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Speaker 1: Doubs Tennis Podcast. What a freaking joke. I cannot even

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Janick Internet, Janick Cinternet.

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Speaker 2: I have so many nicknames, Sina Sina, Chicken Dinner, Yanick Sinternet,

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Speaker 1: To be the title of the podcast, stop being happy, stuppy.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Obviously, Darren knows how to handle these moments.

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Speaker 1: He's been there with so many great players, and he

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Speaker 1: knows how to manage this next twenty four hours, which

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Speaker 1: is very, very important for someone like that, which is

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Speaker 1: the most understated thing about coaches, and in my opinion,

437
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Speaker 1: if you have there's so many players out there that

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Speaker 1: will remain nameless that I feel like the situation overwhelms

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Speaker 1: him because their coach also has no idea how to

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Speaker 1: handle those moments. And I think that that's what you know,

441
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Speaker 1: are players out there that want to win Grand Slams.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a p if you don't have

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Speaker 1: people around you that know how to handle those moments

444
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Speaker 1: or handle you, that's what you have to look for

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Speaker 1: in a coach, or for the first time, at least

446
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Speaker 1: for the first time, because now Darren can walk him

447
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Speaker 1: through this is.

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Speaker 2: What you will go through. This, this is what will

449
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Speaker 2: hit you. These are the emotions that might come, might not,

450
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Speaker 2: but might come, and this is how you can handle them.

451
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Speaker 2: So when you see them, you're like, ah, I knew

452
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Speaker 2: this was coming, and I'll accept it and move forward.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things is stop being so happy.

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Speaker 2: I guess that stop being happy.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's true. I mean I mean, just

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Speaker 1: throw a little conversation with Sam Stozer and many many

457
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Speaker 1: many years ago when she made the semi finals of

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Speaker 1: the French Open and wanted to. She was so excited

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Speaker 1: about wanting to go and thank her friends that had

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Speaker 1: come to watch her at the French Open. And I

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Speaker 1: said no, I said, I think you just need to

462
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Speaker 1: get on the bike and like cool down like you've

463
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Speaker 1: done every single match, like stick to the routine. And

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Speaker 1: it's very Routines are very important for players because it

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Speaker 1: does keep you in the mindset of wanting to win

466
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Speaker 1: the next match and not being overawed by Oh, this

467
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Speaker 1: is awesome. I've made the semis yay. I mean, you

468
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Speaker 1: know what it feels like. So anyway, I was a

469
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Speaker 1: phenomenal effort yesterday from Yannick and I said last year

470
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Speaker 1: he was ready to step up the win a Grand Slam,

471
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Speaker 1: and I felt like Strain Open was a good one

472
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Speaker 1: for him to win. So it's looking pretty good.

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Speaker 2: So he will have a tired opponent.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, danil Mevedev, that motherfucker he is. He's

475
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Speaker 1: got he's I said, this one, he's got an ex

476
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Speaker 1: He's either got a chip missing or an extra chip.

477
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Speaker 1: I think it actually might be an extra chip. I

478
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Speaker 1: think he's so smart and he's so thoughtful in his brain.

479
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Speaker 1: You see his postmatch interviews. I can tell you that

480
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Speaker 1: I interviewed him after this match, the ship that goes

481
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Speaker 1: through his mind and how he weaves it all and

482
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Speaker 1: puts it all together, and he remembers every point. And

483
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Speaker 1: he told me after the match about even at four

484
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Speaker 1: all in the fourth set tiebreak, when the double fault,

485
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Speaker 1: hit the double fault, He's like, it was such a

486
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Speaker 1: bad ball task. Why did I hit it? I'm such

487
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Speaker 1: an idiot, Like that's how I'm going to lose the

488
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Speaker 1: match on a double fault, you know. And I was

489
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Speaker 1: sitting next to Tommy Hass and Tommy has said to me,

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Speaker 1: this is just going to come down to one bad

491
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Speaker 1: unforced era literally at four all, he said, and then

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Speaker 1: he hit the double and he goes like that, oh

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Speaker 1: my god. And then he locked down. He locked down

494
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Speaker 1: and didn't make an error, and Vera sort of shot

495
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Speaker 1: himself in the foot with that.

