1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to money making conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: not broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: we go. Ah, Yes, welcome to money making conversation. As 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: he said, this is ras Sean McDonald feeling good about 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: feel I'm feeling good about my life and you have 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: to feel good about your life when you get God 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: is giving you an opportunity to see this day. This day, 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: not your alarm clock. It was just some device because 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: at alarm clock, if you could go off and you couldn't, 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe not see that game. So it's not your alarm clock. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: Just wicky YEA, let's get that straight right. It's it's 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: just a mechanism in your life that you're setting to 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: a wink Q up now speaking to myself, ra Sean. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: I get up at four fifteen every day. Sometimes I 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: just get up before the alarm clock. So who woke 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: me up? Then it wasn't my alarm car. So you 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: got to understand the rules that were playing. We have 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: the right faith and believing that faith, then you're gonna 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: get up on time. You listen to Money Making Conversation. 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: It's my show. It's about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the consumer and business owner access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: and what they call industry decision makers. Then turn deliver 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy, and how they 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: leave a balance life. He's on the phone right here. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy about this young man. Um. You know if 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: you if you're follow him on YouTube or listen to me. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: I follow him on YouTube, so I got a lot 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: of views on YouTube. When I need him, I can 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: go YouTube and get him. But I got him on 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: the phone today. My next guest is a chart topping 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: gospel recording artist who is a three time Grammy Award 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: nomin need. He's in Loving Time, Stellar award, went, a 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Dove Award winner, a Billboard Music Award winner. His latest 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: album is Broken Record. This is his fourth album. It 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: will be released on Friday, November one of this year. 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Please walk with the money making conversation, my man, Travis Green, Yo, 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: what's up? I'm done great? First of all, Travis, where 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: are you from? Where were you born? And what did 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: you grow up at? Born? Delaware? First two years Germany primarily, Um, 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I grew up in Georgia, State of Georgia. And um 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: now I'm in to Torolina, so cut all over there. 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: You know you saw Southern boy keeping them southern root, 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Good food down there in South Carolina. Good food. Baby, 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm suthing to my rooms. Yeah, let me ask you this. 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you this. As a gospel 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: music artist, you can, I can. I say you're you're 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: You're different from anyone that I'm gonna just say to me. 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Roshan mcgonald. You know, you know a lot of people 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: are like a man and Steve Harvey. So Stephen, I did, uh, 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Gospel Celebration for like thirteen straight years. 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: So I'm deeply rooted and watching gospel performers, you know, 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: and and so in my and my beliefs and not 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: my understanding. Now tell me what is your style before 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: we really get into the interview, and then I would 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: give you my impressions because I'm impressed. First of all, 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm impressed and I'm a big faith So let me 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: just say that. So anything you say, nothing negative is 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna come out of my mouth about you. I'm just 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna let you know what I see, what I want 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: to hear, what you are, what you feel you're projecting, 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you the greatness that I see. Yeah, 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I would say, man, First of all, I had a 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: capital in a word. I say energy. Man. You know, 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm better passionate about what I do and energetic um. 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, it's like biblical truth 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: but in a digestible format. And that's really what I've 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: been getting to do. To take these ideas about God. 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I like to call revelations of who he is and 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: presented in the melodic form that's catchy, that's easy to uh, 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: that's a poachable or the listener um, but but hopefully 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: life changing wants the word really get inside of you. 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: And so that's that's my style. Man, It's a beautiful style. 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: Now tell me who is your audience. My audience is 80 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: is really done verse believe it or not? And I 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: believe no, no, no, no, no, Travis, I believe it. Okay, Well, 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know until I went out on tour, man, 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't dour in churches. We're doing clubs, 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: but I'm on tour. We're doing theaters and bars and 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it super diverse, man. I mean, 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: you got you got you know, my my family in 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: the room. You got blacks, you got um, but then 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: you got white and you got Hispanics. And I think 89 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: the music is just in such a way that UM 90 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: and that really matter people skinting tones, they can really 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: kind of take it in UM and they get you know, 92 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: they get caught into the energy of what were for them. 93 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: So it's very cool man. Yeah, it's really Uh, it's 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing, first of all, and because of 95 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you're you're you're, you're doing the same 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: lyrics that other African American artists are doing. But it's 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: sometimes I just read there is just resonating in general, 98 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: is resonating with the African American community. Now, your music 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: and your tone it's kind of like almost a low 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: rock and roll. It's kind of like, I won't say 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: rock and roll is not that hard, but it's almost 102 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: if I had to put a style on it. It 103 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: reminds me of and just who then the Blowfish, Darris Rock. 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: It was like watching him. It's like watching him, and 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a negative thing to say, because 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: he had that same He had the same ability to 107 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: have a crossover audience, you know, the diversity of people 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: out there appeally to his music even though he was 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: an African American and he was just singing from the heart, 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: relatable music like you were saying, but George just have 111 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: to be gospel. Yeah, he was South Carolina boy too, 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: so it makes sense absolutely very relatable. And so now 113 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing, because you know, I'm reading your bio 114 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: and like I said, uh before before you got into music, 115 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, here you are at Georgia Southern, you know, 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: and business management degree, you're about to go get an 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: m b a. And but you still don't know who 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: you are. That's the key. So you're still trying to 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: find yourself. So you're still seeking out, but you kind 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: of know what you love. But is it a reality. 