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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday. And man, if there were only some

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Speaker 2: things we had to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: A bridge collapsed. We're about to talk about that. I

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Speaker 1: will actually have a shipping expert on about a half

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Speaker 1: hour from now help you and me understand a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about that industry. But we'll address that, will

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Speaker 1: address the theories surrounding it, will address the communist response

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Speaker 1: to it. Yes, we're gonna talk about office space empty

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Speaker 1: in America's cities. We're gonna talk about America running out

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Speaker 1: of juice. NBC fired Ronald McDaniel. We have so much

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Speaker 1: to get to you tonight on the world famous Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. I want to obviously begin here. What else

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Speaker 1: could you possibly begin with? You woke up to the

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Speaker 1: same news I woke up to this morning. Roll over,

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Speaker 1: say I to the wife, kind of grab your phone,

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Speaker 1: shake the cobwebs out, make sure the world didn't come

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Speaker 1: to an end while you were asleep. And what's this?

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Speaker 1: There's a bridge in Baltimore that went down. How big

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Speaker 1: of a bridge? What it's the Francis Scott Cay Bridge

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Speaker 1: it's over.

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Speaker 3: A mile long.

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Speaker 1: And then we all have seen the video of it.

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Speaker 1: A large ship, a cargo ship, runs into the bridge,

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Speaker 1: the bridge collapses, people dead. Now I am going to

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Speaker 1: deal with the specifics, the nitty gritty of shipping and

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Speaker 1: ports and things like that, with our expert here in

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Speaker 1: I want to discuss this story in a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different way. Institutions. Let's talk about the institutions

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Speaker 1: of a nation. What are they? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: The institutions of a nation. Well, whether you're a small

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Speaker 1: tribe or a large, powerful country, you will have institutions,

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Speaker 1: and those institutions will really decide the direction of the country.

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Speaker 1: An institution can be media. It could be how information

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Speaker 1: is disseminated in any society, whether it's a tiny tribe

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Speaker 1: we have men on horseback, or whether or not it's CNN,

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Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Chow. How is information disseminated in your society?

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Speaker 1: Who is disseminating the information? Media is an institution. Religion

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Speaker 1: is an institution, Your government is an institution. The national

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Speaker 1: security apparatus that's an institution. The education system that's an institution,

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Speaker 1: and if these institutions are good and they're led by

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Speaker 1: good people who feel like they have a duty to

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Speaker 1: the country, and they want to their merit based and

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Speaker 1: they want to produce the best of the best. If

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Speaker 1: you have a nation with strong institutions, you will have

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Speaker 1: a strong nation. If you have a nation with bad institutions,

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Speaker 1: well that's going to mean bad, very bad things for

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Speaker 1: your country. Do you remember do you remember the vaccine

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Speaker 1: being safe and effective? Just stay with me, Stay with me.

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Speaker 1: It's going to come back to the bridge. You remember that, right,

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Speaker 1: the lies and how pervasive the lies were. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation? Remember that? Look,

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Speaker 1: we could do this all night. You already understand where

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Speaker 1: I'm going with this. We have been warning about the

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Speaker 1: loss of institutional trust on this show for a very

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Speaker 1: very very very very long time. The American institutions and

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Speaker 1: the American people are separating from each other. And that's

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Speaker 1: not the fault of the American people. That is one

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Speaker 1: thousand percent the fault of the institutions themselves. It's not

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Speaker 1: as if our institutions are just kind of dumb, maybe

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Speaker 1: a little corrupt. Over the years, you me, we've come

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Speaker 1: to realize many of our institutions are actually hostile to us,

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Speaker 1: working against us. And I've been how many times have

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Speaker 1: you heard me sit behind this microphone and warn that

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Speaker 1: that is going to create a huge problem for the country.

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Speaker 1: And one of the major reasons it's going to create

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Speaker 1: a huge problem for the country is what if something

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Speaker 1: say that? What if there is a natural disaster, What

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Speaker 1: What if there is a big thing that happens. And

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Speaker 1: a big thing is always going to happen, right, eventually,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a big thing. Well, if a

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Speaker 1: honest with you, nothing can be dismissed. Nothing can be dismissed.

