1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsell, John O'shans 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive Time, and it starts right now. 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time. It is Wednesday morning, the 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars getting ready for a home game here this Sunday 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: against the San Francisco forty Niners. Back on the practice 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: field to day, getting ready for that and some news 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: this morning. As the Jaguars have designated for return Brandon 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Linder and James O'Shaughnessy, they can be eligible for practice. 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: They have twenty one days to be elevated to the 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: active roster and Brandon Lennard back on the offensive line 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: is a big deal. Yeah. I mean, neither one of 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: them brings to speed that we've been talking about as 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: being the missing part. But it's pretty fast for a second. 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: It will make them quit. It will lead into big 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: thing one that we're gonna talk about here. It will 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: make them better at the things that they do well. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: So and good and and I've always thought that James 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: O'Shaughnessy was a guy that you want a guy like 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that on your roster. He's not a one um, he 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: could play two, but he's a three, you know, but 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: he can move the chains. You go back to the 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: playoff game in Pittsburgh, he had a couple of big 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: third down catches. He is good at being that guy. 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: So if you can get him back on the field, 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: it would be good for the Jaguars. Well, shawness he's 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: got a chance, I think with Dan Arnold being here 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: when they want to go to receiving tight ends. Uh, 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: he's got a chance to make an impact if you 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: package what if Shaughnessy has done, if you extract played out, 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: extract play to math works, it's if you um take 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: that his best five games that he's had here and 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: put him over sixteen and then package them with Arnold 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: his pace. It's a decent little uh tight end course. 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: So let's see how he does. You know, good kid, 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Let's hope he does well. Those two guys are good players. 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately they both have had the injury bug through the 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: course of their career, unable to stay healthy long enough 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: to build the lender has Oanessy would just be getting 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: things going right. He was a couple of years ago 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: and then towards the a c L in Carolina. So 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: hopefully he can stay healthy the rest of the year 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: and helpless football team. Yeah, and a lot of times 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: I feel like with O'Shaughnessy, it's been asked for him 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: to be the two, maybe even the one at times 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: tight end, and that's not his role because there's just 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: been no one else to help him. Kind of an 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: unfair ask at times, they're better at the position, like 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: John said, so now let's see how he can take 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: them and push them forward. Totally. They're better with both 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: of these guys on the field. Yes. Absolutely. Let's get 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: into Big thing one, which is one step at a time, 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: A really big task this week for the Jaguars offense 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: that is only scoring thirty three points in the past 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: three games. The forty niners defense coming off a game 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: where they held the Rams to a season low ten points. 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: This offense needs to improve. It won't look dramatically different overnight, 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: but they can play better and they have to play 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: better this week. Big thing too, pass the hot sauce. 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: This is Brian's new thing. The Jaguars defense is spicy, 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: a whole new level of confidence to them. This is 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: more upside discover with this unit. You look at someone 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: like Tyson Campbell, you look at more takeaways, unexpected players 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: showing up like Taven Bryan. This is helping kill the 64 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: taste of a very bland offense right now, See Big 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Thing while we just talked about the defense is giving 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: this offense a chance to succeed. And finally, Big Thing 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: three is the Shanahan Special. Forty Niners head coach Kyle 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan is known for taking personnel groups and making mismatches 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: with them. This is a team playing better than their 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: four winds show, and Shanahan is having a good time 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: this week. I'm sure looking at the Jaguars film and saying, 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: all right, there's a hole there and I'm gonna work 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: to exploit it. Alright, So can we go back to 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, because what I really wrote and you 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: change I totally understand is you know the old added 76 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: adverb or not adverb proverb about how do you eat 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: an elephant? Right? One biday at a time? Right? Have 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: you heard this, John? Yeah, he's vaguely right. It seems 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: lie a massive task to change the trajectory, which is 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: another math word um of this offense. Right, you look 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: at it. You said there was no speed. They're not 82 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: going to add speed, So how do they get fast. Well, 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: look you, this offense can't focus on what it can't do. 84 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: It has to focus on what it can do. They 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: have to be better in the running game. If Linder 86 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: comes back, he'll help them be better. They have to 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: be able to move the chains and stay on the field. 