121 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: It is a it is a it is a realistic 122 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to go in that direction. Talk of walkers through 123 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: that whole process because a lot of our listeners, a 124 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: lot of people in the life are sitting on that 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: edge of opportunity, but fear, doubt, relatives, goods and friends, 126 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: will will will will push you in the direction of 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: what they feel is safe. Yeah, yeah, I think. I 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: mean you know this because you're you're successful. I think 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: it's a long game, right. The funny thing about a 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: dream man and that it can be the thing that 131 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: that motivates you, but it could also be the thing 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: that discourages you because the dream is so far out 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: of reach, is so different from your uh present reality, 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: that it can be overwhelming. I think the key is 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: too to have the vision of mine, but you know, 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to really be faithful day to day. And so for me, 137 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think the reason I didn't really know 138 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: what I want to do because I like it was 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: in my heart, but it was like, man, I have 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: no idea how to get there, So let me just 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of go and do something familiar and do something 142 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: that showing. And I think that's where most people land 143 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: is like, let me do what's safe and that I 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: can kind of figure my own plan out for. But 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: but God didn't operate like that. Man, God is not 146 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: a gout of like safe platient and she's a guy 147 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: that required her faith. The faith is risky and show 148 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: and say them bedient faith. If I had to simplify 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: what faith is, dedia, faith is that it requires God. Like, 150 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: let's if you can do anything in your own stripty, 151 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: don't need faith to do it right? Anything that required like, man, 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna do this. I ain't got 153 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: no money, i ain't got no connections. I'm just out there. 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: That's what faith looks like, right, So that's what that's 155 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: what I had up out of my life. Well, my friend, 156 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: well you held on to the faith, which is a 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: firm belief, and then you drove past doubters and then 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: somebody encourage you. Because as I would tell people, those mentors, 159 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I call them bumpers in life, people people bump you, 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: And I say, because people are bumped me. When I 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: was about to steer left, they would say said, no, no, no, 162 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: what shan, Your talents are really over here. Trust your talents, 163 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: trust the ability that God is telling you that you 164 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: can grow, that you can win with And that's really 165 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: what this whole conversation is about. That we're talking about. 166 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: But it was. But I also want to transition. I 167 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: want to stay on that music because especially Twining nineteen, 168 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: because it was it was three videos that I tracked 169 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: this year. It really really really allowed me to see 170 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the diverse audience brand of Travis Cream. Let's let's go 171 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: with that one that came out in April. Okay, nothing 172 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: but the Blood? Oh wow, yeah, man, you work. Come come, come, come, 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: come with traffic, Travis, Come on here. I'm what I'm 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: not gonna do when this show money main conversation, it's 175 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: fool somebody because I don't play no music. I don't 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: have no music to hide, you know what I'm saying. 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: So I better start talking because I want you for 178 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Okay, So now where was that? Where was 179 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: that video shot? At? Man? That was that Liberty University Man, 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: Liberty and M and Lynchburg, Virginia. And it was crazy man, 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean talking, I don't know, it's probably fifteen dollant people, 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, uh, students, is this crazy crazy energy? And 183 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: uh a ton of people got saved and got free. Um, 184 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot with like motion on mental um issues and 185 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the students got here from that stuff. 186 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: So it was it was crazy. Man. I'm talking to 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Travis Green. We're discussing not only his latest album, which 188 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: is coming out November one as a Friday musically drops 189 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: on Fridays, but also the record of the album we 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: called Broken Record. Um, we're talking about music that that 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: has affected me over the years, especially this year, and 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: watching these three videos and I had to bring them 193 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: out because of nothing but the blood uh you know, 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: uh uh you know, let go and a good and 195 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: love you know to me and then just seeing the 196 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: transformation then then send you on stage with Stephanie and 197 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: at that environment and looking at the audience. Well, just 198 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: the future of your brand and your music because it's 199 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: related relatable to me. I'm old school, okay, it's relatable 200 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: to a diverse audience. Your your bands one hundred percent 201 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: African American, as what can see, So what what is 202 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: the future your brain? Man? Well? Absolutely absolutely no one 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: in my bandage African American. Okay. So they they're black, 204 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: you know, some of them are black, but all of 205 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: them are in the Naga all one. My drummer is okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 206 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: you got me on the color, you got me on 207 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: the color. Okay. Drummers from Baltimore. But my base players 208 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: Jamaican people, plantation one that our plantation and I'm the 209 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: one that uh from the Philippines. So pretty diverg uh 210 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: group of people. They love black, but they're from all 211 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: over the world. What I think, what I think he 212 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: helps you in your own sound, in your whole sound. 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: It's not restricted, it's very open kind of you know. 214 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: It's almost gives me that Bob Marley type field. That 215 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Bob Marley when he came, you know, and then he 216 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: just blew up and he became so that first because 217 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: that music was so international. And I'm just saying, man, 218 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: and here in your out and it's you know, it's 219 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, you have R and B music, Okay, then 220 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: you have then then then then you have neo soul 221 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: came out, and then but you're doing and then you 222 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: have gospel. You have you know, you have you have 223 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: a strict bible thumping gospel, and then you have gospel 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: that you know that they became transformed with Kurt Franklin 225 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: and uh and the other artists know Donnie mcclerk and uh, 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: you know you Lena as a lot of grades and 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot of new new artists today, you know. And 228 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: then I'm looking at your sound. I I asked you 229 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: again and and and that's why I said, from a 230 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: day from a responsive standpoint, I came across who didn't 231 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: blowfish Darris Rutger as an artist that has transcended I 232 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: feel success in music across the board internationally. And we're 233 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: not talking about Michael Jackson. That's a whole different conversation. 