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Speaker 2: Out here. The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness,

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Speaker 2: but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience,

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Speaker 2: and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most.

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Speaker 2: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of

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Speaker 2: wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in

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Speaker 2: the back country. This is In Pursuit, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Mount Knobs in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. This is

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Speaker 2: a regular episode. I'm so lost on how you know.

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Speaker 2: Our rhythm goes way off. So we've got a guest

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Speaker 2: don't tune out because it's not just me and Angelo

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Speaker 2: the cool stuff we saw when we were at Western Hunt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the hard part is you know, when you

435
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Speaker 2: start specializing in that stuff, you you lose some capacity

436
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Speaker 2: in other areas and so you know, it is tough

437
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Speaker 2: to like have. That's why I like having a bunch

438
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Speaker 2: of different tests. I mean, heck, we're gonna do a

439
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Speaker 2: twenty four hour two men run this weekend. So if

440
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,480
Speaker 2: you're not if you're not busy, you can come back out.

441
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Speaker 2: But uh, and then from there, we've got a mountain

442
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Speaker 2: bike race that we're doing an Amarillo in June, and

443
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,280
Speaker 2: then from there a CrossFit competition in July, another one

444
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Speaker 2: in August, another one in November, and the hunting season

445
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,920
Speaker 2: obviously in September, and then an iron Man in November.

446
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,760
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, just a pretty wide varied swath

447
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,919
Speaker 2: of fitness there, not just one pigeonholed area.

448
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 3: So you know, it is nice to specialize for periods

449
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,200
Speaker 3: of time. Yeah, absolutely, Like I mean, I feel like

450
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Speaker 3: we all agree on this, like you just get bored

451
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Speaker 3: doing the same thing, and like there are people that

452
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Speaker 3: can We've talked about this a lot. There are people

453
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Speaker 3: that can go put on the ruck and rock for

454
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Speaker 3: you know, an hour every day and that's it. That's

455
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Speaker 3: not something they want to do. Yeah, I mean it's

456
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Speaker 3: it's good. Like here, we are gonna be able. You

457
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Speaker 3: need to walk with the heavy pack on for a while.

458
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Speaker 3: But for the three of us, probably the four of

459
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Speaker 3: us sitting here, that's not us.

460
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Speaker 2: Like I need to I can get in like a

461
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Speaker 2: four to six week type where yeah, you hop on

462
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Speaker 2: the StairMaster every morning and I'm like forty forty five minutes.

463
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Speaker 2: I'm like good, I'm good, you know, and everything else

464
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Speaker 2: is just kind of cherry on top yea.

465
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Speaker 1: And for me, the pieces have become like an efficiency part. Right,

466
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Speaker 1: It's like it's Saturday, Sunday, I've got family stuff to

467
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Speaker 1: go do, love to go hike. Let me tell us

468
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Speaker 1: toss on the ruck and do that hours. Yeah, yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: And I got snacks with the kid in there, and just.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's I mean, that's that's a great

471
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Speaker 3: way to think about it. And I yeah, I mean

472
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Speaker 3: I like to do I like to do a lot

473
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Speaker 3: of different other kinds of fitness. And we talked about this,

474
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Speaker 3: like the tracks that we offer, like there's a bodybuilding one,

475
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Speaker 3: there's a hybrid one, there's CrossFit like and I don't

476
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Speaker 3: think you should probably follow one mostly to a t.

477
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Speaker 3: But if there's a day you want to do something different,

478
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Speaker 3: do something different, or go through. If you do want

479
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Speaker 3: to go throw the ruck on rock for an hour

480
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Speaker 3: or two, go go do it. Or what you just said,

481
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Speaker 3: like if you're not going to go to the gym,

482
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Speaker 3: just put an extra weight plate in the in the

483
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Speaker 3: backpack or back a couple extra snacks. Yeah, and walk

484
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Speaker 3: a little farther. It's like, you know, there's there's a

485
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Speaker 3: lot of ways to You don't have to just go

486
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Speaker 3: to a four walls of a gym and do the

487
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Speaker 3: same workout you've done forever, or you don't have to

488
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Speaker 3: go throw that ruck on and do the same rock

489
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Speaker 3: loop you've done forever. There's a lot of ways to

490
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Speaker 3: get fit, and there's it's a lot more fun if

491
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Speaker 3: you do these like four to six week locks where

492
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Speaker 3: you're kind of changing things up. Obviously, if you're like

493
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Speaker 3: a professional athlete, you gotta we gotta like specialize, but

494
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Speaker 3: that's a finite amount of people like NFL players are

495
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 3: not talking about them. We're talking about people who just

496
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Speaker 3: want to generally be fit and go across the board.

497
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Speaker 3: So you don't have to just specialize in one thing,

498
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Speaker 3: like you don't pigeonol yourself, like make a big broad

499
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Speaker 3: and make some scary goals, like uh, like run a

500
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Speaker 3: half marathon. You're like, I think I want to run

501
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Speaker 3: a ten k this year. I say, well, how about

502
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Speaker 3: the end of the year we run a half marathon?

503
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Speaker 3: Like maybe maybe you can do it, Maybe you need

504
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Speaker 3: to walk, I don't know, you know, might as well

505
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Speaker 3: just try.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's so that's kind of where I'm

507
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Speaker 1: at with my next fitness journey.

508
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Speaker 2: Right.

509
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Speaker 1: So we were sponsoring the Tactoo Games this year, and

510
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Speaker 1: so I went out and watch my first one in

511
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Speaker 1: uh last November, and I was like, Okay, I gotta

512
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Speaker 1: figure this out if I gotta do this. So I'm

513
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Speaker 1: gonna go competing three of those this year. So that's cool.

514
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Speaker 1: First ones in April, so like, and I'm coming at

515
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Speaker 1: it from I've done a bunch of archery stuff. I've

516
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Speaker 1: got some CrossFit pieces, but my like firearm skills just like.

517
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Speaker 2: I'm about to go hunt. Let's shoot a box of

518
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: rounds and yep, we're good.

519
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Speaker 3: It's the it's the handgun for me, like long guns

520
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: pretty easy, you shoot a little bit. Sorry, I'm not

521
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Speaker 3: winning a tactic I'm not winning a tactical.

522
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Speaker 2: Game an ar but everyone's just I was thinking, try

523
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Speaker 2: to shoot over one hundred and fifty two hundred yards

524
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Speaker 2: and do all the math and the win. That's that's

525
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Speaker 2: the tough part.

