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Speaker 1: Story Time with the legendary Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Y'all see, I'm already in laughing mode because I'm here

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Speaker 3: with New Faith. It might be one of the episodes.

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Speaker 3: It might because me and this dude have been We

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Speaker 3: literally have been doing this for years. We literally Jon,

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Speaker 3: we literally talked ship. So with all that saying, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to let y'all know, I ain't got to

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Speaker 3: do no big, huge introduction because this man his accolades.

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Speaker 3: I want to get him while he here New fans.

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Speaker 3: I want to get him his bouquet of flowers, you know,

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Speaker 3: the bouquet of roses.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I want to introduce this week story time with legendary Jerry.

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Speaker 3: We got my partner here, mister Jock.

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Speaker 2: You oh, I'm like not like with oh geez, It's like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how you doing man? How's everything going?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Look, let me tell you something for you all that

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Years years ago, I had I had a storytelling with

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Speaker 3: legend a j before a partner that with iHeart and

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Speaker 3: took this podcast hold their left and Jock was one

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Speaker 3: of the first people New Face to come on and

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Speaker 3: we talked ship. Then we go talk shit again. To

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Speaker 3: day because it's a lot to talk about music wise,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot.

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Speaker 4: And since then he made more history.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm still I feel like a headlines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've watched him new face, you know it. I

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna say it's hard because we talk a lot

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Speaker 3: of it, but I watched him and always tell him

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Speaker 3: his progression from artists, entrepreneur, businessman to having the number

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Speaker 3: one radio.

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Speaker 1: She's like, come on, man, people just don't that just.

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Speaker 2: Ain't in the same city.

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Speaker 3: Man, that just ain't something you do. And it's It's

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Speaker 3: interesting because when he first got on the air, I

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Speaker 3: talked to him. He said, hey, man, what you think?

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Speaker 1: What you think? I said, and it ain't that good.

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Speaker 5: Man, I said that didn't like that, but you know,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, It sounds it sounds like

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Speaker 5: they just pulled you off the street.

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Speaker 1: Not even a year later, I hit him, I say, bro,

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Speaker 1: I said, you sound like a radio personality.

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Speaker 2: You know what sounds like that.

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Speaker 6: I got the text and I made a plaque. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna make sure I give you that. I wish I

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Speaker 6: would have been able to have it today, to produce

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Speaker 6: it today, but you asked me something truth Now because

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Speaker 6: because it wasn't even like what it sounds like. He

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Speaker 6: was like, so is this a one off?

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to okay, trying you out, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, it's different when somebody just trying

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Speaker 6: to pick your situation, like just kind of feel oh,

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Speaker 6: when you know someone is in your corner and just

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Speaker 6: have concerns this question that he was like, so this

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Speaker 6: is this, this is what you're doing. He's like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 6: it's because I can tell you.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, I feel like, you know, you're my boy.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you.

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Speaker 6: You know it's like and it sounds like you just

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Speaker 6: like you're just getting into it. I was like, I am,

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Speaker 6: but just give me some time. They would't hit me back.

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Speaker 2: You know. It was that the mall looked at like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you must have got a freaking text.

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Speaker 6: I was like, nah, hold look because I was smiling,

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Speaker 6: happy because I was happy.

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Speaker 2: But you know when the dude looking at their phone look.

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Speaker 1: Up that that that's that joint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was and I was, and I really

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Speaker 3: to it, of course that was years ago.

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Speaker 1: New face. I'm like, this dude is really good just

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Speaker 1: to watch you. You know, you're like a comedian man.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you do, you're good. You know.

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Speaker 3: I know it's probably other stuff you be like nah no,

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Speaker 3: But from what I've seen from the years we been

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Speaker 3: knowing each other, you know, and I know the relationship

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Speaker 3: we have. Like even when you had your own label,

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Speaker 3: you said, you said, yeah, you one of the first

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Speaker 1: When you had the flyers, it was like an old

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Speaker 2: Was dope. Yeah, I feel like I was doing some

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Speaker 1: Did you purchase that?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's crazy. It was a historical fire station.