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Speaker 1: And why can't it be dismissed if I tell you

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Speaker 1: And here's what happened. The Chinese they were working in

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Speaker 1: conjunction with Venezuela and George Soros himself and Tyson Chicken,

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Speaker 1: and they all came up with a conspiracy. They all

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Speaker 1: came up with a with an operation. And the operation

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Speaker 1: was designed to shut down the Port of Baltimore to

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Speaker 1: help China's chicken industry and help Tyson as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: something crazy like that. If I were to come up

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Speaker 1: with something like that, you may call me nuts. You

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Speaker 1: probably should call me nuts. But what you absolutely cannot do,

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Speaker 1: and this is the problem. What you cannot do is

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Speaker 1: you cannot go shoot down my claims by citing any

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Speaker 1: official sources in the United States of America. And that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. The official sources can't be trusted. Therefore, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing nobody you could bring to me. There's no official

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Speaker 1: foods in China and Venezuela, that's a little ridiculous. Come on,

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Speaker 1: how could you say that? But after all, the FBI

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Speaker 4: T FBI on very first looking at and assessing this

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Speaker 4: that there is no specific or credible information to suggest

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Speaker 4: that there are ties to terrorism in this incident. The

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Speaker 1: Now, how can you trust that it's the FBI. The

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Speaker 1: FBI has been attacking and lying to the American people

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Speaker 1: for years now, And I want to be clear, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe this is terrorism either. I believe from all

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Speaker 1: believe this is a series of things gone really, really poorly,

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Speaker 1: and this is a gigantic ship that has the destructive

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Speaker 1: power of a bomb, and things went bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I believe. However, if you believe something different, if

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Speaker 1: it was a secret CIA plot in conjunction with the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration to pass a new infrastructure bill, what I

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Speaker 1: absolutely cannot do is point a finger at you and

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Speaker 1: say no, it is it. You deranged conspiracy theorist. Quit

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Speaker 1: being a nut job, get off the internet. How could

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Speaker 1: I possibly tell you that when I don't have any

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Speaker 1: official institutions I can trust either. Whatever your crackpot theory is,

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Speaker 1: I really can't call it crackpot, now, can I? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't live in a country where I have institutions

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. That is a tragedy. What happen.

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Speaker 1: The loss of life is a tragedy. The loss of money,

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Speaker 1: not just for Baltimore, for America is a tragedy. The

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Speaker 1: bridge being gone as a tragedy. Shoot, the increased traffic

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Speaker 1: all bad. It's all really really, really really bad. But

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Speaker 1: about it this way. What if? What if instead of

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Speaker 1: six miles it's a very long bridge. Stack traffic up,

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Speaker 1: bumper to bumper. Not at all unheard of on the

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Speaker 1: Francis Scott Key Bridge at eight thirty am, bumper to

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Speaker 1: bumper traffic. I'm not a mathematician. In fact, I'm a moron.

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Speaker 1: But what is that thousand people on that bridge? Chris

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Speaker 1: we having today? The water was thirty degrees. If a

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Speaker 1: the crisis is not specifically a bridge going into the water.

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Speaker 1: The crisis is we don't have institutions anymore we can

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Speaker 1: ever trust to tell us the truth. And without that,

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Speaker 1: we might land anywhere. And that is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And that's why people like me have been calling for

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Speaker 1: a COVID reckoning forever, public trials, arrests of government officials.

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Speaker 1: I said, I've said these things over and over again,

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Speaker 1: because institutional trust must be regained or we don't have

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm going to talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Speaking of COVID and institutions, I don't trust medical institutions anymore.

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Speaker 1: How could I? How could you? Frankly, you're a fool

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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday, talking

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Speaker 1: about trusted institute. Bridge goes down. People go crazy with

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Speaker 1: their different theories on things, and none of them can

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Speaker 1: be refuted. Again, Remember you can email the show, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. I got

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Speaker 1: this email yesterday. We were talking Isis in Russia. Jesse.