526
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Like when you're like tactical games, you're shooting

527
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Speaker 3: like probably art out to two hundred maybe.

528
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Speaker 1: Like sometimes farther. Yeah, Okay, I haven't got so I've

529
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of my time here early on, like

530
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Speaker 1: on the pistol side. Yeah, and okay, I've seen the

531
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Speaker 1: crossover between that and archery has been huge, huge, So

532
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Speaker 1: a lot of it's just like the awareness relaxation, you're

533
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Speaker 1: like relaxing your trader finger. Yeah, and then also at

534
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Speaker 1: same time, like you don't overthink, you like trust your body. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: it's it's but all that goes out of the window

536
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Speaker 1: as soon as you jack your heart right.

537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly, you can't yeah, and then throw in

538
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: the competition side. Yeah, you know, like you I think

539
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: that's an incredible way to train for hunting. Yeah, because

540
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: one your heart rate is up, but two you can't

541
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Speaker 2: at you like, the stuff goes to just to ship.

542
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Speaker 2: There's no other way to say it. When you're in competition,

543
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 2: like what you think is gonna happen, you don't, like,

544
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: everything goes out the window when you start competing and

545
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 2: somebody's beating you or you're going against a clock. And

546
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Speaker 2: it's such a good crossover to hunting, I think, Yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: I actually think it's because usually you're surprised when an

548
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Speaker 2: animal comes in. You're like, God, nothing's gonna holp. Yeah, happened,

549
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: And it always happens when nothing is happening.

550
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Speaker 3: When nothing should happen. Like you just said that you

551
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Speaker 3: thirty four mile an hour win, and then here comes

552
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Speaker 3: the biggest, the first buck you ever shot, and he's huge.

553
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Speaker 3: You're like you you don't think he's gonna be there,

554
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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he's there, and like in

555
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Speaker 3: a snapshot of a second, you're like your heart rates

556
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Speaker 3: one to eighty and you're like you can't even see straight.

557
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Speaker 1: You're at the same time, you got to like have

558
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Speaker 1: all those reps ahead of time to know how to ext.

559
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Speaker 2: Because then you just shut off and you do your thing.

560
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Speaker 4: Thoughts aren't thinking, thoughts aren't thinking, Thank you, Joel.

561
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean every time I shoot or kill something,

562
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Speaker 2: there's like a ten or fifteen second window where I

563
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Speaker 2: don't remember yeah, anything like yeah, because you do it

564
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Speaker 2: so much that it's just just automatics automatic.

565
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Speaker 1: I've got this weird as soon as I take a shot,

566
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Speaker 1: like my kidney's like see you. I don't know if

567
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Speaker 1: it's like an adrenaline rush. I've got to sit down

568
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Speaker 1: and like I'm not going to move for like a oh.

569
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Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy.

570
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Speaker 3: I just I just shake on uncontrolrollably. Yeah, it's like

571
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Speaker 3: and it's sometimes I.

572
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Speaker 2: Blame it on because I'm cold. Yeah, it's not because

573
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Speaker 2: I'm cold.

574
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Speaker 3: Sometimes I can hold it off for the shots and

575
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Speaker 3: then and then sometimes there's been times where I'm like,

576
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Speaker 3: I can't shoot right now, like this, there's this if

577
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Speaker 3: this you know, sometimes you'll watch like you'll see a

578
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Speaker 3: deer way off. This happened to me this year. I

579
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Speaker 3: see this huge deer way off. I see him come

580
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Speaker 3: downhill and he kind of disappears, and I'm shaking so uncontrollably.

581
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I hope he does not walk in front

582
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Speaker 3: of you.

583
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Speaker 2: I was just thinking the same thing. It was that

584
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Speaker 2: I probably told this story on our the when we

585
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Speaker 2: finally killed in public Land on over the countertags and Colordo, Dude,

586
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: that Elk came out and stared at us. He would

587
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Speaker 2: he would look at us, look down, look around, he'd eat,

588
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: he'd look back up, look at us down for eleven minutes. Dude,

589
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Speaker 2: I thought my by no Case was tapping the bow

590
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Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting there doing this the whole time.

591
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Speaker 2: And you get to a point where You're like, I

592
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Speaker 2: hope he goes away.

593
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Speaker 5: It's like Tommy Jerry, you were I hope he goes

594
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Speaker 5: away one because I don't know if I can draw

595
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Speaker 5: on this thing, and I'm gonna I have to try,

596
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Speaker 5: and I have to try, but then I'm also like

597
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna screw up the shot.

598
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Speaker 2: So then there's there's just so much that goes on.

599
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Speaker 2: And I just remember him walking and he goes to

600
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Speaker 2: leave and Curtis I draw the Curtis like wait, wait,

601
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Speaker 2: and he stops and I was gonna send a prayer

602
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Speaker 2: through a window and he ends up coming back and

603
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Speaker 2: he crossed that tree. And I'm the same with you.

604
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Speaker 2: I I was so early on and still man, I

605
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Speaker 2: still it is. I'm not comfortable trying to stop him.

606
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna spook him. And I didn't stop him,

607
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 2: and as soon as he came across that window or

608
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Speaker 2: that tree, we hit him and tracked him real close.

609
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm the same way where you're just like.

610
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Speaker 5: And then you're done, and I'm like full like apple body, like,

611
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah, it's so crazy.

612
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Speaker 1: Uh, I guess circling back. Yeah, So yes, I got

613
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Speaker 1: here the public Land I mean, it's nothing crazy. So

614
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Speaker 1: I've been on the beauty so far. Yeah, so yeah,

615
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Speaker 1: I need to close that chest. So I've been on

616
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Speaker 1: too so far. So I went on my first one

617
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Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one. I've done them all in

618
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Speaker 1: Utah so at that time, so we've got a bow site.

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Speaker 1: So we talked about the little basically like a bow

620
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Speaker 1: set as an arrangefinder built into it. You take it

621
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Speaker 1: legal there and it was lethal. It was so now

622
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: my states are going to open up then. But that's

623
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Speaker 1: why I picked Utah to start with, because, like I left,

624
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Speaker 1: I had on my my bow all season long for

625
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Speaker 1: white tail. I didn't want to take it off. And

626
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Speaker 1: for me, like that bow is that site is built

627
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Speaker 1: specifically for western hunting.

628
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Speaker 2: It's great, right, Like it'd be incredible.

629
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Speaker 1: Things just change constantly and.