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Speaker 6: I think it was fire station number fifteen on Marie

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Speaker 6: o the Street right next thumbs up. And when I

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Speaker 6: when I initially signed the least well no, you know,

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Speaker 6: I knew that because it gave me some of the

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Speaker 6: historical rundown. But the building was only worth about it

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Speaker 6: was estimated about six hundred thousand. Within a year's time,

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Speaker 6: the tax jump boom because they made it the Lucky

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Speaker 6: are you know, let's be for real. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 6: when the city has their own plans or developers have

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Speaker 6: purchased this land that unbeknownst to us, we don't know

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Speaker 6: property values about the Skyrocket extra two three hundred thousand

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Speaker 6: because and your tax is going to do that too.

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Speaker 6: And they do that for a reason because it takes time.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a whole process.

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Speaker 2: And it was like, yeah, it's become a lucky district

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Speaker 2: of like what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like it was like, yeah, so the property is worth

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Speaker 6: like nine hundred ninety nine thousands, like I mean dollars.

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Speaker 6: So what that means for me? It was like if

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Speaker 6: you want to yeah, if you want to purchase it,

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Speaker 6: and that would be the time. I was like no,

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Speaker 6: I would I should have purchased it when I first.

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Speaker 6: So then they was like, yo, well if you purchased

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Speaker 6: the building, you get thumbs up too.

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Speaker 2: Whoa in that parking lot? And I was like hell

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Speaker 2: yeah right, But then here was this was twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was just like twelve.

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Speaker 6: So at that moment, I'm like, oh, I owned that

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Speaker 6: too for my portfolio. I felt like that would look good,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But when you step back

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, wait, but at that point, I own

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Speaker 6: this building now, so I'm difference. I take one hundred responsibility,

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Speaker 6: but then I also become a landlord.

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Speaker 2: For this restaurant. Oh.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, and I just didn't

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Speaker 6: feel like it was Uh now, if I knew, if

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Speaker 6: I had known what I know now, you.

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Speaker 1: Would have kept that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because you've seen it now. You go

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Speaker 2: right down the street, whoever whoever virgils.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not even to give them a plug, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I believe in that. It's they did it.

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Speaker 2: They came up. But see, you know, I remember going

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Speaker 6: Studio on that, we could not we could not nail

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Speaker 6: or do anything with the existing structure. You hit the brick.

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Speaker 6: The ship turned into the like I'm not buying this

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Speaker 6: ship four million dollars, you know. But of course, you

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Speaker 6: know there are ways around things. Bringing the architect and

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Speaker 6: and and that's what they did over that, So good

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Speaker 6: job for them. I just I just I just felt

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, you know, I won't do something else,

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Speaker 3: It was it's we just I just mentioned this off camera,

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Speaker 3: but I want to say this on camera to everybody watching.

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Speaker 3: You know, you, you and you in the media alive

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Speaker 3: from saying being jiyed some people consider it controversial. You

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Speaker 3: just say what's on your mind, how you feel. And

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Speaker 3: I noticed, like when I'm on social media under these

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Speaker 3: big blocks, you know.

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Speaker 1: People be really really like acting like that you ain't

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Speaker 1: got like no discography and like, like.

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Speaker 7: Man, y'all motherfuckers with with some respect on Jock's name,

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Speaker 7: Like I just be reading some of the commons new

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Speaker 7: faces like y'all like this man had one record even

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Speaker 7: if he did, like y'all want to hear trying to

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Speaker 1: And I just want to tell you, I'd be like, man,

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Speaker 1: y'all better put some respect on this man. Damn this man.