234 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: We're talking about music that that that is relatable. And 235 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: he's just singing. He's just going on stage, putting out 236 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: their guitar and starting to sing. And that's what you're doing, 237 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: my man. And I feel that special man, And and 238 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring don't sure to tell you 239 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: that any comments on that I hope I make. I 240 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: hope I'm making you feel good. Bro. Yeah, you're telling me, man, 241 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: this is crazy. You know, I hear from you. Um Man. 242 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: I just want to make impact, you know, And at 243 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: thesome time, I want to be true to who I 244 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: am and true and honest, you know, and I think 245 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: other people are connecting with really the authenticity man. You know, 246 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: but like who I am and diverge do because I 247 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: grew up on both sides of the tracks and that's 248 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: just kind of my life. So I love people, man uh, 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and I just want to connect with them. And so 250 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: it's not gimmicky. I ain't trying to do something. I 251 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: just I'm just being through to who I am, and 252 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: I think people are clinting with it. So it's cool, man. 253 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to make sure you know I'm down 254 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: with I want you to tell you this to everybody 255 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: on the phone that you know ras Sean McDonald's not 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: a band wagon guy. Travis Green, you just find traffic. 257 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: I've just Travis Green all, We've all the way back 258 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: to twent seventeen and make away, Sir. I appreciate you 259 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: coming on my show Money make a comment, sastion, Um, 260 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: I just want to spread my your brand to my audience. 261 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Is to show about entrepreneurship, is sure about faith, to 262 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: show about understanding that you two can be successful and 263 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: my man, keep being successful and keep supporting who you 264 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: are and delivering the message to everybody. Thank you. Traps 265 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: no no, doubt man much love of money making. Thank you. 266 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Guess why crime breaks spike on Halloween? 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That's blink protect 283 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: dot com slash sale thanks to Blink Home Security and 284 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Halloween just got easier. Also available on Amazon and other 285 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: fine retailers. Blink is an Amazon company and it works 286 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: with Alexa. Hi. This is Roshan McDonald and you're listening 287 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. I'm the host of this show, 288 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the fastest growing podcast in the world. I'm put the 289 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: world out there, I could said in the digital space. 290 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Each Money Making Conversation radio talk show podcast is about 291 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business own 292 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: our access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers 293 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: day in turn, meaning the guests that I interview deliver 294 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: information about career planning, motivation, and financial literacy and how 295 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: they lead it bounds life. My next guest is on 296 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: the phone. She is a producer with a strong music 297 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: background and direct the known for the remix hip hop 298 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Times Fashion, which is this year her newest project. Also 299 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: has worked on Precious Was the two thousand nine project 300 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: and The Woodsman, which is a two thousand fourth project. 301 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: The next project that she's on the phone to talk 302 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: about is The Apollo. We're talking about the famous Apollo 303 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: in Harlem. The Apollo weaves together archival footage of music, comedy, 304 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and dance performances were behind the scene footage of the 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: team that makes the theater ron. The film features interviews 306 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: with such artists as Angela Bassett, Common, Jamie Fox, Doug 307 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: e Fresh, Pat LaBelle, Paul McCartney, Smokey Robinson and for 308 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Real Apollo Debates Winsday November six, So you have to 309 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: watch it the documentary on HBO. Gotta Watch on HBO 310 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: Debates Winsday November six is also available on HBO Now, 311 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: HBO Goal, and HBO on Demand. Please welcome to Money 312 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. The first time we're spoken, and I'm happy 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: there will be a mini many conversations in them in 314 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the future. Please welcome to the show. Lisa Cortez, Thank 315 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: you very much. I am good too, good as we 316 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: say in Arlem. You know, the thing about Lisa was 317 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: this first time we've talked. M I always like to 318 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: everybody kind of get a sense of who I am interviewing. Uh. 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I get credits, and sometimes the credits are narrowed down 320 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: to the project that I'm speaking of. He gives a 321 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: little bit more about your background before you really got 322 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: into the film and television side of your career. Uh yeah, 323 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: I was very lucky to uh start my professional career 324 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: working at def Jam and Rush in the golden Age 325 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: of hip hop. And from there I went on to 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Mercury Records with at Eckstein and then ultimately had my 327 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: own label at PolyGram called Loose Cannon Records. UM. After 328 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: a certain time, I think, as I saw the changes 329 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: that was happening in the music business in the late nineties, 330 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: a long time ago, I decided I wanted to start 331 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: making films because I saw that the power of cinema 332 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: could travel all over the world and that a picture 333 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: was truly worth a thousand words. And after going back 334 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: to film school and kind of you know, starting from 335 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: the ground up again, I ended up working with Lee 336 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Daniels and was his producing partner for ten years. Wow. 337 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: And so let me ask you this now, the Apollo 338 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: now my background. Just let everybody know, I'm a former 339 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: stand up comic. UM at a comedy club in Houston, 340 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: Texas call the Hip Hop Comedy Stop. I used to 341 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Finnel talent to the Amateur Nite. One of the famous 342 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: features of the Apollo is Amateur Nite, and they would 343 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: take the show and they'd be a part of the show. 344 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: They would come down the screen talent. So I just 345 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: say that at least is that I'm excited to interview 346 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: you because I feel like I'm a part of the 347 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: history that you're talking about on this show. Because it 348 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: expands eighty five years. That's a lot to talk about 349 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: in a documentary. Oh yeah, And but the thing about 350 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: what our director, Roger Ross Williams has done is he's 351 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: made those eighty five years not only go by so quickly, 352 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: but to evoke memories that we all have. Everybody's got 353 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: a connection to the Apollo if you've been there, if 354 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you've watched Showtime, if you have listened to great artists 355 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: who were given their start there. And so the history 356 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: goes by so quickly, but we also talk about temporary 357 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: stories of what is happening at the Apollo. So this 358 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: documentary is not a museum piece. It is very much alive. 