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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday. It typically you would be talking about

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Speaker 3: the Steelers playing on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: This week, we only have to wait a day for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers to play their next game. They play, of course,

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts at four thirty pm on Saturday in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: It's your big, great game.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a playoff type atmosphere and really all

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Speaker 2: three games on Saturday have some playoff implications.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a good slate, I mean, especially for

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Speaker 4: the the AFC before the four of the six teams

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Speaker 4: are what seven and six and all fighting for the

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Speaker 4: same prize obviously, so a lot will be determined by

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Speaker 4: Saturday night. Which is fun, Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 2: And you know this, you get an opportunity to to

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Speaker 2: see again the seven and six Bengals hosting the seven

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Speaker 2: and six Vikings. Of course, the Bengals one of those

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Speaker 2: teams in the AFC playoff unt of course, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and Colts play at four point thirty, and then at

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Speaker 2: night that you had Denver heading to Detroit at seven

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Speaker 2: and six. So again four of those seven and six,

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Speaker 2: the six seven and six teams in the AFC all

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Speaker 2: in action on Saturday, so you know, we we you

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Speaker 2: can either get a leg up or you could fall

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Speaker 2: back before we head into Sunday's game, so you know.

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Speaker 4: Hoping the Steelers win. Of course, he's still have some

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Speaker 4: rooting interest before and after, just keep rooting against AFC teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about this is that the other two

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Speaker 2: seven and six teams from the AFC that play on

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Speaker 2: Saturday are playing NFC teams.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers Colts game is much more.

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Speaker 4: Important absolutely to both teams. As more ramifications. From what

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Speaker 4: I've seen, it's the most the most weighted playoff, most

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Speaker 4: important game for the playoffs in the league this week.

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Speaker 3: And that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes a ton of sense because if you

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Speaker 2: if you start looking at you know what these teams

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Speaker 2: have have done thus far. Uh you know, A, it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a conference game. But b if if the

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Speaker 2: Steelers win this right now, the Culture are in the

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Speaker 2: seventh spot, the Steelers are in the sixth so there's

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Speaker 2: a pretty good chance that the loser of this game

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Speaker 2: falls out of the playoff standings, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean in terms of if playoffs were today type

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Speaker 2: Not right, right, right, right, not overall, but because right

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Speaker 2: now the Steelers and Culture are in those spots because

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Speaker 2: they both have five and four conference records. Yes, all

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Speaker 2: the other teams Houston's Houston's four and four in the conference,

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Speaker 2: Denver's four and five in the conference. Cincinnati is three

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Speaker 2: and six in the conference, and Buffalo is four and

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Speaker 2: five in the conference. Cincinnati ahead of Buffalo because and

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Speaker 2: there's interestingly enough, Cincinnati beat.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo head to head. I believe Denver did too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Buffalo has some bad losses obviously, I kind

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Speaker 4: of feel like they have to run the table. But

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Speaker 4: it's possible, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, if you get a win here now

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Speaker 2: you're six and four in the conference. You only play

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Speaker 2: eleven conference games, so eleven four and five now you

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Speaker 2: play twelve. Yeah, so if you get the win this week,

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Speaker 2: you'd be six and four in the conference with the

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Speaker 2: chance against Cincinnati next week to go to seven and

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Speaker 2: four in the conference. You win seven conference games, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna win most of the tie breakers looking at what

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Speaker 2: some of these other teams have done, because you know

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Speaker 2: it's they can't they can't lose again.

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Speaker 4: Basically for some of those other teams, No, you nailed it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as bad as the last two weeks have been,

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Speaker 4: lot of power in how your season ends up. Even

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Speaker 4: though that the rest of the conference is so competitive,

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Speaker 4: So in a way, you're kind of fortunate for the team.

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Speaker 2: And the beauty of it is for the Steelers this year,

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Speaker 2: if they win this game and they beat even if

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Speaker 2: they don't beat Cincinnati, but that you'd like to beat Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: they would have the tie breakers over both of those teams.

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Speaker 2: The only team currently in the AFC wildcard mix right

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Speaker 2: now that has the tiebreaker over the Steelers is Houston.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, I hadn't thought of it from that angle,

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Speaker 4: but that adds up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's Indianapolis, it's Houston, it's Denver. You didn't

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Speaker 2: you have to do is finished with a better conference record.

