WEBVTT - NFL Pressure Points

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<v Speaker 1>They Around the NFL podcast. He needs a sleepover at

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<v Speaker 1>Mark's man cave.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Dan Hansis, and I got heroes here, Greg Roosevelt

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Sessler. Sestog, you got a man cave. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to your place. I don't recall her being a

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated man cave, nor have I ever seen you as

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<v Speaker 2>a man that would go man cave if given the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think like you could reference the whole place.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that on?

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<v Speaker 3>It's on from some angle, but no, the within the apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a room that would be called classically

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<v Speaker 3>a man cave at the moment. But you've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>before the show, you were if you're on YouTube, you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about my background that looks a little spartan,

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<v Speaker 3>could use a little bit of help.

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<v Speaker 1>So the place is in development, I'd say.

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<v Speaker 2>And Greg, you know, because Greg's going to Greg and

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<v Speaker 2>he was labeling it as constructive criticism, and that certainly

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<v Speaker 2>was not what I was going I was offering a

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<v Speaker 2>suggestion that maybe your remote background, because that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing the show remote for the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>that it maybe could use a touch of color on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, and I thought that would go a long way.

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<v Speaker 2>Not criticism, merely unsolicited advice slash suggestion.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not take it purely as critique. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>what greg was attempting to accomplish there verbally, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't fall for that either. So you know, point and

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<v Speaker 3>pointer are taken, and I you know, I look at

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<v Speaker 3>my own setup and it does look it looks a

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<v Speaker 3>little suspect. It could use a little bit of just

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of life, and I'm going to work

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<v Speaker 3>on that this offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not it's not normal criticism though, it's constructive criticism.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the gentleman's criticism. Like if he's a man, a

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<v Speaker 4>man manly enough to even have a man cave, he

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<v Speaker 4>can take some constructive criticism. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the men to see where maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>can't take the criticism, but I end in this case

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<v Speaker 3>I can.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh and less less we forget, I mean, silly me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only does Mark Havman kV has an entire Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl segment based around it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, and that went very well. Now time for

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to marchmen.

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<v Speaker 2>McGregor, I forgot the Devlin McGregor, the the crooked pharmaceutical

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<v Speaker 2>giant from the Fugitive sponsored your segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the greatest part of that segment beyond I have

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<v Speaker 3>no memory of it because of the state of my

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<v Speaker 3>health that day. But the Denzel Ward and Miles Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>were We're not wearing like the cans, so they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't hear. They couldn't even hear any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So they greg.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget the anxiety coursing through Mark in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to the the germs uh due to his illness ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of that interview with two Brown's greats, and speaking of anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring in the four person on today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know her, you love her, you've missed her.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoannie's the queen Queen. She is the Queen of NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how I get brought in speaking of anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, how you been colly in anything new going on

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I've just been laying real, lowing low, just chilling

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of just not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait until we write the the Around the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL memoir.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm gonna say. But it's so good to

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<v Speaker 1>see you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's so great to be back, guys, I've missed you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm preparing for a soft launch of the summer of

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<v Speaker 5>Connie and go into full swing right after the draft,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's this is our big months, huge lead up

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<v Speaker 5>to what's going to be an amazing summer.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you doing the draft night stage thing again? That's

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<v Speaker 4>a big spot draft night stage thing.

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<v Speaker 7>That's nice, that's exactly what they call it.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I will be in Detroit on stage for

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<v Speaker 5>night one, and then I wanted to do Day three

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<v Speaker 5>because they're doing puppy adoptions and so I've never done

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<v Speaker 5>Day three before, so I'm gonna skip Night two and

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<v Speaker 5>then stay for all of the shenanigans on day three.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna maybe leave there with a puppy.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how. I don't leave without a puppy.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna see what happens. But I'm gonna probably

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<v Speaker 5>get my pick of the litters since I'll be with

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<v Speaker 5>them backstage, and that's kind of my dream, is to

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<v Speaker 5>just be in a green room with a bunch of puppies.

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<v Speaker 3>So it sounds great. And then like will the inevitable

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<v Speaker 3>party at your compounds occur like how many hours after

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<v Speaker 3>you return from the draft, roughly.

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<v Speaker 5>Minutes, moments, seconds, Okay, it already starts on the flight home.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I beloved dog Captain, who's now about sixteen seventeen months old.

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<v Speaker 2>But shortly before Christmas twenty three or twenty two, Emily

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<v Speaker 2>and I went to this I should give them a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out because they do really great work here in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of serving as foster a foster home for pets

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<v Speaker 2>here in the South Bay and in the Los Angeles area.

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<v Speaker 2>But we went over to this couple's home and there

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<v Speaker 2>they were in the laundry room. It was Captain as

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<v Speaker 2>a a three week old puppy, and then three other

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<v Speaker 2>siblings of his. So it was it was a female

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<v Speaker 2>puppy and then three males. And here's the one advice

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give Connie. Okay, we picked Captain. Initially, we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get the girl dog, but she was totally insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily wanted to get to the girl but she was nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you could tell she was the pied piper

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a maniac. And we're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the dog, but we can't pick it. The

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<v Speaker 2>other two dogs were various levels of overactive, and Captain

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<v Speaker 2>as a puppy was chilling way in the back and

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<v Speaker 2>hiding and acting.

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<v Speaker 1>Really low key.

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<v Speaker 2>And We're like, that's that's the puppy we want. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something, Connie. We got that little bastard

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<v Speaker 2>home and immediately he morphed into the other two brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Total maniac that we We wouldn't have him any differently,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are smart enough even as puppies to to

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<v Speaker 2>con you and sell you.

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<v Speaker 1>So just be aware. Can I ask you a question?

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<v Speaker 7>He was He just wasn't tired at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>I am telling you, dude, the that dog was straight

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<v Speaker 2>up acting to separate himself from the pack. And he

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<v Speaker 2>is a very intelligent canine, so I really give him

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<v Speaker 2>that benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, can I ask you a question like is it possible?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm this is a theory, and we don't always

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<v Speaker 3>agree with each other's theories, and it's not it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also not alone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a critique, but I is it possible that

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<v Speaker 3>Captain is maybe a little less or maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>more emotionally dense and wasn't aware like the other three

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<v Speaker 3>dogs that they were the city billions were about to

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<v Speaker 3>be separated, where the other three are reacting. Then Captain

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<v Speaker 3>gets home and realizes he no longer has his siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what, Mark, I love you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't need a cat guy telling me anything

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<v Speaker 2>about the nature of the dog advance.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking. I didn't tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm asking the question, and it was, you know, constructive

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<v Speaker 3>criticism as Greg would would say, or just a question.

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to find. I was trying to find

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<v Speaker 5>the rescue that because you said it to me before

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<v Speaker 5>and was telling me like, that's that after Blitzen, So

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually looking at that rescue a bunch.

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<v Speaker 7>They have the cutest dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can't find it now, but I will tell

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<v Speaker 5>you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to text my wife and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get it. All right, Let's get on track. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a good app today. We're going to talk about front offices, gms,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, coaches with pop owners, obviously, the decision makers

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<v Speaker 2>of the organizations that dot the NFL, who's under the

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<v Speaker 2>most pressure heading into a draft weekend. And but before

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<v Speaker 2>that we're gonna hit some news. Let's get caught up now,

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<v Speaker 2>third down and thirteen Bli's coming press gott able to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the end zone, and now.

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<v Speaker 7>Hears it out for Lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone, He's gone. When he gets there, it's a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Calibourns time, CD Lamb from ninety two yards out. Those

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<v Speaker 2>Although I do and we're gonna get to the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>conquering the days of the week again in a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>But I really do enjoy those late regular season Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>night games where like Daddy can have a couple of Tito's,

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<v Speaker 2>My sons are with me. We don't get to watch

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<v Speaker 2>football enough do to the nature of our jobs. And

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<v Speaker 2>when like a really exciting play happens like that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of electrifies the house. That was that was

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<v Speaker 2>when and everyone knows that listens pot, I love me

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<v Speaker 2>some CD lamp in what was a brilliant season. That

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<v Speaker 2>game he was an absolute monster, and now the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>are dealing with the repercussions of it being a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she gotta pay him like a god.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still a little stuck on you know, you calling

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<v Speaker 4>yourself our daddy, But I do want to move on

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<v Speaker 4>because that that highlight I think was the first time

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<v Speaker 4>this offseason that I saw highlight from the season, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>for a few weeks afterwards, I got to admit, like

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<v Speaker 4>seeing highlights from the season, it almost gives me the chills, like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh remember that. Back then, it was just like you

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<v Speaker 4>were in a totally different mindset. But now teams have

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<v Speaker 4>showed up, they've started working out.

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<v Speaker 7>Football is back. I was excited to see, so I'll

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<v Speaker 7>highlight there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark's going to reach through your monitor and put an

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<v Speaker 2>end to your jugglers.

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<v Speaker 7>We're working out.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Kirk Cousins doing interviews in the Falcons facility.

