picking up on

721
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: our you know, the different sense of humorous and just

722
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: who we are as people. So it's exciting to actually

723
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: grow with the team. Um, but it's I mean, doing

724
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: it over zoom definitely makes it more difficult. Like I

725
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: feel like it would be even that much better quicker

726
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: if we were together in a room. But I mean

727
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: these are the times we're living here right now. So um,

728
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to keep growing with them and learning

729
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: more about that because we're totally get the zoom issue.

730
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: How do you deal with somebody who is a click

731
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: baity hot topic herself Tasha and not address the elephant

732
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: in the room. Uh see, Ashley, I don't really know

733
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: what you're talking about there, because right now you know

734
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I don't know what's going on

735
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: with Tasha. She right now is my friend and my

736
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: co host, and she's just a great person. I don't know.

737
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's ask this question. Then. Is she glowing

738
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: that she seemed more happy than usual? Is their age

739
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: like a bachelor at just like, for example, like a

740
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: bachelor at type shine to Tasia right now that we

741
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen before. Tasha is always glowing and she's always smiling.

742
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they choose if if she

743
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: becomes I don't know what she's gonna becoming. She becomes

744
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the bachelorette, who knows, but I think she'd be great

745
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: at it. Speaking of bachelorettes, have you spoken to Caitlin

746
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: at all about her dancing with the Star's Journey since

747
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: you were such a success on that show. And I

748
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: say that partial sarcasm, because you got pretty far despite

749
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: you even being self admittedly not the greatest dancer. No,

750
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: it was definitely not the greatest dancer. But it's all

751
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: about the scoreboard, and I made it pretty damn I've

752
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: I have not spoken with Caitlin. I spoke with Jason

753
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: a few times. I'm friends with Jason. I don't really

754
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: know Caitlin on that level, but it seems like she's

755
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: doing great. Like she's got she gets good scores every week,

756
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: she looks good, she's a good dancer. She is and

757
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: and Joe, I I was enjoyed watching you. Um you're like,

758
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know you're older than me, but

759
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: you kind of felt like the little brother I was

760
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: always cheering for each week, like, hey, don't don't mess up,

761
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: try your best, keep smiling. You're gonna be fine. Yeah, Joe,

762
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: let's move into dating now. And I know this is

763
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: a topic that you've opened up to to some people

764
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: about recently. What is dating like outside of this bachelor world? Okay,

765
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Since COVID nineteen it definitely makes

766
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: it more difficult but being a guy coming off of

767
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: a show that's watched by mainly women, dating isn't the

768
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: hardest thing, you know. I mean it's not. It's definitely not.

769
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: It's definitely not the hardest thing. I am someone who

770
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: likes it to happen organically, So I like to be

771
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: at a restaurant or a bar around the street and

772
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: have more of a situation where I approach the woman.

773
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Because of the climate we're living in, that that makes

774
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: it more difficult. So yeah, I mean it's just not

775
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: that hard. Okay, Okay, So this is fair to say

776
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: that you've gone on a date since Kendall. Yeah, I

777
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: mean I've been on a few dates, I um and

778
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: very you know, very cool girls. I just I haven't

779
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm not dating anyone right now, but I like to.

780
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not looking to be a single forever. Now.

781
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: We know that you were a super shy guy going

782
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: into the show, and like we've joked about this on

783
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: the podcast, how like you are a hard interview at first,

784
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: and now you've really come into your own How does

785
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Joe grocery store Joe grocery Store, Romabla, How does he

786
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: approach a girl out of bar? Like, is it like

787
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: an all shucks type of thing, well shock? Or is

788
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: it smooth moves? Um? Well, yeah, you know what. I

789
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: was definitely. I know I was a hard interviewee at

790
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: the beginning because I was I'm not really a shy person,

791
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: but I was very nervous because I remember going on

792
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: almost famous podcasts and sitting there like freaking out inside

793
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: and feeling that anxiety that's gone away after all that

794
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: I've done. But how I approach a woman at a bar.

795
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I usually hit him with like a hello, I'm a

796
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: high or hello and I buy you a drink? Hi?

797
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: Did you see me on Dancing with the Stars? Oh no,

798
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Well here's a YouTube clip that I hit him with.

799
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: I hit him with. Do you watch The Bachelor? You

800
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: might Hey, if I look familiar, you might know me

801
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: from The Bachelor. When guys are cute and charming, all

802
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: they have to do is say hi, these poor guys

803
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: who aren't so fortunate. What would you do Ben, before

804
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: you were engaged? What would you do because you were

805
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: single for a period? Yeah, you have a corny pickup line?

806
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: Or you just say hello? Oh man? I was I

807
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: was so much better on text? Um, I would I

808
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: play that would you rather game? Um, would you rather

809
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: go on a date with me? Or see a Lozard giraffe?

810
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, what's a Lozard? Draft be like,

811
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, answer my question, and then they'd be like, well,

812
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, go on a date with you? Okay? Perfect?

813
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: And that's usually how that's usually I played it. I

814
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: was always like, I don't have great like game, but

815
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: what I can do is be weird enough for people

816
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: to be curious enough to go I gotta figure this

817
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: guy out, or you guys are just cute enough that

818
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. I don't know, I

819
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know. It's been yeah, I mean that's a good topic.

820
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I've been out of it now for a couple of years.

821
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be out of it. I don't really remember.

822
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I actually, right before this podcast, I called my fiance

823
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, we have a gone on a

824
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: date in a while due to quarantine. Uh, you're gonna

825
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: come visit me here in just a few weeks. Can

826
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I take you on a date when you come out?