359 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: When you say that let's let's talk about let's share 360 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more detail about the directions, vision and 361 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: telling this story, because you're saying that, see what I 362 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: because I would have an approach. I would do Apollo 363 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: about all the all the great hosts that were there 364 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: with show Time at devolvable WHOOPI Goldberg with hols Vealis 365 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: when I was moved to New York and eight Rickevilius 366 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: was the host at the time for show time at 367 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: the Apollo that Mark Lauren sin Bad and then when 368 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: sin Bad left and Steve Harvey took over and Monique 369 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: took over, Kid read at the Anderson through that whole 370 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: constant was my girl, Kiki Shepherd. She was always out there. 371 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: She was the original I like to call it Vanna White. 372 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Before Vanna White was always Kiki Shepherd. That's a part 373 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: of the story, but you're not delving so much in 374 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: that part of the story. You're telling how the process 375 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: worked at the Apollo and the interviewing people involved. Well, 376 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: we tell the history of the Apollo as a very 377 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: important place for the souls of black folks. It was 378 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: a place that you know, at the top of the circuit, 379 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: that welcomed us as performers when other venues did not. 380 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: It was the place, uh, you know, where dreams are born. 381 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: And so the documentary is about great moments like Billie 382 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: Holiday performing Strange Fruit there. It is a story. It's 383 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the stories of Patti LaBelle talking about what it was 384 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: to be a black woman on the road in the 385 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: segregated America and what it meant to arrive at the 386 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Apollo and what she and the Bluebells learned there. So 387 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: it is great moments in the Apollo history, but it's 388 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: also the it's political. It is the intersection of how 389 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: we as black folks use our art to take to 390 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: lift ourselves out of oppression. But also our art is 391 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: coded with information on zillions and survival and so the 392 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: documentary is you know, it's clips of performers. It is 393 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about amateur Night, we interviewed 394 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Miss Eva and I think you remember Miss Eva was 395 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: a lady who said in the front row house, up 396 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: on everybody, you know. And we talked to you know, 397 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Billy Mitchell, the resident historian, and Joe Gray, you know, 398 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: the head of stage who's also the set it off man. 399 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: We you know, we're looking at the people who work 400 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: at the Apollo because they're as important to the story 401 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: as the artists who have graced the stage. In addition 402 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: to political politicians like you know, uh, Charles Rangel, who 403 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: you know went there as a young man, so uh 404 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: and Paul McCartney, who said, you know, coming to America, 405 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: that's the first place the Beatles wanted to go right. 406 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, the Apollo is the crossroads. We know. It's 407 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: really interesting when I because you know, I've walked in Apollo. 408 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, is bigger than life, because 409 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: if you walk into you go, okay, that's how big 410 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: it really is. But that doesn't mean that. But the 411 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: process of getting on that stage it's really interesting. You 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: you have the you have the audience. But when you 413 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: walk on that stage and you look at the audience, 414 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: it's almost overwhelming because there's so much history that comes. 415 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I was seen it's own stage there. You know the 416 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: thing you know, you know, uh, James Brown recorded a 417 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: live album at the Apollo that became one of his 418 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: biggest sellers. And now the one of the parts of 419 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: the Apollo that stood out the most was Amateur Night. 420 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: And I reason to say that is that how important 421 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: was amateur Night to the history of the Apollo venue. 422 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Amateur Night is so important in four the theater opens 423 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: n Ella Fitzgerald is an amateur night that that just 424 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: goes to show you the soope of and depths of 425 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: the talent that was given an opportunity there. Amateur Night 426 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: is also interesting because the first time you know, Lauren 427 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Hell performed as a young girl. She was booed off 428 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: the stage. What is unique about the Apollo is that 429 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: the audience is in on it. The audience and the 430 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: performer have a unique conversation because the Apollo is church, 431 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and so there's very few places that you entertainment venues 432 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: that you're going to have the kind of call and 433 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: response between the performer and the audience in the way 434 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: that you do with the Apollo. Well, you know, it's 435 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: really important that you say that. Let me read something 436 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: about the Apollo has served as a launch path for 437 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: such legendary talents like you mentioned Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin, 438 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, Ella fhis Gerald, the Supreme, Stevie Wonder, 439 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: Jimmie Hendrix, Smokey Robinson, Ray Charles, Patty Lebert, who's been 440 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: interviewed in the documentary Showcase, comedians such as Red Fox, Dick, 441 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Gregory Dick Gregory, Richard pryor the great incredible Mars Maylie. 442 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I hope somebody does a movie on her One Day Moms, 443 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: mainly incredible actor Jamie Fox, and you interviewed Jamie Fox 444 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: in the documentary Talk to us about that. We also 445 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: have clips from Mom's made and did Gregory and Richard 446 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: Pryor and Chris rock Um. You know that speak to 447 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the unique connection that comedians had with the theater, but 448 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: also what it is how we use comedy um in 449 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: a very unique way. Now, the interesting thing about it, 450 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: are you able to talk about the origin of the buoy? Yes, 451 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: we we talked because they're not. That's right there, miss Evil. 452 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: It was, it was awesome, but the booing is what 453 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: the what? What was separated uh the talent from the 454 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: wanna be talent? That what? That's what You walked on 455 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: stage with this with this fear that you can be 456 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: rejected massively by room full of people, which can crush 457 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: some people. Are just make them determined to come back 458 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: and show these people that I'm better than what you think. 459 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: That I stuck to talk to us about the origin 460 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: of the boot, well, you know, I mean we the 461 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: power of the boot is we spent some time with 462 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: and I want to talk too much because I want 463 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: people to see the absolutely labsolute, the absolute labsolute, But 464 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: we definitely get into the power of the boot and 465 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: the place that it has played with artists. Even Jamie 466 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: Fox talks about you know, his experience there, my friend. 467 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: First of all, you know you have love on this show, 468 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: an exciting talent. You're very creative with your music background, 469 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: and now you're in the film. You can only keep 470 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: winning again. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation. 