630
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Speaker 2: To be able to ever used it specifically because I

631
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Speaker 2: didn't want to get used to it being that awesome.

632
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, so went out there. I literally

633
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: was in that. We had a crappy little basement. Jim

634
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: mc garmman for long time. I talked him. I was like, hey,

635
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: you want to go on to Elk count with me?

636
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: He's like sure, let's go. And so like the two

637
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: of us, like we just went out went to the

638
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Speaker 1: Mantai Range and we picked that one out because it's

639
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: like it was only a spike or cow only tag,

640
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a good bowl region. And so

641
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: like looking back on my education from like White Tail,

642
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna fail at this for a bunch of

643
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Speaker 1: years before a success.

644
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Speaker 3: So I want to get out, get out there.

645
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Speaker 1: I want to get out and like and see some

646
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Speaker 1: stuff I wander if I can get into bulls and

647
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: like do some calling stuff and if I get a

648
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: cow or spike, like that would be amazing. So we

649
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: went out for a week, ran around. I didn't see

650
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: like crap, like the coolest thing that had happened. And

651
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: that one is like we're sitting in camp one night,

652
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: in a whole herd like walk by our tent, like

653
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: we could just see their silhouettes and hear them like

654
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: call them off. But yeah, so that kind of wrapped

655
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: up that year. We had our my son, and then

656
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: I didn't go that year, and then I just went

657
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: back to Utah again the same reason it was legal

658
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: there and we went to the un does, which is

659
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: it's tough it's pretty hard hunting up there. I think

660
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned right is like I was like, okay,

661
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on this state to this day and

662
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: the state did say is always eighty degrees and like terrible.

663
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: So I went out there with a buddy and like

664
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: ran around for a couple of days. But I finally

665
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: had that first like inner counter like it was last night,

666
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: like it always is. You're a wool bugling off in

667
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: the distance. We go up and try to like how

668
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: call like still call him out, call him out, call

669
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: him out. Sounds going down, so I'm like screw it,

670
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna goes. I'm gonna go close the distance.

671
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: So I like get in there like challenge beagle like

672
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: as best as I can because I'm really crappy.

673
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: I'm women can do this.

674
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: But he like I do it and he comes with

675
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: right over the top of me him. I'm just like,

676
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: oh what everyone talks about it. I was like come on,

677
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: and he he never showed back up, but it was

678
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: like it was that experience for me. That's like looking

679
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: back at my white tail, It's like that was my

680
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: dough walking with my stand that like that's the hooks

681
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: that like makes me want to go out and do

682
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: it again. So but maybe you talk in this year,

683
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: maybe Colorado and what I'm gonna do quite yet.

684
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: So I gotta I got a little I got a

685
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: little train wreck story that is where since you were

686
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: just talking about it when we when I went out

687
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: twenty one, Yeah, it was a fall twenty one. We

688
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: were all there. It was me, Sam right, yeah, me,

689
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Sam and Marlon might have been with us at this

690
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: point or not. It was like one of the last

691
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: days and I had taken one day off. Me and

692
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: Marlon had taken one day off.

693
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: Not off.

694
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: We set a wallow. We set a wallow.

695
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: We took it off.

696
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: We took it off.

697
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: We didn't.

698
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: We didn't hide very far.

699
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Recovery day.

700
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: It was a recovery day. Yeah, I did go hunting,

701
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: but I recovered. I recovered that most of that day

702
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: more emotionally than way more physically. I did not.

703
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: We did those.

704
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: Years some good miles.

705
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: So the last day we're hiding around naturally not seeing anything,

706
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: and you know, you're trying to be quiet still like you.

707
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: I am now understand. I now know that at this

708
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: point in the week, I know that there's probably no

709
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: elk anywhere near me. However, we're still trying to act

710
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: like there is. So I'm trying to walk nice and easy,

711
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: and there's this huge log, like there's a work in

712
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: just like one of these little goat paths through the

713
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: through the woods. And I step up and over this

714
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: big log, and I'm, you know, be trying to be quiet.

715
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: I stumbled just a little bit. I don't know how

716
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: it happens, but one hand goes to the other goes

717
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: to my bow, and my thumb jabs my sight breaks

718
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: the pins. I'm like, great, So now if I even

719
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: see anything, I'm not gonna shoot him. Anyways. Of course

720
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't see anything, so it's not a big deal.

721
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: I come back home and like that's around the same

722
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: time that like white tail season opens up, and I

723
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: go and sit my stand.

724
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: You didn't take into account that you hit your pins.

725
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: Well, my pin was broken. Still, my pin was broken,

726
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: and a Kyloti walks right in front of me and

727
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: I and I range him. I broke my thirty pin.

728
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: He's thirty yards and my my pin is just I

729
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: mean it's dangling there, you know, it's hanging by the

730
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: little wire. It's dangling in there, and I'm like, I

731
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: could probably hit him, draw right under him and he's gone.

732
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: I'm like almost. I wanted to throw my bot across them.

733
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to throw a the woods. So I have

734
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: a new site. Now.

735
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 2: My funny story about that year we killed it was

736
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: the spot Hog single pin, and so it had a

737
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: pin instead of horizontal, it was vertical, but it had

738
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: like a kind of like a quarter circle. I guess

739
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: the hole and I'd fallen a couple of times that

740
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: was here. My shoulder was jacked up, so I wouldn't

741
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: put my shoulder down my arm out when I was

742
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: I would just fall and I must have fallen three

743
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: or four times. But anyway, one time I looked down

744
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: and it was bent. My site was bent, and I'm like, crap.

745
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: So I just bent it back as best I could,

746
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: and that's when I killed that. It was the most

747
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: bizarre thing ever. So, yeah, it was meant to be theory.

748
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: That would only mess up your in theory, you would

749
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: only mess up your axis, not like not necessarily you're.

750
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Left to right right.

751
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: You're the engineer, you tell us.

752
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well it was fixed. I got it fixed

753
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: as best I could. But that actually the r one

754
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: of our several public land shit.

755
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: Shows public Land train wreck.

756
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: Train wreck and emphasis on train and one of our

757
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: train wrecks was me and Steven father Stephen were it

758
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: was our It was the first year we were first

759
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: year I came out there with you guys, and you

760
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: you were with.

761
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: I think I was with Nelson Nelson, I think, yeah,

762
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: me because I came with you, Stephen, and.

763
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Then uh Bouchet, who was our camp the guy I

764
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: was filming that time. We go out and it's seventy degrees.