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Speaker 1: how he thinks it wasn't Isis that committed the terrorist

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Speaker 1: because Isis. When Isis takes credit for an attack, historically

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Speaker 1: But how in the world could I tell this guy

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Speaker 1: he's nuts When all the institutions we should be able

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Speaker 1: the problem. And besides, I think we all know why

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Speaker 5: About one container ship structure of Francis Scott's Key Bridge,

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Speaker 5: which I've been over many many times commuting from the

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Speaker 1: The Francis Scott Key Bridge very clearly fell because Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden chose to take a train over it, and because

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Speaker 1: the Francis Scott Key Bridge doesn't actually have train tracks.

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Speaker 1: The bridge was not able to withstand the weight of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's train and it fell into the Obviously I'm joking,

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Speaker 1: but these are the people who lead our country. This is,

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Speaker 5: Rebuild that port together. This time, we have no other indication,

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Speaker 1: And I also don't believe it was an intentional act.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna trust the rear Admiral. I think he and

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Speaker 1: That's the criminal, that's the crisis. Our institutions aren't trustworthy.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are just blowing up. Now, let's deal

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Speaker 1: Look what they're already doing. The communist is something else.

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Okay, So that was a lot of,

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Speaker 1: I think Ross knows more about this stuff that anybody

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Speaker 1: I know. Joining me now, Ross Kennedy, CEO of Fortis Analysis.

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Speaker 1: He's going to make you and me a lot smarter

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Speaker 1: of our friends. Okay, Ross, let's begin here. Setting aside

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Speaker 1: all the speculation today, how is it possible that a

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think that's a million dollar question

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Speaker 7: it generates such a gigantic load. These engines are massive

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Speaker 7: on these ships. You know, there's a lot of YouTube

432
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Speaker 7: videos and you know photos out there just how big

433
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Speaker 7: the power plants are on these ships. But conceptually they're

434
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Speaker 7: just really gigantic, you know, to two stroke two stroke

435
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Speaker 7: engines that have a layer of things that have to

436
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Speaker 7: go right for them to work. So when a primary power,

437
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Speaker 7: primary propulsion goes out on the ship, you know, when

438
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Speaker 7: you see those lights flicker on, which you're actually seeing,

439
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Speaker 7: is not the ship coming back to life fully, you're

440
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Speaker 7: seeing those secondary you know, emergency systems kick on. That

441
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Speaker 7: control communications, It controls radios, it controls satellite navigation, it

442
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Speaker 7: controls some amount of the rudder capability to actually steer.

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Speaker 7: But if you don't have power being put to the

444
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Speaker 7: ship forward and back, a rudder can only turn something

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Speaker 7: of that size a relatively small amount just on the

446
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Speaker 7: amount of you know, water, it's kind of flowing over

447
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Speaker 7: that rudder at reducing speed and at that size, you know,

448
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Speaker 7: it's a ninety five thousand ton ship when it's fully laden,

449
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Speaker 7: this is an enormous amount of weight. It's moving through

450
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Speaker 7: water eight to you know, at that time it was

451
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Speaker 7: going about seven and a half eight knots, so a

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Speaker 7: little over eight and a half almost nine miles per hour.

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Speaker 7: That's a lot of steel crashing into a fixed object,

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Speaker 7: and inertia physics just kind of takes over. So at

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Speaker 7: that speed, the bow thruster is not going to be

456
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Speaker 7: able to do anything really other than maybe kind of

457
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Speaker 7: sort of get you turned to the couple degrees in

458
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Speaker 7: that distance. So it's just it was simply a function

459
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Speaker 7: of things went wrong at the wrong time and to

460
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Speaker 7: whatever cause they may have gone wrong. Ships lose primary

461
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Speaker 7: power for a lot of reasons. You could have mechanical

462
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Speaker 7: issues inside the engine. You could have a fire in

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Speaker 7: the engine room. You could have had a guy in

464
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Speaker 7: the engine room that was supposed to be on the

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Speaker 7: watch for the engine and he turned the automatic monitoring

466
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Speaker 7: systems on and went to bed. It was almost one

467
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Speaker 7: thirty in the morning. Now, those engine rooms are supposed

468
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Speaker 7: to be manned until basically they're in open water. They're