496
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Speaker 2: But well, to match, let's start with the first two sets.

497
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Speaker 1: Medvedev played so shit in the first two sets. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: and no back played shit the.

499
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Speaker 2: First two said interesting, right, yeah, it is so interesting. Well,

500
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Speaker 2: the first two sets, it has to be said, Vera

501
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: played fucking fantastic, fucking fantastic. He continued his crazy ass

502
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Speaker 2: serving at eighty percent with accuracy and over two hundred

503
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Speaker 2: k's and now that's like one hundred and thirty miles

504
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Speaker 2: per hour. And he's serving his spots and he's he's

505
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Speaker 2: making eighty percent of those. That's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: And I'm considering the dude was like a double fault

507
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Speaker 1: king a couple of years ago. I mean, he's like

508
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Speaker 1: Sa Blenca all of a sudden, like, oh, they remembered

509
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Speaker 1: how to hit a serve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and Jim Courier said something on the broadcast

511
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Speaker 2: really interesting. He said, for those of you who don't

512
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Speaker 2: maybe play tennis on a regular basis but play golf,

513
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Speaker 2: this is what it's comparable to. Somebody who has a

514
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Speaker 2: great drive and hits the shite out of the ball.

515
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Speaker 2: They rarely ever make the free, the green, the fairway.

516
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Speaker 2: I don't play golf, as you can I can help

517
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Speaker 2: you can tell they rarely ever make the fair because

518
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Speaker 2: you lose on accuracy when you hit the ball. So

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Speaker 2: he was saying that Zverev is basically one of these

520
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Speaker 2: big drivers. Yes, but he also making the fairway every

521
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Speaker 2: single time, like or eighty percent of the time. This

522
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Speaker 2: is incredible. So he was playing well, he just continued

523
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Speaker 2: his great quality of play from the Alcoraz match. He

524
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Speaker 2: was not missing his forehead, he was coming to the net.

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Speaker 2: He played tactically smart. He kept coming to the net

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Speaker 2: on his serves. He played servant valet. He made some

527
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Speaker 2: incredible volleys because a terrible vollet. He also hit some

528
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Speaker 2: hollacious volleys. Yes, there was no in between. Yes, like

529
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Speaker 2: you hit a couple of It was either at Bagh

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Speaker 2: or Andrea Petkovich.

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Speaker 1: You're going to say me, but it's okay, I'm just kidding.

532
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: It's either me or you. But it went better and

533
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he decided to be you

534
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Speaker 1: at the net and then have my forehand at times

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Speaker 1: where it was just ugly. Honestly, there were a couple

536
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Speaker 1: of volleys that he messed last night. I was like,

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Speaker 1: the first thing out of my mouth was, how do

538
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Speaker 1: you miss that volley? The high forehand volley. It's like

539
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Speaker 1: he it's like you can have the whole court, and

540
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Speaker 1: you're like, if I'm up there in his coaching box,

541
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Speaker 1: my sphinx is tight every time he goes in the

542
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Speaker 1: four and volley, because you're like, what's going to happen here?

543
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Speaker 1: He made the hard volleys. He didn't make the easy.

544
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Speaker 1: He seems to have his swings too much on it exactly.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't use his body. Actually, I mean, I've never

546
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Speaker 2: had great vollice, but I learned volas in the end

547
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Speaker 2: of my career, and so that's why I know how

548
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Speaker 2: you can actually learn Voalain. I used to own your body, yes,

549
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Speaker 2: because you know that I in the end, I was

550
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Speaker 2: bollying actually fine, And what I did a lot is

551
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Speaker 2: valet volley the first ten to fifteen minutes before every

552
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Speaker 2: practice to improve them. And I quickly realize when you're

553
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Speaker 2: tired and without intensity and you just use your arm,

554
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: you get so tired in your arm, and of course

555
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Speaker 2: that translates to a five set match. If you get

556
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Speaker 2: tired and you just play with your arm, your arm

557
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Speaker 2: is tired. But when you use a little bit of

558
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Speaker 2: your glue, it's not your arm and your body.