827
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: And she hung up and texting me and says, I

828
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I just got like nervous about

829
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: our date and I was like, that's amazing. So like

830
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, excited to date Jess and like

831
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: I still get like the butterflies about it. Um, but

832
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: what is it like being in the dating world? Like

833
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: what are you looking for? How do you are you

834
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: just kind of leaving it up in the air or

835
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: you looking for like a commitment now? Like where are

836
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: you at? Like I can help you here if you like.

837
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: And I'm just holding out that I'm hoping, you know,

838
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: in about three years they still want me to be,

839
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, the best? Um, what am I? You don't?

840
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm just looking for someone

841
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: that I could just have a comfortable conversation with, you

842
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: know when that when that clicks, like you kind of

843
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: know when the clicks and you could just get along

844
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: with someone. Uh, personality is really really big, and I

845
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: want to be attracted to him as well. That's important.

846
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Like I don't really I'm not

847
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: like a big slider into d M. Did you slide

848
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: into d M? Yeah, I slid into Jesse's d M.

849
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: And I mean I think in my whole single time,

850
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: there wasn't more than two or three people that I

851
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: ever messaged, and Jess was like the one that I

852
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: messaged and I was like, so excited to see a

853
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: shooter respond back, and she did and then we never

854
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: stopped talking after that, Like so yes, I did. Uh.

855
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: And it was an advice given to me by Dean

856
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: and Nick uh And they said, hey, like why aren't

857
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: you dating more? And I was like, I just don't

858
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: know where to meet people? And they said you gotta

859
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: go into the d M s like that's the way

860
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: you do this, and I was like, well that, I've

861
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: never even thought about that, and then I did, and

862
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean it worked, I got engaged, So I guess

863
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah, but I would say I would say

864
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: looking for that then that that because you guys started

865
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: talking and never stop, so it's happening. That interesting conversation

866
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: with someone that keeps you drawn to them and finding like,

867
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, I like girls that are a little weird

868
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of weird. I have a great quirky

869
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: friend for you who what's her name? As what's her name?

870
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Set him up? I'll send you a picture when we

871
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: get off the phone, you'd let me know. Um, I

872
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: do want to talk to you about like a couple

873
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: of hard hitting questions and if you get a little

874
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: too uncomfortable, it's okay to say no, But I gotta

875
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: ask them for the sake of Bachelor Nation. Okay, it

876
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: seemed as if you and Kendall hung out during the

877
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: depths of quarantine during the spring, Like maybe she flew

878
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: out to you in Chicago, true or false? False? Just

879
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: so you flew out to her. There could have been

880
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: a area it at the beginning of quarantine where I

881
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: might have been in l A for a few days

882
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: and we could have spoke. But um, we are we're

883
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: friends friendly. Uh it's hard to be really close with

884
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: somebody that you were in love with and you guys

885
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: were in love with each other and YadA, YadA, YadA.

886
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep like a really close friendship. But

887
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: we are friendly. Okay. So it didn't really come of anything.

888
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a closure moment. I'll just leave it

889
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: at that. You guys, is it true, like do you

890
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: feel now with time in between, that distance was the

891
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: breaking up factor or do you think that there was more. Um,

892
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: we'll talk about bed and timing, I mean, going becoming single,

893
00:49:50,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: going into quarantine. You know, it's hard because location like it.

894
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: It was definitely a big factor, and a big thing

895
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: for me was she's from l A. So she has

896
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: all our friends and all our family, and they're great people.

897
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: But when it came to holiday season or just weekends

898
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: in general, hanging out with all her friends and her

899
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: family made me become a little resentful because I missed mine. Yeah. Uh,

900
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to look at a future where oh we'll

901
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: just split time half and half, especially after the show,

902
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: because you know, once I got casting on Dancing with

903
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the Stars, I quit my job, so my career is

904
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: kind of all up in there as well. Um, I

905
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: would say location, if if we could have broke up,

906
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have broke up if it wasn't for location,

907
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: got it. And you guys got a dog right before

908
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: you split up. I guess it wasn't enough time to

909
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: get really attached to the little thing. I mean, I

910
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the timing, I just might be

911
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: the worst. I was gonna say, man, you're really if

912
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: I like, if we were if we weren't on a

913
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: podcast and we were sitting down for beers and be like, dude,

914
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: you really suck at this breaking up thing. Terrible timing.

915
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: It's it was pretty bad. I mean, I love the

916
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: dog Pistachio. You named him. I did name him my name.

917
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna get a dog and name a Walnut.

918
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was it was. It was

919
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: big timing. We're both pretty stubborn people, and you know

920
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: that that's that's what it was. And Kendall is clearly

921
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: very happy in Los Angeles and I don't know if

922
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: she would have been happy in Chicago. Where's Pistachio at

923
00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: now with Kendall. Yeah, Kendall Statio. I mean all you know,

924
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: he bit me all the time. I've got one final

925
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: question for you. Uh, you are doing something really cool

926
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: on your Instagram where you're going to all these awesome

927
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: food places hot you know, hot spots in in Chicago,

928
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: and you make me want to go to Chicago just

929
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: to eat you. And I actually we were on a

930
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: double date ones with Kendall and Jared, and I was like, well,

931
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: you guys can like talk about the universe and Joe

932
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: and I can go and talk, like we can go

933
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: eat in an entire city together. So if you guys,

934
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: so you and I understand each other in the foodie realm,

935
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: and you need somebody who appreciates food, right, So do

936
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: you take girls that you're going on these first or

937
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: second dates with to these hot spots, because like you're

938
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: really in the know. So I added the dating element

939
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: to my food videos because I realized that majority of

940
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: people that follow me are interested in dating and not food.