471 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Thank you Lisa Cortess. Thank you. Guess why crime breaks 472 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: spike on Halloween? 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She's the founder of the Wealth Factory. 496 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: At the Wealth Factory, their mission is to reduce poverty 497 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: by by providing equal access to quality, easy to understand 498 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: financial literacy across the world. Please working to money Making Conversations. 499 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: Angel rich Oy, Hey, hey, thanks for having me today. Well, well, 500 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: thank you for getting on the call of day. And 501 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: first of all, we're yet in this early daytime hour. Yes, 502 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm in the beautiful capital of Washington, d C. My 503 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: home city where on fourth generation. So always happy to 504 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: be back into the city. Back from New York last night. Okay, good, 505 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: So what's this? What's a typical day? Because I wanted 506 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: want of the people to understand who you are. We're 507 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna go through the story of two breaks and uh, 508 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: you know fast needed by My degree is in mathematics, 509 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: so you know you, you know, what you're doing is 510 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: way beyond what I'm doing now because I got into scriptwriting, 511 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: I got in the sitcom, I got into producing town, 512 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: so I left all my algorithm life behind other than 513 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: just counting money. Okay, and you stayed in that lane 514 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: and you and you blossomed in that lane. So explain 515 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: to everybody what exactly you do. Yes. So, our company, 516 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Wealthy Life designs financial literacy education technology games. We walk 517 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: people from birth to retirement through twelve interactive modules to 518 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: exceed the personal finance common Core standards. We also use 519 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: these games to be able to collect and disseminate financial information. 520 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: The first game that we have is called Credit Stators. 521 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: It's similar to Candy Crush, except for swapping around candy 522 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: around credit pay yall your debt and sieve a hot 523 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: cost score and learn from the multiple choice question. Now 524 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: that's now what what with that being said? Because you 525 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: named a very popular game, and like you said, what 526 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: is the what is the reaction to You're trying to 527 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: educate because it's education right that you're trying to push here. 528 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Let people know how to control their money, how to 529 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: grow their money, how to stay I guess I want 530 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: to say financially stable. Correct. Yeah, So it's been doing 531 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: very well. We were able to scale to over two 532 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: hundred thousand downloads during our first ten days. We now 533 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: have over four hundred thousand downloads. It's the number one 534 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: education app is fourteen countries, it's top five and forty countries, 535 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: and it's been named the best financial literacy products in 536 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the country by the White House Department of Education, Gay Mortgage, 537 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: TASE and we're happy to be a member of the 538 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Top fifty Apps department as well with Google if they 539 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: have identified it as one of the top after the 540 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: world for the past three years. Now that now, that's 541 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: all amazing. Now Here a lot of people get on 542 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: more show a boy dropping apps, trying to get apps 543 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: out there, trying to get in from me. How does 544 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: one or through relationships or your reputation, how does one 545 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: drop an app get the do you promoted through social media? 546 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Angel? Well, you know, honestly, we 547 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: didn't have any of that. I was you know, I'm 548 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: still a regular person. But at the time, no, you know, 549 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I know, you know you don't stop that regular person 550 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: angel a angel You're not a regular person. No you're not. 551 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: See what you're not gonna do is come on money 552 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: made conversation and act like I talk a regular people, 553 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: No special I was a regular person. I'm dropping And 554 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: I sat back in my UM in my office and 555 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: as myself, how was we going to be able to 556 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: scale this without any funding? And so you know, I 557 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: kind of put the mathematical statistician head on. Okay, we 558 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: decimed an algorithm. UM, so we reverse engineer Facebook, Instagram, 559 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: and Google, and we came up with our own algorithm 560 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: for user acquisition of the ads, and we did something 561 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: in UM historic and groundbreaking. So our algorithm actually now 562 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: outperforms Googles by seven point five times and Facebook by 563 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: twelve points five times. There's no systems that can advertise 564 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: to me, that can attract users better than what we're 565 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: already doing. And we actually had Google call and tell 566 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: us this and confirmed this. We we knew we were 567 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: doing something amazing, but when Google called and told us 568 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: that they've never seen anything like it, UM, we really 569 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: knew we were owning something. So we've actually kind of 570 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: flashed that out into an algorithm on its own that 571 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: we call rich CPI, and we're working with other companies 572 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: to now help them be able to scale their products. 573 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: Now you need to be working with MCN. But now 574 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: how does man come get in the angel? Rich? Is 575 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: this stuff very serious? Because I was sitting with my 576 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: staff this morning talking about algorithms. There are special people 577 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: that that's what they do because they understand this new 578 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: form of marketing, this new form of branding, this new 579 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: form of being able to target the audience that you're 580 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: that you're communicating with. How does an individual are I 581 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: guess like I guess, you couldn't say, I'm an individual 582 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: on a company will be able to take my brand 583 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: and walking into the front door to sit down and 584 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: have a meeting with you or your team? How does 585 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: that work? Yes? So you would email us at info 586 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: at get welcome right there down y'all right there down there, 587 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: write that down there, and I'm gonna say if info 588 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: at UM to this info at get welcome life dot com, okay, 589 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: and um, it's very important to email us. A lot 590 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: of people try to DM linked in, Facebook, message, text me, 591 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: all different types of things, but I really only take 592 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: you seriously if you email me, okay, and so um 593 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: with them is a great way to to to me. 594 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, I see your LinkedIn and I'll sew your LinkedIn, 595 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: what your LinkedIn and read about you there too. I'm 596 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn too, by the way. Yeah, so that that 597 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: is a great way to get to me. But the 598 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: most sufficient way of getting to the entire team and 599 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: everyone it's info at get walson life dot com. Now, 600 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: when that happens, someone's gonna contact me back and we're 601 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: gonna set up a meeting with a team member or 