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Speaker 2: And look at Denver's four and five in the conference,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's four and five in the conference you're gonna get,

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Speaker 2: you're probably gonna have the tiebreaker over those teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you're definitely rooting against Houston in Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: which doesn't look like a layup game for them at all,

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Speaker 4: right now with that Stroud, Yeah, Tennessee has played a

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Speaker 4: pretty decent game, and Levis was all right, and in

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Speaker 4: Tennessee they're not laying down for anybody, unlike the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: The Uh oh boy. Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 4: There for a minute, because it like offends me to

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Speaker 4: be honest with you. I mean, I just I don't

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Speaker 4: know that I've seen a worse effort. I mean just

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Speaker 4: not even caring, not getting off blocks, not chasing the ball,

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Speaker 4: fumble after fumble, and I mean just it was like

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Speaker 4: they played to get their coach fired. Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you look at we went through

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Speaker 2: the yesterday, we went went through all the jobs that

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Speaker 2: could be open, and that Chargers job could be opened

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Speaker 2: by Monday if it's not open later today. Uh, they're

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Speaker 2: wins this year come against teams that have a three

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Speaker 2: to ninety four winning percentage.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they're a good football team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they are. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: they have some good players. I think when.

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Speaker 3: Every team in the league has good players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they all just decided we're done. I mean again,

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Speaker 4: effort and pride just weren't there. I mean, I was

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Speaker 4: embarrassed as a fan. I was offended as a fan, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like, let's go there for a second. So the

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Speaker 2: last the previous two weeks of Steelers, we know what happened.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers lost to the Cardinals and they lost to

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Speaker 2: invariably when a team loses a game like that, oh

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Speaker 2: that was you know, it was just a poor effort.

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Speaker 3: They didn't give any effort. Folks.

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Speaker 2: If you don't give effort in the NFL Thursday night

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Speaker 2: is what it looks like. If you're not giving effort,

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Speaker 2: you will get crushed. And it doesn't matter who you're playing.

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Speaker 4: Along those lines, I don't think the Raiders are good,

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Speaker 4: and I can't bet against them next week because people

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Speaker 4: they were the worst offense in the league leading into that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, but that's what happens when you when

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Speaker 4: Consistently though exactly. That's that's kind of backing up your point,

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Speaker 4: like it doesn't matter what NFL team it is. If

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Speaker 4: you just throw your hat out there and go through

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Speaker 4: the motions, it looks like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to get destroyed because every team

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Speaker 3: in the league has talent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, and they're all playing for big paychecks and

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Speaker 4: their families, you know, feed their family, and I mean,

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Speaker 4: even if it's not their best day, they will demolish

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Speaker 4: you mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the guy Antonio Peers is coaching for his job.

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Speaker 2: He's and if not this job, a job somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: And so he's done enough this year that if the

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Speaker 2: interviews somewhere else to be a head coach.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he'll be on some staff no matter what

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Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, I mean, and not only him, but

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Speaker 4: going to be around here next year. It might not

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Speaker 4: be me. I better put my best effort forward too.

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Speaker 4: But the same should have been true for the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: I mean should have been Yeah, I should have been.

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Speaker 4: I know, not every single human being is to blame,

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Speaker 4: but I would have a hard time adding anyone from

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Speaker 4: I don't want any of this.

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Speaker 3: They're going to finish last in that division.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's just crazy. I mean rarely

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Speaker 4: am I offended or I even wrote on Twitter, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I've never turned an NFL game off. Never, and I

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Speaker 4: the end of this because I feel like one team

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Speaker 4: doesn't care. I never feel that.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's amazing to me. And and uh, you

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Speaker 2: know for a team that had I mean, there were

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Speaker 2: team right.

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Speaker 4: Right, and we seem like we do that every off season.

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Speaker 4: Oh this is their year, you know. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Are they turning into the the new Browns for lack

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've talked about this to no end, but

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Speaker 4: their roster is going to be worse next year than

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Speaker 4: it is this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe their coaching staff's better, Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the culture gets changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that when when you talk about culture

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Speaker 2: and that's been a big subject this week in Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers are what a losing culture looks like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone hanging their hat, nobody caring.

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Speaker 3: Guys going through to motions, yeahright.

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Speaker 4: Sticking on blocks, you know, just not work, not valuing

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Speaker 4: the football, you know, time and time again. Like I

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Speaker 4: even wrote that Easton Stick might have been their best player.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't. You can understand it, like if man our

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Speaker 4: quarterback shot we don't have a quarterback. It's horrible, you know, Like.