88 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: Oh Shaughnessy's a guy who can help them do that. 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: They have to focus on what they can do and 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: try to do it well. Kind of like the old Packers, 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: right They used to almost point and go, we're gonna 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: run it right here, and we're gonna do it on too, 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: But you couldn't stop them because they were so efficient 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: at running what they did. This team has to do 95 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: what it does well over the next eight weeks in 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: order to put points on the board. It makes me 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: a little nervous when you're referencing the sixty Packers in 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: the in the twenty NFL. But I get your point. Uh, 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: this is an offense right now that you don't feel like, 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden're gonna start scoring twenty eight points. 101 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: I've been saying it for a couple of weeks. Uh. 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: What I worried would happen last week is coming to 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: fruition which is the compression of the offense is causing 104 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the fan base to lose their minds over Trevor, which 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: is way premature overall for this game. Uh, I think 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: what we're gonna say the rest of the season about 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: every Jaguars game is, boy, this is a tough matchup 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: because they're all gonna feel tough when you're not scoring points. 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: Um the key I think in every game. And we 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: could probably take this segment and just move on and 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: just start replayed every week. Can the Jaguars defense play 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: well enough against a decent offense to keep the team 113 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: in the game and win late. That's what they were 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: going to try to do last week. It's what they've 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: It's what they've done in their two wins. It's been 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: decided in the last two minutes. It's what the Jaguars are. 117 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: I think it's what I think the defense is playing 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: well enough though this week to have this be that 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: game too. So here's the deal with um the Shanahan special, right, 120 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: I was kind of going with the food theme right 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: past the hot So loss for the elephant and get um. 122 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: Tom Coffin always used to say when he was getting 123 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: ready for the Denver Broncos when Mike Shanahan was there 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: as the head coach, and pick that up. And I 125 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: think a lot of people know that. Maybe not, but 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: the Shanahan system that Gary Kubiak took to Houston that 127 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people saw. They get you to declare 128 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. You're gonna keep your nickel out, 129 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep your dime out, and then they have 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: a way of creating mismatches and running different plays from 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: formations that you've identified. They break their tendencies. They're very, 132 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: very good at that. And what Tom always used to 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: say was the best way to beat that system is 134 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: to know exactly what every person who's out there does. 135 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Forget where they're coming from, but you've got to know 136 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: what the running back does, what the tight end does, 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: what routes the receiver's run. You have to be dialed 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: in against Kyle Shanahan. If you recall in seen a 139 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: very good Jaguars defense was turned inside out on Christmas 140 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Eve in San Francisco because they couldn't solve it and 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo had just gotten there. Remember they started oh 142 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and eight that year and Garoppolo just gotten into the 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: starting lineup and you thought, wow, this is not a 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: very good team. It's a quarterback figured out new way Man. 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: He turned the Jags inside out. You've got to know 146 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: who does what on that offense if you're going to 147 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: beat them, which means these guys have to have their 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: top mental game this week. And what they really do well, 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: they really run well in the tradition of again the 150 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan offense, going back to the Broncos. Yeah, they get 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: you outside. They play they run outside zone, you know, 152 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the technical and they they do that very well. And 153 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: then once they get that established, they do things off 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: of it. They do play action off of it. Um again, 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I it just feels like functioning teams, which the San 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Francisco for the Niners are are going to worry this 157 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: franchise right now because you wonder if this offense can 158 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: go match another team's offense. Right now, they're not doing that, 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: which means