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Speaker 3: Got records, his own features, like you like, come on, man,

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Speaker 3: like that shit fucks with me.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Part that that gets me is the part that the

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Speaker 4: people that they do celebrate don't be outside like him,

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Speaker 4: don't do it. He doing the community, and it's like,

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Speaker 4: y'all celebrate that, and like you said, this brother, not

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Speaker 4: even the music part, what he does in the community

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Speaker 4: and for the people in the city of Atlanta when

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Speaker 4: he comes out, the people come out and everybody benefits

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Speaker 4: from there, Why that's not celebrated to you.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's definitely factual New Face. But the like

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Speaker 3: the like music part when people be saying that ship,

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Speaker 3: I like you got this because I know you gotta

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Speaker 3: be like, come on, bro, Like, do y'all not know

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Speaker 3: that I I'm more than just like like I've had

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Speaker 3: like so millions of records, my own records, I featured

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Speaker 1: I'm a lab artists.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: The funniest part for that about that for me is, man, bro,

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Speaker 6: I don't be giving a ship about what nobody it

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Speaker 6: just like, well, you know what, here's a difference. You know,

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Speaker 6: It's like, are you willing to fight for this? That's

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Speaker 6: the difference. I wasn't willing to fight for a title.

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Speaker 6: I didn't care a title to be considered one of

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Speaker 6: the greats or legendary or that guy or number one or.

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Speaker 2: Self proclaimed clan king or self proclaimed boss.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't into none of that. I just be like,

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Speaker 6: what you know for me? When I when I started

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Speaker 6: to realize, like I don't want to say something wasn't

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Speaker 6: You know how I say music wasn't working for me anymore,

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Speaker 6: or you would say in your field, respectfully, your music

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Speaker 6: wasn't really working for me.

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Speaker 2: No more.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I was working for music anymore, because

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Speaker 6: music is just the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 2: It's just one of the things. Yeah, that was That

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Speaker 6: Moment I stepped back for a minute, and uh, I

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Speaker 6: was looking. I was searching for clarity, do you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean? Like it was just like you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting around looking at all my counterparts. I'm looking

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Speaker 6: at my t I S my gz's your gu cheese.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, mmm, like what am I doing? What

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Speaker 2: do I know?

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Speaker 6: I just started realizing, like I'm not willing to exploit

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Speaker 6: certain sectors of my life for that look, because I

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Speaker 6: felt like I was always tied some other things that

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to ship light on.

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Speaker 4: But then you still have passion for the music making.

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Speaker 2: I did, Okay, I did, aspect of it wasn't necessarily conflicted.

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Speaker 6: It was like I got enough money, enough pull enough relationships,

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Speaker 6: So so long story short, you know, I'm just going

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Speaker 6: And so when you open the cache, it was always

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Speaker 2: I remember that because I used to I was like,

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Speaker 6: But now it's such a demand for podcast that when

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Speaker 2: So that's how I ended up in TV and radio.

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Speaker 3: Because I remember, you know, we both everybody you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody, and I don't care. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: We both had many many peaks making being financial, we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what when you was down? What is one financial

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Speaker 1: Because I have somebody to tell my kids, like y'all

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Speaker 2: I would tell anyone.

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Speaker 6: You know, when it comes to the whole concept of

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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And I think sometimes we don't

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Speaker 6: us with the whole mixtape game, we saw his rise

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Speaker 2: I follow the same strategy, I can get that to you.

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Speaker 2: So what happened our.

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Speaker 6: Exactly? And what did we do? Somebody sat back and said,

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Speaker 2: And now here it is? Think about it like.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of doing your research and the transition that

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Speaker 6: You Yeah, I'm gonna keep it all the way one hundred, right,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep it funck me with you. So when

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Speaker 6: it came to the music, you know, I was rocking

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Speaker 6: And that was by way of, you know, my origins

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Speaker 2: You know. I kind of felt like I had a

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Speaker 2: So when I saw JD, I was like, he's very

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Speaker 6: He's a It was a tangible, blunt prospect for me

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Speaker 6: Then after that, of course Block introducing me to Diddy.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of like, yo, I don't know, like

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, well because it was like here I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm gonna be honest, I think if JD would

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Speaker 2: But it went the other way. So I went with Diddy, right.