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Speaker 1: Your rest the most important thing. Because trust me, now

560
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Speaker 1: that I'm old, you know, when I go to hit

561
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Speaker 1: my volleys, I'm like, oh my god, I'll miss them

562
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Speaker 1: because not because my hands. My hands can still hit

563
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Speaker 1: the volley as well as any time in my career.

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Speaker 1: It's the legs, my legs aren't there. Leg you have

565
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Speaker 1: to get low with your legs and you have to

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Speaker 1: use your legs and use your body to hit volleys

567
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Speaker 1: really well. And that's why Stefan Eirberg, Patrick Rafter, all

568
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Speaker 1: these guys that were amazing at the net, they would

569
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Speaker 1: get downloaded the volley and then they would just literally

570
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Speaker 1: use the pace of the ball coming at them just

571
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Speaker 1: to hit it into the open core. That's a classic volley.

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, if the legs aren't there,

573
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Speaker 1: you're snatching a little bit at it and using your

574
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Speaker 1: hands way too much. And that's what happened to him

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Speaker 1: yesterday on some big occasions.

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Speaker 2: And it just shows you that it's not quite in

577
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: his nature yet, Like, yes, he did it great, and

578
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: he knew the game plan is against somebody who stands

579
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: a billion miles behind the baseline and you have to

580
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Speaker 2: come into the net and try and play some drop shots.

581
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Speaker 2: And I like that he went for it. And then

582
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: he was like this the game plan I'm pulling through.

583
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Speaker 2: But in those moments where he missed, especially the high

584
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: forehand volleys, I'm not sure what's up with that. Just

585
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: swing it. But then he did that one time and

586
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: he almost killed somebody in the audience when he's not.

587
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Speaker 1: He no, he will get better. And look, his brother

588
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: Mish was an incredible servant volleyer and come into the net.

589
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: So here's somebody I maybe like me kep coaching someone

590
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: to come in. You know, that's all we did. You know,

591
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: that was our game. You you learn through just keep

592
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: doing it, doing it, doing it, and then the technique

593
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: will get better. So I think that will improve now

594
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: that his brother is with him all the time.

595
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: And he played two fantastic sets. Daniel couldn't make a

596
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: surf to save his life, especially in the first set.

597
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: Got a bit better in the second, but still was

598
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Speaker 2: kind of a and then Renee stubs the What happened

599
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: he turned it around and for it.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. What happened is that he said this

601
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: after in my interview with him as well, is that

602
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: he decided he didn't have his legs. He's played like

603
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: a thousand hours in this tournament, and he said, look,

604
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: my legs weren't there, and I knew they weren't there,

605
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: so there's no way that I could play a really

606
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: long point over and over and over again. So I

607
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: had to be a lot more aggressive than I wanted

608
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: to be. And if you watch him play, he's so

609
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: funny because I've watched a couple of matches now really

610
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: caught side, so I see the pace of the ball

611
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: a lot better than you do on television. There are

612
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: times where he literally deliberately hits the ball slow. Yes,

613
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: he literally has a whole court and he just rolls

614
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: it up really slow because he knows that that takes

615
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: effort from his opponent to then create his own pace.

616
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Speaker 1: And to create your own pace, you have to actually

617
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: be quite physical with your own legs. Where if the

618
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: ball's coming at you kind of fast, you can just

619
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: swing your arm, yeah, because the ball comes onto you

620
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: and then you just swing, Whereas if it's slow, you

621
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: got to get your legs up to it and then

622
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: you have to swing. And then you're inside the court.