that the defense has to get takeaways. The 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: next step for this team is to get takeaways when 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: it matters, and this is a hard defense. Is a 162 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: hard offense to do that against if you're not stopping 163 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: their running. Again, well, without a doubt, but they have 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: fifteen turnovers this year, which is one more than the 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars have, so there are opportunities to get them. But John, 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: you've got to stop the lot. Yeah. And before the 167 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Monday night game against the forty Niners and the Rams, 168 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: you saw a forty Niners team with three wins and 169 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you're kind of trying to figure out what's going on 170 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: with that team that's only one more win and the 171 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars have you feel good? Then you watch that Monday 172 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: night game, you said, oh, this is a team on 173 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: the rise, divisional divisional matchup at home Monday night football. 174 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: But they do have mismatches. They do have guys like 175 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and George Kittle who create problems for you. 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: They've been very inconsistent and now that they have Kittle 177 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: back going the changes there. You know again this time 178 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: of the season, I'm a big believer in does a 179 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: team believe in itself? For owners are starting to believe 180 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: in itself. So that makes the dangerous absolutely, and that 181 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: is big things. 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Yeah, 191 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: this is this interests me because this is all about 192 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: this season is all about identifying guys that are part 193 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: of your future. And I didn't think that I would 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: ever be putting Taven Brian and Cam Robertson together. But Briant, 195 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: they both played premium positions. Uh, they're both former draft 196 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: picks and at the end of this year they're both 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: going to be free agents. Right, So the question is 198 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: who would you rather keep an offensive tackle who's going 199 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: to cost you a lot of money next year? But 200 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is playing well, finally starting to play like 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: we thought that he would. Or Taven Brian, who, again, 202 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: for purposes of this conversation, I'm assuming that what we're 203 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: seeing is them finding a rule for him and asking 204 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: him to do something he does well. So at the 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: end of this year, would you you draft a walk 206 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: a little right? It frees up a lot of cap room. 207 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: You can keep Taven Brian, But if you have one 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: or the other, who do you keep well? As you 209 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: alluded to, and it's not fair if you can take 210 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: money out of the equation. I think you would keep 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson because he's playing well at the more premium 212 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: positions without a doubt. Um, But I don't think you 213 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: can't take much. You can't take money. I think it 214 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: was part of the story. In that case, I would 215 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: still rather keep Cam because I'm just more and more 216 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm becoming a big believer that if you've got a 217 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: guy playing well, you try to keep him and don't 218 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: assume that you're gonna be able to plug and play. 219 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: But tavens into and Taven unbelievably has turned into a 220 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: very interesting story. Can he continue to make an impact 221 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: in this in this uh scheme, in this role he's 222 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: playing because he's mattering right now and he hasn't mattered yet. 223 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: If I hadn't watched him turn Quentin Nelson inside out 224 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: a couple of times last week, I probably wouldn't even 225 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: put his name on there. That's yeah, but he did. 226 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: He did. And remember in training camp, Ashlyn, the head coach, said, 227 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: I want we want to have him here talking about 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: David Bryant. So clearly, John, they've identified something that he 229 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: can really do to help them. In the last couple 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: of weeks, he's really done it. Well. It's it's it's 231 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: interesting because there's never been any thought that he doesn't 232 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: have the physical tools to play. It's always been sort 233 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: of field awareness and you know, just I guess just 234 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: being a natural football player that when you watch him, 235 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: there's just things he's missed over the years. But if 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: you can find a role for that, it's hard to 237 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: find that combination of you know, uh or not combination, 238 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: but just that raw strength and athleticism, which I guess 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: there is a combination. Show. Yeah, Smooth set it in 240 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: his postgame interview I think two weeks ago, and he said, 241 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: when Taven just moves forward, he's unstoppable. And it's clear 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: that's the role. Just go Tavan, go this way and 243 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: wreck Havoc in front of you. He is huge and 244 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: freakishly strong, which is why they drafted it. Yeah, it's 245 