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<v Speaker 7>They're they're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Football is back, all right, And we just lost Colleen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we'll get her back. He has technical difficulties sometime

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<v Speaker 2>design on these remote shows, but we'll hopefully we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>Colleen back. And if we don't, it was a great

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<v Speaker 2>seeing her and she'll be back soon enough. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into the cd Lamb story here, which is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if i'd call it thorny, but it's on the

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<v Speaker 2>radar and it's worth talking about. The Dallas Morning News

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<v Speaker 2>reported that there is quote NFL precedent for CDE Lamb

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<v Speaker 2>not taking the field until he signs a contract extension.

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<v Speaker 2>He's entering the fifth and final year of his rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is one of the best wide receivers in

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<v Speaker 2>football we just talked about. He's coming off an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>season where he posted career highs and receptions one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty five receiving yards seventeen forty nine touchdowns twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's a first time All Pro. He deserves a

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<v Speaker 2>contract that matches that, and yet the Cowboys are just

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<v Speaker 2>in slippery conditions here Mark with their salary cap, with

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with Michael Park, Parsons, with Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways it's a good problem to have, but

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<v Speaker 2>also in others ways you're seeing the challenges of a

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<v Speaker 2>team with top flight stars bunch together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's you know, this stuff happens. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a precedent, I like that word attached to this.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've gotten to this point with those three players

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned, like Prescott, Parsons, and Lamb where all of

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<v Speaker 3>them need their contracts to be addressed, and it for

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<v Speaker 3>all the business and hype around the Cowboys, it just

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<v Speaker 3>feels kind of like bad business, like a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>disorganized because these wide receivers each year get incrementally so

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<v Speaker 3>much more expensive that you could have done this before.

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<v Speaker 3>You could have found a way to do this before.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the whole Dak thing, I'd say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like quarterback wide receiver becoming incredibly inflated price wise,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's Lamb's prerogative to say, look, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be paid like what I am, which is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the top receivers in the league, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to have my services without that money. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at what else they have on the

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<v Speaker 3>depth chart, they don't only choice but to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just part of the offseason playbook right now. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean skipping offseason workouts. They're voluntary anyways. If he skips

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<v Speaker 4>a mini camp or not, it's not that meaningful. If

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<v Speaker 4>he starts taking into trading camp again, that's part of

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<v Speaker 4>the playbook.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's a catch twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>With this fifth year option, you retain his rights longer

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<v Speaker 4>than if he was a second round pick. But they

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<v Speaker 4>just never want to play on that fifth year option

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<v Speaker 4>if they're the kind of player that Ceedee Lamb is.

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<v Speaker 4>He's made a total of fourteen million dollars in his

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<v Speaker 4>four years, which is, you know, great money for a

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<v Speaker 4>normal person, but for the level of production that he's had,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's minuscule. They will get the deal done.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have a ton of cap space. But I

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<v Speaker 4>do think the Dak Prescott situation is looming over this

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<v Speaker 4>that they, in my mind, are going to choose on

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<v Speaker 4>some level to pay CD Lamb first and wait and

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<v Speaker 4>see how Dak Prescott does this year. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's meaningful with the coming up because I just look

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<v Speaker 4>at a fairly deep quarterback class and I know they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a high pick, and yeah, I just look

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<v Speaker 4>at like the model that the Packers have shown, and

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<v Speaker 4>to me, it's not crazy for the Cowboys to be

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<v Speaker 4>considering taking a quarterback in this class. And part of

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<v Speaker 4>that equation I think is Ceedee Lamb's going to get

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<v Speaker 4>his money.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need to spend like a crazy amount of

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<v Speaker 4>time this offseason, even though I suspect it we'll go

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<v Speaker 4>into training camp or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is you know, their Cowboys are a victim

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<v Speaker 2>of their own success on some level. But also it's

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<v Speaker 2>another reminder and it's like you know, you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>Digs trade and the Bills in some ways, and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at their roster and what they're doing now. They're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to reload on the fly with the star quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>that the Cowboys had their window like they had it

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<v Speaker 2>like that when you hit on Parsons, Lamb and Dak

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<v Speaker 2>you had that three or four years where that's when

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<v Speaker 2>you go and you win Super Bowls. And they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>able to get over the hump in the NFC. And

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that they can't contend for the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl again even this year, but now it's getting increasingly

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<v Speaker 2>more difficult. And Parsons is a top five, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>top three player, maybe the number one player at his position.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb you can make the same case for his position.

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<v Speaker 2>These are two of the highest paid positions in the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dak maybe not top five, but probably a

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<v Speaker 2>top ten quarterback and he's a QB, so that's the

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<v Speaker 2>highest paid position in the sport. So it's almost a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect store mark k which I'm less being feeling critical

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cowboys, but that they didn't get the job

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<v Speaker 2>done winning and now they have to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to pay these three dudes at like the most expensive

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<v Speaker 2>price tags in the sport, and it's kind of impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think, like, I mean, there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>to really shape shift the message to not say that

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas has had an awkward, unpredictably strange offseason that I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the starts goes against the actual messaging of what

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<v Speaker 3>they claim to be this offseason. And I'm with Greg though,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we can let this one go until he

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<v Speaker 3>gets paid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chris Jones hold out last last year was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the rare ones where like a star isn't there

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<v Speaker 3>when the season starts. I typically just tend to think

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<v Speaker 3>these things get ironed out, but they're they're in a

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<v Speaker 3>thorny spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the story here is not the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>will see Lamb play for the Cowboys?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he show up?

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<v Speaker 2>And more just like the bigger yeah picture situation around

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, by the way to TMZ, I'll be in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 4>which was like a clever non answer to like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll be in Dallas, you live there. But he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>saying he was showing up to practice necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, parse that Harvey Levin all right? In other news.

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<v Speaker 2>We told you NFL one. They've defeated days of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no longer any issue. You could play an NFL

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<v Speaker 2>game whenever you want, and issues with competition be damned.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a way and a streaming platform that

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<v Speaker 2>will air it. And let's talk about Week one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a new wrinkle. There's a lot of new

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<v Speaker 2>wrinkles with this schedule now because everything's been blown wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagles will play the NFL's first.

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<v Speaker 2>Game in Brazil to kick off twenty twenty four, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they will do it on a Friday night. So now

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<v Speaker 2>we get the Thursday night opener. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>this is the Brazilian national anthem, by the way, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have Thursday night opener, We're gonna have Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have a dozen games on Sunday and then

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<v Speaker 2>games on Monday. So you do the math. That's four

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<v Speaker 2>out of seven in one week of football. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles last played an international game in twenty eighteen. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>face a two be announced opponent in Sam Paulo Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>September sixth, the day after the NFL season kicks off

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, night, So it will be the NFL's first

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<v Speaker 2>Friday game on an opening weekend in more than fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark what was happening fifty years ago when they last played.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was born fifty years ago, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was probably one of the bigger news items

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<v Speaker 3>in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just saying it was in your life cycle,

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<v Speaker 2>so not Greg and I.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know if you knew who were the teams.

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<v Speaker 7>They have TV back then? Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 3>There was a form of television back in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the early seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Roger Goodell had this to say, By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we are just incredibly enthusiastic about our.

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<v Speaker 1>Growth on a global basis. Same seas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was curious because I saw our frequent guest

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Marshawn, asked the question, is the NFL even popular

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<v Speaker 4>in Brazil? And I know it is popular to some degree,

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<v Speaker 4>but I wasn't sure as much. But the NFL says

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<v Speaker 4>that Brazil has the third most amount of fans in

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<v Speaker 4>the entire world, number one US, number two Mexico. They

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<v Speaker 4>credit thirty million fans in Brazil. Now, it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>huge part of our audience because of the language barrier,

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<v Speaker 4>but bring it on, Brazilians.

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<v Speaker 7>We're sending you a good game.

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<v Speaker 4>It shows how much we respect Brazil to give them

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<v Speaker 4>Packers Eagles.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, that might be the best primetime game of

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<v Speaker 7>Week one.

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<v Speaker 3>I also read that actually in Brazil that the Packers,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they probably looked into this, have one of

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest, one of the biggest, like fan fit the teams.

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<v Speaker 3>The Packers are like the second or third most popular

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<v Speaker 3>team there. But you know, Dan, you said that they

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<v Speaker 3>can play games any day. There is this like age

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<v Speaker 3>old rule out there called the Sports Broadcasting Act of

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty one, which happened before I was born. But

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<v Speaker 3>you are not allowed to play a game on Friday

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<v Speaker 3>as of the second Friday in September. So what they've

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<v Speaker 3>done is they've found these calendar openings where because Labor

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<v Speaker 3>Day is happening on September first, second, or third, you

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<v Speaker 3>can squeeze it in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've noted.

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<v Speaker 3>That the other years that are eligible will be twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five, twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty, and twenty thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's they're not gonna they can't do Friday night

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<v Speaker 3>every night. But when they find their way. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>squeeze it in there and disrupt your weekend in we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see, Mark, that's true under reporting though by me

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<v Speaker 4>like a challenge. Mark didn't know all that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was valuable to anyone making plans for twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see the league. You're just challenging him on

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<v Speaker 3>sports back too, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so, and thank you guys for giving me that information,

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<v Speaker 2>an updated information about their opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>That is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on, Josh Allen, No, the other Josh Allen, the

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<v Speaker 2>one that plays for the Jaguars, gets paid. He agrees

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<v Speaker 2>to a new five year, one hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar deal makes him one of the makes them one

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<v Speaker 2>of the highest paid players at his position in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a contract that includes eighty eight million guaranteed,

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<v Speaker 2>and it replaces the franchise tag that he was playing

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<v Speaker 2>under that was set to pay him a little more

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<v Speaker 2>than twenty four million.

