Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of
Speaker 1: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now. Well, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I did it, but I finally did it. I have
Speaker 1: taken over the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. It is
Speaker 1: David Gascon right here courtesy of her Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 1: Studios here in the beautiful city of Los Angeles, and
Speaker 1: with Ben out and I come in, I get to
Speaker 1: plan the sandbox. I do so with the female companion.
Speaker 1: She's a member of the UFC. Ashley Evans Smith is
Speaker 1: in the house. Ashley, thanks for having me on. I
Speaker 1: know it was. It was kind of wild. We uh
Speaker 1: a little bit of background we uh. We connect did
Speaker 1: through a mutual colleague, and I had a conversation just
Speaker 1: about boxing and the UFC and mixed martial arts and
Speaker 1: all these things combined with with the way that the
Speaker 1: entertainment world is and it's one of the natures of
Speaker 1: the beast. With the UFC, they they have been really
Speaker 1: progressive and aggressive in terms of getting back out there
Speaker 1: and getting in front of fans, albeit without frands in
Speaker 1: the stands or fans and attendance. But they're doing so
Speaker 1: with events that are going on right now. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was fitting when a mutual contact of ours
Speaker 1: decided to introduce us and UH and he had some
Speaker 1: great things, some candid things to say about you, So
Speaker 1: it was great to obviously connect and then to have
Speaker 1: you on UM. I get to break the cardinal sin
Speaker 1: of a man to a woman here, so I get
Speaker 1: to do this with with a quick rundown. Because you
Speaker 1: are a fighter, you do compete in the UFC, So
Speaker 1: I get ask a couple of different things. We need
Speaker 1: the skin in the background on you because weight classes
Speaker 1: obviously you're involvement with the UFC, and then background wise,
Speaker 1: can you can you will sitting on the gaps a
Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah, I mean that's a pretty loaded question,
Speaker 1: but I'll try to make it short and suite. I
Speaker 1: originally from Northern California, wrestled on a boys tum high school,
Speaker 1: got a scholarship and wrestled for four years in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area at Menlo College. Was a part time All
Speaker 1: American there and from there I got into m M
Speaker 1: A and uh, I just loved it. You know, I
Speaker 1: had wrestled forever and it was the closest thing to wrestling,
Speaker 1: so I just took off with it. I was fighting
Speaker 1: like left and right as an amateur. Moved from the
Speaker 1: Bay Area down to Orange County I think two thousands,
Speaker 1: and like twelve or thirteens from around there went pro
Speaker 1: around that time. You know, um moved down to Orange
Speaker 1: County by myself, so had to really do the whole
Speaker 1: like struggle and make it on your own, make and
Speaker 1: meat type thing. But you know, I got a job
Speaker 1: and a little apartment and all that, and a thousand
Speaker 1: and fourteen, I got a last minute call, short notice
Speaker 1: call from the UFC to fill in for It was
Speaker 1: Holly Home at the time, and it was getting point,
Speaker 1: which is one thirty five and I was a flyweight
Speaker 1: in all managers. Sorry, I was a featherweight in all
Speaker 1: my amateur fights all through high school, all through college,
Speaker 1: and that's one forty five. So they called me and
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, basically ten pounds lighter but when
Speaker 1: the UFC calls me, don't say no. So I had
Speaker 1: racked up a record at that point of three, you know,
Speaker 1: as a professional, and I'm you know, nine amateur fights,
Speaker 1: which is not that much when you get into the UFC.
Speaker 1: We need, you know, get to the top level. You
Speaker 1: want to have you know a solid amount of professional
Speaker 1: fights so you feel nice and ready. But like I said,
Speaker 1: before the UFC calls, you don't say no and still
Speaker 1: cut the weight. And I've been fighting for the UFC
Speaker 1: ever since since to plus fourteen. And some stories when
Speaker 1: you when you got the call to was that from
Speaker 1: an agent or was that from the UFC directly? And
Speaker 1: when you received the call, did you think it was
Speaker 1: a prank? No, I knew it was real because I
Speaker 1: had done a some pretty cool things in the M
Speaker 1: M A world that last year. I had decided to
Speaker 1: take a high risk, high rewards fight out in Miami,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, everyone that I was gonna lose.
Speaker 1: I end up winning when a title out there, and
Speaker 1: so I kind of knew that call was coming. Not
Speaker 1: to be cocky, but um my name got put on
Speaker 1: the map with that fight, and so I knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna come I didn't know it was going to
Speaker 1: come so quickly after the fight, but yeah, I got
Speaker 1: the call from my manager who would lay the message,
Speaker 1: and I was really overweight at the time, but you know,
Speaker 1: I got on the treadmill and made the Wait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when when you mentioned the the wrestling aspect of your backgrounds,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to me because you always looked to to
Speaker 1: what got an individual involved in combat training. So was
Speaker 1: there anything or anybody that kind of pointed you in
Speaker 1: the direction of of wrestling back in the day when
Speaker 1: you were young in or was it just instinct on
Speaker 1: your own behalf that you want to compete and you
Speaker 1: wanted to to to wrestle against another individual, male or female.
Speaker 1: It was very unique in rare situation. I'm super lucky
Speaker 1: and grateful because no one asked me. I just took
Speaker 1: it as a Basically, my little brother who's a year
Speaker 1: younger than me, his friends, we were I was always
Speaker 1: a tomboy. I was always being up on, you know,
Speaker 1: him and his friends. And then one kid went away
Speaker 1: to military camp, came back and just like doubling you
Speaker 1: know me really hard. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: what is this And he was like, oh, don't worry.
Speaker 1: I wrestled now, but girls can't wrestle. And I'm like
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, and at that age, you know, you
Speaker 1: think you know everything. And I was like, I can wrestle.
Speaker 1: I'll show you. So I went out and joined the
Speaker 1: boys high school team and I got my ask beat
Speaker 1: for quite a while. But you know, I think it
Speaker 1: was my stubbornness that kept me in the sport. And
Speaker 1: then after I got my first ten, don't never forget.
Speaker 1: It was like a drug. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: want more of that, and I stuck with it and
Speaker 1: end up being a three time try state champion Washington, Oregon,
Speaker 1: California UM in high school, which led me to get
Speaker 1: a scholarship to go to Menlo College. And you know,
Speaker 1: it was like a drug after that. It was my
Speaker 1: favorite ing. I've never really had any other hobbies as
Speaker 1: a kid. I'm kind of just like a like a
Speaker 1: likeum be kind of from the little Girl. Really, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, because you're from Yukayah, correct, Yeah, small
Speaker 1: town in northern California. Yeah, that was the next question.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, where the fund is
Speaker 1: Yukaia because you find it you look at you look
Speaker 1: at a map and it's northern boots of California. So
Speaker 1: for you to come from Yukaya all the way down
Speaker 1: to Orange County, you know, you think about some of
Speaker 1: the UFC finds there different outskirts of the country. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Yukaiah is up in BFC in California. As those are parties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're trying to find out a map. Don't look too hard.