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Speaker 2: But they're playing, they're playing a team this play and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they made him look like a pro

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Speaker 4: bowler and he couldn't made to score a point the

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Speaker 2: The Raiders, Yeah, it was bad. And they're playing and

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Speaker 2: the Raiders were playing without Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 4: Right, and they weren't loaded with all.

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Speaker 3: They were playing with without a bunch of their guys,

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Speaker 3: and you made it look like it was it was Alabama,

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Speaker 4: Southern exactly exactly. I mean rarely do I get that

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Speaker 4: upset about a game or you know, and it's not

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Speaker 4: because my favorite team lost or any of those things.

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Speaker 4: It's just that was an offensive product like, if I

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Speaker 4: was Roger Goodell, I might call the owner of the

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Speaker 4: Chargers up and be like, that's not okay man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if he can do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like calling up one of your bosses

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Speaker 3: and saying, hey, you got you gotta try harder, because

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Speaker 3: Roger does work for the owners. But I mean I

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Speaker 4: Man? That's I mean, that's a bad product to put

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, no matter what I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, maybe the Niners are the only one really

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Speaker 3: That's what you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you hear people talking about the Steelers, and

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Speaker 4: But just about Yeah. Yeah, it's just they have back

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Speaker 2: You know that Miami Dolphins team lost the game. They're

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Speaker 2: They were thirteen point favorites.

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Speaker 4: And probably, much like the Steelers, their stock right this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing with the Chiefs have lost too in

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Speaker 4: Like Holmes is yelling to people and losing his mind

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Speaker 3: You want to say. Yeah, yeah, plays play better. It's

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Speaker 2: If they play the way that they played the first

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll be in the hunting every one of these

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Speaker 4: Can beat the top seed. Yeah. No, I don't think there's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good chance that that game, whether whichever

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Speaker 3: That's just the history of the series.

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Speaker 2: out there. So, Steelers Colts, we've talked a lot about

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable to me. And it's not like the Colts

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they've had some good teams. That's Super

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the line on this game opened at Colts by

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Speaker 2: when they've won, they don't blow people out. No, they don't,

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Speaker 2: and their games are gone over. I know the Steeler

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean definitely some cult trends are they run

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Speaker 3: You know? Yeah? Is it crazy? Yeah? They just have it.

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Speaker 2: They've struggled in you know, in those given up a

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Speaker 4: success there obviously, and going to Indies not as daunting

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Speaker 4: for this team as you would think.

441
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Speaker 3: No, I think so completely. If you look at it,

442
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: the Colts have given They've.

443
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Speaker 2: Scored three hundred and fourteen points, which is obviously it's

444
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean, way more than the Steelers who have two ten.

445
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: But they've given up three hundred and thirty the Steelers.

446
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: They've given up eighty more points than the Steelers have.

447
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Speaker 3: Wow.

448
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is quite a bit.

449
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Speaker 3: It's one of the worst defenses in the league in

450
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Speaker 3: terms of scoring.

451
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Speaker 4: In terms of scoring, yeah, Like I did a.

452
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Speaker 2: Thing earlier in the week, Colts dot Com sent me,

453
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Speaker 2: you know, a list of questions that I asked or

454
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Speaker 2: they asked, you know, that I could so they could

455
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Speaker 2: put that on their their website. I don't know if

456
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Speaker 2: it's up yet or not, but one of the questions was, well,

457
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Speaker 2: how you know, how are the Steelers going to keep

458
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Speaker 2: up with with the Colts offense? And I'm like, well,

459
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Speaker 2: first of all, I don't expect. The Steelers have one

460
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Speaker 2: of the best scoring defenses in the league. They're giving

461
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Speaker 2: up eighteen point eight points per game.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

463
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Speaker 3: The bigger question is how are the Colts scoring because

464
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Speaker 3: five of their touchdowns have come on special teams or defense.

465
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, think about it.

466
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Speaker 2: So if you had a thirty five more points to

467
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Speaker 2: what the Steelers have scored this year, now they do.

468
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Speaker 3: The Steelers do have a couple, so you had three

469
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Speaker 3: more touchdown.

470
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Speaker 2: I think they have two less defensive touchdowns, So give

471
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Speaker 2: them twenty one more points.

472
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Speaker 3: The scoring doesn't look so bad, but you take those.

473
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Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the Cults are giving

474
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Speaker 2: up twenty five point four points per game, there's only

475
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Speaker 2: twenty teams worse.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot. I mean, obviously points allowed per

477
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Speaker 4: game between the Steelers and Colts is a massive discrepancy.