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<v Speaker 1>GREGGI.

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<v Speaker 2>Allen coming off his second Pro Bowl trip in five years.

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<v Speaker 2>He is coming off a perfectly timed breakout year where

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<v Speaker 2>he had seventeen and a half sacks, sixty six tackles,

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<v Speaker 2>two forced fumbles, an interception, big time player.

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<v Speaker 1>They nailed the draft pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when he came into the league, was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's another Josh Allen, Is this the right way?

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<v Speaker 1>And it turned out to be yes, the right play right.

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<v Speaker 4>He's sort of a classic example of a first round

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<v Speaker 4>pick that was a big win, a B plus a minus,

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<v Speaker 4>that wasn't a superstar but better than the average like

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<v Speaker 4>and got better and better and developed, I think in

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<v Speaker 4>times his best season for his contract year. And it

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<v Speaker 4>just reminds me how important self scouting and getting ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of all these contracts are because they could have paid

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<v Speaker 4>they could have paid him so much less a year ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and they could have paid him this contract months ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they could have kept Calvin Ridley, but they

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't because then the franchise tag wasn't available and he

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<v Speaker 4>ended up being able to squeeze him. It's a good

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<v Speaker 4>thing though, for players like franchise tag players we saw

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<v Speaker 4>with Kyle Duggart earlier this week are getting their long

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<v Speaker 4>term money, which is sort of how it's intended to

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<v Speaker 4>be used. But these quieter contracts like the Eagles, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>with Dickerson and my Lot, who are doing it years

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<v Speaker 4>ahead like those are the teams that are smart, they're

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<v Speaker 4>even money in the long run, because this is pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's seventy six fully guaranteed eighty eight gart

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<v Speaker 4>like he's getting that money.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's not backloaded at all.

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<v Speaker 4>He actually has a chance to play a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>this contract that I think by the looks of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it links to exactly what we were just saying

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<v Speaker 3>about Micah Parsons. I mean, it's exactly what Dallas has

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<v Speaker 3>to look at and say, oh, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>top that. And like, you're right, seven of nine tag

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<v Speaker 3>players have gotten contracts and quicker than they would have

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<v Speaker 3>in other times. So like, I like that's that part

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And the Jaguars needed to do this. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they Calvin Ridley is not to me like a

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<v Speaker 3>star wide receiver, but they are letting players go. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're watching the AFC South, the Texans specifically turn into

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<v Speaker 3>a fire storm and you got a wait and see

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<v Speaker 3>on what Anthony Richardson's makes the cults. So it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars, who you know, six hundred days ago were

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<v Speaker 3>a really sexy new operation in the AFC, are now

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe the second or third at least the second

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<v Speaker 3>best team in the South and maybe the third.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, hold that thought, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was too late. We'll talk about the Jaguars a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later. Potentially we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a Balkie off. I mean our multiple co hosts here.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be ridiculous, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally in the news, God, if there's one person out

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<v Speaker 2>there that got that reference, please hit me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I did social media. I enjoyed it, but go ahead, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to spell it out for the listeners out.

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<v Speaker 7>There that you know. I give me the locky barlacamists.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fans, Okay, the Bartaka heads out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally in the news, Bill Belichick is about to enter

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<v Speaker 2>an NFL season not as a head coach or a

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<v Speaker 2>coach of any kind, and that will be the first

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<v Speaker 2>time since nineteen seventy four, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Predates Mark Sessler.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is I was, you know, on the earth

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<v Speaker 3>to witness the start of that career for Bill dom Man.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like a whole fun game, like can we

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<v Speaker 2>find an event in history where Mark wasn't alive anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty years okay? And Belichick, though, is keeping busy. He

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<v Speaker 2>recently spoke at Nebraska's annual coaching clinic, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach is an old man, an old friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, a guy that once stole Mark's heart

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<v Speaker 2>at the NFL scouting combine at a tavern, a local steakhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Matt Ruhle.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not do well as a head coach in

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, but obviously he's landed on his feet well.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 2>And he was blown away by Bill Belichick's presence, his knowledge,

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 2>his quah at this clinic. Let's listen to Rule, who

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<v Speaker 2>also was very pointed in his commentary about Bill being

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<v Speaker 2>out of work and how is that possible?

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 6>He is so smart, It's seemed so much that he

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 6>can make the complex so simple that it humbles you

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 6>and embarrassed. I was embarrassed just how smart he is,

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:04.959
<v Speaker 6>how simple it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He went, what he how we went?

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 7>He went?

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<v Speaker 6>He went four and a half hours, was just with

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 6>the coaches. Forget the clinic, Like he came in and

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 6>met with our coaching staff, and three and a half

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 6>hours in, I was like, coach, would you like a

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 6>water coffee? Like to use the restroom because I desperately

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 6>had to use the restroom, you know, and he's like,

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 6>I'm fine, Matt. I was like, yes, sir, and just

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 6>sitting there and just talking right, and just his recall

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 6>from things fifteen years ago. And you know, the only

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 6>reason why we don't get through more information is because

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 6>he's having to slow down to make sure you understand

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 6>what he's saying. I mean, So, you have this man

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 6>who's a savant, right, Who's been a defensive coordinator, He's

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 6>been a special teams coordinator, he's coached, you know, he

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 6>could be an offensive coordinator, has been a head coach twice,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 6>he's been a GM person. I mean, he's and he's

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 6>talking about football in a way that just like I mean,

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 6>illuminates things and make things so simple that you're like,

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 6>oh my goodness.

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>And I wish things worked out better from that rule,

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>because he seems like a good guy and a personal

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 2>guy in the NFL. So and some people and I

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>saw some you know criticism out there that who cares

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>what that guy says?

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>He's terrible at his job.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he was bad as a Panthers head coach, but

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly someone who respects the profession that's done it

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and what he's telling you right there,

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 2>does that sound like an over the hill football man,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>someone that doesn't have more to give to this league.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of the great follies and honestly

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the most ridiculous thing in all our time doing this podcast,

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 2>which is we're going into our twelfth season that Bill

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Belichick wanted a job and did not get one this year.

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And that will probably be rectified next year, but let

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>it be remembered when the next round of firing and

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 2>firings and dismissals goes down, that a lot of those

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 2>teams had a chance to get Bill Belichick and instead

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>chose to outthink themselves.

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I could I could see one you know, silver lining

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 3>here for Belichick, because it's pretty trenchantly noted that when

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 3>coaches take a year off, they their health improves, they

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 3>are able to watch football more globally. I mean, it's

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna teach Bill Belichick new things. I get that,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 3>but just the idea of kind of getting out of

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the grind, re energizing, taking a look look at football

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 3>from a different place, and I think for Belichick to

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 3>go around to these you know, these coaching clinics and

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 3>to talk to other coaching staffs. It's got to be

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 3>fuel for him. And I think it takes the hot

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 3>butt rankings and everyone who's on that list. It dials

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>the notch up. Because whatever exhaustion or agism was happening

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 3>around Bill Belichick a couple of months ago, at the

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 3>end of the New England thing and the documentary that

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 3>came out all that, It's like other owners are now

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, wait a minute, everyone passed on Bill Belichick.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 3>But if I'm like the Giants owner, I'm like, we

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 3>could bring Belichick Bill Belichick back to New York to

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 3>be the Giants coach in a bit of poetry, if

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 3>this thing continues to go south. So I think everyone's

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 3>now about to be watching it, like, wait a minute,

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Belichick is already the lead candidate to take a job

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 3>a year from now.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's all stuff I agree with from both of you.

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>And yet I don't think it was some travesty. He

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't get hired, He needed a year off. What he

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 4>was doing was stale, he was doing a poor job.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be extremely valuable for him

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 4>to take a step back and do some self accounting

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 4>of how he went twenty nine and thirty eight with

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 4>no playoff wins for four years, three out of four

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 4>losing records, like cause there's no way he is happy

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 4>with that. And he is as critical as it gets.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 4>And I randomly like reread a critical of himself as

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 4>he gets as he used to be.

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 7>I reread this book, Patriot.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Raign, which is one of the great season in the

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 4>life embedded reporter books that kind of got slept on.

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 4>It's Michael Holly who spent two seasons all sorts of

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 4>inside stuff with the Patriots two thousand and two, two

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>thousand and three.