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Speaker 6: So you know, throughout the throughout the the course of

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Speaker 6: So for me, it was even more tangible and more

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Speaker 6: to and said to myself that how would he do this?

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Speaker 6: It from a not a like, oh, oh my god, this

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Speaker 2: I always approached it from a we're gonna either.

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Speaker 2: What would Daddy do? You know what I'm saying, it's

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Speaker 6: So, you know, even going into radio or TV, I

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Speaker 6: Making the Band. I was like, Yo, if I ever

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Speaker 2: I got with Diddy Boom. I watched Love and Hip Hop.

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Speaker 6: Mmm, you know, and I said to myself, I ever

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Speaker 6: and I was like, if I ever get into radio,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go this way. So when the opportunity came about, Yo, shit,

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Speaker 2: here we are here.

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Speaker 3: Later, I want to I want to circle go back

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Speaker 3: a step. You mentioned linking over Blocking Puff, right you

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Speaker 1: From a strictly business standpoint, was it good business with them?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 6: It's so crazy. So when it came to Diddy, we

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: It was one of those things like it was so

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Speaker 6: early on, soon as I got with Blocked, it wasn't No,

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Speaker 6: it wasn't a long run with Block. Initially it was like, Yo,

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, let's talk about it, sit down

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Speaker 2: I'm laying in the bed. I just took my wife

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Speaker 6: I'm laying in the bed listening to the radio, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, if I'm gonna rock with somebody, I need

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I might rock with Block.

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Speaker 6: So when the time came, like my man's fresh, put

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Speaker 6: me with Carlmo, Calmo, put me with Block. It made

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00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 6: me look at the situation like, Okay, I'm gonna be

443
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Speaker 6: honest with you.

444
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Speaker 2: Man.

445
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 6: In the beginning, everything was just happening fast, streamline. It

446
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 6: wasn't no, it wasn't a bumpy ride. I think I

447
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 6: had already kind of went through the turbulence getting that

448
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 6: once I landed on this particular you know, you go

449
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 6: from one airport to another. When I when I took

450
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 6: the independent route, that flight was the bumpy rock. When

451
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 6: I landed and got to the commercial or the international

452
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 6: ad space, it was a different It was a different

453
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 6: flight because it was like all right, it was it

454
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 6: wasn't no.

455
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: It was kind of like no time and no room

456
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 2: for the fuck ups.

457
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 6: And uh so by the time I looked up, bro,

458
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 6: we was on and popping. I was already like for real,

459
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 6: for real, financially stable.

460
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Once thing slowed down, that you pull it back.

461
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 6: No, things didn't slow down, that's the thing. Things didn't

462
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 6: slow down, Jared. What happened was I started to realize

463
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 6: that people around me weren't taking in consideration of the

464
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 6: concepts of how I got here.

465
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: I didn't get here.

466
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 6: It was people like you know, it was like you

467
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 6: know Block who was like, no, we're gonna do things

468
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 6: like this, and I'm like, Yo, this ain't how I

469
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 6: got here.

470
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: I gotcha creatively. Are you talking about from a business now?

471
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: Business creatively as well? So let's think about it.

472
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 6: Let's say you this your studio, you been your studio, right,

473
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: and this ain't the bash Block, you know, I'm not

474
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 6: with none of that, but I'm gonna tell my truth wholeheartedly.

475
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: Definitely legendary.

476
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: G please believe it.

477
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: Car Jock.

478
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: If this was your studio, right and I got.

479
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 6: To deal with you and you getting a deal from

480
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 6: your deals with the label, we all deal with the label,

481
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 6: but the label's gonna cut.

482
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: The check to you.