765
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Seventy degrees. We wake up the third morning or fourth

766
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: morning and it's like fifty. We're like, oh, okay, go

767
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: walk around a little bit, stop for lunch, and all

768
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like dipping dots start falling from

769
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: the sky and you're like, oh, that's weird, and so

770
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: it starts snowing and thundering and lightning. It was the

771
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: most bizarre thing I've ever seen. And so we're like, oh, well,

772
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: let's go sit under this, you know, big evergreen trees.

773
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: So we're sitting there and our then it's just dumping

774
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: dumping snow. We're like, all right, this sucks. We should

775
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: probably get back to camp. At this point, we just

776
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: had an enclosed trailer, no insulation, no nothing, that we

777
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: had towed all of our stuff in, and we were sleeping.

778
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: In literally on mattresses, and so luckily i'd had a

779
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: garment Montana seven.

780
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: Forty I yeah, I'm right, something like that. Orange.

781
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: No, this was a great one was back in twenty nineteen.

782
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: It looked like an old school like.

783
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: It was a big yeah, looked like a phone, a

784
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 2: big phone, and it was awesome and luckily I had it.

785
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Because we start walking up, Stephen's like, let's hunt her

786
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: way back, and I'm like, cool, we should try to

787
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: hunt our way back. And it gets to the point

788
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: where I turned my hood sideways because the wind and

789
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: snow's blowing so hard. So I'm like, Stephen, let's go up,

790
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: and he's like, you're right, let's go up. So we

791
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: go up to the top of the ridge and we were,

792
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: you know, up on one of these knife not knife ridges,

793
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: but a ridge, and then you just take the ridge

794
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: back to camp. And so we get up top and

795
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: Stephen's like, we keep going this way and I'm like, dude,

796
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: that's downhill. We don't need to be going that way.

797
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: He's like, no, no, it's this way. When everything starts

798
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: to look the same as snow, it messes up and

799
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: I look at the garment and I'm like, no, dude,

800
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: it's this way. Well about that time, he had the

801
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: whole infamous GoPro moment where he can't find his go pro.

802
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: He's a Catholic priest, can't find his go pro. He's

803
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: freaking out, stripping his clothes off in Blizzard's like, I

804
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: gotta go back and get it, and I'm like, dude,

805
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: He's like, it's the church's goal pro. We'll call the pope,

806
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: We'll get you a new guy. It's not that big

807
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: of a deal. He was freaking out, and luckily if

808
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: he went back, he'd have been lost and dead somewhere.

809
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he was already trying to get us turned around.

810
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: So I say all that to say, the garment pretty

811
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: much saved us. Yeah, made sure we were good because

812
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: back then, especially where we were at, there was no

813
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: cell phone service, so ONYX wasn't working. There was no

814
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: like it was. It was bad, and so yeah, it

815
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: helped a tone and have an in reach every I

816
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: think I had a rule with Hillary every hour and

817
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: a half two hours. I just had to send all

818
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: safe yeah my text, you know text. Yeah.

819
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 4: Actually I was with Nilson and Nelson gets this in reach.

820
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 4: He goes, well, I guess fifty by father Steven new

821
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: go bro.

822
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean so like the my Western hunts,

823
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: I made the mistake one morning, I left my in

824
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: reach back at camp and so like, my wife's not

825
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: used to be being that far away, and so she

826
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: was messaging messing, and but she knows the guy that

827
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm with Ish, so she like stocks his wife down

828
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: on like social media and ends up calling her. And

829
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: so I never leave my in reach and.

830
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 3: Then yeah, and you get yeah, once you get the text,

831
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: like oh die, yeah, yeah, but she's gone through that

832
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: many avenues to get to you, Like, oh no, she's stressing.

833
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's been hours before she finally got to you.

834
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: You're like, oh gosh.

835
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: And for us at Garment, that that's part of our

836
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: history in that hunting space, right, Like that's where we've

837
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: lived for a long time, is like that GO two

838
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: tool for navigation, and then at one point in time

839
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: it was Delorum, and then Garment acquired Delorum, which is

840
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: how we went We took that mapping technology and we

841
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: started to integrate that to a communication piece that is

842
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: in reach today. Right, So like one of our biggest

843
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: products in that space is like you're in reach many too,

844
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Like you see that little everybody in reach yep. So

845
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: we I mean we're like one thing we're always trying

846
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: to do, right, is we're trying to push innovation and

847
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: change stuff and make it better. So we just launched

848
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: is in reach Many three platform this last year and

849
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: really the big upgrades that they are on all the

850
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: Plus devices is now you can send both those text

851
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: messages that I used to, but you can also send

852
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: images and then like short voice messages. So like instead

853
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: of like hey honeyback was like texting that can literally

854
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: record a message and send that out to my wife

855
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: or then my little boy like getting ready for bed,

856
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: he can hey Dad going to bed, like send it

857
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: right back. So that's that's really cool.

858
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great one of those Yeah, man, I think

859
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: it's it's a huge you know, you can talk about

860
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: that type of stuff. We can talk about watches, which

861
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: I think watches are a huge benefit just kind of

862
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: knowing one step count, heart rate stuff just throughout the day,

863
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: you know, because it has the battery, like you're not

864
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: the battery on the watch, but like your your fitness

865
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: kind of battery, body battery, And so I think that's

866
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: super beneficial for guys, especially if you're training with one

867
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: leading up to it, you kind of know what's going

868
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: on with your body. We always preach, hey, previous to

869
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: the hunt, you need to be in the best shape

870
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: you can be with the most rest and sleep and all.

871
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: That's because on the hunt, your sleep's gonna suffer. Your

872
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: fitness should be pretty good, but you're gonna get worn out,

873
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: and then your recovery from nutrition is not gonna be

874
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: optimal for sure, unless you're pounding little Debi's over And.

875
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: That's exactly how use mine. So like the big thing

876
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: for me is our battery life. The fact that you

877
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: can wear this thing for days on end. And so

878
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: then I get my sleep tracking. So the big driver

879
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: in that piece is gonna be HRV. So if I

880
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: give my a solid HRV and then we get this

881
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: thing called my sleep score so that it feeds into

882
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: my body battery, and then I track literally all my

883
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: workouts in here. So we're talking about a little bit

884
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: over here, Like I literally have like you can you

885
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: can customize your workout. So I took a standard cardio

886
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: workout and I name it from my CrossFit workout, or

887
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: if it's going to be a workout that's more outside,

888
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I'll go through a new crossfreight run. So then I'm

889
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: getting my GPS tracking. But all that data and all

890
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: that stuff pulls into like a daily glance for me.