Speaker 1: Nothing special. You know, it's a great place if you're
Speaker 1: old or young, super young or super old, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a place to want to, you know, go
Speaker 1: to if you're in your early teens, thirty something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I I'm grateful that I wasn't in some
Speaker 1: kind of like metropolitan area because I probably would have
Speaker 1: gotten in more trouble. Because I actually got into quite
Speaker 1: a bit of trouble in my small town. So I'm
Speaker 1: imagining if I was somewhere, you know, with more trouble,
Speaker 1: I probably would have got more trouble. But yeah, here
Speaker 1: I am now in Orange County. You've been here for
Speaker 1: you know, a little under ten years or something like that,
Speaker 1: and you know, I love it. I love my family
Speaker 1: up in northern California. But as far as locations wise,
Speaker 1: I'm much rather to live in Orange County. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the thought process behind when you're engaged
Speaker 1: in talking to people about what you do as a career,
Speaker 1: do you feel that you empower women and men look
Speaker 1: down upon you or vice versa? No, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: I really I don't really know too much. Like I
Speaker 1: don't really know how I effect a specific individual or
Speaker 1: a specific group of people until they tell me. Um,
Speaker 1: And you don't really think about it. But then randomly
Speaker 1: you'll get a message, whether it's from a kid or
Speaker 1: a woman or even a man. And I've had everything,
Speaker 1: you know, all across the board, from a little kid
Speaker 1: that's like wow looking up to me, or a woman
Speaker 1: who's you know, I've given her um strength to pursue
Speaker 1: self defense because she felt she felt weak or something
Speaker 1: like that. Um. But what I actually I have not
Speaker 1: gone is I've never been told by a man that
Speaker 1: he looks down upon me for this. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're out there, you know. Misogyny is a thing,
Speaker 1: but I've been fortunate in the sense that the types
Speaker 1: of trolls and backlash I get are more so, you know,
Speaker 1: for it's not even backlash, it's like creepy guys like
Speaker 1: I want feat pictures or something like. That's pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: Well we'll get to that too, because there's some really
Speaker 1: interesting stuff that you're doing right now. Besides fine that, well,
Speaker 1: we'll definitely jump into Be sure to catch live editions
Speaker 1: of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern
Speaker 1: eleven p m Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. I'm kind of curious just on your
Speaker 1: thought process because we've had people made statements in the
Speaker 1: past about men fighting women, whether it's boxing or mixed
Speaker 1: martial arts um based on your weight class. Would you
Speaker 1: ever consider doing that? No, you know, I wrestled in
Speaker 1: high school against boys only because there was no girls team.
Speaker 1: I didn't think to myself, I'm better than any of
Speaker 1: these boys. I'm fully aware that men and women are
Speaker 1: built differentely, biologically, and that's just affects science, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that women can't do the same
Speaker 1: types of things that man can. But I definitely don't
Speaker 1: want to go against a man because I'm putting myself
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage and I wouldn't want any other woman
Speaker 1: to do that as well. Um, if old man and
Speaker 1: a woman both agree that that's what they want to do,
Speaker 1: all right, what are to you? Good? Luckily? You know,
Speaker 1: But I think I'll stick to finding my own gender.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been stuck on the streets and been
Speaker 1: called upon to use any of your training? Stuck is
Speaker 1: not the right word. What it's like, I said. When
Speaker 1: I was younger, I got into a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: frights and stuff like that. I grew up in like
Speaker 1: a punk rock community where you go to these like,
Speaker 1: you know, crazy small venues that everyone's stuffed inside. It's
Speaker 1: all sweaty and stinky, and you know, the band starts playing.
Speaker 1: The whole mosh pit goes around and you're pushing each
Speaker 1: other and someone gets pushed and they have got an
Speaker 1: ego and then also a fight breaks out and you're like, bro,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's lushing, you know, come down. And
Speaker 1: So I got into a lot of fifth fights as
Speaker 1: a as a teenager, and um, I loved it. That
Speaker 1: adrenaline rush was really it was really fun. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't I never thought I could make a career
Speaker 1: out of it. Um So I defin really loved him
Speaker 1: that since I've been doing what I loved for a
Speaker 1: long time, but I've never go ahead and I've never
Speaker 1: you know, when you say stuck. Um, Now that I'm older,
Speaker 1: I think got I'm a lot smarter. When you're younger,
Speaker 1: you know, you get put in a situation where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta fight this person. But when you're younger, you
Speaker 1: put your ego aside. You got more to lose, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty much after eighteen, you're an adult, so people compress
Speaker 1: charges all that. So you got to educate. You gotta
Speaker 1: be smart. Um, if you're a kid, you gotta be
Speaker 1: smart too, but there's less potential to be um get
Speaker 1: in trouble, I guess. Yeah. I mean, especially in today's
Speaker 1: day and age, where you got social media platforms. You
Speaker 1: get everyone with a cell phone and a camera. You
Speaker 1: make one bad decision, you're you're kind of game over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Speaking as social media, we had a chat earlier in
Speaker 1: the week about just the impact of it and uh,
Speaker 1: with our our past crossing. You know, one of the
Speaker 1: things that you have been uh, correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I think enamored with is the way that that social
Speaker 1: media is, especially in the podcasting world, Uh, you have
Speaker 1: a background in journalism, and you actually have veered off
Speaker 1: the beaten path a little bit with with the UFC
Speaker 1: and fighting, and you've kind of crafted your own podcast,
Speaker 1: asked if you will that has specific things you like
Speaker 1: to discuss. Um, we're gonna get into that a little bit,
Speaker 1: so can you elaborate a bit more? Yeah, so, you know,
Speaker 1: as you know, I'm known for I think my mark
Speaker 1: has been made as far as being a fighter, and
Speaker 1: not a lot of people do know that I have
Speaker 1: a degree in journalism. I love being on camera, you know,
Speaker 1: not like, oh, the spotlight is on me, but more
Speaker 1: so I enjoy doing what you're doing right now. I
Speaker 1: enjoy interviewing people people, I enjoy getting to know someone,
Speaker 1: listening to all the different stories and all that. And
Speaker 1: podcasting is really big right now. It's been pretty big
Speaker 1: for the last few years. Um, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: Joe Rogat, you know, Spotify buying JeOS podcast is like
Speaker 1: really open to everybody's eyes because how much money he's
Speaker 1: making in the next few years. But um, I've known
Speaker 1: it's been a growing medium for quite a while. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I never thought I really had
Speaker 1: anything special, Meaning you know, what what was I going
Speaker 1: to do? Was I gonna talk about fighting? Well, there's
Speaker 1: so many mm A podcasts, what was gonna set me apart?