483
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 6: You're going to be like, yeah, you recording everything here,

484
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 6: and I'm like, let me tell you something. This ain't

485
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 6: even what I want to be in every day, you know.

486
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 6: I mean, hey, like, don't don't don't take me out

487
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 6: to eat.

488
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Every day, Like I don't want that.

489
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 6: Sometimes I only sometimes I want to eat at the house.

490
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 6: Sometimes I want to eat. I want to I might

491
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: not want a five course meal. Today, you know what

492
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And it was because kind of one of

493
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 6: those things. I was like, Yo, I want to change

494
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 6: my synergy, bro. I want to be in places where

495
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 6: other artists come into. I want to go record at

496
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: a patchwork, you know, I want to record.

497
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: A silent sounds. You know what I'm saying.

498
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 6: I want to go over there with tip them and record.

499
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 6: Like I wanted to do different things. I want to

500
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 6: go to Miami record. And it was always like no,

501
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 6: we're gonna call it right here. And it started turning

502
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 6: to like, yo, like you know you got kids. Yeah, yeah,

503
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 6: I got kids too. You know you're married. I'm married

504
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 6: to you know. You pay taxes. I pay tax to

505
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 6: You're not gonna sign me my nigga. You can't bee

506
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: on me like I don't give a funk about what

507
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 6: no deals say or because we could change the narrative.

508
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 6: But I'll be fine with that. I made it to you,

509
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 6: you didn't make.

510
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: It to me.

511
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: The street ship.

512
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was two incidents in the in the span

513
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 6: of dealing with Block where three what things could have

514
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 6: gone before.

515
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: Because you know we as as as.

516
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 6: About to say six, No, I was gonna it's funny

517
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 6: you say six because you feel me. You saw me

518
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 6: about the former S word, a word that starts with

519
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 6: as suppression. I had to suppress a lot of things

520
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 6: because it could have gone different places. Just being straight up,

521
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And you know, I just

522
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 6: I never forget, like having a real serious situation that

523
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 6: took place amongst you know, people that Block entertainment against

524
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 6: my man Chino Doll and some other ship was going on.

525
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: And sometimes Bro, like.

526
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 6: You might be a front line man, I'm a front lineman,

527
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 6: hell front land front lineman. Right, but we got to

528
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 6: do We got them homies that's riding for us, and

529
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 6: they're not looking at the politics of it.

530
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: Then not understanding they.

531
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Speaker 1: What what what?

532
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 6: What?

533
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: What happened? He said, what?

534
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah?

535
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 6: So I just remember one day, crazy situation something that

536
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 6: kind of took place where.

537
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: Gucci this, Me and Miss B and Block in the

538
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: song and we got past that. Then Miss b ends

539
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: up dissing Zoe.

540
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: Grill the time, right, But it was so divided because

541
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 6: I just didn't think that Block understood how to properly

542
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 6: leverage what he really had. And so I guess Zoe

543
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 6: felt like he was gonna, you know, pull up at

544
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: Chino House with some of the block's goons, but not

545
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 6: knowing where little Birdie was already in play boot.

546
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: So you know, somebody hit my line.

547
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 6: I'm like, whoa that that don't that don't need to

548
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 6: happen because they pull up over that it's gonna be

549
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 6: x y Z and not saying that block people weren't

550
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 6: equipped to do whatever because they was.

551
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be straight up. These niggas who don't.

552
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 6: Got gun, Okay, anybody can shoot you know, excuse my language,

553
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: but retard the motherfucker shoot you. And you know, so

554
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: I put the call in like, yo, I don't know

555
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 6: what's going on, but y'all need to live, Like, oh,

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: we ain't even at the house, Like well, I think

557
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 6: some niggas wanna pull up to the house.

558
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, really, we're.

559
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 6: Coming off a move right now, so we're on some

560
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: other ship already. So when they pull up, niggas is

561
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 6: in front of Chinino House. When niggas pull up, when

562
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 6: they pull up, it was like, Yo, what's going on?