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of amazing.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like him going to Belichick's cousin's house with Belichick

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 4>when she has cancer, all this stuff, and that like

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>the number one thing that he stressed that he was

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 4>important to him was to not have yes men around him,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 4>to have people around him that he respected that could

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 4>push back on what he said, because it can't just

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 4>be one person running the show, like it can't just

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 4>be one person. And Scott Pioli, especially in that book,

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 4>was really important as someone who he trusted to do

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot. And he loved how me and Genie pushed back,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 4>and he said, I never want to be the type

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 4>of leader that gets masturbatory. Heed that word in terms

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 4>of my opinions, and no one's gonna didn't have to

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>use that word, but he didn't.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 7>But he was.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 4>And and what did he turn into. He turned into

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>a guy who had who started making all the decisions,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 4>had had no one around him, didn't groom anyone that

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>would push back, and he will, I'm sure reflect and

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>say I did a poor job for four years twenty

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 4>nine and thirty eight with three losing seasons is a

0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 4>bad job no matter what.

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 7>And I think he'll come back a better coach.

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 4>But it to me, it's not some like like he

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 4>was a little He needed to reset and change the

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 4>way he was doing things.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I know, but everybody, everyone seems to be so sure

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of their opinion that he needed to reset and he

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>needed this.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Year away, But he didn't. He didn't think it.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 2>And just because he listen, he could have gotten a

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>job in January and still done some self reflection and

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>self scouting and went into this enlivened and re energized

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and learning from what happened at the end of the

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>New England Run and the idea, like I think agism

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>played a part in the fact that he's in his

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>early seventies and now you're kind of in some way

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like the point I'm trying to make will be made

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in January when multiple teams want the guy, and it

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>won't be because like, oh, now he's had the year

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and head coach jail where he was able to, you know,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 2>come clean and go to confession and finally see the

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>air of his ways. Like he's going to be the

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>same guy and he'll learn and he's learned some things

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>away from the game. But I think he would have

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>been learning and scouting himself. Either way. That's such a

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>bad job. Well he I mean that's also unders I

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>understand what you're saying, and you could point to the

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>end of the run. He also ended up with a

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>quarterback that couldn't really play and that and that really

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>shades things. I think if if he ended up with

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>a better quarterback prospect than mac Jones, we probably aren't

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>having this conversation. And that's not to put everything on

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>mac Jones, because he played a major role in Mac Jones.

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He was the face of the organization behind the scenes

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 2>as well. I just I still can't believe, and I

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want to dwell on it anymore. And I think

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we're all on the same page. I'm just a little

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>more strident in my feeling that the teams, Uh, these

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 2>teams think they're so smart and it's a copycat league,

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think once other teams kind of put it

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>out there that, oh, we don't want that guy.

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>He's he needs a.

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Good team, though I'm not assuming he's going to do well.

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 4>The odds would say like he could be mediocre.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>He loves that Greg.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 4>The Jets, not like the Jets are going to high him,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 4>but a team that actually has it in place. His

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 4>mind is obviously so sharp. He's such a great defense

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>of mine, like he can do all that running an

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 4>organized I think he showed that his best days are

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 4>are behind him.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 7>When it comes to that.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>He'll he'll need to make some adjustments, obviously, But I

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's not somebody to speak on this. He's not

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>going to do a Last Dance Jordan thing and speak

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>his mind on this stuff. But he loves like guys

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>like national guys like a Greg Rosenthal, who no one

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 2>was ever more in his corner saying he can't do

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it anymore. He's got to be in a perfect setup.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>He needs to kind of. He can't run the show

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>like he used to. I think he's going to be hungry.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think it would have been hungry this year too,

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Is my point this idea that he needed

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to take the year off, Well, he's getting the year

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>off and let's see what happens.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I think a little all of it.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I think a little bit of all of that can

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 3>be true, Like even if he didn't want the year off,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 3>it can help him. Like he can be doubted, but

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 3>we don't. You have to look at the full body

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 3>of work. He's one of the greatest coaches, if not

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 3>the greatest coach of all time. And I find your versatility,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Dan to be impressive that you can come out and

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 3>attack appropriately the aegis and the people that you know

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 3>killed for his age on a show where you're asking

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 3>if I was here for to witness the Revolutionary War?

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So I that moatility is?

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I think versatility, I'll tell I think I think you're

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>saying it's a little hypocritical.

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Versatile seems like the word that's a nice guy move.

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a break and we will talk about,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>speaking of pressure and decision makers, who's under the most

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>as we enter a draft season.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what this sport is not for the

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>meek of heart and leadership in the front office, that

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Holy Trinity owner, GM, head coach. All teams are different

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and who has the juice, but ultimately there's always someone

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>who's responsible, who will be either celebrated or dragged through

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the mud.

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>For the draft and.

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Free agency is a test for these decision makers. But

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the real pressure point, the future of

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the organizations are really built on the back of these

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 2>three days every April.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we're going to talk about right now.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's why you're hearing that ominous synth Mark Sessler,

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>because I can only imagine. I mean, look at we

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>just talked about Belichick. One day, you're the goat, the

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>next day you can't even get a job. And that's

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the pressure these guys are under. It's what have you

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>done for me lately? And if you're coming off a

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 2>so so draft, for instance, and there are a lot

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>of gms and front office leaders that are coming off

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>so so to bad drafts, man, you better hit on

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.479
<v Speaker 2>this one. Or you'll be joining Bill Belichick at the

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>next corn Huskers summit.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>If you're lucky.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. It's a stark, stark environment. That's

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 3>why it seems to be happening a little bit less.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 3>But you got these like coach doesn't like to brag

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 3>about being in the office ninety hours a week. In

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>gms right now are doing the same thing. They don't

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 3>see their families for four months. And I think this

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>year especially to a lot of new gms, but the

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 3>pressure is turned up on some of them, but especially

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 3>some of these guys that have been around for a while,

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 3>and there have been some disappointing tracks in the background.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>So this segment comes at the right time. Den.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get you know on this podcast especially,

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>but I did hear one of the many of what

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of new head coaches. To make

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>your point, Mark, I heard from a birdie that an

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.959
<v Speaker 2>example is one of the coaches toward the facility after

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>being hired, and the first thing he asked was like,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>where are the beds where the pullout couches for my assistance?

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And you could infer quite easily what will be expected

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>of that staff and the fact that the assistant coaching

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>offenses didn't have a place to sleep meant that needed

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Handled. Put it that way.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 2>So, yes, there's a lot of pressure all the way

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 2>down the chain. But let's get into some teams and

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>front office leaders who are under the most pressure entering

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>this draft. And Greg, why don't you get us go

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and throw throw a team out there. We'll go around

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>the horn. And by the way, for those that are wondering,

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Colleen Wolfe still missing in action. We're going to continue

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to track this and hopefully she returns, but hope is

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>growing dim.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, great, I'll save Bartokamas for you because I'm

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 4>that kind of teammate. And I want to mention a

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 4>name I feel like has not been mentioned since the

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 4>day he was hired. And he's going to be drafting

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 4>for the first time actually, and he's not in a

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 4>great spot, and yet I still feel like he's under

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot of pressure. His name is Dan Morgan. He's

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 4>the Panthers GM not getting a lot of pop pop

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 4>this offseason. The Panthers get a lot of attention, partly

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 4>because they don't have a first round pick, but you

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 4>know what they do as have is the first pick

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 4>in the second round and then another pick six picks

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 4>later in a draft that it's the perfect spot to

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 4>have those two picks where people really feel like the

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 4>strength of this draft is in the top fifty picks,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 4>that the difference between let's say fifteen and fifty is

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 4>not that great. And to me, the Panthers have so

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 4>many needs that he can put a little bit of

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 4>a fire sale up for that thirty three spot overnight

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 4>and see what he can get for and pick up

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 4>more and more.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 7>They're thin everywhere.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 4>I love the Deontay Johnson move, but Adam Thielen, you

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 4>can't expect what you got out of him to happen again.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Like he is a three in a perfect situation. You

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 4>need more juice. You don't have a receiver, you don't

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 4>have a tight end. Your left tackle from a couple

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 4>of years ago has essentially been a bust. And they're

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna say that they love them, but they're gonna need

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 4>another option there. And then I look at their defense

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 4>and they've added some good, just veteran players that kind

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 4>of fill the the snaps. Josie Jewel, DJ wantam Ayshawn

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Robbinson like clown he's there like a bunch of solid

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 4>guys who can play, and they needed that. But when

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 4>you look on our lads, which have my favorite depth charts,

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 4>you could see, you know, when they got drafted where

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 4>they came from. And I noticed like only three players

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 4>on the Panthers starting defense were drafted by the Panthers,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 4>and one of them, Shaq Thompson, who was practically playing

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 4>with Dan Morgan. Back with Dan Morgan was quite an

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 4>exciting middle linebacker back in the day. And so they

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 4>need homegrown talent and they need to win fast because

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 4>we've learned with that owner. Like you might think you

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 4>have a timeline. Dan Morgan's been in the building, he

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 4>was part of the last regime. He's not gonna have

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 4>that long of a timeline. And they just need to

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 4>start finding some players. And I just wanted to say

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 4>hello to the Carolina Panthers fans that listened to.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>This show, I'm with you, because they've they've been completely excited.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 3>That is a perilous spot because I think if you're

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 3>anyone's gonna want to try their test at being a

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 3>GM and it was kind of an un I think

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Dan Morgan could be as good as anyone else somewhere,

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 3>but it was a higher from within, which tells me

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 3>sometimes about what the owner wants to be able to

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 3>have control over. I don't know if that's the case here,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>but the odds on situation tells us the tepper wants

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 3>to have the strongest voice. You don't know if the

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 3>quarterback can play. You inherited a job where you have

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 3>given away a ton of draft picks for the future

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>and made a ton of terrible team building decisions over

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 3>the last three or four years.