Speaker 1: And so I kind of combined two things that I
Speaker 1: love and that's uh, you know, m m A. And
Speaker 1: then the other topic would be dating relationships, sex and
Speaker 1: so the podcast is called Sex and Violence with Rebel Girl.
Speaker 1: Rebel Girls my fight nickname, so if you guys don't know,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, second violence is Revel Girl as a
Speaker 1: podcast where I interview top level mm A fighters. So
Speaker 1: far in all UFC fighters UM either active or retired.
Speaker 1: UM today later today will be my third episode with
Speaker 1: a couple, so it'll be my first time interviewing two
Speaker 1: fighters at once. And we just talked about everything across
Speaker 1: the board. UM that untail's love, dating, relationships, romance and
Speaker 1: even sex and so it could be pretty pgs. You know.
Speaker 1: I had a Sam Alvie, he's a current actor light
Speaker 1: heavyweight fighter in the UFC. He talked about his marriage,
Speaker 1: he talked about adopting his kids, and you know, I
Speaker 1: tried to dig deep for the dirt, but sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just not there. But the first episode, we had former
Speaker 1: UFC fighter hyweight Ian McCall uncle Creepy and if his
Speaker 1: nickname doesn't explain how the podcast episode went, then you
Speaker 1: gotta listen to it because he's just an interesting man
Speaker 1: who you know, talked about mushrooms for about half an
Speaker 1: hour before we got into three sums with Chuck the Bell.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get everything across the board. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get the married guy, and then you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: single guy. You're gonna get the you know, the couple
Speaker 1: that's going to be on this episode. And it's just
Speaker 1: for me, in my opinion, a way to humanize the fighters.
Speaker 1: You know, when you get to a certain notoriety or
Speaker 1: uh popularity level, right, whether it's fighters or I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you'd be experience this right your a podcast host. Um,
Speaker 1: people tend to be humanize you and think that they
Speaker 1: can say whatever they want, things that they would never
Speaker 1: say in public peer faith, especially an average person to
Speaker 1: a professional fighter. But I guess in my my hopes
Speaker 1: of doing this, you know, A got many hopes. You know,
Speaker 1: I love doing this, but number one, number two, I
Speaker 1: think it's great to give the fighters like myself and
Speaker 1: my colleagues another platform to express who they are. And lastly,
Speaker 1: to help you know, regular people, the listeners, the fans
Speaker 1: of followers, humanize these fighters and know that we all
Speaker 1: came from the same place at one point. We've all
Speaker 1: got some awkward loss of our virginity story, We've all
Speaker 1: got some weird dating catfish story and or you know,
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And I'm really hoping that it
Speaker 1: catches fire because I think that sometimes people are just
Speaker 1: seen as like a like fighters, like dance monkey dance,
Speaker 1: like monkey in the cage kind of right, But in
Speaker 1: all actuality, we're all humans and we're all the same.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two am eastern pm Pacific. I had
Speaker 1: a question for you, and it totally was thrown off
Speaker 1: by what you just said. Um, what was your awkward
Speaker 1: way of losing your virginity? Oh man, my host, total
Speaker 1: like technical statutory rape, total awkward. It was like I
Speaker 1: was fifteen and this guy I never forget, like you
Speaker 1: know those guys he was nineteen fifteen, nineteen, not good
Speaker 1: but or a statory rape probably yeah, yeah, good story. Okay,
Speaker 1: so little forget this guy because I was like I
Speaker 1: had such a crush on him at the time, when
Speaker 1: you're fifteen, you look at this guy like he's nineteen.
Speaker 1: He's like smoking cigarettes, and he's like he's one of
Speaker 1: those like BMX guys, like total dirtbags, such a dirt bag.
Speaker 1: And I just lost it in like a shitty like uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: like I even cried afterwards. It was not a good story.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, not a good story. Not a
Speaker 1: good start to my my sex life. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: so after the end, did you did you go to
Speaker 1: the authorities? Did you go to any friends any? No? No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't like a thing that I
Speaker 1: didn't want, you know. I think unfortunately young girls and
Speaker 1: young guys they don't see the potential harm in being
Speaker 1: sexual with someone far past their own age. You know,
Speaker 1: you just see you look, you look to older people
Speaker 1: as like, oh like this, you know this, you know,
Speaker 1: almost like godlike figure, you know, an older guy or
Speaker 1: a guys sometimes like an older woman, but in all actuality,
Speaker 1: it's creepy as hell. You know, the older person needs
Speaker 1: to know that that's wrong, and they don't always do that.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not a perfect world, but um, I wasn't
Speaker 1: upset about it. I just I cried in the sense
Speaker 1: that it was like, you know, fifteen year old girls
Speaker 1: awkward and you're like, oh, this is not what I expected.
Speaker 1: And then and then after that was a game on
Speaker 1: for you once you hit Once you got into college, Uh,
Speaker 1: it was like sporadic, like I have like a boyfriend here,
Speaker 1: boyfriend there, you know, and college was actually I was.
Speaker 1: I was a really good girl in college. I m
Speaker 1: partied so hard from like fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen, UM,
Speaker 1: gone to a lot of trouble, went to Jusie when
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, almost lost my scholarship to wrestle. Because
Speaker 1: I know, it sounds crazy. Stabbed the guy when I
Speaker 1: was drinking with some friends. You stabbed the guy. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, where the fund did you stab him? And
Speaker 1: where were you guys for you to stab him? I know,
Speaker 1: just so weird. I got a weird little background story,
Speaker 1: but it all. You know, it sounds so corny, But
Speaker 1: I'm happy that these things happened when I was younger,
Speaker 1: because if they happened later in life, like I just
Speaker 1: talked about, like past eighteen, I could have been some
Speaker 1: serious time. And then the whole course of my life.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have went to college. I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: a good girl in college because of this. But I'll
Speaker 1: get to the story. I know you want to hear it.
Speaker 1: So what happened was seventeens, a couple of months before graduation.
Speaker 1: We're all drinking and party and all this little punk rockers. Um.
Speaker 1: I got a pocket knife in my pocket because I'd
Speaker 1: gone into a fight with this girl a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks before, and because like, oh, she's out there, she's
Speaker 1: gonna stab you. She's telling people she's going to find
Speaker 1: you and stab you. Someone gave me a pocket knife
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't need to use this. Well.
Speaker 1: Fast forward. We're drinking, I'm blacked out drunk. It's you know,
Speaker 1: not a good not a good scene. I end up
Speaker 1: into a fight with a girl and as I'm getting
Speaker 1: pulled off, um of this girl that I'm fighting, I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't recall, but it was told later
Speaker 1: that I end up stabbing the person that was trying
Speaker 1: to help the situation, try to pull me off, and
Speaker 1: you know, um, he survived. You know, I stabbed him
Speaker 1: in the side kind of like a little love handle. Area,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's what saved him because he only had
Speaker 1: to get butterfly stitches. He was fine, and I went
Speaker 1: to Julie for a few months, almost off my scholarship,
Speaker 1: but the judge was really great. She let me out
Speaker 1: with a continuency situation where I had to return home
Speaker 1: and serve the remainder of my time on my Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and Christmas break. So my first year of college not
Speaker 1: the smoothest, but um, never the less. That's why I
Speaker 1: was sober. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific.