891
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: So another metric I've been using a lot is it's

892
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: called your endurance score. So it literally like it looks

893
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: at like what's like kind of part of it. If

894
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I do more VO two max stuff, it's gonna help

895
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: me out. Really a lot of this the endurance piece

896
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: is focused more for like long distance stuff, but it's

897
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: still gonna indicator for me just because it's it's nice

898
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: to have that piece. I've been paying a little closer

899
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: attention to me. But going back to like what you're

900
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: talking about is like prepping for the hunt and getting

901
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: ready to go out. So we tracking here what's called

902
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: your pull socks. So if you have your pull socks,

903
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: then you can get altitude acclamation. So then if you're

904
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: like getting out in the mountains, you can start to

905
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: understand like, Okay, how is my body adjusting to the mountains,

906
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: because that's that can first serious piece where you guys

907
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: get sick and you get pulled off the mountain if

908
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: if you don't allow yourself to acclimate back in that way.

909
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 2: I try to just get that punch in the nuts

910
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: as soon as we get there to get it kind

911
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: of out of the way.

912
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: But but yeah, really one thing I get pushed like

913
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm the market manager for hunting stuff, and like one

914
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: thing I get pushed back on buddies this with Dan

915
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh what is Dan? Like what is

916
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Garman doing in the hunting space? Like we've been in

917
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: the hunting space, yeah for a long time, like handhelds.

918
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: We also have like a whole dedicated line of like

919
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: dog products, right, so that's another spot where we took

920
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: upland stuff. Yeah. So what's where we took our garment

921
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: and mapping technology required like the pioneers of like dog

922
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: training stuff, and we pair that into like what's the

923
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Alpha series, so now you can go track and train

924
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: your dog in the field. Yeah, and so we've been

925
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: doing that for a long long time. And then really

926
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: that bo site back in twenty eighteen, that was our

927
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: first big jump into like, okay, let's go make some

928
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: real like dedicated like big game hunting pieces. And that's

929
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: just like snowballed into this whole subset of product line,

930
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: which is our our zero product line. So out of

931
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: that you got the bow site we took and we

932
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: did a version of that goes on a crossboscope. So

933
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: then again you've got like ranging built right into like

934
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: your display, so you push button takes a range, gives it. Basically,

935
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: those crossbow scipts are crazy fast, right, like it's easy.

936
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: And I was pretty against like able bodied men using crossbows,

937
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: and now I'm during archery season. If you want to

938
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: use one during you know, maybe muzzleloader or maybe sure,

939
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: I want.

940
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: One as my muzzloaders. I think it's more fun to shoot.

941
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm completely against them for able bodied men during

942
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: you know, watching Trice shoot and I've shot it a

943
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: couple of times, but Trice shooting it, You're just like,

944
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: holy crap, that things fast. I went back in the

945
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: yard into ninety yards and just laid prone and it

946
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: was like a there was no arc on this thing

947
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: thatsever you know, like we get back in the yard

948
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: and I'm shooting my regular butt, my regular bow and

949
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: it's got this.

950
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: You know, huge arch.

951
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there's no arc on that.

952
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: It's just it's just straight. It's crazy. Yeah, I've actually

953
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: thought about using one as my lads. I just I

954
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: don't want one. I know I'm one's letter and two.

955
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I just like shooting arrow

956
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: so fun. And it's totally silent. You like, I think

957
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: that's there's aw something you said. There's totally silent. You

958
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: don't blow up the woods really like you could probably

959
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: kill a deer and then come back the afternoon and

960
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: kill another deer.

961
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, turkey, it's fun. With the tea.

962
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: I was good. I think I'm the Trice. I think

963
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm Gonnat. He's kind of afraid of a shotgun. Yeah,

964
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: and so I'm thinking crossbow be able to work, yeah,

965
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: for archery, for youth hunt.

966
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when's that next weekend?

967
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: Two weekends, two weekends coming quick.

968
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully snow's gone.

969
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy degrees. It was seventy degrees yesterday. Seventy degrees

970
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: by Frida.

971
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: He said it's three three it's like freezing cl It

972
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, same, is like seventy eight degrees in

973
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: the city last.

974
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Week, it says, yeah, seventy five on Saturday, it's yeah,

975
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: twenty eight nine thing this afternoon, so annoying.

976
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Get the zero crossbow. We did a product it's called

977
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the zero S one Trap shoot Train. This one it's

978
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: been out for a long time now, but it literally

979
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: for it's for clay shooters, and so it would at

980
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: a radar and a high speed camera. It could track

981
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: like the clay through space. You could track your bullet

982
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: or like and see how well you broke it. And

983
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: then we would assign like just what we call it

984
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: smash fat, like how did you blow it up.

985
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: Instead of just like put that one Yeah, yeah.

986
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: You see you get one BB that goes through it

987
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: doesn't even break the dis Yeah.

988
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: They'd be like a chip for us. You get a

989
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: lower score fats like you have a lower smash. So

990
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: the goal with that product right was like it was

991
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: a teaching tool for coaches, and it was interesting to

992
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: see like coaches would take it out and they'd be

993
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: trying to tell kids like you're you're leading or you're

994
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: trailing that thing. But if you can actually show them

995
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: on on the screen, oh this is exactly where we hit.

996
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Then things start with the pair up one of our

997
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: biggest products that we've had in that and we launched

998
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: this is called the zero C one chronograph that we

999
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: launched here a couple of years back, and we just

1000
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: did a new iteration on that, which is the zero

1001
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: C two And for me on the on the zero side,

1002
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: that's been the biggest launch I've been a part of

1003
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: to date. Right, So if you're familiar with chronographs, are right,

1004
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: So they measure the speed of projectiles.

1005
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: Sure, we used that to sit in my boat because

1006
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: we had two days to sided in between the archery

1007
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: and it's and we used pretty sure.

1008
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I've seen around I guess. So

1009
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: really there's a few technology that there's like light gates.

1010
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: There was one like market leader for about ten years

1011
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: that's about the size of a laptop. Takes a bunch

1012
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: of batteries and it was just finicky and so we

1013
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: brought to market there was like the size of a

1014
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: deck of cards. Crazy and it just works. You literally

1015
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: turn it on, yep, and then like super wide range

1016
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: of functionality, so literally so you could We've seen people

1017
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: shoo rubber bands over the top of it really and

1018
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: it'll pick them up, or like nerf guns all the

1019
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: way up to like PSR like or prs like long

1020
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: distance rifles like five thousand feet per second. It can

1021
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: pick that. But for me, like as a marketing manager,

1022
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I look back at like, Okay, why was that thing successful?