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: that's a crazy to start that because three weeks ago, 246 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: we would have laughed at that. Brian, why did you 247 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: write that? But now you understand why? Yeah, you have 248 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: a little more appreciation for me. Yes, of course, you 249 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: know it mine is uh. And I almost apologize for 250 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: bringing this up because it's been such a thing. I 251 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: get asked about it all the time. I'm negative, Net, 252 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: I get it. But you know, do the draw regarding 253 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Do the drop passes hurt more? Or 254 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: do the lack of speed hurt more? And I think 255 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting because they hurt in different ways. Uh. The 256 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: lack of speed is compressing the offense, and yet the 257 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: drop passes are what you desperately need to convert third downs, 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: to convert these big plays. I would still go with 259 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: the lack of speed hurting more. Uh, the lack of 260 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: plays down the field because I thought of this on Monday, Brian, 261 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: watching this team right now, watching the play offense, they 262 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: feel like they're in the red zone all the time, 263 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: meaning they're always playing he gets a compressed field. And 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: I was watching the Manning cast and Peyton talked on 265 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: that broadcast about something he talked about for years when 266 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I covered him, how much more difficult the red zone 267 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: is in any of the area field to him, red 268 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: zone efficiency. When their red zone efficiency was up, he 269 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: thought that was when they were at their best offensively. 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Right now, it feels like this team plays in the 271 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: red zone all the time because everything's bunched up, everything's 272 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: in that twenty yard field and it's brutally hard. So 273 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what hurts the speed to me. I mean, 274 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: look again, it's why I kept banging the table, trade trade, trade, trade, trade, 275 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: get somebody. Remember I said that a hundred times, And 276 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: that's why I jumped in on the Odell Beckham stuff, 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: even though I knew they weren'ting to go ahead and 278 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: grab him. Because you can't teach speed you don't have it. 279 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: You can't work without it. The safeties are squatting twelve 280 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: yards up the field because they're not worried about getting 281 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: beat deep, which means they can send extra people to 282 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: stop the run, which takes away play action. And your 283 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: quarterback's got nothing, which is exactly how you play in 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: the red zone. They've got nothing. So I would say 285 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: speed because at least if you if you've got a 286 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: who's taking the top off, if you have d J. 287 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: Chark who is going down the field and the safety 288 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: has to honor that. It's going to open something up 289 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: for someone else, and your quarterback would have more opportunities, 290 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: more choices to get rid of the ball to a target. 291 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: Right now, it is the lack of speed in my estimation. 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Totally agree, because lack of speed would at least create 293 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity to catch the ball or drop the ball, 294 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: drop the pass, and we've seen five crucial drops last 295 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: week against the Colts. But the lack of speed is 296 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: obvious that it's not helping a rookie quarterback right now. 297 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: And that's why Twitter is going crazy about this guy. 298 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: Unfairly easy and not everything's going to be easy for 299 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Ricky quarterback, but it's fair to ask for a few 300 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: things to be easy. Yeah, just a couple of favorites, 301 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: and right now nothing looks easy because nothing's open. Yeah. 302 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so I get John Brown on the field now, right, 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean again, he's thirty one years old. Is he 304 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: the same speedster we saw when he came out of 305 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh State for the Arizona Cardinals. Probably not, but someone's 306 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to honor him. If he can run, you've 307 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: got to have speed on the field. Indeed, talking about 308 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: speed on the field, let's go to the forty niners 309 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: for this, this or that. George Kittle or Deebo Samuel. 310 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Pick your poison. Which guy do you want to pay 311 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: more attention to this Sunday? If you're the defense deepo 312 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Samuel making a case for Offensive Player of the Year 313 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty seven yards and seven touchdowns. George Kittle, 314 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: a mismatched nightmare, well respected for his blocking ability, and 315 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: absolutely pancaked Von Miller on Monday Night Football. What do 316 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you think I'm focusing more attention on George Kittle? I 317 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: believe that the Jaguars have some matchups where they can 318 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: stay over the top of Deebo SAMUELI a terrific receiver. 