Speaker 1: What uh, well, I mean, obviously you've you've definitely matured,
Speaker 1: as they would say, um from there on. But when
Speaker 1: and you get involved in something like that, obviously you're
Speaker 1: scared shitless and now obviously you're trying to redeem yourself
Speaker 1: when you got into college. But um, are you now?
Speaker 1: Are you married or you have a boyfriend, or are
Speaker 1: you involved with anybody now? Because you talk about what
Speaker 1: you're doing outside the scope of the cage, talking about
Speaker 1: like sex and fighting and whatnot. So I'm curious as
Speaker 1: to if you're having that conversation with a significant other
Speaker 1: now about sex and things that you've done, or things
Speaker 1: that you want to do, or things that you want
Speaker 1: to go and do, things of that nature. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've always been a very open person. So if I
Speaker 1: whoever I was dating at the time, I had no
Speaker 1: problem talking about communicating, you know, what I wanted or
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do or didn't want to do. Um.
Speaker 1: And when I started this podcast, when I first had
Speaker 1: the idea of the podcast, I was single. This is
Speaker 1: probably like, um, you know, six seven months ago something
Speaker 1: like that. And I thought to myself, oh, man, I've
Speaker 1: got such a pressora of embarrassing, awkward, ridiculously funny dating
Speaker 1: stories through my you know, I'm thirty two, so I
Speaker 1: lost my Virginia at fifteen. You know, I've got all
Speaker 1: those years of dating, you know, all those stories. And
Speaker 1: then I thought to myself, this is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I'm going to interview these people. I'm going to relate
Speaker 1: to them, and I tell a little bit about my experiences.
Speaker 1: And then I then I got into a relationship. And
Speaker 1: you know, not to sound completely corny, but the relationship
Speaker 1: I'm in right now is by far the healthiest relationship
Speaker 1: I've ever been in and before I started the podcast,
Speaker 1: I had that conversation with him. I'm like, look, it's
Speaker 1: not your average job, but I'm not a stripper, I'm
Speaker 1: not a prosecute but I am going to be talking
Speaker 1: to people about, you know, sex and these subjects that
Speaker 1: are not talked about in society regularly. But he's a
Speaker 1: great guy. He understands that, you know, just because I'm
Speaker 1: talking about sex doesn't mean I'm doing sex with these people.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, it just it's a job, you know,
Speaker 1: And um, I still am going to relate to these people.
Speaker 1: I'm still going to throw in little tidbits of my
Speaker 1: past life and stuff like that. So nothing really changed
Speaker 1: except I'm not a single woman, and I won't be
Speaker 1: able to like, let's say, if I'm interviewing you and
Speaker 1: you're single, I'll be like, yeah, me too. I'll be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship right now. But that's not going
Speaker 1: to take away from anything. I don't think. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like, with your experience in the dating world and
Speaker 1: the environment that you're in, that you're kind of desensitized
Speaker 1: to two stories nowadays? No, not at all. I think
Speaker 1: that I've heard a lot of different stories, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actually a listener of quote unquote sex podcasts.
Speaker 1: The podcast that gave me the idea for my podcast
Speaker 1: is called sex Um. It's called Guys the Funk, and
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a podcast were two comedians, Christina Hutchinson
Speaker 1: and Corin Fisher, their New York comedians. They bring on
Speaker 1: different people, whether it's a psychologist or another comedian friend
Speaker 1: and they interview them. And obviously it's funny if there's
Speaker 1: their comedians, there's other comedians that are on there. But
Speaker 1: it's really informative as well. So I'm always kind of
Speaker 1: like listening about like sexual education and like dating and
Speaker 1: keeping myself up to date with these types of things.
Speaker 1: I do not consider myself any type of expert um
Speaker 1: by any means, And I'm not I'm not saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I listened to all these podcasts so I'm Joe smart. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like, um, I listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of different stories, and I try to kind of
Speaker 1: keep myself educated on you know, the new what's new
Speaker 1: in dating and relationships and sexual education, and so when
Speaker 1: I hear stories, I think sometimes like I become descentral tized,
Speaker 1: but I really haven't, you know. I talked to Ian
Speaker 1: mcaul the other day and boom me through throughout how
Speaker 1: he was having sex with other other men's wives because
Speaker 1: they asked him too, And I'm just like, wha, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's the thing. But it's still when you
Speaker 1: hear it, it never gets less shocking. You're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing you forgot. What's the wildest thing you've
Speaker 1: ever done? The last thing I've ever done? That's a
Speaker 1: switch through the memories here. One question I asked some
Speaker 1: of the guests I've had so far is like, you know,
Speaker 1: where's the craziest place in public that you've had sex?
Speaker 1: And I realized with myself, like I haven't even really
Speaker 1: had sex in like a crazy public place or anything.
Speaker 1: Um wildest thing, you know, you know, it's not super crazy,
Speaker 1: But I went to a sex club one time, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what I was getting myself into.
Speaker 1: I just moved out of southern California as pretty knew
Speaker 1: kind of like um nor cal kind of red nicky.
Speaker 1: Still like still haven't Like I wasn't really into the
Speaker 1: Orange County culture or anything like that. And a brand
Speaker 1: new friend, and I made said, hey, come to this party,
Speaker 1: and that's all he said. He just said, dress sexy.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was weird. You know, Okay, don't
Speaker 1: I dress sexy when I go out anyway? And he's like,
Speaker 1: look as dressed as sexy as you can, and you'll
Speaker 1: still be the most dressed person. I'm the most overdressed person.
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, well, that's weird. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know what he meant. And I show up to
Speaker 1: this warehouse and he walks me inside and there's just
Speaker 1: naked people, you know, half naked people. There's rooms upstairs
Speaker 1: where people are having sex. And I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is not the party I expected. And that just
Speaker 1: being there was an experience in itself, and now it's
Speaker 1: pretty wild. That is crazy. I have a I have
Speaker 1: a good buddy of mine that I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've heard of this place, but he would, you'd be
Speaker 1: a frequent visitor of two places in this world, Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and Amsterdam and uh. And he told me about
Speaker 1: a place that he would frequently visit called the Green
Speaker 1: Door and the Green Doors in in Las Vegas, and
Speaker 1: basically it's a it's a club kind of like how
Speaker 1: you described the warehouse where you'll go in and people
Speaker 1: men and women will watch other people have sex. They Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've actually heard of that. I was talking. I was
Speaker 1: at the h the uf c P. I actually was
Speaker 1: getting some work on my shoulder. Um, we were just
Speaker 1: kind of chopping it up in the rehab the center,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how it got brought up, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm always talking about interesting things, so
Speaker 1: I might have had something to do with it. But
Speaker 1: they brought up the Green Door, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't live there, but I travel out there periodically.