623
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Do you go forward? Do you have to then come

624
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: back because now you're playing against the guy that you

625
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: know is going to push you back. So there's this

626
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: like quite amazing great passer. Also a great passer, ridiculous

627
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: passer at the net. Unless you hit an incredible approach

628
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: ot you're getting passed. This guy can create an angle

629
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: off his forehand and off his backhand, and you know

630
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: how I feel about coming in on the backhand. It's

631
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: very hard to go cross court with the top spin

632
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: backhand with a really hard angle. There's only a few

633
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: players that can do it, and he is one of them, actually,

634
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Sasha as well Angie Kerba, Like I think about Angie's

635
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: ability at that angle, but there's only a few players

636
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: that have a really strong left wrist that actually where

637
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: they can create an an almost like a left handed

638
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: forehand angle, and he's one of those. So it's such

639
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: this mind fuck for you as a player, like do

640
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I come in on that when it's floating or do

641
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: I stay back? And particularly so zerif he struggles when

642
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: there's no pace to his forehand. And there was one

643
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: particular shot in the tie break I think it was

644
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: or it was a huge point, and Medvedev hit this

645
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like just really slowish ball to his forehand and he

646
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: dumped it in the net. I think it might have

647
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: been the fifth And I looked at John Fitzgerald, who

648
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: was caught sided as well with me, and I love,

649
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: I said, he did you see that? I said, he

650
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: deliberately hit that ball slow. He had the whole court.

651
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: He could have done anything he want and he just

652
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: rolled it and literally swear I've hit it in the

653
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: bottom of the net. Well, and this he's so smart.

654
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: But this destroys you mentally because if somebody hits a winner,

655
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: you're like, two good, Maybe I need more depth on

656
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: my next shot. That's the one thought, the one thought

657
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: process when somebody hits a winner is either two, oh

658
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: my god. When you know, when somebody hits like full

659
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: run down the line, you're like, okay, whatever.

660
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: When he hits a good winner, you're like two good

661
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: or I need more depth.

662
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Those are the two thoughts in your head. When you

663
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: roll a forehand into the bottom of your shoe, your

664
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: thought process is, oh my god, I don't hear my forehead,

665
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: at my choking, at my nervous What do I do?

666
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: I have to hit higher? Maybe I should run round

667
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: and play beckons. That looks ridiculous. Oh I can't be

668
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: hitting beckhends from the center of the cords. But maybe

669
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: what have you gone through your mind?

670
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Well, and then you are a very similar player like

671
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: that because your fourhand was the one that went off

672
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you're like, should I run around

673
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: my forehand in the middle of the court. That looks

674
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: so stupid, but it is true. And I just think

675
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: he tacked. He is such a smart tennis player attactively

676
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: and he reminds me a little bit. Novack is similar.

677
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Noback will play a slow one. He will kind of

678
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: like tempt you. Andre Agassi was a little bit like

679
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: that where he tortured you from side to side and

680
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: he didn't finish points off when he knew he could

681
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: because he wanted to torture you physically. And Daniel also

682
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: said to me after that he saw that that Sasha

683
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: was struggling physically and he saw as well. And I

684
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: promise you when I tell you this. In the fifth set,

685
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: because I was right there twenty feet from him, Medvedev

686
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: looked fresher in the fifth than it did in the first.

687
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, and I don't know why it, Like he.

688
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Went and had a shower combed his hair. I was like,

689
00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: this is.

690
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: A different two degree burns.

691
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: He did tell me that it was because of the tawl.

692
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't the sun. I was like, okay, bro, but

693
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: his I think the bottom line is, and we're going

694
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: to give you a revelation. Hit people, you know when

695
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: he comes back and wins this match. We all know

696
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: that Shody hit at five all in the tiebreak was

697
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: so lucky, but also lucky favors the Brave. Maybe there's

698
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: some karma in that that shank just putting it out there,

699
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: But physically Zverev was done in the fifth. You could

700
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: tell by the way he looked at his player box.

701
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: It was like, fuck, I'm going to do this again.