319 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna make plays, just like they did when Stefon 320 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Diggs was here a couple of weeks ago. I think 321 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: they can manage that on the back end. But in 322 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: the middle they have been getting killed. And George Kittle 323 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: is such a matchup problem. He's fast, it's powerful. He 324 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: is a really talented guy. Fifth round, by the way, 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: fifth round, you can find these guys, right, You've got 326 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: to look, but you can find him. Um, I would say, 327 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: George Kittle is the guy I want to take a way. Yeah, 328 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: I agree, Samuel to me, I see him having a 329 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: similar game as us now that I'm drawing a blank Pittman, Yeah, um, 330 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: with some crossing routes. Pittman heard him against the Colts, 331 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: but he didn't own the game. You know, tight ends 332 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: against this team have so owned the game so often 333 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: that a guy like Kidd really worries you, especially when 334 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: you're playing a team that could run as well as 335 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: forty nine, and they'll be paying attention to that, which 336 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: gives Kittle space to to operate underneath. So I would 337 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: worry more about Kittle considering the tight ends in the past. Yeah, 338 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and you look at Shaquille Griffin, who now a couple 339 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: of weeks now has shadowed that number one wide receiver, 340 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: and coach Meyer said it on Monday that he feels 341 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: like this past defense is improving. They're they're kind of 342 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: taken away the explosiveness of that number one guy. So 343 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the familiarity there obviously in their time in the NFAC 344 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: West together. And you're gonna get in this league right now, 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you're going to usually give up some yards to the 346 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: best receiver on the other he's gonna have some play. 347 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: That's why Pittman didn't really bother you that much. It 348 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: wasn't great when it happened, but overall, in the course 349 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: of the game, he didn't wreck the game. Tight ends 350 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: against this team tend to wreck the game because they 351 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: give up those third down plays, the touchdowns in the 352 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: red zone. So that's where they've got to stop. 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He's gonna have a first out of the 363 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: one yard line of the Indian Appolium. Listen, listen, we're 364 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: gonna bang this thing in right here. Lower your paths, 365 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: all right. The other thing here, we're gonna go for 366 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: two on this, gonna give it to day Rod Poclus 367 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: times then gone touchdown. Now here comes a two point 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: g garden. They want to make it a three point 369 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: game for ever? Roll right if a little shuble pass 370 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: under Day to Dan Arnold and an easy converge and 371 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: he walked into the jump. A lot of yelling going 372 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: on there, tight end. Dan Arnold miked up against the 373 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. You can check out that full episode, as 374 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: well as all the micd Up episodes on Jaguars dot Com. 375 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: We're back Jaguars Drive time on a Wednesday. It's time 376 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: for ozone snapshot. Frienzy. Okay, we're going to Annapolis. Nick, 377 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Hey? John? Is there 378 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: enough evidence since the bye week to conclude the Jaguars 379 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: defense is actually pretty good? It's not really good? Well, 380 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: it took me a lot of figure out. Is really 381 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: good better than pretty good? I guess it come out 382 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: really good? Um? I think there, yes, there is evidence 383 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: to show that this defense is for real. It's gotten 384 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: to the point. Um, And I'll throw this up to 385 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: you guys, Um, do you trust the defense now? After 386 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: a really bad start in a lot of areas, and 387 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: even after the Bills game, I was still Okay, let's 388 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: see him do it one more time. After the Colts game, 389 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I trusted. So I would say there's evidence to suggest 390 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: that they have a chance to be really good. They 391 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: gotta do it every week in the league. Not every week. 392 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to play that well every week defensively. 393 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: But over the course of the next eight games, if 394 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: if six of them are like of Bills and the Colts, 395 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: would you say they're a pretty good defense. You'd like to. 396 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: I think it's something now that you start thinking, maybe 397 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: we can build around this and know what we have. 398 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: How big is that for this season? It's huge, And 399 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I think you can go back. You can go back 400 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: to the Titans game where for three quarters right until 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: the pick six, for three quarters they were stuffing the run, 402 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: they were playing well. They didn't have enough at that 403 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: moment to be able to catapult at once things turn south. 404 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: But then they made the key plays in the fourth quarter. Right. 405 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the way that they 406 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: held the the Dolphins down and forced field goals and 407 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Colts and forced field goals in 408 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: situations where the game could have gotten out of hand, John. 409 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: I think that's where you really look and see the progress. 