478
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Speaker 4: It's a full touchdown, a full touchdown. Yeah, So what

479
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Speaker 4: kind of game is this going to be? Is this

480
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Speaker 4: going to be a Colts game that's twenty three is

481
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Speaker 4: not enough to win it? Or is this Steeler game

482
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Speaker 4: where to race the twenty?

483
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Speaker 2: You know, I kind of you know, having watched every

484
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Speaker 2: Steeler game this year, I would expect it to be

485
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Speaker 2: something it's a race to twenty.

486
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Speaker 4: I'd lean that way too, because, I mean, a lot

487
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Speaker 4: of the Colts games have mentioned this before, have run

488
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: a lot of snaps, there's a faster pace, there's a

489
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Speaker 4: lot of plays played in the game. I don't think

490
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Speaker 4: the Steelers are going to play that way. I mean,

491
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Speaker 4: I don't think.

492
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Speaker 3: It's Yeah, I'm with you. I mean I just look

493
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Speaker 3: at you know, their games.

494
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Speaker 2: If you look at it, there's really just a couple

495
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Speaker 2: of games that have skewed the way that they're scoring looks.

496
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Speaker 3: You know. They had the thirty thirty nine to thirty

497
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Speaker 3: eight loss to the Browns, which is baffling. They scored

498
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Speaker 3: thirty eight points and loss that kind of skews everything

499
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Speaker 3: for you. And then they had a thirty eight to

500
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Speaker 3: twenty seven loss to the Saints. Those are not good offenses.

501
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Speaker 4: No they're not. That's a strange games. So I assume

502
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Speaker 4: there was defensive and special teams touchdowns and nose because

503
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: those are not high flying teams at all.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they turned the ball. They turned them all over

505
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Speaker 2: four times against the Browns.

506
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Speaker 3: Wow. See.

507
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Speaker 4: That's the thing about Minshew that we even talked enough

508
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Speaker 4: about this week too, is he's a fun quarterback, but

509
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Speaker 4: he's also worrisome. I mean, he puts the ball in

510
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: harm's way a lot, sometimes gets away with it, sometimes

511
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: he doesn't. I Mean he's a great bring him off

512
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: the bench to kick start your team type of guy,

513
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Speaker 4: but he's not exactly someone the values of football.

514
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Speaker 3: No, for sure.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, and if you look at it, they have

516
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Speaker 2: consistently turned the football over. In fact, they're on a

517
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Speaker 2: streak of it was two, four or five eight consecutive

518
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Speaker 2: games with turnovers.

519
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Speaker 4: Really I wasn't aware of that. But no, that doesn't

520
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Speaker 4: shock me. I mean just their style of play and

521
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Speaker 4: you know who the quarterback.

522
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Speaker 3: Is and yeah that yeah, really it kind of matches up.

523
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Speaker 3: What did what would Richardson play? Like the first four

524
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Speaker 3: games this year?

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he finished any of them though,

526
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Speaker 4: or only finished one of them.

527
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Speaker 2: He only finished one maybe it was five games. I

528
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Speaker 2: can't did he play against Tennessee, Let mean let me

529
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Speaker 2: look at might.

530
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Speaker 4: Not have finished the fifth one. I know he didn't

531
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Speaker 4: finish his last one, but right, yeah, they turned all

532
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Speaker 4: over twenty times.

533
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Speaker 2: It's a bunch. Yeah, he actually played in that Titans game.

534
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: So since and I think that's when he got hurt.

535
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: So since Minshew has been in their quarterback, they've turned

536
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Speaker 2: the ball over in every game as their starting quarterback.

537
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: They had four turnovers against Jacksonville, four turnovers against the

538
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Speaker 2: Browns against one, one against the Saints, one against the Panthers,

539
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: one against the Patriots, one against the Buccaneers, two against

540
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Speaker 2: the Titans, two against the Bengals.

541
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Speaker 4: Wow.

542
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Speaker 3: With Minshew a quarterback.

543
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Speaker 4: For context, folks, the Steelers have turned the ball over

544
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: eleven times all year. That's the lowest in the league.

545
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: Colts have turned it over twenty times, I mean, and

546
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Speaker 4: a lot lately as you mentioned it.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the games that Minshew starts, they've turned

548
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Speaker 2: it over sixteen times in those eight games.

549
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Speaker 3: Wow.

550
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 4: So two per Wow if you could do that.

551
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: And Steelers are one of the best teams taking the

552
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Speaker 2: ball away, as are the Colts.