563
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 6: Niggas is in a van pulling up in a van

564
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 6: with sticks type ship. You know what I'm saying. And

565
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 6: I don't even think Zol was really trying to go

566
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 6: over there to cross them lines. I think it was

567
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: more like, bro, what we're doing.

568
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: It was more like it WASO's camp versus your camp.

569
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 6: And nah, it was more like Zol with Blocks camp

570
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: pulling up to Chino camp.

571
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: It was my camp.

572
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 6: But he didn't have no problem with me, so to say.

573
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: He was trying to go out for the whole thing

574
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 6: with ms B and Gino because blocking Chino was at

575
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 6: UDS and I'm on PaperWorks.

576
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I remember, I'm trying to keep trying to

577
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: remember on the streets when they was at.

578
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 6: Long story short, the whole meetup of Zo and Chino

579
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 6: went a particular way.

580
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: It was actually very calm and chill im.

581
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 6: But it came back to Block like it was Ryan

582
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 6: and some ship got handled. But I happened to be

583
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 6: on the phone, so I heard it all. And I

584
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 6: pull up to the studio and I hear Niggas is like,

585
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 6: oh you know we had the Doo do do And

586
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 6: I just was like, I was peaceful, like I ain't

587
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 6: know nothing about it.

588
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I went in the studio, well you know what it.

589
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 6: Is, man, I can't even say cappin sometimes man, when you.

590
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: You're younger, you're influenced.

591
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: By this whole machine of I'm gonna turn you into this,

592
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna change your life, or I've already changed your life.

593
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 6: I've already turned your zeros into comas and dancinals.

594
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: You know, people gonna ride house, so respectfully.

595
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 6: Whatever it was, and I just remember somebody want to

596
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 6: approve a point for me and Chino. And I was

597
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 6: pulling up to the studio with my daughter and Cheno said, hey,

598
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 6: don't pull up.

599
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: I said why.

600
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 6: He said, Man, these young niggas are not listening. I said,

601
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: what you mean? He like, I think you about to

602
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 6: go down. I was like, what the fuck you mean?

603
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: A pun intended it's going down.

604
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: So when I look up the street, I'm like, I'm

605
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 6: about to pull up to the studio now. He said,

606
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 6: don't go up there. I said why, I'm right here,

607
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 6: studio on my left. I said, a car come on

608
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 6: the street, no lights on. He said, bro, if you're smart,

609
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: don't pull up because I think these young niggas are

610
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: not listening to what we're talking about, and I think

611
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 6: they're about to woo whoop. Then I hear a young

612
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 6: nigga call us fun he said, hold on, he put

613
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 6: me on. He're like, yo, we about to do I

614
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: see the niggas out there, and now they out there

615
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 6: with Block, got there with the brawl and some more niggas.

616
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: I'm about to wake this motherfucker up. And I just

617
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: remember seeing back like, Bro, this can't go down like.

618
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: And this was this was early on in your in

619
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: your career.

620
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 6: And I'm being honest, you know, and this ain't no no,

621
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 6: I'm trying to play tough guy like we were just gangsters,

622
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 6: but niggas was affiliated with some real street ship and

623
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 6: I was just like, they can't do it. Even though

624
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: I wasn't in the gate. I told them on the far,

625
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: I said, bro, we already in the gate with my daughter.

626
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: And I've seen them niggas pull on paternal lights on them,

627
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 6: pull on off.

628
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Is there any relationship with Block right now to this day.

629
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Seen Block at the fifty years of hip hop thing?

630
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: Say that? And it's interesting because when I walk in

631
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: back be Bank like right, wait, God, put some together,

632
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: you know.

633
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: I'm trying to see how everybody goes stand on where

634
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: they stand up going in that room because it's a bunch.

635
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Speaker 2: Of people in here.

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