WEBVTT - Rebel Girl 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.400 Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.080 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.400 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.360 Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:30.920 with Ben Maller starts right now. Well, I can't believe 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.040 I did it, but I finally did it. I have 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.600 taken over the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. It is 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.040 David Gascon right here courtesy of her Fox Sports Radio 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.680 Studios here in the beautiful city of Los Angeles, and 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.760 with Ben out and I come in, I get to 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.200 plan the sandbox. I do so with the female companion. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.839 She's a member of the UFC. Ashley Evans Smith is 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.720 in the house. Ashley, thanks for having me on. I 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.040 know it was. It was kind of wild. We uh 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.280 a little bit of background we uh. We connect did 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.520 through a mutual colleague, and I had a conversation just 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.319 about boxing and the UFC and mixed martial arts and 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.760 all these things combined with with the way that the 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.560 entertainment world is and it's one of the natures of 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.040 the beast. With the UFC, they they have been really 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.120 progressive and aggressive in terms of getting back out there 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.360 and getting in front of fans, albeit without frands in 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.200 the stands or fans and attendance. But they're doing so 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.880 with events that are going on right now. And I 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.000 thought it was fitting when a mutual contact of ours 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.360 decided to introduce us and UH and he had some 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.920 great things, some candid things to say about you, So 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.600 it was great to obviously connect and then to have 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.800 you on UM. I get to break the cardinal sin 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.119 of a man to a woman here, so I get 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.960 to do this with with a quick rundown. Because you 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.000 are a fighter, you do compete in the UFC, So 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.120 I get ask a couple of different things. We need 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.160 the skin in the background on you because weight classes 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.840 obviously you're involvement with the UFC, and then background wise, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.880 can you can you will sitting on the gaps a 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.960 little bit? Yeah, I mean that's a pretty loaded question, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.600 but I'll try to make it short and suite. I 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.560 originally from Northern California, wrestled on a boys tum high school, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.720 got a scholarship and wrestled for four years in the 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.320 Bay Area at Menlo College. Was a part time All 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.920 American there and from there I got into m M 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.760 A and uh, I just loved it. You know, I 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.840 had wrestled forever and it was the closest thing to wrestling, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.760 so I just took off with it. I was fighting 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.360 like left and right as an amateur. Moved from the 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.400 Bay Area down to Orange County I think two thousands, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.320 and like twelve or thirteens from around there went pro 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.960 around that time. You know, um moved down to Orange 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.080 County by myself, so had to really do the whole 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.160 like struggle and make it on your own, make and 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.240 meat type thing. But you know, I got a job 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.080 and a little apartment and all that, and a thousand 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.560 and fourteen, I got a last minute call, short notice 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.480 call from the UFC to fill in for It was 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.200 Holly Home at the time, and it was getting point, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.960 which is one thirty five and I was a flyweight 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.799 in all managers. Sorry, I was a featherweight in all 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.239 my amateur fights all through high school, all through college, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.400 and that's one forty five. So they called me and 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.760 they're like, you know, basically ten pounds lighter but when 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.639 the UFC calls me, don't say no. So I had 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.480 racked up a record at that point of three, you know, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.680 as a professional, and I'm you know, nine amateur fights, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.839 which is not that much when you get into the UFC. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.040 We need, you know, get to the top level. You 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.560 want to have you know a solid amount of professional 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.920 fights so you feel nice and ready. But like I said, 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.880 before the UFC calls, you don't say no and still 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.320 cut the weight. And I've been fighting for the UFC 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.400 ever since since to plus fourteen. And some stories when 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.320 you when you got the call to was that from 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.760 an agent or was that from the UFC directly? And 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.360 when you received the call, did you think it was 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:54.080 a prank? No, I knew it was real because I 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.240 had done a some pretty cool things in the M 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.160 M A world that last year. I had decided to 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.440 take a high risk, high rewards fight out in Miami, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.640 and uh, you know, everyone that I was gonna lose. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.360 I end up winning when a title out there, and 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.320 so I kind of knew that call was coming. Not 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.800 to be cocky, but um my name got put on 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.200 the map with that fight, and so I knew it 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.280 was gonna come I didn't know it was going to 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.279 come so quickly after the fight, but yeah, I got 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.760 the call from my manager who would lay the message, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.640 and I was really overweight at the time, but you know, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.200 I got on the treadmill and made the Wait. Yeah, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.680 when when you mentioned the the wrestling aspect of your backgrounds, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.720 it's fascinating to me because you always looked to to 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.240 what got an individual involved in combat training. So was 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.240 there anything or anybody that kind of pointed you in 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.400 the direction of of wrestling back in the day when 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.000 you were young in or was it just instinct on 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.839 your own behalf that you want to compete and you 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.400 wanted to to to wrestle against another individual, male or female. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.279 It was very unique in rare situation. I'm super lucky 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.119 and grateful because no one asked me. I just took 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.320 it as a Basically, my little brother who's a year 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.520 younger than me, his friends, we were I was always 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.680 a tomboy. I was always being up on, you know, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.000 him and his friends. And then one kid went away 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.120 to military camp, came back and just like doubling you 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.040 know me really hard. And I was like, you know, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.799 what is this And he was like, oh, don't worry. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 I wrestled now, but girls can't wrestle. And I'm like 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.640 fifteen years old, and at that age, you know, you 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.720 think you know everything. And I was like, I can wrestle. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.839 I'll show you. So I went out and joined the 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.280 boys high school team and I got my ask beat 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.880 for quite a while. But you know, I think it 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.880 was my stubbornness that kept me in the sport. And 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.719 then after I got my first ten, don't never forget. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.160 It was like a drug. I was like, oh, I 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.520 want more of that, and I stuck with it and 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.119 end up being a three time try state champion Washington, Oregon, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.280 California UM in high school, which led me to get 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.920 a scholarship to go to Menlo College. And you know, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.520 it was like a drug after that. It was my 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.080 favorite ing. I've never really had any other hobbies as 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.200 a kid. I'm kind of just like a like a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.479 likeum be kind of from the little Girl. Really, I 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.880 was gonna say, because you're from Yukayah, correct, Yeah, small 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.120 town in northern California. Yeah, that was the next question. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.760 I was gonna ask you, like, where the fund is 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.480 Yukaia because you find it you look at you look 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.479 at a map and it's northern boots of California. So 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.080 for you to come from Yukaya all the way down 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.240 to Orange County, you know, you think about some of 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.560 the UFC finds there different outskirts of the country. But yeah, 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:38.120 Yukaiah is up in BFC in California. As those are parties. Yeah, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.560 they're trying to find out a map. Don't look too hard. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.920 Nothing special. You know, it's a great place if you're 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.280 old or young, super young or super old, but you know, 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.160 it's not a place to want to, you know, go 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.719 to if you're in your early teens, thirty something like that. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.680 You know, I I'm grateful that I wasn't in some 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.640 kind of like metropolitan area because I probably would have 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.920 gotten in more trouble. Because I actually got into quite 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.760 a bit of trouble in my small town. So I'm 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.599 imagining if I was somewhere, you know, with more trouble, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.040 I probably would have got more trouble. But yeah, here 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.720 I am now in Orange County. You've been here for 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.800 you know, a little under ten years or something like that, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.160 and you know, I love it. I love my family 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.160 up in northern California. But as far as locations wise, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.840 I'm much rather to live in Orange County. Yeah, no doubt. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:29.239 What's the what's the thought process behind when you're engaged 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.440 in talking to people about what you do as a career, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.280 do you feel that you empower women and men look 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:41.160 down upon you or vice versa? No, you know, Um, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.200 I really I don't really know too much. Like I 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.400 don't really know how I effect a specific individual or 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.800 a specific group of people until they tell me. Um, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.560 And you don't really think about it. But then randomly 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.240 you'll get a message, whether it's from a kid or 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.840 a woman or even a man. And I've had everything, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.600 you know, all across the board, from a little kid 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.320 that's like wow looking up to me, or a woman 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.840 who's you know, I've given her um strength to pursue 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.080 self defense because she felt she felt weak or something 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.560 like that. Um. But what I actually I have not 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.400 gone is I've never been told by a man that 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.600 he looks down upon me for this. Um. I mean, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.080 I'm sure they're out there, you know. Misogyny is a thing, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.200 but I've been fortunate in the sense that the types 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.200 of trolls and backlash I get are more so, you know, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.960 for it's not even backlash, it's like creepy guys like 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.560 I want feat pictures or something like. That's pretty damn good. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.439 Well we'll get to that too, because there's some really 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.079 interesting stuff that you're doing right now. Besides fine that, well, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.960 we'll definitely jump into Be sure to catch live editions 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.600 of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.040 eleven p m Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.199 I Heart Radio. I'm kind of curious just on your 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.679 thought process because we've had people made statements in the 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:06.720 past about men fighting women, whether it's boxing or mixed 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.360 martial arts um based on your weight class. Would you 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.720 ever consider doing that? No, you know, I wrestled in 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.920 high school against boys only because there was no girls team. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.880 I didn't think to myself, I'm better than any of 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.600 these boys. I'm fully aware that men and women are 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.080 built differentely, biologically, and that's just affects science, you know. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.720 So I'm not saying that women can't do the same 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.600 types of things that man can. But I definitely don't 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.360 want to go against a man because I'm putting myself 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.880 at a disadvantage and I wouldn't want any other woman 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.480 to do that as well. Um, if old man and 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.960 a woman both agree that that's what they want to do, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.160 all right, what are to you? Good? Luckily? You know, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.800 But I think I'll stick to finding my own gender. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.720 Have you ever been stuck on the streets and been 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:01.600 called upon to use any of your training? Stuck is 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.000 not the right word. What it's like, I said. When 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.560 I was younger, I got into a lot of trouble 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.120 frights and stuff like that. I grew up in like 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.600 a punk rock community where you go to these like, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.719 you know, crazy small venues that everyone's stuffed inside. It's 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.560 all sweaty and stinky, and you know, the band starts playing. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.600 The whole mosh pit goes around and you're pushing each 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.040 other and someone gets pushed and they have got an 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.280 ego and then also a fight breaks out and you're like, bro, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.000 it's you know, it's lushing, you know, come down. And 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.520 So I got into a lot of fifth fights as 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.719 a as a teenager, and um, I loved it. That 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.760 adrenaline rush was really it was really fun. You know, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.679 I didn't I never thought I could make a career 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.120 out of it. Um So I defin really loved him 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.720 that since I've been doing what I loved for a 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:48.280 long time, but I've never go ahead and I've never 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.400 you know, when you say stuck. Um, Now that I'm older, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.600 I think got I'm a lot smarter. When you're younger, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.200 you know, you get put in a situation where you're like, oh, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.319 I gotta fight this person. But when you're younger, you 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.000 put your ego aside. You got more to lose, you know, 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.440 pretty much after eighteen, you're an adult, so people compress 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.760 charges all that. So you got to educate. You gotta 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.480 be smart. Um, if you're a kid, you gotta be 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:15.280 smart too, but there's less potential to be um get 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.679 in trouble, I guess. Yeah. I mean, especially in today's 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.280 day and age, where you got social media platforms. You 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.000 get everyone with a cell phone and a camera. You 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.840 make one bad decision, you're you're kind of game over. Yeah. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.480 Speaking as social media, we had a chat earlier in 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.920 the week about just the impact of it and uh, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.880 with our our past crossing. You know, one of the 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.520 things that you have been uh, correct me if I'm wrong, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.000 I think enamored with is the way that that social 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.720 media is, especially in the podcasting world, Uh, you have 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.800 a background in journalism, and you actually have veered off 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.280 the beaten path a little bit with with the UFC 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.000 and fighting, and you've kind of crafted your own podcast, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.720 asked if you will that has specific things you like 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.040 to discuss. Um, we're gonna get into that a little bit, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:11.000 so can you elaborate a bit more? Yeah, so, you know, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.120 as you know, I'm known for I think my mark 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.880 has been made as far as being a fighter, and 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.720 not a lot of people do know that I have 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.560 a degree in journalism. I love being on camera, you know, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.920 not like, oh, the spotlight is on me, but more 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.280 so I enjoy doing what you're doing right now. I 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.000 