553
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they both have twenty one takeaways, which is

554
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Speaker 4: right in the thought of the league.

555
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Speaker 3: The difference is the Colts also turn it over a

556
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Speaker 3: bunch exactly. That is the different But I'm wonder is

557
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: some of that maybe because they are rushing so much.

558
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

559
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: I guess that's a good question. I mean, if you

560
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 4: run more plays, you're going to have more turnovers. Let alone,

561
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: if you're not as calm and controlled as the line

562
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Speaker 4: of scrimmage.

563
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Speaker 3: You're not allowing Minshew to get up to the line

564
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: of you. Hey, we want you to snap the ball

565
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: within ten seconds of getting up to the line of scrimmage.

566
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: We want to go fast, fast, fast, fast. Said, well,

567
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 3: sometimes you need to slow things down a little bit

568
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: and feet, especially against a team like the Steelers that

569
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: are gonna they're going to show you a lot of

570
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: different looks at the line of scrimmage.

571
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. One other note about

572
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: their turnover stuff, which I found interesting was, and we

573
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Speaker 4: keep talking about their defense and their style of defense

574
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: is they do have a lot of athletes. They have

575
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: a lot of length, you know, they run to the football.

576
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: They get a lot of people there. But they're not big,

577
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: you know, they're not a lot of singular great tacklers,

578
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 4: but they are good gang tacklers. And they've caused twenty

579
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: one fumbles, which is a lot, but they haven't recovered

580
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: nearly fifty percent of them. They've kind of been unlucky

581
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: with their fumble recovery reason. But fumbles are one thing

582
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: over the last really over like the Nause Harris era,

583
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 4: that I really don't think plagues the Steelers all that much.

584
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 4: I mean, they've they've been one of the best non

585
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: fumbling teams in the league over the last year or two.

586
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

587
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at this, So they have one, two, three, four, five,

588
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: six games this season when they've only where they've only

589
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: forced one turnover. Okay, they have lost, well, they beat

590
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: the Texans, so they're one to zero, one and one,

591
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: two and one, two and two, two and three. They're

592
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: two and four when they have only forced one turnover.

593
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: Wow, and they're averaging two per game with Minshew as

594
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Speaker 4: a quarterback.

595
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

596
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: So if you can limit the turnovers in this game,

597
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: which obviously, but if even if you only turn it

598
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: over once, and because they're probably going to turn it

599
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: over multiple times m hm, so when that turnover battle

600
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: is huge in this game.

601
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Speaker 4: So how much slack or how you know from a

602
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: one to ten, how aggressive do you want Trubisky to

603
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: be in this game? I mean if in neutral situations,

604
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: I mean zero zero at seven to seven? You know

605
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: obviously it's different if you're down twelve the yeah, right right,

606
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: you know?

607
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean I I if you if you see it

608
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: and it's wide open, you know, throw it. I would

609
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: trust Pickens a little bit, you know down the field

610
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: maybe you know, but again you know, do you don't?

611
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: You don't want to turn the football over here? I

612
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: think you should be able to run the.

613
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: Football against these guys, and and so you know, I don't.

614
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to be super aggressive.

615
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: I mean either either. I mean, frankly, that's what worries

616
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: me most about Trubisky is it seems like there's two

617
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: or three balls most of his NFL games, Where oh,

618
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: why are you throwing that one? You know, like you

619
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: can't have a bevy of those?

620
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. If you do that, you're going to

621
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: be in trouble. You know, play it like the Bengals

622
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 2: did last week.

623
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Speaker 4: M hm, I agree. I think you want the ball

624
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: in your running back's hands a lot.

625
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Now, I think by the end of this game, I

627
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: want Nause Harris and Jalen Warren to have touched the

628
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: ball thirty five times at least.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't care how you do it. In fact,

630
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Speaker 3: if if they don't have between the two of them

631
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Speaker 3: seven or eight catches, you know, I think that that

632
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: that that's something that's got to happen.

633
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I wouldn't mind three Trubisky carries

634
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: as well.

635
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm with you. I'm with you one.

636
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and probably isn't it a huge, friarmooth game, Like

637
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that you have to test the middle

638
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: of the field a ton, you know, or as as

639
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: a staple of your game plan. I mean, if you're

640
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: getting it to those backs and running the ball with

641
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: consistency and eating clock, I think that's the game you

642
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: want to play.