702
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose this huge match having, you know,

703
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win it, blah blah blah. And you

704
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: can just tell when you're looking up at your brother

705
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: and your dad, your face is different than it is

706
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: when you look at your coach. It's kind of like,

707
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: help me, I can't believe you know, as opposed to

708
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: fuck you and you know, all the shit. But to me,

709
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the fact that Medvedev wins and turns around and he

710
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: looks at his coach and says, kalma, kalma. Not karma,

711
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: because that would have been funny too, but it was

712
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: kalma because he said to me in the postmatch interview

713
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: that he's working so hard on keeping himself calm on

714
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: the court and being not being a psycho, not looking

715
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: at somebody in the crowd and getting annoyed at them,

716
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: or somebody says something in the crowd and he loses

717
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: his mind. Novak uses that as fuel. Daniel gets crazy

718
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: because he starts losing his mind, and plus he doesn't

719
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: like the crowd against him. Novak I think thrives on it.

720
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Daniel doesn't really. Everyone says, yes he does. He plays

721
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: the villain really well, but he doesn't. He's a nice guy.

722
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: He likes people liking him. And I think that he

723
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: had decided prior to coming into the new year that

724
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: he was going to try and work on being calm

725
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: on the karma on the court and not losing his shit.

726
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: And I asked him about being a dad now and

727
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: how he and he talked about his daughter, and then

728
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: he said he had a brain fart before the tournament

729
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: started where he lost his mind practicing a practice set

730
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: against Raunich and he threw his racket over the fence

731
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: and and Jill's were like, what happened to the car man?

732
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Like you know, He's like, ah, fuck, I lost his

733
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: But he said the most important thing is if I

734
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: lose it, it's once a week, and I'm going to

735
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: stop it to try and get to a point where

736
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm not losing it. And if you watch that match yesterday,

737
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: he was so kind.

738
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: He really was.

739
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: He was surprised he's playing the tie breaks. It was

740
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: like it was like a practice set.

741
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, it was. It was really amazing. And the one

742
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: time when he did yell a little bit was in

743
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: the first in the first set, when he just couldn't

744
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: hit make a serf, he had three double faults in

745
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: a row to give Sasha a double break. That's like

746
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: whenever you have seen that from from him. That was

747
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: the one time when he and also much less than

748
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: he usually does. That's right, But he kind of looked

749
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: at was like, what is going on with my surf?

750
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: And can we one have take five seconds to talk

751
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: about Jail's fashion? Oh my god, I love the guy

752
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: from the choker with the like weird pendance of wolves

753
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: on it to the Chicago Red Bulls cap, like the

754
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls.

755
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: You can't call them the Red Bulls because this proves

756
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: how much you don't watch basketball.

757
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: I really don't. I really don't, But it.

758
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Was your boyfriend Jesse just had a heart attack. Balls.

759
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: What was his favorite team? I think the Red Bulls.

760
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: It's a soccer team that's a.

761
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: New York just like from the Chicago Balls, with the

762
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: joker up the wolf, like what is gone somewhere stuck

763
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: between the nineties and the two thousands. I absolutely love

764
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: it with the with like the and my absolute favorite

765
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: shot of him ever was during the pandemic when Medvedev

766
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: sent him away and there was no just the biggest

767
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: stadium and you just see him walking up the stairs

768
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: slowly and there's nobody so you just see him walking

769
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 2: up the stairs alone and.

770
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: It felt like twenty five minutes while he was leaving. Yeah,

771
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, of course, Medvedev was like, yo, just leave,

772
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: get out of here. And he's like, just goes okay,

773
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: and he just turns around and starts walking as slow

774
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: as a wet week going up those stets. You can

775
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: just hear person in the stadium.

776
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: You can just hear the steps echoing from the like

777
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: metal of the stairs is like blowing, blowing, clwing and

778
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: sea jail.