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>That's why Matt Ruhl doesn't have a job.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 3>So it's like I think Dan Morgan like selling that

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 3>pick maybe and acquiring all the assets you can. I

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 3>agree with Greg, I think that makes sense.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because this is obviously the critical year for Bryce Young.

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>It comes quick in the NFL, the number one overall

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>pick coming off a nightmare rookie year. If he's bad again,

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>very very real chance that they just clean house.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Two fifth as they mentioned too high seconds and then

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 4>the first pick of the third like they keep like

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 4>that third is almost as good as a late. Yes,

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 4>so he does have some even though they traded all

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 4>this picslay, they have some maneuverability.

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 7>They got to make it happen.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I though one more before we throw it to

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Mark with his pressure point just a little.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Greg. I liked the way you did that.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 2>That was an optimistic type way to say hello to

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers fans. That one thing that you got to

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 2>remember to do, no matter what, no matter what obstacles

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you face, no matter the hardships in your past, there's

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>only one thing you gotta do.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Piled in.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 7>All right, it's been a while.

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I you know, when you look at like the last

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Panthers GM, Scott Fitter like not surprising why he's not

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 3>there anymore. I think there's one GM sitting out there

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 3>that it's like it is a surprise to me that

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 3>he's still in the building. And it's George Peyton, who

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I think we have a nickname for. Was it Keaven Saunders?

0:39:55.040 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's it. Okay, So Kevin Saunders has enough

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>on his resume where he shouldn't be there. I think

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 3>he's a He's got a head coach who essentially like

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 3>probably runs that front office, if not directly, just sort

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 3>of spiritually, and a head coach and Sean Payton who's

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 3>verbally whether I know, Greg always thinks whatever Sean Payton

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>is saying that he's lying, but he says, you know,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>there are teams up there above us in the draft

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 3>where they're at number twelve that we are. You know,

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 3>trading up for a quarterback makes them very valuable front

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 3>offices and assets. And I think, like you're looking at

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 3>a team that has Jarrett Stidham and Ben Denucci in

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 3>a post Russell Wilson apocalypse, and there is a lot

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 3>of pressure to get up there and get someone if

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 3>they don't like who's going to fall to them as

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 3>the fifth or sixth guy. They do have more draft

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 3>assets than you would think. But I think either way,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 3>if for some reason it doesn't go the way that

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Sean Payton wants, that Sean Payton has the easiest.

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Fall guy around.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 3>And there are you know, once every couple of years

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 3>there's a team that cleans house in the front off

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 3>right after the draft, and I could see that being

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 3>a real problem for George Peyton slash Kevin Saunders if

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't come out real well for them.

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean they absolutely need it.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 7>I mean that's happening. The decisions already made.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 4>If it doesn't matter, they're not gonna let him do

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 4>anything on draft weekend if they're gonna fire.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, so I'm saying I don't know if the decision's

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 3>already made or if they maybe they work better together

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 3>than we realized.

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I just think that the power structure puts them in

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a tough spot. And it's almost like you have someone

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you can blame other than Sean Payton. If you're Sean Payton,

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 3>if it doesn't go well a couple weeks from now, I.

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Mean you could almost like look at it a different

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>way than Mark like that, Especially these teams coming off

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>disappointing years, there's not a lot of pressure. I mean

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>there's pressure to try to be better. But if things

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>go wrong, Sean Payton's pulling the strings anyway, and he

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 2>could just blame the GM and start over there. And

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 2>if things go right, well, Kevin Saunders keeps his job

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>most likely, and mickveigh and and Peyton gets all the credit.

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't like the power structure for George Peyton to

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 3>begin with. But I would say, secondly, who like Kevin Saunders?

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 3>But if you, if you like, go into another rough

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.240
<v Speaker 3>year with Sean Payton. I think things get real ugly,

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I just I just do. I just

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 3>think they I think they've got to come out of

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 3>this draft with a lot more hope than they were.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Their roster to me on offense is just like come on, guys,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>like and the drafts have not been great. They out

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 3>they've not had great drafts under Kevin Saunders. So it's

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 3>like walball track record here.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 2>As a Walmart that that owns the Broncos. Yeah, I don't.

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 2>We don't know yet how patient they are. We when

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>we talked about the Russell Wilson trade, I I made

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>my opinion that I shared my opinion that I thought,

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>if they're being run the right way, that Peyton should

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>be mostly absolved of year one because he had to

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>inherit the Russell mess and everything that came with it,

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 2>for sure. And now it's pretty widely known across the

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 2>league that the Broncos are in a very difficult spot

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and terms of how they can spend over the next

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 2>couple of years because of that disastrous Russell Wilson transaction.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 2>And I guess I just disagree just a little bit

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.879
<v Speaker 2>about like what the expectations are in Denver and when

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the expectations are lowered because of their unique situation that

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's it's not as high a pressure point as

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 2>other teams.

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Brongos fans didn't like it going into last season, But

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna make the same point now, is like, where

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>is the strength of this team? Give me a position

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 4>group that has has much. It's a pretty bad roster.

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 4>I might put it in the bottom six in the NFL.

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Like I think Peyton did a fine job, Sean Payton.

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why we talk about Kevin Sun. They find job

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 4>coaching up what they had. But there's not a lot.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 4>There's not a lot to like wrap your arms around

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 4>here and feel good about for the Broncos. So I'm

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 4>with you. They need some talent and fuse it and

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 4>if it and it's tricky like b Nicks as the

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 4>second rounder feels okay, Bonnicks if you take them in

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 4>the top fifteen feels a little rich.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they definitely need to get beat all right. We

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>started with two bad teams, two sad teams. A bad

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>team in a sad Panthers are kind of sad and bad.

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Panthers Broncos two teams that are looking up at hill.

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to look at.

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a team that's in a

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>really the opposite place, but I kind of attached the

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 2>headlines to these. So the headline here is take a window,

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 2>for granted, and soon enough it will be a wall.

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 2>M I like that pretty good. Made that one up.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Talk about the Packers, and yeah, Brian Gouda Kuntz has

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>been there for a while now. He survived the Aaron

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers power struggle, handled it beautifully looking back on it,

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>nailed the Jordan Love pick. You have Matt Lafleur there,

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>his sixth season with the team. There's been a lot

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>of success in those six seasons, but also they have

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>not gotten to the big one with Lafleur. And then

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 2>that's this is an organization that expects to get back

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.879
<v Speaker 2>to the super Bowl. And last year's the whole last

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 2>season they went nine to eight, They closed very strong. Obviously,

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>they went into the playoffs, they were the team nobody

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>wanted to play. They took the gave the Lions all

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 2>that they could handle. And now it is understood that

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>this is the year that they make that leap. And

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>it better be because I think that these windows, especially

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 2>at the Jordan Love situation, Greggie, and maybe you can

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.399
<v Speaker 2>provide just a little clarity because of his situation, where

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is he that contract was.

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 4>He's entering the second year of a two year contract.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>They're probably gonna give him a new contract this offseason.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 4>If I had to guess in the summer.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then things get a little more difficult for

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the Packers. And so what you have with their situation.

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 2>They have the twenty fifth overall pick and they have

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>an early second round pick that is the Aaron Rodgers trade.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 2>It was going to be a first rounder, but Rogers

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't reach the percentage of snaps because of his injury,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of course, so they get a second rounder, so that

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>is the ninth pick the second round. They also have

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the twenty sixth pick of the second round, and they

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 2>have two third round picks. So that's pretty nice they

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 2>have for a team coming off a successful season with

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>a really exciting young corps.

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>They now have five picks out.

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Of the first ninety one, including three in the top sixty.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think the pressure here is it's not like

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Gudakun is going to lose his job, but this is

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>look at the Bills as a recent example, or what

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the Lions are now entering as they come into what

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>feels like a big time important year for their organization.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I could have talked about the Lions in this exercise.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>This is kind of the year.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And if Guta Kunz nails this draft and makes smart

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 2>moves and picks up, hits the first round pick, and

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>then gets value in those ever valuable second and third rounds,

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that could really fill out whatever ills this roster at

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 2>this point, whether they decide they want to go after

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>an offensive tackle, even though they had a pretty good

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 2>season from Rashid Walker who filled in for Bacdiari, but

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>that's a former seventh round pick. You want to upgrade

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 2>at that position. If you want to add some help

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>to the defense. You finally made the decision and change

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinators. But do you want to add more talent there?

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I suspect that they will, and they'll be aggressive addressing

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 2>the defense because the offense is in a very good

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>place overall. But this is such a pivotal moment in

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 2>recent Packers' history because if you hit this draft, look out,

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you could be hoisted in Lombardi in February. If you

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 2>miss on it, you could be the next Bills a

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 2>team that could have, would have, should have, that was

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>on the make and then never got there.