941
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: So I figured that would be a good way to

942
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: incorporate both, incorporate both worlds um and both the girls

943
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: that I do bring on our friends and everything. They like,

944
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, to eat good food as well. So we

945
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: just go out there and I like to showcase the

946
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: restaurant and show my favorite things to eat in the city.

947
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: I was actually in Denver and at your restaurant then.

948
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: It was very good. What and I didn't know this?

949
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah you I don't think. I don't think you were

950
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: in town or maybe you were, I don't, I don't know.

951
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: It was it was like a month back, maybe a

952
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: month and a half. We had the jerk chicken. Uh yeah,

953
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: you're down at Mr OsO was that. It was a

954
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: beautiful little restaurant. It was great. Oh man, I wish

955
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: I would have know you there. Next time. Please let

956
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: me know dinner on me? Okay, thanks? For coming in man,

957
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, that's awesome. Dinner on me at both spots,

958
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Mr Nashcar when you come to dinn for next So

959
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: are we gonna see like from this show? Then? I

960
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: think it'd be awesome if all of a sudden, you're

961
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: go on a date with somebody on this show, and

962
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: then we see a second day in a third day,

963
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: and everybody is watching your love story play out with

964
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: my friend, I'm going to set him up with now, Yeah,

965
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: a blind day. I think that's great. I mean, Astley,

966
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: why not, let's set him up. It's a blind days.

967
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: He has to have a date to these things anyways,

968
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: he's got to be running out of options, so let's

969
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: let's set him up and hook him up with a

970
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: nice date. Sounds good and pretty much just made myself

971
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: the bachelor on my own instagrams. We've always wanted to

972
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: do this on this show is create like our own

973
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: little mini bachelor, almost famous bachelor. So it's a lot

974
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: more work, imagine though, Yeah, so much work. Uh, Joe,

975
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: you're the man, Thanks again for coming on. Best of

976
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: luck with this brand new project not only on your Instagram,

977
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: which is hilarious and really fun to watch I think

978
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: it's awesome that you're highlighting local restaurants around the country,

979
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: especially during this time as a restaurant under myself. I

980
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: know we need it and and your support means a ton,

981
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 1: but also in your endeavors on Clickbait, which is again

982
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: a podcast wherever you listen to podcast, Uh, Joe, Hannah

983
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: and and Tasia will be hosting that breaking down pop

984
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: culture and everything going on in your world. Joe Grocery Store,

985
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: Joe the Man, Joe, thanks for coming on the Almost

986
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Miss podcast. Thanks for having me. Well. Uh, Bachelor Nation

987
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: all time favorite Michelle Money is on the line right now.

988
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: She's gonna help us break down this last episode of

989
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: Claire season. But Michelle, before we get started, I just

990
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: want to say congratulations to you and uh your boyfriend

991
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: Mike Weir finished this week cotulations. Hey, Uh for anybody

992
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: out there listening doesn't know, Uh, Michelle and Mike have

993
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 1: been dating for a while, and Mike finished second this week,

994
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: uh in his tournament, only losing to Phil Nicholson, which

995
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: I would say is a pretty respectable uh finish. But yeah, Mike,

996
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: we had a great round. UH was leading after three days.

997
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Just an impressive performance. So I gotta give a shout

998
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: out to him now on the Bachelor Talk. I love it.

999
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: That was really nice. Thank you, No problem. We want

1000
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: to go in chronological order here as far as the

1001
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: episode goes, So let's start with the words of Affirmation

1002
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: group date. So the it was actually a very cute

1003
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: idea for our date. I loved that the rightis the

1004
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: touching the awards of affirmation with her in the tower.

1005
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe they actually haven't done a date like

1006
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: that before. But the drama started during the night portion

1007
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: when the uh like Claire was like, all right, so

1008
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: it's time, you know, in mental issues, like it's time

1009
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: for one of you to steal me away, and then

1010
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: nobody got up in asked her now to me, I liked.

1011
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: I think the guys just they were on their first

1012
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: group date. They didn't know too that it was up

1013
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: to right them to start taking her away. I think

1014
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: they thought, like, oh, she's the lead, Like, she's the

1015
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: woman in power here, she can take us away. I

1016
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: thought it was a very innocent mistake on the guy's part,

1017
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: but she seemed to not think. So, what's your take

1018
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: on that? I I think that like and I don't

1019
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: know if this was just editing, but like it did

1020
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: seem like uncomfortably awkward, like there was this like very

1021
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: strange like where you do I think? And I think

1022
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: this is the deal with Claire's like she wants someone

1023
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: who's going to step up. That's just her personality. So

1024
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: I think it's like you could have easily looked at

1025
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: that and just said, like, oh, innocent mistake. But I

1026
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: actually think it's cool that she's like, this is how

1027
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, this is what's going on, and I want

1028
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: someone who's gonna jump at any opportunity to be with me.

1029
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: So do I think that it was an intentional thing

1030
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: like no one wanted to spend time with her? No,

1031
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't, But I did think it was an opportunity

1032
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: that was missed. And I think that she is just

1033
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: in a place in her life where she's like, uh, yeah,

1034
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: we're not doing this, like yeah, you know what. I

1035
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: don't think it was malicious on the men's on the

1036
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: men's part at all, Like you're like, you're right when

1037
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: you said that. It wasn't as if they didn't want

1038
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: to spend time with her, but it's certainly set this

1039
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: the precedent now, so that going forward, they'll know what

1040
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: she is trying she's trying to find. Yeah, she said,

1041
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I feel like she set a tone from the beginning,

1042
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, and I think it was the most

1043
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to Now I think this all gets fixed, though

1044
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a problem it was

1045
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: for any of them. If these guys respond better, Like

1046
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I think that first guy was like, oh, sorry, we

1047
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: were just having so much fun with each other. We

1048
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: really didn't even think about how like that didn't help anything.