469
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Speaker 7: away from anything but that you know, again, that comes

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Speaker 7: back to the human error. If whether you're in a plane,

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Speaker 7: an operating room, or on a big ship of that size,

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Speaker 7: if the twenty twenty five people involved in the chain

473
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Speaker 7: and custody of how that ship operates don't all do

474
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Speaker 7: their job to the letter of the process, these kinds

475
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Speaker 7: of things could happen, So we don't know what We

476
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Speaker 7: don't know yet, but there are a lot of human error,

477
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Speaker 7: mechanical reasons this could happen completely absence of any sort

478
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Speaker 7: of foul play. And the systems on the ship simply

479
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 7: can't backup. Systems can't power an engine and a propeller

480
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Speaker 7: shaft and the screw that can move that much weight

481
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Speaker 7: that quickly just on their own. With the relatively small

482
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Speaker 7: battery packs that they have that are kind of designed

483
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Speaker 7: to just you know, do ancillary or kind of station

484
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Speaker 7: keeping things while the while the engines off, they're certainly

485
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 7: not designed to move a big thing forward and backwards

486
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Speaker 7: that speed.

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Speaker 1: Russ, I'm gonna say something, and please, obviously, as you know, brother,

488
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Speaker 1: you're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. But I

489
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Speaker 1: had someone tell me this morning, someone who knows a

490
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Speaker 1: little bit about this stuff, that a ship of that size,

491
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Speaker 1: that there's probably not a bridge in the world that

492
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Speaker 1: could withstand a collision of a ship that size. It's

493
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Speaker 1: just no man, Cain can't make something that can stand

494
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Speaker 1: up to something that size. So my question is, if

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Speaker 1: he's correct about that, do we, as the American people,

496
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Speaker 1: do We regularly cross over bridges that have ships going

497
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Speaker 1: underneath them that could take out the bridge if this happens.

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Speaker 1: My question is why does this not happen all the time?

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Speaker 1: This is horrifiedying And I'm not even a guy who's

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Speaker 1: scared of bridges. I love bridges.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you live in a if you live in

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Speaker 7: a coastal port town that has a major maritime port,

503
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Speaker 7: you know, so that's going to be Houston, you know,

504
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 7: in the goal is going to be Houston, New Orleans, Mobile,

505
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Speaker 7: you know, Tampa, you know, and then obviously along the

506
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Speaker 7: eastern and western seaboards as well. Yeah, absolutely, you know

507
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 7: you're going to be doing that. And the fact that

508
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Speaker 7: these issues are so rare is a testament largely to

509
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Speaker 7: a the regulatory processes that we have in the United States,

510
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Speaker 7: so that you know, I spent thirty minutes criping about

511
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Speaker 7: it on a spaces this morning with John Conrad and

512
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: San Marquliano talking about this exact thing, where it is

513
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Speaker 7: a very complex web of regulation, safety protocols, maintenance inspection certifications,

514
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Speaker 7: but it's designed to prevent this type of thing. Generally speaking,

515
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Speaker 7: most crews, most captains do not want to be responsible

516
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Speaker 7: for being the reason that that some amount of lives

517
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Speaker 7: are lost, so that you have a you know what

518
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Speaker 7: turn into one hundreds of millions or multi billion dollar

519
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Speaker 7: economic disaster for you know, for Baltimore, for that kind

520
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Speaker 7: of corridor of Maryland Washington, d C. To kind of

521
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Speaker 7: rely on that particular terminal to bring things in and

522
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Speaker 7: out of the US. So everybody kind of tries to

523
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Speaker 7: do their jobs, but bad things happen at the worst times.