1023
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: It was for me it was it solved a real

1024
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: problem for people. It was super easy, intuitive to work,

1025
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: and it didn't like impair what anybody was doing there.

1026
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: So but yeah, the big launch that we showed and

1027
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: talk to you guys at Western Hunt is Yeah, it's

1028
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: called the L sixty I. So it's our it's our

1029
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: first big step in our premium optics line. So we've

1030
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: been working on for years, right, and so when we

1031
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: looked at doing that, we actually part of the inspiration

1032
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: for that came from the bow site. So within the

1033
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: bow site, we actually have a thing called laser Locate

1034
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: because we have a rangefinder built in the bow site.

1035
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: And what we're able to do within that was basically,

1036
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: we can take your last range. We know, we have

1037
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: a compass in that thing, so we have a distance,

1038
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: direction and position, so then we can project that waypoint

1039
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: in anywhere. But we wanted to take it like, we

1040
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't want just that tech piece right, because there's a

1041
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: lot of optics out there, so great optics premium optics

1042
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: was step one for us, and turns out that's really hard,

1043
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: so it took ye. So we were benchmarking against like

1044
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: the best out there, Like we wanted to have like

1045
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: Sarasky level glass, like like level stuff, and then take

1046
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: all the garment stuff and stack it on top of that.

1047
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: So if you used to looking through rangefinders and optics,

1048
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: you look through it and it's usually mono, right, it's

1049
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: either red or it's green, and it gives you some

1050
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: cool data points. We put a full color display in

1051
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: there and like that's the reaction is people seeing that

1052
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: for the first time is one of the coolest things.

1053
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: Like they're like, oh, that sounds cool, and then the jawstropp.

1054
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You can't really get the point across just

1055
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: list litening to us talking about it. It is such

1056
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: a weird phenomenon. Putting it up to your face and

1057
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: using it is crazy.

1058
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: And so then we're able to build on that concept

1059
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: of laser locate. Right. So now the fact that we

1060
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: have a GPS fixed, we have your direction with the compass,

1061
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: and then we have that three D mapping, So we

1062
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: use that full color display to build out full typo

1063
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: maps in a HUD right, So then if you can

1064
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: see it, you can use it. What we call sensor locate,

1065
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: so we're using all those sensors in there to project

1066
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: that waypoint. So if you see something bedded down like

1067
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: two miles away on a mountain side, you.

1068
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Can get to it. You can range it, which is

1069
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: so hard because you know things change. You changed ten feet,

1070
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: you move ten feet lower, higher, left, right, and that

1071
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: optic changes completely, and then when you get over to

1072
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: the spot, you're like, what was I even looking at you.

1073
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: Everyone's been in a situation where you're sitting somewhere, standing

1074
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: somewhere and you're like, over there looks perfect. If I

1075
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: just was over there, it would be perfect. You get

1076
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: over there and it is awful. It's not perfect, or

1077
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: or you or you're on the way and you're like, wait,

1078
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: this is better, or maybe that's better, or maybe I

1079
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: should go over there, and like, yeah, that's it's crazy, Gosh,

1080
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: that's awesome.

1081
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, So the sensor locate pieces in there, and

1082
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: then we stack a whole bunch of other stuff in

1083
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: there too. So one we built an applied toallistics solver.

1084
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: So if you're using like the A B app and

1085
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: you're shooting, you can literally it's gonna pull in all

1086
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: of your like all of your environmentals except for your

1087
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: wind and give your shooting solution. And then we also

1088
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: built out a lot of this data comes in from

1089
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: like the bow side as well. It's called archery ballistics.

1090
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: So you with that he heads up display, we're actually

1091
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: going to give you like a little adjustment on where

1092
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: your ain point should be based on like angle compensation

1093
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: stuff happens.

1094
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: So back up a little bit because I haven't seen this.

1095
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we shoot. I brought the radio.

1096
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 4: Range finder, not a binocular.

1097
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, rangefinder, so full color display, seven times magnification on it.

1098
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: So we did some demo days when we were at

1099
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: shot and we were able to like the glasses so

1100
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: clearly like literally able to pick up bullet trace sitting

1101
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: behind Yeah. Nice.

1102
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just think you you see a bowl I'm

1103
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: thinking where we're at in Colorado, from the one ridge

1104
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: to the next, and you're thousand and fifteen hundred yards

1105
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: away range it it drops the pin on your garment

1106
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: and you go to that pin.

1107
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can laser locate or since they're locate,

1108
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: and then you can take that waypoint and navigate to

1109
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: a couple.

1110
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Of different Yeah, you give you a little bit of

1111
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: a navigation.

1112
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: You can actually do it in the display, or you

1113
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: can send that waypoint right over to your watch or

1114
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: to a handho or whatever you're running. We've got an

1115
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: app that runs with it called the Explore app, which

1116
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: has a bunch of mapping and stuff all into.

1117
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: So that putting it just like shooting it and seeing

1118
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: your watch and then just following it. That's insane. That's

1119
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: so cool.

1120
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: We should demo that at the el.

1121
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: Camp, oh, at the the Hunting at.

1122
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: The Help Hunt can Help camp in June. Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah,

1123
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: that would be great.

1124
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: That would be super cool in guy's hands, and see

1125
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: how awesome that is because you don't really know that

1126
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: until you're out there. I'm sure you know, there's several

1127
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: guys that have been in that situation. They're like, that's incredible,

1128
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: And some guys that are either relatively new or just

1129
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: not you're like or you know, haven't had that experience.

1130
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: So I, oh, well, I don't know what the big

1131
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: deal is, but it's a huge super been in that

1132
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: situation several times.

1133
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 4: Does the vino orry, does the range front a self stabilize.

1134
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: No self stabilization, it's just pure optics yea, yeah, yeah,

1135
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: yeah yeah for us right, Like now we've built out

1136
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: this whole zero team of people. Right there's two or

1137
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: three product managers in there, just going through and building

1138
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: out stuff for the hunting, the tactical space and helping drive.

1139
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: That's a good overlap between the two. You know a

1140
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: lot of guys are doing that and they're off season

1141
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: to get ready for tactical games. I even think about

1142
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: is another good one that could get into and and

1143
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: you know, use hunt to prep for it, but it

1144
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: also gives you that that target to no pun into.