1049
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: It's just confused everything more and probably angered her more personal. God,

1050
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: when Joseph said you you must be crazy to think

1051
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: that we don't want to spend time with you, was like,

1052
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: oh your word choice, You're like, no, wrong choice of

1053
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: the b Yeah. And then he was speaking on behalf

1054
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: of the other guys, which um was who was that?

1055
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: Who like that? Riley was the one who did not. Yeah,

1056
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: he was not into that. And then Riley came and

1057
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: made that moment. I mean, I know that Dale really

1058
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: made the moment his when he he said the all

1059
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: the perfect words, unbelievable. Dale just showing up like this

1060
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: night in shining Armor. You're just like, where did you

1061
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: had some skepticism about Dale Man did I did I

1062
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: really like him in that moment? I feel like he was.

1063
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: He really was just like and and the way that

1064
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: he explained it, it was almost like, I'm not going

1065
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: to hold back anymore. Okay, here I am. I'm going

1066
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: to show up for you, and we all just need

1067
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: to show up, you know, more authentically to who we are,

1068
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: because you can tell that. And you guys know, when

1069
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: you're in those situations you want to be respectful of

1070
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: the other, like you know, contestants and the other people,

1071
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: and you don't there's that line where you're like, I

1072
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: don't want to, don't be too you know, forcefull, So yeah,

1073
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: to show me. And it's almost like they were all

1074
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of maybe feeling that and and being mind a

1075
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: little maybe too mindful of each other and not as

1076
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: much they didn't want to get the target on their back.

1077
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: And then he kind of in that moment was like, Oh,

1078
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't even care if I have a target on

1079
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: my back as long as it means that, like I'm

1080
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: getting your attention and we're vibing. So what a shining

1081
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: moment for him. Another shining moment for Day. And then

1082
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Riley also really stood up. I love the way that

1083
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: he treated her, that whole little play on the high

1084
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: school dates, slow dancing. He had game. I liked it.

1085
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: He had game, Like it was, yeah, there's I have

1086
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: to say, there's amazing men on this season. Like this

1087
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: episode was really a great episode to get to know

1088
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: these guys better. And at the end of the episode,

1089
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, these are really really solid, good

1090
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: dudes for the most part. Brandon, which will get to

1091
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: in a minute, Okay, okay, so let's go to the

1092
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: one on one now. The one on one with Jason

1093
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: was they got deep that was way deeper than you

1094
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: get on a normal day, and I loved how Jason

1095
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: embraced it all. It was a great day and it

1096
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: made me feel watching it like, oh man, if this

1097
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: is a good guy, I hope that everybody like she

1098
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: really did think through any possible decision that she leaves early. Well.

1099
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when you're in those moments, like I

1100
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: remember having experiences like that where I wanted to open

1101
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: up and be vulnerable, but you're like, this is like

1102
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: national television, so it's not like you're just having this

1103
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: intimate conversation with this one person. It's like millions of people,

1104
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: and the fact that he as reluctant as he was initially,

1105
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: like the fact that he just kind of surrendered to

1106
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: the moment and declare and just like allowed himself to

1107
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: go there just speaks volumes about what kind of guy

1108
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: he is, because that is so scary to do, just

1109
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: aloneless and one let alone, knowing that it's going to

1110
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: be televised. Um. I have to say, though, I think

1111
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: that like the one thing I'm loving seeing with this

1112
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: season with an older and more mature bachelorette is you know,

1113
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: you're you're seeing the evolution of a very strong woman

1114
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: who's been down a really dark path where a lot

1115
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: of times it's almost like and I think that's what

1116
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: we're seeing is like when you're in your twenties and

1117
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: they're casting these younger um men and women in their twenties,

1118
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like it's not until you get to

1119
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: your thirties that you're able to kind of reflect and

1120
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: look back and like find the those powerful moments within

1121
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: you where you are showing up for yourself more. And

1122
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: I think that like what Claire is bringing is that

1123
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: maturity and that like um emotional maturity, And I think

1124
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: it's refreshing. Like I I would much rather watch a

1125
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: show where we're talking about like the love languages and

1126
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: like you know, like dealing with kind of like traumas

1127
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: from our past and like how we're showing up differently

1128
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: in the world. And I just I think that what

1129
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: Claire is bringing is so beautiful and authentic and needed,

1130
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: especially like now with everything going on in the world. Yeah,

1131
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: it felt like it felt like just such an intimate date,

1132
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: even it being nighttime and them doing nothing other than

1133
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: sitting around a fire. It felt like we were watching

1134
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: a regular date out in real life where they were

1135
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: getting to know each other and there was just no

1136
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: small talk. Because I get so frustrated sometimes watching dates

1137
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: where it's just like, Okay, I'm getting to know nothing

1138
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: about this human on this like horseback riding eight or

1139
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: like this a t V day, so totally, so I

1140
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: felt like it's it's usually a waste of my time,

1141
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming it's the waste of the leads time

1142
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: until they actually sit down, so they kind of just

1143
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: skip the small talk, and I like that. Then I

1144
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: loved it. It's refreshing. I mean what my takeaway was,

1145
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: like I watched it I was like, well, this is

1146
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: a good exercise for me to do personally, like now,

1147
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: like totally now. I don't know if it's a complete

1148
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: healing practice like just writing them down and throwing them away.

1149
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: But what it does do is it, like you said,

1150
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: like it shows us that vulnerability is something important to Claire.

1151
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: It also shows me, hey, like this is a good

1152
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: practice to get those things that are like that are

1153
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 1: kind of haunting me or I feel like I can't

1154
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: share out there. I watched it, you know, so many

1155
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: times we go, oh, this is like just fantasy land.