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I would just say, like one thing though, quick though,

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 3>because I see what you're saying that it's could swing

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 3>either way. But you know, with the way the Packers

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 3>operate in general, like I would give Goody like an

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 3>A if not in almost an a plus on rebuilding

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the offense, because in a way, even though Aaron Rodgers

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 3>is Aaron Rodgers, it was a little bit of a

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 3>progress stopper. And we're only only like four months removed

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 3>from finding out that Jordan Love can play, and now

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I think like the hope is gushing out of the organization.

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 3>They went back to back MVPs before that last season.

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 3>No I know, but I guess it's more like you, like,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 3>in a way, they found a good quarterback in Love,

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 3>but then you his rookie contract has been eaten up

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 3>by that situation.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's two different things in a way.

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 3>But like they're pretty conservative with what they do with

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 3>their front office and stuff, and I think Goody has

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 3>to be as safe a GM is anyone in a

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>division in a way.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 7>But also.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not talking about I don't see this segment

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 2>as like who's on the hot seat. Necessarily, it's about

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 2>like who is in kind of in many cases it

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>will be, and probably the other teams that bring up

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>it will be. But in good cunts the situation, it's

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>more like, here is a moment and it might not

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.879
<v Speaker 2>be on everyone's radar that this kind of could be

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the year that separates them and makes them a true

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl team if he hits it, and it's like

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a moment in time before love gets that big deal.

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you said that he would be in

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 3>trouble for some reason if things went, if this draft

0:48:58.640 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and go well, which maybe you weren't.

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>But you would live with regret more than he'd be

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in trou Okay, I.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Think that's so true that as you were talking and

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about it, like they have a chance to

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 4>really set themselves up as the consistent team in the NFC.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 4>A young quarterback and a really good young core, a

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 4>lot of which is on offense.

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 7>That's that's how you win consistently.

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 4>And when you say watch out, you turn into the Bills,

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 4>And part of me thinks like, well, you should be

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 4>so lucky.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they did win.

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.479
<v Speaker 4>Like the most amount of games over the last four years,

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 4>and I don't view the Vill's story as remotely closed.

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 4>To me, Josh Allen is in the middle of their

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 4>prime and so their windows open. So consistent winning is

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 4>what they want. You want to get a little over

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 4>the top and some good picks on defense, especially, I

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 4>think in the secondary. Mate, maybe you get a little

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 4>younger with the pass rush. But they're a team unlike

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 4>the Broncos. Where I look around, I see a lot

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 4>of strengths and I don't see a ton of huge,

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:53.439
<v Speaker 4>screaming needs.

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 7>You mentioned a couple of them.

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 4>I think they'll definitely address the secondary at some point

0:49:58.360 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 4>with those first three picks.

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 7>But he's in a good spot.

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if Damashek does that list of like the

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 4>greatest positions in sports, and you know he puts like

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Bruins center and Yankees something I don't even remember what

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.919
<v Speaker 4>it was centerfield, It's like, how about Packers GM going

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 4>from Wolf to Thompson to Guda Kunst.

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 7>You know that's pretty good.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Most of Dave's like cross sports points just circle back

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to Mario Lemieux.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's it is.

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<v Speaker 7>The center I think is like number one all time

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 7>or something.

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's take a break and then we will

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>go around again talking about different teams that the decision makers.

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>What am I calling this again? Pressure points? Was decision

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>making team builders? Pretty good? All right, we'll be right back.

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Right everybody, you never played that, Thank you very much,

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Greg Rosenthal who said that. Uh, by the way, Greg,

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 2>any have you given any thought so far about the

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Delaware tapes now that they are in the possession?

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 4>No mean, despite you know, the firestorm on of interest

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 4>on social media. Wait, no, I haven't heard from one

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 4>listener on this thing. Nobody cares. We waited too long

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:24.760
<v Speaker 4>for this bit. The desire has really diminished over the years.

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 4>After the listeners are like, what's Dan even talking about?

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 4>It's this is from eight years ago.

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>What a mistake that was? Everyone, all the soldiers of

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the ATN Army. Please hit up Greg on Twitter. We

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 2>need and let him know that you do want to

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 2>hear the Delaware tapes and and and it would be

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a win, Mark, like you said, a win for everyone,

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 2>a win for you.

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think so, I think, like you know, when

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 3>we're hearing the innocent voices of children, you know, young

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 3>minds and hearts asking that this be the wish that

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 3>were fulfilled not only just for us, but for the

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>future generations.

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's important.

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a rookie mistake by me, and I

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 4>know you're not. I will be turning off notifications until Monday,

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:15.959
<v Speaker 4>April fifteenth, all.

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, so start sending this on Monday April fifteenth now.

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And I know you're not in it for the glory,

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 2>but just think, Greg, that you two could have a

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 2>sign football from Dabo Sweeney.

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Like me that I helped.

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I potentially played a role in the I'm gonna say

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>an orphanage that was erected in the Clemson region. I'm

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>not sure, but I did play role because I got

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>that ball. You too could have some type of artifacts

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 2>celebrating your great Filmthrampic mind.

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 4>I think it was thanking you for speaking to the

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 4>Young Capitalists of America conference or something.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 7>So let's come down with the Orphanage.

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Young Capitalists of America. That is so that's so false.

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, again, just before we get back to it,

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>who wins Mark and I, who wins the audience, and

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 2>who wins the Santa Monica Food Bank as an example,

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we will donate on behalf of Greg if he lets

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>us all here the Delaware his Prague acid rock group

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.720
<v Speaker 2>from the mid nineties in high school out of western Massachusetts.

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Some of their great work includes I have it under Delaware,

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 2>bio under stickies on my laptop, how.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to cook? Shiny Men went to frog Town.

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>These are all output from Delaware. All right, let's get

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>back to it.

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>We must listen to Delaware.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Shy Man went to Frogtown. You're up, Greg, I'm gonna

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>go with Brandon Bean point you.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Know, I started with Carolina. Let's go to a former

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Panthers staffer here, Brandon Bean who arrived in Buffalo after

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 4>one season of Sean mcdermotty. He joined his power there

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen. I think what they've done since McDermott got

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 4>there could be taught at like a sports business school

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 4>of how to rebuild a franchise through picks, through trade,

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 4>through free agency, how to take something where there was

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 4>basically nothing and create a consistent winner. Hopefully they you know,

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 4>for them, they get a Super Bowl eventually, and it

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 4>really completes that story.

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 7>But I think he was excellent.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 4>But you look at the track record over the last

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 4>few years and in the draft specifically, there's just not

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 4>enough home runs. There's a bunch of singles, Like at Oliver,

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 4>you found a guy who you can kind of build around.

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 7>That was twenty nineteen. For the most part, all.

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 4>Their best player, their core players, were found back then

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 4>when they first got their seventeen eighteen nineteen, maybe twenty,

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 4>and since then they've been hitting singles. He needs this

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 4>fine guys that can be around now. They don't pick

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 4>until late. I've seen some stuff that maybe they trade

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.319
<v Speaker 4>up for wide receiver. I think that's crazy because they

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.399
<v Speaker 4>do have some fifths and sixth in this class where

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 4>they can trade to move around. But I think they

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 4>need to find two or three real difference makers in

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 4>the top seventy five picks. We're going to talk receiver tomorrow,

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 4>but you know their number one receiver right now out

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.760
<v Speaker 4>wide is Curtis Samuel or Khalil Shiftier.

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who.

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 7>Geez it's concaid. I mean they need a wide receiver.

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.399
<v Speaker 4>They've signaled that they're really happy with their offensive line.

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 4>They recently signed Layout Collins too, so I think that's

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 4>one area they won't hit. But especially in the secondary,

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 4>the defense and at wide receiver, They need core guys.

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 4>They need the bills that are gonna help carry Josh

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Allen to where he hasn't gone before. I think he

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 4>can do it because he's done it before. But they're

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 4>they're starting to run out of time. I liked the

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 4>draft last year. It worked out okay, but they need

0:55:58.080 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 4>to start stacking him.

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:03.479
<v Speaker 3>One thing I don't like about Buffalo's situation is when

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, less than a month before the draft, you

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 3>created a burning need at a you know, for an

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 3>offense that you know you can say, Josh Allen, go

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 3>do it all on, it's on his own. Well, no,

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 3>we can't. Like, that's just not how this is going

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 3>to work. And so you have to go find that

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver. It's absolutely you need to use it. You

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:23.799
<v Speaker 3>might need a trade up if you fall in love

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 3>us on, but then you need that wide receiver to

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 3>like produce right away.

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I just don't love the situation. I think things. I

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>think there is a.

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Lot of pressure on the coach, there's a lot of

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 3>pressure on the quarterback. There's a lot of pressure on

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.879
<v Speaker 3>the front office. And they were they did Brandon Bean

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 3>did such a good job building this thing. But they're

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>in a place that they did not plan to be

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't think on any level right now.