779
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely same with this Chicago Red Bulls chef. They just

780
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I tell you, they have such a great relationship. And

781
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: also the funny thing about sending him out is that

782
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: there's always no one else in this in the box,

783
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: although there's a few more people in the box this time,

784
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: so he's he's realized that maybe he needs a physio,

785
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe he needs an agent there, like you know, all

786
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: the things. So I look, I'm going to say it

787
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: out loud, I'm so happy to see Danielle Mabber they

788
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: get through that match and make the finals. I think

789
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: everyone knows probably why, but I just think that he

790
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: is an incredible fighter. I think that he's I think

791
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and he handled that moment better.

792
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: And is he physically going to be able to come

793
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: back in a day? I want to because he was dying,

794
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: his legs were dying. I've never seen him like kind

795
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: of run to a ball and not hit a proper foehand.

796
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: He'd like slap a couple four hands back, and I

797
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: was like, ah, And this will.

798
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: Be a great challenge for Yann because he will have

799
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: to play those volleys that they practiced so much. But

800
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: now he really will have to because we saw it

801
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: all the players who have beaten Medvedev in the past.

802
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: Let's say a few months we're coming to the net

803
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: Novak at the US Open final, he was playing serve

804
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: and valley at least twice the service.

805
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I think he will. I think that Darren will recognize that,

806
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: and his coaching crew will recognize and he and he

807
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: there's no question his volleys.

808
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: Perhaps absolutely, and they will put like with Zverev, it

809
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: will put them to the test. And Zverev did so

810
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: well for two sets.

811
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: And frankly, if Zverev had made the volleys all of them, yeah,

812
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: or at least the easy ones, not the tough ones.

813
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: He hit some incredible half volleys, some incredible lunging volleys,

814
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: but it was the easy ones that cost him, like

815
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: put him down fifteen forty instead of being thirty, or

816
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: for example, or in the tie breaking five two instead

817
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: of four to three. So little things like that. So

818
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: I think Yannick, we'll see, they will be tested. And

819
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: of course the final is very different to a semi final.

820
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: This is the biggest match of Yannick's life, you know.

821
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: Of course, Daniel has been there many times now, particularly

822
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: here in Melbourne where he has had that match on

823
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: his own racket against Nadal a couple of years ago.

824
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's a lot of people pulling for

825
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: him to get that title. I For one, I love

826
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: Janick Sinner. He is just the greatest guy. But I

827
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: really like Daniel memberdev and when you I actually hugged

828
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: both of them because I got to I'm so blessed

829
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: to be able to like interview these guys.

830
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: For one second, this was going into cringe cringe but

831
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: creepy territory because I thought your sentence would I'm so

832
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: lucky to be in the position to hug these.

833
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: What I'm in, what I got on pride, not what

834
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying is they're both so skinny and tall. It's

835
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: like I'm hugging them around their stomach, you know, And

836
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: they have zero fat on them and they have zero muscle.

837
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: They're both the two skinniest dudes of all the time.

838
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Like I think my wrapped around myself because they're so skinny.

839
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: But they are just the great competitors. I think it's

840
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: an amazing moment. I don't really care who wins.

841
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: I just want to see And I really think we

842
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: talked about it briefly and one of the other podcasts.

843
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: I really think Novak because some you know how some

844
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: people argue, well, Rogia Federer, he puts such a stamp

845
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: on the game and of course he did. It's Rogia

846
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Federer talking about the silhouette theory. You know, when you

847
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: see a silhouette of Rogia Federer or Rafael Nadal, you

848
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: know exactly who that is, which is like, it's this

849
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: theory that if you can recognize somebody by the silhouette there,

850
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: that's an instant icon, right. And but I do think

851
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: that Novak has influenced the game in a different way.

852
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: One body types. We have a completely different body type. Now.

853
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: All four guys in the semi finals were tall guys,

854
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: skinny guys who move incredibly well, who are not so

855
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: bulked up. And if you think about ten years ago

856
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: when Novak started his dominance the tongas, it was the birdage,

857
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: it was the all these guys that are really rafa

858
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: even who are really muscular, who are top heavy, who

859
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: are you know, get injured quicker because you have to

860
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: carry a lot of weight, especially on the hard courts,

861
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: and how long these matches last. So he has changed

862
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: the game and we will see more of these type

863
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: of bodies on the men's tour, and you will get

864
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: more really skinny, muscless body type body guys to hug

865
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: and in a not creepy way.