1156
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: And I think one cool part about having this in

1157
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: a bubble is it's making these dates less luxurious and

1158
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: making them more relatable. And I'm really enjoying that. Yeah,

1159
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: I agree on I think it. That was totally well said,

1160
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: and I think that I think that there does need

1161
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: to be a lot more healing around the masculine. I

1162
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: feel like there's so many men who are so um

1163
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: unable to express their emotions and it's it's like making

1164
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: it harder for the feminine to kind of you know,

1165
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: be more vulnerable. And it's a cycle, right, But I

1166
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: think that what I think that's so cool about Claire

1167
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: as the bachelorette is, we're seeing a more mature like

1168
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: approach to dating that I think is really needed right

1169
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: now in the world. I mean, she embraces herself so

1170
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: much and I love seeing it, Like she doesn't care

1171
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: what she looks like. No, and by the way she looks,

1172
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: and she physically stunning, I mean physically. I know that's

1173
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: not what you were saying, but like physically, and my

1174
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: girlfriend is looking hot, so hot, so hot. I guess.

1175
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: On that note, let's go to Brandon, which on the

1176
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: On the next group date, he says, I am really

1177
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: I signed up. I was so excited when I found

1178
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: out it was you, Like I wanted to be here

1179
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: for you. And then she said, well, what is it

1180
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: about me that resonated with you? And then he really

1181
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: couldn't say anything other than that he was physically attracted

1182
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: to her, which of course a girl wants to hear,

1183
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: but not in this circumstance you want you want to

1184
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: go well, of course you're beautiful, but there's this and

1185
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: that and that, and he had nothing behind you're beautiful.

1186
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that he couldn't just pick something out

1187
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: of his brain that would apply to anyone that you

1188
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: can really you can pin you can pinpoint a couple

1189
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: of qualities about somebody within twenty minutes of knowing them,

1190
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: and he could. He froze. Yes, Ben Again, it feels

1191
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: like it's just this emotional immaturity, right, it's like this

1192
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: inability to go deeper than the surface level that you know.

1193
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: I think for some people that works, and I think

1194
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: for Clara just doesn't. It's just not happening for her.

1195
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: We're not She's like, we're just not doing this. So

1196
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: you're so by Well last week, it's interesting, Ashley, you

1197
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: mentioned on the podcast that he was aesthetically one of

1198
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 1: your favorites. He was, Yeah, but he turned it didn't

1199
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: matter anymore. Yeah, isn't that funny? He froze. I mean

1200
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: what happened though, I have a little bit of grace

1201
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: from him and hear me out because I know that

1202
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: he did not mean this to be anything uh intentionally bad.

1203
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: He didn't mean to offend her like no, I know

1204
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: there are a few days in like, you're so nervous,

1205
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: and I know I don't want to just like excuses.

1206
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: You're so nervous, and you have this absolutely stunning, stunning

1207
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: person sitting across from you that you're like, I don't

1208
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: know what else to say right now other the fact

1209
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: that you're beautiful. You're beautiful, like I know you were

1210
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: a lot more than that, but like I just I'm

1211
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: I think you're gorgeous. I don't know how to talk

1212
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: to you right now. Just give me a few days

1213
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: to help me realize. Even if he showed that humility,

1214
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: he would have been better off to be like okay,

1215
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: like I know that, Like I am just so nervous

1216
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: in this moment that I'm blanking. If he even said

1217
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: that it would been better, which again I think comes

1218
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: back to like, yeah, like emotional, like not quite able

1219
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: to put words to your feelings, right, And I think

1220
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: that it's like, yes, I'm sure, poor guy, he's probably

1221
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: the greatest, nicest guy and we never got to see

1222
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: that part of him. But um, you know it's like, yeah,

1223
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: I think that I think it was a good move

1224
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: for Claire to just be proactive and just say this,

1225
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: this just isn't gonna work, Like I'm gonna say, I'm

1226
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: gonna walk out. You know, I respected that move. Why

1227
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: do you think so it's for both of you? Though? Um,

1228
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: why do you think this was like that language was

1229
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: something for Claire that she was just right away like

1230
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: this is a sign, this is a red flag. I

1231
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: have to send you home now. Like why, out of

1232
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: everything that like the Joseph's of the world had been

1233
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: doing and saying and and everything that happened on night

1234
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: one and kind of the controversy that happened at the

1235
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: group date, why do you think that sit down with

1236
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: him was such a wait, you're gone, Like this is

1237
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 1: just it was just a demonstration of the emotional intelligence

1238
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: intelligence that he has and that it's needs a lot

1239
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: more maturing to catch up to her well. And I

1240
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: think she clarified that too. I think that she was like, listen,

1241
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: I I'm in a place in my life where I

1242
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: want more substance. If that's the only thing that you can.

1243
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she I think that she expressed herself,

1244
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: she explained where she was coming from, and yeah, I

1245
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: would never want to speak for her, but I do

1246
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: think that she she did clarify that to a small degree.

1247
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot more to it. Huh.

1248
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It was a it was a a big

1249
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: moment in this show because I came off of I

1250
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 1: watched this episode so Michelle. Last week on the podcast,

1251
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: we we had a couple of people on talking about

1252
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: all right, who is your favorites, and all the girls

1253
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: are like, oh, that Brandon. He's so cute, so good looking.

1254
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this week, I'm gonna watch Brandon, like,

1255
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on this guy because I feel like

1256
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: he's a front runner, right if everybody's loving on him.