602 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: be elevated to talk to just you. How does this work? Yes, 603 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: so it depends on the size of of your of 604 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: your deal um is right now, we definitely are trying 605 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to look for higher level clients. It's it's a T 606 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: and T L Johnson and Jonathan Falls. Obviously, I'm going 607 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: to get on the phoney rash Yeah, I love talking 608 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: to a go I'm gonna just tell you what you 609 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: what you had with my time Rashan Johnson and called 610 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: no Rashan McDonald coole, Uh, put him on hold, tell 611 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: him I love him, But we'll be right back with Okay, 612 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: with a T N T. Come on, let's talk now, 613 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: because that's really that's really what it's all about. But 614 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: but because you've discovered something, and I don't want to 615 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to blow past this whole concept of 616 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: of what you guys created, you know, with this algorithm, 617 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it was a team of you or 618 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: what's you and a friend or how did that whole 619 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: concept come about? Because when I when I sit down 620 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: and I and I and I think about those things, 621 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: because with my mathematic background, there's a certain logic that 622 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: comes to comes to about the way I think, how 623 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: does one go about what your team or or you 624 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: felt it. There's no different than Steve Jobs sitting down 625 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: or Bill Gates and down. There's are visionary people. I 626 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: have to say, you're a visionary person because you come 627 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: up with something that even Google has called about. So 628 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: how does that start? Angel? Okay, So I'll answer that 629 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: question in reverse. Um, do you have three pieces of 630 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: intellectual property sort of wrapped into the game? Okay? Um? 631 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: The first piece is the user acquisition algorithms? Rich speaks, Um, 632 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: I did that solely by myself and I've never showed 633 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: it to a never so even my co founder has 634 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: never seen it. McDonald's secret sauce, right exactly, it's like 635 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: the Coca Cola recipe. That's that's it, unless somebody want 636 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: to come along and buy Coca cola. Right now, you're 637 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: not seeing the algorithm, girl, exactly. Uh, we have an 638 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: algorithm that actually helps people to systematically pay off their 639 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: debt and raise their credit score. Um, we're going to 640 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: release that in the next version of the game where 641 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna be rounding up people change to pay off 642 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: their debt. Uh, that that that's on their credit report 643 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: and systematically increase their credit score. Now, that's that's something 644 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: that's coming out now, right, Yeah, that's something that's coming 645 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: out next. And then third, Well but let's let's stop 646 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: right there. Let's stop right there. Dot. It's about this 647 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: this credit score, because that's really big because I wanted 648 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: to get to the other thing because that credit scores 649 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: was stopped so many people for some reason. Like even 650 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: when I came out of high school many years ago, 651 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: I always knew I needed to maintain my credit. They 652 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: weren't even talking about scores back then. It was just 653 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: like I gotta have good credit, build your credit, get 654 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: one credit card, then you go. Sears was like better 655 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: than American Express when I was young, and then you 656 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: do you know something I had. Montgomery Awards were just 657 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: closed now, so I was just building my credit with 658 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: the got my Sears, Then I got my Montgomery Roar card, 659 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: and then got my j C Penning card. Then I 660 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: got my first Shell gas call, got my Shell gas card. 661 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: You know that that was hard calls to get back 662 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: in the day. You know, we're just the future of 663 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: finance because we were joking around about different things, and 664 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: can you expound on that before we wrap everything up? Well, 665 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: first of all, you know a theory that I've been 666 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: toying with and I started to write a paper on 667 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: this last night. I think we need to stop calling 668 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: it the future of farming called the present day of money, 669 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: because I think with us to keep referring to the 670 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: future of farmance, people keep waiting for something to happen 671 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: in the future, and they're not thinking about the present 672 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: day economy and the present day innovations that are happening 673 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: right now before them. In terms of mobile banking investment options, 674 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: you got lobbinhood, You've got acorns, you've got different life 675 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: insurance policies, You've got highest daily of annuity policies out here. 676 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: So there's so many things that's happening white now right now, 677 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: and the receptive is coming in the next two years. 678 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: So I would hate for people to keep thinking about 679 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: the future of farmance and then mext thing. You know, 680 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: they've they've they've held on to the eight hundred credit 681 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: scores and they haven't purchased the different properties that they 682 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: needed to or they had to accept their forum on 683 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: k up um officially to be prepared for this recession 684 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: that's about to hit. So I really think that almost 685 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what, what was the show 686 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: called um the Futuristics show with the robot and um 687 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: ah Jetsons. So back you were older than me. I 688 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: can't believe you. I guess I'm throwing out Montgomery wounds 689 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: and see you're just gonna go back to Jetsons now. 690 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: You know you need to stop age. I'm so tired 691 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: of you. You know, back in the day that cartoon 692 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the future of technology in the world. 693 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Everything that existed in the Jetsons is here. All this 694 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: stuff about the future of fans is here, So I 695 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: think that we need to pause and actually recognize that. Um. 696 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: But yes, I believe that. I believe the future is 697 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: here where things are going. I think they're preparing us 698 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: not to get too deep, but I think they're preparing 699 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: us for another recession the same way the last recession happened. 