866
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: In a non creepy way around their waist, because they'll

867
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: be a little bit shorter. But you know, when you

868
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: think about Carlos al Karas, he's kind of in that

869
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: rafa exactly, and he's getting injured, and both of them

870
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: get injured, and.

871
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: I think this is really one of Novak has many legacies,

872
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: but this is one of his that he's starting to

873
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: change the body type of the best men's players that

874
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: we see out there. I have two questions for you

875
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: before we go. One question is where do you think

876
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: Novak goes from here? And what do you see in

877
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: the future for zvere if Willy have another opportunity at

878
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: a Slam, Because I do think his gaze improved tremendously

879
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: over the course of the last year. You played the

880
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: best he's ever played here.

881
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: As as much as it pains me to say, I

882
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: think that's very will be around for a long time,

883
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: unless you know, something else happens in his life. But

884
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be at the latter parts

885
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: of a Grand Slam. I think you probably will break

886
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: through at some point. I think the French Open is

887
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: actually probably his best, and I think the US Open.

888
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

889
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: We'll see. There's no question he's good enough to win

890
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: a Grand Slam, but mentally that's going to be the

891
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: hurdle because now he has some serious scar tissues. He

892
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: only lost two five setters, being two sets to Love

893
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: US Open final semifinals of austraight up, and I'm sorry.

894
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: That's scar tissue and it's hard to chip that away

895
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: from the brain when it's happened to you many times.

896
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: And you're only going to run into great plays in

897
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: the semison finals who know they can win. So we'll

898
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: see what I think that Novak goes back to work,

899
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: gets himself prepared to win the French Open. You know,

900
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: he said that he wants to win all four Grand

901
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Slams this year. That's never not going to happen, but

902
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: he'd probably like to try and sweep the rest and

903
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: win a gold medal at in Paris. Novak's going to

904
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: go back to work. He knows that he played a

905
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: terrible match, he knows that he probably didn't prepare the

906
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: way he wanted to leading in here. He knows he

907
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: was a little bit sick. So he'll be back, there's

908
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: no question about it. We'll see but it gets harder.

909
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: He does get harder, get harder.

910
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: And I think this because he knows.

911
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: He's only got a couple of years left.

912
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I think and I think there's bad

913
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: news for his fans. I think he will play even

914
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: less after this. I think he will play even less.

915
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 2: I think we will see him even less on the tour.

916
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: I think the two most important things for him this

917
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: year will be Wimbledon. He wants that crown back and

918
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: he wants to you know, Avenge, yes, just because he

919
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: was so close to getting that Grand Slam last year.

920
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: I think Wimbledon and then the Olympic Games will be

921
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: his main, main, main goal this year. And I believe

922
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: that he will be the strongest contender to this because

923
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: we know when Novak sets his mind to something and

924
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: he puts everything else aside, it's very very hard to

925
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: beat him. But it's best you're getting closer, and it's

926
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: best of three.

927
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: That's the difference with the Olympics. It's best of three sets.

928
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: And these guys, all all of them, all of them

929
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: know that they can beat him over best of three,

930
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: and it's that's the difference maker at the Grand Slams,

931
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: which is why it was what Yanick did yesterday were

932
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: so impressive. Is that sure he played like shit for

933
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: two sets, but you still go to win three. Yeah,

934
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: you got to win the thirty. Yes, And you know

935
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: you could tell that. Yannick said, if this is like

936
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: a whole different story. You know when I lost at

937
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: third set, he was like, but the way he bounced

938
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: back after losing that first set was incredible. And I'm

939
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: telling you, running for that drop shot. Every kid out

940
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: there run for every frickin' ball. You know why, because

941
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: when you run for every ball like that, even if