Speaker 1: And I was like, is that really a thing or
Speaker 1: is it a myth? And everyone was like, no, it's
Speaker 1: a thing. And also you've been there, Like no, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well until I know someone up actually been there, you know,
Speaker 1: because how do you know? Right? That's exactly so. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Have you been to Amsterdam? I have not. I would
Speaker 1: love to go sometimes, you know, I went. I went
Speaker 1: a year ago to go visit a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: who was celebrating his fortieth birthday and he he lives
Speaker 1: out in Europe, but was not able to visit us
Speaker 1: when we were in Amsterdam. So another buddy of mine
Speaker 1: who was out there already, he was visiting some some
Speaker 1: family in Croatia. Um I was in France for middles
Speaker 1: in Paris. We just said, hey, let's let's meet up
Speaker 1: and let's go to Amsterdam. So we spent three days
Speaker 1: in Amsterdam. And my buddy's loose. He's very loose, he's
Speaker 1: very open. He just kind of does kind of goes
Speaker 1: to the flow. And I don't want to say I'm
Speaker 1: Morgan's servative, but I guess I'm a little more cautious. Um.
Speaker 1: But we both air on the set of cautions. So
Speaker 1: it's not like for Cavalier with anything. But he's he's
Speaker 1: definitely an influence for me as much as I'm an
Speaker 1: influence for him. But it takes one to get the
Speaker 1: other one going. Um. But he's definitely a guy that
Speaker 1: likes to to dab a little bit. And uh, he's
Speaker 1: a big, big beer guy. So you know, when we
Speaker 1: got to Amsterdam, we were trying out like a bunch
Speaker 1: of different beers and going to a few different places.
Speaker 1: But um, when we were renting out airbnb s or hostiles.
Speaker 1: The hostile that he actually rented out for us was
Speaker 1: on the on the cusp of the red light district,
Speaker 1: So we had no idea. He didn't know, I didn't know,
Speaker 1: and you know, you hear stories about the red light district.
Speaker 1: And then the first night that we got there, we
Speaker 1: walked around and and I could not, like, you know,
Speaker 1: being in Los Angeles, for being in Orange County, or
Speaker 1: being in southern California for that matter, You're around beautiful
Speaker 1: people all the time, women, men, whoever it may be,
Speaker 1: with your preference. But I was completely floored by the
Speaker 1: way that these women look because they were like, there's
Speaker 1: no such thing as attended, my opinion, but goddamn, everyone
Speaker 1: looked like a nine, a nine and a half at
Speaker 1: nine point nine. It was absolutely wild. And a couple
Speaker 1: of the nights that we were there, it started raining
Speaker 1: a little bit, and how everyone was in their little
Speaker 1: I don't want to say shack, but they're obviously display windows.
Speaker 1: God forbid you got underneath the awning and try to
Speaker 1: cover yourself from the rain because they be banging on
Speaker 1: the window and like telling you get the funk out
Speaker 1: of the way, and like move and move and move,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's wild. It's like a straight up business
Speaker 1: and it is you know, from night today it is
Speaker 1: completely different. But um, you ever get the chance to
Speaker 1: to head out there, I would deathly recommend to, uh
Speaker 1: to soak up as much as you can with Amsterdam
Speaker 1: because the scene is great all the way around from
Speaker 1: sixty degrees. So that's awesome. I thought in Germany in
Speaker 1: Hamburg and there was this place called the Rooper Bob
Speaker 1: and we went out drinking after my fight. It was
Speaker 1: a really good fight and we're all happy and on
Speaker 1: my coaches and you know, we were told we didn't
Speaker 1: see much, um, but we were told that like women
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to go down certain streets and those streets
Speaker 1: were where prostitutes were, and like the for some reason,
Speaker 1: like the men that were buying the prostitutes didn't want
Speaker 1: to see regular women or something like that. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, interesting, like alright, couch of different countries,
Speaker 1: like different strokes for different countries, you know, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: to reach their own that's interesting. Now, different parts of
Speaker 1: Europe have you been to or is it just you've
Speaker 1: been to Hamburg and that's it. I've do uh seven
Speaker 1: different countries in Europe, but not well not I went
Speaker 1: to seven different countries in Europe this past year for
Speaker 1: a military tour. But that was like like wham bamdbanking
Speaker 1: man like fly in, like teach to the troops from
Speaker 1: the mats to do some signings, watched the fights with them,
Speaker 1: and then boom here to the next country. So it
Speaker 1: was like Norway, Turkey, Greece, Italy, Romania, Kosovo, oh Man
Speaker 1: one more. Um, I'm forgetting one Romania anyway. But they
Speaker 1: were all great places, but I didn't get it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a what's it called, like somebody
Speaker 1: kind of like on us the whole time, like watching
Speaker 1: a babysitter basically like a military babysitter. So we didn't
Speaker 1: really get to see the city or anything like that. Um,
Speaker 1: but I could tell that certain countries, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you know, probably won't be going back to Kosovo anytime
Speaker 1: so in the party, but I would love to go
Speaker 1: back to Greece, in Italy and even Turkey was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Have you been to any of the Asian markets? At all, China, Japan, Philippines,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Actually, know what about let's go back
Speaker 1: a little bit because I know you said something interesting
Speaker 1: with the way that your experience has been. But now
Speaker 1: you're you're currently in the most uh, You're in the
Speaker 1: healthiest relationship you've ever been in. Um. What makes that
Speaker 1: relationship healthy? I'd say like two things. Communication and the
Speaker 1: ability to put your ego aside. And you know that
Speaker 1: that's gonna need to take place on both sides. If
Speaker 1: you have one side doing that, then it's just a
Speaker 1: dominant the missive type relationship where one person probably always
Speaker 1: but you know, taking one for the team, biting their
Speaker 1: lip or you know whatever. UM. And then if you
Speaker 1: have both, then that's where a really good symbiotic relationship happens,
Speaker 1: where if something comes up, some kind of argument, some
Speaker 1: kind of dispute, you know, you can talk about it
Speaker 1: and communicate and both put your ego aside. Because me,
Speaker 1: one of my biggest downfalls that I'm quick to get angry,
Speaker 1: quick to defend myself, and and that's not good because
Speaker 1: especially with your partner, they obviously love you or you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not into at that stage, what
Speaker 1: they care about you, and they want the best. So
Speaker 1: if you have that ability to just stay calm not
Speaker 1: get heated, which is something I'm personally just now. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like all my relationships in the past were
Speaker 1: bad because of them. I'm taking a lot of responsibility
Speaker 1: as well. Take me a long time to self reflect
Speaker 1: and realize that, you know, a lot of the things
Speaker 1: in my life that have gone wrong most likely were
Speaker 1: my own fault. And so now that I have that
Speaker 1: kind of like newfound mindset, I've met a partner who
Speaker 1: also has that mindset, and I'm just like, oh, thank you, Bever,
Speaker 1: Jerry's was fine, little like because I just was tired
Speaker 1: of the fighting and tired of the nonsense. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thirty two, so young in life, maybe
Speaker 1: old sort of a fighter, but I'm tool for that ship,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. How old do you think you'll be
Speaker 1: when you retire. I've definitely got another solid, you know,
Speaker 1: three to five years, and me, I don't think i'll
Speaker 1: be you know, punching faces at forty. But you never know.