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 2>And they could they could make an aggressive move up

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the board potentially to grab one of these top wide receivers,

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>but it might end up being more likely that with

0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 2>that twenty eighth overall pick, or even in this second

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 2>round where they pick sixtieth. Yeah, they have to be

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>sharper than ever and identify someone that is a high

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>value guy and hope they hit on it. They see

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I agree with it you're saying, Mark, They just seem

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 2>very kind of vulnerable where they where they are right now,

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 2>and if you were going to trade digs, the timing

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of it post free agency, pre draft almost just puts

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 2>more pressure on the organization to hit on something. And

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 2>it's not easy to hit on these guys. It's as

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>good as this wide receiver classes. And like Greg said,

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about that episode later this week, Like,

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not easy to land on the guy that actually

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 2>turns into a big time pro, and they need a.

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Guy who's going to be a big time pro. They're

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to win a super Bowl.

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not good enough anymore just to go twelve and

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 2>five or thirteen and four. Immense pressure in Western New York.

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>That was that, GREGI Marky.

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think the most interesting spot in the

0:57:56.160 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 3>first round is number four there on the Cardinals. And

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I think with some of these guys, like with Brandon Bean,

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 3>you can look back and say, well, what have his

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 3>drafts been? And with Monte Austin Fort their GM, I'm

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 3>less concerned with. You know, he doesn't have that track record,

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 3>but he did. He almost reminds me of our old

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 3>guy Sashi Brown, where he came in with a very

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:19.440
<v Speaker 3>distinct strategy they used last year to compile draft picks.

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 3>They didn't trade Kyler Murray, which was kind of this

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 3>thing that people, you know, I thought might happen. But

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>they're cool at quarterback, so they're not a candidate to

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 3>take a quarterback at number four.

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 1>They talk about a team that needs wide receivers.

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 3>They've got Michael Wilson, who I like, Greg Dortch, who

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I like. Is these are supporting guys and Chris Moore essentially,

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 3>so you know there are there another team that like, well,

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 3>what do you do?

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You created this burning need.

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>You could also, I think, obviously trade these picks to

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings and get a good wide receiver down down

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 3>in the down the board a little bit. I guess

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I just cannot wait to see what they do. They've

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>got eleven picks in this draft, and it's cool to

0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.440
<v Speaker 3>keep accruing them. But to go back to Sashi Brown

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 3>because the one that kind of comes up is like

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I love the strategy because I think it's it's like

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 3>you're always gonna have a team when you're number four,

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 3>and they have needs all over the place, so recreate

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 3>this team with young players. But that's Sashi Brown, a

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 3>crewman of draft picks, and this is other teams to

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 3>try this too. It's like you got to hit on

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 3>them and they missed on a lot. There was one

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 3>draft where they drafted like four wide receivers and a

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 3>quasi like tight end wide receiver type hybrid and like

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 3>none of them worked. None of them worked, And like

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 3>that's only the beginning of how it didn't work. So

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess what I want to find out is like

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Monte Austin fort, great plan, good strategy, You've got you

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 3>sit at the inflection point of the entire first round

0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 3>where you're gonna get great value like you did from

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 3>the Texans a year ago, and you can't argue with

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 3>that strategy. But then are you the front office, the GM,

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the group of people to go get the right players,

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 3>because if that doesn't happen, you passed on someone like

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Harrison Junior. It's like you could get a legit,

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 3>bonafide likely Hall of Famer, or you can continue your

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 3>draft capitol building plan. I just cannot wait to find

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<v Speaker 3>out what they're offered, what they say yes to, what

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<v Speaker 3>they say no do, and what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>They have so many needs and they're just like a

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<v Speaker 4>little unlucky. Do you remember I sort of memory hold

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<v Speaker 4>this game, but week seventeen, they were down twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>to six to the Eagles and Kyler Murray ends up

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<v Speaker 4>putting up thirty five points. This is like it felt

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<v Speaker 4>like the bottom of the Eagles season, and yet they

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<v Speaker 4>had more lengths to go and they won that game,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, they would have only won three games.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they would have been two picks higher if

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<v Speaker 4>they hadn't won that game, and they would be in

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<v Speaker 4>such a better position here to trade that number two

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<v Speaker 4>pick for a quarterback that they could have gotten the

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<v Speaker 4>farm for. And sometimes it is a little lucky. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like the Panthers got this one pick for the pan

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the Bears got this number one pick for

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<v Speaker 4>the Panthers being like this bad. No one expected them

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<v Speaker 4>to be this bad. So it's just like a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of bad luck. And they have so many needs

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<v Speaker 4>that it's like you could pick any position and they

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<v Speaker 4>need it other than quarterback.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say maybe maybe offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go glass half full in the sense that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if this management you know, and never

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<v Speaker 2>forget ownership, and when you look at the teams are

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<v Speaker 2>successful and teams that aren't, like it all connects like

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<v Speaker 2>can you trust the Arizona Cardinals to make the right decision?

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<v Speaker 2>And if they were sitting with the number two pick,

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<v Speaker 2>as you're saying, like, then they have to or more

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<v Speaker 2>most likely make a decision either to draft a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>or they trade out of the pick, and maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>the trade they make is great, or maybe it makes

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<v Speaker 2>them overthink things and mess things up. The way it

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<v Speaker 2>is now, it's almost dummy proof. It's like you got

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<v Speaker 2>in a top flight wide receiver year. You need a

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<v Speaker 2>top flight wide receiver for this quarterback that you paid

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<v Speaker 2>all this money to go Just take Marvin Harrison or

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<v Speaker 2>whoever you think is the best wide receiver, don't overthink

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<v Speaker 2>it and and get better overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you mess this one up? Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a tough one for even the Cardinals too,

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<v Speaker 3>But they're like I think they're likely. I would greg,

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<v Speaker 3>where would you put the odds that they trade it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it depends what I think the vikings are

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<v Speaker 3>already called them. It's like I would put it at

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<v Speaker 3>like sixty percent that they would maybe trade it. That

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<v Speaker 3>may be a little bit high.

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<v Speaker 2>But or just like justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or

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<v Speaker 2>a player of that level to your roster right now

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<v Speaker 2>with your quarterback that you're still trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right, I guess that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's nothing wrong with trading back when there's

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback starve team out there and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the phone of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It rings.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, like I feel like just taking a potential

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<v Speaker 2>first team All Pro level wide receiver is a path

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<v Speaker 2>to getting a lot better also, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And to give my Monte Austin for credit, look, last

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<v Speaker 4>year Will Anderson turned out to be great for Houston,

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<v Speaker 4>But the Cardinals are happy with that trade. They already

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<v Speaker 4>did a trade down last year, and they had a

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<v Speaker 4>sneaky good rookie class. They got, you know, four or

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<v Speaker 4>five real contributors, real NFL players, so they're off to

1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:02.000
<v Speaker 4>a good start. I think it's a good coaching staff

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<v Speaker 4>and the GM has done a good job so far.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, Mark, I think it's significant the chances they trade.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd put it a little lower just because Harrison's so

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<v Speaker 4>special that it's like forty sixty. But it feels like

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<v Speaker 4>it could happen for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got a weird one here in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the headline, because I wanted to give a headline for

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<v Speaker 2>each of these Yes, the Jaguars, let's talk about the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 2>Little Bartacamas, the Bartaka heads are going off right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Got Doug Peterson, and I was thinking a headline for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason. The phrase I do not want what I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't got just came into my head, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the title of Shenado O'Connors nineteen eighty nine album that

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<v Speaker 2>had of course nothing compares to you on it, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why did I think of that? Why did

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<v Speaker 2>that just come into my brain? That seems strange? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even like a huge shnade head, like a respector

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<v Speaker 2>and rest in peace, and he is Irish. I loved

1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Sinead O'Connor's voice, but like, it's not like I was

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<v Speaker 2>a super fan. I don't own an album, so why

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<v Speaker 2>did I do not want what I haven't got come

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<v Speaker 2>into my brain? So anyway, apparently it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a song off the album, and it's it's said

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<v Speaker 2>to be about finding acceptance for what can't be changed,

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<v Speaker 2>making peace with loss and limitation, and finding the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to live and love.

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<v Speaker 7>I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of it's about Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, like are the Jaguars now we maybe didn't draft

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<v Speaker 2>the savior of all saviors and and he's he could

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<v Speaker 2>he could be very good, but there's some limitations here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna be the guy that takes you just

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<v Speaker 2>on his back.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can move on from that. You once you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good, potentially great quarterback, but maybe not a first

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<v Speaker 2>ballot Hall of Famer. Now that we know that, we

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<v Speaker 2>process that and maybe there's some grief involved there, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the end of the world. You still have

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback that twenty five teams in the league, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three teams in the league, maybe twenty teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the league would kill to have.

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<v Speaker 1>So we move forward, and how do they do that? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>They and this is here's a quote. Do we have

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<v Speaker 2>this quote by the way, etp from Doug Peterson.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if I'll ever get over it. I

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<v Speaker 8>think for me, it's going to be my motivation, my fuel,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, moving forward, you know, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 8>to let it cloud the vision. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 8>it's going to be it's going to be close in

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<v Speaker 8>my mind as I move forward with the team.