1145
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: I never really, I don't know, I mean, it's just

1146
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: slipped my mind.

1147
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Never thought about archery version of technical games will be

1148
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: fun it.

1149
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: The adrenaline factor of it, because we think talk about

1150
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 3: that all the time about how can you practice kind

1151
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: of being in that high stress scenario without having to

1152
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: like be in front of an animal every single time?

1153
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: Like obviously, yeah, obviously, Harry Jack, that was the best

1154
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: thing you do. But being in competition, I would say,

1155
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: like you literally are in competition with the animal. You're

1156
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: in competition with other guys. You may not be shooting

1157
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: each other. You are shooting something something.

1158
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: Well, you're competing and nobody wants to lose. I don't care.

1159
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, I did have this question for you.

1160
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: Did you see the video that Nate made a few

1161
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 3: months ago.

1162
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

1163
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: Maybe that, but he was using the chrono and he

1164
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: was using it. He was like facing it towards him.

1165
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: I believe you have no idea.

1166
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: How when do you say facing it towards him? Does

1167
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: he have numbers coming out to him?

1168
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: No?

1169
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: Okay, he was shooting towards it, and I think it

1170
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: was still working the same way. I don't know.

1171
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: That's weird.

1172
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish, I wish I would.

1173
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: What a lot of the arch guys hold you right,

1174
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: is that you can go through and build your site

1175
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: tape out. So if you go through, when you move

1176
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: it down range, the gold try not to shoot it

1177
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: is one thing you want to. Yeah, but yeah, I

1178
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: just can snaggle loose.

1179
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's on thinking. I can't remember the video.

1180
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: I thought you'd maybe seen it and could elaborate. So

1181
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: I saw that you know what I'm talking about.

1182
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So besides obviously doing it traditionally, all he did

1183
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 4: do do is flip it one to eighty. Okay, So no,

1184
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: you're you're on, and the only difference is, I mean,

1185
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 4: you're still getting an accurate measurement because the arrow is

1186
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: flying over besides it right in front of you. He

1187
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: has it downrange to get his downrange speed.

1188
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: And that's one of the cool things that we've done

1189
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: with that product. Right, I'll see it a bunch of

1190
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: like PRS matches. Right, You'll have a whole line of

1191
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: guys and they'll be like, here's a garment, here's a garmen.

1192
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: Here's a garmen. Here's a garment. It's smart enough to

1193
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: only pick up my bullet within like a certain radius

1194
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: what I'm shooting over the top of.

1195
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: Crazy gosh.

1196
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 4: So I have a question. So you have a lot

1197
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: of range finders that specialize in archery. You're like, they're

1198
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: very accurate underneath two hundred yards, and then you have

1199
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: obviously your long range rifles. How was garman able to

1200
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: just create consistent accuracy from all the way from twenty

1201
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: all the way to you know, a thousand yards.

1202
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it really it comes down to, I mean,

1203
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: I wish I had a more detailed question for you.

1204
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: Part of it's our our ability to do our GPS

1205
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: stuff that we have, like our persisional acturcy on GPS

1206
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: is really really good. So we've just had a long

1207
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: history and our ability to go through and test that.

1208
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: And part of it is the way that we designed

1209
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: the range finding piece itself. So I want to say,

1210
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 1: it's like a point five by point five like beam

1211
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: diversion that goes out, So we've done a really good

1212
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: job of controlling that tolerance. The other big thing that

1213
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: we have in there is and I can get a

1214
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: little bit more technical on this piece, is the way

1215
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: that we confirm the range that you're getting back. So

1216
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: we use kind of a proprietary thing that basically, you

1217
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: send out this laser beam right and it needs to

1218
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: ping off something and come right back into you and

1219
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: you're looking for waves of stuff. And so the way

1220
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: that we do that is we have a very unique

1221
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: wave like pattern that happens, and we're we set it

1222
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of a higher standard in terms of what we

1223
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: need to see for those two match up to confirm

1224
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: that you're getting that specific accuracy.

1225
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: So, long story short, you just made it better.

1226
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: We just garment.

1227
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: We got a bunch of smart people me I know

1228
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 2: more than you said.

1229
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 3: Makes sense. The just the amount of experience and time

1230
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: you guys have doing GPS stuff. So obviously you guys

1231
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: are more advanced than a lot of other places, just

1232
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: because the amount of time you put into a special

1233
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: specializing on that. I mean, like that was like the

1234
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: first thing when when there was a GPS for your car,

1235
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: it was garment, like you would that was what you had,

1236
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: Like it was the first one I remember seeing. So

1237
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: like that, you just have the history of doing it

1238
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: so long.

1239
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's part of like our company Eat this

1240
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: right is like, well, whenever we're starting a product or

1241
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: a project, there's always like a white garment, Like we

1242
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: never want to like copycast something that's out there. It's like, Okay,

1243
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do that's different today? And how

1244
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: are we gonna go make a positive impact or a

1245
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: positive thing what people care about? Like, well, that's the

1246
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: sticky part, Like you have to go solve a true problem.

1247
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: You have to solve like give people a true product

1248
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: that matters to them to keep them coming back wanting

1249
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: to use it.

1250
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: And how are you guys how do you guys get

1251
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: like a pulse on that, like what kind of products

1252
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: like this rangefinder for example, Like obviously it's incredible, it's incredible.

1253
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: How do you get to know like, Okay, this is

1254
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: something that people definitely want.

1255
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of guys in the office that

1256
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: do all the stuff really like we go hire people

1257
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: that love it like that, like I love hunting, like

1258
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: all the guys that work on so much, Yeah we

1259
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: see or like the bow side is another one. We're like,

1260
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: oh man, we love to come up with an idea

1261
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: that does that, and all the guys that work on

1262
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: that are all bunch of archery guys. Yeah.

1263
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: How many states are you allowed to use it in now?

1264
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think there's four or five western

1265
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: states where it's illegal, So it's the vast majority of

1266
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: it it's legal. And yeah yeah, so really Midwest East

1267
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: coast is good and so one thing I and this

1268
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: is like marketing perspective type stuff and like I love

1269
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: the Western piece of it, like it's like exciting and

1270
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's like challenging to go do. But if

1271
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you look at like the population density of hunters, it's

1272
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: Midwest and East like I think Pennsylvania has the highest

1273
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: number of hunting tax sold a capita. So it's like,

1274
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: as much as I wish like that both that was

1275
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: because it's applications specific for great for West.