524
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Speaker 7: And when that when you're talking about something of this

525
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Speaker 7: size and where the laws of physics are simply working

526
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Speaker 7: against you, they happen big. And you know, ever given

527
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 7: in the sus Canal, was that a little over three

528
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 7: years ago, same sort of deal, right, You have a

529
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Speaker 7: mix of you know, you have a mix of things

530
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Speaker 7: happening where human air, mechanical error, nature. You know, everybody

531
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Speaker 7: is kind of an adversary of a ship, and they

532
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Speaker 7: all get a vote, and the worst moment and things

533
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Speaker 7: can spin out of control. But the fact that these

534
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Speaker 7: happen so few times is a testament to broadly speaking,

535
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Speaker 7: how well designed the ships are, how professional the captains

536
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Speaker 7: and the crew are, you know, the necessity of the

537
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Speaker 7: safety and regulations that we have the really good work

538
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Speaker 7: that the Coast Guard does and you know, the Army

539
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Speaker 7: Corps of Engineers and kind of interfacing with the maritime

540
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Speaker 7: community to prevent these But yeah, you know, physical things

541
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 7: will break at some time, and when they do, we're

542
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 7: talking about things that are so big and so powerful that,

543
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 7: like you said, we cannot build bridges. You know, the

544
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 7: question has been while of their dolphins, right, And dolphins

545
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 7: is the industry term for really big you know, steel

546
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 7: rubber mechanical devices that are kind of offset from things

547
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 7: that are vulnerable to a collision. But no matter how

548
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 7: well you design them, those can break, or you can

549
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: hit them at the wrong angle and still punch through

550
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 7: them and you know, still hit the thing they're supposed

551
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 7: to protect. And yeah, a lot of things went wrong here.

552
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 7: We don't totally know yet what they are outside of

553
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 7: some pretty informed speculation guys like me that have been

554
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 7: doing this twenty years, others that you know have sailed

555
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 7: on ships for a long time. But it also illustrates

556
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 7: a vulnerabilities and b that where human error, where mechanical

557
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 7: failure did come into play. How do we reinforce those

558
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 7: things and make sure that hopefully they never happen again,

559
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 7: or if they do, the damage is much more limited.

560
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Ross, thank you brother for making us smarter tonight.

561
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: We all needed a heavy dose of that reality. There's

562
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: a lot of craziness out there today. I appreciate you

563
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: very much. All Right, Now, let's deal with a tragedy,

564
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: something I probably should have let off with at the

565
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: beginning of the show. That's not related to Baltimore and Bridges.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in just a moment. Before we

567
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: talk about that, Let's deal with this. Let's deal with

568
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: your pain, the aches and pains that come with life.

569
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: Your net kurts, your back hurts, your muscles hurt, your joints, hurt,

570
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: your hands, hurt that the things began to hurt. It's fine,

571
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: it's life. How we deal with it is what matters.

572
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: We generally, I'm pointing fingers at me, have dealt with

573
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: us the wrong way. What's the wrong way? You grab

574
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: a peel bottle, then give me the ibuprof and I

575
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: just take a few more of these. Let me just

576
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: liquify my liver real quick. We don't need to do that.

577
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: We need to stop doing that. What we need is

578
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: a natural solution. We need to help our bodies natural

579
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Speaker 1: response to inflammation. That's what Relief Factor is, helping your

580
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Speaker 1: body's natural response. What they sell is three week quick

581
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Speaker 1: start kits. You take it every day for three weeks.

582
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Speaker 1: If you still are in that same kind of pain,

583
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Speaker 1: don't order it again. For some reason, almost everyone comes

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Speaker 1: eight hundred the number four relief or go to relief

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Speaker 1: Factor dot com. We'll be back. It is the Jesse

587
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Tuesday, all right. I probably should

588
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: have led the show with this, but the bridge collapse

589
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: is such a big thing, and I wanted to make

590
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: sure we got a chance to talk to Ross and

591
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: learn about shipping stuff, so I had to wait on this.

592
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: By the way, if you missed Ross, if you miss

593
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: any of that, remember the whole show is podcasted. iHeart Google, Spotify, iTunes.

594
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I probably should have led the show with this, but

595
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: it is, it is what it is. We lost another

596
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: cop gunned down by another piece of trash. NYPD officer

597
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Diller got shot during a traffic stop by a

598
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: guy who's been arrested more times than you can possibly count. Wife,

599
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: young child will never see Dad again. That's never coming

600
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: home again. And I brought this up because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to remind you that the things we talk about when

602
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: we discuss when you're discussing politics, power, Really we'd like

603
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: to talk about it like it's powers. That's what it is.