700 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, more housing became available, credit became available, 701 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: interest rates were stable. All the same, the same temperature 702 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: of the market, the same pH balance of the economic 703 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: climates is the same. That's happening, white Mail. So I 704 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: would say that there's a recession coming in the next 705 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: two years and we need to be prepared for it. 706 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. You know, different ways I 707 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: approach money is you know, finding fixed rates and insurance policies, 708 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: different ways you can protect yourself. And but like I 709 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: said again, you know when you listen to somebody talking 710 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: about finance, you have to be careful you talk because 711 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: people hold you accountable, saying you, well, you recommended on 712 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: your show with show and that's why I'm vested in this, 713 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: or they take their advice and manipulate it. But more importantly, 714 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: how can individuals reach out to your company I know 715 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: we's uh for advice for for for business consulting. Please 716 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: tell us right down, Angel. Yeah. So, first of all, 717 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: you can email us at info at get Walpi life 718 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: dot com. We can help directly with your financial situation 719 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: as well as for your company or school meets. UM. 720 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: We really kind of see ourselves as consultant as helping 721 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: with financial literacy on the individual or enterprise level. UM. 722 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: We can also do it with your data analytics as well, 723 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: because as we mentioned, we have to use the acquisition algorithms, 724 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: so we're trying to help you save and make money 725 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: at the Wealth Factory. UM. Additionally, we have a book 726 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: called History of the Block Dollars if you want to 727 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: kind of dive into the history of money, UM a 728 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: little bit further. Uh, that's something that you can check 729 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: out on Amazon dot com. And then UM and about 730 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: another month or so, we're gonna actually finally release the 731 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Wealthy Lives textbook we haven't drafted, and we're going to 732 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: begin disseminating that out for individual purchase as well as 733 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: schools for ars. 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I 765 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: fought entertainment for a long time because I didn't realize 766 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: that entertainment was a form of entrepreneurship, especially with social 767 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: media social media, these individuals are really small businesses. If 768 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: you have a social media platform, then you all be 769 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: recognized as a person who's delivering the goods via social media. 770 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: And so my next guest, she's right here, she's actually 771 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, doing social media on me right now, 772 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about my first questions about social media. 773 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: Is recognized as a twin in a Blossom Award recipient 774 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: through the White Dress Project, a ten Ambassador of Change 775 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: and Health and Wellness, eighteen boss Woman of the Year, 776 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: Atlanta's Top one hundred Women in Business, and haven't received 777 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: the White House Drum Major Service Award under President Barack Obama. 778 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: She's a woman on the mission to change your life 779 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: and the world around her. Her book Breakthrough sold separately Debated, 780 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: number one and Amazon. Please welcome to money Making Conversation. 781 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: Could call him my daughter, could call him my lamente, 782 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: can call a lot of great things and it's all positive. 783 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: Please welco on the show. Brandy Harvey, thank you so 784 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: much for having me. It feels surreal. Yeah, it feels 785 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: a bit surreal to be here with you. Like absolutely 786 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: so many years, so many years. You've known me since 787 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, absolutely going to college Hampton Hampton, then 788 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State pledging Delta, the leading black black student union campaign. 789 00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: She's always this person I gotta change lives. Absolutely now. 790 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: So you're up here, you know social media just to 791 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: a funished door by her and a twin sisters in 792 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: the early State about two thousand and seven. They was 793 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: they were struggling socially now, you know, And and I 794 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: told him I say, look, uh, I give you, I 795 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: give you five dollars. Think of that five thousand. If 796 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: y'all could just get the five thousand followers five thousand 797 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: and gave us a book, gave us this yellow social 798 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: media one hundred ways or something to up your social 799 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: media game or something like that. And we failed miserably. 800 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean they actually walked away from it, actually stopped 801 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: talking to me. You know, they didn't dried a little bit. 802 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, try, we failed. We failed miserably. It was 803 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: not our calling. Then now, what is your social media numbers? Now? 804 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: My friends, so uh on beyond her, I met over 805 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: twenty thousand followers from my Active Wellness brand and then 806 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: from my personal I am Brandy Harvey on Instagram. I 807 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: have over a hundred thirty thousand Instagram followers. Yeah, hundred 808 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: and thirty eight thousand Instagram followers. Yeah. Okay, that's called 809 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: brand growth. That is definitely brand growth. Because I remember 810 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: when I had one from a person who stopped talking 811 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: to me about the social media. You know, you put 812 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: so much pressure on us in the office. I remember it. 813 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: It was Carly and I it was it was some 814 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 1: other people for Trees. She put a lot of pressure 815 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: on us during that time for social Actually it was. 816 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 1: It was great because I didn't really believe incial the town. 817 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: I launched it for your dad, and I remember you 818 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: ran his social campaign. Got it up to this really 819 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: is not It's not me. I don't want to do that, 820 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: and that's what this book is about. This. The book 821 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,479 Speaker 1: is about you can do a lot of things good, 822 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean that's a long term that's 823 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna make you happy. I'm going to fulfill your dreams 824 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: and more importantly than it may not be your calling, 825 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: tell us why you wrote the book, because that was wanted. 826 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: The main takeaway to that guy from the book, You 827 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: know why I wrote this book is because I wanted 828 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: to You know, I'm a teacher at my heart and 829 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: my core, and I wanted to teach other women how 830 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: to break free in their lives, to have their own breakthrough, 831 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: to jump over the hurdle of being unstuck, of staying 832 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: with the victims story that's kept you stuck for so long. 833 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to help women break free from the food bondage, 834 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, because so many of us are stuck eating 835 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: and drinking ourselves into like a coma. Every single day 836 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: trying to suppress the emotions and so and then spiritually, 837 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,479 Speaker 1: I think so many black women in particular have been 838 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, um, really hurt by the church, been hurt 839 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,479 Speaker 1: by religion. And so I wanted to have this book 840 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: offer up a piece for you to find that inner 841 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: spirit because when you find that inner wheel, you know it, 842 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: you can move forward in your life. Now, when you 843 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: stay moved forward in your life? What that me because 844 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: it means a lot to a lot of different people. 