Speaker 1: I've never had surgery, never had any major injuries. I've
Speaker 1: had to pull out of two fights. Unfortunately, Um I
Speaker 1: like had a torn mc L and then I had
Speaker 1: a torrent recently the last year, I did a an
Speaker 1: armspin wrestling move and toward my upper pack and shoulder area.
Speaker 1: But no surgeries. I got stem cells and any other
Speaker 1: one just needed a lot of rehab. So you know,
Speaker 1: from fifteen years old wrestling on a high school team,
Speaker 1: college wrestling to professional fighting, that's pretty good if those
Speaker 1: are the only major injuries and still no surgeries. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, I can see myself at most
Speaker 1: another five years. But I've been in the sport for
Speaker 1: quite a while and I'm feeling really good now. Like
Speaker 1: I said, with my new found kind of mindset, nothing
Speaker 1: physically has changed. It's my mindset. But as we don't
Speaker 1: know for our eight percent mental or seventy year or
Speaker 1: whatever I say. Right, So, when you can like hone
Speaker 1: in on your on your mental game and your emotional game,
Speaker 1: I think especially for women, that's when you really start
Speaker 1: to see, you know, everything I said before synergy where
Speaker 1: everything starts to come together, because you can be the
Speaker 1: best athlete physically, but if your mind's not right, you're
Speaker 1: not going to go far at all. And this past
Speaker 1: here a lot of things have changed for me mentally,
Speaker 1: and so now I can't wait to start, you know,
Speaker 1: fighting um consistently because you know my mind's right and
Speaker 1: you know, you know I am in the later stages
Speaker 1: of my career. So it's like, all right, it's now
Speaker 1: we're never bit a vote. Yeah, you said back when
Speaker 1: you first started wrestling that it was like a drug,
Speaker 1: it was a rush. Um. Does it feel the same
Speaker 1: for you now when you get into the cage? Oh?
Speaker 1: Even more so. Wrestling was great, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: like teammates and and all that, and you know all
Speaker 1: you know, ashly Evan Smith's on Evan Smith in the hole.
Speaker 1: But with fighting, like, you'll never understand the amazing feeling
Speaker 1: it is to fight on a professional level until you've
Speaker 1: been backstage in your hands are apped, until you've made
Speaker 1: that walk through the tunnel and here at the crowd
Speaker 1: sheering and the stand shaking, until you've walked out and
Speaker 1: the lights are shining and you're the fall you pick
Speaker 1: is playing full blast in the arena and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean, I don't know if all
Speaker 1: the listeners have gotten high, but you're kind of high.
Speaker 1: It's just like there's kind of like feeling of like
Speaker 1: serenity but also like your heart is racing as fast
Speaker 1: as it can go, and so it's serene, but it's
Speaker 1: also scary as sucking hell, and that's adrenaline, you know.
Speaker 1: So you get to the cage and you're scared, but
Speaker 1: you're but you're excited and and then you start fighting.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, all that goes away as soon
Speaker 1: as the first punch is thrown. And then I kind
Speaker 1: of think into that you know, the zone or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to you know, um that that that's comfortable, familiar,
Speaker 1: you know, you know kind of treating that I do
Speaker 1: every single day, day and day out for years and
Speaker 1: years and years. So it's hard to explain, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be heartbroken the day I quote on
Speaker 1: foot like hang up my globes or retire or whatever,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I would love to go into media, whether
Speaker 1: it's on camera or podcasting and all these other different
Speaker 1: things on doing movies now small roles. Um, it's never
Speaker 1: gonna be like fiving. Yeah, I remember, it wasn't fortunate
Speaker 1: like you to to compete at the professional level, but
Speaker 1: I I the aspirations of of competing at the professional
Speaker 1: level as a football player, and so I grew up
Speaker 1: in a small town and went to an extremely small
Speaker 1: high school. I think like the graduating class that I
Speaker 1: was in was like seventy two kids, but oh wow,
Speaker 1: you beat me. Yeah, I felt like it was a
Speaker 1: big fish in a small pond. But I didn't get
Speaker 1: the type of exposure that that kids do now with
Speaker 1: social media and the different networks covering high school sports.
Speaker 1: So I had to go to a junior college to
Speaker 1: get any kind of opportunity to get any kind of
Speaker 1: looks and so kind of going back to you and
Speaker 1: having your your hands wrapped. I was always nervous. It
Speaker 1: didn't matter, Like I felt like when I compete at
Speaker 1: the high school level, I was the best player in
Speaker 1: the field. And then when I got to the college level,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was still not the best, but
Speaker 1: I knew like I was going up against the best.
Speaker 1: So I had to be like an a a level
Speaker 1: all the time. And you know, despite your wearing pads
Speaker 1: in a helmet and having speed or or muscle or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I was always I was always nervous, Like getting
Speaker 1: at islands to the field, you hear the crowd, you
Speaker 1: know what's at stake. You see someone that's barreling down
Speaker 1: on you that's like six two or six three and
Speaker 1: two pounds. But then after I absorbed the first hit,
Speaker 1: then it's game on. It's like everything just gets sucked
Speaker 1: into that vacuum and then you get focused like a
Speaker 1: like a horse going down the track. You know, you
Speaker 1: have those those blinders on. You just think about, this
Speaker 1: is my objective. And that was the I know you're
Speaker 1: not there now, but for me, that has always stuck
Speaker 1: in me because I always have flashbacks to certain plays. Well,
Speaker 1: there was a big hit, a good catch, a nice tackle,
Speaker 1: and but that engagement of competing, because that's the ultimate
Speaker 1: testament to not only you as an individual, but the
Speaker 1: work and the prep and the training that you and
Speaker 1: your camp put in. And and I was like that
Speaker 1: on the football field. And you know they always say
Speaker 1: that practices should be harder than the games, and and
Speaker 1: they certainly were. And you know, once that goes from you, like,
Speaker 1: you can never get that kind of a rush back.