643
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

644
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

645
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: In terms of this, according to ESPN, if Indianapolis wins

646
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: this game, it's odds to make the playoffs improve to

647
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: sixty four percent. Okay, if they lose it, they drop

648
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: to twenty two percent. If the Steelers win this game,

649
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: they go to forty eight percent to make the playoffs.

650
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: If they lose this it goes to ten percent. So

651
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: you want to talk about playoff type atmosphere.

652
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: That's what this is, okay. I mean the chart that

653
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: I like for that is all based off of EPA

654
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: and they have the A loss drops you to seventeen

655
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: point six percent. A win takes you to forty eight

656
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: point four percent. I mean that's the last preteam that's

657
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: as big as discrepancy of any team on this list.

658
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's as big a game as you can get.

659
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: And the Colts, if they win, they have them going

660
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 4: to sixty seven percent. If they lose, they have them

661
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: at thirty three. So yeah, that's for them as well.

662
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Speaker 4: But there's no one with more of every NFL team

663
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: on here. There's no one with more don't variance than

664
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Speaker 4: the Steelers for this game.

665
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we you know, we know with the ESPN

666
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: uses the FPI their Football Power Index, their Football Power Index.

667
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: Even though the cults are favored in this game, you

668
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: don't typically see this usually when you see their FPI,

669
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: uh and you look at it, they run it through

670
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: their computer simulations the Steelers. The Steelers win this game

671
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: fifty five point eight percent of the time by an

672
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: average of two points, and yet the culture favored.

673
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: But it has dropped, and I think quick again, I

674
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: don't know much about betting or how it works, except

675
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: for they want, you know, equal people betting both sides.

676
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: But I was listening to a podcast that really stresses

677
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: betting this morning and they said, I expect this game

678
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: to be a pick them a kickoff. You know that

679
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: people are really catching on the sharps, the smart people,

680
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: the people that know matchups and things of that nature,

681
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: that more and more people think the Steelers are going

682
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: to win this game. And we've talked about it all week.

683
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: I think this is a good matchup stylistically for the Steelers.

684
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: Me too, Me too. And I also think it's a

685
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: very it's a nice advantage that you're a little more rested,

686
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: you know, Like, yeah, it would Watton high Smith be

687
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: this far along if you played last Sunday, you know,

688
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: I mean maybe not.

689
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: We'd be probably waiting up until game time for them

690
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: to get cleared maybe.

691
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I mean it certainly wouldn't be clear right

692
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: now as we record this. The other thing is too,

693
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: is hey, you played really bad two weeks in a

694
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Speaker 4: row or two games in a row, but now you

695
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: have nine days to prepare. Maybe you add something that

696
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have you know, I mean your self scout

697
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: a little bit. You know that you wouldn't something you

698
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been been able to improvide or add to

699
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: the equation. So I do think the rest helps.

700
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the Steelers are relatively healthy outside of the

701
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: quarterback position going into this game, so you know that

702
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: that's all that all plays into this.

703
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: Hey, But it's a short week for the Colts.

704
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Right yeah, so the you know, the Colt said one

705
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: the Colts on Monday, we're having.

706
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: A walk through while the Steelers are having a full practice.

707
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, well rested, spend a couple of days on the

708
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: cow to their families, so I think that's important. Need

709
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: it for their home stretch.

710
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Speaker 2: Actually it was Tuesday. The Colts are having a walk through.

711
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Well the Steelers, Well, the Steelers are having a full practice.

712
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that was their first practice the week. I

713
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: was shocked they walked through there. So we're going to

714
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Speaker 2: get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I

715
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Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more on the

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Speaker 2: Drive right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lewing.

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Speaker 2: He is Dean, Matt Williamson, and Matt that that Cincinnati

723
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Speaker 2: Minnesota game is interesting as well. The Bengals are favored

724
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: by three in that game. The over unders forty and

725
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: a half. This is a huge game for the Bengals,

726
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: especially when you start looking at what they have remaining

727
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: on their schedule. You know, I know they're they're feeling

728
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: pretty good about themselves. Right now, and they should be.

729
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: They've won a couple of games in a row, and

730
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Speaker 2: you know, beat Jacksonville and won last week. You know,

731
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Speaker 2: to get to seven and six with a win over

732
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: these Colts thirty four to fourteen, Okah, very convincing. If

733
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: they could beat the Vikings. Now all of a sudden

734
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: they're eight and six, But then they have to come

735
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh at the Chiefs, and then they finish up

736
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Speaker 2: against the Browns.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know that they're in it overall.