410 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Five field goals, one touchdown the last two weeks against 411 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: two teams. Now that we're scoring better than thirty four 412 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: points a game over the last five games, that's impressive. Yes, 413 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I trust this defense. You can see a scenario now, 414 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: and I hope this scenario happens where uh, sometime in 415 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: the next six months will be Carton Josh Allen out 416 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: for a mega deal and uh, I only say that 417 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: to me. You didn't know what you were building around 418 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: on this franchise before he started doing that. You knew 419 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: about Trevor obviously, but now all of a sudden, you've 420 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: got another core piece that I think fits into what 421 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about. I trust Josh Allen now to be great, 422 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: and I think I trust the defense to be again. 423 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's really hard to play where they've 424 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: given up one meaningful touchdown over two games. That's hard 425 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: to sustain. But you feel like you can start counting 426 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: on that more and more each week. Unbelievable positive right now. 427 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: Put it this way, the defense early on might have 428 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: given up a touchdown to the Colts on that drive 429 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, which would have put the game 430 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: out of reach. They knew they couldn't. They held them 431 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: to a field goal and at least gave the offense 432 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: a chance for the game winning touchdown an extra point 433 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: they didn't convert, but they put the in the rule 434 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And that's why I 435 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: trust this defense. Yeah, all you're asking for is a chance, 436 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: and I think you feel good about the progress they're making. 437 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: The only thing, and I don't even want to say 438 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: it worries me because I don't think it will happen 439 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: as you go back to the Seattle game where they 440 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: were improving. Before that game, you thought, Okay, they're going 441 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: to be competitive this game, and then the disorganization came 442 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: back and we still really haven't figured out why in 443 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: that game did it come back. So as long as 444 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: you don't see that again, you feel good about this unit. 445 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Very fair, all right, So let's go to Pittsburgh, Rob, 446 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? I always love how 447 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: they say hello to you, Hey, Zone. At what point 448 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: do you expect the Jags to play Jordan's and andre 449 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: They are the future? Yeah they are, um, but I 450 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: don't think they're the now and I get that there 451 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: is a understandable grounds, well, we want to see andre Cisco. Um, 452 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: he's I think he has more upside than Andrew Wingard. 453 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I think anybody would doubt that. But and Jordan Smith, 454 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see much this year. Drafted as 455 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: a project, he's a defensive end linebacker. People aren't familiar. 456 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: He was drafted as a project. I don't see him 457 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: breaking through in a line rotation that's playing really, really well. 458 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Maybe at the end to see him, but not when 459 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: it matters. Um so I I guess the answer would be, 460 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: at what point do you expect that Jay Wars to 461 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: play him when somebody else in the defense isn't playing 462 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: well enough for them to be in And right now 463 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: you're playing the best defensive football that they've played since 464 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: what mid two eighteen. I don't see him upset in 465 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: the apple cart. That's another little saying. She um, much 466 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: to my surprise, Andrew Wingers played pretty well. Um, he's 467 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: not your long term solution, hence the draft choice for 468 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: andre Cisco, but he's risen to the challenge of holding 469 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: onto that starting job. And here are we nine games 470 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: into this thing, and he's held onto the starting job. 471 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: When Cisco beats him, he'll be on the field. Yeah. 472 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: And we've been asking coach, well, what's going on, where's 473 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: Andre Cisco? And they're saying he has a physical ability, 474 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: but it's wing guard understanding the defense that much more 475 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: that's winning him the job. I think Jordan Smith, from 476 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: what I understand, also is a ways away. Was a 477 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: ways away when training camp began, is still a ways away. 478 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Maybe next year you're finding a rule for him on 479 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: third down. Yeah. And even when they draft them, they 480 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: said it was a working project. I get stronger. Never 481 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: upset the apple cart. No, never. Let's go to section 482 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: four ten. Bobby, Hi, John, when do you think our 483 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: offense will stop being so offensive? Good job? Bobby? Yeah, 484 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: you know what the answered to that, Well, it's it's 485 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: your thing. Help is not on the way during this season. 