1257
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: And so this was a big moment for me. When

1258
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, he gets to

1259
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: sit down. This is gonna be his shining moment. The

1260
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: music is gonna start playing the background, it's gonna be beautiful,

1261
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: and it's gonna and then all of suddens like, all right,

1262
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: he's going home, And I'm like, well, oh that was it.

1263
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: I remember remember this. Before that scene, he said that

1264
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: even night one, he got off to an awkward start

1265
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: and he wasn't proud of his solo time with her, Right, guy,

1266
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: just guys just freezing under the lights. Maybe we'll see

1267
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: him come back to paradise though, since physically he might

1268
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: be so desired. Yeah, yes, you're right, all right. So

1269
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: then I think the final thing we have to talk

1270
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: about is the strip date it was? So it was

1271
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: then I'm dying to know. This is what Ben has

1272
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: most to say about, So we'll let him take that over. Yeah, so,

1273
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: first off, shocking, I think we can all be cleared.

1274
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: There's a double standard right now. It's very very obvious

1275
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: double standard that was presented, and that I don't know

1276
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: if the show is trying to send a message saying, hey,

1277
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: there is an obvious double standard or not. But I

1278
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: this and like, let's for a second reverse course and say, Okay,

1279
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: if this was a Bachelor season, no way this happens,

1280
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: No way they get away with it, no way it's appropriate,

1281
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: no way that this is just becomes a weekly topic.

1282
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: This literally, this is the type of thing that I

1283
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: don't think the show. I think the show is super smart,

1284
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: but like they knew this wouldn't shut down the show.

1285
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: But like it's pushing the envelope here a little bit, right, Um,

1286
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: next is and and maybe because like outside of like, okay,

1287
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: the idea of this is kind of funny, Like I

1288
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 1: don't know the last like you can't even relate to

1289
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: this in the real world because like my buddies and

1290
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't get together together and get naked and play

1291
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: do so so you can't even say like, oh, this

1292
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: is like a fun like fun game that you can

1293
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: play with your friends. Here's my point to all of this.

1294
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: I personally and like I don't think like I have

1295
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: the worst body in the world. I work out hard

1296
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: to keep like in shape. Um, I do my best

1297
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: to stay fit. I am Eastern European, like I am

1298
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: as pale as pale can be from the waist down

1299
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: like there, and I have hair in places that I

1300
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: just said it on Chris's caption like that are not ideal. Um.

1301
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this going if you asked me

1302
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: to get naked with a bunch of ripped, buff, testosterone

1303
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: driven men and like play like dodgeball, there is nothing

1304
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: impressive about what's happening for me, and I would feel it.

1305
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no shot. There's no shot. I could

1306
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: have done it. You wouldn't have done it. I think

1307
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: I would have done it with the intention of winning,

1308
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: and then once it comes down to like all right,

1309
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: time to get naked, I would have said, hey, like no,

1310
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: like this is this is all funny games until like

1311
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: my buddies and I are naked on national television, like, okay,

1312
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, do you do you?

1313
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, because they were wearing something. They were wearing

1314
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: something and then they censored that out right. This is

1315
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: my like a jock strap, where I thought that they

1316
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: were wearing like a cup stuck to them. The way

1317
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: the actors do, it looks like maybe some of them

1318
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: just vited to go naked, and it looks like they

1319
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: have the sensor thing over it to make it look

1320
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: like they were naked, but they were clearly wearing something.

1321
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's better, I guess, but but I

1322
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: thought at the very end, one of the guys goes, okay,

1323
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: if you wanted to see it all, I'm gonna show

1324
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: you all think he just went for very confident man,

1325
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I'm the guy in the corner like

1326
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to and he's like, no, scut Like

1327
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: he obviously is very confident in what he has and

1328
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: what he wants to show. I watched this this Maybe

1329
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm crazy and maybe you guys can remind me, but

1330
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: this felt like it was pushing the envelope more than

1331
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: any other day I can remember on the Bachelor, and

1332
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: they pushed the envelope. Every season there's always that controversial

1333
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: thing that happens that goes, oh, next you know, next

1334
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: year it's not going to be as much or whatever.

1335
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: But like this felt, this felt like a lot okay.

1336
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that it wasn't there. The excuse here

1337
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 1: that it wasn't as my as we could make it

1338
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: is that it seemed playful. It didn't seem sexual, and

1339
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: it seemed like if there wasn't peer pressure involved. And

1340
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 1: this maybe just my viewing of it, it seems like

1341
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: if one of the guys was not okay, he could

1342
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: humorously be like, sorry, guys, gonna skip this one out

1343
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: and walked off. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you, Ashley.

1344
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: I think that, like I think, when you go on

1345
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: this show, there has to be and correct me if

1346
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm wrong then, But like from your perspective, like there

1347
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: there's always starts coming off for the guys, there's always

1348
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: some sort of like stuck. And I know that it's

1349
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: a different story when you're like censoring body parts and stuff.

1350
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: But it did seem like it was done in in

1351
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: fun and no one felt pressured except I guess if

1352
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: Yosef would have been there, he wouldn't have done it.

1353
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: And that's another thing too. It's when you have a

1354
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: child and it changes things, you know. Like I remember

1355
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: when I was on Bachelor Pad and it was this

1356
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: kissing contest and I was like, ah, I don't know

1357
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: if I want my daughter to see me kiss being like,

1358
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, fourteen guys in one day. So and but yeah,

1359
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be interesting to see how

1360
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: people respond to it and what people are feeling and

1361
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and um, how do you think Claire

1362
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: handled it? What do you what do you think of Claire?

1363
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: Kind of think Claire instigated it. I also don't think

1364
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: she like really gave praise to the guys who did it.

1365
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 1: I think she was like, these are guys being guys.