Speaker 1: And so I yeah, I mean you you said, you know,
Speaker 1: three or four or five years away from retiring, it's
Speaker 1: it's great that you know that that's there. And at
Speaker 1: the same time, you had that sense of urgency, not
Speaker 1: pressured to make sure you put your foot on the
Speaker 1: gas now and not and not hold anything back because
Speaker 1: you never know when that last fight is going to
Speaker 1: be your last fight. Yeah, they're right, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not happy with my my record. I'm sixing
Speaker 1: for it right now, and I'm definitely not happy with
Speaker 1: the amount of fights I fight per year. And it
Speaker 1: seems like as soon as I get my shipped together,
Speaker 1: something happens. And you know, COVID nineteen is a perfect
Speaker 1: example of how like I said, this year with my
Speaker 1: mentality being on point, and then like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: literally in London about to fight and they tell me
Speaker 1: to come home and then yeah, so it's just like
Speaker 1: I feel like life's been kind of asshole to me
Speaker 1: in in a few ways. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I have to be extremely grateful for the opportunities that
Speaker 1: I have. Like, obviously I will fight it, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm right now it's tentative end of July, but with
Speaker 1: everything going on, COVID still it's kind of up in
Speaker 1: the air. But you know, yeah, it's pedals in the
Speaker 1: metal time. It's time to focus in the only thing
Speaker 1: that matters to me is winning my fight, in securing
Speaker 1: my future. You mentioned July what happens, if what happens,
Speaker 1: if you fight on July nine, Uh, then that would
Speaker 1: be awesome. But I do I feel like fortunately, I'm
Speaker 1: I do very very well under pressure. So you know,
Speaker 1: July nine is my birthday and I happen to do.
Speaker 1: It's your birthday too, So if I was to fight,
Speaker 1: I think that would just be one more you know,
Speaker 1: not a lot of pressure, but just you know, one
Speaker 1: more thing that would would make it. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I would want to win for one more reason, right,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, bring it on. I would fight on
Speaker 1: my birthday. It would fight on Christmas. I don't care,
Speaker 1: no kidding, right, Yeah, It's it's funny we we share
Speaker 1: the same birthday, July nine. We also share it with
Speaker 1: a couple other people. One of them is Tom Hanks,
Speaker 1: which is our which is the one that we're proud of.
Speaker 1: The other one's O J sibsence. So it's kind kind
Speaker 1: of wild, right, get thee from from both ends with
Speaker 1: that kind of bipolar dynamic with the birthdate. Um, do
Speaker 1: you haven't regret? Do you have any regrets as a fighter?
Speaker 1: Like anything? That you have or haven't done that you
Speaker 1: just like eats at you internally as a fighter. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not really. I used to a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: I had this mentality. I don't know what you would
Speaker 1: call it, but me and Rhonda Rousey were on the
Speaker 1: same amateur card in Las Vegas, and then, you know,
Speaker 1: I look at my career and then look at her career,
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of like comparing myself to her,
Speaker 1: you know, like, damn, you know, how come I couldn't
Speaker 1: have done this or this or this or this? But
Speaker 1: like I wiped all that a way, because you know,
Speaker 1: you can never compare yourself to someone Else's a journey, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people were helping her. I
Speaker 1: know how many people weren't helping me. So instead of
Speaker 1: looking at her life and comparing my life and going, oh,
Speaker 1: I could have could have could have look at my
Speaker 1: own life, and instead of comparing myself to someone else,
Speaker 1: I think of that little girl in Yukaiah who little
Speaker 1: like dumpy girl just started wrestling and then now here
Speaker 1: I am. So that's a way better comparison. You start
Speaker 1: feeling a lot better about yourself, and it's a positive mindset.
Speaker 1: So I don't regret anything because there's no there's no
Speaker 1: no benefits in regrets. Right, you can learn lessons and
Speaker 1: you can say, you know what, I see what I did.
Speaker 1: There molple smartists and I've got plenty of those, But
Speaker 1: I have no regrets, absolutely not one. Well that being said,
Speaker 1: do you think why do you think people were helping
Speaker 1: her and not helping you? Um, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean she had maybe a different, um family financial situation,
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I have no parents, had no you know,
Speaker 1: I had to put myself through college and um we
Speaker 1: were wouldn't have the most money and when I was
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, and so I've take take
Speaker 1: care of myself completely financially, especially since you know college,
Speaker 1: um and even in my kind of in my high
Speaker 1: school years as well. So I mean that could have
Speaker 1: been a factor, you know what I mean. She made
Speaker 1: it to the Olympic team before she got into in
Speaker 1: the may, so she had that kind of notoriety behind her.
Speaker 1: And when people hear that, they want to help someone
Speaker 1: because they keep potential and rightfully, so, um, I just
Speaker 1: kind of had a little bit of wrestling background and
Speaker 1: was tenacious, so it doesn't really matter, but there's there's
Speaker 1: definitely people have their own paths in different journeys and
Speaker 1: and I'm I think I never once. I think the
Speaker 1: only time I ever said anything bad about Rhonda was
Speaker 1: when she was a real cour sport to Misia Tate,
Speaker 1: just because you know, I'm not saying I'm the best
Speaker 1: role model, um, but I mean shake, shake the woman's hand,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, don't flip her off
Speaker 1: in the cave either, though I don't know. It was
Speaker 1: just you know, And now she's in w w E,
Speaker 1: and I think that's smart. I think she made a
Speaker 1: great move. We can't fight forever, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: her body probably thinks they're not saying it's easy over there,
Speaker 1: but I think she'll probably have a lot more longevity
Speaker 1: um during WWE than than the A. Do you think
Speaker 1: she's a fraud fraud in what sense? Well, I think
Speaker 1: the I think the perception is is that when she
Speaker 1: got the notary that she did through the UFC, she
Speaker 1: wasn't fighting the best the best, and you know, she
Speaker 1: didn't fight Cyborg and not until Holly Holm got the
Speaker 1: better herd did she suffered defeat. And that was when
Speaker 1: people felt like she finally competed against someone that was
Speaker 1: to her level. Um, and then no, definitely not no.
Speaker 1: I mean if you're if you're talking in terms of
Speaker 1: competition level, I think she's not fraud. She she went
Speaker 1: out there, she did her things, She won fights. The
Speaker 1: great thing about en them a compared to w w
Speaker 1: E Z No, it's not stage. She went in there
Speaker 1: and she thought those girls that she won, and she
Speaker 1: beat them. She won. Whether it was by seventeen armbar
Speaker 1: you know, or or whatever, doesn't, it doesn't matter. She
Speaker 1: beat those girls. Um, you know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that she you know, I don't think she was
Speaker 1: going to be side works and I don't obviously you know,
Speaker 1: Holly took her out and all that. But I would
Speaker 1: I definite wouldn't call her a fraud. I know she
Speaker 1: also gets the last fruit me because she went over
Speaker 1: to w w E. But why, you know, why would
Speaker 1: you take someone's career choice apart when the sport that
Speaker 1: we do is so physically taxing on her body and
Speaker 1: her brain? You know, I mean the girl, the girl
Speaker 1: probably just doesn't want to have fergusons when she's older.