942
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: you're losing, I mean, it's one thing if you're like,

943
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see Medvedev maybe running for that ball at

944
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: forty love against Verev last night, because you do have

945
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: to conserve energy at some point. But he didn't need

946
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: to conserve energy. He was two sets easy, lost a

947
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: first set, but this guy could play five says easily,

948
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: and he's physically very, very fit. But it was more

949
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: about setting the tone of I am going to run

950
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: for every ball against you, and so if you're going

951
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: to hit the shot, you better hit it perfect because

952
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to run for it. And that sends a

953
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: sense of anxiety to your opponent. And I felt like, no,

954
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: that got really anxious after that point because he's like, shit,

955
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't got anything, very similar to how alcohorized

956
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: was when he won. He ran for every ball and

957
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: that just makes you.

958
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: And what's the thing that is the DNA of Novakdjokovic

959
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: is run for everyone, which is like, fuck, this guy

960
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: doesn't go away, and.

961
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: He's not going to go away anyway, all right, So

962
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: just one more thing.

963
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, I know I'm always make the song, but I

964
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: always get wait for practice and I'm sorry, but you

965
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: say something that inspires me for something else. And this

966
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: is the last I swear there was an because we

967
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: always talk about how important tactics and game plan is

968
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: and another just another proof how really important they I

969
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: especially on these stages where they were so little separates.

970
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: These guys med the day the first two and a

971
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: half sets, sixty percent of a zverevs.

972
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Backhand what the fuck again?

973
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: Like Carlos al Karaz sixty percent, and then the number

974
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: shifted slightly over the course of the third and fourth set,

975
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: and eventually in the fifth set it was all into

976
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: the not all into the forehum, but the most majority

977
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: into the forehand, and yes, Veref was tired and so

978
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: on and so forth.

979
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: But tactics on these stages matter so so much, especially

980
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: when some sars getting tired, because the bad technique will

981
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: will fail. And we saw that with the and also

982
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: has very hit the double fault for the first time

983
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: at a really crucial moment as well, and that tells

984
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: you as an opponent, Oh okay, the fallacies or the

985
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: weaknesses are going to come back under pressure, so stay

986
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: in there. But I also think Medvedev did that because

987
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Medvedev feels like no one beats him in the back end.

988
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: It's not why, and he doesn't miss his backcand cross court.

989
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: It's like what are you doing hitting it? That kind

990
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: of thing. So it'd be interesting to see Yanixina handles that.

991
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: But it's almost like, ah, good luck betting me, and

992
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: then of a sudden he's like he is betting me there,

993
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: So I bet it.

994
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Think he can't play these like sitters slow shots that

995
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: he does with other players, because Yank when he has

996
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: a sitter and he goes around and sets up for

997
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: his forehead, young fall does not miss, Young.

998
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: Fol does not miss. We will see all right, So today,

999
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: of course, Tonight is the women's final with chin Win

1000
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: and Arena, and we can't wait to see that one.

1001
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: Arena Arena on Rod labor Arenas puns for days great one.

1002
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, looking forward to that, I hope chin Win

1003
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: turns up and plays her best, that she gets a

1004
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: little bit more first serves in the court, because that's

1005
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: been the biggest down for her. She said, the most

1006
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: double faults of anyone in the tour tournament and the

1007
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: most ass by a long way. And then you've got

1008
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: Arena who's serving well, hitting reasonable amount of aces and

1009
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: barely any double faults. What the hell happened in two years?

1010
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: We will talk about it all tomorrow.

1011
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: We can't wait. So it's gonna be a great final

1012
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: and we'll let you know how it goes. And looking forward,

1013
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the men's final as well.

1014
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic. All right, guys, thanks for

1015
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: joining us again today. We'll see you tomorrow and.

1016
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: I can subscribe like and subscribe, like and subscribe.

1017
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: That's what you say on podcast, Yeah, like and subscribe.

1018
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. For now, thanks for joining us

1019
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: today and it's time for us to go and have

1020
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,120
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