738
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't long ago. It was a

739
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: month or so ago, three weeks ago where we were

740
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: always talking Bills and Bengals. A boy, they've really dug

741
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: a hole. And something we kept sighting with both those

742
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: teams is, boy, so many of their losses are conference losses.

743
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: So fortunately for the bengals sake, they did just win

744
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: two games in a row in the AFC, so that

745
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: stuff's getting better for them at least. I don't know.

746
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm sitting here in Bengal Land, I

747
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: would say Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Cleveland are all very winnable games.

748
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Speaker 4: You don't love going to Kansas City, right, I mean

749
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: bringing one from here on out.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though they're winless in the conference or

751
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: winless in the division, I should.

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: Say, I mean, you know, do you have faith in

753
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: this team?

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: You know, we just saw the Steelers play Bengals three

755
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: weeks ago and the Bengals scored ten points.

756
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm not on the train that Browning's the next

757
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: party's the next Brady blah blah, you know what I mean.

758
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: Like he's played well, but I also think that there

759
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: is a book on him now that he'll be easier

760
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: to play against. And I have great respect for coach

761
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: Flores and how tough he can be on quarterbacks and

762
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: how aggressive they are. I'm betting that the Bengals offense

763
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Speaker 4: doesn't do a lot.

764
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Speaker 2: I bet that they've scored thirty four points in each

765
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Speaker 2: of the last two games. I'm gonna go out on

766
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Speaker 2: a limit say they ain't getting the thirty four of

767
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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 4: I would just say, I bet they're under twenty. Yeah,

769
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Speaker 4: I mean, just because quarterback. What's pretty cool about the Vikings.

770
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Speaker 4: I know we're not here to talk Vikings defensive scheme.

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Speaker 3: You know all the time.

772
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Speaker 4: Not only are they the heaviest blitz team in the league,

773
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Speaker 4: I mean it's not even close. I mean, they're way

774
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Speaker 4: ahead of everyone else of rushing five or more. I'm

775
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: almost certain they're also the team that rushes six or

776
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Speaker 4: more than anybody else. But they're also the team that

777
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 4: rushes three the most, so they like never bring four.

778
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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean, they just mix it up

779
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: and constantly. It's constantly changing. They're coming up eighteen points

780
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: six points per game. They've actually moved ahead of the

781
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Speaker 2: Steelers in terms of points allowed.

782
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Speaker 4: They've been one of the best defenses in the league lately.

783
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Speaker 4: Not like boy they're a cute little story. They've been

784
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: one of the best defenses in the league. I mean

785
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: over the last month or so.

786
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so they I think that's gonna be

787
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: a tough game for the for the Bengals. I kind

788
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: of like Minnesota in that game. Yeah, especially, I'll take

789
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: the three points if you're gonna give me three points.

790
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: The Vikings are only giving up ninety two point nine

791
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Speaker 2: rushing yards per game.

792
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Speaker 4: I can't believe how well their defense is playing. I

793
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: thought they'd be one of the worst defenses in the league.

794
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: I mean, just their personnel is not that great. Yeah,

795
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 4: but then I always cite EPA, and I've been real big.

796
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Speaker 4: One of my new kicks is just what have you

797
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: done the last four weeks? Well, the two best defenses

798
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Speaker 4: in the league of the last four weeks are New

799
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Speaker 4: England number one, pretty clearly, in Minnesota number two, pretty clearly.

800
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: Like these are big time defenses. Later they're playing great,

801
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: and I think that's a real challenge for the Bengals.

802
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it will be too. And I kind

803
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: of like the Vikings to win that game.

804
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: Maybe outright, maybe. I think Jefferson's playing and more and

805
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: more you're getting reports that he's gonna go.

806
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, they won't have Madison

807
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: for that game, which hurts.

808
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: No, it's gonna be a heavy Chandler game.

809
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and they're making, of course the

810
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: switch at quarterback as well. But they've had extra time

811
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: to prepare for this game, so.

812
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: More and more digging into that quarterback switch. I don't

813
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: know that it's a huge slight on Dobbs, although it

814
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: is to some degree. I mean, there's a reason he's

815
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: been on so many teams so quickly. But I get

816
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 4: the impression that they really like mullets. You know that

817
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: they would have been not fine. Nobody's happy about when

818
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: Cousins goes down.

819
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: No, right, yeah, they were.

820
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: They were happy with him as a two, like they

821
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: never would have made the Dobs trade had Mullins been

822
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Speaker 4: healthy at the time.