Speaker 1: You know, it takes a toll on us and so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think she's a fraud. I think
Speaker 1: there's definitely things she could have done better, um once
Speaker 1: she was in the spotlight. But we've all made mistakes, right,
Speaker 1: you have no doubt about it. Uh. Speaking of mistakes,
Speaker 1: we're trying to make any on social media. But you know,
Speaker 1: for the listeners out there that do want to follow
Speaker 1: you your journey, things that you do and maybe even
Speaker 1: dip into the dark side of your podcast, Um, where
Speaker 1: can they find you on social media? Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, whatever? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my personal page is Ashley m m A and Ashley
Speaker 1: A s h L E. M m A. And my podcast,
Speaker 1: which I know you are all dying to listen to
Speaker 1: because you all are probably naughty. Sex and Violence with
Speaker 1: Rebel Girls kind of a long name. It's all spelt
Speaker 1: out Sex and Violence with Rebel Girl. And that's a
Speaker 1: that that Instagram account has a link to the podcast
Speaker 1: in the bio so you can clip there. But we're
Speaker 1: also on Apple, on Spotify already, um, and a couple
Speaker 1: other major ones we're working on, you know, being on
Speaker 1: all the major platforms. But pretty proud of myself were
Speaker 1: only having two episodes and recording a third one tonight, nice. Nice. Now,
Speaker 1: is that your goal to do something at least once
Speaker 1: a week or do some thing maybe four or five
Speaker 1: times a month, like, what's your what's your idea behind it? Now?
Speaker 1: Since the since we still got the coronavirus, the goal
Speaker 1: definitely set you off. The goal definitely is I'd say
Speaker 1: two we could be ideal, just because I feel like
Speaker 1: there are so many interesting stories out there, but for sure,
Speaker 1: what one a week as as long as I'm you know,
Speaker 1: competing in m M A. Because as we all know,
Speaker 1: you can be a jack of all trades and a
Speaker 1: master of none, and that's not what I want to do.
Speaker 1: My first goal, person of foremost will always be my
Speaker 1: training and my fight. So, you know, unfortunately, let's say
Speaker 1: I have a fight books in late July, you know,
Speaker 1: not unfortunately for me, but unfortunate, let's say for the listeners,
Speaker 1: I won't be able to put out you know, like
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom. So I'm going to try.
Speaker 1: You know, my producer, Rick Lee and I have talked
Speaker 1: about kind of stacking the episodes, you know, doing a
Speaker 1: couple back to back episodes and then releasing them, um
Speaker 1: weekly if that makes sense, um, and so, so that's
Speaker 1: the goal right now, always have one a week. But
Speaker 1: in the future, let's say, you know, in a couple
Speaker 1: of years, when these podcast is making a baizalion dollars
Speaker 1: and I'm not fighting, then maybe maybe more two or three,
Speaker 1: who knows, But I know that for for me personally,
Speaker 1: the podcast that I love to listen to, I listen
Speaker 1: to it weekly and then I'm like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: wish there was another episode, you know, I look forward
Speaker 1: to it every week and I'm just like, why can't
Speaker 1: there be a mid week episode? Right? That's exactly yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, And just kind of a little little
Speaker 1: tip for you with best practices, you know, more often
Speaker 1: than not, like we've found, like Ben and I have
Speaker 1: found really good success on releasing our podcast at six
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning Pacific nine o'clock Eastern, because that's
Speaker 1: the highest volume that we've received for for downloads each
Speaker 1: and every day. So um, really, yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a nice thing, but you also have to stay consistent
Speaker 1: and true to how you release these things because our audience,
Speaker 1: you know, whether they like us, hate us, love us,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be there always at that time, consistently
Speaker 1: the expectations have been set. And so once we set those,
Speaker 1: people know, hey, this is what these guys are doing,
Speaker 1: and it becomes available and like accessible. That's that's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing too, is if if you're not accessible on
Speaker 1: multiple platforms, then you kind of ship out of luck.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the fortunate thing that we have
Speaker 1: behind I Heart Radio and and Fox Sports Radio and
Speaker 1: Apple iTunes and things that nature. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: power the cell phone or if you're on a PC
Speaker 1: or Mac whatever it may be. If if you've got
Speaker 1: a links and that sucker out and make sure you
Speaker 1: tag it on Twitter and Instagram and anything else that
Speaker 1: you're using for for connecting with the masses. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you for the chip. I agree, and I think that
Speaker 1: it is something that you can say across the board
Speaker 1: that consistency is key, right, whether it's your podcast, your training,
Speaker 1: or your relationships and all that. Yeah, no doubt about it. Um. Actually,
Speaker 1: I know I could talk to you prior for hours,
Speaker 1: but I know I don't have that much time that
Speaker 1: I can dedicate to you because you've got to do
Speaker 1: I training yourself, and uh, I'm got a fun filled day.
Speaker 1: But listen, we'd love to have you back on the
Speaker 1: on the show. Um, and you know I'd love to
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, So we'd love to to bring you back.
Speaker 1: And if you ever need to, if you need to
Speaker 1: drag me or the big guy Ben on over to
Speaker 1: the dark side of what you guys do, please feel
Speaker 1: free to to send out send out an invite. I
Speaker 1: know I could drag the big guy along. So yeah. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was thinking very small minded with the podcast, and
Speaker 1: Rick Lee, the producer, our mutual friend, was the one
Speaker 1: that was like, look, let's think you know, well, let's
Speaker 1: not think big peanuts, let's think big picture. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And He's like, right now we're
Speaker 1: interviewing m M A fighters, but what if this podcast
Speaker 1: takes off? Why not musicians and actors? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love that. So, UM, I think we're hopefully
Speaker 1: let me get a few more episodes, you know on
Speaker 1: the books and the books, and um, I would love
Speaker 1: to have you and and Ben on it. That would
Speaker 1: be I think you guys have a really good dichotomy.
Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast, um, the one you sent me,
Speaker 1: and you guys are just kind of poking fun at
Speaker 1: each other. And I love that relationship that you know,
Speaker 1: you guys have, so I would love to have you
Speaker 1: guys on Saturday. Yeah. It's uh, it's definitely what they
Speaker 1: call like a relationship, but it's uh, it's it's in progress.
Speaker 1: It's constantly evolving and developing and at times, uh, it's
Speaker 1: kind of collapsing. But you know, we we've worked together
Speaker 1: for a while and you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: we can tell you know, that's that's the kind of
Speaker 1: relationship we've had. So actually, like I, like I said
Speaker 1: when we first talked, um pleasure obviously connecting, but more importantly,
Speaker 1: best luck to you and uh, I definitely look forward
Speaker 1: to to talking to you in the future and connecting
Speaker 1: down the road. Thank you so much for having me
Speaker 1: on and talk to you guys soon.