1366
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: And that's where the Yoseph thing is the issue where

1367
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: he says Claire was being tasteless for being okay with that,

1368
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: because I don't think Claire had anything to do with this.

1369
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: This was well what do you think? Well, I don't know, Ben,

1370
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: you tell us, like you've been in her position, Like,

1371
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: do you think she had the option to say like no,

1372
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable with them getting naked or she

1373
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: definitely did. Um, However, I get the playful side, so

1374
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: like I get like, hey, you know it's is just

1375
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: dodgeball or how can we make dodgeball more funny or

1376
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: fun now. I don't know if at the time she

1377
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: realized that, like the guys would own up to and

1378
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, screw it, I'll take it down to

1379
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: my whatever you want. Um, I don't So here's something

1380
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. And I don't know how, if how

1381
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: it will come off like I didn't watch this and

1382
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable or like as because but I did feel

1383
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: like it wasn't it wouldn't have been right if these

1384
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: guys if there was any peer pressure in it, and

1385
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: there was none, and they all agreed to it, like

1386
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: they all consented to say like you didn't see one

1387
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: guy go I don't really want to do this, Like

1388
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: I think if if that would have happened, she would

1389
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: have said, Okay, that's fair, like that's and I know

1390
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: Chris would have stepped in and said that's fine, like

1391
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: that's good. And so it was, and it was kind

1392
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: of just like an agreement amongst them all to say,

1393
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: let's see what happens and it but it's definitely gonna

1394
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,480
Speaker 1: be talked about and it's definitely going to be controversial,

1395
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: and you're right, it is a double standard around that,

1396
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: and UM, yeah, it'll be interesting to hear kind of

1397
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: some of the feedback people give. I would say, though,

1398
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: like this would not have been a dat I participated in,

1399
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: not because necessarily, like I even have a problem with

1400
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: the whole like get naked and run around thing like

1401
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know like personally, like if that's

1402
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,520
Speaker 1: wrong or right, I would have just been so uncomfortable,

1403
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: Like I those dudes are jacked. They're like just like

1404
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: ripped their their tan. They are, And I'm like, there's

1405
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: your Usian minded getting naked. They're probably like I haven't

1406
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: working out for this, like I'm here for Like I

1407
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: don't think anybody was bombed out about taking their clothes on.

1408
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: And I guess you say that you're like, Okay, well

1409
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: you can show off your entire body and everything you

1410
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: work for with the song on to take the song off.

1411
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: Then it goes into a whole other territory like I'm

1412
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: showing off my junk. Yeah. Well, and then I think

1413
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: it's really interesting that the producers like made them do

1414
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: their interviews like while they're holding their junk. How did

1415
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: you guys noticed that? Like, you're just like, all right,

1416
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: put the guy, poor Blake, let the guy get dressed,

1417
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, going back to the house without their clothes

1418
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: on and sitting there with a pillows. You're just like

1419
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: who has never been comfortable being around other people naked?

1420
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: So I know I wouldn't be okay with this date,

1421
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: But I also think I would have been the kind

1422
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: of person that just would have said, I don't really

1423
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: care if you guys think I'm a loser for not

1424
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: doing Yeah, I don't think I do. I just had

1425
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: a girls trip and we all played pickleball naked. We

1426
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: did have our tennis shoes on fish but it was

1427
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: not being videotaped, and it was not to watch it back.

1428
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to watch it back. Now. There

1429
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: are some things of some kind of more funny things.

1430
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: Now to close that note, it is going to be controversial.

1431
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on the subject. I think people

1432
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: are gonna have some really strong opinions. I think people

1433
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: are going to be uh offended. I think others are

1434
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna find it funny. I think some are just gonna

1435
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: find it weird. Um, and we'll be interested to hear

1436
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: kind of how that plays out. However, there is some

1437
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: more humorous stuff to this, Like I don't know why

1438
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: I find this funny. It's kind of sad. But like Blake,

1439
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: who is like almost in tears, who's super upset and

1440
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: sad that these have a date with Claire is standing

1441
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: outside covering his junk having this like super intimate interview

1442
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: as all I can see is just having his hands

1443
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: over his balls, and it's so sad to watch. But

1444
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: you know that producers are like just one more, a

1445
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: little cut and then you can go get dressed, like

1446
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: just one more, you know, and you're just like, poor guy.

1447
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: I have to mention Blake before we go ble. You know,

1448
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: he made a big splash last week for being open

1449
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: about communicating with Claire earlier before the season started. She liked.

1450
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: This week he was like, I'm going to continue to

1451
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: not play by the rules, which I respected, because I

1452
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: don't think for Claire she wants a guy who's going

1453
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: to play by the rules because she wants the but

1454
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: you to pursue her so hard, like we were talking

1455
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: about before, So when he comes and crashes that date

1456
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: even though his team didn't win, you know, the evening

1457
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: part of the date, I was like, nope, I think

1458
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: Claire's gonna like this. Of course the guys are going

1459
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: to you know, be up in arms about it, but

1460
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: I think this is going to teach them all lesson that.

1461
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: Claire's go it's all about you pursue me in any

1462
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: way you can figure out. I don't care whether or

1463
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: not it's for the rules or what. Um. I think

1464
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: it was really really cool that she didn't kiss him.