823
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Speaker 2: That the Broncos Lions game is particularly interesting as well

824
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: in that if you if you start looking at what

825
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: the Broncos have left after this week, and it's this

826
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: a non conference game for them. They haven't won many

827
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Speaker 2: games in the conference. But after this game, my goodness,

828
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: they get the they get the Patriots at home, then

829
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Speaker 2: they play the Chargers.

830
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Speaker 3: Yuck.

831
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Speaker 4: Now I'm convinced Chargers aren't when they I don't think

832
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: they beat the Panthers right now.

833
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're yeah, they're in trouble, and then

834
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Speaker 2: they finish up at the Raiders.

835
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, frankly, their path is the easiest of all

836
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Speaker 4: the seven and six AFC teams in terms of strength

837
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 4: of schedule games remaining. So I think maybe even more

838
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: than rooting against the Bengals, you really want that we're

839
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 4: lose in Detroit.

840
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, because if you if you start looking at

841
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: who Denver has beaten in their little streak here, they've

842
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: won what six or their last seven. They got to

843
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: win over the Packers, They're going to win over the

844
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs twenty four to nine. They won in Buffalo, that's

845
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: Buffalo's only home loss this year, twenty four to twenty two.

846
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Beat the Vikings twenty one to twenty, beat the Browns

847
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: twenty nine to twelve. Then they lost to the Texans,

848
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: so they lose a tiebreaker to the Texans, and then

849
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: they just beat the Chargers twenty four to seven. Really,

850
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: these are a lot of the teams that they're going

851
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: to be battling with. But this is also a team

852
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: that lost to the Jets at home thirty one to

853
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: twenty one.

854
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: They're almost like the tail of two teams. Though, I

855
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: mean that first six weeks or the first five weeks

856
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: or whatever was they were the worst team in the league.

857
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like the exact opposite of the Colts. Yeah,

858
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: who want to play slow, They want to play meticulous.

859
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: There's no it's letting Russ simmer as opposed to letting

860
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 3: Russ cook just simmer, take it slow, take it easy,

861
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: protect the defense absolutely.

862
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: Like I think it was me at times from ESPN

863
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: made this joke. Is they're they're not letting Russ cook.

864
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: They're letting Russ make snacks. You know, like he's cutting

865
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: up the pepperoni and the cheese and the crackers, but

866
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: he's not making the turkey, get the stopping and you know,

867
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: just yeah, yeah, they're playing really well. I mean I

868
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: keep citing this little chart. The last four weeks, they're

869
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: the third best defense. They're right behind ten New England

870
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 4: in Minnesota. I mean they're playing.

871
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, play that game that they play against New England

872
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve.

873
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: That's an eight to fifteen game on Christmas Eve.

874
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 5: That Dealers Patriots is going to be like yeah, yeah,

875
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 5: you know yeah, I mean I just think that that

876
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: one's going to be fascinating that they could lose that game.

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Speaker 4: Oh they could lose that game. Yeah, I mean a

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Speaker 4: low scoring, grinded out type of game. That's exactly how

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Speaker 4: both teams want to play. I give them a sixty

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Speaker 4: percent chance of winning, not a seventy or eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They also lost to the Raiders in Week one, seventeen

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Speaker 2: to sixteen. That's who they finish up the season gets.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect from them, to be

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Speaker 2: honest with me. No, the Broncos, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I like their chances in their last three. I'd love

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Speaker 4: to see them lose in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they'll be favored against the Patriots, Chargers,

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Speaker 2: maybe against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders could be a pick.

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Speaker 4: Them game, could be, could be. I'm not convince the

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Speaker 4: Raiders are good. I'm not saying the Broncos are good.

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Speaker 3: They play hard, though they play hard for that guy

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the quarterbacks real, but.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they could be back to Jimmy Garoppolo by the

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Speaker 3: by the final game of the season. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, kind of shocked they didn't go ready. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously last night there was no reason too. But now,

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Speaker 4: but Denver, I think a lot of people look at

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Speaker 4: Denver as amongst the seven in six teams and be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's cute, that's a nice little story. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: remember when they let up seventy and I thought they

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Speaker 4: were to trade all their guys. Sean Payton might be

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Speaker 4: a pretty good coach. No, they might go to the playoffs, folks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they might be a team that gets in.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna get to another break that's going to

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Speaker 2: do it for our number one of the Drive. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: it's time to start our number two and with that

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Speaker 2: we will pick our DFS lineup. Can we get another

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Speaker 2: win this week? We'll find out right after this