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<v Speaker 2>This spring, Doug Peterson was talking about the one in

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<v Speaker 2>five finish to the season when they were eight and

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<v Speaker 2>three and on top of the world. They won in

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<v Speaker 2>Houston on right around Thanksgiving to go to eight and three,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the wheels fell off and Trevor Lawrence's injury

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<v Speaker 2>played a big role in that, but it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing. The defense melted down as well. So now

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<v Speaker 2>they have to figure out where they're at and they

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<v Speaker 2>have let's see, they have the seventeenth overall pick. They

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<v Speaker 2>also and they have the forty eighth overall pick in

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<v Speaker 2>the second round, and then they have a compensatory pick

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<v Speaker 2>in the third round. So they have three picks in

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<v Speaker 2>the top ninety six, two in the top fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you go if you're Balki? Where do you go?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Doug Peterson, who took the end of that

1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:26.360
<v Speaker 2>season very personally, you're definitely set at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You believe you got to decide whether you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make Trevor Lawrence a top five paid quarterback in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a decision that it's going to be difficult. But

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do to try to get better in

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<v Speaker 2>the AFC South and be as also Peterson said in

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<v Speaker 2>that press availability at the owners meetings, like they're back

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<v Speaker 2>to being the hunter in the AFC South, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at like move the sticks mocks Terry and Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>to cornerback out of Alabama to Jacksonville. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of issues with miscommunications in the secondary, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>blown coverages late in the season, So that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and say also the repercussions of a move that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us first guessed at the time that Trayvon

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<v Speaker 2>Walker first overall pick when you had Aiden Hutchinson who

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like the safer pick because Walker hasn't become the

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<v Speaker 2>guy they expected them to be. They have a big

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<v Speaker 2>needed edge rusher still. So I think it's the defense

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<v Speaker 2>where you're focused, but you can't ignore the offense that

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<v Speaker 2>needs help. With Ridley out the door and Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 2>at a kind of an inflection point in his career,

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<v Speaker 2>like who is he will give him the right setup

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<v Speaker 2>and give him the cast that allows him to maximize

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<v Speaker 2>what he is very important, a lot of pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>the brain trust in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd kind of maybe part of it is, like, see

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<v Speaker 3>what type of wide receiver falls to you. They're seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>you said, because it is, it's a special draft on

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<v Speaker 3>that note, and like, I kind of think it's easier

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<v Speaker 3>when you're a team that has a couple burning needs,

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<v Speaker 3>like they need a wide receiver, they need secondary help.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you maybe can't go I mean, you can go

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with any of these picks, but you probrobably can't

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<v Speaker 3>walk away from the first round of feeling good about

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<v Speaker 3>whoever you add, Like it's I don't hate their spot there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm higher on Trevor Lawrence maybe than you are. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the injury hurt him a lot last year,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's still like the way he ended the season

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<v Speaker 3>before outside of the playoff game, Like he's six y six,

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<v Speaker 3>he can run, he can do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark, Where would you have him in your quarterback rankings

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so, I mean the QB rank the QB Index

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<v Speaker 3>is based on like literally the last kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>we saw.

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<v Speaker 7>Over the off season, we just kind of doll I

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<v Speaker 7>wipe that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in general, I would say this, I think he

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<v Speaker 3>has absolute potential to be a top ten quarter But where.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you put him right now? That's all I'm saying. Twelve?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I would too, I would put him in

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<v Speaker 2>that territory. And I'm saying, do you is it time

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<v Speaker 2>to give the ghost that you have the top three guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's all I'm saying, Yeah, just not yet. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that that would be like ad But.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you can win with the top ten

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback obviously and many half so it's not the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. I'm just saying him as the all

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<v Speaker 2>world savior Peyton Manning type guy. Maybe that's the calibration

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<v Speaker 2>that need or the recalibration that needs to be made.

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<v Speaker 4>Yea, I need to I need to write the list down,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like I'm lower on Lawrence and consensus,

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<v Speaker 4>but maybe not in this room. I feel I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's still in the top ten. He's probably right around

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<v Speaker 4>nine or ten. And that's his play so far, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he can get back. I think he's he

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of good play last year that that

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<v Speaker 4>they were not supporting him early in the season. But

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<v Speaker 4>they are a weird team. I agree Mark that the

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<v Speaker 4>need the needs aren't that screaming. They're a better version

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<v Speaker 4>to me of the Broncos, where it's like they're average

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<v Speaker 4>to good at most spots. Secondary to me is an

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<v Speaker 4>especially cornerback is the biggest need.

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<v Speaker 7>But they feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>They solve something by signing Ark Armstead, but that you

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<v Speaker 4>know that's an older player with an injury last year,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you need defensive lineman even if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>third edge with Walker and Alan, or if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>defensive tackle, and they would have loved to keep Bridley,

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<v Speaker 4>so that receiver wasn't a need, but now you go

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<v Speaker 4>into it with aany like. I think Lawrence is emblematic

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<v Speaker 4>of this whole team. It's sort of in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>They spent a lot on the offensive line, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not a bad line, but they've spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>resources for it to just be eh uh. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know their guy, our guy Balki, our guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he survived a lot of different power struggles. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>know who the coach was when Trent balk entered the

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<v Speaker 4>building there.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Doug Maroone, it was, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 4>there with Moron my urban Meyer kept him around as like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you can kind of be my guy who takes care

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<v Speaker 4>of that side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Darryl Bebbll remember he was an interim head coach there

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<v Speaker 4>for a while and now he's still here with Peterson.

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<v Speaker 4>He had all those power struggles in San Francisco. He

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<v Speaker 4>supposedly wants a team that's like bigger and tougher and

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<v Speaker 4>stronger and faster than everyone. And I don't quite see that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're they're very middle of the pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know, it's time figure some things out there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good stuff, let's a break and then we'll wrap

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<v Speaker 2>things up. All right, we're back, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still you know, Colleen has been missing for about

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<v Speaker 2>forty five to fifty minutes now, and it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at now, Mark, it's gone from a search

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<v Speaker 2>and rescue to I hate to say this a search

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<v Speaker 2>and recovery.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean, I think part of the difficulty

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're still, you know, locked in our chairs

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<v Speaker 3>trying to produce the show while realizing that we've lost

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<v Speaker 3>our friend. And so we're going to shift into full

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<v Speaker 3>investigation mode after the show. But if you can find

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<v Speaker 3>the Delaware tapes, I believe we can find like a

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<v Speaker 3>five foot one blonde.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been reports out there from various police scanners

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<v Speaker 4>on the East side of Los Angeles that there's been

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<v Speaker 4>witnesses to a young blonde woman talking about Quescia Dolfo

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<v Speaker 4>Mensa's third year in his rebuild that that it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of go time. So I do feel like that might

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<v Speaker 4>be a little bit of a clue for where to

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<v Speaker 4>find her, just talking just on the street street street corner.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a little worriesing.

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<v Speaker 2>Colleen has become like the gone girl of this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got to find her and hope she's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, That is it for the Wednesday show, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be back a little later in the week. As

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<v Speaker 2>we said, we're gonna continue our draft wormhole and and

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<v Speaker 2>really dig in on one of the most exciting positions

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe the it depends quarterback wide receiver position groups

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<v Speaker 2>in this draft, which is wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's coming up later this week. Anything else to add.

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<v Speaker 9>Boys before we say goodbye, been a pleasure as always

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<v Speaker 9>as always, and Mark again, not constructive criticism, but just

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<v Speaker 9>a suggestion about your background on remote.

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<v Speaker 3>You have put it on my radar fully and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to think about how to address it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and let me underline this with my wife got

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<v Speaker 2>back to me. The dog rescue place is Love Leo

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<v Speaker 2>Rescue if you are in the southern California area. It

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<v Speaker 2>is an incredibly run organization that really put the pet first.

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<v Speaker 2>Adopt a dog, save a life. Love Leo Rescue as

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<v Speaker 2>a non based profit based a nonprofit based in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>We believe all dogs deserve a second chance, so check

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<v Speaker 2>out Love Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>Rescue dot org. That's where I got my.

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<v Speaker 2>Beloved captain and they do amazing work, So check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>And until next time, he's the call. Where are you, Connie.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, guys, thanks for listening to this episode of the

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<v Speaker 10>Around the NFL podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't wait to do the same.

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<v Speaker 10>I'd like to thank producer Eric Roberts for going into

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<v Speaker 10>the office on an off day just so I'd have

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<v Speaker 10>everything I need to do the show remotely.

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<v Speaker 7>Eric, we tried our best.

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<v Speaker 10>To Greg, thanks for sending out the news items so early.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a true hero move.

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<v Speaker 7>You know me so well.

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<v Speaker 10>To Mark, my brother in anxiety, thanks for probably over

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<v Speaker 10>preparing today. You're always ready for anything and everything. I

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<v Speaker 10>just wish I could say that about my internet provider,

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<v Speaker 10>especially today. And to Dan who never stops believing that

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<v Speaker 10>my remote appearances could maybe work this time. You miss

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<v Speaker 10>all the shots you don't take, and we've taken a

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<v Speaker 10>whole lot of shots, so good times. Gang will reconvene

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<v Speaker 10>in studio to properly heed the call. And now I

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<v Speaker 10>gotta go.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go throw my computer into the sea.