enjoy interviewing people people, I enjoy getting to know someone, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.640 listening to all the different stories and all that. And 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.520 podcasting is really big right now. It's been pretty big 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.920 for the last few years. Um, you know, the whole 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.120 Joe Rogat, you know, Spotify buying JeOS podcast is like 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.000 really open to everybody's eyes because how much money he's 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.360 making in the next few years. But um, I've known 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.480 it's been a growing medium for quite a while. But 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.120 at the same time, I never thought I really had 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.840 anything special, Meaning you know, what what was I going 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.840 to do? Was I gonna talk about fighting? Well, there's 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.360 so many mm A podcasts, what was gonna set me apart? 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.160 And so I kind of combined two things that I 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.200 love and that's uh, you know, m m A. And 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.720 then the other topic would be dating relationships, sex and 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.760 so the podcast is called Sex and Violence with Rebel Girl. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.400 Rebel Girls my fight nickname, so if you guys don't know, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.120 but uh yeah, second violence is Revel Girl as a 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.160 podcast where I interview top level mm A fighters. So 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.360 far in all UFC fighters UM either active or retired. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.520 UM today later today will be my third episode with 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.240 a couple, so it'll be my first time interviewing two 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.600 fighters at once. And we just talked about everything across 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.480 the board. UM that untail's love, dating, relationships, romance and 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.480 even sex and so it could be pretty pgs. You know. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.319 I had a Sam Alvie, he's a current actor light 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.679 heavyweight fighter in the UFC. He talked about his marriage, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.960 he talked about adopting his kids, and you know, I 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.480 tried to dig deep for the dirt, but sometimes it's 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.160 just not there. But the first episode, we had former 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:08.000 UFC fighter hyweight Ian McCall uncle Creepy and if his 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.760 nickname doesn't explain how the podcast episode went, then you 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.520 gotta listen to it because he's just an interesting man 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.320 who you know, talked about mushrooms for about half an 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.560 hour before we got into three sums with Chuck the Bell. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.560 So you're gonna get everything across the board. You're gonna 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.320 get the married guy, and then you're gonna get a 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.600 single guy. You're gonna get the you know, the couple 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.360 that's going to be on this episode. And it's just 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.920 for me, in my opinion, a way to humanize the fighters. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.920 You know, when you get to a certain notoriety or 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.680 uh popularity level, right, whether it's fighters or I mean, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.640 maybe you'd be experience this right your a podcast host. Um, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.040 people tend to be humanize you and think that they 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.360 can say whatever they want, things that they would never 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.120 say in public peer faith, especially an average person to 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.520 a professional fighter. But I guess in my my hopes 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.880 of doing this, you know, A got many hopes. You know, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.520 I love doing this, but number one, number two, I 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.120 think it's great to give the fighters like myself and 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.600 my colleagues another platform to express who they are. And lastly, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.680 to help you know, regular people, the listeners, the fans 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.600 of followers, humanize these fighters and know that we all 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.080 came from the same place at one point. We've all 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.680 got some awkward loss of our virginity story, We've all 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.320 got some weird dating catfish story and or you know, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.240 something along those lines. And I'm really hoping that it 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.640 catches fire because I think that sometimes people are just 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.000 seen as like a like fighters, like dance monkey dance, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.320 like monkey in the cage kind of right, But in 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.840 all actuality, we're all humans and we're all the same. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.600 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.680 Show weekdays at two am eastern pm Pacific. I had 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.200 a question for you, and it totally was thrown off 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.920 by what you just said. Um, what was your awkward 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.440 way of losing your virginity? Oh man, my host, total 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.960 like technical statutory rape, total awkward. It was like I 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.720 was fifteen and this guy I never forget, like you 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.520 know those guys he was nineteen fifteen, nineteen, not good 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:21.080 but or a statory rape probably yeah, yeah, good story. Okay, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.320 so little forget this guy because I was like I 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.520 had such a crush on him at the time, when 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.720 you're fifteen, you look at this guy like he's nineteen. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.120 He's like smoking cigarettes, and he's like he's one of 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.320 those like BMX guys, like total dirtbags, such a dirt bag. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.720 And I just lost it in like a shitty like uncomfortable, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.000 like I even cried afterwards. It was not a good story. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.760 Oh my gosh. Yeah, not a good story. Not a 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.240 good start to my my sex life. Yeah. I mean 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.040 so after the end, did you did you go to 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:55.120 the authorities? Did you go to any friends any? No? No, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.960 it wasn't like it wasn't like a thing that I 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.320 didn't want, you know. I think unfortunately young girls and 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:06.760 young guys they don't see the potential harm in being 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.879 sexual with someone far past their own age. You know, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.080 you just see you look, you look to older people 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.919 as like, oh like this, you know this, you know, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.080 almost like godlike figure, you know, an older guy or 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.440 a guys sometimes like an older woman, but in all actuality, 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.560 it's creepy as hell. You know, the older person needs 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.359 to know that that's wrong, and they don't always do that. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.960 Obviously it's not a perfect world, but um, I wasn't 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.280 upset about it. I just I cried in the sense 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.520 that it was like, you know, fifteen year old girls 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.040 awkward and you're like, oh, this is not what I expected. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.000 And then and then after that was a game on 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.720 for you once you hit Once you got into college, Uh, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.920 it was like sporadic, like I have like a boyfriend here, 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.919 boyfriend there, you know, and college was actually I was. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.200 I was a really good girl in college. I m 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.520 partied so hard from like fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen, UM, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.440 gone to a lot of trouble, went to Jusie when 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:07.880 I was seventeen, almost lost my scholarship to wrestle. Because 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.280 I know, it sounds crazy. Stabbed the guy when I 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.640 was drinking with some friends. You stabbed the guy. Hold on, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.359 hold on, where the fund did you stab him? And 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.280 where were you guys for you to stab him? I know, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.119 just so weird. I got a weird little background story, 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.120 but it all. You know, it sounds so corny, But 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.639 I'm happy that these things happened when I was younger, 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.000 because if they happened later in life, like I just 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.760 talked about, like past eighteen, I could have been some 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.280 serious time. And then the whole course of my life. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.679 I wouldn't have went to college. I wouldn't have been 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.400 a good girl in college because of this. But I'll 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.720 get to the story. I know you want to hear it. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:51.440 So what happened was seventeens, a couple of months before graduation. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.720 We're all drinking and party and all this little punk rockers. Um. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.840 I got a pocket knife in my pocket because I'd 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.639 gone into a fight with this girl a couple of 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.960 weeks before, and because like, oh, she's out there, she's 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.760 gonna stab you. She's telling people she's going to find 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.000 you and stab you. Someone gave me a pocket knife 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.560 and I was like, I don't need to use this. Well. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.560 Fast forward. We're drinking, I'm blacked out drunk. It's you know, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.159 not a good not a good scene. I end up 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.359 into a fight with a girl and as I'm getting 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.600 pulled off, um of this girl that I'm fighting, I guess, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.760 you know, I don't recall, but it was told later 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.320 that I end up stabbing the person that was trying 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.560 to help the situation, try to pull me off, and 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.680 you know, um, he survived. You know, I stabbed him 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.000 in the side kind of like a little love handle. Area, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.560 and maybe that's what saved him because he only had 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.120 to get butterfly stitches. He was fine, and I went 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.560 to Julie for a few months, almost off my scholarship, 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.119 but the judge was really great. She let me out 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.680 with a continuency situation where I had to return home 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.159 and serve the remainder of my time on my Thanksgiving 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.959 and Christmas break. So my first year of college not 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.760 the smoothest, but um, never the less. That's why I 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.159 was sober. Be sure to catch live editions of The 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.919 Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.840 What uh, well, I mean, obviously you've you've definitely matured, 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:17.000 as they would say, um from there on. But when 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.640 and you get involved in something like that, obviously you're 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.359 scared shitless and now obviously you're trying to redeem yourself 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.959 when you got into college. But um, are you now? 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.280 Are you married or you have a boyfriend, or are 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.800 you involved with anybody now? Because you talk about what 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.600 you're doing outside the scope of the cage, talking about 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.719 like sex and fighting and whatnot. So I'm curious as 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.880 to if you're having that conversation with a significant other 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.400 now about sex and things that you've done, or things 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:48.760 that you want to do, or things that you want 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.360 to go and do, things of that nature. Well, I mean, 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.600 I've always been a very open person. So if I 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.399