486 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: I was asked in the ozone mail bag this week, UM, 487 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: so you're saying it's going to be until the draft 488 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: next year. I think it's gonna be this still free agency. 489 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't really see where you know, as I've said 490 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: for three or four weeks on it, I think you 491 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: will see marginal improvement. I think you will see games 492 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: where you know, success for this offense to me feels 493 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: like if you can get three drives of seventy plus yards, 494 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, a field goal and then maybe score off 495 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: of a turnover somewhere and get to four points. That 496 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: sort of feels like unless something weird happens, it's gonna 497 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: be there. High. So I think you'll see that get 498 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: better with James Robinson. I don't think you're all of 499 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: a sudden going to see a dynamic offense, because I 500 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: hope they do. But have you seen any evidence of it? 501 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: Not yet? And eight games in you sort of know 502 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: what they are. Not I'm sorry, nine games and you 503 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: know what they are. Free agency and the draft. I mean, 504 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: John d. J. Sharp's a free agent, right, you don't 505 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: know where he is. They're probably not bringing him back, 506 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: not paying him for sure. Travisy Tans coming off a 507 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: serious injury for a player of his style, right, So 508 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: you're going out, You're you're going to add two receivers 509 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: in free agency and one in the draft early on. 510 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: You know on day two, if not on Day one, 511 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna go overboard with speed. And I keep bringing it, 512 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: bringing it and bringing it. Negative. Ned is gonna worry 513 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: some Jaguars fans. It's hard at at wide receiver. It's 514 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: not hard to find wide receivers, but it's hard to 515 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: find what we're talking about in the volume that we're 516 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: talking about because teams don't let it go. It's particularly 517 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: hard to find it quickly when you if you want 518 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, there's certain positions you can go find 519 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Elite wide receivers not something If I have one, I 520 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: don't want to give it up, so and then it's 521 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: so it's hard to find them in free agency that 522 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: are truly elite. It's hard to find them in the 523 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: draft that are ready to come in and be big 524 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: time immediately. Their exceptions to that. It's getting easier now, 525 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be a progress where they 526 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: get a little better next year and then find their 527 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: guys and develop them. For two years ago, people wondered 528 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: what are the Bills doing when they send a first 529 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: round picked to Stefon Dicks or to Minnesota for Stefon Dicks. 530 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: I'd say that's worked out really, really well for them. 531 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: They will have to turn over every rock and pick 532 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: up the phone and call every team to find what 533 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: they need. But you cannot because we know rookie wide 534 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: receivers to um, you you cannot just say, well, we'll 535 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: get one in the draft. You're gonna need more than 536 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: just that. And I get to in the draft, I 537 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: can see that being first three rounds if they like guys, 538 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: because really, you're not to belabor the point, if you 539 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: look at the rest of the team, um, everything else 540 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: feels like it's at least serviceable linebacker, secondary. You need 541 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: peace And I'm not saying it's it's built to use 542 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: that word, but you you're functioning. It's wide receiver where 543 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: you must get better. I had to say, but where 544 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: would they be if instead of drafting Caleb and Chason 545 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: two years ago, they had taken Richard Jefferson is Richard Jefferson. 546 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: J jefferson him, Yeah, you need to Justin Jefferson's where 547 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: would they be? They would have they would have a 548 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: speed guy on the field right now who was killing 549 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: it up in Minnesota, King McCardell, by the way, So yeah, 550 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: things are good up there with Justin Jefferson Dot Jaguars. 551 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Two of those guys in the draft this year. Jefferson's father, 552 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: by the way, we went to Rains High school. Wow, 553 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: would you look at that? We're making connection song on 554 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drivetime on a Wednesday. When we come back. Some 555 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: closing thoughts here on the Jaguars Digital Network. H veterans 556 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: Choose v A for the benefits you've earned, visit choose 557 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: dot v A dot Go. Thank you for tuning in. 558 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: The Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday, presented by Jet 559 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Home Loans head coach Urban Meyer. Coming up at eleven 560 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: thirty you can watch on Jaguars dot com Live. 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