1276
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so weird that it's the fair chase whatever.

1277
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: But it's like I don't it's more I can talk,

1278
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, I could talk on that for a while.

1279
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: And this is like it's like the light, you know,

1280
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: not allowed to have a light in your sight, Like

1281
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have a light like a spotlight on your boat,

1282
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: but having a little bit of like you know, the

1283
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: battery light on your pins is it's.

1284
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Ethical, you know, it is. So this and this has

1285
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: been an educational piece for me through my time at

1286
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: at Garment and kind of coming into the hunting. Hunting

1287
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Speaker 1: space is I think part of it goes back to

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Speaker 1: a scarce steam mindset and a little bit and more

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Speaker 1: limited opportunities at big game in the West, right, And

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Speaker 1: there's some history there, like it's hard, it's you're more

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Speaker 1: likely to kill a white tail, so it's easier, so

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Speaker 1: people are maybe a little less like protective of it.

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Speaker 1: And then out West with like Pope and Young and

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00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: those guys, there's a little bit more heritage there that

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Speaker 1: they and I think it's part of what we love

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00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: that boa hunting. It's hard, like when we like the

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Speaker 1: history that but at the same time, we're all shooting

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: compound bows that can reach out to like an it's

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: pretty dan easy. And so what it comes down to

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Speaker 1: me it does, like you talked about now, is like

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Speaker 1: it puts you in a spot to make the best

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Speaker 1: shot possible, which is what we want every single time.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to

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00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: put in the time, energy and effort to get that shot.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's always been my stance on it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, see, I just I can't what is what

1307
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: is their stance exactly on not saying it's not.

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Speaker 2: Part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a mixture of like fair chase, and

1310
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: then a lot of them are like old long standing

1311
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: rules that existed before that came out. It's like you

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00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: can't use any electronics yep. So it's this overarching thing

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: that didn't predict the future. And you have a lot

1314
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: of like kind of an older demographic or people have

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00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: been around it for a long time that don't want

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Speaker 1: that to change. And that's understandable.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that the lawmakers are just uneducated on

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Speaker 4: what's actually like ins them itself.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a mixture of it's cultural. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just like.

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Speaker 2: All they care about is selling them off, sewing off

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00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: the land.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about Yeah, uh, it's it's just culture.

1324
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: Like people are afraid of change and and and a

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00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of that right is like now elk hunting in

1326
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: the Western hunting is such a big thing on social

1327
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: media and a lot of people are coming in. So

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00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: now you're driving up that heighten awareness of like limited resources.

1329
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: So anything you can do to like limit the number

1330
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: of things that are taken they want to do. From

1331
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: my perspective, it's you're likely injuring less animals and you're

1332
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Speaker 1: not driving higher harvestrates.

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Speaker 4: And I can also see it from their perspective too,

1334
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: like if you're creating all this electronics electronics, electronics when exactly.

1335
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Speaker 3: Yeah that it is.

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00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: It is, but I do slippery slope for sure. It's

1337
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: not like a clear for me.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly why we have like the agencies we have

1339
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: in place to go through and study and monitor like

1340
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the resources like this and shouldn't be right because at

1341
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like we all love animals

1342
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: way more than you know, a lot of people would

1343
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: ever expect, right, and we want to make sure that

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00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: they're taken care of and protected.

1345
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: And vegans and hunters want the same exact thing. Just yeah,

1346
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: there's different routes.

1347
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Right, and there's a totally different rats.

1348
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: That's so true, so true. Well cool dude, man, that's

1349
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: that's awesome.

1350
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a Garment's just got so much crazy stuff that,

1351
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: like it just bogg was my mind. Like the the

1352
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: rangefinder was, like it really blew my mind. It was

1353
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: really cool. Uh, just like being able to drop the

1354
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: way point and go right to it happening on your watch.

1355
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: That's I think that that can be game changing.

1356
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: Using the watch this weekend. Yeah, trudging through the woods, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And for me, right, it's like I'm

1358
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: just a small town Iowa kid that somehow went this

1359
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: awesome job that I expected to have. But it's like,

1360
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: and I know, faced a big part of like what

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: you guys do, and like looking back on like my

1362
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: youth as like a big church camp kid I went

1363
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: and I remember one thing I've played harder on was

1364
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: like what am I going to do in life? Like

1365
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: what I want to go accomplish? And I came out

1366
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: of that thinking I knew the answer. I'm gonna go

1367
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: be a teacher. And I literally get home and it's like, oh,

1368
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: here's like I got a full righted juco for two years,

1369
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: but it has to be in STEM and injuring technology.

1370
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: It's like that's what led me down the engineering path

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00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: and like that eventually, like the archery stuff happened. So

1372
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Speaker 1: it's like, I feel unbelievably blessed to be in the

1373
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: job that I am at and I love the company

1374
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: that I'm at, Like they're getting big, right, we talked

1375
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: about there's like seven thousand people, but looking at the

1376
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: history of it, it started with twelve guys that had a vision. Yeah,

1377
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: and that small because of a small town kid from Iowa.

1378
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: I still feel that small town like by that garment

1379
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: and like I hope I have the opportunity to retire there. Right,

1380
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: it's like the second dob Ever.

1381
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's awesome. Cool. Yeah, you guys want to

1382
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: test out some of the stuff, maybe we'll have you

1383
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: send some stuff to the Maham Hunt camp.

1384
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, appreciate it.

1385
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: Which will be soon. We'll put out something sounds like

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: hopefully very soon, very very soon, very very soon, promises cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, appreciure that.

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Speaker 2: A Yeah man, we didn't even have to go to

1389
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Speaker 2: any os.

1390
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Speaker 3: No, No, I knew, I knew that. Yeah, we had

1391
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: a bunch of avenues we were gonna I still have

1392
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: a lot more questions, especially when he said, especially when

1393
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 3: he said he he grew up in Iowa, have be

1394
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: didn't hunt. I was like, oh, yeah, we got to school.

1395
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: Get that in there. That's funny.

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: That sucks some day and lure him at is like

1397
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: the like I scroll through like my high school buddies

1398
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: deer season, it's like a cool, nice one ninety like

1399
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah cut you know, we have a

1400
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: great deer where we're at. But it's like one sixties

1401
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: seventies you find out school, but like.

1402
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: I shout an out, it's one me too.

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: I think that might be over two hundred barely.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,