604
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: When you're discussing power. Who has it? With friends, family, me, whatever,

605
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: There are lives at stake. What has happened to America's

606
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: city is so incredibly sad and enraging. Sitting back and

607
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: watching as the animals take these places over and knowing

608
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: that these are the clowns who run our city.

609
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that New York City is the Actas of America,

610
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: is the is symbol of America, is the Key of America,

611
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: the soul of America.

612
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: We are to Tel Aviv of America.

613
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: New York City is the Islamabad of America, the Zagreb

614
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Speaker 3: of America.

615
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: We are the Lema of America. New York City is

616
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Mexico City of America. This is the doubling of America

617
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: New York City. Ah, that was courtesy of John Campbell,

618
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to make sure he gets credit.

619
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Speaker 1: We just have the most craven, embarrassing people running this country.

620
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: They're either evil or they're embarrassing, and it's so sad

621
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Speaker 1: that it results in people dying. Another two people killed

622
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: in the subway, dying, people dying all over in the

623
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: biggest scumbags on the planet run our country. I hate.

624
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: It just makes me. It drives me crazy, all right,

625
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy. All Right, We're gonna we're gonna

626
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: move on, and we're gonna start talking about other things.

627
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Because somebody ate someone's leg, and we're going to address

628
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: that Dome is getting involved in the Israeli invasion. We're

629
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: actually gonna talk a little bit more about that in

630
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: just a moment, just touching on it for what it

631
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: means for American politics. There was there were abortion arguments

632
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: heard today in front of the Supreme Court. Sounds like

633
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna lose that when we're gonna address that

634
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: office vacancy's America needing power. Let me address this first though.

635
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Let me address your privacy, your data. You know why

636
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: all these companies want you to put in your email address.

637
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Now when you go buy some lumber somewhere, it doesn't

638
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: matter what you do, I'll give your email address. What's

639
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: your phone number? Why is that Why do they do that?

640
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: Because your data is power for these people. The more

641
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: they know about you, the more money and power they

642
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: can acquire for themselves. It's not just corporate America, it's

643
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: the government as well. What are you doing to protect

644
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: your data? Your phone? Your cell phone, it has your

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Speaker 1: entire life on it. Your laptop has your entire life

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Speaker 1: on it. Get a silent bag and protect your information

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Speaker 1: signal blocking Faraday bags so your phone doesn't hand out

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Speaker 1: all your information while it sits there. Slnt dot com

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Speaker 1: slash Jesse gets you fifteen percent off all your devices

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Speaker 1: need to be an assiglent bag, So go get one,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, steal what's hey? Jesse? My Democrat

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Speaker 1: buddy was recently recently told me this. He said, I

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Speaker 1: don't like talking to you because you make so much sense,

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Speaker 1: and I want to believe what I want to believe.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a guy intensely committed to staying in his cave.

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Speaker 1: If you have half the country committed to staying in

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Speaker 1: the cave, how can we ever turn this around? We

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Speaker 1: were talking about this speaking of the cave. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: missed the show, but we were doing Plato's cave allegory

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Speaker 1: and I thoid. Look, it's about the headiest thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever done. On this show, Show wherever will do? On

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Speaker 1: the show it sat, we were talking about the communist

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Speaker 1: and how he lives in a world to make believe,

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Speaker 1: and how he wants to live in a world to

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Speaker 1: make believe. Joe Biden got up today she said this

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Speaker 1: This three.

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Speaker 8: Teaches us that democracies don't disappear overnight. They disappear slowly, subtly, silently,

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Speaker 8: A book ban, a court decision, I don't say gay law.

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Speaker 8: Before World War Two, I'm told Berlin was the center

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Speaker 8: of lgbtq's culture in Europe. One group of people loses

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Speaker 8: their right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so liberal and Peggy believes she's fighting Nazis your

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Speaker 1: friend your friend? He doesn't. He doesn't want you to

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Speaker 1: tell him the truth. Do you have people in your

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Speaker 1: life like that when you discuss politics, they shine, you,

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Speaker 1: walk away, tell you to stop. Let's talk about that

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Speaker 1: next