1465
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: I thought that it said a lot about like where

1466
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: her energy was at with the guys that won. I mean,

1467
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: I thought that's a that was a bold move because

1468
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: he really went in for it and she was clearly

1469
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: like not now. And then I thought, um, I think

1470
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: that she was just put in a bad position because

1471
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: I think at the end of I think at the

1472
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: end of the day, and we all know that because

1473
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: he got the rose is I think that she really

1474
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: appreciates that and like it. But I think that out

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: of respect for the guys that she was with, she

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: stirred her ground, which is again, you guys, like, what

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01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: is so amazing about Claire is like she doesn't compromise,

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01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: She doesn't she she's really able to like set clear

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01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: boundaries and be respectful and mindful of everyone involved um

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: and own her truth like she owned it. And so

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool that she didn't let

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01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: him kiss her. As far as being the ringmaster of

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: all of this, she's handling it like a total pro,

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01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: like she knows what to do in every situation. Yeah,

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01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: she's been really great. I mean she's had some experience,

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01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: so it helps, right, you know, like it literally does. Yeah,

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: it does. Now the final thought before we let you go, Michelle,

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01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: I noticed something that I found to be one of

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: the Bachelor funnies that I just have to point out

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: because I'm really proud of myself for like finding this.

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: So Joseph goes off and he's pretty upset about the

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: dodgeball day and again like a very little opinion on

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: on that it's gonna be interesting to hear how people react.

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01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: But he's talking about I cannot believe that these guys

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01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: like got naked, they took off their shirts, they took

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01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: off whatever for this dodgeball day, and and the voiceover

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01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: is happening as he has his shirt off putting on

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01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: his dress shirt for the evening portion of the day,

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, the Bachelor is so good

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01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: because that is just like who knows how that's gonna

1501
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: be caught. But he's literally shirtless putting on his shirt

1502
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: as the voice overs like, I can't believe these guys

1503
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: got shirtless contradiction. It was also funny because if we're

1504
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: going to call out like a little bit of editing play,

1505
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: there was a time where she was like, I'm thinking

1506
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: about Chasing, I'm thinking about um whoever else was on

1507
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: that second date, and then she goes, I'm thinking about Dale,

1508
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: and you're like, you definitely added that in there because

1509
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: she was talking specifically about the guys on that group day.

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh no, let's just think it

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01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: seems like she's never not thinking about Dale exactly. Well,

1512
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: you're right, she isn't. I am so excited for next week,

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: for this next episode, Michelle, you're the best. Thanks for

1514
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: coming on again, Thank you corner or something, because she

1515
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: just has the best feedback, and you know Claire, so

1516
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: personally that's it's, oh my gosh. Well I'm so happy

1517
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: for her and I'm so glad to be on the show.

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: So anytime calling. Thanks by al Right, Ben, before we

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: sign off, should we break? Should we have a break? There? No,

1520
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: because we have two spots, and do we only have

1521
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: two spots? Guys to break four? Okay, so we did?

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: We did two already, two breaks? Yeah, well one break

1523
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: has two spots. Okay, okay, Well, but before we wrap

1524
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: up the podcast, you know what time it is, Ben,

1525
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: It's time for you to share a story that you

1526
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: didn't tell in your book. So today we are going

1527
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: to be talking about the time that you fell under

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: a bus on your first day of school. Oh that's

1529
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, we can tell this one. Man.

1530
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: They're just gonna get more and more intimate every week,

1531
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: and and I'm not gonna hold anything back. I feel

1532
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: like this is a safe space. We have our loyal listeners,

1533
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: some of which are very kind, some of which not

1534
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: so much. But all of them are gonna hear it,

1535
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 1: and they're gonna to judge themselves. So this is an

1536
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: easy story. I'm an only child, as you do know.

1537
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, my very first day of school was

1538
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: obviously a big day for me, but also my parents

1539
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: is my very it's the very first day that their

1540
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: kid is going to school. And my mom decides to

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01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: put me on the bus for my first day of

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01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: school because this is something that she wanted me to

1543
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: get in the habit of. She also wanted me to

1544
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: mingle with other kids from all the different neighborhoods, and

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: so I was excited for she was excited for it.

1546
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: L on my on the when the bus comes down

1547
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: the lane. I still remember these moments, so excited to

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01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: see my mom after a day of school. And the

1549
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: bus would come around the corner and there would be

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: my house. My mom would be standing um outside kind

1551
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: of waiting for me. But on this day she had

1552
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: like her photo or her camera with her and uh,

1553
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: and she was taking a picture of me getting off

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: the bus. And I'm so excited to get off the

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: bus and tell my mom. By my first day school,

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01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: I still remember this moment. I had my purple backpack

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01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: on that I'm running off the bus and I missed

1558
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: the last step and I fall ashley flat on my

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01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: face out of the bus. And there's a picture of

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01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: me that my mom took, just like sprawled out, face

1561
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: on the ground, backpack in the air, on my very

1562
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: first day of school. It's a sad story, one that's

1563
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: still with me still sits with me, so you didn't

1564
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: get like you weren't under the bus in the sense

1565
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: that you were getting rolled run over by No. No, no,

1566
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: we talked about getting hit by a car uh last week.

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01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: Um no, I've only been hit by one car walking.

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01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: So this was just me getting under the bus and

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01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: having uh and having a picture taken of me as

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01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: I flew off. So that's the second story. I think

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01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: we probably have like three or four more to go. Um,

1572
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: there's gonna be stories about rashes, there's gonna be stories

1573
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: about like my problems toilet paper. Uh. Yeah, you're private.

1574
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: Uh if you if you're down with that, we have

1575
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: a couple of stories about your private area. It's gonna

1576
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: be a while. It's gonna be a wild couple of weeks.

1577
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: And uh and if you don't listen to almost as

1578
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: podcast at the very end, you're never gonna hear it.

1579
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: So you gotta come back and join Ashley and I

1580
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: as we talked about Claire's third episode next week with

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01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: some great guests. Ashley and I will be here obviously

1582
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. Thanks for joining us. Another great week

1583
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette. Tune in uh next week, same time,

1584
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: same place. With that I've been been by guys. Followed

1585
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.