845 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to find the words that you're trying 846 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: to emote from your book. You know. When I when 847 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: I sat down to write the book, you know, I 848 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: started the book because I was fired. And I opened 849 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: the book telling the story of being fired from my 850 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: dad's UM foundation. And so now most people are like 851 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: blown away, like how do you get fired from your dad? 852 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: And I was fired, and I knew that I was 853 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: not living up to my highest calling and potential. I 854 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: knew that there was so much more that I wanted 855 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: to do with my life and be of service to 856 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: other people. Um. And I think that was a moment 857 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: for me that I had to get unstuck and move forward. 858 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: Because some let me talk about let me because I 859 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: was there for this, and we had many conversations in 860 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: my office lunchtime because you you were really conflicted about, 861 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, divinity going in that direction, going to theology school. Yeah, 862 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 1: we had and I was looking at really really because 863 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: I hear this conversation and then and then also the 864 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: whole aspect of the prospect of running the foundation. You know, 865 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: we did the camps and downsidually to Atlanta. Those are 866 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: things you were just good at. That's how I just 867 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: talking about. You were just talented. It was a passion 868 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: that you believed in, but that wasn't your passion and 869 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: so and so I always felt that any advice I 870 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: gave you really would have been confusing because of the 871 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: fact that even though you you spoke these words all 872 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: you're very articulate, you're very prominent in your tone, that 873 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's what you wanted to do. And so 874 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: so when I when I hear the fact that you know, 875 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: you were terminated as the executive director of the foundation, 876 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't shockmate, because we had these conversations and so 877 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: all along. At certain times I was saying, people get 878 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: fired or just waiting for you to do their do 879 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: your job. It's all you're doing, just waiting. But what 880 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: we don't want to do is get here the Yeah, 881 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to hear the work. But 882 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: way back when you knew what was coming, and all 883 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: the signs were there, all the signs, this is not 884 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: worth frustration and complaining, motivation and begredguingly doing your work. 885 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: You're planning other things during those people's times. You know, 886 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: you're using those people's cubicles and computers. Absolutely, and that's 887 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: that's why. That's why I thought that whole portion of 888 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: the idea of you opening the book talking about determination 889 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: part and there were some personal things that you talk about. 890 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: But believe it, that's happening every day in America. People 891 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: are going to work. Yeah, um, what you're doing over there? 892 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh long breaks uha, tying up other employees time with 893 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: conversation that means nothing to be the company fold and 894 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 1: then you they are going, I want to I want 895 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: to confront the issue. That's why I loved about you. Here. 896 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: You are in the wrong, you know all the time 897 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: in the but you're confronting issue. You tell me why 898 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm firing, Well you kind of know, but yeah, and 899 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 1: that's that's so. I so I found a humorous because 900 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: I know people do this all the time, but not 901 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: like you. But it's not like you. You want to 902 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: hear the words come out. Yeah, And I think that's 903 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: what so many of us do. We don't understand that 904 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: we've we've had the moment of closure, right, but we 905 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: need to know. I need to hear it, and you know, 906 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: give me what I'm looking for. Know the closures already happened. 907 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: And so many times we miss out on the things 908 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: that we're supposed to do with our lives because we're 909 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: waiting for someone to give us an answer to the why, 910 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, when we should just move on. But here's 911 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: the funny part about it. When you eventually get the why, 912 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: there's more conversation. It's among the conversation. And so so 913 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: that's why I was fascinating and I found your book 914 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: I feel is a must read. And I think it's 915 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: a must read because I did not see another version. 916 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: Because I feel that when you do all is interviews 917 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: like interviews with me, you see how expansive it is 918 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 1: as far as in the corporate world, in the small 919 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: business world, because we're dealing with employees and we're dealing 920 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: with poor decisions as we make as owners, as supervisors, 921 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: as management because of the fact that what you did 922 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: personally is what every employee is doing in America. They 923 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: in denial about them being the real problem, in fact 924 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: is you could have resolved everybody's problem if you just 925 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: say I resigned. Absolutely, I didn't want to do that, 926 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 1: and don't We want to hold onto things when they're 927 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: no longer serving us, they no longer fit us, they 928 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: no longer are part of our space, but we want 929 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: to hold onto them because we are afraid. We're afraid 930 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: to get out of the boat of mediocrity and walk 931 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: on water. Okay, So how did the title come about? 932 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: And I love the walcome waterpart because the reason I 933 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: like that because it feels impossible. Yeah, you know, and 934 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: that's part you know, from from the Bible. Yeah, it 935 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: was definitely a spiritual undertone to it. Um. I came 936 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: up with it. You know, I actually did this message 937 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: UM back at a retreat in Arizona. I was speaking 938 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: at a wellness retreat and I was trying to, you know, 939 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: come like with what the message was going to be 940 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: because I was a closing keynote and it really just 941 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: I was headlining. I am I come from a line 942 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: of headliners, you know, and so I was I was 943 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I was going to talk about, 944 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: and it was so many things physically that we happened 945 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: to me during that time. But I remember just coming 946 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 1: out of meditation and I was quiet, and I started 947 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: thinking about like batteries being sold separately, right like when 948 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: you the words Christmas would be like for parents when 949 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: you you buy the gift and then there's no batteries included, 950 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: and so the toys just sitting there. But then I 951 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: started thinking about like how people come to retreats and conferences, 952 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: and they come to retreats and conferences and they think 953 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: that the breakthrough is going to be included. That I paid, 954 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: I pay for the ticket, I pay to get here, 955 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 1: and now that you're supposed to give me the breakthrough, 956 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: the breakthrough supposed to happen. But that's so separate, that's 957 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: not included. And so in order to get the breakthrough 958 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: in your life, you're going to have to test your faith. 959 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: Brandy Harvey, I will believe me. 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